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<p>We all love <a href="http://academia.stackexchange.com">Academia Stack Exchange</a>, but there is a whole world of people out there who need answers to their questions and don't even know that this site exists. When they arrive from Google, what will their first impression be? Let's try to look at this site through the eyes of someone who's never seen it before, and see how we stack up against the rest of the 'Net.</p> <p>The <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/site-eval">Site Self-Evaluation review queue</a> is open and populated with 10 questions that were asked and answered in the last quarter. Run a few Google searches to see how easy they are to find and compare the answers we have with the information available on other sites.</p> <p>Rating the questions is only a part of the puzzle, though. Do you see a pattern of questions that should have been closed but are not? Questions or answers that could use an edit? Anything that's going really well? <strong>Post an answer below to share your thoughts</strong> and discuss these questions and the site's health with your fellow users!</p>
[ { "answer_id": 627, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think we are doing very well, with a very good quantity and quality of contributions from many people from many different backgrounds. Of particular note are the amount and quality of answers provided and the general comfortable and friendly nature of this site.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 628, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think it's time the site came out of beta ! it's a very healthy and thriving community. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 635, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'll also add a fresh plot of <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283/keeping-track-of-our-stats\">Academia traffic</a> (red symbols) as a function of time:</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/BoupF.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>Notice how a 7th order polynomial fit (in blue) to the recent data highlights that the site is literally taking off.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 636, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": true, "text": "<h1>Final Results</h1>\n<ul>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11388/what-does-a-plus-sign-mean-in-journal-abbreviations\">What does a plus sign mean in journal abbreviations?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 8</strong> (Excellent: 8, Satisfactory: 6, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11336/how-much-vacation-time-is-typical-during-a-phd-in-the-united-states\">How much vacation time is typical during a PhD in the United States?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 10</strong> (Excellent: 10, Satisfactory: 3, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11607/advisor-dies-suddenly-advice-needed-for-research-students\">Advisor dies suddenly, advice needed for research students</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 10</strong> (Excellent: 10, Satisfactory: 3, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/10999/how-long-is-reasonable-to-wait-for-reply-from-an-editor\">How long is reasonable to wait for reply from an editor?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 3</strong> (Excellent: 5, Satisfactory: 5, Needs Improvement: 2)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11260/how-strict-are-listed-minimum-requirements-for-admission-to-a-graduate-degree-pr\">How strict are listed minimum requirements for admission to a graduate degree program?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 8</strong> (Excellent: 8, Satisfactory: 4, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11323/how-do-phd-admissions-committees-view-double-majors\">How do PhD admissions committees view double majors?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 6</strong> (Excellent: 6, Satisfactory: 6, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11398/starting-a-massive-open-online-course-mooc\">How does one go about starting a Massive Open Online Course (MOOC)?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 0</strong> (Excellent: 5, Satisfactory: 2, Needs Improvement: 5)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11621/repositories-of-funded-research-projects-in-different-countries\">Repositories of funded research projects in different countries?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 1</strong> (Excellent: 3, Satisfactory: 7, Needs Improvement: 2)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11037/are-tuition-subsidies-taxables-for-research-staff\">Are tuition subsidies taxables for research staff?</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 3</strong> (Excellent: 3, Satisfactory: 8, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n</li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11294/mooc-video-integration-into-classroom-schedule\">MOOC / video integration into classroom schedule</a></p>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 4</strong> (Excellent: 4, Satisfactory: 6, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n</li>\n</ul>\n" } ]
2013/09/03
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/626", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
629
<p>The question would have to be very specific and answerable, but would hypothetical (and realistic) questions be permitted?</p> <p>What I mean by this is, would situations that do not necessarily happen to the person asking the question, but could happen (and may have happened) be permitted?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 630, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 5, "selected": true, "text": "<p><strong>I don't see any reason why they should not be permitted, and judged by the same measure as all questions.</strong> If they are a good fit for the site (which probably requires that they be realistic), they add value and should be allowed!</p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p>Moreover, I don't think you can prevent them efficiently. There's no way you can tell, when I ask a question, whether it's really happened to me. Sometimes, I ask what I think are good questions <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/7200/2700\">from my past experiences</a> (in that particular case, I added a PS, but I don't always). Sometimes, I make up questions… (based on real-life circumstances that have happened, or could have happened to others)</p>\n\n<p>For example, if you look at my questions, you may realize that I am:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/13137/2700\">an undergrad student</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/8800/2700\">a post-doc</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/12372/2700\">a research group leader</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/11926/2700\">editor of a journal</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/11854/2700\">a senior researcher who chairs session in prestigious conferences</a></li>\n<li>and my name is <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/12235/2700\">John Smith</a></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>I can tell you (in confidence): not all of these are true!</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 634, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p><strong>No, they are really not a good fit to the site at all.</strong></p>\n\n<p>The reason is, that however good your imagination is, there may be crucial details that would relate to a real-life situation, that you just haven't anticipated.</p>\n\n<p>That makes the answers much less useful to anyone with a real-world problem that looks broadly like what you made up.</p>\n\n<p>The Help Cente explicitly states that you must <strong>Try to extract the fundamental question from the specific problem at hand.</strong></p>\n\n<p>If you don't have that specific problem, don't ask about it. Fake questions are as bad as fake answers, and the site is better off without them.</p>\n\n<p>The <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/about\">tour</a>, that all new users of the site are directed to, is very explicit about this, and it's a principle that applies across all Stack Exchange sites:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Focus on questions about an <strong>actual problem</strong> you have faced. Include details about what you have tried and exactly what you are trying to do.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>(emphasis as in the original)</p>\n" } ]
2013/09/05
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/629", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
631
<p>I rejected an edit suggestion to that post: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/12489/49">https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/12489/49</a>. </p> <p>However, just after my click I realized that I should keep some parts of the edit, as they improve the answer (my quick reject was based on edit on a quoted material).</p> <ol> <li><p>Does comment justifying the rejection reaches the editor? (If it does not, it would discourage an eager editor...)</p></li> <li><p>Is it possible to lookup the history of rejected edits (for a particular post, or globally)?</p></li> </ol>
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2013/09/05
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/631", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49/" ]
640
<p>Say, a question that is not a perfect fit for the site was posted - mostly some consider it to have some merit, some do not.</p> <p>What if said question generates some very useful answers (not just upvoted, but generate comments that indicate the usefulness). Will the question (hence, useful answers) still be deleted eventually (if not improved)?</p>
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2013/09/13
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/640", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
645
<p>We have some <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags/synonyms">tag synonym suggestions</a> that have not been voted on, despite being quite old. I'd like to suggest people visit the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags/synonyms">tag synonym page</a> and vote on existing suggestions:</p> <p>    <img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/Lu0qk.png" alt="enter image description here"></p> <p>Click on the links of the left column (freehand circle!) to go to the voting page.</p> <hr> <p>This should help people submit more tag synonyms in turn, which will improve our tagging system and the overall experience on the site (especially searching by tags)!</p>
[ { "answer_id": 646, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To use this question as a discussion on the proposed synonyms, the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/writing\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;writing&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">writing</a> --> <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/scientific-writing\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;scientific-writing&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">scientific-writing</a> one doesn't seem like a good idea to me, as not all academic writing is scientific writing; from my understanding of the term \"sciences\", there are many academic fields outside of the sciences. Not sure if that's how the tag is used, but from simply a semantic standpoint I'm not a huge fan of this.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 650, "author": "Peter Jansson", "author_id": 4394, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/4394", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To follow up on eykanal's post with another suggested synonym. There is a suggestion to equate <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/bibliometrics\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;bibliometrics&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">bibliometrics</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/h-index\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;h-index&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">h-index</a>. This is a bit like equating chemistry with oxygen. Bibliometrics is a research field and the h-index is just one parameter used in bibliometrics. We then would need to equate also citation index and impact factor with bibliometrics. Hence, I don't think this synonym is very constructive.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 678, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>It appears to me that <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/references\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;references&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">references</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;reference-request&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">reference-request</a> have a split personality. In my opinion the questions should either be <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/recommendation-letter\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;recommendation-letter&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">recommendation-letter</a> or <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/citations\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;citations&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">citations</a>. Should we systematically re-tag the questions and then make <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/references\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;references&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">references</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;reference-request&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">reference-request</a> be synonyms for <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/citations\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;citations&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">citations</a> or <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/recommendation-letter\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;recommendation-letter&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">recommendation-letter</a>, and if so, which one?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 859, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I made a proposal for <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd-committee\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;phd-committee&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">phd-committee</a> to be a synonym of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/advisor\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;advisor&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">advisor</a> back when there were a few questions tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd-committee\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;phd-committee&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">phd-committee</a>. They have all been retagged, but the synonym has not been created. Do we want the synonym?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 860, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I made a proposal for <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/mba\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;mba&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">mba</a> to be a synonym of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/masters\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;masters&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">masters</a> back when there were a few questions tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/mba\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;mba&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">mba</a>. They have all been retagged, but the synonym has not been created. Do we want the synonym?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 861, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I made a proposal for <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ms\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;ms&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">ms</a> to be a synonym of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/masters\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;masters&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">masters</a> back when there were a few questions tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ms\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;ms&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">ms</a>. They have all been retagged, but the synonym has not been created. Do we want the synonym?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 862, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I made a proposal for <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd-thesis\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;phd-thesis&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">phd-thesis</a> to be a synonym of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/thesis\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;thesis&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">thesis</a> back when there were a few questions tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd-thesis\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;phd-thesis&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">phd-thesis</a>. They have all been retagged, but the synonym has not been created. Do we want the synonym?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 864, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/references\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;references&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">references</a> -> <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/citations\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;citations&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">citations</a></p>\n\n<p>(Or the other way. I don't have a strong feeling which name is better. Just <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/citations\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;citations&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">citations</a> is more popular.)</p>\n" } ]
2013/09/16
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/645", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700/" ]
647
<p>I voted to close <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/12854/in-c-programing-a-single-variable-cannot-take-a-character-to-it-continuously">this question on programming</a>, and wanted to vote to send it to StackOverflow, but noticed that I couldn't choose to do that:</p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/Bj7YC.png" alt="enter image description here"></p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/MCaNr.png" alt="Second Close window"></p> <p>Notice that I cannot click "Vote to Close" on the second screen unless I select the meta site, which is not the appropriate site for this question. Is there a way to add either a list of .SE sites, or be able to type in a site, or at least leave it blank so it can reflect that it should be on another site?</p>
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2013/09/20
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/647", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/4461/" ]
652
<p>Some Stack Exchange sites, while enforcing regular policies/limits, allow for a little fun now and then, either by letting some “fun” soft big-list questions exist, or by prompting them on specific occasions (I think the site on Judaism has regular fun/soft session near Pessach, but I cannot find a specific reference for that). As <a href="http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/01/stack-overflow-where-we-hate-fun/">this SE blog post explains</a>, it's OK to have some fun, we just don't want the site to be overrun with “fun questions”.</p> <p>What should our policy be? Do we allow fun questions? Do we need specific occasions for that? Or if we accept them unconditionally, do we have some sort of tacit agreement to keep their number (active fun Q’s at the same time, I mean) reasonable? Do we want them to be community-wiki, as some sites do, so as not to game too much the reputation system? (or do we simply not care?)</p> <p>Example of “fun” questions I could see, and which I would personally enjoy, would be something like (or subsets thereof):</p> <ul> <li>what's your favorite research abstract? paper title? TOC graphics? conference title</li> <li>what is the most bizarre/extravagant/longest position title you've ever encountered?</li> <li>what's the most ridiculously harsh review you've ever received?</li> <li>etc.</li> </ul>
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That would be regular at enough, yet one question a week (at most) is not going to be too much.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 654, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I quite agree with the blog post you mention, especially with the 3rd bullet: </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Does this question teach me anything that could make me better at my job? Can I learn something from it?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>In other words, it can be fun, as long as it is somehow useful. In this case, I think your first and third examples (what's your favorite research abstract? paper title? TOC graphics? conference title / what's the most ridiculously harsh review you've ever received?) are good ones, while I'm not entirely sure about the second one (what is the most bizarre/extravagant/longest position title you've ever encountered?). </p>\n\n<p>The crucial point remains to decide when to allow for such questions. I'm not sure a fixed date would be good (e.g., the 1st of April), because we could have an overflow of fun questions on one day. Perhaps we could do something like around the anniversary of joining the site? Or every 100 days? It would also \"reward\" users who stick around. </p>\n\n<p>Finally, I think putting them as community wiki is definitely a good idea, to avoid gaming the system. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 655, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I disagree. One thing that I like about AC.SE is that it is not \"fun\". There are already a to of academic forums where fun questions can be discussed. Our questions are already on the soft side and I think blurring the lines further would be bad.</p>\n\n<p>What about a monthly fun chat room? It wouldn't be as archival, but I think that is not only okay, but maybe better. I like the concept of a fun chat better for a number of reasons. I think one of the hopes of doing \"fun\" things is to attract new people. With questions we are attracting new people in a deceptive manner since fun questions are an exception. I also like the idea of a chat room since I think the questions will benefit from more discussion which the QA style isn't great for. It also might get people to use chat more which would be good for us. Finally, once we allow/encourage fun questions, going back will be hard. If fun on chat flops, we can then rediscuss the issue and then potentially try questions on the main board.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 656, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>There are two questions here, that are really important to separate out:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li><p>Do we want to have fun?</p></li>\n<li><p>Do we want this to be the sort of site where people feel free to add frivolous material?</p></li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>The first question is one of those meaningless questions like \"do you want some free money?\" It implies that we can get something good, without any negative consequences.</p>\n\n<p>That is an illusion.</p>\n\n<p>The second question is what this is really about. Stack Exchange sites have a successful identity, and a prosperous niche in the web ecosystem, precisely <strong>because</strong> there is so much level-headed professionalism about the questions and answers.</p>\n\n<p>There are lots of places for fun. All of the fun questions suggested in the question above can be asked and answered on chat, to your heart's content. Or at a thousand other places on the web.</p>\n\n<p>Academia Stack Exchange has a unique place, for its level-headed professionalism. If we start allowing questions that are outside the scope of the current guidelines, because they're frivolous, bad-subjective, and/or lack a definitive right answer, we will devalue all the content.</p>\n\n<p>Not everything in life has to be frivolous, fluffy and fun. Some things are just better when they are sober and useful.</p>\n\n<p>So let's keep academia.SE as the sober and useful place.</p>\n\n<p>For the other stuff, get a kitten.</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/g2wrq.jpg\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 662, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'm not against this, so long as:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>There's some semblance of structure to the fun, and </li>\n<li>It's constrained to a certain time period.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>My recommendation would be to hold such an event near the semester demarcations, when there's an air of \"time to relax for a bit\" in the air already. Personally, I would aim for two or three times a year <em>maximum</em>, with those times being end of April/early May (end of semester) and late August/early September (beginning of year), with the optional third being near beginning of January.</p>\n\n<p>For those periods, I would use the tag \"Aca-dumb-ic\" (I just made that up) and allow anything in that tag, so long as it relates to academia in some tangential way. If it gets too out of hand we could add more restrictions to ensure the site still looks like a professional Q/A site with a fun undertone, rather than the opposite.</p>\n" } ]
2013/09/25
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/652", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700/" ]
657
<p>User <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/users/406/all">All</a> has been asking a lot of questions. I am starting to get the feeling that they fall under the </p> <blockquote> <p>you are asking an open-ended, hypothetical question: “What if ______ happened?”</p> </blockquote> <p>part of <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask">don't ask</a>. In particular I am thinking about this question</p> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/13029/who-should-recommend-applicants-for-administrative-positions">Who should recommend applicants for administrative positions?</a></p> <p>While I think the topics in general are okay, the questions just seem to be a little bit off. I think the question would be a lot better quality if the person who asked it was actually applying to be a Dean.</p> <p>Do we want to do anything to discourage the asking of question like this? Do we want to encourage All to ask different questions?</p>
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2013/09/27
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666
<p>In <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/13342/is-it-a-good-practice-to-choose-my-undergraduate-research-topic-on-my-own-can-i">this</a> question, JeffE says that academic research questions are firmly on topic. However, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/13368/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-choosing-my-own-research-topic">this</a> question is about undergrad research and it seems the question could just as easily relate to graduate level research but it was closed as being off topic.</p> <p>It seems either the rules are unclear or they are being followed inconsistently. Or, am I simply not seeing something that other people can see?</p>
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2013/10/15
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/666", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2692/" ]
681
<p>This post is provided so that people can, in the answers and comments below, test formatting features of Academia Stack Exchange.</p>
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2013/10/25
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683
<p>In the post <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/q/169/4394">What does the “application” tag mean (and what should it mean)?</a> a brief exchange indicates that the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/application" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;application&#39;" rel="tag">application</a> tag should concern applications for, for example, jobs (as opposed to applying something). The tag at the time of writing this has been applied to 89 posts. A relatively new tag has appeared, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/faculty-application" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;faculty-application&#39;" rel="tag">faculty-application</a> (currently on four posts). I can see that there are two ways to go here, to either use the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/application" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;application&#39;" rel="tag">application</a> tag as a base and adding tags such as <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;research&#39;" rel="tag">research</a>, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/faculty" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;faculty&#39;" rel="tag">faculty</a> and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/graduate-school" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;graduate-school&#39;" rel="tag">graduate-school</a> to narrow down the scope of <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/application" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;application&#39;" rel="tag">application</a> or to accept "hybrid" tags such as <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/faculty-application" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;faculty-application&#39;" rel="tag">faculty-application</a>. I would opt for the former but what would be preferable. With only four tagged posts it would be easy to make the change.</p> <p>I see this also reflecting on how the tags are built and used in general.</p>
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2013/10/27
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/683", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/4394/" ]
686
<p>I recently added the new tag 'student-evaluation' to the question <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/13669/">Is it appropriate to include additional materials in an academic job application?</a>, but this was quickly removed. However, from what I could find, there are no tags describing this subject, even though such a tag should be relevant for many questions here on AcademiaSE (both current and future ones).</p> <p>Searching the main site, 'evaluation + teaching' turns up <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=evaluation+%2B+teaching">62 results</a>, and from scanning these the tag would clearly be relevant for many of them. The specific phrases '"teaching evaluations"' and '"student evaluations"' shows up 6 and 7 times respectively.</p> <p>When adding the tag I initially chose between 'student-evaluation' and 'teaching-evaluation', and chose the former. However, either one would fit the purpose, and on a second thought the latter option might be more general (could encompass 'student-evaluation' but also other types of evaluations of teaching skills).</p> <p>Do you think that there is a need for such a tag? From what I can see there seems to be a "research-bias" in the current tags, with relatively few tags that deal with the teaching side of academic activities.</p>
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2013/10/28
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/686", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7223/" ]
689
<p>I wanted to vote to close <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/13711/creating-an-central-multi-purpose-dictionary-database">Creating an central multi-purpose dictionary / database</a>, but under "off-topic" I only find the following pre-canned motivations:</p> <ul> <li>cannot be generalized to apply to others in similar situations</li> <li>about problems facing undergraduate students </li> <li>belongs on another SE site</li> <li>other (insert your own).</li> </ul> <p>In particular, there is nothing along the lines of "this is off-topic because it has little to do with academia", or "it is a <a href="https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/14470/what-is-the-boat-programming-meme-about/14486#14486">boat-programming</a> question", or even "off-topic question is off-topic".</p> <p>Is this deliberate?</p>
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2013/10/29
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/689", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/958/" ]
697
<p>I have been trying to locate a particular answer but couldn't find it, even when using every bit of information I remember from the answer in question (in my case: it was an answer about dealing with the impostor syndrome and contained lots of links, if I remember correctly written by F'x)</p> <p>I figured that could be a good meta question; what can you do if you cant find some material on AC.SE even though you are sure it exists (or -ed at some point)?</p>
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2013/11/27
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/697", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/5674/" ]
711
<p>In <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/14659">my answer to "How to write a white paper for a non-academic"</a>. I mentioned that I know a true story, an example of such a situation with a "happy end". Now, it was requested that I relieve more information about this, which I originally didn't want to.</p> <p><strong>What do I know:</strong> I know who are the authors, I know one of them in person (from a conference) and he made a conference talk from where I know the information. I know quite well the topic of the papers.</p> <p><strong>My question:</strong> Is it non-ethical to publish this information here?</p> <p><strong>My view of pros:</strong> it's all positive, therefore it's not really speaking behind their back.</p> <p><strong>My view of cons:</strong> I don't want to be a paparazzi that publishes such information on a random webpage/blog/... without the people's consent.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 713, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't think anyone <em>requested</em> details… but people are curious, especially went it sounds like a good story! So they <em>ask</em> for details.</p>\n\n<p>Don't feel pressured to reveal anything, if it's not public knowledge.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 722, "author": "Shion", "author_id": 1429, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/1429", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I would venture to add that, specifically, if we are considering anecdotes, if said anecdote is public information, then I don't think that it is a breach of privacy to reveal their names and other details (affiliations, gender etc.)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 737, "author": "Humble_J", "author_id": 10519, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10519", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>If their story is published, you would have to cite them as the authors… in that case, revealing their names and credentials would be fair ground. If the information you have is privileged meaning you have access to the info because you are friends, you happen to know them personally or they asked you to proof read some papers. It would not be ok to use such info especially on a public site.\nIf you are truly concerned, go on and ask for their blessing/permission. </p>\n" } ]
2013/12/10
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/711", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/1471/" ]
731
<p>I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to raise this issue, but:</p> <p>The stated purpose of the forum seems to be that the questions should benefit both undegraduates, graduate students and academicians. </p> <p>A question about writing a cv for an internship was put on hold on vote because it was deemed off-topic and unhelpful to the rest of the community <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15291/preparing-a-curriculum-vitae-for-an-undergraduate-internship">Preparing a curriculum vitae for an undergraduate internship</a></p> <p>Fair enough. However similar questions about obtaining research jobs <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15316/what-options-does-college-dropout-with-great-grades-research-projects-and-cv-ha">What options does college dropout with great grades, research projects and CV have to return to university (or thinktanks)?</a> or getting into grad school without an undergrad <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15288/is-it-possible-to-do-a-masters-degree-without-obtaining-a-bachelors-degree">Is it possible to be admitted to a Master&#39;s program after not completing Bachelor&#39;s degree due to academic dishonesty?</a> seem to be accepted without question, or relevance to the stated purpose of the forum. </p> <p>So my question is, what is the policy (if any) to ensure consistent moderation? It's not fair for some questions to get put on hold/deleted for being irrelevant when other equally irrelevant questions are allowed to stay up.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 732, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I changed the title of the question because the issue is not one of \"moderation.\"</p>\n\n<p>Stack Exchange sites are <em>community-driven</em>. Therefore, as much as possible, the moderators try to leave decisions to the general community. We will act unilaterally in clear-cut cases (abusive or spam posts, duplicates, completely off-topic questions such as programming questions, and so on). Otherwise, we prefer to wait until there's a consensus.</p>\n\n<p>In this particular instance, the close votes were entirely from regular users; the moderators played no role in closing the question. Personally, I agree that the question you've cited should be reopened, and would support a reopening \"campaign\"; I've indicated this in the comments section. However, as I also pointed out above, the moderators here prefer to work from a consensus standpoint, so I'd rather if several users voted to reopen instead of acting unilaterally. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 733, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I would like to welcome you to AC.SE. I am sorry your initial contact has been so unpleasant. This is the right place to ask these type of meta questions about AC.SE. You could also use chat, although it is generally pretty quiet. Ideally when questions get put on hold, the voters will provide a little more information about why they are closing it.</p>\n\n<p>Some people here feel anything undergrad related is off topic. I am not one of those. I think your question could have just as easily come from a grad student and hence be on topic. I haven't voted to reopen your question because I think it currently is too localized and the answers will only help you. There are also a lot of different questions that you are asking. A better, in my opinion, question, would ask about the theory of the different sections of the CV and not one so focused on your specifics skill set which no one else will have.</p>\n\n<p>If you edit it to be more general, I will be happy to vote to reopen it. In the absence of an edit, I will think about it.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 734, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I agree with the previous answers, and there are just a couple of points I'd like to add. </p>\n\n<p>If you look at the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic\">FAQ</a>, the topic is <em>for academics of all levels—from aspiring graduate and professional students to senior researchers—as well as anyone in or interested in research-related or research-adjacent fields</em>, and as such, undergraduates questions are deemed relevant only when they are related to entering graduate studies or could be easily applied to questions related to graduate life. Hence, a question that benefits only undergraduates is not necessarily on-topic. </p>\n\n<p>Secondly, I think any argument like \"this question should be open/closed because this other question is open/closed\" is not particularly constructive, since it's quite hard to compare questions and the reasons why they are closed or not. I've asked in the past for people to <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/455/the-more-comments-the-better\">put comments when they vote to close</a>, but unfortunately not everybody does (and in the case you point out, none of the closers left a comment to explain why they voted to close). It is possible that multiple reasons led this question to be closed, for instance, it's very specific (the OP listing his/her own skills), and looks like \"help me do my CV\" (which is off-topic) rather than \"what is a good CV\" (which could be on-topic, as aeismail pointed out). But I would be very careful in calling two questions \"equally irrelevant\". </p>\n\n<p>Finally, this is a community site, so feel free to edit any on-hold question, that's why they are on-hold and not deleted yet. If you think a question should be open, then you have every right to launch a campaign to reopen it, even if it's not yours. </p>\n" } ]
