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0 | ['Subject: [ILUG] doolin \nIf you\'re not in Doolin, beg, borrow, or steal your way there before\nthe LBW folk depart. It\'s far too much fun.\n\nCheers,\nWaider. Just back.\n-- \[email protected] / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me.\n"...we are in fact well and truly doomed. She says that if I leave now, \n I can probably get a good head start before they realize that I\'m gone."\n - Jamie Zawinski\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00201.190add142b96a42eec8969c51dcf89c7 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] find the biggest file \nInn Share's [[email protected]] 22 lines of wisdom included:\n> \n> Hi,all:\n> \n> Does anyone know how to list the biggest file in my\n> root directory?or the second biggest ..etc...\n> \n> Because I want to find out what is the reason cause my\n> root all most full.\n\n$ find /dir -name \\* | xargs du -s | sort -n\n\nSmallest files are listed first with the largest at the end. So if\nyou want to get the 5 largest files, pipe through tail.\n\ne.g.\n\n$ find /dir -name \\* | xargs du -s | sort -n | tail -5\n-- \n Philip Reynolds \n RFC Networks tel: 01 8832063\nwww.rfc-networks.ie fax: 01 8832041\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00202.fc22c26924eef6d26b3818db4450e2b6 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] find the biggest file \nPhilip Reynolds wrote:\n>>Does anyone know how to list the biggest file in my\n>>root directory?or the second biggest ..etc...\n> $ find /dir -name \\* | xargs du -s | sort -n\n\nYou might want to put a '-type f' on that find.\n\nPaul.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00203.b5773afbae12d0d79df74b32b2f46697 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] converting strings of hex to ascii \nOn Tue, 27 Aug 2002, David Neary wrote:\n\n> > Actually the following would be in some way sensible:\n> > echo -e "`echo "$enc" | sed \'s/%\\([0-9a-fA-F]\\{2,2\\}\\)/\\\\\\x\\1/g\'`"\n> \n> Why {2,2}? Why not {2}?\n\nno idea.\n\nthe above was something along the lines i was attempting, once i \nrealised it was a straight swap. but i couldnt get awk\'s gensub to \ninsert the \\x for %\'s and =\'s.\n\nanyway, in the end i found something on the internet and adapted it:\n\nfunction decode_url (str, hextab,i,c,c1,c2,len,code) {\n\n # hex to dec lookup table\n hextab ["0"] = 0; hextab ["8"] = 8;\n hextab ["1"] = 1; hextab ["9"] = 9;\n hextab ["2"] = 2; hextab ["A"] = 10;\n hextab ["3"] = 3; hextab ["B"] = 11;\n hextab ["4"] = 4; hextab ["C"] = 12;\n hextab ["5"] = 5; hextab ["D"] = 13;\n hextab ["6"] = 6; hextab ["E"] = 14;\n hextab ["7"] = 7; hextab ["F"] = 15;\n\n decoded = "";\n i = 1;\n len = length (str);\n while ( i <= len ) {\n c = substr (str, i, 1);\n # check for usual start of URI hex encoding chars\n if ( c == "%" || c == "=" ) {\n if ( i+2 <= len ) {\n # valid hex encoding?\n c1 = toupper(substr(str, i+1, 1));\n c2 = toupper(substr(str, i+2, 1));\n if ( !(hextab [c1] == "" && hextab [c2] == "") ) {\n code = 0 + hextab [c1] * 16 + hextab [c2] + 0\n c = sprintf ("%c", code)\n i = i + 2\n }\n }\n # + is space apparently\n } else if ( c == "+" ) {\n c = " "\n }\n decoded = decoded c;\n ++i;\n }\n return decoded\n}\n\n> Cheers,\n> Dave.\n\n> PS the late reply is because the footer on the original mail (If\n> you received this mail in error yadda yadda) got caught in my\n> spam filter, and ended up in my junkmail directory.\n\nhe he...\n\nmight not have been the footer - check my headers. :)\n\nregards,\n-- \nPaul Jakma\[email protected]\[email protected]\tKey ID: 64A2FF6A\n\twarning: do not ever send email to [email protected]\nFortune:\nOne nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00204.5c64400ff51925eb0ca4bc7bdab0bc09 |
0 | ['Subject: RE: [ILUG] doolin \nMight just take a trip over there later tomorrow, it is after all only\non my backdoor-step...\n\nE.\n\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of\nRonan Waide\nSent: 27 August 2002 21:19\nTo: ILUG list\nSubject: [ILUG] doolin\n\n\nIf you\'re not in Doolin, beg, borrow, or steal your way there before the\nLBW folk depart. It\'s far too much fun.\n\nCheers,\nWaider. Just back.\n-- \[email protected] / Yes, it /is/ very personal of me.\n"...we are in fact well and truly doomed. She says that if I leave now, \n I can probably get a good head start before they realize that I\'m\ngone."\n - Jamie Zawinski\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\ninformation. List maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00205.a7ef07a6046817705ce83f59e2bd3ac8 |
0 | ['Subject: [ILUG] Using Normal IDE Device with a Dell Latitude CPx laptop \nHi,\n\nI\'ve got an normal 3.5" CD-RW IDE drive that I\'d like to be able to use with a\nDell Latitude CPx laptop that I\'ve got. Does anyone know any way to enable this,\nfor example through the use of a special cable for the Modular Bay (where CD-ROM\nor floppy drive is normally).\n\nThere is also the possibility of using a docking station, but Dell\'s docking\nsolution for the Latitude series doesn\'t seem to allow for the use of an IDE\ndrive, only SCSI... Unless someone knows of a "non-Dell" solution that\'s\ncompatible.\n\nAnyone any ideas?\n\nThanks,\n\nDarren.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00206.5c77fcb0b64166d0fd0795b9d5f7330b |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] Using Normal IDE Device with a Dell Latitude CPx laptop \nDarren Kenny wrote:\n> Hi,\n> \n> I\'ve got an normal 3.5" CD-RW IDE drive that I\'d like to be able to use \n> with a Dell Latitude CPx laptop that I\'ve got. Does anyone know any way \n > enable this, for example through the use of a special cable for the\n > Modular Bay (where CD-ROM or floppy drive is normally).\n\nThere is absolutely no way to use a conventional 3.5" drive with a\nlaptop directly. However, you can get an external firewire or USB\ncradle and attach it to the laptop like that, and any 3.5" drive\nwill work in that case.\n\nExample :\n\nhttp://www.microsense.com/USB_35_combo.asp\n\nRegards,\n\nVin\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00207.13171e04f004b9e401b749be95abb2ea |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] find the biggest file \nPhilip Reynolds wrote:\n> Inn Share's [[email protected]] 22 lines of wisdom included:\n> > \n> > Hi,all:\n> > \n> > Does anyone know how to list the biggest file in my\n> > root directory?or the second biggest ..etc...\n> > \n> > Because I want to find out what is the reason cause my\n> > root all most full.\n> \n> $ find /dir -name \\* | xargs du -s | sort -n\n> \n> Smallest files are listed first with the largest at the end. So if\n> you want to get the 5 largest files, pipe through tail.\n\nAdding -r to the sort options, and piping through head instead,\nmight be a better idea. tail needs to read teh whole buffer, head\nonly reads the first n lines.\n\nCheers,\nDave.\n\n-- \n David Neary,\n Marseille, France\n E-Mail: [email protected]\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00208.f6805ede51fb25adfc2bebfa72e70f3b |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] Using Normal IDE Device with a Dell Latitude CPx laptop \nOn Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 11:38:00PM +0100, Vincent Cunniffe mentioned:\n> There is absolutely no way to use a conventional 3.5" drive with a\n> laptop directly. However, you can get an external firewire or USB\n> cradle and attach it to the laptop like that, and any 3.5" drive\n> will work in that case.\n\n Ah, they told me that about my A1200. Just got a video box, cut air holes\nand a hole for the cables, then got an extra-long 2.5" to 3.5" IDE cable,\nand connected it up. Had to make a few holes in the A1200 case for the\nIDE cable too.\n\n Worked a charm. Until I dropped the disk one day onto concrete.\n\nKate\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00209.d685082621cfefa2f7a2e614b455258d |
0 | ["Subject: [ILUG] [OT] Dell machine giving me hassle. \nOk, Iknow this is blatantly OT but I'm beginning to go insane.\nHad an old Dell Dimension XPS sitting in the corner and decided to\nput it to use, I know it was working pre being stuck in the\ncorner, but when I plugged it in, hit the power nothing happened.\nI opened her up and had a look and say nothing much. A little orange\nLED comes on when I plug her in but that's it, after some googling\nI found some reference to re-seating all the parts, but no change.\nThe problem I'm having is that since the power supply is some Dell\nspecific one, ATX block with what looks like one of the old AT\npower connectors, I cant figure out weather this is a Mobo prob\nor a PSU prob. Just to futily try and drag this back OT, I want\nto install Linux on it when I get it working. If anyone knows\nwhat the problem might be give me a shout.\n\nCheers,\nPeter.\n\n--\nPeter Aherne, Software Engineer, \nMotorola Ireland Ltd.\nPh: +353 21 4511234 Mobile: +353 87 2246834\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00210.a85c0673394ffce41e84cbd558ade870 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] Using Normal IDE Device with a Dell Latitude CPx laptop \nJohn P. Looney wrote:\n>>There is absolutely no way to use a conventional 3.5" drive with a\n>>laptop directly.\n> Ah, they told me that about my A1200.\n> \n> Worked a charm. Until I dropped the disk one day onto concrete.\n\nGo on. Tell them how long the /first/ one lasted.\n\nI vote external firewire if the laptop has the ports for it.\n\nPaul.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00211.3ccf7a2df02a7f7ec7160e29eacfd8ee |
0 | ['Subject: FW: [ILUG] Using Normal IDE Device with a Dell Latitude CPx lapto p \nI vote usb 1.1 as the chances are the cdr drive is not over 8x write and\nthus fireware is of no real use...\nbut i cant see how you are going to get it working without a cradle. I cant\neven get my dell laptop dvd drive to work\nas the connectors are not the same as my cd drive ones.. seems dell cant\nkeep any standards going :-(\n\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Paul Kelly [mailto:[email protected]]\nSent: 28 August 2002 09:32\nTo: [email protected]\nSubject: Re: [ILUG] Using Normal IDE Device with a Dell Latitude CPx\nlaptop\n\n\nJohn P. Looney wrote:\n>>There is absolutely no way to use a conventional 3.5" drive with a\n>>laptop directly.\n> Ah, they told me that about my A1200.\n> \n> Worked a charm. Until I dropped the disk one day onto concrete.\n\nGo on. Tell them how long the /first/ one lasted.\n\nI vote external firewire if the laptop has the ports for it.\n\nPaul.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\nDISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be\nlegally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this\nmessage by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended\nrecipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any\naction or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be\nunlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this\nmessage in error. Thank you.\n\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00212.51860640683706a0041c8576cf35fe26 |
0 | ["Subject: RE: [ILUG] [OT] Dell machine giving me hassle. \n\n\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: Aherne Peter-pahern02 [mailto:[email protected]]\n> Sent: 28 August 2002 09:29\n> To: '[email protected]'\n> Subject: [ILUG] [OT] Dell machine giving me hassle.\n> \n> Ok, Iknow this is blatantly OT but I'm beginning to go insane.\n> Had an old Dell Dimension XPS sitting in the corner and decided to\n> put it to use, I know it was working pre being stuck in the\n> corner, but when I plugged it in, hit the power nothing happened.\n> I opened her up and had a look and say nothing much. A little orange\n> LED comes on when I plug her in but that's it, after some googling\n> I found some reference to re-seating all the parts, but no change.\n> The problem I'm having is that since the power supply is some Dell\n> specific one, ATX block with what looks like one of the old AT\n> power connectors, I cant figure out weather this is a Mobo prob\n> or a PSU prob. Just to futily try and drag this back OT, I want\n> to install Linux on it when I get it working. If anyone knows\n> what the problem might be give me a shout.\n\n\nHere is what you do.\n\nRemove all the PCI & ISA/EISA cards.\nRemove the floppy disk cable from the mobo, the ide cables from the mobo...\nessentially leaving only a video card... ram and a keyboard plugged in.\n\nTurn on the system.\nIf it doesn't POST then, switch it off and remove the video card.\n\nSwitch it back on ... if your mobo doesn't emit some beeps complaining about\nlack of video card then.\n\nSwitch it off.\nRemove it's ram.\n\nSame procedure as above.\n\nIf you still don't have any kind of mobo beep codes then you can try as a\nlast ditch effort to reseat the cpu... (remembering to never ever ever power\nup your system without a heatsink & fan).\n\nIf after reseating the cpu into the mobo... you still get no beep codes,\nfrom it with just the cpu inserted into the mobo ie(no pci,*isa cards or and\nno actual ide or floppy cables connected to the system)... even though you\nhave power... you either have a faulty motherboard or a faulty cpu.\n\nOnce you get beep codes various permutations of the above should eventually\ndisjunct which device it is, is causing the lack of POST.\nPower On Self Test.\n\nBod\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00213.cbab995631e4345875a326d533cf6cd6 |
0 | ["Subject: RE: [ILUG] [OT] Dell machine giving me hassle. \n\n\n> > Ok, Iknow this is blatantly OT but I'm beginning to go insane.\n> > Had an old Dell Dimension XPS sitting in the corner and decided to\n> > put it to use, I know it was working pre being stuck in the\n> > corner, but when I plugged it in, hit the power nothing happened.\n> > I opened her up and had a look and say nothing much. A little orange\n> > LED comes on when I plug her in but that's it, after some googling\n> > I found some reference to re-seating all the parts, but no change.\n> > The problem I'm having is that since the power supply is some Dell\n> > specific one, ATX block with what looks like one of the old AT\n> > power connectors, I cant figure out weather this is a Mobo prob\n> > or a PSU prob. Just to futily try and drag this back OT, I want\n> > to install Linux on it when I get it working. If anyone knows\n> > what the problem might be give me a shout.\n\nIe if you are getting a little orange LED when you plug it in then your PSU\nis probably working.\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00214.ccc58960373c957d965f300ace6c9576 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] directory merging \nJohn P. Looney wrote:\n> I've two directories, that once upon a time contained the same files.\n> \n> Now, they don't.\n> \n> Is there a tool to merge the two - create a new directory where if the\n> files are the same, they aren't changed, if they are different, the one\n> with the most recent datestamp is used...\n\nJust for the record mc has a nice directory\ncomparison function. This is really nice\nwhen using the ftp VFS for e.g. Of course\nif you use something like ftpfs you can use\nthe previously mentioned tools.\n\nPádraig.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00215.d09b3f3c0df56258c17c3de4dfbfc6c6 |
0 | ["Subject: [ILUG] PPPD disconnects on me! \nHello folks!\nI'm new to Linux, so here goes...\nI've been trying to get connected to the outside world through my modem.\nI've got Debian with kernel 2.4.18.\nI've got this Win-Modem(yes, I know) and managed to locate a proper driver\nfor it.\nMinicom is very much able to dial out.\nBut there seems to be a problem with my PPPD installation.\nWhen I type 'ppp' in the minicom terminal, all I get (after the initial info\nof my dynamic IP, etc) is a ~ and then the NO CARRIER signal.\nThen I looked into calling pppd directly using chat.\nI used this command: pppd call Provider (where Provider is some script\nsomewhere).\nIt dials, it connects, it sends my username & password, and when connection\nis established, it gives the SIGHUP signal and exits.\nThis is confirmed when me friend and I tried to connect through a serial\nport using pppd to connect ttyS0. I ran pppd waiting for a connection, me\nfriend tried connecting and as soon as he did, pppd exited.\n\nSome expert help would be greatly appreciated as I'm sick and tired of\nhaving to reboot, get into Windoze to hook up to the net and then back to\nLinux, mounting this drive to get that file, etc. It'd be nice never have\nto go back to Windoze(except for games, that is).\n\nThanks a million.\nCarlos\n\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00216.70fc915ba97c52baa07a10c19b89f848 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] converting strings of hex to ascii \nPaul Jakma wrote:\n> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, David Neary wrote:\n> \n> > > Actually the following would be in some way sensible:\n> > > echo -e "`echo "$enc" | sed \'s/%\\([0-9a-fA-F]\\{2,2\\}\\)/\\\\\\x\\1/g\'`"\n> > \n> > Why {2,2}? Why not {2}?\n> \n> the above was something along the lines i was attempting, once i \n> realised it was a straight swap. but i couldnt get awk\'s gensub to \n> insert the \\x for %\'s and =\'s.\n\nPerl\'s pack() would do the job...\n\n> > PS the late reply is because the footer on the original mail (If\n> > you received this mail in error yadda yadda) got caught in my\n> > spam filter, and ended up in my junkmail directory.\n> \n> might not have been the footer - check my headers. :)\n\nActually, it was worse - a bodycheck showed up a "remove" URL. I\nneed a new spam filter (but I want to be able to process false\npositives, rather than dump them).\n\nCheers,\nDave.\n\n-- \n David Neary,\n Marseille, France\n E-Mail: [email protected]\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00217.e2416507f33a5350042484cc38de4800 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] find the biggest file \nInn Share wrote:\n> Hi,all:\n> \n> Does anyone know how to list the biggest file in my\n> root directory?or the second biggest ..etc...\n> \n> Because I want to find out what is the reason cause my\n> root all most full.\n> \n> The system is Solaris 8 Sparc.\n> \n> Thanks !!!\n\nI think everybody has their own version of this,\nbut in case it\'s useful.. (only tested on Linux):\n\nfind $* \\( -type f -o -type l \\) -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -print0 |\nxargs -r0 du -b --max-depth 0 |\nsort -k1n |\ngrep -v "^0"\n\nPádraig.\n\n\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00218.17547ce08d682678c539484cf094982d |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] find the biggest file \nInn Share <[email protected]> writes:\n\n> Hi,all:\n> \n> Does anyone know how to list the biggest file in my\n> root directory?or the second biggest ..etc...\n> \n> Because I want to find out what is the reason cause my\n> root all most full.\n\nfind / -xdev -type f -exec du -sk {} \\; | sort -rn | head -5\n\n -xdev will stop find recursing into other filesystems.\n\nCheers\nTiarnan\n\n\n-- \nTiarnán Ó Corráin\nConsultant / System Administrator\nCMG Wireless Data Solutions Ltd.\nTel.: +353 21 4933200\nFax: +353 21 4933201\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00219.642f44312e1eaf0fbecf90d6b39876d9 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] converting strings of hex to ascii \nDavid Neary wrote:\n> Padraig Brady wrote:\n> \n>>>Paul Jakma wrote:\n>>>\n>>>>chars in hex to plain ASCII?\n>>>>\n>>>>eg given\n>>>> http://w%77%77%2Eo%70%74%6F%72%69um.n%65t/remove.html\n>>>>\n>>>>is there an easy way to turn it into\n>>>>\n>>>> http://www.optorium.net/remove.html\n>>>>eg, whether by piping through some already available tool, or \n>>>>programmatically (printf? - but i dont see how.).\n>>>\n>>Actually the following would be in some way sensible:\n>>echo -e "`echo "$enc" | sed \'s/%\\([0-9a-fA-F]\\{2,2\\}\\)/\\\\\\x\\1/g\'`"\n> \n> \n> Why {2,2}? Why not {2}?\n\nMe being silly, that\'s all.\n\nPádraig.\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00220.7c18420ed3257e8630e67dd0045f6563 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] [OT] Dell machine giving me hassle. \n\nI'm not familiar with Dell Dimension XPS, and, to be honest, not familiar\nwith any brand-name computers. Most of my experience is China\nmotherboards, but I've seen same behavior once. Changing the battery helps\nthat time. It was big round battery with 'Panasonic' on it.\nComputer starts beeping then we removed battery from MB. It even booted up\n(well, loosing time and some other things).\n\nJust my 2 cents.\n\nMisha\n\nOn Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Aherne Peter-pahern02 wrote:\n\n> Ok, Iknow this is blatantly OT but I'm beginning to go insane.\n> Had an old Dell Dimension XPS sitting in the corner and decided to\n> put it to use,\n<snip>\n\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00221.073d8414c8d4801265b1894e139284f9 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] Newbie seeks advice - Suse 7.2 \nOn Fri, Aug 23, 2002 at 09:26:47AM +0100, Padraig Brady wrote:\n[...]\n> probably a bit old, 7.3 and 8.0 are out.\n\nAnd I've been told by a SuSE rep that 8.1 will be out in October,\nfor those who are interested.\n\nDavid\t\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00222.09f314ba527328f1537a99a2423af0c6 |
0 | ['Subject: ALSA (almost) made easy \nHi all,\n\nI\'ve decided at last to test the ALSA sound drivers. As usual the result is\nthat I\'ve spent much more time repackaging the darn thing than actually\ntesting the functionalities or trying to hear the great sound quality\npeople seem to think it outputs... but hey, some of you will benefit from\nthat, right? ;-)\n\nI\'ve got the whole thing working on a Valhalla system, but the packages\nshould easily install or at least recompile on Enigma, Limbo/(null) and\nmaybe others, who knows ;-)\n\nHere are quick instructions for those of you that wish to try it out :\n- Recompile the "alsa-driver" source rpm for your running kernel\n (you can install the binary package if you\'re using the i686 2.4.18-10)\n- Install this "alsa-driver" package\n- Install the "alsa-libs" package\n- Install the "alsa-utils" package\n\nNow go to this URL and find out what you need to change in your\n/etc/modules.conf file to replace the default OSS driver loading :\nhttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/\n(very complete and very good documentation!)\nHopefully you\'ll see that your card *is* supported ;-)\n\nReboot, or remove by hand your current sound modules (you\'ll probably need\nto stop many applications to free the sound resource...) "by hand" and\ninsert the new ones. If all is well you\'ve got ALSA working! ("dmesg" to\ncheck is a good idea), you now just need to adjust the volume levels with\ne.g. aumix and alsamixer because everything is muted by default.\n\nWith "aplay" you can already test files to see if you hear anything. You\ncan also install the XMMS plugin (seems to make my XMMS segfault on exit...\nhmmm, but maybe it\'s another plugin) to listen to your good ol\' mp3\nfiles... that\'s it!\n\nIt really isn\'t complicated, and has never been from what I see. The only\nthing I disliked was to have to install from source... but as I can\'t\nimagine myself doing that ;-) I\'ve repackaged everything cleanly. Even the\n/dev entries are included in the rpm package (and *not* created by an ugly\n%post script, I insist!) and seamlessly integrate into the /etc/makedev.d\nstructure. There are also a few other noticeable differences with the\ndefault provided ALSA spec files, for example I\'ve split alsa-lib\'s\ndevelopment files into an alsa-lib-devel package and included static\nlibraries... there are others of course (oh yes, the kernel version against\nwhich the "alsa-driver" package is compiled gets neatly integrated in the\nrpm release, so does the architecture!).\n\nI\'m open to any comments or suggestions about these packages!\n\nDownload :\nhttp://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/testing/alsa/\n\nCurrent spec files :\nhttp://freshrpms.net/builds/alsa-driver/alsa-driver.spec\nhttp://freshrpms.net/builds/alsa-lib/alsa-lib.spec\nhttp://freshrpms.net/builds/alsa-utils/alsa-utils.spec\n(All others, patches etc. : http://freshrpms.net/builds/ )\n\nMatthias\n\nPS: As an extra bonus, I\'ve also recompiled xine with alsa support! Simply\nrun "xine -A alsa09" and off you go! It may even support 5.1 and S/PDIF ;-)\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10\nLoad : 0.57 0.42 0.42, AC on-line, battery charging: 29% (1:55)\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n'] | 00223.02084417d77ed822ef1ba7391a7ff417 |
0 | ['Subject: Patch to enable/disable log \nWhile I was playing with the past issues, it annoyed me that there was\nno easy way to make the log stop growing (I don\'t mean to truncate it,\nI mean to just freeze it for a while).\n\nThe following patch adds a new button to the log window, which allows\nthe log to be switched on/off (the button says "Disable" when the\nlog is enabled, and the button disables it, and "Enable" when the log\nis frozen, and the button enables it again).\n\nkre\n\n--- main.tcl\tWed Aug 21 15:01:48 2002\n+++ /usr/local/lib/exmh-2.5/main.tcl\tWed Aug 28 17:36:59 2002\n@@ -385,6 +385,9 @@\n \tExmhLogCreate\n \twm withdraw $exmh(logTop)\n }\n+ if {! $exmh(logWrite)} {\n+\treturn\n+ }\n if [info exists exmh(log)] {\n \tcatch {\n #\t $exmh(log) insert end " [bw_delta] "\n@@ -407,6 +410,9 @@\n set exmh(logWindow) 1\n Exwin_Toplevel .log "Exmh Log" Log\n set exmh(logTop) .log\n+ set exmh(logDisableBut) \\\n+\t[Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but swap "Disable" ExmhLogToggle]\n+ set exmh(logWrite) 1\n Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but trunc "Truncate" ExmhLogTrunc\n Widget_AddBut $exmh(logTop).but save "Save To File" ExmhLogSave\n set exmh(logYview) 1\n@@ -457,6 +463,12 @@\n } msg] {\n \tExmh_Status "Cannot save log: $msg" error\n }\n+}\n+proc ExmhLogToggle {} {\n+ global exmh\n+\n+ set exmh(logWrite) [expr ! $exmh(logWrite)]\n+ $exmh(logDisableBut) configure -text [lindex {"Enable " Disable} $exmh(logWrite)]\n }\n #### Misc\n \n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nExmh-workers mailing list\[email protected]\nhttps://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/exmh-workers\n\n'] | 00224.937d82e92fbb4a21cc11cc49310eff39 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Compensation for World\'s youngest mother \nhttp://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/americas/08/26/peru.mother.reut/index.html\n\nLIMA, Peru (Reuters) -- Lina Medina\'s parents thought their 5-year-old daughter had a huge abdominal tumor and when shamans in their remote village in Peru\'s Andes could find no cure, her father carried her to hospital. \n\nJust over a month later, she gave birth to a boy. \n\nAged 5 years, seven months and 21 days old when her child was born by Caesarean section in May 1939, Medina made medical history, and is still the youngest known mother in the world. \n\nAt the time, Peru\'s government promised aid that never materialized. Six decades on, Medina lives with her husband in a cramped house in a poor, crime-ridden district of the Peruvian capital known as "Little Chicago." \n\nNow 68, she keeps herself to herself and has long refused requests to rake up the past. Gerardo, the son she delivered while still a child herself, died in 1979 at the age of 40. \n\nBut a new book, written by an obstetrician who has been interested in her case, has drawn fresh attention to Medina\'s story, and raised the prospect that the Peruvian government may belatedly offer her financial and other assistance. \n\n"The government condemned them to live in poverty. In any other country, they would be the objects of special care," Jose Sandoval, author of "Mother Aged 5," told Reuters. \n\n"We still have time to repair the damage done to her. That\'s my fundamental objective," he added. \n\n\'Totally willing to help\'\nSandoval has raised Medina\'s case with the office of first lady Eliane Karp, and has asked the government to grant her a life pension -- something officials say is possible. \n\n"We\'re totally willing to help her," said spokeswoman Marta Castaneda. But Suni Ramos, of the social action department of Karp\'s office, said that before the government could grant her a pension or any other of the aid it was already planning -- such as kitchen and other household equipment -- it needed to talk to her to discuss what she wanted and needed. It is currently trying to contact Medina and her family. \n\nMedina\'s husband, Raul Jurado, told Reuters his wife remained skeptical. "She got no help (in 1939) that I know about," he said. "She thinks governments never deliver. Maybe today there will be a promise that will never come true." \n\nJurado said his wife, whose story is a medical textbook classic and whose case is confirmed as true by such bodies as the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, had turned down Reuters\' request for an interview. \n\nMedical rarity\nNo one has ever established who was the father of Medina\'s child, or confirmed she became pregnant after being raped. \n\nOne of nine children born to country folk in Ticrapo, an Andean village at an altitude of 7,400 feet (2,250 meters) in Peru\'s poorest province, Medina is believed to be the youngest case of precocious puberty in history, Sandoval said. \n\nHe said she had her first period at 2 1/2, became pregnant aged 4 years and eight months and that when doctors performed the Caesarean to deliver her baby, they found she already had fully mature sexual organs. \n\nHer swelling stomach worried her parents. "They thought it was a tumor," he said. But shamans ruled out village superstitions -- including one in which locals believed a snake grew inside a person until it killed them -- and recommended they take her to hospital in the nearest big town, Pisco. \n\nThere came the staggering diagnosis that she was pregnant. \n\nHer father was jailed temporarily on suspicion of incest -- he was later released for lack of evidence -- and doctors, police and even a film crew set off for her village for preliminary investigations into her case. \n\nSandoval, who based his book on media and other published information, and some interviews with relatives as Medina herself declined to comment, said news of the child mother-to-be drew instant offers of aid, including one worth $5,000 from a U.S. businessman, which was turned down. \n\nMore offers followed after Medina was transferred to a Lima hospital, where her fully developed 6-pound (2.7 kg) baby was born on May 14, 1939 -- Mother\'s Day. \n\nOne offer was worth $1,000 a week, plus expenses, for Medina and her baby to be exhibited at the World\'s Fair in New York. Another, from a U.S. business that the family accepted in early June 1939, was for the pair to travel to the United States for scientists to study the case. The offer included setting up a fund to ensure their lifelong financial comfort. \n\nBut within days, the state trumped all previous offers, decreeing that Medina and her baby were in "moral danger," and resolving to set up a special commission to protect them. \n\nBut Sandoval said: "It abandoned the case after six months ...It did absolutely nothing for them." \n\nHappy ending?\nThough physically mature, Medina -- who Sandoval said was mentally normal and showed no other unusual medical symptoms -- still behaved like a child, preferring to play with her dolls instead of the new baby, who was fed by a wet nurse. \n\nMedina stayed in hospital for 11 months, finally returning to her family after it began legal proceedings that led to a Supreme Court ruling allowing her to live with them again. \n\nAfter taunting from schoolmates, Gerardo -- who was named after one of the doctors who attended Medina and became their mentor -- discovered when he was 10 that the woman he had grown up believing to be his sister was in fact his mother. \n\nHe died in 1979 from a disease that attacks the body\'s bone marrow, but Sandoval said it was not clear there was any link with his illness and the fact his mother had been so young. \n\nMedina married and in 1972 had a second son, 33 years after her first. Her second child now lives in Mexico. \n\nShe appears to have turned her bizarre story into a taboo subject. "We just want to get on with our lives, that\'s it," said Jurado, adding he thought "absolutely nothing" of the fact his wife was the world\'s youngest mother. \n\nHe said the couple\'s main concern now, if the government\'s offer of aid was genuine, was to be granted the value of a property that belonged to Medina and which the then-government expropriated more than two decades ago. That house has now been destroyed and there is a road on the site. \n\nHe said its value was "more or less $25,000" and settling the property question would conclude a long legal battle to get back a home of their own -- they live now in a modest house, accessed down a dingy alley half blocked by a wooden board, in a tough neighborhood known to locals as a thieves\' paradise. \n\n"If the government really wants to help...they should give us the value of our property," he said. \n\nAs for Sandoval, he said he was optimistic that Medina\'s story, which he has studied since his student days, would turn out well. "I believe there will be a happy ending," he said. \n\n"As a result of the war, corporations have now been enthroned and an era\nof corruption in high places will follow and the money-power of the\ncountry will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the\nprejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands\nand the Republic is destroyed."\nAbraham Lincoln (Nov 21, 1864 in a letter to Col. William F Elkins)\n\n\n\n\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00225.13c1eaece69dd93afacadb48189e65fc |
0 | ["Subject: [zzzzteana] RE:Pictish \nBarbara wrote:\nPictish pictograms (still undeciphered)\n-----------------------\nI'd be interested in an update on the latest thinking on these things.\nParticularly the 'swimming elephant' pictogram.\n\nThere's a book come out recently on the world's undeciphered scripts\n(including Linear A and Etruscan).\nHas any list member read it?\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"] | 00226.b629152d594cf90a252b1f45dce90a65 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Re: That wacky imam \n--- In forteana@y..., "Martin Adamson" <martin@s...> wrote:\n> For an alternative, and rather more factually based, rundown on \nHamza\'s \n> career, including his belief that all non Muslims in Yemen should \nbe murdered \n> outright:\n> \n> http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=ia&ID=IA7201\n\nAnd we know how unbiased MEMRI is, don\'t we....\n\nhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,773258,00.\nhtml\n\nRob\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00227.9e23fa007bc1e12a6b957372d24116f0 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Lincs lizard \nhttp://yorkshirepost.co.uk/scripts/editorial2.cgi?cid=news&aid=481687\n\n2.5ft lizard \'abandoned\' at resort\n\nHolidaymakers at a seaside resort were stunned to find a 2.5ft lizard\nsunning itself at a caravan park close to a beach.\nThe savannah monitor lizard was captured at Chapel St Leonards, Lincs, on\nSunday by a member of the public before being collected by an RSPCA team.\nRSPCA officer Justin Stubbs, who took the lizard to a specialist carer,\nsaid: "Savannah monitors can give a nasty bite and we certainly wouldn\'t\nhave wanted one loose in a busy holiday resort for long."\nOfficials believe the animal may have been abandoned by a private owner\nbecause it has not been reported missing.\nSavannah monitor lizards originate in Africa and are carnivorous, eating\nrats and small rodents. They can grow to 4ft in length.\nAnyone with information about the lizard can contact the RSPCA in confidence\non 08705 555 999.\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00228.6cf71899d7146e93641d4ad9d0aeb34e |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Hot rock \nhttp://yorkshirepost.co.uk/scripts/editorial2.cgi?cid=news&aid=481620\n\nClose encounter of burnt kind\n\nIT came from outer space \xad or did it? Teenager Siobhan Cowton is convinced\nthe object which struck her as she climbed into the family car at her home\nin Northallerton is extra-terrestrial.\nBut while her claims are being treated with a certain amount of studied\nacademic scepticism by experts in these matters, the 14-year-old schoolgirl\nis adamant she was hit on the foot by a meteorite.\nSiobhan initially thought there was a more prosaic explanation \xad that the\nodd-looking stone had been thrown at her by a child,.\nBut on closer inspection, she discovered all was not as it seemed \xad because\nit was hot when she picked it up. It hit her on a foot but caused no injury.\n"I looked at it again and it had a black and grey colour with a shiny bubble\nsurface," she said.\nAfter closer inspection by her father Niel, and comparison with pictures on\nthe Internet, Siobhan plans to ask scientists at Durham University to check\nthe object for authenticity.\nIf it is from outer space, Siobhan says she will consider putting it up for\nauction.\nShe added: "If it isn\'t worth anything then I suppose I will keep it myself\nfor sentimental value. It is not every day that you are hit by a meteorite."\nBut Dr Ben Horton, a lecturer in physical geography, was the acme of\nacademic caution.\n"Meteors have features that can be used to establish whether it is a piece\nof extraterrestrial rock," he said.\n"They have a very smooth surface but sometimes they have shallow depressions\nand cavities. If they are hot, they should have a black ash like crust burnt\naround the edge.\n"Most are between five and 60 centimetres but five centimetres is the\nsmallest that they usually appear."\nTo establish the provenance of Siobhan\'s suspected meteorite it would have\nto be subject to a mineral breakdown but Dr Horton thinks the chances of it\nbeing extra-terrestrial are slim.\n"Around 50,000 a year strike the Earth\'s surface and, considering the size\nof the Earth, it is very unlikely to be a meteorite.\n"However, there is a possibility and there is no reason it couldn\'t happen,"\nhe added. \n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00229.5ee5fd3867d69cd25a5fde771fda0094 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] \'Lost\' penguins found alive \nEvening Standard - 28 August 2002\n\n[Deft use of Fortean Unit of Measurement in 2nd para - MA]\n\n \'Lost\' penguins found alive\n \n by Charles Miranda\n\n A colony of emperor penguins which was thought to have starved to death in\n Antarctica has been found alive in a "big huddle". \n\n The birds were spotted by the crew of a USAF jet returning to base in New\n Zealand. Researchers had feared that a breakaway iceberg the size of Jamaica\n had all but wiped out the colony at Cape Crozier on Ross Island. \n \n Thousands of chicks are believed to have died as an increase in sea ice made\n it impossible for the adults to find food. A detailed count is planned in\n October. Antarctica (New Zealand) chief executive Lou Sanson said: "The\n penguins were in a big huddle. We can now hope that the emperors have had a\n successful breeding season over the winter." \n \n Some 1,000 pairs of emperors - the largest penguins in the world at 3.3ft tall\n and 88lb - usually nest at Cape Crozier, 50 miles from the US McMurdo research\n station. The 200,000-strong Adelie penguin colony, which also nests at the\n cape, may have lost up to third of its population. \n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00230.9a0c6d7bc5e78a2b597bc050e491d05e |