2014/01/04
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/731", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
740
<p>Should we have MathJax support on Academia?</p> <p>I think it would be useful if questions about math in academic writing are common here.</p> <p>I just asked <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15559/referencing-non-equations-see-eq-15-see-ineq-15">this</a> question and there it would have been nice (but not necessary).</p>
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2014/01/10
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/740", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10633/" ]
744
<p>I am worried that the rep system is leading to careless moderators coming into power. Part of my answer was:"What is unclear to me is whether someone like you who feels somewhat unsure is even less likely at all to graduate with a PhD than someone who goes in thinking R1 Tenure or death. Your waffling MIGHT even be a sign of mental health is what I'm getting at." The deleting mod's comment concerning this passage shows a lack of reading comprehension, which is almost assuredly due to carelessness rather than lack of intelligence: "Suggesting that someone who is not sure if they want to do what it takes to get a PhD might have mental health issues is over the top." I clearly said mental health, a positive attribute, but he deleted my answer from a careless reading, perhaps done due to the dissenting nature of my answer. What can we do to encourage mods not to delete things they haven't really read, and to encourage the promotion of people to power based on quality, not quantity?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 745, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Using my Super Sekrit Mod Tools, I can assure you that this is something that happens to everyone; old mods, new mods, red mods, blue mods. While I wasn't involved in this particular questions, there have been questions I closed due to my skimming the question and not getting the nuances. If I would ask about this in the mod chat room, I doubt there would be a person there who hasn't done this themselves, probably more than once. Your response—posting a well thought-out, not too accusatory post on meta—is the appropriate way to deal with this, and I really commend you for it.</p>\n\n<p>To that extent, after reviewing the flags and the discussion, I've undeleted your answer; I can't see any reason why it should have been deleted. For what it's worth, the answer doesn't really directly address the question, so you may want to consider either revising to make it more directed to taking a different direction with the answer. However, your point about the unfairness in deletion makes sense to me.</p>\n\n<p>If anyone has issue with this undeletion, please post in the comments below this answer so I will receive notification of your comment.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 746, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Let me preface these comments by saying that they are an attempt at explanation, not excusing behavior. Your answer was fine, but I could also see how it could be misconstrued, because I did the same thing as the other voters. </p>\n\n<p>Looking back at the history of the question, the issue is that you went back and added the section about \"a sign of mental health.\" It might be a minor thing, but I read that question and had a similar reaction to the users who voted to delete the question. (Note: a mod cast the <em>last</em> vote, not the only vote. Multiple votes were cast to delete the question, so more than one person had the same issue.)</p>\n\n<p>While your sentence is perfectly reasonable, writing \"a sign of mental health,\" the almost-Pavlovian instinct is to mentally tack on \"problems\" or \"issues.\" The votes to close came following the change (obviously), and I can see how they came about. But, as eykanal mentions, what you've done is the right way to do this. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 747, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>While a diamond mod cast the final vote, I cast the first delete vote and threw the flag. As soon as I saw your edit, I threw another flag saying I was wrong. I also left a comment so it would be clear why I was voting the way I was. I would have voted to undelete, but I am not allowed to vote to undelete diamond mod deleted answers. I checked back soon there after and the answer was restored. If it hadn't been I would have followed up in chat/meta to make sure it got taken care of. Once the answer was undeleted, I added a comment apologizing for the mix up.</p>\n\n<p>Having an answer downvoted/deleted can clearly be off putting to a new user. Having an offensive answer (or even one that can be easily misread as offensive) is also offensive to new users. The nice thing about the SE system is that we can fix screwups. The voting and flagging systems can fix most problems and the chat and meta systems can help with the difficult issues.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 748, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I was the moderator who deleted this answer, and after reading the different points here, I agree with the reversal of the deletion, and I'm sorry, I indeed assumed it was offensive. </p>\n\n<p>To answer your point of \"careless reading\", I actually read your answer, but let me go through the different reasons why I took it at the time (if only to show that we don't randomly delete posts). </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p>It's hard to see how you answer the question. You mention \"<em>On the ethical question, I think you have to ask that to yourself and find what your moral code is (I am a nihilist)</em>\", so basically, you answer by saying that the OP should answer him/herself. The fact that you personally are a nihilist is particularly irrelevant here. You said in the comments that you expect the same care than in academia, well, we expect the same in answers. Any good, constructive, motivated, justified answer is welcome here, how dissident or controversial it can be. As far as I can tell, the answer you provided is rather a subjective comment than an objective answer, and I'm not convinced how it can help the OP in any way. </p></li>\n<li><p>Your tone is quite pedantic, especially at the end: \"<em>someone like you who feels unsure is even less likely at all to graduate with a PhD than someone who goes in thinking R1 Tenure or death</em>\", or \"<em>I'd say screw it and act rationally, take what I could.</em>\". It is hard to convey a tone on a website, and so it is not necessarily clear whether your tone is motivating or just condescending. In this context, reading \"mental health\" was indeed perceived as something negative. </p></li>\n<li><p>At the time of the answer, you basically just joined the site, and you had no reputation at all, and although, ideally, it should not matter, you also have to understand that quite frequently, we have people coming to the website for the only sake of insulting other people, vandalising the site, etc. They usually take anonymous usernames and have no reputation. Hopefully, you shouldn't see much of them, since we try to remove any offensive content as soon as possible, but unfortunately, your profile at that time could have been easily categorised as such. </p></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>The different points above led me to believe that this content was offensive, and should be deleted, which was supported by the fact that the answer was flagged. It was a mistake, but I wanted to clarify why I took that decision. Deletion can be reversed (and as a matter of fact, it was), so I'd rather delete content interpreted as offensive, and clarify things later, rather than letting it linger. </p>\n\n<p>I'm glad to see that the process is working, and that you came to the meta to protest about it, which is the correct way to handle it!</p>\n" } ]
2014/01/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/744", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10739/" ]
752
<p>In this <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15783/re-typesetting-an-old-paper-what-to-do-with-the-result">question</a> the OP links to a nature paper that s/he is interested in re-typesetting. The link appears to be to an illegal copy of a non-open access paper that is available (presumably behind a paywall). Should we allow links to pirated papers or force people to link to the non-free version?</p> <p>For some questions you might need to be able to see the paper in order to answer the question, but in other (e.g., this case) you might not need to see the paper to answer the question. Does this affect or decision?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 753, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 4, "selected": true, "text": "<p>We shouldn't be posting unauthorized links, if at all possible to avoid doing so. I don't want to say \"absolutely not,\" because it can serve a useful purpose under limited circumstances. But \"probably not\" is eminently reasonable.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 760, "author": "Flyto", "author_id": 8394, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/8394", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I agree with others that we shouldn't host links to copyright-infringing copies of papers. However, since different journals permit reproduction of different stages of the publication process in different circumstances (e.g. some allow authors to put a copy on their personal website), it isn't necessarily straightforward to determine what is a copyright-infringing copy. </p>\n\n<p>Therefore, I think that we should refrain from flagging this unless it's very clear that the version being linked infringes, and perhaps add something to the Help for the site pointing out that we don't want dodgy links.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 762, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think we <em>should</em> allow links, regardless of the legal status of the content they link to.</p>\n\n<p>As a general rule for the Internet, I would prefer to keep as little self-censorship as possible. </p>\n\n<p>Moreover, having too strong policy on removing alleged links to piracy will result in removing some links that are legal (e.g. self-archiving that is legal).</p>\n\n<p>EDIT:</p>\n\n<p>While I think that it is a good practice to use an official link (preferably arXivID (<code>http://arxiv.org/abs/...</code>), DOI (<code>http://dx.doi.org/...</code>), or another id-based link), the direct access <em>is</em> important (without it some questions, or answer, may be incomplete).</p>\n\n<p>So how about using an official link plus (if it is not open access) <em>another</em> link (not synonymous with <em>illegal</em>!)? If it might be illegal, still - IMHO it should be on the conscience of the person who has uploaded it, posted the link or entered the link.</p>\n\n<p>(Again, on the Internet, I prefer under-policing to over-policing.)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 763, "author": "E.P.", "author_id": 820, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/820", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Regarding posts that contain links to freely-available versions that are not obviously pirated: I don't see the point to <em>removing</em> links to content. While there is indeed an argument for the permanence of the journal version (though this is only valid if it's a DOI link!), I don't see why both types of link can't coexist.</p>\n\n<h3>If a post already has an ostensibly legitimate link, <em>add</em> the journal (DOI!) version instead of replacing the eprint.</h3>\n" } ]
2014/01/17
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/752", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929/" ]
756
<p>I asked five question and two of them are being put on hold by viewer. Seriously, there are really no right to judge other people's question as no question is stupid. If you have no interest in my question or opinion conflict with mine, just go away please? I have no idea why ppl like bad fire work so much.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 757, "author": "earthling", "author_id": 2692, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2692", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I only see one of your questions put on hold and that appears to have supporters who want it re-opened. While I did not vote to close it I am not sure I can vote to re-open because of the structure of your question.</p>\n\n<p>The problem, as I see it, with your question is that it has an unsupported premise that large egos or perhaps arrogance is a better term is overwhelmingly present in academia. The lack of support for the negative premise comes off as a rant. I think this is what is \"turning people off.\"</p>\n\n<p>If you could structure your question in a more constructive way, I suspect you could get some very useful answers from the community here. I know I have.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 758, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Questions can be good questions and <strong>still</strong> not be appropriate for Stack Exchange.</p>\n\n<p>The guidelines of Stack Exchange sites state that questions should not be \"opinion based\"; they should also ask a clear question. One of the questions you are referring to fell into each category, respectively.</p>\n\n<p>I will note that the questions have gotten many negative votes, as well as close votes. That means the general consensus of the community is that they are not good fits for the site. However, close votes and downvotes are <strong>not</strong> \"abuse.\" They are how the site expresses itself—and this is a community-driven site. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 759, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Questions are put on hold when the community deems that they do not adhere to the site's rules and format. It gives time for <strong>you and other people to improve them</strong>, if possible, into a more fact-based answerable question. If not, they will be deleted in the future. In fact, <strong>one of your questions “on hold” was edited, improved and people then voted to reopen it</strong>. Which shows that the process works, even if it can be a bit frustrating sometimes!</p>\n\n<p><em>“there are really no right to judge other people's question as no question is stupid”</em> — This site has a limited scope and format, and not all sensical questions are suitable here. The community decided on the scope, and how best to manage it. As the “owner and manager” of this site, it has every <em>right</em> to judge whether a question is appropriate here. But if it judges a question is not, it doesn't mean it's stupid.</p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p>Finally, regarding <em>“just go away please”</em>: I'm not sure coming to an established community, and say “if you don't like the way I do things, please go away” makes a lot of sense :)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 764, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The community decides what are low-quality contributions, and have various means of dealing with it. As you've found on most of your contributions to date, that includes a combination of editing, downvoting, closing and deleting.</p>\n\n<p>That's exactly <strong>how and why</strong> this site is so successful: the experienced posters can and do assess the quality of contributions, and use the moderation tools available to them to maintain the site's well-defined scope, and its quality.</p>\n\n<p>You have walked into someone else's house, started throwing things around, and shouting.</p>\n\n<p>You've been told that this is not acceptable behaviour.</p>\n\n<p>And now you're asking the other tenants to move out?</p>\n\n<p>Most of your posts have been about your dysfunctional relationship with your supervisor (and maybe with others). And now you've written about it inappropriately here, creating dysfunctional patterns with other posters here.</p>\n" } ]
2014/01/21
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/756", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10694/" ]
765
<p>I am unsure about the appropriateness of the question <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16215/modafinil-for-academics">https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16215/modafinil-for-academics</a>. </p> <p>For background, Wikipedia informs us that modafinil is better known in the US by its brand name, Provigil, and is a "vigilance promoting" drug currently approved for the treatment of various sleep disorders. The question seems to ask about using it in what we might call a "performance enhancing" role, rather than for a specific medical condition. In the US, modafinil is available by prescription only and is a controlled substance, so using it without the supervision of a physician would probably be illegal (IANAL).</p> <p>There is a long history of academics using psychoactive drugs to improve their work, and arguably questions about drug use in academia are on-topic. However, the current question has a "how-to" flavor which makes me less comfortable. I would rather not see this site move in that direction.</p> <p>If any SE moderators/admins wish to weigh in on potential legal issues, that would be welcome as well.</p> <p>Thoughts?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 766, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>This is an example of a <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/14470/what-is-the-boat-programming-meme-about\">\"boat programming\" question</a>. You could replace \"for academics\" with anything and it wouldn't meaningfully change either the question or the answers. Therefore it's off-topic.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 767, "author": "earthling", "author_id": 2692, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2692", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I am also concerned about that question. However, I think it is still valid. The cost of using performance enhancing drugs in academia is not the same as in the medical field. For example, an academic who is primarily a teacher would normally have significant breaks during the year which could be used to recover from the effects...that is, to detox.</p>\n\n<p>I do think this question is on the line but not because it applies equally to all professions (I do not think that). I think this question is on the line because it could easily lead to some promoting damaging drug use. At the same time, we can all give our thoughts, referencing relevant research showing the negative long-term effects.</p>\n\n<p>In the end, I would vote to leave it open....but as I wrote, it is right on the edge for me about what should be allowed here.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 774, "author": "Wakem", "author_id": 10739, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10739", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Perhaps a better question would be, \"Do long hours spent intensively on (math) research, beyond the normal physiological capacity of the human brain, have a marginal benefit to research quality, above that of substituting periods of non-sleep relaxation, in the long run?\" </p>\n" } ]
2014/01/27
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/765", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/1010/" ]
769
<p>I've now seen a series of questions from <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/users/10694/user10694">user10694</a> that paint a picture of a completely dysfunctional advisor-advisee relationship (Rather than list them here, it might be easier just go to the user page: all of this user's questions are on the same general topic)</p> <p>In each case, the community has tried (as far as possible) to answer the question as a stand-alone situation, because in all fairness each question <em>by itself</em> does merit attention. </p> <p>The problem here is the sequence. It's not at all clear to me that the answers are being taken to heart at all: one piece of evidence is that not one of the questions has an accepted answer. </p> <p>It's also becoming more and more difficult for me to answer yet another of these questions knowing the history of this user's questions. The tone in the questions also doesn't appear to help very much. </p> <p>Of course the easiest solution is for me to ignore these questions in the future. And maybe that's the right answer. But I'm wondering whether it's worth encouraging this user to try and dig deeper into the apparent dysfunction, or at least show some indication that they're trying to act on the numerous sound bits of advice the community is dishing out ? </p>
[ { "answer_id": 770, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<blockquote>\n <p>The problem here is the sequence. It's not at all clear to me that the\n answers are being taken to heart at all: one piece of evidence is that\n not one of the questions has an accepted answer.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Just because the OP doesn't take the answers to heart doesn't mean other people with dysfunctional relationships with their advisor won't. That is why we don't like localized questions since we want our answer to be able to help lots of people. As for not accepting answers, over at TeX.SE they have some <a href=\"https://tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/430/text-building-blocks\">text for common comments</a> including</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Since you have some responses below that seem to answer your question,\n please consider marking one of them as ‘Accepted’ by clicking on the\n tickmark below their vote count (see <a href=\"https://tex.meta.stackexchange.com/q/1852\">How do you accept an\n answer?</a>). This shows which\n answer helped you most, and it assigns reputation points to the author\n of the answer (and to you!). It's part of <a href=\"https://tex.stackexchange.com/about\">this site's idea to\n identify good questions and answers through upvotes and acceptance of\n answers</a>.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I think the bigger issue is the sequence of questions. Looking at the votes for each question in isolation some are okay and some are down right bad. Thinking about the okay questions in the light of the entire series makes me think that they are not particularly good questions either. That said, I think we can let the community decide with voting, it is not like the OP is asking hundreds of questions. We can also try and improve the questions through comments and editing.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 771, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>For better or for worse, the nature of the StackExchange platform explicitly discourages that sort of interaction. The \"SE way\", if there is one, is to provide answers to well-formulated, generalizable questions. User-to-user communication is not only discouraged, it's simply not even possible on the website.</p>\n\n<p>Within that framework, I would suggest that the answer to your question is that you should just ignore questions from users whom you feel are not taking your answers seriously. There's no real problem with users not accepting answers to their questions, and if the user doesn't continuously post bad questions the mods won't take action. Just ignore stuff you don't want to answer.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 772, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In this particular case, the user in question would appear to be just using academia.SE as their personal blogsite to rant about their supervisor (and now, it would seem, to try to <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/16335/96\">find reasons to get them dismissed</a>). At some point, the moderators' tolerance will run out, and the user will get suspended. Given that the moderators here are more active and interventionist than on most other SE sites I'm on, I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. But it's surely just a matter of volume and time now.</p>\n\n<p>But that the user is oblivious to the help they are given, doesn't matter, as long as the user is continuing (intentionally or despite themselves) to provide content that is valuable to others.</p>\n\n<p>The community does have the power to downvote, close and delete poor-quality contributions. It's up to those of us with those specific privileges to be active in using them.</p>\n\n<p>And flag one of the user's lower-quality posts for a diamond moderator's attention, and let them know about the disruptive nature of the user's behaviour.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 773, "author": "Irwin", "author_id": 5944, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/5944", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Unfortunately, we're a Q&amp;A site, not a mentoring site or a counseling site or a support group. If an individual user wants to help this poster in his or her particular situation overall, then I think that an individual should be welcome to do so (and to mention it in answers as appropriate) but I don't know if there should be some kind of site-wide announcement to \"try to help user10694 in a certain way\".</p>\n\n<p>Some people are beginning to catch on to this user's pattern of posting and are calling him/her out on previous posts as well, especially with a lot of \"Run, don't walk\" posts. I think that's fair to do.</p>\n\n<p>Basically - I don't think anything should change with respect to this user.</p>\n" } ]
2014/01/28
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/769", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346/" ]
776
<p>Layla has asked a question on <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16618/how-to-start-a-small-research-group-in-a-institution">advice for starting a research group</a>. While such a question at first does seem too broad, it also strikes me as exactly the kind of question that should be a "community wiki" question. It's a very pertinent and relevant question, but it should be a crowd-sourced solution, not an individual writing a single all-encompassing answer.</p>
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2014/02/06
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/776", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53/" ]
779
<p>Working in academia is not just navigating university politics. It is also about conducting research and teaching one's field to students. </p> <p>Academia already has an explicit policy of accepting questions on "university pedagogy". This covers the teaching part of a university employee's life. </p> <p>But research is as least as important as teaching. (In fact I know many academics who are willing to do research without teaching, and none who would like to do teaching without research, so maybe it is even considered more important by academics?). So people in academia need to know how research is done. </p> <p>And I don't mean the nitty gritty stuff of choosing a varimax or quartimax rotation for the factor analysis in a given experiment. This can be asked on stats.stackexchange. </p> <p>But generations of researchers have created a body of theory of science and philosophy of science. Starting with epistemological vs. ontological definitions of knowledge, and going into different theoretical perspectives and methodologies. This is a topic which is field-independent; every scientist's work is touched by it, no matter whether she is in psychology, molecular biology or material science. </p> <p>Doing research without this kind of knowledge is like hacking circuits without knowing Ohm's law. I know it, because I've tried doing research that way for the last four years and wondered why I am in a downward spiral of doing something, getting feedback from my supervisor or from reviwers that it is not the right thing, then trying to correct it (less motivated this time), and still not getting it right. Graduate students need to know it, else they do the wrong things. Professors need to know it, so they can explain to their grad students why the wrong thing they are doing is wrong, and how to find the thing which is right. </p> <p>There is need for this knowledge within academia. The everyday worklife of people within academia is affected by it. Academics are also currently the only people who <em>have</em> that knowledge. The theorists of science are scientists themselves. The professors who guide us, who define daily what good science is by deciding which article to publish and which to reject, by applying for grants for projects which are compliant with scientific principles, by evaluating their grad students' work, they all have an understanding of what proper research looks like, whether on an explicit or on an intuitive level. Experienced academics are the experts on this type of knowledge, and unexperienced ones are very much in need of it, in order to become better academics. </p> <p>I think that this situation perfectly reflects the spirit of StackExchange as a place where the experts in one topic answer the questions of the people starting out in their area, in order to make this type of knowledge available to everyone who struggles with becoming better in what he or she is doing. </p> <p>Therefore, I think this should be part of the on-topic areas for Academia.Stackexchange. It is the right place for it, and the community can only gain from allowing it. </p> <hr> <p>This post was prompted by the fact that <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16671/what-is-the-difference-between-criterion-validity-and-reliability-equivalence">I asked a question on this topic</a> and got several reactions from community members who found it off-topic. I don't know why they think so. Butif it is just because "this is not the kind of question we are accustomed to seeing around", then this shouldn't be a barrier. Just because nobody before has thought of asking this kind of question doesn't mean it isn't interesting for the people who ask it and the ones who answer. (And several people expressed interest too). </p> <p>I would also like to note that they couldn't think of a site which is better suited, and I think I made it clear in my argument above why <em>this</em> is the community to which it is suited, and not any other. </p> <p>It is up to the community to decide whether it wants to accept or reject this type of question. I would find it very sad if it decides to reject it, because this site would be its natural home, just like in real life, the university is the home of scientific theory. </p>
[ { "answer_id": 780, "author": "earthling", "author_id": 2692, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2692", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I believe the linked question (and other similar questions) is on-topic and if it is not, then it should be. I do not see why we would consider \"How to improve oneself as a teacher\" or pedagogical / classroom management issues and we would not consider \"how to research\" or research management issues.</p>\n\n<p>My vote is to keep the linked question and support these kinds of questions in the future.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 781, "author": "Penguin_Knight", "author_id": 6450, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/6450", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>It's an interesting question and I have no problem with where it should be posted. My approach is always if there is a question, then let's try to answer. (And I walk the walk; I just told a user <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16607/polite-and-professional-phrase-to-resend-an-email-mentioning-correction-in-the-s\">how to interact with a visa officer</a>). However, I have a hard time with the OP insisting that \"this question is for Academia\" = \"this question cannot be posted on anywhere else.\" They are fundamentally two things.</p>\n\n<p>I expressed in the comment that the question is suitable for CV, but got immediately shot down by a comment that \"CV is <strong>absolutely not</strong> the right place.\" I will be very surprised that a site called Cross <strong>Validated</strong> will reject a technical question about the definitions of validity and reliability.</p>\n\n<p>And as I have said, I am only expressing my comment on the \"This question cannot be posted on anywhere else\" bit. I believe Academia would have enough users who are familiar with this idea of validity and reliability to answer the question. And hence this is <strong>one of the</strong> right homes. I was just very surprised by the declaration \"This is not all about statistics!! So, it cannot be posted on a statistics board!!\" While the question itself is mostly related to definitions, and the scenarios are also applied.</p>\n\n<p>Anyway, I might have misunderstood your motive. Perhaps you didn't want just an answer, perhaps you thought of getting an in-depth discussion on the deeper meaning of this two concepts. My motive is to provide a suggested place for you to get the answer... and the suggested board needs not to be the origin of that knowledge. Just like if I want to know which of the two floor cleaners I should buy, I will have no problem asking a janitor working in our office, and I bet he/she does not have a PhD in chemical engineering (but more wonderful if he/she does). For this reason, Academia is fine, CV is fine.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 782, "author": "David Z", "author_id": 236, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/236", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't agree with the premise of this question. The information about theory and philosophy of science, including the linked question, seems to me to be utterly irrelevant to day-to-day life of many academics. A more apt comparison than that provided in the question would be to hacking circuits without knowing Maxwell's equations, which is perfectly reasonable.</p>\n\n<p>Of course, questions about how grad students can better understand why they are doing things wrong, or about how professors can better explain to grad students why they are doing things wrong, or so on, should be on topic. I have no objection to that. But I can't see how the kinds of theoretical/philosophical topics that this meta question is about fit that description.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 784, "author": "rumtscho", "author_id": 103, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/103", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>A clarification on the comment I made under the original question about validity, </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>CV is absolutely not the right place. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>It has created some misunderstanding, because I formulated it badly. It was a hastily written comment, in a moment when I was anticipating my question getting closed before it gets an answer - if you've been there, you know how it feels. Now I wish I had thought more before writing. </p>\n\n<p>Sometimes a question will have a topic which is interesting to more than one type of expert. Then it is up to the asker to decide where to post it. But an experienced asker knows that it will get a different answer, depending on where it is asked, so he chooses the place according to this. </p>\n\n<p>As an example, we had a <a href=\"https://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/41757/determining-sugar-content-of-liqueurs\">question</a> on Cooking recently, \"determining the sugar content of liqueurs\". Now, this is a question a chemist or a physicist can answer too. And indeed, after some discussion in the comments, I posted a <a href=\"https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8293/are-refractive-or-density-based-brix-meters-better-for-use-with-alcoholic-drinks\">question</a> on Chemistry.SE, because I wanted to know which existing measuring tool is better, density or refraction based. </p>\n\n<p>But I think that it was a very good decision on the part of the OP to ask on Cooking first. Because we were able to tell him that, while there are tools for measuring the sugar content, they won't let him solve his original problem of deciding how much sugar to add to alcohol-containing truffles, because sweetness perception depends on much more than just sucrose content. I think that a cook's perspective was more helpful in this case than a chemist's perspective. </p>\n\n<p>Similarly, when I asked my question on Academia, I already knew that I am interested in a theory-of-science perspective. And that while there surely are statisticians who are well-versed in theory of science, I figured that I have a much better chance of getting this type of answer on Academia. So my comment should have been worded something like \"please don't migrate it to Crossvalidated, because for this specific question, I know they will not give the kind of answer I am interested in.\" I didn't mean to suggest that questions about validity are generally not a good topic for statistics, although now that I re-read the comment, I understand why many people thought that I am saying that. </p>\n\n<p>I agree with Penguin_Knight that in general, Crossvalidated is one of the right homes for questions on validity and reliability. I created the current meta question because I think that Academia is another one, (and because there are other questions on scientific theory not concerned with validity), not because I think that it is the single right place for questions of this type. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 786, "author": "cbeleites unhappy with SX", "author_id": 725, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/725", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I mostly agree with @Penguin_knight, but want to add a slightly different direction:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>I'm active both on academia and on cross validated.<br>\nI'd have given the same answer to the same question regardless where it ended up.</li>\n<li><p>As the question is worded, I'd have agreed that it should be moved to cross validated. Not because validity and reliability are not relevant in academia, but because cross validated is the <em>more specialized</em> forum where it is appropriate. That is, it is <em>more on-topic</em> there. </p></li>\n<li><p>There is one very important point in the meta question here that is relevant for the decision where the question is most on topic: you explain here that you are interested less in an explanation of what exactly constitutes validity and reliability than on the general implications for research. I think if that had been spelled out in the question, the whole move-to-crossvalidated-or-not discussion would have been avoided. </p></li>\n<li><p>I'm still slightly in favor of cross validated as the most appropriate place. My reasoning why academia is not automatically the right place even if the intended point of view will be more than just statistics is that validation is far from being an exclusively academic question. It is of huge importance in industry.<br>\nMaybe not the most compelling reason, but a slight indication: the answers you got so far could perfectly stand on cross validated as well.</p></li>\n</ul>\n" } ]
2014/02/07
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/779", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/103/" ]
787
<p>Today I tried to flag a <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16851/how-the-gap-of-5-years-after-my-graduation-going-to-affect-me-in-job-hunting">question</a> as off-topic, because it has nothing to do with academia. The three options given to me for the reason for this were,</p> <ul> <li>cannot be generalized to apply to others in similar situations</li> <li>about problems facing undergraduate students</li> <li>belongs on another SE site</li> </ul> <p>These are three very specific reasons that do not cover a wide swathe of other possibilities. <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/689/no-closing-reason-for-nothing-to-do-with-academia">This question</a>, which may superficially appear as a dupe (but is not a dupe), shows a fourth option being offered: "Other". However, I do not see the "other" option.</p> <p>I suspect that "Other" is shown in the vote-to-close dialog, but not in the Flag one (but I can't confirm this as I can't vote to close on this site). Hence, effectively, "Other" is only available to those with certain rep.</p> <p>Is this discrepancy deliberate? Without an "Other" option for those without vote-to-close rep, it is very difficult to provide a helpful flag for an off-topic post.</p> <hr> <p>Following comments: The exact steps taken:</p> <ol> <li>Click "Flag"</li> <li>Click "It should be closed for another reason"</li> <li>Click "off-topic because..."</li> <li>See the screen shown below:</li> </ol> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/APh4d.png" alt="List of off-topic reasons without an &quot;Other&quot; option"></p> <p>It sounds as though perhaps the "Other" option is only shown to people with enough rep to vote to close, which is why most people on Meta are unable to replicate :-)</p>