0 | ['Subject: /home/dude \nHi,\n\nsome time now the following messages were haunting me:\n\n automount[11593]: attempting to mount entry /home/dude\n\nIt just came to my attention, that only freshrpm benefitting hosts showed this\nup. I grepped through the binaries and found referrences to /home/dude.\n\n# grep /home/dude /usr/bin/*\nBinary file /usr/bin/aaxine matches\nBinary file /usr/bin/gentoo matches\nBinary file /usr/bin/gphoto2 matches\nBinary file /usr/bin/gtkam matches\n...\n\nI am now relaxed again ;), and pass this info on. Probably Matthias Saou\nhimself is "dude", and some package has hardwired a path in his build\ndirectory. It would be nice to find out which and fix it, but I am using too\nmany of the freshrpm suite to narrow it down.\n\nRegards, Axel.\n-- \[email protected]\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n'] | 00231.b295668c907d5f4d50f8e9db78ae5714 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Big cats \'on the increase\' \nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2220922.stm\n\n\nBig cats are on the loose in Britain and breeding their way towards record\nnumbers, a monitoring group has claimed. \nThe British Big Cats Society said it has received more than 800 reports of\nanimals including pumas, black panthers, leopards and so-called Fen tigers\nover the past 12 months. \n\nAnd while it admits that many sightings are of nothing more exotic than the\naverage moggy, it claims to have "firm evidence" that the majority are real.\n\n\nSociety founder Daniel Bamping told BBC News Online he could cope with the\ncritics and doubters, adding: "I was a sceptic, I thought it was in the same\nrealm as the Loch Ness monster. \n\n"But it\'s not, they are really out there." \n\n\'Cats with cubs\' \n\nMr Bamping said there have been reports of big cats from every corner of the\ncountry. \n\nBig cat reports \nHotspots include Scotland and Gloucestershire \nJanuary 2002 - Kent man clawed by suspected Lynx \nNovember 2001 - farmer reports animals mauled by big cat \nApril 2001 - Lynx captured in north London \n1999 - Puma-like cat attacks horse in Wales \n"This weekend alone I have had sightings from Wales, the Scottish borders,\nKent, the West Midlands, Devon, Somerset and Wiltshire," he said. \n\nThe society claims some of the big cats are breeding with domestic animals. \n\nBut Mr Bamping said others, particularly lynx and puma, probably exist in\nsufficient numbers to breed among themselves. \n\n"We have had sightings of cats with cubs," he added. \n\n\'Trigger camera\' \n\nThe society claims to have evidence proving the cats\' existence, including\nphotographs, paw prints, sheep kills and hair samples. \n\nBut it knows it will have to do even more to convince a sceptical public\nthat it is not spinning them a shaggy cat story. \n\nA national "trigger camera" project is planned which, the society hopes,\nwill provide footage to prove the existence of the big cats. \n\nMr Bamping said: "The idea is that the cat will walk past the camera and\ntake a picture of itself." \n\n\'Like dogs\' \n\nThe society believes many of the sighting are of pets released into the\nwild, or their descendants. \n\nIts spokesman Danny Nineham said: "In the 1960s and 1970s, people had big\ncats like leopards as pets and they used to walk them like dogs. \n\n"But in 1976 when the Dangerous Wild Animals Act came into force, people\nreleased their cats because they did not want to pay for a licence, put them\ndown, or take them to a zoo."\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00232.dba1ba74b7372e3b13b0a351e2d45b89 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] US Army tests portable translator \nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2219079.stm\n\nUS soldiers on peacekeeping duties in the future could find that a portable\ntranslation device will be an essential part of their equipment. \nScientists at Carnegie Mellon University have developed a prototype of a\nspeech translator that was road-tested by US Army chaplains in Croatia. \n\n"This project shows how a relatively simple speech-to-speech translation\nsystem can be rapidly and successfully constructed using today\'s tools,"\nsaid the team from Carnegie Mellon University in a research paper published\nrecently. \n\nThe research was commissioned by the US Army, which is increasingly finding\nitself in peace-keeping roles where communication is key. \n\nSpeaking in tongues \n\n"In the Balkans, the Army is not just supposed to conquer somebody," Robert\nFrederking of Carnegie Mellon University told the BBC programme Go Digital. \n\n \nTranslators could be essential for US soldiers\n \n"In a peacekeeping situation, you have two guys trying to beat each other up\nand you are holding them apart. \n\n"You can\'t just shot one of them, you have to figure what is going on and\ntalk to them," he said. \n\nThe portable translator was developed with a year, using commercially\navailable laptops. \n\nThe Army did not want to field-test the device in a battlefield situation.\nSo instead the translator was tested by US Army chaplains in Croatia. \n\n"The chaplains very often end up having to talk to foreign nationals and\ntypically don\'t have any translation support," explained Mr Frederking. \n\nSlow system \n\nFor the trials, the chaplains used the translator to speak to Croatians who\nknew just a smattering of English. \n\nThe system works by having a speech recogniser that picks up the words in\nCroatian, turns the speech into text. The written words are then translated\ninto English and read out by a speech synthesizer. \n\n"It went reasonably well half the time," said Mr Frederking, though it was\nslow in translating phrases. \n\nThe research team admit that the system is not ready to be deployed in the\nfield. \n\nBut they say their trials showed that a portable translator could be made to\nwork with further research and development. \n\nThe Audio Voice Translation Guide System project was a joint venture between\nthe US Army, the military manufacturer Lockheed Martin and Carnegie Mellon\nUniversity. \n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nReceive Phone Calls and Faxes While You\'re Online!\nEmerson Switchboard eliminates the need for a second phone line.\nOrder the Switchboard today for $39.95 + shipping and handling.\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/P2sPyA/o6kEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00233.46a5a0be6835c796dac95e1c5b691673 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Worryingly sophisticated bees \nAnanova:\xa0 \nBrazilian bees keep their own \'insect ranch\'\n\nScientists have found a new species of bee that behaves like a farmer by\nkeeping herds of insects.\nThe Amazonian Schwarzula use their own \'insect ranches\' to provide food and\nbuilding materials.\nThe bees nest in holes in trees alongside 200 aphid-like insects from a\nspecies called cryptostigma.\nCryptostigma feed on tree sap and excrete a sugar solution, which the bees\nstop them from drowning in, by licking it up and turning it into honey.\nThe insects also produce wax from glands on their backs, which the bees\nscrape off and use for their nest.\nNature reports it is the first time farming behaviour has been discovered in\nbees.\nBiologist Joao Camargo, of the University of Sao Paulo in Brazil, said: "In\nturn the bees provide the insects with sanitary benefits and protection."\nWriting in the journal Biotropica, Camargo says the bees might even carry\ntheir insect ranches around the forest with them and is planning further\nresearch on how they tend to their herd.\nStudies of the Schwarzula showed the bees seemed to get most of their sugar\nfrom the insect farms. Some bees were seen licking human sweat for salt.\nStory filed: 13:49 Wednesday 28th August 2002\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nSuper Blue Stuff Pain Relief - On Sale Today for $29.95 + shipping!\nWith Super Blue Stuff you¿ll feel the results in just minutes.\nRelieves arthritis pain, back pain, sore muscles, and more!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/N2sPyA/q6kEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00234.335356ba4b116d347be3199b40cdaed2 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Betamax finally laid to rest \nNot fortean, but a moment in time all the same...\n\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/2220972.stm\n\n\nBetamax video recorders are finally being phased out almost 20 years after\nlosing the battle for dominance of the home video market to VHS. \nBetamax\'s manufacturer, Sony, has announced that it will make only 2,000\nmore machines for the Japanese market. \n\nThey have not been on sale in the rest of the world since 1998. \n\n \nVHS became the dominant format by the mid-1980s\n \nBetamax was launched in 1975, and won many fans who said it was better\nquality than its VHS rival. \n\nSome 2.3 million Betamax machines were sold worldwide in its peak year,\n1984, but it soon went downhill as VHS became the format of choice for the\nfilm rental industry and in homes. \n\nJust 2,800 machines were sold in the 12 months to March 2002. \n\n"With digital machines and other new recording formats taking hold in the\nmarket, demand has continued to decline and it has become difficult to\nsecure parts," Sony said in a statement. \n\nSony said it would continue to offer repairs and manufacture tapes for the\nformat. \n\nThe professional Betamax format, Betacam, is still widely used in the\ntelevision and film industries and will be unaffected. \n\nBut the recent rise of DVDs seems to have put the final nail in the coffin\nfor Betamax home players. \n\nIn the 1980s, many video rental chains preferred the VHS format. \n\nBetamax lovers became so passionate about the format in the face of\ncompetition from VHS that they set up the Betaphile Club in 1988. \n\nThe picture and sound quality of Beta was superior to VHS, Betaphiles say,\nalthough VHS tapes had a longer duration. \n\nA total of 18 million Betamax machines were sold around the world, but no\nnew ones will be made after the end of 2002. \n\nSony is now planning to focus its efforts on new digital technologies. \n See also:\n\n\n \n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nKwick Pick Portable Lock Pick - Opens Almost Any Lock!\nLocked out? Try the Kwick Pick. For $17.95, you can open car doors,\ndesk drawers, padlocks, and much more! Never get locked out again!\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/O2sPyA/p6kEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00235.c3a09c057f8fec7d833a8f38062b9a48 |
0 | ["Subject: [ILUG] Hayes Accura ISDN PCI \nDoes anyone know if this is supported under 2.4.18 kernels or higher?\n\nI need to buy an ISDN TA quick, and PC World have these in stock for €65.\n\nThanks,\n\tDavid.\n\nDavid Hamilton\nSenior Technical Consultant\nHP Ireland \n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00236.0d42e8e99de86aae42a4f3e3cdc2465b |
0 | ["Subject: [ILUG] Modem Problems \nive just gotton myself a modem (no its not a winmodem, yes im sure) it dials\nthe internet grant using the RedHat PPP Dialer... and i can ping the server\ni dial into but i cant get any furthur than that server? any ideas?\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00237.885411da9a2cf59e223a953a1747d44f |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [zzzzteana] Re: That wacky imam \nMartin Adamson wrote:>>And we know how unbiased MEMRI is, don't we....\n>>\n> \n> Oh, of course, you're right, any information not coming from a source that \n> fits your pre-conceived world view can simply be dismissed out of hand.\n> \n> Martin\n> \n\nFor goddess' sake Martin that seems to be exactly what you're doing. You \nstarted your reply to Tim's posting of the Guardian article by suggesting that \nit was factually inaccurate. Did you actually read it or did you just assume \nthat if the Grauniad writes about a Muslim extremist they must be making him out \nas an all round nice guy?\n\nStewart\n-- \nStewart Smith\nScottish Microelectronics Centre, University of Edinburgh.\nhttp://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~sxs/\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"] | 00238.dab1868a3b43de1e01ebdfd0e53de50f |
0 | ["Subject: [zzzzteana] Re: Cincinnati Group Wants To Stamp Out Hotel Sex Movies \n>\n>> (CNSNews.com) - A pro-family group in Cincinnati that has pressured\n>> two area hotels to stop showing adult pay-per-view movies has vowed\n>to\n>> expand its grass- roots campaign nationwide.\n>\n>\n>Quite right. And while they're at it, they can get that bunch of\n>religious nuts to stop sneaking their book of hate and intolerence\n>into the bedside cabinets, you know, that one with all the telephone\n>humbers in it.\n>\n>Oh, and the Gideon Society can take their bibles back as well.\n>\n>RobinH\n>\n\nWhat are you talking about??? That book is where all the best free porn is!!\n\nPiece of trivia: the thing is so pithy it floats!!\n-- \n\n\nFel\nhttp://www.frogstone.net\nWeird Page: http://my.athenet.net/~felinda/WeirdPage.html\n\n[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"] | 00239.849f683f7532fe3ef85d3ae6cf2d7153 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [zzzzteana] Save the planet, kill the people \nthe latest -\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/2240487.stm\n\nFriday, 6 September, 2002, 08:53 GMT 09:53 UK\nZimbabwe eases GM stance\n\nZimbabwe has dropped objections to accepting genetically modified (GM) grain\nso that urgently-needed food aid can be delivered, says the UN food agency.\nThe executive director of the World Food Programme, James Morris, said\nZimbabwe\'s decision would send an important message to other countries in\nthe region which have refused food aid because it might contain GM grain.\nUntil now, Zimbabwe had said it would only allow aid workers to distribute\nground maize to allay fears that GM grain could be planted.\nBut a Zimbabwean minister says the government has now set up a system of\nchecks to ensure the grain will not enter the eco-system.\nThere have been fears that Southern African nations could lose lucrative\nexport markets in Europe if they cannot certify that their crops are\nGM-free.\nAid\nMr Morris announced the policy reversal after talks in Harare with\nZimbabwean President Robert Mugabe.\n"The fact that they have now concluded that they are comfortable in\naccepting GM crops or commodities will be an important signal to other\ncountries in the region," Mr Morris told journalists.\n"It will enable us to do our job," he said.\nAid workers say up to 13 million people in seven countries in Southern\nAfrica face famine. In Zimbabwe which was once the bread basket of the\nregion, some six million people are estimated to need food aid.\nThe WFP says it already has aid pledges for about half of the 600,000 tonnes\nof food it intends to bring into Zimbabwe in the next few months.\nThe government blames the shortages solely on drought, but the government\'s\ncampaign to transfer land from large scale commercial white farmers has\nworsened the situation, say many donors.\nLost markets\nThe GM row has complicated relief efforts across the region.\nZambia\'s president is refusing to overturn his ban on GM food aid, labelling\nit as \'poison\' .\nDeals to mill GM food before being distributed, so that it could not be\nplanted, have placated fears in Malawi and Mozambique.\nUnited States aid officials deny that the food is unsafe, pointing out that\nAmericans eat GM maize every day.\nThe World Health Organisation has certified the grain for human consumption\nand says it does not constitute a danger to people\'s health.\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nLooking for a more powerful website? Try GeoCities for $8.95 per month.\nRegister your domain name (http://your-name.com). More storage! No ads!\nhttp://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/aHOo4D/KJoEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00240.6430542510c59bcb5e4cca0112eff3ac |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Frog Fall at Cheapside \nNear the end of his *Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the\nMadness of Crowds* (1851), Charles Mackay discusses various catch phrases\nbriefly popular in mid-19th-century London. One of them, he observes,\n"like a mushroom, seems to have sprung up in the night, or, like a frog in\nCheapside, to have come down in a sudden shower. One day it was unheard,\nunknown, uninvented; the next it pervaded London."\n\nWas "like a frog in Cheapside" (or something similar) a catch phrase\nitself, or did Mackay come up with the simile on his own?\n\nAnd to what event or events does it refer?\n\nI didn\'t find anything relevant in Partridge\'s *A Dictionary of Catch\nPhrases.*\n\nbc\n\n\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nLooking for a more powerful website? Try GeoCities for $8.95 per month.\nRegister your domain name (http://your-name.com). More storage! No ads!\nhttp://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/aHOo4D/KJoEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00241.45aeb31a71118db41c3757eee21f8757 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [zzzzteana] Free Web Hosting? \nBill:\n> I've decided that I ought to put some of my writing samples on-line for\n> potential employers to mock. And I don't want to pay for it. There are still\n> a couple dozen places to do this, do any of you have preferences?\n>\nGetting your own domain needn't be expensive, looks more professional, and\nyou're not going to suddenly lose your site with little or no notice (yes,\nI'm still smarting from bastard Geocities). I registered mine through\nhttp://www.easyspace.com/ - works out about a pound a week for registration\nand 30Mb hosting. It's a valuable service, there's no reason not to expect\nto pay.\n\nTimC\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nLooking for a more powerful website? Try GeoCities for $8.95 per month.\nRegister your domain name (http://your-name.com). More storage! No ads!\nhttp://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/aHOo4D/KJoEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"] | 00242.640f27e47a5754dbf4893781ce156a75 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [zzzzteana] FWD (TLCB) Jimmy Carter: The Troubling, New Face of America \nOf course, everyone knows that Owlman is a work of fuggin` genius\n\nJ\n\n\n\n\n> Hey, I met the wizard bloke from Owlman, who wants to touch me!!\n> \n> Dave\n\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00243.356078a6eb0847e4670477133553b3af |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Scissors are a snip for Third World \nThe Times\n\n September 06, 2002\n \n Scissors are a snip for Third World\n From Richard Owen in Rome\n \n \n \n IT IS one of the unanswered questions of the past year: what happens to the\n millions of nail scissors confiscated by airport security officials from\n passengers\x92 hand luggage? Most are thrown away or recycled after being seized\n as part of security measures since September 11. But an enterprising chaplain\n is sending them to Catholic missionaries for distribution to Third World\n hospitals and clinics. In theory travellers who have left nail scissors, nail\n files, corkscrews or manicure sets from their hand luggage can arrange for\n them to be returned. In practice many just shrug and leave the scissors by the\n X-ray scanners. \n \n Father Arturo Rossini, chaplain of Malpensa airport in Milan, said that\n scissors were costly or unavailable in many parts of Africa, Asia and Latin\n America. \n \n He told Corriere della Sera that he had \x93plucked up the courage\x94 to ask the\n authorities if he could have the confiscated scissors. With the help of a\n retired airport policeman, he had packaged 60,000 nail scissors and manicure\n sets, using the airport chapel as a packing centre. \n \n Packages were shipped in aircraft holds to Peru, Brasil, India, Mozambique,\n Argentina, Zambia and Kenya. \x93In such countries, what we think of as a\n personal grooming accessory can be a vital tool.\x94 \n \n The idea has been taken up at other Italian airports. \n \n \n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00244.d6a35c3356b3796b5ddc77ed1b1995e2 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [zzzzteana] Save the planet, kill the people \n\n> Zimbabwe has dropped objections to accepting genetically modified (GM) grain\n> so that urgently-needed food aid can be delivered, says the UN food agency.\n\nYes, confirming what I said in my last message. Ah! I see where the problem \nlies! You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that Zimbabwe and \nZambia are the same country. \n\nMartin\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nSell a Home for Top $\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00245.5d4317b10e081f87fd2cd84e6fc94cd7 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [zzzzteana] Save the planet, kill the people \nMartin:\n> Yes, confirming what I said in my last message. Ah! I see where the problem\n> lies! You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that Zimbabwe and\n> Zambia are the same country.\n>\nNo, that would be rather silly. There are conflicting reports on whether\nZambia is prepared to accept milled GM grain or not - and, from reports from\nvarious sources, considerable debate within that country. There's complex\nissues, not all of which can be dismissed by blaming those nasty\nenvironmentalists, which was my original point.\n\nTimC\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n"] | 00246.b7cc35e095c9fae344813bf6e1bc681a |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Hitler-style applicant welcomed by parties \nThe Times\n \n \n September 06, 2002\n \n Hitler-style applicant welcomed by parties\n By Roger Boyes\n \n \n \n MANAGERS of Germany\x92s political parties are having difficulty explaining their\n enthusiastic reaction to a man who applied for membership with letters cribbed\n largely from Mein Kampf, Hitler\x92s personal manifesto. The incident illustrates\n how indiscriminate parties have become in taking on new members during an\n election campaign, even when their sentiments bear a suspicious resemblance to\n those of the Führer. \n \n \x93Edmund Stoiber is a thousand times more suited to leading Germany than the\n present Chancellor,\x94 said one letter sent to the Christian Social Union\n headquarters in Ingolstadt. \x93Chancellor Schröder is doing nothing to stop the\n flood of foreigners who are spreading around our Fatherland,\x94 said the letter,\n signed by a certain Rudolph Lewald. \n \n The CSU immediately spotted a potential member. \x93Many thanks for your nice\n thoughts,\x94 replied the local party manager, who enclosed an application for\n membership. \n \n The letter used chunks of Hitler\x92s book, which is still banned in Germany.\n History students have to apply for access to the book in university libraries.\n \n \n \x93The strongest, the brave and the hardworking will receive the birthright of\n existence, only those who are born weaklings could regard this as offensive,\x94\n the letter-writer said. \x93So-called humanity is melting like snow in the March\n sun.\x94 Such phrases were lifted from Mein Kampf, which was written while Hitler\n was in jail after the failed Munich putsch of 1923. \n \n Similar letters, also using the Nazi leader\x92s words, were sent to the other\n political parties and drew sympathetic responses. \x93I read your letter with\n great interest and pleasure,\x94 the manager of the Christian Democratic Union in\n Cologne, said. \n \n \x93Great that you want to join us!\x94 enthused the Green Party headquarters. The\n Free Democrats invited the aspiring party member to a fundraising charity ball\n at which Hans- Dietrich Genscher, the former Foreign Minister, would be the\n star guest. The Social Democrats sent a list of rallies to be attended by\n Gerhard Schröder, the Chancellor. \n \n \x93I wanted to test how serious parties are about combating right-wing\n extremism,\x94 said the letter-writer, who was in fact the Cologne novelist\n Rainer Popp. \x93I had no idea that they would be so enthusiastic. \n \n \x93For the first few days I expected two men in leather coats from the Special\n Branch to knock on my door. Instead only the postman called \x97 with packets of\n election material from zealous political headquarters,\x94 Herr Popp said. \n \n \x93I was stunned that political parties could react in this way \x97 I reckon I\n would have had the same response if I had signed the letter \x91Adolf Hitler\x92.\x94\n \n \n \n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\n4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00247.e14fcbf137267399278507b469811f0a |
0 | ["Subject: [ILUG] Flat rate is back lads! \nHi all,\n\nSaw this on the register this morning,\nhttp://theregister.co.uk/content/6/26983.html, and they support ISDN dual\nchannel. Whoo Hoo!\n\nCW\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n"] | 00248.668706b3eca383f610723863786d422d |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] modem problems \nQuoting Waider ([email protected]):\n\n> Niall Sheridan wrote:\n> | A power cycle will do it.\n> | Other than that it\'s chipset specific.\n> \n> sure. tried powercycling an internal modem recently? :)\n> \n> Waider. This is Rick Moen bait.\n\nThanks. It was delicious. ;->\n\n-- \nCheers, "That article and its poster have been cancelled." \nRick Moen -- David B. O\'Donnel, sysadmin for America Online\[email protected]\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00249.5123280972d4935e630a46f92266f6c8 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs \nOn 0020 +0100 %{!Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 11:53:32PM +0100}, Darragh wrote:\n> the help that I received today. Then though I tried to build them. I\n> started by trying the w3 program. I used the following lines which produced\n> some strange results. Would any one be able to set me straight?\n> \n> ./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/usr/local/src/beta/w3 --exec-prefix=/usr/\n> local/src/beta/w3 --with-url=/url/url\nOne thing I _think_ you might be doing slightly wrong is your\nspecification of prefixes. --prefix is the directory to be used as root\nfor _installing_ files. Typically packages use /usr/local as default\n(so binaries might then go in /usr/local/bin, documentation in\n/usr/local/doc and so forth).\nNormally, I find it sufficient to put --prefix=/usr/local, and do not\nfurther specify things like --exec-prefix.\n\nMaybe you have a special reason for using the prefixes you chose, in\nwhich case ignore me!\n> That worked fine so I moved to the next step.\n> make\n> At the bottem of the text I got the following messages:\n> Cannot open load file: /url/url/url-vars.el\n> make[1]: *** [custom-load.el] Error 255\n> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/beta/w3/lisp\'\n> make: *** [w3] Error 2\n> \n> When I got around to trying the url package I had no problems. In saying\n> that this doesn\'t necessarily mean that I was doing it right so below are\n> the commands I used.\n> ./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/url/url --exec-prefix=/url/url\nI\'d make the same remarks about prefixes here. I would use the command\n ./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/usr/local\n\nTo get w3 to compile, I think the with-url flag you should use is\n --with-url=/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/\n(Assuming you compiled/installed url with --prefix=/usr/local\nSince you appear to have installed url in /url/url, configure w3 with\n./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/usr/local/ --with-url=/url/url/share/emacs/site-lisp\n\nA command you would have found useful would have been\n find / -name \'url-vars.el\' -print\nWhich would have told you where the url-vars.el file was installed.\n\nA program which is very useful is checkinstall\nhttp://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/\nIt allows you to install packages from source while still registering\nthem in the package management system of your distro (rpm,deb,tgz).\nInstead of "make install" type "checkinstall", and a package is put\ntogether and installed for you. Makes uninstallation simpler than it\nmight otherwise be.\n-- \nMichael Conry Ph.:+353-1-7161987, Web: http://www.acronymchile.com\nKey fingerprint = 5508 B563 6791 5C84 A947 CB01 997B 3598 09DE 502C\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00250.c99c3af1901ffb471442f3ef4580ffc8 |
0 | ['Subject: RE: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs \nHello all,\nFirstly I\'d like to thank all of you for the fast and very helpful feedback\nthat I got to my question today. I have one more question though. I\ndownloaded the w3 and url files from the server at the first try thanks to\nthe help that I received today. Then though I tried to build them. I\nstarted by trying the w3 program. I used the following lines which produced\nsome strange results. Would any one be able to set me straight?\n\n./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/usr/local/src/beta/w3 --exec-prefix=/usr/\nlocal/src/beta/w3 --with-url=/url/url\nThat worked fine so I moved to the next step.\nmake\nAt the bottem of the text I got the following messages:\nCannot open load file: /url/url/url-vars.el\nmake[1]: *** [custom-load.el] Error 255\nmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/beta/w3/lisp\'\nmake: *** [w3] Error 2\n\nWhen I got around to trying the url package I had no problems. In saying\nthat this doesn\'t necessarily mean that I was doing it right so below are\nthe commands I used.\n./configure --with-emacs --prefix=/url/url --exec-prefix=/url/url\nfollowed by the commands make and make install.\nThere is no text files which contain help on installing the url package so\nI\'m not completely certain if I\'ve used the right method here.\n\nThanks again\n\nDarragh\n----- Original Message -----\nFrom: "Hunt, Bryan" <[email protected]>\nTo: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>\nCc: <[email protected]>\nSent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:08 PM\nSubject: OT: RE: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs\n\n\n>\n> speaking of that IDE (weblogic developer) the open source version called\n> eclipse is free from eclipse.org If you are doing java development you\n> need to get this IDE . I\'ve been using it for the last month and it is\n> absolutly superb. Best thing about it is that rather than using swing\n> (which is crap) is that they have their own native widget set called swt.\n>\n> When you run it on windows it uses windows widgets but when you run it on\n> linux it uses gtk, you should see it on gnome 2 ! Absolutely stunning !\n>\n> --B\n>\n> -----Original Message-----\n> From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[email protected]]\n> Sent: 05 September 2002 16:53\n> To: [email protected]\n> Cc: [email protected]\n> Subject: RE: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs\n>\n>\n> This is the best step by step guide to setting up cvs on Redhat..\n>\n>\nhttp://www7b.software.ibm.com/wsdd/library/techarticles/0205_yu/yu.html?open\n> &l=456,t=gr\n>\n> It is for a particular IBM ide, but the setup and testing of the server is\n> the same for any CVS client\n>\n> Both The "Using Linux" and "Linux in a nutshell" book by Oreilly have\n> sections on cvs /rcs , and both books are a must buy for any linux newbie\n>\n>\n> Justin\n>\n>\n> > -----Original Message-----\n> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of\n> > Michael Conry\n> > Sent: 05 September 2002 16:34\n> > To: Darragh\n> > Cc: [email protected]\n> > Subject: Re: [ILUG] Newby to Linux looking for information on cvs\n> >\n> >\n> > On 0020 +0100 %{!Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 3:55:16PM +0100}, Darragh wrote:\n> > > Hello,\n> > > I am very new to Linux and need some help on a utility called\n> > cvs. As far\n> > > as I\'m aware its a similar protocol to FTP. I need to use it\n> > to download a\n> > > program from :pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/w3.\n> > I am looking\n> > > for information on how to use it. I\'ll have another look at\n> > the man pages\n> > > but I think I have to set it up before I can download anything.\n> > cvs is really a very different kind of thing to FTP, but the details of\n> > that statement are left as an exercise to the reader (won\'t show up my\n> > own ignorance that way ;-)\n> > The application you want is cvsclient...\n> > There is documentation here:\n> > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/gnu/docs/cvs/cvsclient_toc.html\n> >\n> > You might get a quick idea of how it works from here:\n> > http://www.sci.muni.cz/~mikulik/gnuplot.html\n> > where he explains how to get cvs gnuplot...\n> > The commands are:\n> >\n> > export\n> > CVSROOT=:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gnuplot\n> > cvs login\n> > cvs -z3 checkout gnuplot\n> >\n> > Something similar will probably do the job for you. I\'m guessing the\n> > following MIGHT work...\n> >\n> > export CVSROOT=:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/w3\n> > cvs login\n> > cvs -z3 checkout w3\n> >\n> > m\n> > --\n> > Michael Conry Ph.:+353-1-7161987, Web: http://www.acronymchile.com\n> > Key fingerprint = 5508 B563 6791 5C84 A947 CB01 997B 3598 09DE 502C\n> >\n> > --\n> > Irish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\n> > http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\n> > information.\n> > List maintainer: [email protected]\n> >\n> >\n> >\n>\n>\n> --\n> Irish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\n> http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\ninformation.\n> List maintainer: [email protected]\n>\n> --\n> Irish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\n> http://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription\ninformation.\n> List maintainer: [email protected]\n>\n\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n'] | 00251.7b7563dab83993b166e03ab8f052c5ac |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] windows users accessing cvs... \nQuoting kevin lyda ([email protected]):\n\n> anyone here have experience with windows cvs clients accessing a cvs\n> server *securely*. preferably using ssh of some form (putty or cygwin\'s\n> openssh port) and the wincvs client?\n\nHere\'s something I cobbled together:\nhttp://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=9026&group_id=13487\n\n-- \nCheers, "I don\'t like country music, but I don\'t mean to denigrate\nRick Moen those who do. And, for the people who like country music,\[email protected] denigrate means \'put down\'." -- Bob Newhart\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n'] | 00252.18ef1111d1d7543890e6b0a7eb13e014 |
0 | ['Subject: [ILUG] PCTel modules \nHello again. I tried all the suggestions for the PCTel driver and at the end of it, everything still goes smoothly until I type "make" after I get the output from the ./configure. \n\nHowever, there were a couple of things I noticed along the way. After typing \n* cp configs/kernel-2.4...config .config\n* make oldconfig\n* make dep\nThe 2nd to last line I got back said that the modversions.h file was not updated. When I looked at this path to the modversions.h file, it was 281 lines and every line started with a # mark. Is it the case that nothing is read on a line after a # mark (or am I just thinking of another language?) and so should I delete the # at certain places?\n\nAlso, when I was in the pctel directory and typed "make", I noticed that a different subdirectory is taken to a different modversions.h file. Inside this other file, there\'s nothing at all. And so I moved the modversions.h file with 281 lines to the empty modversions.h file - and got a different reply after "make". The output after I moved the file over mostly looked like this:\n/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:11:33: linux/modules/adb.ver: No such file or directory\n/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:12:37: linux/modules/af_ax25.ver: No such file or directory\n/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:13:36: linux/modules/af_ipx.ver: No such file or directory\n\nThe odd lines being the path and the first half of the other lines are what\'s written after the # in the modversions.h file. Should there be a file at each of these (one at each of the 281 lines of the file) that I\'d have to compile/make?\n\nIt\'s taken plenty of elbow grease, but I\'m glad it hasn\'t gone smoothly, it\'s a good learning experience. Again, any help is appreciated. Thanks, Eric\n\n_____________________________________________________________\nemail services provided by trackbike.com, your source for alleycat and trackbike photos. submissions welcome.\n\n_____________________________________________________________\nPromote your group and strengthen ties to your members with [email protected] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n'] | 00253.a396ca42887c9f843052432ff1bcbf41 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] PCTel modules \nOn 0020 -0700 %{!Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 3:17:36PM -0700}, eric nichols wrote:\n> Hello again. I tried all the suggestions for the PCTel driver and at\n> the end of it, everything still goes smoothly until I type "make"\n> after I get the output from the ./configure. \n> \n> However, there were a couple of things I noticed along the way. After typing \n> * cp configs/kernel-2.4...config .config\n> * make oldconfig\n> * make dep\n> The 2nd to last line I got back said that the modversions.h file was\n> not updated. When I looked at this path to the modversions.h file, it\n> was 281 lines and every line started with a # mark.\n> Is it the case\n> that nothing is read on a line after a # mark (or am I just thinking\n> of another language?) and so should I delete the # at certain places?\nNo that is appropriate content for the file. I\'m not a C programmer,\nbut I think that these sort of things (#include <blahblah>) are\ninstructions to the compiler processed by a pre-processor in the compile\nprocess, and include all sorts of symbols/functions\ne.g. "#include <math.h>" gives you maths type functions. Since they\nstart with "#" they are ignored in the final compilation.\n\nRegarding the rest of the compile process, you need to tell the PCtel\nsoftware to look in the right place for the kernel headers/source. \nI recall from your previous mail that there was a flag\n --with-kernel-includes=/usr/src/linux-2.4\nwhich could be passed to the ./configure script (with the appropriate\ndirectory in place of /usr/src/linux-2.4). This might allow you to\npersuade the code to compile against the correct headers. I think this\nis the right way to proceed.\n\nAlternatively, maybe the steps above regarding "make dep" and so forth\nshould have been performed in the directory where the make process is\nlooking for modversions.h & Co.\n\nI don\'t think it is a good idea keep moving files into the directory as\nyou describe below. First of all you will move modversions.h (which you\nhave done), then you would have to move all those *.ver files, after\nthat, there will almost certainly be a need for further header (*.h)\nfiles. This could be quickly done, but is probably bad (those files\ndon\'t really belong there).\n\nFor what it\'s worth I think you are very close to a successful\ncompilation.\n\nm\n\n> \n> Also, when I was in the pctel directory and typed "make", I noticed\n> that a different subdirectory is taken to a different modversions.h\n> file. Inside this other file, there\'s nothing at all. And so I moved\n> the modversions.h file with 281 lines to the empty modversions.h file\n> - and got a different reply after "make". The output after I moved the\n> file over mostly looked like this:\n> /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:11:33:\n> linux/modules/adb.ver: No such file or directory\n> /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:12:37:\n> linux/modules/af_ax25.ver: No such file or directory\n> /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3/linux/modversions.h:13:36:\n> linux/modules/af_ipx.ver: No such file or directory\n> \n> The odd lines being the path and the first half of the other lines are\n> what\'s written after the # in the modversions.h file. Should there be\n> a file at each of these (one at each of the 281 lines of the file)\n> that I\'d have to compile/make?\n\n-- \nMichael Conry Ph.:+353-1-7161987, Web: http://www.acronymchile.com\nKey fingerprint = 5508 B563 6791 5C84 A947 CB01 997B 3598 09DE 502C\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n'] | 00254.84ee8f124a5dbb36412c2e2d5cca3095 |