[ { "answer_id": 788, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>This is not the behaviour I see. When I click flag>>it should be closed>>off-topic I get:</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/OhWLt.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>Note that in addition to the \"other\" option the button is \"Vote To Close\" and a vote counts against my vote count and not my flag count. It is exactly the same screen I see if I vote to close instead of flag. Presumably this is because you currently do not have the reputation required to vote to close. When I flag a question I get the following window</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/uapSL.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>again I have an \"other\" and this could be use to handle close>off-topic>other type situations (although potentially slightly less efficiently).</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1065, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Yes, this is status-by-design. If you are flagging, rather than voting, to close, then you have very limited options.</p>\n\n<p>But it doesn't matter. The flag will get handled through the usual queues, as an off-topic flag. So the specific nature of the off-topicedness doesn't matter for the flag. Those reviewing it, will make their own call on whether it is on or off topic, and if the latter, why it is off-topic.</p>\n" } ]
2014/02/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/787", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/8394/" ]
789
<p>In <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/16969/2692">this question</a>, the OP believes that studying by MOOC should be on-topic since it deals with the idea of gaining knowledge from a teacher in a more-or-less formal way. However, the question was closed as off-topic by several, including myself, who believe academia to be focused on universities and the like.</p> <p>While I can see the OP's argument, we do generally say that undergraduate studies is off-topic. Not that all MOOC are for undergraduates but rather there is a clear statement that not all learning is on-topic. This question is to help find the line between on- and off-topic.</p> <p>So, where does this question fall? On- or off-topic?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 790, "author": "Layla", "author_id": 6144, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/6144", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>If I can say something:\nMOOC courses are followed by people not only in their undergraduate degrees, but also at master's level. In those cases if one gets a certificate of accomplishment one can get extra credits for the course</p>\n\n<p>So I really still not see why MOOC is considered as something out of the academic world</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 791, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Questions about MOOC's are not <em>prima facie</em> off-topic. This question, however, does not ask a question relevant for our forum. \"Can I learn a subject using a MOOC\" is too broad for an SE site.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 794, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>This is a forum about academia, not education. MOOCs are directly related to education, but not necessarily academia. A question would <em>not</em> be on-topic simply by virtue of it's pertaining to MOOCs. The inverse is not necessarily true; an academia-related question may include some content about MOOCs.</p>\n" } ]
2014/02/14
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/789", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2692/" ]
795
<p>I recently deleted a few comments (mods, you can see them <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/admin/posts/17053/comments">here</a>) which had been flagged as off-topic. Briefly, the OP had <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17050/acknowledging-the-discussion-with-someone-in-the-paper-but-excluding-this-person/17053?noredirect=1#comment33712_17053">asked a question</a>, a community member answered, and then a separate discussion took place in the comments about a different academia-related topic. I removed the comments that weren't immediately related to the question. The answerer took issue with my removing the comments, as he had put work into finding the answer.</p> <p>My question here is: did I act inappropriately in removing those comments?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 796, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Yes—and no. </p>\n\n<p><strong>Yes,</strong> you acted inappropriately in the sense that the discussion was still very much ongoing at the time. I would not delete <em>informative</em> comments so quickly—you have to allow people the chance to read them at the time that the discussion is going on. Otherwise, you could remove useful information which might actually lead to improved questions or answers.</p>\n\n<p>However, if you had waited a few days before deleting the comments, then I would suggest that <strong>no</strong>, such behavior is appropriate. In the long run, Stack Exchange sites are not just about answering people's questions, but providing long-term curating of the answers. Extended side discussions that are not germane to the topic at hand detracts from that mission and should be removed when no longer pertinent to the discussion at hand. </p>\n\n<p>Of course, we don't want to cut off relevant communications among users of this site; such \"off-topic\" discussions can always take place in chat rooms.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 797, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I can see aeismail and Pete's answers, but in my opinion we need to keep comments short or the site becomes a chatroom (which we also have, of course!). In the example given, the number &amp; length of comments mean that many newcomers will probably not scroll down enough to see answers below Pete's.</p>\n\n<p>And the right time for clearing comment is the current time, because a) most people view the question when it's still active, b) we may not get around to doing it later.</p>\n\n<p>In short, in my opinion: <strong>having a prolonged comment discussion should only be very temporary</strong>, and should only lead to improving the question or existing answers. If the comments come to a useful conclusion, <strong>it should be incorporated into the answer</strong>. In all cases, the comments should be removed as soon as possible, <strong>by their authors</strong>.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 799, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In complement to the other answers, from <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/19756/how-do-comments-work\">How do comments work?</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p><strong>How do comments work?</strong></p>\n \n <p>Comments exist so that users can talk about questions and answers without posting new answers that do not actually answer their parent questions. Comments are often used to ask for clarification on, suggest corrections to and provide meta-information about posts.</p>\n \n <p>Comments are intentionally short, having maximum length of 600 characters, and allow only limited markup. URLs in comments automatically become hyperlinks. Each user may post only one comment every 15 seconds.</p>\n \n <p>Comments are disposable: unlike posts, there's no revision history, and they can be deleted without warning by their authors, by moderators, and in response to flags. </p>\n \n <p><strong>When should comments be deleted?</strong></p>\n \n <p>Comments are temporary \"Post-It\" notes left on a question or answer. You should not expect them to be around forever: Once a clarification has been made, an edit added to the post to include new information, or the issue in the comment is otherwise resolved, it is subject to deletion. In reality, many obsolete or chatty comments remain untouched due to the high volume of comments posted, but this does not mean that they can't or shouldn't be deleted in the future.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>In the case mentioned here, the comments were not made to ask for a clarification or suggest a correction, but to ask a new question, quite different (the original question is on acknowledgment, the comment asks about top journals). Hence, the comment <em>should</em> be deleted, and the conversation should be made in the chat, or a new question should be asked (although I would suspect that the corresponding question would likely be closed, due to its opinion-based form). Note that the search does not work on comments, making this information basically inaccessible to other users interested in the topic. Either this information is useful for many users, and should be converted into accessible content, or it is not, in which case it should be deleted. </p>\n\n<p>Hence, the proper form of communication on this site should have been: <code>just-learning</code> should have a left comment to <code>Pete L. Clark</code> asking to join a chat conversation to discuss about the top journals, and this comment should have been deleted once the conversation had started. </p>\n\n<p>There has been some discussions on the past on the possibility of contacting directly another user (<a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64/contacting-referring-to-another-member-of-se-outside-of-a-comment-thread\">Contacting/Referring to another member of SE outside of a comment thread</a>), and this has been declined, for the reason that <em>Stack Exchange is by design avoiding social networking features</em>. </p>\n\n<p>Now, we can discuss about what should be StackExchange, and how we can improve it, and perhaps in this particular case, it could have been useful to have an option to automatically turn the conversation into a new chat room, instead of just deleting the comments. Perhaps it could have been smoother to first leave a message indicating that the comments are off-topic, and to delete then only when another solution has been found. But in the end, deleting them was the right decision with regards to the site. </p>\n\n<p>-- </p>\n\n<p>On a side-note, I personally find particularly non-constructive the attitude <em>\"if this is the way it works, I will stop contributing\"</em>. No user is forced to contribute, and no user gains from contribution, apart from the collective gain of getting great answers to great questions. It is perfectly fine to question decisions made by mods, and to offer new solutions to solve problems, but someone threatening to stop contributing if they don't get it the way they want is not helpful. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 804, "author": "Pete L. Clark", "author_id": 938, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/938", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Let me respond to Charles' answer.</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li><p>Thank you for including the link to the source of your excerpted passage about comments. That makes clear that it does not originate with this site and is not directly espoused by the users of this site: it is a message from some of the creators and adminsitrators of the hardware that explains how they intend it to be used. </p>\n\n<p>However, any particular SE site is a group of people allied around building information and answering questions in a certain focused area. Like all communities, we have the right and obligation to make our own norms. If these norms diverge too far from those of the SE administrators...well, we can cross that bridge if/when we came to it. We came very close on MathOverflow.net, but after a long period of time, the SE administrators agreed to some very site-specific features and philosophies. Note that this was done in part because of the MO community being clear that certain things were necessary in order to ensure their long term commitment to the site. </p>\n\n<p>I disagree that this passage should be used prescriptively across all SE sites. Some people at SE would want it to be: that's their perspective, which obviously carries a good deal of weight...as does ours, since both parties are equally necessary in order for the site to exist at all. But from a factual perspective it is clear that this \"ephemeral\" notion of comments is <em>not</em> the one which is practiced on MathOverflow.net, and to a lesser extent not on math.SE. Just to give an example, on MO the primacy of comments is so extreme that there are many questions which are <em>only</em> answered in comments. (In my opinion this is <em>too</em> extreme, and I have sometimes left community-wiki answers to such questions just to make sure that questions get answered in the technical sense. But I'm describing how things are at the moment, not how any one person wants them to be.) </p>\n\n<p>What follows most strongly from the previous paragraph is</p></li>\n<li><p>There is certainly no uniform agreement across all SE sites on the precise purpose and usage of comments. On any given site this is something that evolves culturally: all users participate in it, and respond to what they feel is \"inappropriate\" participation by others. No one person on academia.SE gets to say what comments are for and how they should be used. Thus I am disappointed that Charles tried to do this in his answer:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Hence, the proper form of communication on this site should have been: just-learning should have a left comment to Pete L. Clark asking to join a chat conversation to discuss about the top journals, and this comment should have been deleted once the conversation had started.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Please don't phrase your opinions as telling me and others what is the \"proper form of communication\". That is for all of us to judge. For my part I do not use the chat features of the site. I do sometimes contact people via email off the site, and since my email address is available they are free to contact me. When I make comments, I have chosen to do so. One difference is: comments are <em>public</em>; emails are private; chat is somewhere in between (I think; anyway it is not available to those who are reading the content that prompted the comments). </p>\n\n<p>Can comments get out of hand? Yes, of course. It has happened to me on many sites, including on this one. In the sites math.SE and mathoverflow that I have participated in (and, I don't want to make a measuring contest about this, but I do have <em>very extensive</em> participation on these two sites, as anyone can check; in particular, I believe that I can claim to have as well-formed idea of what I want to use comments for as almost anyone), sometimes comments spiral out of hand by either (i) getting personal or (ii) getting confrontational / impolite. In such situations it is great to have moderator intervention. My understanding is that moderators spend a lot of time (on certain sites, anyway) intervening in such matters, and that seems like the best use of their time. </p></li>\n<li><p>Concerning idea that comments which range off-topic from the question/answer should be deleted, I respond: it depends what is meant by off-topic. If it ranges outside of the scope of the site, then yes, it is a good time to curtail the conversation. However, if it just switches from one on-topic issue to another: well, that's what happens when professionals are having a profitable interaction. To me that is exactly the sort of positive interaction that sites like this are supposed to be encouraging. If you disagree, that's your right, and it's your right to try to act on it. But there are various ways to do that. You could act on it by leaving a comment saying, \"Hey guys, maybe you'd like to move this discussion to....\" In the case at hand that would have been a very appropriate and positive contribution: probably the OP <em>should</em> have asked a new question. But my point is that a short exchange in the comments is a positive move in the direction of such a new question. Flagging the comments and then deleting them is an incredibly negative move to make. This brings me to:</p></li>\n<li><p>I get personally as well as professionally annoyed when my speech is deleted without a record made.</p>\n\n<p>I am an academic mathematician, and though in many ways the latter is more definitive of my professional identity, in other ways the former prevails. This is such a time: valuing others' speech and writings is a sacred principle of academia. Academics agree that censorship is bad more strongly than they agree on almost anything: this was passionately argued for in Milton's <em>Areopagitica</em> in 1644 and has been well-accepted in the Western academic world more or less ever since. To me <strong>there is almost nothing which is more offensive than simply removing my text</strong>. (Seriously: if you want to respond to my comment by saying, \"Hey, you asshole, why are you wasting my time and cluttering my page. Nobody cares!\" then not only am I not that much annoyed by that...but it is much more likely to get me to remove or reformulate my comment. When you delete my comment, I think you are almost denying my personhood and wonder why I should even be associating with you.) This idea is well-understood on the two math sites mentioned above. It would be pretty ironic if this academic principle were felt less strongly on academia.SE....but let's see how people feel about it, I suppose.</p></li>\n<li><p>We do need to push back in contemporary fora when our concepts of personal and academic freedom are being comprised. It is clear to me that the founders of SE do not value these freedoms as strongly as I do or most academics do. Those who have known me for a while know that several years ago (SE cofounder) Jeff Atwood deleted two of my comments on meta.math.SE. I said then what I said now: if that continues to happen, I must leave. Jeff Atwood was at the time very uncompromising, and I did take a break from contributing to that site...during which time I honestly think that my action was felt and taken into account. Jeff Atwood quickly became much more reasonable in his efforts as a \"policeman\" (his word; I think it's silly) on math.SE....and in fact he is no longer associated with the company at all. </p></li>\n<li><p>Charles also writes:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>No user is forced to contribute, and no user gains from contribution, apart from the collective gain of getting great answers to great questions. It is perfectly fine to question decisions made by mods, and to offer new solutions to solve problems, but someone threatening to stop contributing if they don't get it the way they want is not helpful. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Whoa there: you are really devaluing your product. Users can gain from contributions to this site in the following other ways:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li><p>They can get their questions answered in a timely manner by an expert audience.\n[Questions are contributions, and getting <em>your</em> question answered when you need it answered is much different than the collective gain of an agglomeration of answers.]</p></li>\n<li><p>Users can gain experience about how academia works in a worldwide, field-independent context, whereas most academics' (I mean me...) day-to-day life is mostly confined to their department in their university in their country. This is one of my main reasons for being active on this site: I have a lot of experience with my corner of academia, but I know very little about how HCI people do things or how people do things in India. Knowing this will be both directly and indirectly valuable to me: for instance it could make me a better department chair in the future. </p>\n\n<p>[In order to get the most benefit out of interacting with academics around the world and the academic spectrum....you need to <em>actually let us interact a bit</em>. The idea that anything other than \"The answer to Question X is Y\" is idle chit-chat is really not helpful in this respect.]</p></li>\n<li><p>Participation on globally active sites like this promotes me, my department and my university. My activity on MO and math.SE has done more for graduate admissions at UGA than anything else I have done or could do...I can really see the difference it's made. </p></li>\n<li><p>Dually to the previous point: participation the site puts students in contact with professors: maybe by participating on this site I meet a math student in a faraway land who turns out to be really promising. My contact with this student could be really helpful for her (and hers for me). Please think about that when you delete comments between me and other students and young mathematicians. </p></li>\n</ol></li>\n</ol>\n" }, { "answer_id": 813, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'm coming late to this party, but I am puzzled by the desire to remove comments. If a comment thread starts getting excessively involved, the system automatically encourages people to move to chat. If they still don't want to, is that so terrible ? </p>\n\n<p>I agree that a comment might reference an edit that once made makes the comment moot. But in such cases I've often highlighted the edit as an update, so that the comment continues to make sense. </p>\n\n<p>I've also deleted my own comments when I felt they were no longer necessary. But I wouldn't delete others comments unless they crossed the line into abusive/obnoxious/spamming behavior. </p>\n" } ]
2014/02/17
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/795", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73/" ]
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<p>I was reading <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17085/why-do-professors-sometime-hide-the-book-from-which-they-are-really-teaching">this question</a> which was migrated from Math.SE. Although this question was closed as a rant it made me wonder about migrated questions.</p> <p>This question was asked by someone without an A.SE account (I think that's the case) so, for example, the username shows up but there is no link. I'm not sure if that user will get comments or answers. I also wonder if that user can (or would) ever accept an answer.</p> <p>All of this begs the question, when non-A.SE-users are the asker of a question, should we delete and re-ask the question so that it belongs to someone who can actually answer clarifying questions and who can accept answers?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 801, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>My gut answer is: <em>no</em>, you shouldn't. </p>\n\n<p>A user who wants to follow up with a migrated question can join our site. If not, it's wrong to take somebody's question and pass it off as your own. </p>\n\n<p>However, you could certainly choose to \"adopt\" a question, and be responsible for its curating over time.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 803, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<blockquote>\n <p>This question was asked by someone without an A.SE account (I think that's the case) so, for example, the username shows up but there is no link. I'm not sure if that user will get comments or answers. I also wonder if that user can (or would) ever accept an answer.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Your intuition is correct; the individual does not exist on our site, so they would not be alerted to new responses and cannot accept answers.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>When non-A.SE-users are the asker of a question, should we delete and re-ask the question so that it belongs to someone who can actually answer clarifying questions and who can accept answers?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Remember, this is a community-owned site. We can discuss the question in the question comments, and anyone can then edit the question to clarify confusing content. There's no need to delete and re-ask just so that we can accept the answer.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 817, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The only way I could see this working and, as aeismail has stated, not having it end up feeling like we've repackaged questions asked by others for our own benefit, is to have a dedicated account, somewhat ala the \"Community\" account for owning those answers, which the mod staff has access to.</p>\n\n<p>I think in that case, it's still somewhat problematic, as the \"Accepted\" answer then becomes the moderation staff's <em>best guess</em> at the correct answer, rather than the answer the user truly would have accepted. This has two problems in my opinion:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>It substitutes no information for potentially wrong information, which always makes me nervous.</li>\n<li>It creates the potential for a kind of \"cultural homogeneity\" as the large number of ownerless questions have their answers then dictated by a relatively small group of users. If these \"Super Answerers\" all come from a particular perspective, the same field, etc. I think you create a fall sense of there being community norms where none actually exist.</li>\n</ul>\n" } ]
2014/02/18
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/800", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2692/" ]
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<p>Fellow Users of Academia.SE,</p> <p>Recently on academia.SE and meta.academia.SE, I wrote that I was unwilling to have longterm participation in a site for which content -- specifically comments, although my own perspective is more of a blanket one -- which is on-topic for the site are being deleted. My feeling is that this is a mild form of academic censorship. I am very passionately against the encroachment of academic censorship, however mild, and I think the SE model is in some ways a credible threat to making inroads on this.</p> <p>Although the moderator who deleted my comment apologized very nicely, two moderators found a statement of mine similar to the above "unconstructive", "vacuous" and "distasteful". When I pointed out that comments are treated the way I want them on mathoverflow.net and math.SE, the response was that this site is very different from those sites. [<b>Added</b>: The original comment was "Suffice to state, Math.SE is run far differently than any other SE site, this one included." I believe this comment to be inaccurate, which is why I did not repeat it exactly. If it is seriously intended that experience built-up on math.SE and mathotherflow is somehow <em>a priori</em> inapplicable here, someone should certainly speak to that.] That seems to be true, but also this site is in the "beta phase" because there is not enough involvement, so questions about what future course the site could take seem maximally on-point. </p> <p>In other words: maybe academics don't like participating in a site which has such a highly gamified / follow-the-rules approach to what is largely volunteer work / networking on their part. This is certainly not a hypothetical question: this was the main tension in the decision of whether to move mathoverflow.net to the SE2.0 model. This was finally done only after many concessions from the SE developers, and the whole thing happened at least a year after the "negotiations" were first started: in the end the SE people agreed to several things which at the beginning they were adamant would not be possible.</p> <p>Also a colleague of mine tried to start a math-education stack exchange site. I told her that this could be a good idea but also warned her that there were a lot of strange-looking (to us) rules and hoops to jump through, especially at the early stages. She tried it anyway, and the site didn't make it past Area 51: the cultural disconnect between interested math educators and people who like and enforce the SE platform was a little too high. More recently she -- assisted by my PhD student -- made an independent site which is similar to the SE platform but adapted to be less gamified and rigid: this is the <a href="https://mathematicsteachingcommunity.math.uga.edu/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Mathematics Teaching Community</a>.</p> <p>I am very interested to know whether other academics feel that there any cultural mismatch between the mainstream SE model and the goal of getting academics involved in such a question and answer site. Please let me know how you feel about the censorship question above and/or also this broader issue. I would appreciate answers from users who identify themselves with their real name and academic affiliations (past or present), although that is certainly not required.</p> <p><b>Added</b>: I remember now that I did once before raise the issue of censorship with respect to comments <a href="https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/97283/dont-remove-the-part-of-my-comment/97942#97942">here</a>. The practice I was talking about was different but, in my opinion, less severe than deletion.</p> <p><b>Added on November 27, 2014</b>: A comment of mine was recently deleted without warning or acknowledgment. This comment was pertaining to a question that was unilaterally closed by a moderator. My comment expressed -- wholly civilly -- an opinion about in what circumstances moderator closure was appropriate. It included the information that I had been typing an answer while it was unilaterally closed (another user had just said the same). Thus my comment about how moderator intervention literally wasted my time and nullified my actions on this site was deleted by a moderator. I have made my views on this clear in this question. When moderators delete relevant comments which pertain to them, they participate in the most troubling form of censorship. At the present time I will take a break from this site to reflect on these issues.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 806, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>SE is an information system, which means that information is structured in certain way. It's by nature different from a message board or a link sharing website.\nComments are structurally volatile in the way the site work because they don't appear in the search, they cannot be downvoted, and only the top-voted appear at first, regardless of their initial position in the thread.</p>\n<p>You can argue that we need some kind of persistent comments, and I will argue that there are plenty of other sites offering that possibility (e.g., reddit). SE is a Q&amp;A website where the point is to have questions answered, in the most understandable way possible (i.e., without having to parse a thread of 20+ unstructured/unformated comments). Now, if enough other users are willing to change the way SE works, then so be it, and let's bring the SE developers on this. As long as the comments are managed the way they currently are, they should be considered as ephemeral.</p>\n<p>Also note that, since you mention that I <em>found a statement of [yours] similar to the above &quot;unconstructive&quot;</em>, I was referring to this statement of yours:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Deleting this comment because you personally think it is &quot;irrelevant&quot; is a bit offensive. If this happens again I will have to reconsider my activity on this site. (<a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/17053/102\">https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/17053/102</a>)</p>\n<p>But if you delete my communication while I'm communicating, then it is very disruptive and does not make me want to volunteer my time and expertise on a site like this (which would clearly like to have more involvement from career academics, not less, unless I drastically misapprehend the situation). (<a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/796/102\">https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/796/102</a>)</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Discussing about what is on topic is on topic. Threatening to withdraw your <em>time and expertise</em> is not constructive.</p>\n<p>I also take the problem of censorship very seriously, and I'm trying to be as inclusive as possible. You don't want your content to be removed? Here is a simple trick: don't put in a comment! Update the answer accordingly. If it doesn't fit in the answer, then create the question for which such an answer fits. If no such question can be created on this site, then it's off-topic.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 807, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>As Charles mentions in his answer, comments are not considered the equal of questions and answers. If somebody stumbled across the discussion two weeks from now and marked it as off-topic and recommended deletion, it probably would have been deleted, and that would have been the end of the matter. As I've said before, the goal is preserving the questions and answers for future users. If a comment has served its purpose, it can (and should) be deleted. </p>\n\n<p>Ultimately, it's a matter of utility. While some commentary and feedback related to the question is always useful, off-topic feedback left as comments don't help users. Moreover, your helpful information is going to get lost, since it's not indexed and not searchable. So unless it's in an appropriate venue for the topic, it's going to get lost in the ether. Without the other question, nobody would know to look in the question on excluding authors to see your comments about the best math journals. You <em>can</em> put it there—but why would you want to have it stuck there where it's going to be almost guaranteed to go unobserved?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 808, "author": "Mad Scientist", "author_id": 201, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/201", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Every site that allows contributions from the community has to remove content occasionally if that content violates the rules of the site. The only difference is how many rules the site has and how strictly they are enforced. Never removing any content from contributors under any circumstance is not a viable strategy, you need the ability to deal with spam, offensive content and abusive behaviour at the very least.</p>\n\n<p>Stack Exchange is a more rigid format than most comparable community-run sites like forums. A significant part of the value of the Q&amp;A format is due to this rigidity and the rather strict rules attached to it, but it is certainly also a source of frustration if you use SE sites for something that does not fit well to the SE model.</p>\n\n<p>The Q&amp;A format is simply not possible without what you consider \"censorship\". Non-answers for example are routinely deleted, and the sites would be worse if we didn't do that. The attitude towards comments varies a lot between SE sites, MSE and MO are on one extreme of the spectrum here. </p>\n\n<p>But I'd like to use MO as an example, because they actually do a significant amount of what I'd count as \"censorship\" under your view. They don't remove comments like other SE sites, but they are very strict with non research-level questions and with crank posts. As a mathematics professor you're very unlikely to be censored on MO, but someone posting \"too easy\" math on MO is very likely to have their contributions deleted quickly. </p>\n\n<p>There is still a lot of room between the extremes in terms of comment deletions, and this is something that each community can discuss and come to their own conclusions and policies. I'm personally <em>very</em> strict in removing any comments that are likely to escalate or that attack other users personally, as a Skeptics moderator where we tend to deal with controversial topics this is simply necessary to keep the peace on the site. And dealing with those often causes collateral damage as the least problematic action is very often to remove all comments on a post. I'm far less strict with unproblematic, but also not that useful comments. </p>\n\n<p>There are many valid postions between the extremes in terms of retaining or deleting comments, but I'd also like to add that I consider the MSE extreme to be harmful to a certain extent. I think this changed somewhat, or maybe it is simply more quiet on MSE now, but there were many very heated discussions on MSE meta including personal attacks in the past that were not deleted or only deleted much later. This lead to a rather hostile atmosphere there which is something I consider much more harmful than the removal of all those comments would have been.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 809, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p><em>First, thanks for raising this issue… though I do not exactly like the choice of words in your title and some of your post, it is an interesting issue of site policy, and something we should indeed discuss as a community.</em></p>\n<hr />\n<p>I'll add a short answer here, as moderator of two other sites somewhat related to Academia SE (similar clientele): Chemistry SE (which I currently moderate) and French Language &amp; Usage (of which I was a moderator for a year).</p>\n<p>The “comment moderation” on both sites is somewhat more strict that it is here, and certainly not like MathOverflow at all. The policy, on both sites, is as follows:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Comments should be used to <em>comment</em> on a question or answer, and in the longer term, all information in these comments should be integrated into posts: integrate new information into the question, improve the existing answers, or provide an expanded point of view as a new answer. The only comments viable in the longer term are short ones, which do not necessarily warrant full new answer.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p><sup>(it's not an actual quote, but since it concerns other sites, I wanted to clearly mark it as such and used the “quote” formatting).</sup></p>\n<h1> </h1>\n<p>As others have said, <strong>there are plenty of places to <em>discuss</em> about academia</strong> in general: forums, discussion boards, mailing-lists, chat rooms (including StackExchange's own chat server)… but <strong>the SE sites were not designed for that purpose</strong>. That's factual. That's what the SO and SE designers tried to avoid.</p>\n<p>Now, <strong>whether this situation should be changed is a matter of discussion</strong>. In my opinion, it shouldn't. We shouldn't have SE sites become mainly discussion-based, because <strong>their different nature plays a big part of their success</strong>. I love the community here, I chat sometimes on the chat room, but <em><strong>if the site were to turn into something closer to a discussion board, I would not invest time in it any more</strong></em>.</p>\n<hr />\n<p>PS: yes, part of moderation (not only by diamond moderators, but by all power users on SE sites) is censorship in its broader definition. I believe that your question would be more appropriately titled <em>“What should the community's standard censorship/deletion of comments be?”</em>.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 810, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I have a very hard time taking this seriously.</p>\n\n<p>We have here a user who has <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/users/938/pete-l-clark?tab=reputation#pete-l-clark?tab=reputation&amp;sort=graph&amp;_suid=139281210099406410589236180915\">only been really active in our community for about two weeks</a> who was upset about <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/795/removing-useful-but-not-immediately-on-topic-comments\">comment deletion</a>. He posted as such, a <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/795/removing-useful-but-not-immediately-on-topic-comments\">meta thread was made discussing the point</a>; the community had agreed that the comments should have been deleted at a later date instead of immediately, apologies were made, and the matter should have ended.</p>\n\n<p>However, instead of accepting the community's approach, this user posted a long, grandstanding thread about censorship, and started questioning whether the community—which the user had just joined two weeks prior—was well-run. Never mind that, <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283/keeping-track-of-our-stats\">by all measures, this community seems to be doing just fine</a>; never mind that the bit of moderating in question is performed numerous times daily; never mind that the moderators of this site have been pretty willing to <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/425/possible-not-a-question-post\">engage</a> <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/39/what-to-do-about-belligerent-users\">the</a> <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/718/whats-up-with-academic-dismissal-from-phd-program-what-next/719#comment2161_719\">community</a> <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/199/whats-the-difference-between-down-vote-vote-to-close-and-flag\">when</a> <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/215/which-of-these-posts-should-be-deleted\">taking</a> <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/205/what-should-happen-to-closed-questions\">moderator</a> <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/258/when-is-an-edit-not-an-edit-any-more\">action</a>.</p>\n\n<p>This all seems to be the grandstanding of a new user who is unused to the way our community is run and doesn't like what he is finding. While we <em>are</em> still in beta and the community can change, we've just passed the two year mark; this community has definitely matured significantly since inception. I fail to see any direct, convincing arguments being put forth in favor of change.