0 | ["Subject: [ILUG] semaphores on linux RH7.3 \nHi All,\n\nI have a question which is a bit tricky and was\nwondering of anyone has come across this problem\nbefore or could point me in the right direction.\n\nI am involved in porting a SCO unix application to\nLinux, and we have encountered a problem with the way\nsemaphores are being handled. The application uses\nmulitple processes to run application code with the\nmain process known as the bsh which controls all i/o\nbe it screen, or file i/o, syncronisation is handled\nvia semaphores.\n\nIn certain circumstances the main process and the\napplication child process seem to lock up both waiting\nfor the syncronisation semaphores to change state, I\nhave attached ddd to the processes and it seems that\nthe semaphore code is doing the correct things for\nsyncronisation but the processes stay stuck in the\nsemop() system call.\n\nI have also noticed that if I introduce a slight delay\nbetween changing semaphore states the problem goes\naway, but this causes our entire application to run\nreally sloooww !! lol\n\nIs there anything weird or different with the standard\nimplemenation of semaphores on modern linux that could\ncause a semop() to fail to pick up the change in state\n\nin a semaphore immediately?\n\nSetting sem_flg = IPC_NOWAIT and checking for errno ==\nEAGAIN and recalling semop() if the semop() call fails\n(-1) also fixes the problem but again system\nperformance goes down the toilet.\n\nboth the parent controlling process run as the same\nuid, and the parent creates the semaphores with\npermissions 0666.\n\nAny pointers would be appreciated!\n\nRgds,\n\nColin Nevin \n\n__________________________________________________\nDo You Yahoo!?\nEverything you'll ever need on one web page\nfrom News and Sport to Email and Music Charts\nhttp://uk.my.yahoo.com\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n"] | 00255.11be25bd4a3d55702ed4a1f13e7d2a3d |
0 | ["Subject: Re: use of base image / delta image for automated recovery from attacks \n\n\ntake a look at http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,102881,00.asp\n\n Andrey mailto:[email protected]\n\n\n\nBM> Does anyone do this already? Or is this a new concept? Or has this concept\nBM> been discussed before and abandoned for some reasons that I don't yet know?\nBM> I use the physical architecture of a basic web application as an example in\nBM> this post, but this concept could of course be applied to most server\nBM> systems. It would allow for the hardware-separation of volatile and\nBM> non-volatile disk images. It would be analogous to performing nightly\nBM> ghosting operations, only it would be more efficient and involve less (or\nBM> no) downtime.\n\nBM> Thanks for any opinions,\nBM> Ben\n\n\n"] | 00256.53663e6f042c696de327ed117c0990c4 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: The absurdities of life. \nOn Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:51:54AM -0700, Elias wrote:\n> So, given the apparent commonality of these occurances, companies appear \n> to be losing a large amount of money by mailing these tiny checks out. \n> Why can't they simply credit the account in question on the next bill? \n> Granted, if an account has been closed there is no such option...\n\nI've been waiting for Hettinga to regale us with one of his well-tuned\nmicro-cash-bearer-settlement-geodesic-finance rants. Bob, you are SO \ndisappointing me.\n\n-- \nnjl\n\n\n"] | 00257.3e5b4e24045e108fedeff7d6ff8eecc5 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: The absurdities of life. \n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA1\n\nAt 3:25 PM -0400 on 10/8/02, Ned Jackson Lovely wrote:\n\n\n> I\'ve been waiting for Hettinga to regale us with one of his\n> well-tuned micro-cash-bearer-settlement-geodesic-finance rants.\n> Bob, you are SO disappointing me.\n\nHow about if I include it by reference...\n\n<http://www.ibuc.com/pdfs/geoecon.pdf>\n\n:-).\n\nBlue in the face,\nRAH\n\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: PGP 7.5\n\niQA/AwUBPaMxL8PxH8jf3ohaEQJOvwCgwLjDfcRLc/15ohgtx/Y7Vvrl/5IAn0iA\neEFqCWCvykjwv+8jPA/PpDsf\n=vNcJ\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----\n\n-- \n-----------------\nR. A. Hettinga <mailto: [email protected]>\nThe Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>\n44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA\n"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,\n[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to\nexperience." -- Edward Gibbon, \'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire\'\n\n\n'] | 00258.586a8a7ca9e58ea82936ef0487ae8638 |
0 | ['Subject: process music: Mekons \nhttp://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=entertainmentnews&StoryID=1543345\n\nWorking this loose knit fashion is what keeps the Mekons so exciting, \nLangford said. "When the Mekons was our whole day job, it became a \ndrudgery," he said. " Sometimes we get bogged down and trapped. But we\'re \nusually pretty greasy enough to bite our leg off, squirm free and run \noff."\n\n\n\n'] | 00259.7310c53a2b5baca35187f0ee38aab709 |
0 | ["Subject: Origins of Software Engineering \nThe academic discipline of Software Engineering was launched at a conference\nsponsored by NATO, at Garmisch, Germany, in October, 1968. Intriguingly, the\nterm Software Engineering was chosen to be deliberately provocative -- why\ncan't software be developed with the same rigor used by other engineering\ndisciplines?\n\nThe proceedings of this conference are now available online, at:\nhttp://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/old/people/brian.randell/home.formal/NATO/index.html\n\nAlso, don't miss the pictures of attendees, including many significant\ncontributors to the field of Software Engineering:\nhttp://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/old/people/brian.randell/home.formal/NATO/N1968/inde\nx.html\n\n- Jim\n\n\n"] | 00260.9c633d54c32d46465f4162f3a91f553c |
0 | ['Subject: The Disappearing Alliance \nhttp://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/printer.jsp?CID=1051-100802B\n\n\n\nThe Disappearing Alliance\nBy Dale Franks 10/08/2002\n\n\nFor over two generations, the countries of Western Europe have been our\nclosest allies. We stood beside each other through the darkest days of the\nCold War as partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. We\ncelebrated with them over the fall of the Soviet Empire and the liberation\nof Eastern Europe from the yoke of communism.\n\nTragically, a generation from now, we may be bitter adversaries.\n\nEurope has increasingly fallen under the spell of a political ideology that\nHudson Institute scholar John Fonte has termed "progressive\ntransnationalism". The key doctrines of this form of post-communist\nprogressivism contain some fairly pernicious ideas. Among these are the\ndeconstruction of nationalism, the promotion of post-nationalist ideas of\ncitizenship (i.e. a "global" citizenry), a redefinition of democracy, and\nthe pooling of national sovereignty into multinational groups such as the\nUnited Nations.\n\nThe European Union, itself a multinational organization built through the\npooling of sovereignty by European nations, is post-democratic. While there\nis a European Parliament, the EU\'s power resides mainly in the unelected\nEuropean Commission (EC) and its unelected President, who face few limits\nto their power. Instead of a limited, consensual form of government, where\nelected representatives promulgate constitutional laws, the EU has an\nappointed, oligarchic executive, along with a large attendant bureaucracy,\nwhose orders are not constitutionally limited in any real sense. Moreover,\nthe EU has been unwilling to accept the democratically expressed wishes of\nthe people themselves when those wishes conflict with the results desired\nby the EU\'s political elite. Both the EC and the European Court of Justice\nregularly overturn the national laws of democratically elected EU member\ngovernments. This is a step backward in Europe\'s political development.\n\nEuropean criticism of America is on the rise, and the European list of\ncomplaints about America is a long and growing one. They dislike the fact\nthat our republican system of government is not based on proportional\nrepresentation. They hate the fact that our citizens own guns. They despise\nthe fact that we execute murderers. They resent the fact that our economy\nis so large, and that Americans consume so much. They also resent?and fear\n- the fact that we have the ability to project American power anywhere\nin the world.\n\nOn August 9, 2002, Adrian Hamilton wrote a column in the UK\'s Independent\nnewspaper, in which he identified the US as a rogue state who should be\nrestrained, perhaps by a European military invasion, followed by a decade\nor so of occupation. Fortunately, the article is satirical not because it\nexaggerates the way European progressives view the US, but rather because\nthe impotence of European military power makes the idea of an invasion of\nthe US literally fantastic.\n\nAt least, for now.\n\nDespite the tongue-in-cheek nature of this editorial, however, the fact\nremains that America is increasingly viewed this way by the European\nintellectual and political elite.\n\nThe Europeans actively desire a world where the United Nations keeps in\ncheck the activities of sovereign states. Because they have built such a\nsystem in Europe, they feel it\'s valid for the rest of the world. America,\nhowever, is the biggest obstacle to such a system. The Europeans cannot\nunderstand why America places a higher value on the ethos of national\nsovereignty and limited, consensual, and constitutional government, than it\ndoes on compliance with international "norms." They view all departures\nfrom such norms as aberrant. Because the UN member states all have an equal\nvote in prescribing international norms, they assume that, since the\nprocess is ostensibly legitimate, the results must be as well. The trouble\nwith this idea, of course, is that it gives the views of non-democratic,\nauthoritarian states the same weight as those of free, democratic\nsocieties. It sanctifies the process, with no regard to the actual results.\n\nThus, they are unable to make any moral distinction between the US refusals\nto join in a given international effort because we wish to preserve the\nliberty of our citizens, and similar refusals from Iraq because its\ndictator wishes to maintain his firm grip on power. Our repeated references\nto the US Constitution, and our unwillingness to bypass its provisions to\ncomply with international norms, are incomprehensible to them. They assume,\ntherefore, that our refusal is based on arrogance, rather than on a\ncommitment to\nconstitutional rights.\n\nNone of this bodes well for the future of Euro-American friendship, or\ncooperation. If the Europeans continue to reject traditional liberalism in\nfavor of the new progressivism, their criticism of the US will rise, while\ntheir tolerance of our differences will fall. Obviously, in such a\npolitical atmosphere, the opportunities for conflict will inevitably\nincrease.\n\nThat thought is frightening enough. Even more frightening, however, is the\nthought that such a conflict might be averted by our own acceptance of the\nnew ideology of transnational progressivism.\n\n\n-- \n-----------------\nR. A. Hettinga <mailto: [email protected]>\nThe Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>\n44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA\n"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,\n[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to\nexperience." -- Edward Gibbon, \'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire\'\n\n\n'] | 00261.9e12183461e1f5e5061eb9f8d39d9822 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: The Disappearing Alliance \n\n\nOK, lets break this down into the Kevin Smith worldview taht equate\neverything with Star Wars...\n\nEU is the Republic/empire and we are..what,..the Trade Federation?\nStretch this out and it could be seen that the UN is the Jedi, complete\nwith faling powers.\n\nWork with me folks...\n\n\n\n'] | 00262.ce0f0852efe359866e64ad9a524e51d4 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: The absurdities of life. \nSo, given the apparent commonality of these occurances, companies appear \nto be losing a large amount of money by mailing these tiny checks out. \nWhy can't they simply credit the account in question on the next bill? \nGranted, if an account has been closed there is no such option...\n\nElias\n\n\nChristopher Haun wrote:\n\n> eheh i'll do yah one better i have a check some place (i just moved or i'd \n> go scan it in) for $0.01 from Time Warner Cable. \n\n\n\n"] | 00263.6be4d6f2afb3d1b5b8acee019e560ce4 |
0 | ["Subject: RE: The Disappearing Alliance \n\n> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R.\nA.\n> Hettinga\n> Subject: The Disappearing Alliance\n> \n> http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/printer.jsp?CID=1051-100802B\n> \n> \n> \n> The Disappearing Alliance\n> By Dale Franks 10/08/2002\n\n> Obviously, in such a\n> political atmosphere, the opportunities for conflict will inevitably\n> increase.\n\nGiven current trends, particularly in demographics, such conflict won't\nbe military. Europe wouldn't stand a chance now and things are getting\nworse in a hurry. They are SOL.\n\nNot to mention that when push comes to shove they wouldn't stand united.\n\n> \n> That thought is frightening enough. Even more frightening, however, is\nthe\n> thought that such a conflict might be averted by our own acceptance of\nthe\n> new ideology of transnational progressivism.\n\nNow that is a scary thought.\n]\n\n\n\n"] | 00264.cef5d54bbce2f4a833aab06487467f82 |
0 | ['Subject: Lord of the Ringtones: Arbocks vs. Seelecks \nI can\'t believe I actually read a laugh-out-loud funny profile of the \n*FCC Commissioner* fer crissakes! So the following article comes \nrecommended, a fine explanation of Michael Powell\'s extraordinary \nequivocation.\n\nOn the other hand, I can also agree with Werbach\'s Werblog entry... Rohit\n\n> A Trip to F.C.C. World\n>\n> Nicholas Lemann has a piece in the New Yorker this week about FCC \n> Chairman Michael Powell.\xa0 It\'s one of the first articles I\'ve seen that \n> captures some of Powell\'s real personality, and the way he\'s viewed in \n> Washington.\xa0 Unfortunately, Lemann ends by endorsing conventional \n> political wisdom.\xa0 After describing how Powell isn\'t really a \n> fire-breathing ideological conservative, he concludes that, in essence, \n> Powell favors the inumbent local Bell telephone companies, while a \n> Democratic FCC would favor new entrants.\xa0 I know that\'s not how Powell \n> sees the world, and though I disagree with him on many issues, I think \n> he\'s right to resist the old dichotomy.\n>\n> The telecom collapse should be a humbling experience for anyone who \n> went through it.\xa0 The disaster wasn\'t the regulators\' fault, as some \n> conservatives argue.\xa0 But something clearly went horribly wrong, and \n> policy-makers should learn from that experience.\xa0 Contrary to Lemann\'s \n> speculation, the upstart carriers won\'t be successful in a Gore \n> administration, because it\'s too late.\xa0 Virtually all of them are dead, \n> and Wall Street has turned off the capital tap for the foreseeable \n> future.\xa0 Some may survive, but as small players rather than \n> world-dominators.\xa0\n>\n> The battle between CLECs and RBOCs that Lemann so astutely parodies is \n> old news.\xa0 The next important battle in telecom will be between those \n> who want to stay within the traditional boxes, and those who use \n> different models entirely.\xa0 That\'s why open broadband networks and open \n> spectrum are so important.\xa0 Whatever the regulatory environment, there \n> is going to be consolidation in telecom.\xa0 Those left out in that \n> consolidation will face increasing pressure to create new pipes into \n> the home, or slowly die. The victors in the consolidation game will cut \n> back on innovation and raise prices, which will create further pressure \n> for alternatives.\xa0\n>\n> Lemann is right that policy-making looks much drier and more ambiguous \n> on the ground than through the lens of history.\xa0 But he\'s wrong in \n> thinking that telecom\'s future will be something like its past.\n>\n> Friday, October 04, 2002\n> 11:17:11 AM \xa0comments\xa0{0}\xa0\n\n==============================================================\nhttp://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/021007fa_fact\n\nTHE CHAIRMAN\t\nby NICHOLAS LEMANN\nHe\'s the other Powell, and no one is sure what he\'s up to.\nNew Yorker, October 8, 2002\n\nLast year, my middle son, in eighth grade and encountering his first \nfairly serious American-history course, indignantly reported that the \nwhole subject was incomprehensible. I was shocked. What about Gettysburg \nand the Declaration of Independence and the Selma-to-Montgomery march? \nJust look at my textbook, he said, and when I did I saw his point. His \nclass had got up to the eighteen-forties. What I expected was a big \nbeefing up of the roles of Sacagawea and Crispus Attucks, and, in-deed, \nthere was some of that. But the main difference between my son\'s text \nand that of my own childhood was that somebody had made the disastrous \ndecision to devote most of it to what had actually happened in American \nhistory. There were pages and pages on tariffs and bank charters and \nreciprocal trade agreements. I skipped ahead, past the Civil War, hoping \nfor easier going, only to encounter currency floats and the regulation \nof freight rates. Only a few decades into the twentieth century did it \nbecome possible to see the federal government\'s main function as \nresponding to dramatic crises and launching crusades for social justice, \ninstead of attempting to referee competing claims from economic \ninterests.