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 811, "author": "posdef", "author_id": 5674, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/5674", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Ok, so here's the disclaimer: I am not really up-to-date on the discussion at hand so take my answer with a pinch of salt. I am giving my $0.02 to the question: <em>\"Is deleting comments a form of censorship?\"</em></p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p><strong>TL;DR:</strong> </p>\n\n<p><strong>Yes</strong>, it is... just as removal of any spoken/written communication would be censorship.</p>\n\n<p>And, <strong>no</strong> it is not a deal-breaker for communication exchange. It might not suit everyone but it works in the bigger picture, evidently.</p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p>SE sites have a very specific structure and they attempt to reinforce a community moderation in a very specific manner. </p>\n\n<p>I recall the first time I decided to ask a question on SO I was very frustrated with all the expectations that were put on a new user all of a sudden. It is also very hard to not take immediate and strict moderation personally. </p>\n\n<p>But, if you can pass beyond that SE sites are amazing, in the sense that they connect people that would not, in a million years, be able to find one another and exchange ideas. In my day-to-day work, I am never scared of technical (i.e. programming) problems as I trust in my skills of searching, and reaching out to others with significantly greater expertise in the matter at hand; whether that is the proper use of a library, programming language or algorithm. That's is both a lifesaver at times and a miracle of the modern internet, in its own right. </p>\n\n<p>However, much like all awesome things in life, internet has its downsides. Trolling is one for instance. Another one being people going off-track. There will always be clutter on the interwebs, and without moderation of weeding out things it would be a complete jungle out there. At SE sites, there is community moderation, meaning other users get to tag, retag, edit and even remove questions, answers and comments. It's not a water-proof way of doing things, but it <strong>is</strong> a valid way of keeping it tidy. If you feel that you have been unjustly treated, you take up your case with others in the community in meta (which is exactly what we are doing right now), and I have yet to meet a moderator that has been utterly and completely unreasonable. </p>\n\n<p>Sometimes the structure imposed on a SE site might hinder the progress of the site, or your own participation in it. A relevant example I can give from my own experience is Sports.SE. I was thrilled when it started, and was very active for a while. Later on I had some disagreements with the way things are done there (with respect to scope, subjectivity and discussions) which I took up on meta, and the community did not have a clear opinion on the matter on way or another. So things were kept as they are, and I just realized that I did not have much to gain in sticking around. I check the site occasionally to see if there is anything that tickles my interest but more often than not I do not spend beyond 15-20 mins a week on Sports.SE. </p>\n\n<p>So the take take-home message: if the community moderation principles do not work for you, then noone is forcing you to participate. It would be sad to lose users based on personal issues however it is also inevitable to some degree when so many people are communicating purely through textual messages (i.e. all other \"cues\" like body language, intonation etc are missing). </p>\n\n<p>One advice, if I may, is to see to discourse here on SE sites as if you'd have a serious conversation with peers in real life. Nobody likes ever-branching discussions, and have the subject trailing off to other subjects when the matter at hand is yet to be answered. </p>\n\n<p>Again, I am not sure what got you so frustrated but I hope you don't take it personally and choose to stay around for a while longer anyways. :) </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 812, "author": "Noah Snyder", "author_id": 25, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/25", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I have always found the active comment deleting policy at many SE sites rubs me the wrong way. I understand that it's the usual policy so I don't usually complain about it, but I do think it's misguided. In particular, I don't like that comments can be deleted with essentially no record that they were ever there and no way for high rep users to evaluate whether the moderator was behaving reasonably.</p>\n\n<p>Part of this may be mathematician culture, where it's natural to think of answers and comments as being at different levels of formality and so comments play a more crucial role. Part of it is also that as an academic I'm used to having more control over my speech than one would have in industry.</p>\n\n<p>One thing MO does, is that when comments are deleted from the main page, a record of them is kept and linked at the meta site (well actually at tea.MO, but a thread on the meta site with an answer for each time this happens would work just as well).</p>\n\n<p>I'd be very curious to hear from anyone who knows about cstheory.SE. My guess would be that since they're academics they have a similar policy to MO on comments, but I'm not sure. If it turns out that all the academic sites (MO, cstheory, the late theoreticalphysics) have a different policy from all the non-academic sites then it might be worth academia considering having a policy environment more similar to the academic sites than the non-academic ones.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 814, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'll repost here as standalone post (not a good practice in general, but we're on Meta!) a comment I left earlier when Pete asked <strong><em>“is the site doing just fine?”</em></strong>.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p><strong>By all the metrics we have, yes…</strong> growing user back, growing number of frequent flyers, very good self-evaluations, me being very happy. Like all metrics, these should be take with a grain of salt (e.g., the last one), but I generally consider this site quite successful — though we should still strive for improvement! In fact, the site has been ready for graduation for a few months now, and is held up (along with a few others) because there's a queue at the “site design” stage.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" }, { "answer_id": 2135, "author": "Jay", "author_id": 31056, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/31056", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>\"Censorship\" is a loaded word. It's not like anyone is stopping you from expressing the thoughts you expressed which were deleted here in some other forum.</p>\n\n<p>But that said, I agree that deletion of comments should be VERY limited. If someone posts a comment that is clearly totally irrelevant to the purpose of the site -- \"I make $10,000 a week working at home\" or some such -- sure, that should be deleted.</p>\n\n<p>But moderators on many of these StackExchange sites are way more aggressive than that. They talk a lot about \"this isn't a discussion board, we are trying to build a database of quality questions and answers that can serve as a reference\". Well sorry, but that's never in a million years going to happen. </p>\n\n<p>The whole structure of the site is that questions are posted by random visitors. So there is no pattern or organization to the set of questions. This is not a well-organized FAQ carefully put together by a team of experts. The moderators do not create the questions and do only limited work to organize them.</p>\n\n<p>The rules say that questions should not be general reference. That is, if you can find the answer by searching a dictionary or Wikipedia then you should not post it here.</p>\n\n<p>So we have a stated goal: We are trying to build a database of general reference questions. Then we have a rule: No general reference questions allowed. Hmm.</p>\n\n<p>Questions are then answered by random visitors, not by a team of certified experts. This practically guarantees that there will be contradictory answers, or at least answers that run at tangents to each other. i.e. there will be discussion in some sense.</p>\n\n<p>So again, we have a stated goal: No discussion, no controversial opinions, just straightforward answers. Then we have a format that only makes sense if we expect contradictory answers.</p>\n\n<p>So is this site for posting of alternative answers to questions, i.e. to discussion and debate ... or not?</p>\n" } ]
2014/02/18
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/805", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/938/" ]
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<p>I read a few (OK, too many) academic blogs. Often, readers write in asking the author of the blog to post a question they have about academia. Then the readers of the blog answer and discuss in the comments.</p> <p>These are often very interesting questions that are on-topic for academic.SE, and I think that this community would have useful answers that I'd like to hear. However, the help center says that </p> <blockquote> <p>You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on <strong>actual problems that you face</strong>.</p> </blockquote> <p>Is it appropriate to ask questions here that I've read on a blog, to find out what this community has to say?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 820, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Personally, I say <strong>yes</strong>.</p>\n\n<p>The problem with asking questions you <em>don't</em> face is that you end up with many philosophical questions that don't actually occur in real life. However, what you describe is events that do happen in real life, and are practical issues, but happened to other people instead of you. (I once posted a question on behalf of my wife, who was a first-year graduate student at the time, and didn't worry that I was violating the site guidelines.) So long as the problem is practical and something that you (or others) have faced, I say go ahead.</p>\n\n<p>I'm very curious to hear an opposing viewpoint.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 821, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I agree with eykanal, I don't see any problem in asking questions you found on a blog. To some extent, the problem is similar to: <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/629/are-realistic-hypothetical-situation-based-questions-permitted\">Are realistic hypothetical situation based questions permitted?</a></p>\n\n<p>So as long as the question itself fits the scope of the site, it should be fine. One reminder: it's <strong>ok to answer your own question</strong>, so if the blog provides an interesting answer, please feel free to post it as well. </p>\n" } ]
2014/02/28
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/819", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
822
<p>We all love <a href="http://academia.stackexchange.com">Academia Stack Exchange</a>, but there is a whole world of people out there who need answers to their questions and don't even know that this site exists. When they arrive from Google, what will their first impression be? Let's try to look at this site through the eyes of someone who's never seen it before, and see how we stack up against the rest of the 'Net.</p> <p>The <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/site-eval">Site Self-Evaluation review queue</a> is open and populated with 10 questions that were asked and answered in the last quarter. Run a few Google searches to see how easy they are to find and compare the answers we have with the information available on other sites.</p> <p>Rating the questions is only a part of the puzzle, though. Do you see a pattern of questions that should have been closed but are not? Questions or answers that could use an edit? Anything that's going really well? <strong>Post an answer below to share your thoughts</strong> and discuss these questions and the site's health with your fellow users!</p>
[ { "answer_id": 831, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In general, I like shape of Academia.SE. And I am still being surprised, that with so many subjective questions, this site is a nice resource.</p>\n\n<p>However, in my personal opinion:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Too much of life-story/life-choices/coaching/etc\n\n<ul>\n<li>often associated with <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/personal-advice\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;personal-advice&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">personal-advice</a>) - just please, no (I understand that newcomers may treat SE as a forum, but it is our job to help them shaping their issues into questions which work well in SE system)</li>\n<li>quote: <code>In this site I have seen questions that sound like \"what should I do with my career\" with little or no \"question-ness\".</code> (@Thanatos)</li>\n<li>examples:\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17576/should-a-ph-d-be-done-with-a-low-h-indexed-professor\">Should a Ph.D. be done with a low h-indexed professor</a> (typical, not particularly bad)</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17775/going-to-gap-a-year-before-reapplying-for-cs-phd-any-advice\">https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17775/going-to-gap-a-year-before-reapplying-for-cs-phd-any-advice</a> (a typical bad one)</li>\n</ul></li>\n<li>why it is a problem?\n\n<ul>\n<li>hard to generalize,</li>\n<li>hard to answer (as there are many treads, which is the one most important to the OP?),</li>\n<li>hard to compare answers,</li>\n<li>not much re-use value,</li>\n<li>even hard to read the original question,</li>\n<li>it is harder to find answer (as someone can ask question with the same title, but different - background)</li>\n</ul></li>\n</ul></li>\n<li>Too much of <em>soft</em> answers\n\n<ul>\n<li>I mean, if someone asks a question about chances of being admitted\nsomewhere (or anything else) I think that we, as the community,\nshould put more value on at least trying to use any data, objective\nreferences, links to other materials, etc. Sure, sometimes answer is\n\"yes\" (or \"no\"), which is obvious for any insider; but it many cases\nit isn't.</li>\n<li>example:\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17694/\">Is it more difficult to score a Tenure Track position in the US when applying from outside?</a> (answer is fine, but without any data or third-party insight it may be \"calming, yet uninformative\")</li>\n</ul></li>\n</ul></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>IMHO we should have much stricter comments and moderation for questions:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>capturing one's life story,</li>\n<li>asking a few questions at the same time,</li>\n<li>too long (IMHO they can be as long as one wishes, but the question, or the overview, should in in the first paragraphs).</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>And for answers (just comment-bugging may suffice), when:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>it seems that some data, research papers or essays can be linked,</li>\n<li>the answer seems to be specific for a given region or discipline. </li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>(And less strict for the comments :).)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 847, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 2, "selected": true, "text": "<h1>Final Results</h1>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16076/potential-post-doc-supervisor-visit-should-i-give-a-talk-or-just-have-a-meeting\">Potential Post-Doc supervisor visit: should I give a talk or just have a meeting?</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 19</strong> (Excellent: 19, Satisfactory: 7, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15596/retrieving-the-references-in-a-publication-automatically\">Retrieving the references in a publication automatically</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 16</strong> (Excellent: 16, Satisfactory: 10, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15930/could-i-change-part-of-my-paper-after-acceptance\">Could I change part of my paper after acceptance</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 13</strong> (Excellent: 14, Satisfactory: 11, Needs Improvement: 1)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15700/should-each-chapter-in-an-extensive-paper-start-with-an-overview-of-the-chapter\">Should each chapter in an extensive paper start with an overview of the chapter&#39;s contents?</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 13</strong> (Excellent: 13, Satisfactory: 12, Needs Improvement: 0)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16256/can-a-literature-review-be-a-masters-thesis\">Can a literature review be a &quot;master&#39;s thesis&quot;?</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 9</strong> (Excellent: 10, Satisfactory: 16, Needs Improvement: 1)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15978/travel-grant-for-summer-conference-between-phd-and-first-job\">Travel grant for summer conference between PhD and first job?</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: 3</strong> (Excellent: 6, Satisfactory: 15, Needs Improvement: 3)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15316/what-options-does-college-dropout-with-great-grades-research-projects-and-cv-ha\">What options does college dropout with great grades, research projects and CV have to return to university (or thinktanks)?</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: -1</strong> (Excellent: 7, Satisfactory: 11, Needs Improvement: 8)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16250/online-tool-for-receiving-student-files\">Online tool for receiving student files</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: -1</strong> (Excellent: 3, Satisfactory: 18, Needs Improvement: 4)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16108/are-professional-body-certificates-any-helpful-in-getting-into-academia-if-i-do\">Are professional body certificates any helpful in getting into academia (if I don&#39;t have any undergraduate education)?</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: -2</strong> (Excellent: 7, Satisfactory: 10, Needs Improvement: 9)</p>\n<hr />\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16141/best-ways-to-obtain-a-scholarship-for-a-masters-in-financial-mathematics-quanti\">Best ways to obtain a scholarship for a Masters in financial mathematics/ quantitative finance</a></li>\n</ul>\n<p><strong>Net Score: -9</strong> (Excellent: 1, Satisfactory: 12, Needs Improvement: 10)</p>\n<hr />\n" } ]
2014/03/02
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/822", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
823
<p>I am confused by the instructions about <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/editing">editing</a></p> <blockquote> <p>Edits are expected to be substantial and to leave the post better than you found it. Common reasons for edits include: To fix grammar and spelling mistakes ...</p> </blockquote> <p>This seems to be a little contradictory to me. Is correcting a couple of typo like misspellings "substantial". In particularly, I am curious because of the edits made to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/posts/16976/revisions">https://academia.stackexchange.com/posts/16976/revisions</a>. The first edit was by a high rep user and fixed a single typo in the question title by adding a character. The second edit was by a new user and changed an American English spelling to British English and fixed two typos by changing a single letter in each case.</p> <p>How do we fell about seemingly minor edits of these types?</p>
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2014/03/04
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/823", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929/" ]
834
<p>I have recently noticed a trend in the answers on academia.se to question the situation about which OP is asking because <em>not every single detail</em> is provided, instead of answering what is being asked.</p> <p>Most recent examples from a few days ago include:</p> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/17739/4249">Should professors intervene if a student is wearing offensive clothing in their classroom?</a></p> <ul> <li>The question asks what to do about <em>clearly offensive clothing</em> worn to class as a TA or other person of authority</li> <li>Some answers, instead of answering, argue that the OP is easily offended, or that what was offending to her is not offending in general</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/17658/4249">Is it ethical to apply different criteria for graduate admissions based on country of undergraduate study?</a></p> <ul> <li>The question is asking if it is ethical to design admission criteria according to a certain statistics their research revealed (it is a bit of a controversial admission criteria). (<a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/17771/4249">example</a>)</li> <li>Instead of answering, some answers were suggesting that the statistics and the research they did must have been wrong and the results are not valid. (<a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/17675/4249">example</a>)</li> </ul> <p>These are just two more recent examples. I know when I was asking a question lately, I was sure to cover all my bases (e.g. explicating that everything was done ethically and in good will) to avoid answers questioning my motives and methods, since I saw this kind of non-answers prevail and even be the most-upvoted answers often.</p> <p>I understand that questions asking clearly unethical things, such as <strong>How do I best cheat on the admission process</strong>, or something similar, should not be answered, but this is not the case I am talking about.</p> <p>One other thing is that people say "if you do not want to disclose the details, there is something wrong or unethical in your methodology, <em>because you don't want to disclose the details</em>." I understand the need for anonymity, or the wish to generalize, so I don't think this is a good trend</p> <p>While some of the opinions might be valid <em>in case the OP really made a mistake</em>, those kind of answers still do not answer the question actually asked, and it is not our place to question the facts presented.</p> <p>Yet, the community seems not to be condemning those kind of answers very strong: neither of the examples I linked to has negative score (one has a positive one!), even thou, (and, please, correct me if I'm wrong), <em>they do not actually answer the question</em>.</p> <p><strong>Do we really want to collect such answers?</strong></p> <p>And, as a secondary questions, <strong>what do we want to do with such answers that already exist?</strong> Should we flag-delete them? We could wait for the down-votes to push them sufficiently down, but especially on a bit controversial questions, those answers seem to get support from part of the community because of their attitude towards the controversial issue in question, and not because they actually offer an answer.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 835, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Answers questioning the question are ultimately non-constructive.</p>\n\n<p>Such things should be dealt with on of the following, instead of posting answer:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>comments under question if someone asks for more details,</li>\n<li>down votes,</li>\n<li>close votes.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>One of powers of StackExchange is that is is <em>not</em> a forum.</p>\n\n<p>However, I remember some questions when the correct answer was that someone is interpreting situation incorrectly. (But it is rather an exception than rule.)</p>\n\n<p>And what we should do with such answers?</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>If it is \"not even an answer\" then should comment suggesting posting it as a comment to question (and delete the answer).</li>\n<li>If it has parts of an answer (just plays down the importance of issue, or anything) - do as with any other answer we think that adds negative net value: downvote (it's better to stay democratic here). </li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>(A separate issue, perhaps worth a different question on <strong>meta</strong>, is whenever to provide direct examples. In some cases, for example the \"clearly offensive clothing\" it might cut some idle discussion (though, I would advice to use <em>different</em> example of a similar calibre, for the sake of anonymousness). For example in question <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17815/what-to-do-if-assignment-is-against-students-religion\">What to do if assignment is against student&#39;s religion?</a> an example helps in avoiding \"guessing game\".)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 836, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 6, "selected": true, "text": "<p>A fundamental rule of flags is: <strong>flags are NOT to be used to delete <em>incorrect</em> or <em>bad</em> answers.</strong></p>\n\n<p>That is, if there is an actual attempt to engage the question, you cannot ask the mods to delete the question just because you think it is inaccurate, gives bad advice, or challenges the assumptions in the question instead of accepting them as fact. </p>\n\n<p>The correct way to express your displeasure with such a question is <strong>to downvote it.</strong></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 837, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think commenting and downvoting are probably the best options here. I suspect flags will be ignored for the reasons @aeismail mentions. The problem is that the \"community\" (defined as readers who vote) appear to have conflicting views on the matter, and what you're asking about is a form of minority protection that SE doesn't really have a mechanism for. </p>\n\n<p>But I know that I read comments very carefully, and that I'd be influenced by comments pointing out that the answer is not answering the question as stated. I tend to be less likely to downvote (and I'm not sure why), and maybe that's part of the problem.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 841, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>As one of my <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17658/is-it-ethical-to-apply-different-criteria-for-graduate-admissions-based-on-count/17675#17675\">answers</a> was pulled out as an example, I think I should chime in here. Let me start by saying I think this is an important question and needs to be discussed. Further, to be clear, I do not feel attacked, singled out, or defensive. I think that the highlighted answer is a good example of the issue.</p>\n\n<p>The issues with these types of answers is that the person writing the answer may be convinced that they are not denying the situation and think they are providing a helpful answer. The votes on answers like these are not particularly meaningful. As you say, </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>those answers seem to get support from part of the community because of their attitude towards the controversial issue in question</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>but I would also claim they get down votes because of the controversial issue in the question. Flagging the question doesn't generally work since most answerers will not see the flag. It also doesn't provide a place for discussion and puts mods/high rep users in a difficult situation. It seems to me that the comments to the answer and/or chat (and possibly meta) is the place to discuss and figure out what is going on. It might be informative to go back to my answer to see how I thought about it.</p>\n\n<p>The title of the question is:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Is it ethical to apply different criteria for graduate admissions based on country of undergraduate study?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>The only statement within the body of the original question (and current version) with a question mark is </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Is it fair to apply different criteria to students from different countries in admissions decisions?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I think that the number of up votes on the question suggest it is an important question for our site. Despite my up vote for the question, I don't think the question is a particularly good fit for the SE format since the question \"is X ethical/fair\" is essentially a yes/no question and providing an evidence based answer is difficult. I think this is confirmed by the number and variety of answers as well as the up votes and down votes of the answers.</p>\n\n<p>Moving on to my answer and the \"charge\" levied against it:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Instead of answering, some answers were suggesting that the statistics and the research they did must have been wrong and the results are not valid.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>We need to first decide if I answered the question. My first sentence could (and probably should) be reworded to be</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I would argue that you are using the results in an unethical and discriminatory way because you are interpreting your data incorrectly</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>That seems to me to be a pretty clear answering of the question. I answered \"No, it is not ethical\". I then tried to provide reasoning for why I answered the way I did. My answer is not particularly great in that there is little evidence to support my claim. I don't want to clarify/defend my answer here as it is too far removed from the answer itself, but I am happy to continue to clarify/defend my answer in either the comments to the answer or in chat. At the heart of my reasoning is that based on the original question, the edits to the question, the comments, and my chat discussion with the OP suggests that the classic mistake of interpreting correlation as causation is being made. I tried very hard in my answer to not claim that the statistics were wrong, but purely focused on the interpretation. In summary, I disagree with both claims about my answer (not answering the question and denying the situation).</p>\n\n<p>Currently the answer has 3 down votes and three people made \"negative\" comments prior to the last down vote being cast. From the negative comments it is clear that my answer is confusing to people and could use an edit. The up votes (and one positive comment) suggest to me that some people see the value in my answer. Based on the mixed feedback, I would normally edit my answer to try and improve it. In this case, I feel it is better to leave it be at least for a while so that this discussion about the issue of answers that miss/deny the point can be addressed.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 846, "author": "Hal", "author_id": 9263, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/9263", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>IMO, this is a species of a more general problem on discussion forums. Members too often want to contribute when they don't have anything to contribute. Those members often write posts that either,</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>tell the OP that they should not give too much thought to their concern,</li>\n<li>tell the OP that they should go about things an entirely different way that happens to render the question moot,</li>\n<li>tell the OP that they're wrong about a subjective matter, or</li>\n<li>question the OP's reasons for wanting to do what they want to do.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>In any case, these replies suck. We should ban them. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 865, "author": "Wakem", "author_id": 10739, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10739", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think you have to be careful to not eliminate the best possible response to some questions. Many times the best response to a question is simply not an answer (or JUST an answer). For example, if someone asks for the best way for a high school freshman to break into math research, the best response must at least include some sort of serious challenge to the OP (whether or not it gives the most plausible way for the freshman to break into research). This is an extreme example, but in general many responses should challenge the assumptions of the OP, while also giving an answer. Because these are often human matters that are extremely emotionally charged, it is important to challenge the OP if they are in false dichotomous thinking, for example. But in almost every case I think this should be accompanied by an ANSWER, GIVEN THE ASSUMPTIONS OF THE OP. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 3297, "author": "Wetlab Walter", "author_id": 28355, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/28355", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The behaviours you are seeing of <em>questioning the question</em> is due to the enormous prevalence of X-Y questions in the original StackOverflow and other STEM StackExchange sites. Questions where the thread is \"how do I do X\", but experienced users see that the OP has a more fundamental misunderstanding, and should really be doing Y. The SO model is so popular because follow-up comments let us determine the true nature of the OPs intent, get to the bottom of the question, and answers can either target the question-as-asked, or the OPs fundamental issue if it deviates. <strong>This is a good thing.</strong> Answering all questions at face-value is not helpful -- otherwise why was the OJ Simpson thread closed?</p>\n" } ]
2014/03/06
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/834", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/4249/" ]
838
<p>I am currently a sophomore, but just looking for some statistics on graduate school admissions, and if possible chances tailored to my own statistics.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 835, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Answers questioning the question are ultimately non-constructive.</p>\n\n<p>Such things should be dealt with on of the following, instead of posting answer:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>comments under question if someone asks for more details,</li>\n<li>down votes,</li>\n<li>close votes.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>One of powers of StackExchange is that is is <em>not</em> a forum.</p>\n\n<p>However, I remember some questions when the correct answer was that someone is interpreting situation incorrectly. (But it is rather an exception than rule.)</p>\n\n<p>And what we should do with such answers?</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>If it is \"not even an answer\" then should comment suggesting posting it as a comment to question (and delete the answer).</li>\n<li>If it has parts of an answer (just plays down the importance of issue, or anything) - do as with any other answer we think that adds negative net value: downvote (it's better to stay democratic here). </li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>(A separate issue, perhaps worth a different question on <strong>meta</strong>, is whenever to provide direct examples. In some cases, for example the \"clearly offensive clothing\" it might cut some idle discussion (though, I would advice to use <em>different</em> example of a similar calibre, for the sake of anonymousness). For example in question <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17815/what-to-do-if-assignment-is-against-students-religion\">What to do if assignment is against student&#39;s religion?</a> an example helps in avoiding \"guessing game\".)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 836, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 6, "selected": true, "text": "<p>A fundamental rule of flags is: <strong>flags are NOT to be used to delete <em>incorrect</em> or <em>bad</em> answers.</strong></p>\n\n<p>That is, if there is an actual attempt to engage the question, you cannot ask the mods to delete the question just because you think it is inaccurate, gives bad advice, or challenges the assumptions in the question instead of accepting them as fact. </p>\n\n<p>The correct way to express your displeasure with such a question is <strong>to downvote it.</strong></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 837, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think commenting and downvoting are probably the best options here. I suspect flags will be ignored for the reasons @aeismail mentions. The problem is that the \"community\" (defined as readers who vote) appear to have conflicting views on the matter, and what you're asking about is a form of minority protection that SE doesn't really have a mechanism for. </p>\n\n<p>But I know that I read comments very carefully, and that I'd be influenced by comments pointing out that the answer is not answering the question as stated. I tend to be less likely to downvote (and I'm not sure why), and maybe that's part of the problem.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 841, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>As one of my <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17658/is-it-ethical-to-apply-different-criteria-for-graduate-admissions-based-on-count/17675#17675\">answers</a> was pulled out as an example, I think I should chime in here. Let me start by saying I think this is an important question and needs to be discussed. Further, to be clear, I do not feel attacked, singled out, or defensive. I think that the highlighted answer is a good example of the issue.</p>\n\n<p>The issues with these types of answers is that the person writing the answer may be convinced that they are not denying the situation and think they are providing a helpful answer. The votes on answers like these are not particularly meaningful. As you say, </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>those answers seem to get support from part of the community because of their attitude towards the controversial issue in question</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>but I would also claim they get down votes because of the controversial issue in the question. Flagging the question doesn't generally work since most answerers will not see the flag. It also doesn't provide a place for discussion and puts mods/high rep users in a difficult situation. It seems to me that the comments to the answer and/or chat (and possibly meta) is the place to discuss and figure out what is going on. It might be informative to go back to my answer to see how I thought about it.</p>\n\n<p>The title of the question is:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Is it ethical to apply different criteria for graduate admissions based on country of undergraduate study?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>The only statement within the body of the original question (and current version) with a question mark is </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Is it fair to apply different criteria to students from different countries in admissions decisions?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I think that the number of up votes on the question suggest it is an important question for our site. Despite my up vote for the question, I don't think the question is a particularly good fit for the SE format since the question \"is X ethical/fair\" is essentially a yes/no question and providing an evidence based answer is difficult. I think this is confirmed by the number and variety of answers as well as the up votes and down votes of the answers.</p>\n\n<p>Moving on to my answer and the \"charge\" levied against it:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Instead of answering, some answers were suggesting that the statistics and the research they did must have been wrong and the results are not valid.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>We need to first decide if I answered the question. My first sentence could (and probably should) be reworded to be</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I would argue that you are using the results in an unethical and discriminatory way because you are interpreting your data incorrectly</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>That seems to me to be a pretty clear answering of the question. I answered \"No, it is not ethical\". I then tried to provide reasoning for why I answered the way I did. My answer is not particularly great in that there is little evidence to support my claim. I don't want to clarify/defend my answer here as it is too far removed from the answer itself, but I am happy to continue to clarify/defend my answer in either the comments to the answer or in chat. At the heart of my reasoning is that based on the original question, the edits to the question, the comments, and my chat discussion with the OP suggests that the classic mistake of interpreting correlation as causation is being made. I tried very hard in my answer to not claim that the statistics were wrong, but purely focused on the interpretation. In summary, I disagree with both claims about my answer (not answering the question and denying the situation).</p>\n\n<p>Currently the answer has 3 down votes and three people made \"negative\" comments prior to the last down vote being cast. From the negative comments it is clear that my answer is confusing to people and could use an edit. The up votes (and one positive comment) suggest to me that some people see the value in my answer. Based on the mixed feedback, I would normally edit my answer to try and improve it. In this case, I feel it is better to leave it be at least for a while so that this discussion about the issue of answers that miss/deny the point can be addressed.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 846, "author": "Hal", "author_id": 9263, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/9263", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>IMO, this is a species of a more general problem on discussion forums. Members too often want to contribute when they don't have anything to contribute. Those members often write posts that either,</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>tell the OP that they should not give too much thought to their concern,</li>\n<li>tell the OP that they should go about things an entirely different way that happens to render the question moot,</li>\n<li>tell the OP that they're wrong about a subjective matter, or</li>\n<li>question the OP's reasons for wanting to do what they want to do.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>In any case, these replies suck. We should ban them. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 865, "author": "Wakem", "author_id": 10739, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10739", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think you have to be careful to not eliminate the best possible response to some questions. Many times the best response to a question is simply not an answer (or JUST an answer). For example, if someone asks for the best way for a high school freshman to break into math research, the best response must at least include some sort of serious challenge to the OP (whether or not it gives the most plausible way for the freshman to break into research). This is an extreme example, but in general many responses should challenge the assumptions of the OP, while also giving an answer. Because these are often human matters that are extremely emotionally charged, it is important to challenge the OP if they are in false dichotomous thinking, for example. But in almost every case I think this should be accompanied by an ANSWER, GIVEN THE ASSUMPTIONS OF THE OP. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 3297, "author": "Wetlab Walter", "author_id": 28355, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/28355", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The behaviours you are seeing of <em>questioning the question</em> is due to the enormous prevalence of X-Y questions in the original StackOverflow and other STEM StackExchange sites. Questions where the thread is \"how do I do X\", but experienced users see that the OP has a more fundamental misunderstanding, and should really be doing Y. The SO model is so popular because follow-up comments let us determine the true nature of the OPs intent, get to the bottom of the question, and answers can either target the question-as-asked, or the OPs fundamental issue if it deviates. <strong>This is a good thing.</strong> Answering all questions at face-value is not helpful -- otherwise why was the OJ Simpson thread closed?</p>\n" } ]