\n\nEven now, if one were to reveal what really goes on behind the pretty \nspeeches and the sanctimonious hearings in Washington, what you\'d find \nis thousands of lawyers and lobbyists madly vying for advantage, not so \nmuch over the public as over each other: agribusiness versus real \nestate, banks versus insurance companies, and so on. The arena in which \nthis competition mainly takes place is regulatory agencies and \ncommissions and the congressional committees that supervise them. It\'s \nan insider\'s game, less because the players are secretive than because \nthe public and the press—encouraged by the players, who speak in jargon—\ncan\'t get themselves interested.\n\nOne corner of Washington might be called F.C.C. World, for the Federal \nCommunications Commission. F.C.C. World has perhaps five thousand \ndenizens. They work at the commission itself, at the House and Senate \ncommerce committees, and at the Washington offices of the companies that \nthe commission regulates. They read Communications Daily (subscription \nprice: $3,695 a year), and every year around Christmastime they \ngrumblingly attend the Chairman\'s Dinner, at a Washington hotel, where \nthe high point of the evening is a scripted, supposedly self-deprecating \ncomedy routine by the commission\'s chairman.\n\nOf all the federal agencies and commissions, the F.C.C. is the one that \nAmericans ought to be most interested in; after all, it is involved with \na business sector that accounts for about fifteen per cent of the \nAmerican economy, as well as important aspects of daily life—telephone \nand television and radio and newspapers and the Internet. And right now \nF.C.C. World is in, if not a crisis, at least a very soapy lather, \nbecause a good portion of what the angry public thinks of as the \n"corporate scandals" concerns the economic collapse of companies \nregulated by the F.C.C. Qwest, WorldCom, Adelphia, and Global Crossing, \namong others, are (or were) part of F.C.C. World. AOL Time Warner is \npart of F.C.C. World. Jack Grubman, the former Salomon Smith Barney \nanalyst who seems to have succeeded Kenneth Lay, of Enron, as the \nembodiment of the corporate scandals, is part of F.C.C. World. In the \npast two years, companies belonging to F.C.C. World have lost trillions \nof dollars in stock-market valuation, and have collectively served as a \ndead weight pulling down the entire stock market.\n\nThis year, an alarmed and acerbic anonymous memorandum about the state \nof the F.C.C. has been circulating widely within F.C.C. World. It evokes \nF.C.C. World\'s feverish mood ("The F.C.C. is fiddling while Rome burns") \nand suggests why nobody besides residents of F.C.C. World has thought of \nthe commission in connection with the corporate scandals. The sentence I \njust quoted is followed by this explanation: "The ILECs appear likely to \nenter all l.d. markets within twelve months, while losing virtually no \nresidential customers to attackers since 1996, and suffering about 10% \nmarket share loss in business lines to CLECs." It\'s a lot easier to \nthink about evil C.E.O.s than to decipher that.\n\n\nEven in good times, F.C.C. World pays obsessive attention to the \ncommission\'s chairman. In bad times, the attention becomes especially \nintense; and when the chairman is a celebrity F.C.C. World devotes \nitself to full-time chairman-watching. The current chairman, Michael \nPowell, is a celebrity, at least by government-official standards, \nbecause he is the only son of Colin Powell, the Secretary of State. \nUnlike his father, he has a kind of mesmerizing ambiguity, which \ngenerates enormous, and at times apoplectically toned, speculation about \nwho he really is and what he\'s really up to. Powell is young to be the \nhead of a federal agency—he is thirty-nine—and genially charming. \nEverybody likes him. Before becoming chairman, he was for three years \none of the F.C.C.\'s five commissioners; not only is he fluent in the \nF.C.C.\'s incomprehensible patois, he has a Clintonesque love of the \narcane details of communications policy. He\'s always saying that he\'s an \n"avid moderate." And yet he has a rage-inciting quality. One of his \npredecessors as chairman, Reed Hundt, quoted in Forbes, compared Powell \nto Herbert Hoover. Mark Cooper, of the Consumer Federation of America, \ncalls him "radical and extreme." Just as often as he\'s accused of being \na right-wing ideologue, Powell gets accused of being paralytically \ncautious. "It ain\'t about singing \'Kum-Ba-Yah\' around the campfire," \nanother former chairman, William Kennard, says. "You have to have an \nanswer." One day last spring, Powell, testifying before a Senate \nsubcommittee, delivered an anodyne opening statement, and the \nsubcommittee\'s chairman, Ernest Hollings, of South Carolina, berated \nhim. "You don\'t care about these regulations," Hollings said. "You don\'t \ncare about the law or what Congress sets down. . . . That\'s the \nfundamental. That\'s the misgiving I have of your administration over \nthere. It just is amazing to me. You just pell-mell down the road and \nseem to not care at all. I think you\'d be a wonderful executive \nvice-president of a chamber of commerce, but not a chairman of a \nregulatory commission at the government level. Are you happy in your \njob?"\n\n"Extremely," Powell said, with an amiable smile.\n\n\nOne cannot understand Powell\'s maddening effect, at least on Democrats \nand liberal activists, without understanding not just the stated purpose \nof the commission he chairs but also its real purpose. The F.C.C. was \ncreated by Congress in 1934, but it existed in prototype well before the \nNew Deal, because it performs a function that is one of the classic easy \ncases for government intervention in the private economy: making sure \nthat broadcasters stick to their assigned spots on the airwaves. Its \nother original function was preventing American Telephone & Telegraph, \nthe national monopoly phone company, from treating its cust'] | 00265.d0ebd6ba8f3e2b8d71e9cdaa2ec6fd91 |
0 | ['Subject: [NYT] Korea\'s Real Rage for Virtual Games \nhttp://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/09/technology/09KORE.html\n\nBroadband\'s killer application \x97 the one activity that dwarfs all others \x97\nis online gaming, which 80 percent of South Koreans under 25 play, according\nto one recent study. Critics say the burgeoning industry is creating\nmillions of zombified addicts who are turning on and tuning into computer\ngames, and dropping out of school and traditional group activities, becoming\nuncommunicative and even violent because of the electronic games they play.\n\n"Game players don\'t have normal social relationships anymore," said Kim Hyun\nSoo, a 36-year-old psychiatrist who is chairman of the Net Addiction\nTreatment Center, one of many groups that have sprung up to cope with\nInternet game addiction. "Young people are losing the ability to relate to\nothers, except through games. People who become addicted are prone to\nviolence, even when they are not playing.\n\n- Jim\n\n\n'] | 00266.edda19cbe2bb12d6aca8f9550b870824 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: ActiveBuddy \nAt 12:05 PM 10/4/28 -0400, Stephen D. Williams wrote:\n\n>Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2028 12:05:01 -0400\n>\n>I actually thought of this kind of active chat at AOL (in 1996 I think), \n>bringing up ads based on what was being discussed and other features. For \n>a while, the VP of dev. (now still CTO I think) was really hot on the idea \n>and they discussed patenting it. Then they lost interest. Probably a \n>good thing.\n\n[note date: header]\n\nCan I borrow your time machine, pretty please?\n\nUdhay\n\n-- \n((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))\n\n\n'] | 00267.332a04bf60ba54e3a303ee253fb977ee |
0 | ["Subject: [ILUG] connecting at 1200bps in RH7.3 (help!) \nHi All,\n\nAnyone ever try connecting at 1200bps in Linux? I've got a USR 56K\nFaxmodem which is meant to connect to another (same) modem and I have to\nconnect at this speed due to the (NT) port settings on the remote side,\nbut the modem handshake always fails at this speed.\n\nThe modem handshake works at slightly higher speeds (4800bps to\n~57600bps) but that is no good for tx/rx'ing data to the remote server\nas it insists at talking at the speed of treacle/1200bps.\n\nNote Minicom fails to handshake at 1200bps, but HyperTerm in Windows\nworked first time(!?), any ideas?\n\nBaud 1200 7 data bits Even Parity\n\nI am doing a ATZ3 to reset the modem then I send this init string:\n\nAT&F1E1V1Q0X4Y0S32=232&A1&B0&C1&D2&H0&I0&K1&M4&N0&P0&R1&S0&U0&Y1\n\n... which is most of the defaults.\n\nUSR said to set S15=128 (disables v.42)) \n& set S32=98 (disable v.92 & X2)\n\nBut the S15=128 just makes the handshake lockup instead of just giving\nup.\n\nbtw this is a bank's system I am connecting to so reconfiguring their\nmodems may be difficult.\n\nColin.\n\n\n-- \nColin Nevin,\nSoftware Engineer,\nMerit Solutions Ltd. (Dublin),\n5 Goatstown Cross,\nDublin 14.\n------------------------------------------\nPrinted using 100% recycled electrons.\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n"] | 00268.ed64201ab977eaad5fd6ad999c2f8255 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: [ILUG] connecting at 1200bps in RH7.3 (help!) \nColin Nevin wrote:\n> \n> Hi All,\n> The modem handshake works at slightly higher speeds (4800bps to\n> ~57600bps) but that is no good for tx/rx'ing data to the remote server\n> as it insists at talking at the speed of treacle/1200bps.\n\nIt sounds like the flow control is set to Xon/Xoff rather than hardware.\n\n> Baud 1200 7 data bits Even Parity\n\nUnusual - 8 n 1 is more common.\n\n> \n> I am doing a ATZ3 to reset the modem then I send this init string:\n> \n> AT&F1E1V1Q0X4Y0S32=232&A1&B0&C1&D2&H0&I0&K1&M4&N0&P0&R1&S0&U0&Y1\n\nI think that the AT command for hardware flow control is &E4 though this\nmay vary from modem to modem.\n\nRegards...zzzzcc\n-- \n********************************************\nJohn McCormac * Hack Watch News\[email protected] * 22 Viewmount, \nVoice: +353-51-873640 * Waterford,\nBBS&Fax: +353-51-850143 * Ireland\nhttp://www.hackwatch.com/~kooltek\n********************************************\n\n-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----\nVersion: 2.6\n\nmQCNAzAYPNsAAAEEAPGTHaNyitUTNAwF8BU6mF5PcbLQXdeuHf3xT6UOL+/Od+z+\nZOCAx8Ka9LJBjuQYw8hlqvTV5kceLlrP2HPqmk7YPOw1fQWlpTJof+ZMCxEVd1Qz\nTRet2vS/kiRQRYvKOaxoJhqIzUr1g3ovBnIdpKeo4KKULz9XKuxCgZsuLKkVAAUX\ntCJKb2huIE1jQ29ybWFjIDxqbWNjQGhhY2t3YXRjaC5jb20+tBJqbWNjQGhhY2t3\nYXRjaC5jb20=\n=sTfy\n-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----\n-- \nIrish Linux Users' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n"] | 00269.b2b5cff76f0c1d2811d88cdfc81a2b4a |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] cups question \[email protected] (Justin Mason) writes:\n\n> /dev/fd/0 is STDIN -- filedescriptor 0. Looks like the PS file wants\n> to know its filename, but it\'s being read from STDIN, that\'s my\n> guess. \n\nI don\'t think so: it should be getting a stream of PS from stdin,\nbut it\'s not. The printing/spooling system is executing gs but\nsomehow failing to provide it with input.\n\n> Try tweaking the scripts to run "gs" with the ps file on\n> the command line instead of as "-".\n\nThat might clarify that the later part of the system works, but I\nsuspect the problem is earlier.\n\nB\n-- \nBrendan Halpin, Dept of Government and Society, Limerick University, Ireland\nTel: w +353-61-213147 f +353-61-202569 h +353-61-390476; Room F2-025 x 3147\n<mailto:[email protected]> <http://wivenhoe.staff8.ul.ie/~brendan>\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n'] | 00270.d0a83be3891cf0ea26d2af0102e9a875 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] Interesting article on free software licences \n\n\nI have translated the article in full - see \nend of post (I think that I\'ve done a far \nbetter job than the Google translation - at \nleast it\'s readable now - any corrections\nappreciated).\n\nStuff in {}\'s is my (and others) additions \nto the debate.\n\nMy apologies if I\'ve paraphrased anybody \nincorrectly, I will be glad to retract if \nanyone is miffed.\n\n\n\nThe article makes four main points.\n\n\n1) Absence of critical clauses. \n\n\nIn this case, the idea is that the licence \nis invalid because it doesn\'t specify\nunder what country\'s law the GPL is governed.\n\n\n2) Specification in English only.\n\nThat for the end user (as opposed to businesses), \nthe GPL doesn\'t apply because it\'s not written \nin French.\n\n\n3) Arbitary licence change.\n\nThe point here is that (under French law) the \nauthor can change the terms of the licence \narbitarily. This is because any granting of \nrights by an author must be clearly delimited\nin terms of how long, where, to whom, dates and \ntimes. In the absence of such limitations, the \noriginal author has the right to change his \nsoftware back to closed on a whim.\n\n\n{\n\nDavid Neary makes the point that the copyright \nholder automatically retains the right to change \nthe licence.\n\nScott replies it simply requires authorisation from \nall *copyright holders*\n\nThat\'s not my understanding. French law allows a \nGPL type licence *_on condition_* that the \nspecific conditions of the granting of such\nrights are clear - if they are not, there is\nnothing to stop the original author taking\nback "his work". The lawyers see this\n(correctly IMHO) as a weakness in the GPL).\n\n}\n\n\n\n4) Hidden defects.\n\nRoughly, this clause means that the author(s) \nis/are liable for any defects if the consumer \nis not an IT engineer, so if Linux blows up \nand data is lost, then the authors are liable.\n\n\n{\n\nCiaran Johnson says that M$oft and others have \nsimilar clauses - the point here is that they \nare *_all_* invalid - just that this one \naffects the GPL also.\n\nNiall O\'Broinn makes the point that it is not\na sale, but rather a service/leasing arrangement\nand that\'s why it doesn\'t come under this point.\n\nI would suggest that the whole thrust of this\narticle has been to see software "sales" (even\nif no money changes hands) as governed very\nmuch by consumer law (in France anyway).\n\n\nRick Moen makes the point that it is not\na sale but rather a granting of rights which\nare not default. \n\nSee the bit about even the granting of \nrights by an author having to be \nexplicitly specified - under French law.\n\n\nThe fact that two IP lawyers in France think that\nthe GPL is covered as a sale make me feel that \nthere is a de facto sale and a de facto contract.\n\n}\n\n\n\n5) Roughly.\n\nThere may be other reasons under French \nlaw why the GPL may be invalid.\n\n\n\n----- Whole Article. -----------\n\n\nFreedom(a) is worth more than these \nimperfect licences.\n\n\nSpecialised lawyers look at the GPL.\n\n\n\nLawyer Cyril Rojinsky (duly appointed to \nthe court) and the jurist Vincent Grynbaum, both \nspecialised in the area of intellectual property \nexamine the "free" licences and in particular the \nGPL. They have published their study\nin the review "Proprietes intellectuelles \n(Intellectual property)[1]" and their\nconclusion is grim.\n\n\nTheir approach is interesting. The problem for \nthem is not to know whether freedom is valid under \nFrench law (for them the question is a moot point)\nbut rather they asked themselves about the form \nand the content of the text of free licences, and \nin particular the GPL. The problem is not free \nprogrammes, but rather the licence contracts of \nfree programmes.\n\n\n\nAbsence of critical clauses.\n\n\n\nThe authors tell us that first of all, the \nreference to "copyright" is not legally \nsufficient in the framework of international \ncontracts (which is the case of licence \ncontracts for programmes developed and spread \nvia the Internet). The idea of copyright can \nbasically include differences from one country \nto another. This is why, under international \ncontracts, it is necessary to specify to which \nlaws one is referring (French law, American &c.).\n\nThe authors only found three public licences \nwhich were correctly formulated on this point: \nQPL, IBM Public Licence and the Mozilla Public\nLicence).\n\n\n\nSpecification in the English language.\n\n\n\nNext, the authors remind us that (at least in \nFrance), no clause in a contract may be contrary \nto French law [2]. However, it turns out that a \nlicence such as the GPL is contrary to French law \nin several respects. Firstly, it is written in \nEnglish and the FSF doesn\'t officially approve \ntranslations. \n\nThe "Toubon law" obliges this sort \nof contract to be written in French, including for \nbusinesses since the notion of "user" applies not \nonly to consumers, but also to businesses, \nprofessionals &c. \n\n\nContacted by the editors of LinuxFrench, \nlawyer Cyril Rojinsky declared that, as \nfar as business is concerned, the "Toubon \nlaw" is probably doomed to change since \nit is in contradiction of European directives \non the subject, but whatever about that, the \nproblem is still valid for individuals, and \nwhile waiting for it (French law) to change, \nFrench companies have to deal with it, since \nit is the law of the land.\n\n\nA programme under the GPL can suddenly \nchange licence.\n\n\nAnother problem, much more serious, is \nthat according to French law, the author of \na free programme can, at any time, invoke \nthe invalidity of the licence for this \nsoftware by simply changing the licence.\n\n\nIn effect, the law of intellectual \nproperty stipulates that the granting of \nrights by the author is subordinate to \nthe condition that each of these granted \nrights be the object of a distinct clause \nin the granting act (i.e. the licence) and \nthat the granting of any such rights be \ndelimited with respect to its scope and its \ngrantees, and also with respect to its \nlocation (i.e. where such rights may be \nexcersised) and duration of any such grants. \n[3] This is not the case of the GPL nor of\nother free licences. Briefly, this means \nthat in France, or elsewhere if the author \nis French, that which is under the GPL could \nrevert to proprietary from one day to the next. \n \n\n\nThe problem of the guarantee "hidden defects".\n\n\nAn other very serious flaw is that of the \nguarantee. The GPL licences and others show \nthat the software is delivered "without \nguarantee". You are going to immediately\nreply that commercical programmes carry the \nsame clause in their licence contracts,\nand this is correct. However, whatever is \nwritten in a licence contract, one cannot\nfree oneself from the "guarantee from \nhidden defects", since it is imposed in the \nCivil Code. This concept is poorly understood \nby the layman, it protects the buyer\n(whoever it may be, individual or business, \nsince it specifies the Civil Code and not \nconsumer protection law) against hidden \ndefects, deliberate or made in good faith by \nthe seller. \n\n\nFor example, if one buys a pair of socks \nin a sale, and the shop has a notice \nspecifying that "Sale items are neither \nrefunded nor exchanged", and on arriving \nhome you notice that one of the socks has \na hole in it, several scenarios are possible.