2014/03/07
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/838", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/12655/" ]
842
<p>As I already mentioned, <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/831/49">some questions provide too much detail</a>, making it a multi-thread open-ended requests for life advice.</p> <p>However, in some cases the question lack enough details, and people are confused or ask for more details. Especially things dealing with social relations, norms, ethics, etc: levels of sensitivity varies by persons, laws varies by countries, different people have different first- or second-hand experiences, etc.</p> <p>I am clueless when I see <code>offensive</code>, <code>inappropriate</code>, etc. So do many other readers, what end up in long comment ping-pong, people questioning if the issue is serious enough to call it. Or maybe actually OP downplays it and the behavior is not "a bit inappropriate" but deserves "Don't walk. Run." or legal actions? </p> <p>For example, compare</p> <blockquote> <p>What to do if advisor, when talking with me, holds my arm and I feel uncomfortable?</p> </blockquote> <p>with </p> <blockquote> <p>What to do if advisor, when talking with me, behaves inappropriately and I feel uncomfortable?</p> </blockquote> <p>The first will start an idle discussion. The second won't.</p> <p>Let us remember that Academia.SE has way more subjective questions than StackOverflow (or, say, MathOverflow). And the SE system works the best for clear, answerable questions. StackOverflow won't work with:</p> <blockquote> <p>this library gives undesirable results, but let me not go into details.</p> </blockquote> <p>The only exception I can foresee is privacy (but, I guess, more than often a <em>different but of similar calibre</em> example can be given). Otherwise explicit situations or verbatim phrases are the best (with, possibly placeholders to mask obscene words).</p> <p>And as examples, questions which without explicit examples would end in guessing games (but, as they are, attracted good answers):</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17815/what-to-do-if-assignment-is-against-students-religion">What to do if assignment is against student&#39;s religion?</a></li> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17781/why-many-talented-scientists-write-horrible-software">Why do many talented scientists write horrible software?</a></li> </ul> <p>This meta question was started because of <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17739/should-professors-intervene-if-a-student-is-wearing-offensive-clothing-in-their">Should professors intervene if a student is wearing offensive clothing in their classroom?</a> and being a sort-of follow-up of <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/834/people-denying-the-situation-in-the-questions-instead-of-answering">People denying the situation in the questions instead of answering</a>.</p> <p>In any case, IMHO, the most important factor is not my feeling about providing examples, but:</p> <ul> <li>it is clear what is the question?</li> <li>do they attract good answers?</li> <li>do they minimize overhead (in people asking comments)?</li> </ul> <p>What do you think?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 843, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Question posters should provide as much useful detail <strong>as they feel comfortable sharing</strong>. If people are posting anonymously or via a pseudonym, then they would like to maintain at least some level of privacy and confidentiality. The more details you reveal, the easier it is for others to piece together exactly who you are and who you're complaining about. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 844, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think that examples in potentially subjective questions <em>encourage people to pass judgment on the examples</em>. </p>\n\n<p>If the question is one that asks people to pass judgment on the examples (\"Is <em>this</em> kind of thing acceptable?\") then giving an example of <em>this</em> is constructive. </p>\n\n<p>If the question is \"What should I do, given <em>this</em>?\", then the example can become a distraction.</p>\n\n<p>In <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17739/should-professors-intervene-if-a-student-is-wearing-offensive-clothing-in-their\">Should professors intervene if a student is wearing offensive clothing in their classroom</a>, I felt strongly about not giving the specific slogan not because of anonymity, but because I thought</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>some people might feel upset reading it (even in the context of an illustration), and </li>\n<li>a few people might post things like \"What's the big deal, that shirt is funny and you ladies should lighten up!\" which would also upset readers.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>I considered adding a link to the shirt in question (so as not to post the objectionable content on academia.SE directly) but even that seemed not constructive to me.</p>\n\n<p>I think my characterization of the slogan in question as \"indubitably demeaning and hostile towards women\" was specific enough to answer the question, and indeed this question did get quite a few high-quality answers.</p>\n\n<p>In any event, we got comments like:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>AFAIK, mysogynic ideas came only from old, embittered thinkers, and are unlikely to be seen on someone's T-Shirt</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>and even a comment:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Without the content of the slogan in question, anyone attempting to make any judgement on said slogan is left chasing gremlins</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>The question didn't ask anyone to make a judgment on the slogan! Comments like these make me suspect that posting the slogan (or a specific example of one) would lead to people passing judgment on the offensiveness of the slogan, which isn't what the question was about.</p>\n\n<p>In the other questions you mention, the example is unlikely to upset anyone reading it, so there is less of a downside to posting one (if the asker wants to). However, examples still lead to people passing judgment on the example . </p>\n\n<p>For example, in <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17815/what-to-do-if-assignment-is-against-students-religion\">What to do if an assignment is against student's religion</a>, we had an answer that said: </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Refusing to draw the human figure = ignorance and superstition. Avoiding listening to or playing music = ignorance and superstition.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>And a comment:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>How is music \"bad\" or \"haram\" is beyond me. Violent music could still be considered \"haram\" or even avoidable. But how do you justify neutral music by Beethoven as \"haram\" ? </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>both of which constitute nonconstructive judgment.</p>\n" } ]
2014/03/07
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/842", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49/" ]
850
<p>There seems to be some disagreement about whether professional non-research degree programs (law, business, medicine) and entry into such programs is on-topic.</p> <p>One the one hand, in a comment on <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/18055/york-undergraduate-student-looking-to-get-into-medical-school">York Undergraduate student looking to get into medical school?</a> (on hold):</p> <blockquote> <p>Moreover, questions related to professional schools are also generally considered off-topic (unless they're related to research-driven degrees, or looking to pursue an academic career—an MD-PhD program, for instance)</p> </blockquote> <p>and </p> <blockquote> <p>the point of the restriction is to avoid having the board overrun with pre-med/pre-law/pre-business questions (which is decidedly not what this site is about). </p> </blockquote> <p>Then the opposite view on <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/1010/what-preparatory-steps-should-i-be-taking-for-admission-into-med-school/">What preparatory steps should I be taking for admission into med school?</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>This is a straightforward question about admission to a post-graduate academic program; I think it's perfectly in scope.</p> </blockquote> <p>I also believe the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic">help-center</a> text, which refers to "professional students," can be interpreted to include professional law, medicine, and business degrees (and others like them). If the consensus is that such questions are not in scope, perhaps this text should be clarified to unambiguously exclude questions about professional graduate-level degree programs.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 851, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think the cited question should be closed for being too localized, but NOT for being about med school. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 852, "author": "Pete L. Clark", "author_id": 938, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/938", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In the help center, the first question is \"What topics can I ask about here?\" and the first sentence of the answer is</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This site is for academics of all levels—from aspiring graduate and professional students to senior researchers—as well as anyone in or interested in research-related or research-adjacent fields. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>To me this is unambiguous: questions coming from aspiring professional students are on-topic. </p>\n\n<p>If the site consensus has moved away from the acceptability of these questions, then it has moved pretty far, and some kind of referendum may be in order to make a policy change at this basic level.</p>\n\n<p>I have several comments:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li><p>The site is really not overrun with questions from professional students. On the contrary they seem to come up quite rarely. (This is not really surprising because the entire SE community is strongly tilted towards CS, math and other STEM types. What percentage of questions asked here specifically concern the humanities: 10%? Less?)</p>\n\n<p><strong>Added</strong>: It is good for theoreticians to try their hands at experiments now and then, so I searched for \"medical school\" (in quotes) on the main site and got 5 matches. By way of comparison, I searched for \"HCI\" (i.e., Human Computer Interaction, a fairly narrow academic subfield that I had not even heard of until I arrived at this site): 30 matches. I am convinced that we are not overrun with questions about medical school.</p></li>\n<li><p>The sentence could be more clear that undergraduate level questions are excluded. Do undergraduate students not comprise part of \"academics of all levels\"? And technically any undergraduate could be an \"aspiring graduate or professional student\".</p></li>\n<li><p>The use of the word \"research\" and \"researcher\" in the sentence confuses me. It does not seem even approximately synonymous with \"academic\" because (i) reseachers can work in industry or for the government or for themselves or be unemployed, whereas academics work in an academy, and (ii) academics do a range of research, teaching, service and administration, the mixture of which varies wildly from job to job. Probably the majority of Americans who self-identify as \"academics\" are not spending a significant amount of their professional life on research. Questions about university-level teaching are among the ones which are being migrated and otherwise directed here from content-area sites in the highest volume, so it would be nice to see some word like \"pedagogy\" appear even more prominently in the answer to this question: it does get its own bullet point, but the word \"research\" is repeated again and again, even to the extent of \"research department\", which is a strange term to my ear.</p></li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>I am also surprised that the word \"faculty\" does not appear. In general the relatively low percentage of involvement from university faculty seems to be one of the elephants in this particular room...but I had better not try to get into this here.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 853, "author": "Nobody", "author_id": 546, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/546", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think professioal students include law and medical students. However, I'd like point out that this is somewhat location dependent.</p>\n\n<p>For example, medical school and law school students in Taiwan have to pass the very same college entrance exam as other undergraduate students when they enter law/medical school. They stay in the school longer time (medical school is 7 years) to get different degrees when they graduate.</p>\n\n<p>If those students ask questions about the issues they encounter in school, do we say those are undergraduate related questions or graduate school related questions?</p>\n\n<p>I am concerned that we do not have enough experts to answer the medical/law school related questions when they come up. This is more or less chicken and egg problem. Those experts will not visit us if they have nothing to do with the Q&amp;As on our site. Law school/medical school people will not ask questions if they will not get good answers.</p>\n" } ]
2014/03/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/850", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
855
<p>We currently have 76 questions tagged <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research-undergraduate" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;research-undergraduate&#39;" rel="tag">research-undergraduate</a>. By the definition of the site scope, either:</p> <ol> <li>these questions are about research that's not applicable to postgrad students and academic staff, in which case they should be closed and deleted; or</li> <li>they are applicable to postgrad students and academic staff, in which case they are about <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;research&#39;" rel="tag">research</a></li> </ol> <p><strong>Either way, the research-undergraduate tag is irrelevant</strong>. So <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags/research/synonyms">I've proposed making it a synonym of research</a>.</p> <p>So, I'd welcome your contributions to voting on that syonym: but I'd also welcome discussion of whether this synonym is appropriate. <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/q/666/96">We have discussed undergraduate research here previously</a>, and the top-voted answer says: </p> <blockquote> <p>if it's a question a PhD student (or higher) could reasonably ask. If so, then it's appropriate</p> </blockquote>
[ { "answer_id": 858, "author": "Pete L. Clark", "author_id": 938, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/938", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I certainly agree that \"undergraduate research\" is a subset of \"research\". But \"research\" is so broad -- it seems to apply to maybe 1/3 of all questions asked on this site -- that narrowing it would be helpful.</p>\n\n<p>The vast majority of undergraduate research is supervised by a graduate student or a faculty member. This seems to make undergraduate research squarely on-topic for this site in the same way as undergraduate teaching questions certainly are. In that supervising undergraduate research has many issues distinct from supervising other research, it seems appropriate to have a separate tag for it. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 863, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I agree with Pete that the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research</a> is very broad and that splitting it into \"sub tags\" could be helpful. That said, I am not sure what <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research-undergraduate\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research-undergraduate&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research-undergraduate</a> would be. Potentially better would be a set of tags like <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research-supervison\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research-supervison&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research-supervison</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research-advisor\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research-advisor&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research-advisor</a>, and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research-funding\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research-funding&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research-funding</a>.</p>\n" } ]
2014/03/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/855", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96/" ]
866
<p>We've recently had a few questions that say, "Does anyone know of a degree program that meets requirements X,Y,Z."</p> <p>For example, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/18289/where-can-i-take-online-mba-courses-without-being-admitted">Where can I take online MBA courses without being admitted?</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Next year I will enroll in a full time MBA program. Until then, I would like to take transferable online courses to count towards my degree. I talked with admissions, and they will accept up to 6 credits from an AACSB accredited school. Unfortunately, I cannot find a university that offers individual online MBA courses. Does anyone here have suggestions?</p> </blockquote> <p>Or <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/18283/cheapest-online-degrees">Cheapest online degrees</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>What are the cheapest online degrees in Computer Science? </p> </blockquote> <p>Or <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17667/what-is-the-best-way-to-choose-an-mba-school-for-someone-in-lighting-industry">What is the best way to choose an MBA school for someone in lighting industry?</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Is there a university MBA programme featured with lighting industry? Or is it just famous for global marketing/management?</p> </blockquote> <p>It is my feeling that these questions are off-topic, but I don't see a lot of consistency in the reason given for closure, and they sometimes end up being closed for tangential reasons. (In these three examples: "This question appears to be off-topic because it is not about academia," "Questions about problems facing undergraduate students are off-topic," and not closed, respectively).</p> <p>Are questions in this category off-topic, and if so, is there a canonical reason for closing questions in this category?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 867, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Such questions are usually poor fits, but there's not a single canonical reason to reject. For instance, they might be <strong>too specific,</strong> so that they're not applicable to other users or <strong>focused on purely undergraduate institutions</strong>. In both of those cases, the specific reasons listed should be cited as grounds for closing. However, otherwise, it's because list-based questions are a poor fit for the site.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 871, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 3, "selected": true, "text": "<p>2/3 don't from our <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/about\">About</a> page:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Don't ask about: [...]</p>\n \n <ul>\n <li>Questions that are primarily opinion-based</li>\n <li>Questions with too many possible answers or that would require an extremely long answer.</li>\n </ul>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Questions asking about best department to study a given field fell into both. In terms of close votes it is <strong>too broad</strong> or <strong>primarily opinion-based</strong>.</p>\n\n<p>For more general reading, <a href=\"http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/01/real-questions-have-answers/\">Real Questions Have Answers</a> from the StackExchange blog. In particular, polling questions are not seen well.</p>\n\n<p>Also, for recommendations (or even queries - i.e. when there is a list of objective answers, given a set of restrictions), in general it is tricky - see <a href=\"https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1491/what-should-be-done-with-questions-asking-for-game-recommendations/\">What should be done with questions asking for game recommendations? - Gaming.SE aka Arqade</a>:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <ul>\n <li>Close all game-recs unconditionally as shopping recommendation: 74</li>\n <li>Allow game-recs that are specific enough (withdrawn): 70</li>\n <li>Only allow game-recs with accessibility constraints: 42</li>\n <li>Unconditionally allow them: 41</li>\n </ul>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>(That is, initial policy, <em>Close all game-recs unconditionally as shopping recommendation</em>, <a href=\"https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1493/12106\">has been withdrawn</a>.)</p>\n\n<p>However (IMHO), we should allow questions asking for how to search or ones where there answers are meta (pieces of advice on the search, links to listings/rankings/etc), e.g.:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/10688/\">How to search for graduate schools that have Masters in Complexity Science/Complex Systems?</a> </li>\n</ul>\n" } ]
2014/03/20
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<p>I tried to write a response to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/18491/i-believe-i-have-solved-a-famous-open-problem-how-do-i-convince-people-in-the-f">I believe I have solved a famous open problem. How do I convince people in the field that I am not a crank?</a> that mentioned an achievement of my own that I thought was much bigger than it was, and respectful empathy for referees instead of viewing them as obstacles. It was deleted, ironically enough. Did I do wrong by including a link to my website, or did I come off as a crank, or something else? There were no comments, positive or negative, and it had two upvotes before being deleted five hours after it was posted.</p> <p>I'm not sure it's my best work but I tried to have a heart to heart comment to someone dealing with being outside of the climate of opinion whether he made a legitimate discovery or was a legitimate crank. Is this kind of heart to heart (or attempt) outside the purview of academia.stackexchange.com? Was it deleted because of execution or intent, or was part of it just too strange for the person reading it?</p> <p>I made a distinction (which I invented or reinvented) in the theory of other minds as discussed in reference to the spectrum: I distinguished within theory of other minds issues between a theory of like minds (which can be described as "Other people have minds just like mine"), and a theory of alien minds (which means "Other people have minds as much as mine, but they're often different from mine."). Was the reference to "<strong>alien</strong> minds" construed as ufo stuff or the like?</p> <p>Thanks,</p>
[ { "answer_id": 875, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Your answer received multiple flags from the community indicating it as <em>\"not an answer\"</em>, and was therefore deleted by a moderator. Indeed, your answer appeared more as a long comment, empathizing with the OP, rather than as an actual answer to the question, which is \"what to do in this situation?\". </p>\n\n<p>Academia.SE is a place for questions and answers, and although your answer would have some merit on a more traditional forum, it is not really a good fit for the format here. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 878, "author": "Pete L. Clark", "author_id": 938, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/938", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I found the OP's answer to the linked question to be interesting. I didn't understand all of it, and I didn't agree with every part of it that I understood, but overall it was one of the more thoughtful and thought-provoking answers I've encountered on the site.</p>\n\n<p>I am disappointed that your answer was deleted, especially on the grounds of being \"not an answer\". Of course it was an answer! Empathizing with the OP and giving extended advice about how other people may perceive his work and indeed his mental processes in a different way from his own is a very relevant and penetrating answer. To claim that this thoughtful post was \"not an answer\" is a bit insulting to Mr. Hayward. Maybe you don't agree with it; maybe you don't even think it will be helpful to the OP (though I think it could be); okay. But to think that it is not an answer is a distressingly bad faith position to take.</p>\n\n<p>I also want to point out a nuance in Charles' answer. He wrote:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Your answer received multiple flags from the community indicating it as \"not an answer\", and was therefore deleted accordingly. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This seems ambiguous to me. An answer which gets flagged enough times <em>by the community</em> will be automatically deleted, and then it can be undeleted by community members as well. But this is not what happened here. Rather, the answer was deleted by a moderator, with the effect that no community member can vote to undelete the answer. Thus I find the description of this as a community reaction a bit disingenuous. I also don't understand or agree why moderators need to act in this way to delete content. In my opinion moderators should only delete posts which are <em>really</em> not answers, e.g. \"Buy VIAGRA at this website\". </p>\n\n<p>I am also not sure that there has been complete honesty about why the answer was deleted. So many answers on this site primarily empathize with the OP and give bigger picture information rather than specific advice. If this is done well, such answers usually get upvoted, and in fact the vote count on this deleted answer is +2/-0. When I saw the answer deleted, my guess was that it had something to do with the Mr. Hayward's reference to something on a personal webpage. I didn't find this linking practice to be inappropriate myself but the idea that it might be seems more defensible than the actual reasons given for deletion. If that is the real reason, we should get it out in the open.</p>\n" } ]
2014/03/30
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<p>There was an interesting discussion at the stats Cross Validated site about <a href="https://stats.stackexchange.com/q/92213/5739">(mis)use of statistics in academic papers</a>. I think the audience of Academia will benefit from it, but I am not sure what the best way is to link to that discussion.</p>
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2014/04/04
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<p>I’m Stéphane, senior product designer at Stack Exchange. First, I wanted to congratulate you because this site is now starting the process of moving out of beta to become a fully-graduated site! Well done!</p> <h3>Graduation and Your Site Design</h3> <p>Graduation comes with a few perks. I have already begun work on your site's design, which will give you your own unique theme that reflects your topic and culture. This will help brand your site as unique, even while you share common elements with other sites that show you are part of a bigger Stack Exchange family.</p> <p>Once the design goes up, you will receive a link in the footer of other sites in the network, along with the ability to migrate content to and from other sites — and the notoriety of a public launch that says, "Congratulations, you finally made it!"</p> <h3>Design Concept</h3> <p>For our academia.se community's site design and branding, I wanted to have a "campus life" feel. I think it's most effectively conveyed with a hand-drawn illustration style. It has a personal and lively feel to it. I've gathered some artwork I found online for setting up a mood board.</p> <h3>Mood Board</h3> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/Ff2U7.png" alt="mood"></p> <h3>Color scheme</h3> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/lm1eI.png" alt="color scheme"></p> <p>This color scheme reminds me of autumn. It's warm and inviting. Fall is also when a new academic year starts. All the pastel colors bring calm and harmony and they are lighted up by the green and the red. This way we can balance our design from calmness to more contrasted and focused area.</p> <h3>Logo</h3> <p>All the knowledge has always been passed on by books through the years, they are the origins of teaching. The idea was to evoke some books in a bookcase but in a non figurative way.</p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/t6D26.png" alt="Logo"></p> <p>I believe this modernized logo works in other mediums to promote our site as well.</p> <h3>Swag</h3> <p>Business cards / stickers / t-shirt</p> <p>Click on the image to view it at full size.</p> <p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/ZHdGb.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/ZHdGb.png" alt="swag"></a> <a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/xfOkZ.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/xfOkZ.png" alt="t shirt"></a></p> <h3>Overall site design</h3> <p>Click on the images to view them at full size.</p> <p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/KDSU6.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/KDSU6.png" alt="home"></a></p> <p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/zSLMh.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/zSLMh.png" alt="question"></a></p> <h3>Main illustration</h3> <p>Click on the image to view it at full size.</p> <p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/AIAOV.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/AIAOV.png" alt="illustration"></a></p> <p>I believe the design captures the mood I was going for. I'd love to hear your feedback. If there are no major design changes, we're hoping to launch the site soon. Thank you for being an awesome community!</p> <hr /> <h3>Edit:</h3> <p>Thank you for your valued feedback! I've changed the badges based on your answers and comments. They now are <strong>mortarboards</strong>.</p> <p>Click on the image to view it at full size. <a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/tvAWf.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/tvAWf.png" alt="Badges"></a></p> <p>Regarding the question list, I will tweak some vertical space and font size during the coding to have the most perfect rendering across browsers. </p>
[ { "answer_id": 892, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>A few comments on the design so far:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>The \"medals\" icons should perhaps be closer to mortarboards, with gold, silver, and bronze tassels. </li>\n<li>I would personally prefer a somewhat more assertive font for the main body text. </li>\n<li>Because of the abovementioned mortarboards, standard black is also an appropriate \"academic-themed\" color—as are strong \"standard\" colors (blue, red, green, yellow, purple, etc.) in the \"hoods\" awarded to master's and doctoral degree recipients.</li>\n<li>The pen nibs are a little too reminiscent of the <a href=\"http://tex.stackexchange.com\">TeX SE site</a>.</li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 893, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I find the question-page's low contrast quite tiring on the eyes. The question body text, and the \"share | edit Edited ...\" link text, aren't that comfortable to read.</p>\n\n<p>Oh, and the circle of buildings on some of the swag just looks weird.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 894, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Thanks for the design… and soliciting feedback: it's not easy, and you'll sure get lot of helpful yet contradictory advice from all around…</p>\n\n<p>So, while trying to avoid the nefarious “design by committee” effect, here's some of my “gut reaction” to the look:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Very positive first reaction: elegant, clean design… calming effect</li>\n<li>My eyes first went to the buildings. They don't shock my as <em>odd</em> or <em>foreign</em> on the site's design, but <strong>I do not associate them spontaneously with “campus” buildings</strong>. Maybe because campuses all around have very different styles, and it's hard to draw a “universally recognized campus look”.</li>\n<li>Then I looked at the logo, and title font. Love both: nice logo, I immediately saw books; almost geometric font (academia, maths, geometric drawings), yet subtly rounded.</li>\n<li>Front page is well balanced, clear focus on the questions… however, the questions lists seems somewhat unbalanced to me: I wonder what was feeling <em>weird</em> about it, but I think it's 1. <strong>the large amount of vertical white space</strong>, 2. the fact that <strong>numbers</strong> (votes and views) <strong>are so much larger that the question title</strong> itself.</li>\n<li>Question page: not much to say, looks very good. I noticed a resemblance in “up and down” pen nibs with TeX site, but it doesn't bother me at all. Maybe one thing: the style of the “accepted” mark is a bit too geometric, or it's simply too large.</li>\n<li>One final detail: the gold/silver/bronze chevrons should be bolder, as they're not very visible as it.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Thanks again for your very nice work!</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 895, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I love it! The images, the fonts, the color palette. I particularly like the hint towards books in the site logo.</p>\n\n<p>My one suggestion has to do with the medals. Not sure how the open triangle shape fits with the theme, and the thin lines make it blend in. I agree partly with what was suggested above... I think the medals should be mortarboards, similar to what is shown <a href=\"http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f393/index.htm\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">here</a>:</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/NDA1u.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>I would suggest, though, to color the entire cap gold, silver, or bronze; the small icon size does do away with details. That being said, this sort of thing did work fairly well with the android community (see their little <a href=\"https://android.stackexchange.com/users/12442/dan-hulme\">android-themed medals</a>). I think we could do something similar here.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 896, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Very small point. I think of the clock tower as a quintessential icon of university campuses and in the design it captures my vision, which is a good thing. When the sky line is presented in a circular fashion the position of the clock tower at 2:00 invokes thoughts of the Mars gender symbol for males. I would suggest rotating the skyline so that the clock tower faces a different direction, maybe 10:00.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 897, "author": "Flyto", "author_id": 8394, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/8394", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I like it a lot. Thank you!</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>I especially like the \"fallen book\" logo.</li>\n<li>I think the colour scheme, font choices and text layout work really well, but I question the way that lines that are not the first line in a bulletted list item appear to lose the indent that the first line has (does that make sense?)</li>\n<li>I don't love the buildings, but I don't hate them either. There's a risk that trying to make them too \"college campus\" risks making them too twee and \"My idealised American undergrad experience\" ;-) I like the way that the logo and links are integrated vertically with the buildings picture, either side of the tower. Will this still work in narrow browser windows? (or more to the point, will it fail gracefully?)</li>\n<li>I don't like the nibs for the upvote and downvote buttons. There's no handwriting or fountain pen motif anywhere else in the design, and it seems to reflect a view of academia that is... perhaps archaic? As well as, as somebody else mentioned, being a tad reminiscent of tex.stackexchange. I don't have any bright ideas for what to use instead, though. (<em>maybe</em> the mortarboards? Not sure... maybe just arrow in a circle, to reflect the !-inna-circle that you have in the top right for \"Community bulletins\"?)