\n\n\nYou could have checked the socks before \npurchase: the flaw is deemed "obvious" and\nyou can sing for your money.\n\n\nYou couldn\'t check the socks (they were \npackaged for example), and in this case, \ndespite the notice "neither refund nor \nexchange", you may invoke "hidden defect" \nand have them changed or obtain a refund, \nit\'s up to you. \n\nPersonally, I have already invoked in shops \nthe "hidden defect" clause and it always \nworked well (shopkeepers are always very \ncooperative if you quote a couple of words \nof the Civil Code). \n\n\nThe concept of hidden defect is rather \nwide, it is necessary that you hadn\'t \nthe possibility of discovering the defect \nbefore buying the product and then \n(according to the Civil Code) that you \nwouldn\'t have bought it at that price if \nyou had known about the\ndefect.\n\n\nThe third case which is much rarer , is \nif you are able to show that the vendor had\nknowledge of the defect (hidden), but didn\'t \ninform you. In this case, not only does he \nhave to reimburse the product, but all \nexpenses incurred by the sale (metro \ntickets to go to the shop, the fuse \nwhich blew when you plugged it in &c.)\n\n\nThis idea of "hidden defect" applies to\n all products, including programmes. This \nwas made abundantly clear by the \nauthorities (and the courts) surrounding \nY2K. \n\nThis is particularly inconvenient for \nfree programmes, since a site which \noffers a Linux distro for download is \nsupposed to provide a guarantee against \nhidden flaws.\n\n\nLinuxFrench asked Cyril ROJINSKY if \nin the case of a free programme, \none could speak about a "hidden" defect \nsince the source code was available, \nhe replied "Actually, concerning the \nguarantee, the question of obvious \ndefect will arise. This analyis will \nbe different depending on whether the \nperson who downloads the distribution \nis an IT professional or not". \n\nOpenSource has this advantage over \nthe proprietary programme: it protects \nthe distributor against a guarantee of\nhidden defect insofar as the buy is an \nIT person. But, for distribution to the \npublic at large, the problem remains \nthe same.\n\n\n\nRoughly Speaking.\n\n\nLawyer Cyril ROJINSKY said it himself, \nthis study is far from being exhaustive \nand many other areas could be explored. \n\nDuring this interview, we asked ourselves, \nfor example, about the fragility of the \nGPL clause which forbids linking source \ncode under the GPL with proprietary code. \n\nIn effect, the laws of intellectual \nproperty give the right to the user \nto modify a programme with the\nintention of permitting interoperability \nwith another programme. If for that,\nI need to link with a proprietary library \n(communication protocol, device driver)\nI may consider as "null and void" this \nclause of the GPL.\n\n\nT'] | 00271.b67b5b37ce874d5ccea3391922f14506 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] Modem question \nQuoting Breathnach, Proinnsias (Dublin) ([email protected]):\n\n> Is there any reliable way to calculate your connection speed if you don\'t\n> trust what the modem reports?\n\nDo a wget of a file of known length, in a script that runs "date" before\nand after (or equivalent).\n\nBe aware that speed between you and your upstream link is one thing;\nspeed through countless congested routers to a faraway location may be\nquite another. Remember that hardware-level compression is a factor.\n(The file you wget will probably be precompressed.)\n\nIn the area of the slightly more exotic, be aware that different traffic\nmay have higher priority and thus more available bandwidth at various\npoints in the transit to/from you -- and that some traffic may go via \ndifferent paths coming vs. going.\n\nBe aware that raw bulk transfer speed may not be the only thing that\nmatters: Depending on what you\'re doing, the modem\'s connection latency\nmight matter, and this differs widely between modems. (It matters more\nfor interactive sessions, e.g., ssh remote logins, where each keystroke\nis echoed from remote.)\n\n-- \nCheers, "Send a policeman, and have it arrested."\nRick Moen -- Otto von Bismarck, when asked what he \[email protected] would do if the British Army landed.\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n'] | 00272.c319ce83bd9b379fda60a7991da1b9d5 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] mini-itx \nOn Tue, 8 Oct 2002, John Moylan wrote:\n> Hmm, speaking of cheap machines etc, has anyone tried this sort of\n> thing: http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/humidor64/ ? or more importantly\n> has anyone had any positive/negative experiences with the Via mini-itx\n> boards/via c3 processors.\n\nMy laptop has a Via C3 processor. I use Debian with a self-compiled\n2.4.19 kernel, and have had absolutely no problems with the chip at all\n(quite the opposite, in fact).\n\nI had to compile for "686" in order for 3D acceleration to work (the\nkernel has an option specifically for the Via C3), but I assume that was\na kernel problem rather than a hardware problem.\n\nTrevor Johnston\n\n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n'] | 00273.b57629503558401c3945450dc5dfc5eb |
0 | ['Subject: Re: [ILUG] Interesting article on free software licences \nQuoting Paul Linehan ([email protected]):\n\n> The point here is that (under French law) the author can change the\n> terms of the licence arbitarily. This is because any granting of\n> rights by an author must be clearly delimited in terms of how long,\n> where, to whom, dates and times.\n\nThe GPL and similar licences are explicitly permanent grants of rights\nattached to an instance of his work. (The other stuff mentioned\nconcerns contract law, e.g., the required element of privity, etc.)\n\n> In the absence of such limitations, the original author has the right\n> to change his software back to closed on a whim.\n\nNo, the author has the right to issue _additional_ instances under a\ndifferent licence, such as a proprietary ("closed" [sic]) licence. \n\n> Rick Moen makes the point that it is not a sale but rather a granting\n> of rights which are not default. \n> \n> See the bit about even the granting of rights by an author having to\n> be explicitly specified - under French law.\n\nThe analysis, here and elsewhere, concerns contract law. This isn\'t\ncontract law.\n\nThis isn\'t the first time copyright attorneys have stumbled on this\nsubject. I\'m sure it won\'t be the last.\n\n-- \nCheers, "The front line of defense against such sophisticated \nRick Moen viruses is a continually evolving computer operating \[email protected] system that attracts the efforts of eager software\n developers." -- Bill Gates \n-- \nIrish Linux Users\' Group: [email protected]\nhttp://www.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/ilug for (un)subscription information.\nList maintainer: [email protected]\n\n\n'] | 00274.ecbd86ce57edcb6a419a92479216e43c |
0 | ['Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and his own freetype \nMatthias Haase wrote:\n> The bytecode-interpreter *is* disabled on RH8, defined at line 3 in\n> the Specfile of the SRPM.\n\nRight you are. The SRPM includes a patch to enable it, but then the\nspecfile defaults to not applying that patch. I saw the former but\nmissed the later. Egad, what a convoluted maze.\n\nSorry for the misinformation!\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00275.4602fde18bf961c7bdff1a65e4e0fcbe |
0 | ["Subject: KVim 6.1.141 \nAny one out their have any RPMs for the new KVim that was just released \nthat'd be suitable for RH7.3?\n\nThe website ( http://freehackers.org/kvim/screenshots.html ) mentions some \nexperimental RPMs for Suse/COnnectiva/Slackware but none for Mandrake...\n\n -- \\m/ --\n ...in 29 days - The Odyssey begins...\n www.symphonyx.com\n\n [email protected] - ICQ: 1934853 JID: [email protected]\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"] | 00276.5068c9f11be01b50bd179e900cee257e |
0 | ["Subject: Re: mplayer not working for me \nLaurent Papier wrote:\n\n>On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:24:06 +0200\n>Matthias Saou <[email protected]> wrote:\n>\n> \n>\n>>Once upon a time, Roi wrote :\n>>\n>> \n>>\n>>>mplayer works with dga (if i am root) and works with x11\n>>>and always worked with sdl (but not now with redhat 8)\n>>>now it gives black screen window and play the music of the movie.\n>>> \n>>>\n>>Strange, because as I said in an earlier post, it works for me. Maybe\n>>you're missing the SDL_image or something? :-/\n>> \n>>\n>\n>It also works nicely for me.\n>\n>Laurent\n> \n>\n\n[roi@roi roi]$ rpm -qa | grep -i sdl\nSDL_image-devel-1.2.2-3\nxmame-SDL-0.60.1-fr2\nSDL_mixer-1.2.4-5\nSDL-1.2.4-5\nSDL-devel-1.2.4-5\nSDL_mixer-devel-1.2.4-5\nSDL_net-1.2.4-3\nSDL_net-devel-1.2.4-3\nSDL_image-1.2.2-3\n\nSeems I got all packages I need.\nIt worked on redhat 7.3 I did upgrade not reinstall so packages\nshouldn't make a problem.\n\nRoi\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"] | 00277.0b91824bfb092e74957ecff204754944 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: Zoot apt/openssh & new DVD playing doc \nOn Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 04:36:13PM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> Two new things today :\n> \n> 1) I\'ve had to install a Red Hat Linux 6.2 server because of an old\n> proprietary IVR software that doesn\'t work on newer releases :-( So\n> I\'ve recompiled both the latest apt and openssh packages for it, and\n> they are now available with a complete "os, updates & freshrpms" apt\n> repository at apt.freshrpms.net, for those who might be interested.\n\nOh, neat.\n\nI have similiar thing in my hands, though it might be migratable if I\nhad the time to try. I\'ve been using another 6.x repository though.\nhttp://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/apt\n\nAnyone tried (dist-)upgrade from 6.x to 7? Theoretically it should drop\nin some -compat\'s (notably libc) and upgrade the rest and after a reboot\nand maybe a new kernel (and grub, but I have long before put those to\nv6\'s :) run just fine. Haven\'t had a spare machine to try it on myself,\nthough.\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00278.143effa95043688280ced372741d3862 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and his own freetype \nMatthias Haase wrote:\n> The recompile of the SPRM failed for me with:\n> #----\n> RPM build errors:\n> File not found by glob:\n> /var/tmp/freetype-2.1.2-root/usr/lib/libttf.so.*\n> File not found: /var/tmp/freetype-2.1.2-root/usr/lib/libttf.so\n\nWeird. I had no problems at all rebuilding from the SRPM with specfile\nmodified to enable the bytecode interpreter. The "check-files" test\nwarns that "/usr/share/aclocal/freetype2.m4" was not included in any\npackage, but other then that, it\'s all perfectly clean.\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00279.db581b9c25766016fa42b54f426e1838 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: Nessus? \nOn Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:05:21PM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> I've put up a new Red Hat Linux 8.0 build of nessus here :\n> http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/testing/nessus/\n> \n> It's 100% untested, although the build should be ok. The new menu was\n> added, but some configuration files may be better with new or different\n> defaults.\n> \n> Feedback is very welcome!\n\nIt works very nice, would you consider upgrading it to 1.2.6 released only a\nfew hours after your build?\n\nThanks!\n\nOn Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 01:49:11PM +0200, Renaud Deraison wrote:\n> I'm pleased to announce the availability of Nessus 1.2.6, which should\n> be one of the last versions of Nessus 1.2.x (hopefully), as I will soon\n> open a new unstable tree and start to break things again :)\n> \n> What is new in Nessus 1.2.6, in comparison to 1.2.5 :\n> \n> * changes by Michael Slifcak (Michael.Slifcak at guardent.com)\n> + Added Bugtraq cross reference in the plugins\n> + Added support for BID in nessusd (this has yet to be done on\n> the client side)\n> \n> * changes by Axel Nennker (Axel.Nennker at t-systems.com)\n> + fixed the xml and html outputs\n> + fixed array issues in a couple of plugins\n> \n> * changes by Michel Arboi (arboi at bigfoot.com)\n> + find_service now detects services protected by TCP wrappers\n> or ACL\n> + find_service detects gnuserv\n> + ptyexecvp() replaced by nessus_popen() (*)\n> \n> * changes by Renaud Deraison (deraison at cvs.nessus.org)\n> + Fixed a bug which may make nasl interpret backquoted strings\n> (\\n and \\r) received from the network (problem noted by Pavel\n> Kankovsky)\n> + nmap_wrapper.nes calls _exit() instead of exit() (*)\n> + Solved the lack of bpf's on Free/Open/NetBSD and MacOSX by\n> sharing _one_ among all the Nessus processes. As a result,\n> Nessus's ping is much more effective on these platforms\n> + bugfix in plug_set_key() which would eventually make some\n> scripts take too long when writing in the KB\n> + Plugins of family ACT_SETTINGS are run *after* plugins of\n> family ACT_SCANNERS\n> + replaced the implementation of md5 which was used when\n> OpenSSL is disabled by the one from RSA (the old one would\n> not work on a big-endian host)\n> + Fixed plugins build issues on MacOS X\n> + The nessus client compiles and links against GTK+-2.0. Of\n> course, it will be horrible and unstable, as the GTK team\n> does not care about backward compatibility\n> \n> (*) These two modifications solve the problems of nmap hanging under FreeBSD\n> \n> \n> \n> Special thanks go to Michael Slifcak, whose work on Nessus during the\n> last months have been truly appreciated even if they have not always\n> been as underlined as they should have been. Michael, thanks again !\n> \n> \n> AVAILABILITY:\n> \n> Nessus 1.2.6 is available at http://www.nessus.org/posix.html\n-- \[email protected]\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"] | 00280.c853f6dc1379a418f0a48e7ec7009744 |
0 | ['Subject: xine cannot play DVDs - "liba52: a52_block error" \nSince libdvdcss-1.2.0, I have been unable to play DVDs using ogle, xine,\nvlc, or mplayer. They all show a scrambled picture with (VERY) choppy\naudio. When I run xine I see tons of these in the console: \n\nliba52: a52_block error\nliba52: a52_block error\nliba52: a52_block error\nliba52: a52_block error\naudio_out: inserting 5859 0-frames to fill a gap of 10989 pts\nmetronom: audio jump\nliba52: a52_block error\n\nHas anyone seen this before and know how to fix it? Or should I file a\nbug report? \n\nThanks for your help. \n\n- Jon\n\n-- \[email protected]\n\nAdministrator, tgpsolutions\nhttp://www.tgpsolutions.com\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00281.a143a6b20ae0f54335a78d477b3d82fe |
0 | ['Subject: Ack, apt-get still failing for me, stumped. [RH8] \n\nI posted about this last week, and I\'m still stumped. apt-get is just\nnot working for me, and I can\'t figure out what the problem is.\n\nI\'ve tried removing the apt rpms, making sure to remove any traces left\nbehind (/etc/apt /var/state/apt /var/cache/apt), and still, I get\n"couldn\'t find package xmms-mp3" when running "apt-get install xmms-mp3".\n\nAny clues? Here\'s a log of a fresh try:\n\nroot@canarsie:/tmp # rpm -e apt apt-devel\nroot@canarsie:/tmp # rm -rf /etc/apt /var/cache/apt /var/state/apt\nroot@canarsie:/tmp # rpm -ivh apt-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.i386.rpm apt-devel-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.i386.rpm\nwarning: apt-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID\ne42d547b\nPreparing... ########################################### [100%]\n 1:apt ########################################### [ 50%]\n 2:apt-devel ########################################### [100%]\nroot@canarsie:/tmp # apt-get update\nIgn http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386 release\nGet:1 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/os pkglist [1276kB]\nGet:2 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/os release [108B]\nGet:3 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/updates pkglist [14B]\nGet:4 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/updates release [113B]\nGet:5 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/freshrpms pkglist\n[57.1kB]\nGet:6 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/freshrpms release\n[125B]\nGet:7 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/os srclist [152kB]\nGet:8 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/updates srclist [14B]\nGet:9 http://apt.freshrpms.net redhat/8.0/en/i386/freshrpms srclist\n[14.4kB]\nFetched 1500kB in 11s (125kB/s)\nReading Package Lists... Done\nroot@canarsie:/tmp # apt-get install xmms-mp3\nReading Package Lists... Done\nBuilding Dependency Tree... Done\nE: Couldn\'t find package xmms-mp3\nroot@canarsie:/tmp # apt-cache search xmms\nroot@canarsie:/tmp #\n\n\nBeats me..\n\n-SteveK\n\n\n\n-- \n Steve Kann - Chief Engineer - 520 8th Ave #2300 NY 10018 - (212) 533-1775\n HorizonLive.com - collaborate . interact . learn\n "The box said \'Requires Windows 95, NT, or better,\' so I installed Linux."\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00282.865809c7b627e9c6f0d5b32b5a80b02c |
0 | ['Subject: Re: RH 8 no DMA for DVD drive \nOn Mon, 2002-10-07 at 13:28, Matthias Saou wrote:\n\n> I\'ve never heard of any CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive having problems with DMA...\n> although there probably is since Red Hat decided to default disabling it a\n> few releases back :-/\n\nHeh. I get to see bad CDROM problems all the time. Mostly when vendors\nbuy crap cables to try to save $0.02/each, but there are chipsets and\ndrives with known DMA issues as well.\n\n> Normally, even if you try to enable DMA and your device doesn\'t support it,\n> it simply don\'t be able to make the change, and that\'s it. The problem IIRC\n> is with crappy hardware that is supposed to support DMA but doesn\'t work as\n> expected when it\'s enabled... maybe Chris could confirm this? ;-)\n\nUsually if you enable DMA on a CDROM that can\'t handle it gracefully you\nwon\'t be able to read data off it relably, and that\'s about it. No\nend_of_the_world problems, and easily fixed.\n\n> I guess I\'ll settle for the /dev/dvd link change as described and putting\n> the DMA tip in the %description :-)\n\nMy biggest beef with automatically setting /dev/dvd is that I always\nseem to have a CD-Burner and a DVD drive (or DVD burner) in the same\nbox, and I usually have the DVD as the second drive /dev/cdrom1 in\n"kudzu-speak". I agree that the %description is the best place for the\ntip. Unless someone can come up with a way to probe CD/DVD drives to\ndivulge their largest supported media size without loading ide-scsi or\nhaving that media currently in the drive.\n\n-- \nChris Kloiber\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00283.3049b55cf228fd4add06e7b701f71878 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: RH 8 no DMA for DVD drive \nOn Tue, 2002-10-08 at 04:48, Panu Matilainen wrote:\n> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Jesse Keating wrote:\n> \n> > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:28:51 +0200\n> > Matthias Saou <[email protected]> wrote:\n> > \n> > # I've never heard of any CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive having problems with\n> > # DMA... although there probably is since Red Hat decided to default\n> > # disabling it a few releases back :-/\n> > \n> > When I worked as a PC repair tech for a Computer store chain, I did\n> > run across quite a few DVD drives that would lock up if DMA was\n> > enabled. It's more of a chipset/drive problem than a Drive by itself.\n> \n> And my IBM Intellistation would lock up instantly .. now this is actually \n> quite funny .. if DMA was enabled for the CD-ROM *and* you tried to access \n> a CD with Joliet extensions. Otherwise it worked just fine with DMA \n> enabled :)\n\nOdd. Did I certify that one? What's the 7-digit IBM model number, and\nwhich version of Red Hat were you running?\n\n-- \nChris Kloiber\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"] | 00284.74169e544362fc645322f98d1de72128 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: Zoot apt/openssh & new DVD playing doc \nOn Tue, 2002-10-08 at 10:36, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> Hi there,\n> \n> Two new things today :\n> \n> 1) I\'ve had to install a Red Hat Linux 6.2 server because of an old\n> proprietary IVR software that doesn\'t work on newer releases :-( So I\'ve\n> recompiled both the latest apt and openssh packages for it, and they are\n> now available with a complete "os, updates & freshrpms" apt repository at\n> apt.freshrpms.net, for those who might be interested.\n\nGack. Did you try 7.3 with the compat-glibc first? Or does it require an\nantique kernel?\n\n-- \nChris Kloiber\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00285.c422b202e0487f766ba13baa7b755bfd |