</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Thanks again for all the work :-)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 898, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Thanks for the design, it looks quite neat! Just to echo what was said in other answers: </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>I like the mortarboards a lot for the badges. </li>\n<li>The colour theme and the logo are quite nice. </li>\n<li>The buildings do not really talk to me, they do not have a particular \"academic\" feeling, and although I think the idea of representing a campus is good, the current designs are a bit too neutral. But at the same time, I don't have any better idea. </li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 899, "author": "posdef", "author_id": 5674, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/5674", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>First off, thanks a lot for the work so far, it looks pretty amazing. A few comments: </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p>Love the color scheme, I certainly see the association with autumn, and semester start. I think it's pretty cool whether it was a design criteria or something that came up after you had an working concept already. </p></li>\n<li><p>Logo: The concept with the books and the simplified representation is clean, neat and will work fine in many context, my only concern is whether or not it resembles <a href=\"https://www.google.se/search?q=Ericsson%20logo%20-sony&amp;safe=off&amp;es_sm=91&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=nCtNU5LDMcSR4ASwjIE4&amp;ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&amp;biw=1374&amp;bih=1009\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">the logo for the telecom company Ericsson</a>. Although the coloring and the orientation of the bars create enough distinction, so I suppose it's not an issue really.</p></li>\n<li><p>Logo text: I feel that the font used for 'ACADEMIA' is a bit weak when used side by side with the logo. The line height of the logo and the text is not the same, so that the text looks like the little sibling, both on height and weight. Considering that we are going with all caps I find it slightly disturbing geometrically. Maybe that's just me with my symmetry obsession. Did you consider experimenting with bolder fonts?</p></li>\n<li><p>Badges: I was going to suggest that the \"book\" resemblance with the badges wasn't really coming through, but many have already commented on it. I love the mortarboard concept! :) </p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/KDSU6.png\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">Main page</a>: I agree with the previous assessments on the votes/answers are taking too much space in comparison with the title. Otherwise it's really nice</p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/zSLMh.png\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">Question page</a>: I also agree with the criticism regarding the use of fountain pen illustrations for up/down-votes. It both resembles Tex.SE and lacks any direct connection with doing research (IMHO). Unfortunately I don't have a better suggestion at this point. I will get back to this answer, if I do come up with something.</p></li>\n<li><p>I have to mention that the general idea of a campus is a bit lost on me when I look at the main illustration. Despite being very crisp and elegant, I do not associate it with a campus, a university, or being a student/academic in any way. </p></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Maybe an illustration with some items commonly used in academia could be a better fit? Some suggestions: a blackboard, a microscope, textbooks, computers...</p>\n\n<p>Overall great stuff, looking forward to the end product :)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 900, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I have a thought regarding the up/down indicator. Since we spend most of our time grading, why not have a check mark for up, and an X for down. For an accepted answer (which used to have a check mark), we could instead use a gold star. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 910, "author": "Jeromy Anglim", "author_id": 62, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/62", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Great work. A few small suggestions:</p>\n\n<p><strong>Reduce the vertical space taken up by each question</strong> on question listing pages. It seems that currently (24th April 2014; only about half the number of questions can fit on the screen as beta sites or stack overflow. Perhaps the vertical white space could be dramatically reduced. This is important when you want to quickly scan questions.</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/MhvlN.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"> <img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/fgMAF.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p><strong>Increase contrast in between followed and not followed links</strong>. See for example the following two links. The bottom one I have followed; the top one I have not followed.\n<img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/2XWBp.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 925, "author": "David Richerby", "author_id": 10685, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10685", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Overall, I like the look a lot. One criticism: in the related questions list, the white question score on a pale grey background is almost impossible to read.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 926, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Is there a way to increase the contrast between the text and background ? or use a darker shade of gray ? Maybe it's my (not-yet-!!)-old eyes, or maybe others have the same problem ? </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 936, "author": "Raphael", "author_id": 1419, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/1419", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I just noticed a layout bug (?) on FF 26.0 (running Ubuntu):</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/4RNkZ.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>The green box indicating an accepted answer is badly positioned; the text should be vertically centered:</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/hiUwR.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>I notice that your screenshots above look more like this than the bad one above, so maybe it's a platform-specific thing?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1549, "author": "Cape Code", "author_id": 10643, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10643", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I suspect the discussion over the design is over, but if it's not I personally find the yellow-ish highlighting of quoted text quite unpleasant. I understand it's part of the color theme, but I think it's esthetically sub-optimal in this context.</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/eLh9K.png\" alt=\"quotation example\"></p>\n\n<p>Alternatively, we could use a larger indent, a smaller font and quotation chevrons.</p>\n" } ]
2014/04/11
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/891", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10587/" ]
907
<p>You guys have gotten your own design and graduated, hurrah! And with that, you now have the opportunity to setup Community Promotion Ads for your own site, not just to apply to other sites.</p> <h3>What are Community Promotion Ads?</h3> <p>Community Promotion Ads are community-vetted advertisements that will show up on the main site, in the right sidebar. The purpose of this question is the vetting process. Images of the advertisements are provided, and community voting will enable the advertisements to be shown.</p> <h3>Why do we have Community Promotion Ads?</h3> <p>This is a method for the community to control what gets promoted to visitors on the site. For example, you might promote the following things:</p> <ul> <li>the site's twitter account</li> <li>academic websites and resources</li> <li>interesting campus story blogs</li> <li>cool events or conferences</li> <li>anything else your community would genuinely be interested in</li> </ul> <p>The goal is for future visitors to find out about <em>the stuff your community deems important</em>. This also serves as a way to promote information and resources that are <em>relevant to your own community's interests</em>, both for those already in the community and those yet to join. </p> <h3>Why do we reset the ads every year?</h3> <p>Some services will maintain usefulness over the years, while other things will wane to allow for new faces to show up. Resetting the ads every year helps accommodate this, and allows old ads that have served their purpose to be cycled out for fresher ads for newer things. This helps keep the material in the ads relevant to not just the subject matter of the community, but to the current status of the community. We reset the ads once a year, every December.</p> <p>The community promotion ads have no restrictions against reposting an ad from a previous cycle. If a particular service or ad is very valuable to the community and will continue to be so, it is a good idea to repost it. It may be helpful to give it a new face in the process, so as to prevent the imagery of the ad from getting stale after a year of exposure.</p> <h3>How does it work?</h3> <p>The answers you post to this question <em>must</em> conform to the following rules, or they will be ignored. </p> <ol> <li><p>All answers should be in the exact form of:</p> <pre><code>[![Tagline to show on mouseover][1]][2] [1]: http://image-url [2]: http://clickthrough-url </code></pre> <p>Please <strong>do not add anything else to the body of the post</strong>. If you want to discuss something, do it in the comments.</p></li> <li><p>The question must always be tagged with the magic <a href="/questions/tagged/community-ads" class="post-tag moderator-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;community-ads&#39;" rel="tag">community-ads</a> tag. In addition to enabling the functionality of the advertisements, this tag also pre-fills the answer form with the above required form.</p></li> </ol> <h3>Image requirements</h3> <ul> <li>The image that you create must be <strong>220 x 250 pixels</strong></li> <li>Must be hosted through our standard image uploader (imgur)</li> <li>Must be GIF or PNG</li> <li>No animated GIFs</li> <li>Absolute limit on file size of 150 KB</li> </ul> <h3>Score Threshold</h3> <p>There is a <strong>minimum score threshold</strong> an answer must meet (currently <strong>6</strong>) before it will be shown on the main site.</p> <p>You can check out the ads that have met the threshold with basic click stats <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/ads/display/907">here</a>.</p>
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2014/04/23
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/907", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/72/" ]
914
<p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/nXATn.png" alt="enter image description here"></p> <p>I think it's a bit unpleasant, lots of wasted space... is it a bug or a feature?</p> <p>Using Chrome on OSX Mavericks, btw. </p> <p><strong>EDIT:</strong> I double checked with Safari and FF, it looks ok. Also Chrome running on Mint 14 looks fine as well. The problem seems to be specific to Chrome on OSX :s</p>
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"soliton", "author_id": 21790, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/21790", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p><a href=\"http://arxitics.com/\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\"><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/xvnEG.png\" alt=\"arXiv Analytics: another web portal dedicated to reading &amp; discussing arXiv eprints\"></a></p>\n" } ]
2014/04/24
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/914", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/5674/" ]
917
<p>Now that we're out of beta, will we get access to the full set of stackexchange sites for migrations ? </p>
[ { "answer_id": 918, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Not sure what power users get to see. I know moderators have the ability to migrate anywhere on SE. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 919, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't think this is planned. I know I put in a <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/96205/more-options-when-flagging-for-migration/110996#110996\">feature request for this a long time ago</a>, but it was closed as <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/status-declined\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;status-declined&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">status-declined</a>. So, I'm thinking not.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 920, "author": "Mad Scientist", "author_id": 201, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/201", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Unless it is very obvious, each migration path is typically discussed separately. SE also requires in most cases that there is already a bit of a history of successful mod migrations to that specific site before enabling a path for community migrations.</p>\n\n<p>So I'd start by looking at the migration statistics, I think only mods can see those, and see if there are any sites where a migration path might be useful. Then you can post a feature request and ask someone from SE to take a look at it.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 921, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To give some insight into why this probably isn't needed (at least right now): <strong>we have very few migrations, and they are “all over the place”</strong>. Among 20 questions migrated (away from Academia) for the last 3 months, the most common target was <a href=\"http://stats.stackexchange.com\">CrossValidated</a>, and it accounted for only 3 migrations. Then we have our own Meta site (2), then all other sites have had only one (successful) migration. </p>\n" } ]
2014/04/24
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/917", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346/" ]
922
<p>A nitpick but with the new format, when I'm reading answers, I keep seeing the answer below as a comment. I scroll down and I get the realisation "oh it's an answer, not a comment".</p> <p>To give an idea of what I mean:</p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/Hz3GI.png" alt="enter image description here"></p> <p>(Screenshot from <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/19756/how-can-we-promote-better-writing-skills-in-academic-education">this question</a>.)</p> <p>... my immediate visual reaction is that "1. HAVE them write ..." starts a comment under the answer, not a new answer.</p> <hr> <p>Or is it just me?</p>
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2014/04/24
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/922", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7746/" ]
927
<p>I was checking out the recent questions and came across <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/19881/should-teachers-be-entertainers">this one</a>, which is essentially an opinion poll regarding the role/attitude teachers should have in class. </p> <p>As I wrote on my comment, I do like what the question is going after but I can't help thinking that it is essentially not a good fit based on how we (and other SE sites) normally operate. As it stands, there is no right answer to this question. Consider this hypothetical answer:</p> <blockquote> <p>"<em>yes, I think the teacher is also responsible for the catching students attention by entertainment, if necessary. I tried this in class <strong>X</strong> for <strong>n</strong> semesters and it works like a charm...</em></p> </blockquote> <p>I don't think anyone of us can claim that the answer is <em>wrong</em> by any merit. We can disagree on to what extent we agree, but essentially any semi-serious (no spam, or one-liner) answer would be a valid answer to the question. Am I mistaken?</p> <p>Would it be too harsh to vote/flag this kind of question?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 928, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>There might be a correct answer, which might not necessarily but absolutely true, but which might at least quote enough literature on the topic. The problem of student engagement is not particularly new, and is probably well documented. There might even be several, conflicting, correct answers. </p>\n\n<p>Now, what should we do with answers of the form \"<em>I tried that, and it (didn't) work</em>\" or \"<em>I think that this should be the right approach because that's how I like it</em>\"? That's a good question, I don't really know. The problem has been already raised in <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/603/evidence-based-answers\">Evidence based answers</a> or <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12/dealing-with-in-my-experience-answers\">Dealing with &quot;In my experience...&quot; answers</a>. </p>\n\n<p>Personally, I tend not to up vote answers that do not provide any sound/motivated/justified argument, regardless of whether I agree with them. But as a moderator, I wouldn't necessarily delete such answers (although I might transform an answer into a comment, if the community asks for it). Similarly, I wouldn't close the question, but I wouldn't reopen it either (so basically, I wouldn't act as a moderator on it). </p>\n\n<p>Perhaps a constructive approach would be to at least edit the question to remove the part asking for \"<em>what do you think about that?</em>\" and replace it \"<em>do you have any objective references on the topic?</em>\". </p>\n\n<p>I think this is an important question, especially now that we have graduated. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 939, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>This is something I've struggled with, because outside of the occasional \"Philosophy of Data Analysis\" questions that crop up on CrossValidated, there's usually <em>a</em> way to critically evaluate answers, and I think Programmers deals with things...a little too harshly. Especially given we're a new site, I'd like to see a slight bias towards helpfulness and traffic.</p>\n\n<p>I think it's probably most useful to flag and comment such questions if they <em>can</em> be tuned towards more specific answers - for example, \"What are some of the pitfalls of X method\" instead of just \"Should I use X?\"</p>\n\n<p>If they can't? I think there's a valid question about whether or not to keep useful but inherently subjective questions open. They seem like prime candidates for something like Community Wiki and, like Charles, I'd seriously encourage folks to vote for the answers that have grounding behind them.</p>\n" } ]
2014/04/28
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/927", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/5674/" ]
932
<p>In connection with the moderator elections, we will be holding a Q&amp;A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary.</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>The purpose of this thread was to collect questions for the questionnaire. The questionnaire is now live, and you may find it <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/990/2014-moderator-election-qa-questionnaire">here</a>.</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>Here's how it'll work:</p> <ul> <li><p>During the nomination phase, (so, until Monday, May 12th, at 20:00:00Z UTC, or 4:00 pm EDT on the same day, give or take time to arrive for closure), this question will be open to collect potential questions from the users of the site. Post answers to this question containing any questions you would like to ask the candidates. Please only post <em>one question per answer</em>.</p></li> <li><p>We, the Community Team, will be providing a small selection of generic questions. The first two will be guaranteed to be included, the latter ones are if the community doesn't supply enough questions. This will be done in a single post, unlike the prior instruction.</p></li> <li><p>This is a perfect opportunity to voice questions that are specific to your community and issues that you are running into at current.</p></li> <li><p>At the end of the phase, the Community Team will select <strong>up to 8 of the top voted questions submitted by the community</strong> provided in this thread, to use in addition to the aforementioned 2 guaranteed questions. We reserve some editorial control in the selection of the questions and may opt not to select a question that is tangential or irrelevant to moderation or the election. That said, if I have concerns about any questions in this fashion, I will be sure to point this out in comments before the decision making time.</p></li> <li><p>Once questions have been selected, a new question will be opened to host the actual questionnaire for the candidates, containing 10 questions in total.</p></li> <li><p>This is not the only option that users have for gathering information on candidates. As a community, you are still free to, for example, hold a live chat session with your candidates to ask further questions, or perhaps clarifications from what is provided in the Q&amp;A.</p></li> </ul> <p>If you have any questions or feedback about this new process, feel free to post as a comment here.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 934, "author": "JRN", "author_id": 64, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/64", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Under what conditions will you delete comments?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 935, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>How will you use your \"binding vote\" moderator privileges?</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Let the community weigh in first on most close, reopen, delete, undelete, etc. operations. That is, I won't use diamond mod privileges to <em>unilaterally</em> perform operations that can be done by the community (with a few very rare exceptions).</li>\n<li>Let the community decide on things that could conceivably be subjective, but for things that are definitely not going to be controversial (e.g. closing a question on \"Why doesn't this code compile\") I will use diamond mod privileges. Why prolong the inevitable?</li>\n<li>Vote as if I was a normal user. That is, I'll vote to close/delete/open/etc. according to my understanding of how this site works, without much special consideration for the fact that my votes are binding.</li>\n<li>Use diamond mod privileges deliberately to keep the direction of the site on track. I have an idea of what this site is all about and I was elected because others agree with this idea, now it's my job to enact it.</li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 944, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>How would you moderate postings where your opinion or the community's opinion and official SE policy disagree?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 945, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>What change would you like to make in how the site is currently moderated, and how would you go about implementing that change?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 946, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>A user posts something you find (off-topic/wrong/offensive) and you (close/delete/migrate) the (question/comment). The user posts about it in Meta and the post gets a lot of upvotes. Answers are posted both in favor of you action and and criticising your action; both get upvotes. How do you decide what to do next?</p>\n\n<p>(In case you're wondering, yes, this happens all the time.)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 947, "author": "Nobody", "author_id": 546, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/546", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>What is your time zone? What is the time period you are available for moderating our site everyday? Please specify the answer in UTC format.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 963, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>A quite specific question: <strong>what is your position with respect to undergraduate questions?</strong></p>\n\n<p>A significant part of my moderator actions have been to arbitrate if a question was on-topic or not, because it was somehow related to undergraduate studies. It can often be argued that some questions can however easily generalise to graduate studies, which would make them on topic. So, what is your position: </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p>Anything related to undergraduate should be off-topic. If a question can be generalised, then it should be generalised first, and then it can be made on-topic. </p></li>\n<li><p>Anything related to academia should be on topic, regardless of the level of studies. Other factors should decide if the question should be closed or not (too localised, too broad, subjective, etc). </p></li>\n<li><p>Undergraduate questions could be on topic, but \"shopping-list\" questions are not (e.g., \"which degree should I choose?\", \"which university should I go to?\"). </p></li>\n<li><p>Any other position. </p></li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 964, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>What is your position on the <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/796/102\">following statement from aeismail</a>: <strong>\"In the long run, Stack Exchange sites are not just about answering people's questions, but providing long-term curating of the answers\"</strong>? </p>\n\n<p>We have some very active users who look at old questions/answers, and curate them, for instance by flagging for comment removal (typically because they are obsolete, too chatty, not constructive, etc). Will you support them in this task? Or do you rather think that content should be left unchanged as much as possible? </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 965, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p><strong>What is your position on <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/14486\">boat programming</a> questions?</strong></p>\n\n<p>Whereas some questions are clearly off-topic (e.g. \"what is 2+2?\"), some questions could be on topic, in that they are related to academia, but Ac.SE might not be the <em>best place</em> for the question. We have had several complex situations where a question could technically be asked on different sites, with some users asking for migration, while others asking for the question to stay. In such a situation, what would you do? (especially considering that only mods can migrate questions). </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>If it's not 100% academia-related, then it should be migrated. </li>\n<li>As long as it is academia-related, it could stay. </li>\n<li>I'll wait for the question to be closed to decide whether to migrate it or not. </li>\n<li>I'll migrate it only if the OP wants to. </li>\n<li>Other approaches? </li>\n</ul>\n\n<p><strong>EDIT</strong></p>\n\n<p>As suggested by aeismail, some examples of questions (for which I don't think there is necessarily a right or wrong decision): </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/49395/representing-experimental-data\">https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/49395/representing-experimental-data</a> was migrated to CrossValidated. The point is made in the comments that it is relevant to many academics, and the question on <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17533/grid-lines-on-graphs\">Grid lines on graphs</a> was not closed as off-topic.</p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/24046/carrying-poster-tube-on-amtrak-trains\">https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/24046/carrying-poster-tube-on-amtrak-trains</a> was migrated to travel.SE (by me, actually, under request), while <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/2448/flying-with-a-poster-tube-as-a-hand-luggage\">Flying with a poster tube as a hand luggage</a> was deemed on topic. </p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/99886/is-et-al-used-as-a-singular-or-plural-subject\">https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/99886/is-et-al-used-as-a-singular-or-plural-subject</a> (on how <em>et al.</em>) was migrated to ELU, while a question about the formatting of citations <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/12703/what-does-year-nnff-means-in-research-papers-eg-1965-47ff/12705#12705\">What does YEAR: NNff means in research papers? eg 1965: 47ff</a> was not closed.</p></li>\n<li><p>As mentioned <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/459/workplace-se-and-boat-programming-questions\">here</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/9104/is-it-more-difficult-for-teetotalers-to-develop-academic-contacts\">Is it more difficult for teetotalers to develop academic contacts?</a> received some closing votes and comments to migrate it to WorkPlace.SE, but stayed on. </p></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>I think that in general, we have many intersections with, e.g., WorkPlace (is working in Academia that specific?), ELU (is writing an academic paper that specific?), CrossValidated (many academics use stats for work), etc. </p>\n\n<p>Some of the questions could have been migrated, some could have stayed, it probably wouldn't have been a problem. But a significant responsibility of the moderator is to arbitrate the migration, and since there is no strict on/off-topic line, it would be good to know on which side of the line our moderation team is. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 967, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>What activities on the site suggest that you would be a good moderator? If you are currently a moderator, do you believe you've carried out the role effectively?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 986, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>What should be done with the popular <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/975/dont-walk-dont-run-either\">\"<strong>Don't walk. Run.</strong>\"</a> comment that shows up on questions. If a user begins systematically flagging the comment as \"non-constructive\" what will you do?</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/05
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/932", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/72/" ]
933
<p>The 2014 Community Moderator Election is now underway!</p> <p>Community moderator elections have three phases:</p> <ol> <li>Nomination phase</li> <li>Primary phase</li> <li>Election phase</li> </ol> <p>Most elections take between two and three weeks, but this depends on how many candidates there are.</p> <p>Please visit the official election page at</p> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/election">https://academia.stackexchange.com/election</a></p> <p>for more detail, and to participate!</p> <p>If you have general questions about the election process, or questions for moderator candidates, feel free to ask them here on meta -- just make sure your questions are tagged <a href="/questions/tagged/election" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;election&#39;" rel="tag">election</a>.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1029, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>It seems like we have four winners ! Congratulations to aeismail, eykanal, ff524 and StrongBad (if I ran the correct algorithm for determining the results)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1031, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>For those who are interested, here is a visualization of the raw votes:</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/TZOg7.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>(Thanks to our friends over at <a href=\"https://stats.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1804/41284\">Stats.SE</a>)</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/05
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/933", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
937
<p>This applies to a few questions out there, especially the ones asking for personal career advice. </p> <p>Was this function removed during graduation of the site? Or is it just me who can't access it anymore? </p> <p><strong>Edit</strong> My guess is that when the site graduated I lost the moderation privilege due to my low reputation. This option used to show up immediately upon hitting the 'close' link, and now I don't see it anymore but buried 4 layers down the flagging dialog.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 938, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't have that option either - the closest thing I can see to it is just \"It needs moderator attention\".</p>\n\n<p>It would be nice to have either a close vote or flagging option for that. I personally find \"this is too hard to render into a non-single use question\" much more common than \"Too Broad\" as a reason I want to see things closed or edited.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 940, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 4, "selected": true, "text": "<p>\"Difficult to generalize\" is now found under the Flag option by selecting \"another reason,\" then \"off-topic.\" It's a bit buried, but now you have more options to choose from.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/06
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/937", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10643/" ]
949
<p>In a comment to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/20399/10094">this answer</a>, rocinante wrote:</p> <blockquote> <p>And while I get that the site is heavily skewed to ignore or shut down any hint of criticism of professors in academia, rosy pictures of idyllic collaborations do not serve anybody who is not in that ideal position. If the questioner was in the ideal position, they wouldn't have a problem in the first place.</p> </blockquote> <p>While I disagree with the strong wording in the comment, it made me wonder.</p> <ul> <li>Are we in fact presenting an idealised view of academia, where professors are always helpful and competent, where advisors and mentors only have the best interest of their mentees in mind, and where research is always about contributing to the body of knowledge and never about politics?</li> <li>If so, is this a good or a bad thing?</li> <li>If it is a bad thing, can it be changed and how?</li> </ul>
[ { "answer_id": 951, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Not sure who the \"we\" is in your question. Assuming you're referring to people who answer questions on this site...</p>\n\n<p>In answering questions, \"we\" are trying to provide hints as to how the student/advisor relationship <em>should</em> work. Is that idealized? Yes, and intentionally so. In most cases, the question is asking whether the behavior is normal (\"ideal\") or abnormal (\"not ideal\"), and the answer provide that clarification.</p>\n\n<p>The comment you quoted, though, suggests that \"we\" intentionally avoid posting any criticism of academia and/or academics. This is far from the case, as can be seen by simply browsing the front page at any given day. Many academics are wonderful people, and many are absolute jerks, just like in any other environment. If the commenter has a problem with a specific question, they can definitely bring it to our attention via flags or posting here on meta, but the general accusation seems unfounded (to me, at least).</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 952, "author": "F'x", "author_id": 2700, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/2700", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't think so… while some questions &amp; answers deal with <em>“what should happen in this situation”</em> (theoretical and ideal workings of academia), the site also abounds with questions on real life in academia, the system's shortcomings, how to handle them, etc.</p>\n\n<p>To be more specific, and follow your example: we have plenty of useful questions and answers on how to behave in certain specific situations which are very far from the norm (crappy colleagues, cheating students, unhelpful supervisors, professors that try to evict you from the university, ethical shortcomings and utter failures, etc.).</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 953, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To echo the sentiments of other posters, I don't think we're presenting an idealized view of academia - and indeed, regularly acknowledging that academia is full of petty nonsense and bad behavior.</p>\n\n<p>What are <em>are</em> often presenting in answers to \"What should I do...\" questions is a general stance that abuse, exploitation and poor mentorship are not normalized behaviors that, if someone is experiencing, they should just accept as their fate.</p>\n\n<p>I don't think that's a bad thing.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 955, "author": "Mangara", "author_id": 8185, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/8185", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>When someone comes here to ask for advice in dealing with others, it often falls into one of two cases:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>Everyone acted in good faith, but due to miscommunication or other circumstances, problems arose.</li>\n<li>Someone acted in bad faith and caused problems.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>While Case 2 does happen from time to time, the large majority of answers here address Case 1 (the 'idealised' scenario). There are good reasons for this:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>For someone answering the question, these two cases are nearly indistinguishable. The questioner is usually the 'wronged' party and as such naturally biased, so even if the questioner is convinced that others are acting in bad faith, this is not necessarily true. In fact, the easiest way to discover that the problem is in Case 2, is to try and apply the Case 1 solution.</li>\n<li>The appropriate response to Case 2 is typically to escalate the problem by appealing to a higher authority, or to get out of the situation altogether <em>(Don't walk. Run.)</em>. This should be a last resort, as it can easily burn bridges.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>As such, I think that yes, most answers present a somewhat idealised view of academia, but that's because it results in <em>better answers</em>.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 956, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think that sometimes \"we\" do.</p>\n\n<p>I do understand very well that some people may have not met certain problems (either they had careless personal experience or their faculty or group didn't have such problem). But it does not mean that they are non-existing.</p>\n\n<p>Similarly, if someone has issues with advisor (I know little people who have none... every relationship has its own problems) I dislike answers implying that advisor does and wants the best. Sure, some of the answerers are great advisors but it does not yet mean that it is true for all others.</p>\n\n<p>There are many very symptomatic answers (or comments), of the form <em>\"Just ask your advisor.\"</em>. Well, I guess if it were the case this site would not be needed that much. </p>\n\n<p>Or another short example: <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/20419/49\">https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/20419/49</a>. You had great PhD experience? Great! All of your friends as well? Great! But it does not imply that it is true for everyone.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 958, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Chiming in on my own question after reading previous answers and giving this a bit more thought.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Are we in fact presenting an idealised view of academia?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I think we do. Don't get me wrong, most of what is posted here is fully accurate, but I do think there are some neuralgic topics on which the general opinion here seems to be much more optimistic than my honest impression of the reality:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Advisors generally have the best for the candidate in mind</li>\n<li>Researchers generally are really concerned about research ethics</li>\n<li>The chances that certain applicants have in the gradudate school / postdoc / tenure track market</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>The reasons for this may be three-fold. </p>\n\n<p>Firstly, I would argue that people that made terrible experiences in academia are by and large underrepresented among our top posters, simply because those people usually <em>leave</em> academia pretty quickly. The people that stay (and choose to engage in a network like academia.SE) are the ones that have not been burned by terrible advisors or some such. That does not mean that counterexamples are rare out there.</p>\n\n<p>Secondly, at least for myself, I can certainly see that I am sometimes posting how I would <em>want</em> the academic world to work, and not how it always presents itself. It is hard to admit that, e.g., in my work life, the question of who becomes a co-author often has much more to do with politics than the absolute merit of contributions.</p>\n\n<p>Thirdly, I think the more theoretical fields (maths, theoretical CS, etc.) are a bit overrepresented here, and I <em>think</em> that hard reality in these fields approximates the academic ideal more closely than, e.g., in applied CS.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>If so, is this a good or a bad thing?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I have thought long and hard about that, and I tend to agree with Fomite, Mangara and others that this is in fact <strong>not a bad thing</strong> in itself, at least as long as it does not lead to actively bad advice. In the end, there is no point in by default assuming that something abusive or unethical is happening whenever somebody comes for advice, as, in all of these cases, the suggestion will be the same (JeffE's trademark <strong>Don't Walk. Run.</strong>). </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 959, "author": "Suresh", "author_id": 346, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/346", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In my time in grad school and beyond, I've seen my share of strife and suffering, to the point where even though I've been lucky enough not to struggle too greatly myself, I can appreciate (if not necessarily empathize) with people having troubles. </p>\n\n<p>Therefore when I answer, I try to distinguish as far as possible</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>what we would all like to happen</li>\n<li>what typically happens </li>\n<li>what should NOT happen under any circumstances (even if it's sadly not rare)</li>\n<li>what is completely abnormal. </li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>And in all cases, the evidence presented for the actual situation should be more important than abstract principles, mainly because every situation is different in important ways, and concrete evidence should carry weight. </p>\n\n<p>Coming now to the actual cases, </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p>The first element is not so much idealized as wishful thinking (\"I wish my advisor would give me research problems all ready to solve\") or (\"I wish my advisor behaved like a rational robot all the time\") and so on. </p></li>\n<li><p>The second element is the one most susceptible to bias, in that we're talking about what we <strong>think</strong> is the typical case, and as I've discovered, different communities have very different notions of <strong>typical</strong>, and that's a good thing to be aware of. In that sense, I've learnt a lot. </p></li>\n<li><p>The third and fourth elements are very important though especially for students going through something relatively alone. It's very important that there are people who can tell them that a situation is just wrong as opposed to being \"normal\", and I think we can fairly do that even if these wrong situations are not unusual. Pointing that out isn't presenting an idealized view but is identifying (a) dysfunction and (b) ways to \"<strong>Run, don't walk</strong>\". </p></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Ultimately many of us on this site are academics. We wouldn't be in academia if we didn't at some level perceive value in the profession we're in, and so we can't help but take a rosier view of things. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 970, "author": "Faheem Mitha", "author_id": 285, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/285", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'm not sure who the \"we\" is in the question. There are broadly two categories of people on this site, namely senior people (faculty) and junior people (postdocs and students).</p>\n\n<p>A lot of questions here seem to be by students and post-docs who have problems with their advisors and P.I.s. Often these problems seem quite major. It is difficult to draw any conclusions from this, however, since the people writing this are after all self-selecting, and may not be representative. (After all, junior people relatively rarely write to talk about how wonderful their advisors are, and how well things are going.)\nOne hopes such questions are not representative, of course. In any case, it is possible one gets a worse than actual view of how bad academia is from more junior people. </p>\n\n<p>On the other hand, I think perhaps the senior researchers have a better than average view of how good academia is. For at least a couple of reasons.</p>\n\n<p>First. senior academics are people for who things, in general, have gone well much of the way. Maybe there has been some bad stuff, but not much. My observation has been that in academia, partly because it is quite stratified and hierarchical, that it can be difficult to recover from bad things. If you have a couple or more bad things happen, it can easily seriously jeopardise your chances of a good career. For the obvious reasons, because bad things makes the probability of more bad things in the future, and conversely good things happening make the probability of more good things happening in the future. Of course, this is true of life in general, but in academia, in my experience, it is particularly true. You are expected to be in a particular place at a particular time in your life, given certain educational attainments, and people are intolerant if you are not. In any case, people who have had a reasonably good time in a system tend to think the system works well, because it worked well for them.</p>\n\n<p>Second, the senior people who post here are, sort of again by a process of self-selection, not your typical academic. Typical senior academics typically don't spend time on a question/answer site about academics. Virtually all senior academics I've known would have fainted dead away with surprise at the suggestion that they do so. For lack of a better word, I think the senior academics here are \"nicer\" than average. Therefore, I think there is a tendency for them to think the better of the academic world in which they reside. Basically, they tend to think other academic people are nice too. Maybe because the other academics they choose to associate with are also reasonable, functional, people? I know this is a bit speculative, but I think I have observed this phenomenon on this site.</p>\n\n<p>I don't think that presenting a unrealistic or distorted view of academia is a good thing, of course, but I think some distortion in inevitable, if only for the reasons I mentioned.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1526, "author": "Ben Bitdiddle", "author_id": 24384, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/24384", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think this will always be a problem as long as most top-ranked users link to their department website in their bios. Most academics don't want their colleagues reading their controversial, academia-related posts, so they keep their posts idealized and benign.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/07
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/949", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094/" ]
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<p>So I've embarked on something of a tag wiki editing project, and as I'm working through my list, I've hit <code>reference-request</code>. This appears to be used in two different cases, rather than just one:</p> <ol> <li>Requests for citations, references or documents to support a question</li> <li>Questions about asking a recommender for a letter of reference</li> </ol> <p>These are clearly two very different types of questions. Thoughts on the best way to split the tag to make it more clear?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 957, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 3, "selected": true, "text": "<p>On Stack Exchange sites <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;reference-request&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">reference-request</a> has the first meaning. I think that it should have the same meaning on Academia.SE.</p>\n\n<p>See:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://mathoverflow.net/questions/tagged/reference-request\">https://mathoverflow.net/questions/tagged/reference-request</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request\">https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request</a></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>So for reference letters, why not <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-letters\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;reference-letters&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">reference-letters</a>?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 961, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>As I have said <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/645/vote-on-tag-synonyms/678#678\">before</a> I agree that <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;reference-request&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">reference-request</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/references\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;references&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">references</a> have split personalities and needs to be cleaned up. When I looked in the past the questions pretty cleanly fell into <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/recommendation-letter\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;recommendation-letter&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">recommendation-letter</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/citations\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;citations&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">citations</a>.</p>\n\n<p>Despite the meaning of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;reference-request&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">reference-request</a> on other SE sites, I think we should either blacklist <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference-request\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;reference-request&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">reference-request</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/references\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;references&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">references</a> (which is pretty extreme or make them synonyms of either <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/recommendation-letter\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;recommendation-letter&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">recommendation-letter</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/citations\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;citations&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">citations</a> since it is ambiguous here. Being a synonym of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/citations\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;citations&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">citations</a> would be more consistent with other SE sites, but I am not sure that is how we use it now. Maybe doing a count of the question before re tagging them would be useful to get a feel for how the tag is being used.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/07
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/954", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118/" ]
975
<p>If we have a meme on this site, it's "<strong>Don't walk. Run.</strong>" It is like an inside joke for the community ... but the joke might not be clear to newcomers. </p> <p>If we could get past the semantic satiation for a minute, somebody quitting their real-life position and looking for employment/studies elsewhere is a serious issue and should be treated seriously.</p> <p>I think it's especially problematic coming from hugely successful academics working in rock-star departments who don't know the culture in other areas and departments. </p> <p>Lots of questions are coming from inexperienced researchers and typically paint a one-sided picture. Highly-upvoted comments in bold left by experienced academics telling inexperienced academics that they leave their job as soon as possible ... I sometimes find it uncomfortable.</p> <p>A couple of examples of where it made me cringe:</p> <ul> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/5656/handling-credit-with-advisor">Handling credit with advisor</a>: a question that seems almost too simple in terms of not being the whole story. The first piece of advice isn't "have you tried talking with her?" but rather "<strong>Don't walk. Run.</strong>" ... with 18 upvotes.</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15229/what-to-do-pi-lied-to-me-and-is-keeping-my-grant">What to do: PI lied to me and is keeping my grant!</a>: a difficult question that requires legal advice, not a pithy comment.</p></li> <li><p>There was another example I can't find right now where a student mentioned that in their school, they require the permission of their supervisor to publish. This was met with "<strong>Don't walk. Run</strong>" from JeffE which seemed entirely inappropriate. A school guideline requiring students to clear affiliated publications with their supervisor seems pretty reasonable (if a tad distrustful) ... certainly not grounds to quit.</p></li> </ul> <hr> <p>Anyone agree that this meme is potentially damaging? It just doesn't seem worth the risk.</p> <p>Folks using this meme should have some respect for the fact that they're advising another human being to quit their job/studies ... and they should keep in mind that they are simultaneously communicating with thousands of vulnerable people from a variety of areas who see such questions and who might project themselves as being in similar situations.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 976, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Actually, \"don't walk—run\" is a shorthand for a different situation, in my opinion:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>\"Don't walk. Run.\" is a signal that the questioner is in a situation where the status quo is completely unsustainable.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Such situations are usually ones where things have deteriorated to the point where leaving is likely a better option than just \"toughing things out.\"</p>\n\n<p>So perhaps a little bit of caution is in order before using the line, but I wouldn't say it is always unacceptable.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 977, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Initially I liked the <strong>Don't walk. Run!</strong> line. However, it may be more fun as an inside joke for the Academia.SE community than for the person who is experiencing the problem.</p>\n\n<p>Imagine when an already confused student or young researcher gets such comment. Is it that helpful and actionable? Especially as academic market is not very flexible and typically you can't start a new position the next day (or have savings to get you past unemployment). Also, as recommendation letters are crucial, in many cases enduring outright mistreatment might be \"the lesser evil\" to burning bridges. (I don't say it should work that way, but we are <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/949/are-we-presenting-an-idealised-view-of-academia\">dealing with real, not idealized, academia</a>.)</p>\n\n<p>So for <strong>Don't walk. Run!</strong> (for anything below an advisor asking a student for their kidney) now my immediate though is <strong>Great! But how and where?</strong>.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 979, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I read <strong>\"Don't walk. Run.\"</strong> as an acknowledgement that the difficult situation described in the question is drastically wrong and needs to be addressed quickly. As the answers to the questions often eventually point out, the correct \"answer\" is rarely to quit then and there. The key to the <strong>\"Don't walk. Run.\"</strong> meme is that it is saying: your interpretation is correct and there is a problem you need to go talk to a trusted colleague NOW instead of waiting for answers (but it is using a lot less words).</p>\n\n<p>Now the question becomes how do new users who are potentially inexperienced academics interpret a highly up voted <strong>\"Don't walk. Run.\"</strong> If they are quitting their jobs, we have a problem, but if they are seeing it as encouraging comment then it is serving its purpose. As I have never seen an OP question the meme, I don't think we have a problem.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 981, "author": "Christian Clason", "author_id": 13852, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/13852", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I've always understood it to mean \"Don't walk <em>to wherever you need to go to deal with this</em>, run!\", i.e., a pithy way of stressing the urgency of the situation; it was only by reading this question that I became aware of the possible interpretation of \"Don't walk out, run away!\"</p>\n\n<p>Now, internet communication is a narrow-bandwidth medium, internet comments doubly so; hence that subtlety might get lost. I think having this discussion is already quite helpful -- now whenever JeffE leaves his trademark comment, and someone is afraid that it can be misunderstood, they can give a link to this Meta post explaining the implied (or to be inferred) meaning and demonstrating that it's not (just) a snarky comment.</p>\n\n<p>(Being able to give a link to an accepted consensus answer as a sort of FAQ entry would be even better.)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 982, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>It's not a constructive comment: i.e. it doesn't seek clarification on the question.</p>\n\n<p>So when you see it, flag it as non-constructive.</p>\n\n<p>This should get the comment deleted, when the flag is reviewed. Comments are ephemeral here (just as across almost all Stack Exchange sites), and need little reason for deletion. A single flag prompting it should, in almost all cases, be sufficient.</p>\n\n<p>If your flags get declined, then come back to meta and post about it, and we'll discuss moderation policy.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 985, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I agree with aeismail's answer, in that <em>\"Don't walk. Run.\"</em> somehow indicates that if you've reached this point, the problem is unlikely to be fixed. </p>\n\n<p>However, a disclaimer I'd like to add on the site: </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p><strong>Don't follow advice from strangers on the Internet</strong></p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I think Ac.SE should be seen not as a place to get advice, but as a place to receive objective answers. Most questions where Jeff's catchphrase applies usually correspond to bad/dysfunctional relationships between advisor and advisee. </p>\n\n<p>Of course, the problem can be cultural (<em>that's just the way we do it here</em>) and there can be strong constraints (<em>I have invested so much, I cannot leave now</em>), but I honestly think that in such cases, there is no good answer from strangers on the Internet. We should probably have a template answer: <em>Talk to you advisor; Talk to a mentor; Talk to the administration; Talk to colleagues; Talk to a lawyer; Talk to a psychologist/therapist; Talk to your family and friends; Talk to anybody who has a good understanding of the particular situation you are in. Don't listen to people who are 10.000km from you, in a different system and a different culture.</em></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 989, "author": "JeffE", "author_id": 65, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/65", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I use the response \"Don't walk. Run.\" to mean exactly two things, neither of which is intended as a joke.</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p><strong>You are being abused. Get out now.</strong> Further engagement will only hurt you more. Seek professional (and possibly legal) help, but from a safe distance, after you extract yourself.</p></li>\n<li><p><strong>Your relationship with your advisor/colleague/department is broken beyond repair.</strong> The situation has progressed beyond the point where it can be salvaged. Further engagement will not be productive, and may do you permanent professional harm.</p></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>In retrospect, I really should distinguish between these two responses, and I will certainly be more careful in the future. The latter is probably better summarized as \"<strong>Walk away.</strong>\"</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I sometimes find it uncomfortable</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Good. It is uncomfortable.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>There was another example I can't find right now where a student mentioned that in their school, they require the permission of their supervisor to publish. This was met with \"Don't walk. Run\" from JeffE which seemed entirely inappropriate.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I stand by my response. Forbidding researchers (students or otherwise) to publish without their supervisor's permission, in an academic environment, is unethical bordering on abusive. Of course, research should only be published with the agreement of all <em>contributors</em> (or as they are usually known after publication, <em>coauthors</em>), and it's entirely appropriate for equipment owners to restrict access to their research equipment, but those are completely separate issues. If your students' poor-quality publications are sullying the reputation of your department, it's your responsibility to mentor and reward them more effectively, not lock them up.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Folks using this meme should have some respect for the fact that they're advising another human being to quit their job/studies ... and they should keep in mind that they are simultaneously communicating with thousands of vulnerable people from a variety of areas who see such questions and who might project themselves as being in similar situations.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This is absolutely correct. I am indeed advising another human being to quit their job, leave their department, or at least find a new advisor. And I am communicating that message to thousands to vulnerable people who might believe themselves to be in similar situations. Which is <strong>exactly</strong> why I give that answer.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1731, "author": "299792458", "author_id": 17534, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/17534", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I know this is old, but I'll focus on OP's last paragraph, and propose a work around. </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Folks using this meme should have some respect for the fact that they're advising another human being to quit their job/studies ... and they should keep in mind that they are simultaneously communicating with thousands of vulnerable people from a variety of areas who see such questions and who might project themselves as being in similar situations.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I agree that the meme doesn't become clear right away to total newbie's on the site. It takes a while to get acquainted. And while <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/989/17534\">Jeff is not aiming to patronize, his remark his well intended</a>, it can potentially be misread. </p>\n\n<p>The easiest resolution is to post <em>Don't Walk, Run</em>, as <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/q/975/17534\"><em>Don't Walk, Run</em></a>, i.e. link to this post. </p>\n\n<p>This will serve three purposes at once: </p>\n\n<p>1 The meme doesn't get killed.</p>\n\n<p>2 The context and underlying intention becomes clear even to first timers.</p>\n\n<p>3 Possibility of anyone taking offense gets eliminated. </p>\n" } ]
2014/05/10
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/975", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7746/" ]
983
<p>I have a question that is not a problem, but rather something that I'm curious about and could elicit a good answer. I would like to know the reasons for what I believe is a trend relating to the kinds of facilities offered by campuses.</p> <p>It's not about academia per se, but I think it <em>could</em> fall under the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic">allowed topic</a> of </p> <blockquote> <p>Life as a graduate student, postdoctoral researcher, university professor</p> </blockquote> <p>and maybe even </p> <blockquote> <p>Inner workings of research departments.</p> </blockquote>
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2014/05/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/983", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/13420/" ]
987
<p>I wrote this question: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/20532/10643">How should academics handle communication with the media?</a> and think it would benefit from people editing it by adding their personal experience so that we can cover more aspects of this issue. </p> <p>Is it a candidate to become a community wiki? If yes, what is the procedure for a low-rep worm like me to suggest it might be?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 988, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 1, "selected": true, "text": "<p>To answer the <strong>why</strong>, there isn't much of a reason anymore; the added feature of \"suggested edits\" made it mostly superfluous (<a href=\"http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/08/the-future-of-community-wiki/\">source</a>). Nowadays, questions almost never would be marked community wiki (CW), and only the very rare answer that truly requires the community to comprehensively answer would be converted.</p>\n\n<p>To answer the <strong>how</strong>, just flag a question and a mod can convert it. But we would probably decline the flag as it would not almost certainly not be necessary.</p>\n\n<p>To address the specific question at hand, the question is highly relevant to Academia, and the answers are all very appropriate and stand on their own. I don't think that should be marked CW.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 991, "author": "Pete L. Clark", "author_id": 938, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/938", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The accepted answer neglects an important feature of community-wiki questions: they do not confer reputation on the asker. This is an important feature, because some users do not want to gain lots of reputation for questions which tend to be high-traffic and highly upvoted but (often) convey less subject-area acumen. </p>\n\n<p>On many other sites, questions are routinely made CW. For the first several years of SE's existence, on SE sites one had the option of making a question CW upon asking it. Many longtime SE users (like me) view the removal of this feature as slightly obnoxious. It was slightly obnoxious provided that requests to convert questions to CW were routinely granted. If they are not being granted, then I at least view the change as a very obnoxious loss of functionality. For a platform whose motto is \"We don't run XXXX, you do!\", SE has been slowly but steadily moving towards a model which micro-manages user contributions. I would welcome moderators who push back against this a bit, as do most or all of the moderators on the other SE sites I frequent.</p>\n\n<p><b>Added</b>: There are further nuances of CW which are not discussed in the accepted answer. A non-CW question is attached to a single user. Although high rep users can edit the question, in the culture of many sites -- including this one -- edits to questions are done sparingly, mostly at the level of copyediting, adding links and removing obviously problematic content. There is the sense that a question is still being asked by a specific person and that one should not mess with it too much without their consent. Making a question CW is a clear signal that everyone is encouraged to edit it as much as possible. Losing this feature is...is a loss. I can't understand why that would not be desirable on a site like this.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/987", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10643/" ]
990
<p>In connection with the moderator elections, we are holding a Q&amp;A thread for the candidates. Questions collected <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/932/2014-moderator-election-qa-question-collection">from an earlier thread</a> have been compiled into this one, which shall now serve as the space for the candidates to provide their answers. Not every question was compiled, but apparently when I posted the original Q&amp;A collection, the self-answer containing our suggested questions failed to be submitted. For this reason, I've opted to collect 10 questions from the community in lieu of the usual selection of 8 plus our 2. </p> <p>As a candidate, your job is simple - post an answer to this question, citing each of the questions and then post your answer to each question given in that same answer. For your convenience, I will include all of the questions in quote format with a break in between each, suitable for you to insert your answers. Just <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/revisions/4116ef36-2ef1-4c9b-b6d6-f5c95a9c43b0/view-source">copy the whole thing after the first set of three dashes</a>.</p> <p>Once all the answers have been compiled, this will serve as a transcript for voters to view the thoughts of their candidates, and will be appropriately linked in the Election page. </p> <p>Good luck to all of the candidates!</p> <hr> <blockquote> <p>A user posts something you find (off-topic/wrong/offensive) and you (close/delete/migrate) the (question/comment). The user posts about it in Meta and the post gets a lot of upvotes. Answers are posted both in favor of you action and and criticising your action; both get upvotes. How do you decide what to do next?</p> <p>A quite specific question: <strong>what is your position with respect to undergraduate questions?</strong> A significant part of my moderator actions have been to arbitrate if a question was on-topic or not, because it was somehow related to undergraduate studies. It can often be argued that some questions can however easily generalise to graduate studies, which would make them on topic. So, what is your position? <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/963/">Some example positions</a></p> <p>How will you use your "binding vote" moderator privileges? Let the community weigh in first on most close, reopen, delete, undelete, etc. operations? Let the community decide on things that could conceivably be subjective, but take action on non-controversial matters immediately? Act to deliberately to keep the direction of the site on track? Vote as if you were a normal user, disregarding your role and the binding nature?</p> <p>What change would you like to make in how the site is currently moderated, and how would you go about implementing that change?</p> <p>Under what conditions will you delete comments?</p> <p>What is your position on boat programming questions? <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/965/">See here for examples</a>.</p> <p>How would you moderate postings where your opinion or the community's opinion and official SE policy disagree?</p> <p>What is your position on the following statement from aeismail: "In the long run, Stack Exchange sites are not just about answering people's questions, but providing long-term curating of the answers"? We have some very active users who look at old questions/answers, and curate them, for instance by flagging for comment removal (typically because they are obsolete, too chatty, not constructive, etc). Will you support them in this task? Or do you rather think that content should be left unchanged as much as possible?</p> <p>What is your time zone? What is the time period you are available for moderating our site everyday? Please specify the answer in UTC format.</p> <p>What activities on the site suggest that you would be a good moderator? If you are currently a moderator, do you believe you've carried out the role effectively?</p> </blockquote>
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2014/05/13
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/990", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/72/" ]
992
<p>Pete Clark recently asked a question which is, essentially, a <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/20901/compiling-ethical-standards-for-coauthorship-across-academic-fields-and-regions">list of things</a>. In the past, we've had differing thoughts from the community on this topic (<a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/50/questions-involving-lists">for</a>, <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/749/big-list-questions">against</a>). Thoughts?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 993, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't like big list question in general. In this particular case, I like it even less. My guess is someone has done a meta analysis, and if they haven't they should, on the authorship requirements of different societies/journals. A question about where to find and how to interpret field specific authorship norms would also be useful, but I think a list of excerpts and/or personal opinions about authorship will be of limited value.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 994, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'm rather in favor of this particular big list question for a couple reasons:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>\"Necessitate constant revision as facts change\" and \"My guess is someone has done a meta analysis\" are actually mutually contradictory objections. Either a single, authoritative, static source can (or should) exist, or it's in constant need of changing. It can't be both.</li>\n<li>There's a steady drumbeat of exactly these questions, and I think there's definitively a place for a thread we can point to and say \"Find your field, consult the excerpt, and ponder whether or not you think you have a problem or not\". This is, as far as I can tell, our \"What book should I pick up to learn C/C++...\" question.</li>\n<li>\"a list of excerpts and/or personal opinions about authorship will be of limited value.\" I don't think a list of excerpts from authoritative sources would be of limited value, and I'm particularly interested in knowing how that would differ from @Strongbad's proposed systematic review.</li>\n<li>The list has the advantage of being potentially very wide ranging in terms of fields. My concern for these types of questions is always that the answer for one field might not match another, and if we don't have anyone in X field on while the question is active, we lose that information. A persistent collection of said information would avoid that problem.</li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 995, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>My thoughts are that these types of questions are not useful:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>They necessitate constant revision as facts change</li>\n<li>They are of questionable use, as few would use that question as the authoritative source</li>\n<li>The ease of scope creep for the question makes it difficult to manage and requires constant maintenance to keep it clean</li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 996, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>CW for a list of things is tricky. (Personally I do like some big lists on SE if they are objective (e.g. list of software to do X).)</p>\n\n<p>CW for a list of subjective things is very tricky. The same things holds for things that cannot be shortened to a single sentence. (While the problem is interesting, I don't feel it will work with SE system; however, I would like to see what happens rather than close it prematurely.) </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 997, "author": "Mad Scientist", "author_id": 201, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/201", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>\"Lists of things\" is a rather broad category, and there are many different kinds of list questions, I'll restrict my answer to this specific example and similar questions.</p>\n\n<p>The important questions in my opinion here is whether the topic is better handled by a single CW question as proposed here, or by an individual questions for each field.</p>\n\n<p>One large disadvantage is that the big CW question is unordered, the answers are sorted by score, which is pretty much meaningless in this specific case. To find the specific field you have to scroll through the entire list manually.</p>\n\n<p>Another aspect is that I'm not convinced that just the statements of scientific societies are enough to actually answer such questions fully. While I think a good answer to such a question should reference such sources, it often should go above that. The official statements are rather general and might need more clarification or explanation to be really useful.</p>\n\n<p>I think this subject would be better served by individual questions, with appropriate closure as duplicates if the situations and fields are similar enough to an existing question.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1001, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'm not necessarily against big-list questions, <strong>as long as every answer is potentially interesting for all readers interested in the question.</strong> For instance, the C++ question mentioned above, or <a href=\"https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/339/latex-editors-ides\">this question about latex editors</a>, if you're interested in the question, then all answers are potentially interesting. </p>\n\n<p>In the case of the question <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/20901/compiling-ethical-standards-for-coauthorship-across-academic-fields-and-regions\">Compiling ethical standards for coauthorship across academic fields and regions</a>, I believe that apart from people who are fundamentally interested in comparing different fields/regions, in general at most one or two answers are relevant to each individual reader. Hence, the voting on each answer does not necessarily reflect the quality of the answer, but more likely the relevance of the answer to the reader. </p>\n\n<p>So as such, it's not particularly constructive, and I think a better place to compile such a meta analysis could be <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_authorship\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">on Wikipedia</a>, where there is no need for a voting mechanism. </p>\n" } ]
2014/05/13
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/992", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73/" ]
1,005
<p>The accepted answer to <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/987/how-and-why-should-a-question-be-made-a-community-wiki">this question</a> suggests that community wiki is deemed sort of a <em>legacy feature</em> that serves no real purpose anymore, as people are supposed to just edit additional information into existing answers, if they feel that a given answer is good but is missing "something".</p> <p>Both, Jigg and Pete L. Clark remark that this in practice basically never happens (essentially all edits are just grammar or spelling fixes, with the occasional do-over for clarity and style). This is also my impression - I have been reasonably active on the site in the last few months, and from the top of my head I cannot remember a single case where I have seen an edit that <em>actually added content to an existing answer</em>. Personally speaking, I would also see this as highly inappropriate, as there is no guarantee that the original author even endorses a given change. Pete L. Clark goes into detail in <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/991/10094">his answer</a> why people seem reluctant to do anything but minor style edits to other people's answers.</p> <p>My question is now as follows:</p> <p><strong>If we encounter a question that already has one or more answers that we consider really good, but we feel some minor-ish detail needs to be added. What is the right way to do it?</strong></p> <ol> <li>Post a comment and ask the original author to edit it in.</li> <li>Edit it in directly.</li> <li>Provide a new answer, which starts with something along the lines of "The existing answer by XY is good, but ...". I have done something similar <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/20927/10094">myself today</a>.</li> </ol> <p>Option 1 is ok but cumbersome. The question linked at the top seems to suggest to me option 2, but how do we guarantee that the original author even has the same opinion on the topic? Option 3 seems to be the common way how it is currently done (my impression at least), but brings us close to community wiki territory. </p>