0 | ['Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and his own freetype \nOn Tue, 08 Oct 2002 13:05:53 -0700\nBen Liblit <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> > RPM build errors:\n> > File not found by glob:\n> > /var/tmp/freetype-2.1.2-root/usr/lib/libttf.so.*\n> > File not found: /var/tmp/freetype-2.1.2-root/usr/lib/libttf.so\n> \n> Weird. I had no problems at all rebuilding from the SRPM with specfile\n> modified to enable the bytecode interpreter. The "check-files" test\n> warns that "/usr/share/aclocal/freetype2.m4" was not included in any\n> package, but other then that, it\'s all perfectly clean.\nHi, Ben,\n\nit seems, the RH freetype package should be repacked,\nsee for this\nhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74415\n\nPlease, can you atach and send your sucessfully rebuild of the RH freetype\nrpm with the bytecode enabled to me?\n\n-- \n Regards from Germany\n Matthias\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00286.74f122eeb4cd901867d74f5676c85809 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and his own freetype \nI wrote:\n> [The bytecode interpreter] may improve non-antialiased rendering, but\n> only at the expense of making a mess of antialiased rendering.\n\nThen again, perhaps the particular font I\'m using just has bad\nbytecodes. That font is "QuickType II", grabbed off my Windows\npartition, where it was installed by I-have-no-idea-which-application.\n\nAnybody else experimenting with bytecode-enabled freetype, presumably\nwith different fonts? Do you find the same bad antialiased rendering\nthat I found, or do other fonts work well?\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00287.175dfcaba6a69ffe40222e3937308e2f |
0 | ['Subject: Re: Zoot apt/openssh & new DVD playing doc \nOnce upon a time, Chris wrote :\n\n> On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 10:36, Matthias Saou wrote:\n> > Hi there,\n> > \n> > Two new things today :\n> > \n> > 1) I\'ve had to install a Red Hat Linux 6.2 server because of an old\n> > proprietary IVR software that doesn\'t work on newer releases :-( So\n> > I\'ve recompiled both the latest apt and openssh packages for it, and\n> > they are now available with a complete "os, updates & freshrpms" apt\n> > repository at apt.freshrpms.net, for those who might be interested.\n> \n> Gack. Did you try 7.3 with the compat-glibc first? Or does it require an\n> antique kernel?\n\nIt requires a 2.2 kernel, plus antique just-about-everything :-/ Real crap!\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.00 0.03 0.00\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00288.3bf1e169fdf5504b8fa28e9998da147a |
0 | ["Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and his own freetype \nOn Tue, 08 Oct 2002 23:15:07 -0700\nBen Liblit <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> Ick. Perhaps this is why Red Hat turned the bytecode interpreter off. \n> It may improve non-antialiased rendering, but only at the expense of \n> making a mess of antialiased rendering.\n> \n> This may come down to a matter of personal aesthetics, but for my part, \n> I'm going back to Red Hat's standard packages with the bytecode \n> interpreter turned *off*.\nYes, confirmed, but for my part, I'm using mostly non-antialiased fonts\nand \nthey are true ugly without the bytecode interpreter enabled.\n\nRemember my stupid request about your RPM ;-)\n\n\n--\n Regards from Germany\n Matthias\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"] | 00289.759738dc8d12e85d6e26b866faa94337 |
0 | ["Subject: Re: Apt repository authentication: it's time \nHi.\n\nBrian Fahrlander <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> What's it take to ensure we're covered against this kind of\n> childish/moronic/Microsoft-era problems?\n\nWell, I am checking the packet signatures while building the apt-tree.\nNot very pretty, not very fast, but it works.\n\nNonetheless:\ndid anyone ever play with this:\nhttp://distro.conectiva.com.br/pipermail/apt-rpm/2002-August/000653.html\n\n-- \nR!\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n"] | 00290.98400fc8bb102f11e201c037a613cf85 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: Apt repository authentication: it\'s time \nOnce upon a time, Brian wrote :\n\n> OK, it\'s now time to work out the PGP securing of apt repository\n> traffic. I\'ve never gotten anything but "sitename.whatever will not\n> be authenticated" until running Redhat 8.0 when I get something\n> about having "No Key" for various files.\n\nI don\'t think gpg signing my repositories will help anything, as it will\njust ensure that my passphrase was typed to confirm the md5 signatures of\nall pgklists and srclists. Basically, you\'ll then just be sure that it\'s me\nwho generated the files, and this will of course prevent automating the\nprocess of updating the apt repository when Red Hat updates show up.\n\nIn Red Hat Linux 8.0 though, the warnings about "No Key" appear until you\nimport the right gpg public keys directly with rpm, for example :\nrpm --import /usr/share/doc/apt-0.5.4cnc7/RPM-GPG-KEY\n(this will import my key, which is used to sign all freshrpms.net packages)\n\nHopefully it is possible to the tell rpm to install *only* packages who\nverify against an imported gpg key? This for me would be the optimal way to\nensure integrity with the way things curently work.\n\nMatthias\n\n-- \nClean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/\nRed Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) running Linux kernel 2.4.18-10acpi\nLoad : 0.14 0.18 0.17\n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00291.69656be850c89e739f4ae1db5b43d90f |
0 | ['Subject: Re: Apt repository authentication: it\'s time \nOn Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:03:11 +0200, Matthias Saou <[email protected]> wrote:\n\n> I don\'t think gpg signing my repositories will help anything, as it will\n> just ensure that my passphrase was typed to confirm the md5 signatures of\n> all pgklists and srclists. Basically, you\'ll then just be sure that it\'s me\n> who generated the files, and this will of course prevent automating the\n> process of updating the apt repository when Red Hat updates show up.\n\n Isn\'t there a packager-key that\'s concealed inside the rpm? Things have changed a bit since I used to work with\'em, but I thought there was some internal number that must be compared to be correct (or, presumably, return an error.)\n \n> In Red Hat Linux 8.0 though, the warnings about "No Key" appear until you\n> import the right gpg public keys directly with rpm, for example :\n> rpm --import /usr/share/doc/apt-0.5.4cnc7/RPM-GPG-KEY\n> (this will import my key, which is used to sign all freshrpms.net packages)\n\n Hey, cool; wether it protects me or not, I feel better about it.\n \n> Hopefully it is possible to the tell rpm to install *only* packages who\n> verify against an imported gpg key? This for me would be the optimal way to\n> ensure integrity with the way things curently work.\n\n Yeah, surely there\'s a flag for that; there is, for everything else, aye? :)\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBrian Fahrländer Linux Zealot, Conservative, and Technomad\nEvansville, IN My Voyage: http://www.CounterMoon.com\nICQ 5119262\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\nangegangen, Schlange-Hüften, sein es ganz rüber jetzt. Bügel innen fest,\nweil es eine lange, süsse Fahrt ist. \n\n_______________________________________________\nRPM-List mailing list <[email protected]>\nhttp://lists.freshrpms.net/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list\n\n\n'] | 00292.d70b6d753352d01060579b1c34df4e4d |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Plumstead Panther - Pictures! \nLooks and sounds a hell of a lot like Clare\'s cat, Violence...\n\nA tall tail or is it a prowling panther?\n\n\nhttp://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/weird/display.var.633939.Bizarre+London.0.html\n\n\nSecurity cameras at the Gardiner house filmed the cat\nThe Plumstead panther has been spotted just yards from the scene of a \nsighting made three weeks ago but this time it was caught on camera.\n\nSteve Gardiner, 41, claims to have spotted the large cat in his garden in \nUpton Road, Plumstead, in the sixth reported sighting in Woolwich and Bexley \nin just four weeks.\n\nMr Gardiner told News Shopper he watched the big cat as it walked alongside \nthe house at about 7.15am, on Wednesday, September 25, while his security \ncameras captured it on film.\n\nThe father-of-four described the black cat as about 3ft long and \ntwo-and-a-half-foot high, with a large body.\n\nHe said: "It prowled past the patio doors moving with all the mannerisms of \na hunter.\n\n"It looked at me calmly before moving on."\n\nThe bricklayer told how his work colleagues let him know News Shopper had \nbeen following the big cat story so he decided to call our offices with news \nof the sighting.\n\nHis wife, Karen, 41, later checked the tape which had captured grainy images \nof the large cat prowling through their garden.\n\nShe said: "I feel sorry for it not living in its natural habitat I\'d hate \nfor it to get hurt."\n\nMr Gardiner told how he is convinced of the cat\'s existence saying how their \nusually quiet 18-year-old dog barks at "nothing" in the garden but barked \nthat morning.\n\nHe warned: "I don\'t think these cats are dangerous but, if cornered, they \nmight jump you."\n\nSightings of the large black cat are being reported all over the Plumstead \nCommon and Shooters Hill as well at the Bexley area.\n\nIf you have seen the big cat, call News Shopper on 01689 885712.\n\n12:27 Tuesday 8th October 2002\n\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nSend and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nSell a Home for Top $\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00293.d74734bf5cf13ea138e4ee4df7555008 |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] A Billy for the septics \nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2310209.stm\n\nTuesday, 8 October, 2002, 13:53 GMT 14:53 UK\nQuiz: Know your Cockney Rhyming Slang?\n\nCockney Rhyming Slang is alive and well with new terms being invented all\nthe time, according to the new Oxford Dictionary of Rhyming Slang being\npublished this week.\nBut do you know a Raquel Welch (belch) from a Billie Piper (windscreen\nwiper)?\n...\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00294.73bcb5b3dfaccc628419d7ecfe69ff1b |
0 | ['Subject: [zzzzteana] Punch bags filled with incontinence pads \n\n\nhttp://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/weird/display.var.633932.Bizarre+London.0.html\n\nAn investigation has been launched after punch bags on sale in Greenwich \nwere found to be stuffed with incontinence pads and bandages.\n\nTrading standards officers, working for Greenwich Council, were alerted to \nthe situation after a Bryan punch bag, purchased in Argos, in Charlton Road, \nCharlton, was found to be full of bandages.\n\nAlso stuffed inside the piece of sporting equipment was a letter from a \nwoman in Fife stating how she felt quite disgusted\' about the bag and asking \nfor the filling to be tested.\n\nThe unfortunate shopper had bought his first bag, at Argos, in Lewisham High \nStreet, but had returned it because on investigation of a leak he was \nhorrified to discover it was filled with incontinence pads.\n\nSo far, officers have purchased two of the punch bags, only to find they \ncontain incontinence pads and strips of shredded duvet.\n\nCabinet member for public services Councillor Angela Cornforth said: "This \nis one of the strangest stories I have every heard.\n\n"Our officers are in the process of investigating and will no doubt discover \nwhy the bags contain such unusual contents."\n\n12:18 Tuesday 8th October 2002\n\n\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nChat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com\n\n\n------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->\nPlan to Sell a Home?\nhttp://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/7gSolB/TM\n---------------------------------------------------------------------~->\n\nTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:\[email protected]\n\n \n\nYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ \n\n\n\n'] | 00295.00390d9365839897c097b0db0d0a567b |
0 | ['Subject: Re: The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates.. \nOn Sat, 24 Aug 2002, Adam L. Beberg wrote:\n\n--]And yet STILL noone is out there creating _public domain_ content. Is there\n--]even one person out there can can even begin to talk without being a\n--]complete hypocrite? And no the "open source" people cant talk either, the\n--]GPL aint even close. I know I cant talk.\n\n\nAll my music is in the Public Domain.\n\n\nThere are others.\n\n\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n'] | 00296.fd066cc4153d4d6e65dc8f06165e3f78 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: The GOv gets tough on Net Users.....er Pirates.. \n> If the creator didnt say you could have it without paying, it\'s theft, so\n> simple, hell that\'s even in all the major holy books.\n\nWow, I\'ve got a great idea! I\'ll hire a skywriter to write "you can\'t\nlook at this without paying," then lock up everybody who looked at it and\ndidn\'t pay! It can\'t fail -- Jesus is on my side!\n\n\n\n\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n'] | 00297.be029fdbe088fc14a8124640f0bb053e |
0 | ['Subject: Re: The case for spam \nLucas Gonze:\n>Senders should vary the recipient list to include non-targets, like party \n>officials, and to exclude targets enough to give them plausible \n>deniability.\n\nWhich means the sender has a list of who the true\ntargets are, and who the fake targets are, and\nscripts for mixing these. On the receiving side,\nmy email client distinguishes between messages\nthat are read, and messages that are not. I like\nto mark or save messages that are particularly\ninterresting or important to me. And even if I\nmake a point to delete "suspicious material"\nimmediately upon reading it, even THAT might\nleave an interesting kind of trace on my machine.\n\nSorry, but I don\'t buy the argument that spam\nprotects people who want to distribute or see\nmaterial the government disapproves.\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nMSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: \nhttp://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx\n\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n'] | 00298.8b7d79e9cff4860a08188dd3d0c4ceb9 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: The case for spam \nRussell Turpin wrote:\n> On the receiving side,\n> my email client distinguishes between messages\n> that are read, and messages that are not. I like\n> to mark or save messages that are particularly\n> interresting or important to me. And even if I\n> make a point to delete "suspicious material"\n> immediately upon reading it, even THAT might\n> leave an interesting kind of trace on my machine.\n\nYou choose to have your email client do that. You don\'t have to. Short\nof Palladium, you can do whatever you want with bytes you hold, including\nreading messages and erasing the traces. I\'ll buy a chocolate sundae for\nanyone who can show otherwise.\n\nAn attacker might be able to verify that you *have* read a message (e.g. \nby seeing that you saved and edited a copy) but not that you *haven\'t*. \nIf your email client was compromised you could put a packet sniffer on the\nline before downloading mail. If an attacker installed a packet sniffer\nsniffer, you could run it in a spoofing VM.\n\nThe only exception to the rule that your machine belongs to you is --\nmaybe -- Palladium.\n\n- Lucas\n\n\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n'] | 00299.7e89319a2d14ca28a61ad12fcb49eff8 |
0 | ['Subject: Re: "Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch...."(was Re: My brain hurts) \n\n--- begin forwarded text\n\n\nDate: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 11:39:34 -0400\nTo: "R. A. Hettinga" <[email protected]>\nFrom: Somebody\nSubject: Re: "Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch...."(was Re: My brain hurts)\n\nAnd then there was the one from Prairie Home Companion:\n\nQ. Why is a viola larger than a violin?\nA. It just looks that way because a violin player\'s head is bigger.\n\n\n>--- begin forwarded text\n>\n>\n>Status: RO\n>Delivered-To: [email protected]\n>From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" <[email protected]>\n>Organization: Rose Garden Funeral of Sores\n>User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0 [-1214711651]\n>To: Flatware or Road Kill? <[email protected]>\n>Subject: Re: "Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch...."(was Re: My brain hurts)\n>Sender: [email protected]\n>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:17:40 -0700\n>\n>There are so many good musician jokes.\n>\n>A couple of my favorites:\n>\n>Q. What\'s the difference between a viola and a violin?\n>A. A viola burns longer.\n>\n>Q. What\'s the definition of a minor second?\n>A. Two oboes playing in unison.\n>\n>- Joe\n>\n>\n>http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n>\n>--- end forwarded text\n>\n>\n>--\n>-----------------\n>R. A. Hettinga <mailto: [email protected]>\n>The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>\n>44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA\n>"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,\n>[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to\n>experience." -- Edward Gibbon, \'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire\'\n\n\n-- \n\n--- end forwarded text\n\n\n-- \nR. A. Hettinga <mailto: [email protected]>\nThe Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>\n44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA\n"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."\n--George Carlin\nhttp://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork\n\n'] | 00300.e98a210bc3981e1d64524ed9984be049 |