[ { "answer_id": 1006, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 4, "selected": true, "text": "<p>I personally agree with the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/editing\">global SE policy on editing</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>When should I edit posts?</strong></p>\n<p>Any time you see a post that needs improvement and are inclined to suggest an edit, you are welcome to do so. The original author of a question or answer may always edit their own post, regardless of reputation level.</p>\n<p>Edits are expected to be substantial and to leave the post better than you found it. Common reasons for edits include:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>To fix grammar and spelling mistakes</li>\n<li>To clarify the meaning of the post (without changing that meaning)</li>\n<li>To include additional information only found in comments, so all of the information relevant to the post is contained in one place</li>\n<li>To correct minor mistakes or add updates as the post ages</li>\n<li>To add related resources or hyperlinks</li>\n</ul>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Note that it is always clear when a post has been edited, and the edit history always shows who is responsible for the added content, so the &quot;endorsement&quot; problem should not really be one.</p>\n<p>However, I'm not sure if the OP is always notified that an edit has been made on his/her post, if it's not the case, then it should be, to allow the OP to rollback the edit in case he/she disagrees with it.</p>\n<p>That said, the option 3 is also completely acceptable, especially if the added content is substantial. I'm not sure how it brings us close to CW territory: CW only means that anybody with &gt;100 rep can edit directly all posts, while a regular post requires users with &lt;2K to suggest edits, which then need to be approved.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1007, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In the example you linked to for Option 3, that is actually the correct option to use. You are not editing their answer—because it's providing a new viewpoint that the other respondents missed. Moreover, it was a substantial answer in its own right, so doing what you did is exactly correct.</p>\n\n<p>For smaller-scale edits—correcting facts, adding links or appropriate qualifying statements, and so on, either option 1 or 2 works, depending on your comfort level with editing posts directly or not. I personally use option 1 as the default, but that's in part because of having \"privileged\" status as a moderator.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1039, "author": "E.P.", "author_id": 820, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/820", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>If you would like an answer to contain additional detail, which you feel will likely be endorsed by the poster, but you are worried that they may not be notified or may not quite approve, one option is to edit the post directly and add a comment along the lines of </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Good answer, XXX! I have added some detail on YYY because ZZZ, but of course feel free to roll it back.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This makes immediately visible to anyone that there's content that's been edited in, and what that content is. It also ensures the poster will get an inbox notification next time they log in, and I feel it is more polite than a blunt edit.</p>\n\n<p>Of course, this still has disadvantages and should only be done if you really are only adding details to which the post's owner likely won't object.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/14
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1005", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094/" ]
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<p>One of my questions&mdash;<a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/21005">Topical tag cloud generator for researchers/academics</a>&mdash;was <a href="https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/4160/topical-tag-cloud-generator-for-researchers-academics">migrated</a> to a site I'm not a member of and have no intention of signing up for. Thus I can no longer interact with it. It was migrated with about 5 upvotes and an answer with 4 upvotes (that I never had the chance to upvote). I shall speak of it using the past tense, <a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QsJRwCx_vvQ/UWQcu_uPb8I/AAAAAAAATJs/THt3Xmfz17A/s1600/Dead+parrot+2.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">may it rest in peace</a>.</p> <p>Seemingly it was migrated after @EnergyNumbers put forward in a comment that it was a "boat programming" question. His comment got some upvotes and (I guess) close votes started to appear afterwards and it got migrated somehow (I don't know the process). Hence this seemed to be an important comment.</p> <p>I did not know what "boat programming" meant before but <a href="https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/14470/what-is-the-boat-programming-meme-about">based on the discussion here</a>, @EnergyNumbers was putting forward that my question was analogous to asking "<a href="http://donmillereducation.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/we-re-gonna-need-a-bigger-boat.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">What is the best boat for an academic</a>" ... the argument being that adding "for an academic" doesn't make a question about boats a relevant question. Now I had previously added discussion to my question specifying the reasons why a generic tag cloud generator would be insufficient, and why I was looking for something specific for academic papers. One could argue that it was still a boat programming question since one could argue why a programmer needs a certain type of boat ... it needs a good coffee machine for example. </p> <p>The other part of the comment was that it was a "shopping question", which I understand is like asking (as an academic) for your favourite <em>x</em> from a set of well-known <em>X</em> or something. I would argue that my question was not asking for one's favourite anything from a set of well-known anythings. It was looking for software packages to extract and visualise topics from research papers. Others could argue it was a shopping question I guess because I was asking for things.</p> <p>The last part of the comment was that it was relevant to another StackExchange site&mdash;Software Recommendations&mdash;where it eventually migrated.</p> <p>Was it a "boat programming" question? ...</p> <p>Was it a "shopping" question? ...</p> <p>Was it ...</p> <hr> <p>I went looking through <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask">the FAQ</a> to see what I missed. I didn't really find anything. I mean I can see that one could make arguments that my question was doing <em>X</em> or wasn't doing <em>Y</em> in the FAQ but far from anything clear-cut and far from anything umpteen other questions (including highly voted questions) on the site do.</p> <hr> <p>But okay, I tried to take as given the explicit/implicit premises applied to my question, akin to a perfect storm:</p> <ol> <li><strong>boat programming</strong>: making a generic question and sticking "for academics" after it;</li> <li><strong>shopping</strong>: "my favourite <em>X</em> is <em>x'</em>, what's yours?";</li> <li><strong>software request</strong> for which there is a dedicated SE site.</li> </ol> <p>... and apply it to other questions on the site. Here's just some (not-so-)quick examples where I roughly tried to use my question as a yardstick (of course I'm biased, so make up your own minds):</p> <ol> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/1880/software-to-use-for-creating-posters-for-academic-conferences">Software to use for creating posters for academic conferences?</a> (28 upvotes, 11 answers.) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/18399/mapping-connections-between-topics-covered-in-academic-papers-does-such-a-tool">Mapping connections between topics covered in academic papers - does such a tool exist?</a> (3 upvotes, 1 answer) [Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17495/tools-for-data-organising-and-processing">Tools for data organising and processing</a> (5 upvotes, 2 answers) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/7242/saving-handwritten-notes-for-future-reference">Saving handwritten notes for future reference</a> (18 upvotes, 9 answers) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/1095/software-to-draw-illustrative-figures-in-papers">Software to draw illustrative figures in tables</a> (<strong>57 upvotes</strong>, 12 answers) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15504/is-there-an-open-source-tool-for-producing-bibtex-entries-from-paper-pdfs">Is there an open source tool for producing bibtex entries from paper PDFs?</a> (6 upvotes, 1 answer) [Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/5246/searching-for-a-quotation-manager">Searching for a quotation manager</a> (10 upvotes, 3 answers) [Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/5553/issue-tracking-when-writing-a-paper">Issue tracking when writing a paper</a> (19 upvotes, 3 answers) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/12761/note-taking-software-referencing-text-to-searchable-keywords">Note taking software: referencing text to searchable keywords</a> (2 upvotes, 1 answer) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/9654/do-you-find-a-computer-assisted-qualitative-data-analysis-tool-useful">Do you find a computer-assisted qualitative data analysis tool useful?</a> (2 upvotes, 1 answer) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/5253/internet-git-repository-for-collaboration-on-a-paper">Internet Git repository for collaboration on a paper</a> (18 upvotes, 3 answers) [Boat programming. Shopping. Software recommendation.]</p></li> <li><p>...</p></li> </ol> <p>I am not arguing one way or the other that these questions are off-topic for this site. I'm trying to highlight that the reason(s) my question was commented on/voted to close/migrated apply to many other questions. </p> <p>None of these questions have been migrated. None have close votes. None even have comments along the lines of the ones I got on my question.</p> <hr> <p>Likewise there's the (<a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/software"><code>software</code></a>) tag itself (which I didn't see until later):</p> <blockquote> <p>Queries related to various software used in academia. Questions shall not address highly technical aspects of the software but shall address features/issues highly relevant to academia.</p> </blockquote> <hr> <p>In any case, aside from being confused, I <a href="http://www.quickmeme.com/img/f9/f9aa925d576d3e1459ce99e1120c4ca290e05ecd9e68376e8d6494f3f5137eaf.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">feel</a> like I have already spent too much time on this and other topics. I'm not going to be engaging on this question. But maybe it helps give examples of something or other. I dunno. </p> <p>Having come to the end of this long meta-question whose effort&ndash;reward ratio is seemingly vanishingly small, irrespective of what you thought of the question itself, all I can put forward is the request to not view moderation tools as nails for which you have the hammer, and to moderate with clarity, consistency and common sense ... and reluctance.</p> <p>Ciao!</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1017, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>There are questions that clearly are out of scope and there are questions that are clearly in scope. I think the mods do a great job handling the questions that fall into the grey area. Yes you can find grey area questions that have not been closed. It is much harder to find the examples of the numerous \"boat\" questions that have been closed. This means what you see is a biased example.</p>\n\n<p>Don't look at your question as being dead. If it gets a good answer there, great, problem solved. If it doesn't, we can migrate it back, or you can ask a follow up. The whole point of the SE network is to get the best possible answers as efficiently as possible.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1018, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I would prefer to see a gray-area question be closed (and possibly migrated a little later) rather than migrated immediately.</p>\n\n<p>Migration is qualitatively different from other kinds of closure. Assuming we don't have accounts on the target site,</p>\n\n<h3>Closed Questions</h3>\n\n<ul>\n<li>High-rep users can vote to reopen</li>\n<li>Users can continue to discuss the closure in comments</li>\n<li>OP can edit the question to make it a better fit</li>\n</ul>\n\n<h3>Migrated Questions</h3>\n\n<ul>\n<li>High-rep users on the original site cannot vote to reopen</li>\n<li>Users on the original site cannot comment</li>\n<li>OP cannot edit the question to make it a better fit for the original site</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>I still don't really understand why a tag-cloud generator for an academic is different from a tag-cloud generator for anyone else (\"logic programming\" in an academic paper seems the same to me as \"Asian cuisine\" in a cooking blog, for example). </p>\n\n<p>But given that more than a few users who <em>can</em> vote to close saw this question and chose not to, I'd prefer not to migrate right away.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1019, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I was the mod who migrated that question. I didn't realize it would cause any issue, I apologize if it did. In that case, I migrated for two reasons:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>The question was off-topic here, as it was asking for a particular piece of technology. As stated by @ff524, the fact that it related to academia was entirely tangential and unrelated to the question. By the time I got to it there were already three other close votes on the question.</li>\n<li>There is an entire SE site dedicated to software recommendations, which (like all other SE sites) does not require any registration for the user to interact with the question.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>Given the nature of the question and that site, my immediate assumption was that the user would appreciate that move, as it would lead to more answers. Seeing how many upvotes are on this meta question, it appears that more people feel that it is on-topic here than off-topic.</p>\n\n<p>Given all that, <strong>the question has been re-opened</strong> for the time being. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1025, "author": "Jukka Suomela", "author_id": 351, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/351", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>It takes approximately <strong>12 seconds</strong> (and exactly <strong>4 mouse clicks</strong>) to log in to a new StackExchange site and create an account there.</p>\n\n<p>Migration is harmless. StackExchange sites are extremely well integrated. User accounts on new sites do not cost anything. There is a unified system through which you will get notifications related to your questions on any of the sites.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/16
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1016", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7746/" ]
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<p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/21095/5674">This</a> question here is practically asking whether or not a particular scheme used at his/her school is fair/ethical. Specifically the heart of the question says (emphasis mine): </p> <blockquote> <p>Do you <strong><em>think</em></strong> this is ethical? Is this a wise way to deal with cheating?</p> </blockquote> <p>Not so surprisingly the answers are opinionated, and sometimes not even answering the question at hand but instead providing different perspective (i.e. "<em>at our institution we do...</em>"). </p> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/21100/5674">This answer</a>, just as an example, focuses on how it's done in France, and has very little reference to it is fair or ethical, or wise for that matter. </p> <p>I like the question, <em>per se</em>, but as I understand the scope and <em>modus operandi</em> here on SE sites, this type of question is a bad fit. I have raised similar concerns <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/927/on-topic-within-scope-but-subjective-question-that-is-likely-to-generate-discus">before</a>, but haven't really gotten a whole lot of feedback. As I don't want to go on a downvote spree based on a hunch I would like to get some feedback/discussion on the matter.</p> <p>Opinions?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1017, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>There are questions that clearly are out of scope and there are questions that are clearly in scope. I think the mods do a great job handling the questions that fall into the grey area. Yes you can find grey area questions that have not been closed. It is much harder to find the examples of the numerous \"boat\" questions that have been closed. This means what you see is a biased example.</p>\n\n<p>Don't look at your question as being dead. If it gets a good answer there, great, problem solved. If it doesn't, we can migrate it back, or you can ask a follow up. The whole point of the SE network is to get the best possible answers as efficiently as possible.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1018, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I would prefer to see a gray-area question be closed (and possibly migrated a little later) rather than migrated immediately.</p>\n\n<p>Migration is qualitatively different from other kinds of closure. Assuming we don't have accounts on the target site,</p>\n\n<h3>Closed Questions</h3>\n\n<ul>\n<li>High-rep users can vote to reopen</li>\n<li>Users can continue to discuss the closure in comments</li>\n<li>OP can edit the question to make it a better fit</li>\n</ul>\n\n<h3>Migrated Questions</h3>\n\n<ul>\n<li>High-rep users on the original site cannot vote to reopen</li>\n<li>Users on the original site cannot comment</li>\n<li>OP cannot edit the question to make it a better fit for the original site</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>I still don't really understand why a tag-cloud generator for an academic is different from a tag-cloud generator for anyone else (\"logic programming\" in an academic paper seems the same to me as \"Asian cuisine\" in a cooking blog, for example). </p>\n\n<p>But given that more than a few users who <em>can</em> vote to close saw this question and chose not to, I'd prefer not to migrate right away.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1019, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I was the mod who migrated that question. I didn't realize it would cause any issue, I apologize if it did. In that case, I migrated for two reasons:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>The question was off-topic here, as it was asking for a particular piece of technology. As stated by @ff524, the fact that it related to academia was entirely tangential and unrelated to the question. By the time I got to it there were already three other close votes on the question.</li>\n<li>There is an entire SE site dedicated to software recommendations, which (like all other SE sites) does not require any registration for the user to interact with the question.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>Given the nature of the question and that site, my immediate assumption was that the user would appreciate that move, as it would lead to more answers. Seeing how many upvotes are on this meta question, it appears that more people feel that it is on-topic here than off-topic.</p>\n\n<p>Given all that, <strong>the question has been re-opened</strong> for the time being. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1025, "author": "Jukka Suomela", "author_id": 351, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/351", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>It takes approximately <strong>12 seconds</strong> (and exactly <strong>4 mouse clicks</strong>) to log in to a new StackExchange site and create an account there.</p>\n\n<p>Migration is harmless. StackExchange sites are extremely well integrated. User accounts on new sites do not cost anything. There is a unified system through which you will get notifications related to your questions on any of the sites.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/19
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1020", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/5674/" ]
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<p>There has been much discussion recently over when to to migrate questions away from the site. A while back, I found a question on meta.stackexchange which outlined the criteria one should use to make that decision. I can't find the question, but the process is as follows:</p> <ol> <li><strong>Is the question on-topic at your site?</strong> If yes, it should stay. (Whether it should be closed for other reasons is not relevant to migration.) If no...</li> <li><strong>Is the question on-topic at a different site?</strong> If yes, then...</li> <li><strong>Would the question be closed after migration?</strong> Some questions are on-topic but too broad, or poorly phrased, too detailed, or problematic for whatever reasons. Mods will generally handle this communication in the mod chat rooms, simply because posting a new question on meta anytime a potential migration comes up would quickly become unmanageable for both sites. This should be handled via flags, a mod will see the flag and we can ask the site whether they want it.</li> </ol> <p>So, I'm proposing that we use this as our template for migration.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1024, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I agree with this policy, I would like to extend it to consider the case <strong>where the OP asks for the migration</strong>. If a question is on-topic, but after discussion in the comments, it appears that the question would receive a better audience at another site <strong>and</strong> the OP wish to migrate the question accordingly, then the question should be migrated. </p>\n\n<p>In other words, if you think that a question would be better suited on another site, then leave a comment. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1033, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Given <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/q/1016/11365\">this</a>, I would add:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>If there is reason* to suspect that the answer to <strong>1. Is the question on-topic at your site?</strong> will be controversial, let the question be put on hold (and give a chance for OP to edit, high-rep users to vote to re-open, people to comment, etc.) before considering migration.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>* For example, reasons might include: if the question has more than a couple of upvotes, if there is an answer with more than a couple of upvotes, if there is a healthy debate in the comments as to whether it's on topic, etc.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1036, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>For the sake of keeping everything related to migration in this question, shall we apply the same criteria whether the question already has (good) answers or not? </p>\n\n<p>For instance, my question <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/109/non-linear-note-taking-software\">Is there any efficient non-linear note-taking software?</a> was recently suggested to be moved to SR.SE, which didn't exist when the question was asked. Although the question was not migrated, because it is somehow relevant to Ac.SE, I was wondering whether it should have been the same if there was no answers (there are currently 10 answers, and 44 up votes). </p>\n\n<p>Intuitively, I would rather not move questions with several good answers, because that means that somehow, the question is a good fit, especially that migrated questions are automatically deleted after a while, right? </p>\n" } ]
2014/05/20
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1023", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73/" ]
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<p>I flagged a <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/1363/women-in-academia/21219#comment44343_21219">comment</a> because it referred to somebody as a </p> <blockquote> <p>known, rabid male-hating feminist</p> </blockquote> <p>which seems rather rude and offensive to me.</p> <p>The flag was declined. Anybody have any insight on this?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1027, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>It appears that you flagged that multiple times. I cleared one of those flags because of the discussion we had <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/805/is-deleting-comments-a-form-of-censorship\">here</a>. The comment is borderline offensive, but personally (and, apparently, the other mods agree) I didn't find that it was so bad that it warrants deletion. We have a rather open attitude towards commenting here, and to be deleted I think we've generally held that the comment has to be more directly and blatantly insulting.</p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p>Edit: Do note that the mods clearing the flags are just acting based on essentially \"statutory law\", which is what we think we've done in the past and how the community wants us to behave. As always, if we'd like to act differently please post here, as @ff524 has done.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1028, "author": "Mad Scientist", "author_id": 201, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/201", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>While I think this comment can be considered offensive, I'm approaching this from a bit of a different perspective. I think that \"not constructive\" is the more useful argument in this case.</p>\n\n<p>Criticizing the sources of a specific answer is certainly something that should not be discouraged. There is a rather large spectrum between pointing out a bias of a certain source and a plain <em>ad hominem</em> attack, and while the former can be very valuable information, the latter is not useful at all.</p>\n\n<p>I would personally hold the users of this site to a higher standard than the one exhibited in this specific comment. So I think deletion of this comment would be warranted as it is not a constructive way to criticize this source, but a rather offensively worded <em>ad hominem</em> attack.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1030, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 4, "selected": true, "text": "<p>To answer my own question, I remain convinced that this comment should be deleted.</p>\n<p>Our <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/behavior\">help center</a> says that we expect users to</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>Be nice</strong>.</p>\n<p>Civility is required at all times; rudeness will not be tolerated. Treat others with the same respect you’d want them to treat you because we’re all here to learn, together. Be tolerant of others who may not know everything you know, and bring your sense of humor.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>A comment calling another individual (whether a member of Academia.SE or not, it doesn't really matter in my opinion) a &quot;known, rabid male-hating feminist&quot; has no place in respectful discourse. It seems to me like a clear violation of the above policy.</p>\n<p>StackExchange is different from many other &quot;communities&quot; on the Internet because we enforce certain standards of behavior, and I believe we are better for it. Offensively worded <em>ad hominem</em> attacks (to borrow a phrase from Mad Scientist) should not be tolerated here.</p>\n" } ]
2014/05/20
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1026", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p>The entries in the question listing on Academia.SE are much bigger vertically than other SE sites. There appears to be a lot more spacing above and below each question entry.</p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/efHUk.png" alt="Academia versus SO"></p> <p>Is there a reason Academia is different than most (all?) SE sites in regard to the question listing? I find it more difficult to scan and it requires more scrolling. The vast amount of emptiness makes me feel as if it is an oversight or a bug.</p> <p>Can this be changed???</p> <p>EDIT: This was also asked for in a <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/910/746">reply</a> on the original design post.</p>
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2014/05/25
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1038", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/746/" ]
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<p>I am not an academic, I am however a regular SE user. I see several Academia.SE questions in the "hot questions" sidebar. It seems that many of these questions go something like:</p> <ul> <li>"Is it appropriate to... ?"</li> <li>"Is it polite to... ?"</li> <li>"Is it normal to... ?"</li> </ul> <p>Why are there so many etiquette and protocol type questions at Academia.SE? </p> <p>Is this unique to Academia.SE or are there radically different standards for civility in real life academia?</p> <p>Some numbers from the SE API. There are 4614 total questions, a search for "appropriate" returns 665 results. Roughly 14%. </p>
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2014/05/28
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1049", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
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<p>Since graduation, I've observed that quite often, the number of tasks in the review list is not consistent. For instance, in the attached screenshot, the top-menu bar displays 3 tasks to review, while I can't see any to actually review. </p> <p>I've tried to open the site in a new browser, to avoid any cache issue, the problem remains the same. </p> <p>Note that this behaviour does not last, and after a while, the number disappears. Intuitively, it would seem like a refresh problem. </p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/XEisw.png" alt="screenshot"></p>
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2014/06/02
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1053", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
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<p>I'd like to draw your attention to this question:</p> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/21888/is-it-bad-for-ones-future-career-prospects-if-the-phd-thesis-topic-is-broad">Is it bad for one&#39;s future career prospects if the PhD thesis topic is broad?</a></p> <p>My concern is that we're rather quick at jumping to serious conclusions:</p> <ul> <li><p>Firstly, the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/behavior">etiquette</a></p> <blockquote> <p><strong>Be nice.</strong></p> <p>Civility is required at all times; rudeness will not be tolerated</p> </blockquote></li> <li><p>but even more important, I see harsh judgments (e.g. <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/21901/725">this answer</a> but also in the comments of @krammer which I cannot link) for which I do not see proper grounds based on the available information. This is not only rude, but it is IMHO also bad scientific practice. </p></li> </ul> <p>The 2 judgments are:</p> <ul> <li><p><strong>bad supervision:</strong> While I think it perfectly reasonable to ask about clarification whether the OP has discussed the question with their supervisor, and also to state in calm words if there is a smell of bad supervisor, IMHO </p> <ul> <li>it should be respected if the OP explicitly states "My question does not ask for your opinion about my supervisor." </li> <li>And I actually think that this statement is a symptom/follow-up reaction of the comments beeing rude. </li> <li>There is at least one rather obvious and perfectly harmless situation that could have lead to the OP's question:<br> The supervisor may have told the OP (or didn't need to tell because the OP knows) to update the working title of the thesis to a final title, and the OP has trouble formulating this title. Which is a perfectly reasonable task towards the end of the thesis, and a perfectly normal difficulty.<br> Thus, <em>I don't see objective grounds for the <strong>exclusive</strong> judgement that it is the supervision that is bad.</em> IMHO there is a huge difference between stating that the supervision is <em>the problem</em> and that problems with the supervision is <em>one possible</em> underlying reason. </li> </ul></li> <li><p><strong>the thesis does not deserve the grade:</strong> This is an extremely serious judgment. </p> <p>In a cursory search, I could not uncover the OPs real name and the papers. Noone else so far stated that they actually know the papers, not even after asking (besides the fact that the thesis may be long-form, and thus may have considerably more content than can be judged by us right now).<br> Yet we have statements that "set of loosely connected papers [...] would be called outcome of a good literature survey at my university." (Which may or may not be true, but in fact we don't even know whether the papers are just loosely connected) and "It will depend on the institution, but at the institution I work, you would not be two months from completion. You'd be two years from completion." </p> <p>Again, there are perfectly harmless possible explanations, e.g. as @adam.r pointed out in the comment to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/21904/725">@MHH's answer</a>: "Sometimes, a student is so absorbed in his work that it all seems obvious, and the student does not recognize how advanced his work really is."</p></li> </ul> <p>I think the underlying concern that we need to behave ourselves better is related to @badroit's concern with the "bad supervisor meme" at <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/975/dont-walk-dont-run-either">Don&#39;t walk. Don&#39;t run either</a></p>
[ { "answer_id": 1058, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>This question and the answers is really hard to follow, due to too many comments deleted, making other comments obsolete. EnergyNumbers' and aeismail's answers, that might have been relevant at some point, no longer answer the question (no mention to the career). </p>\n\n<p>I think the moderation team should have a deeper look at this question and tidy it up. </p>\n\n<p>Concerning your points: </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>but even more important, I see harsh judgments (e.g. this answer but also in the comments of @krammer which I cannot link) for which I do not see proper grounds based on the available information. This is not only rude, but it is IMHO also bad scientific practice.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>As said in the comments, if you see non constructive comments, flag for deletion. \nThat said, the OP explicitly comes to ask for judgement (<em>is it good/bad?</em>), so it is not really a surprise that people provide some judgment. As far as I can tell, no answer is supported by data, only by the opinion/experience of the answerers.</p>\n\n<p>I'm not by default against such question, but if they can't be managed properly, perhaps they should be closed a \"primarily opinion-based\". </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1059, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In hindsight, there is a fundamental problem with the question, in that the top-level question and the body subject ask two fundamentally different questions. I responded to the top-level question, rather than the questions posed in the body.</p>\n\n<p>The most equitable solution right now, I think, would be to split the question in two. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1060, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 4, "selected": true, "text": "<p>Yes, this question IMHO escalated quickly, and is certainly not the best showcase of the academia.SE community. Clearly, mistakes have been made, both by the OP and some of our community members - from the OP's knee-jerk follow-up comments and edits to EnergyNumber's very derogatory answer (which I downvoted). I originally also wanted to provide an answer this question, but the current state of the discussion leaves me with no desire to get involved.</p>\n\n<p>However, I don't think that this is an inherent problem of our Stack Exchange. I am pretty much daily around here (apparently I am bored at work), and this is one of the few, maybe even the first time, I see this happening to this extend. I would not say that we are in general overly fast to jump to conclusions. The \"bad advisor\" tag certainly gets thrown around a bit too loosely here, though. Imho, we should indeed watch ourselves a bit in that regard.</p>\n" } ]
2014/06/04
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1057", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/725/" ]
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<p>As it currently stands <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/23897/challenge-the-caste-based-reservation-policy-system-in-supreme-court">this question</a> is off topic and not a good fit for our site since it is mainly about legal issues. That said, it sounds like the Indian university system has some issues. I think a great question for us would be one that focuses on how to go about changing a fundamental university policy that is controversial.</p> <p>Does anyone else think this question is salvageable?</p>
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2014/06/24
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1066", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929/" ]
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<p>I found this <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/24028/how-should-a-student-act-towards-a-prejudiced-instructor">question</a>. The titular question is "How should a student act towards a prejudiced instructor?" This seems like a great question for us. Looking at the question itself, the OP seems to be suggesting that there was sexual discrimination because the professor is a feminist. Again, that is a perfectly fine topic. The issue I see is that I don't see any evidence of sexual discrimination. The professor's response to discussing grades with a 200-pound 6'3" professional boxer was that she felt intimidated. A question about how to deal with a professor who feels intimated by you is on topic. To me the two issues (dealing with sexual discrimination and a professor who feels intimidated by you) are so unrelated that I wanted the question clarified especially since claims of sexual discrimination often seem like acts of sexual discrimination. Is it possible to clarify the question?</p>
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At the end of the semester the department head told me that she has had numerous issues with males in her classes and that he was looking into it with the Dean. </p>\n\n<p>He also said that she said that she was intimidated by me because I was a big male and he even confirmed with other students that I was never aggressive around her. He apologized. I got my papers back. He told me that I would have gotten A's on them. Said I would receive P's on report card. </p>\n\n<p>She left the school for undisclosed reasons after the spring semester as a tenured professor. </p>\n\n<p>The question is more about how I should have handled it in that situation. She was sexist. There was an outcome. But I didn't state those in the question because it would taint the responses/answers.</p>\n\n<p>Also as far as your mod powers to close a question you need to lay off. I find it abusive that you don't like a sentence so you close a question. <strong>I don't have to write my question for your personal PC views.</strong> No offense because you could be a great mod and great person but I feel this sort of censorship is the opposite of SE philosophy. </p>\n\n<p>I didn't say I had this \"feminist bitch teacher\". No I just represented facts. There was no opinion in my whole question. I am sorry that if you hear the word feminist and all of a sudden it conveys horrible things to you. That is something you need to keep under control if you are going to be a mod.</p>\n\n<p>I would personally like to hear how you would reword the sentence that offended you.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1074, "author": "Alexandros", "author_id": 10042, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10042", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think you went overboard with your moderation on this post. The situation as it is described by the OP is a perfectly valid one and if you needed clarification or the question needed editing, you should ask so. Also, closing a question which already had been upvoted is something I have never encountered in a SE site.</p>\n\n<p>Another issue with your moderation is that it was very fast. If any question is a not a good one, waiting for an hour or so is usually enough for any SE community to judge its merit. Closing sooner than that, especially in grey area questions is something that should be generally avoided. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1075, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Thanks for opening this meta question.</p>\n\n<p>I have to say that the quick closing of this question was a surprise to me. Yes, the question seemed relatively biased and had a bit of an anti-feminist touch to it. However, this kind of questions (\"My advisor / professor did something unfair. How should I react?\") are almost always biased, fragmented, confusing, and (I would assume) oftentimes not factually correct as written. We usually do not close down these questions, but point out what inconsistencies we see, and what we think the OP should do based on the given information. StrongBad seemed to hold this question to much higher standards than comparable earlier questions.</p>\n\n<p>In my opinion, I would prefer if the mods would use their power to unilaterally put a question on hold only for more clear-cut cases. A good example was a question put on hold by ff524 today, but I can't find it anymore. This question was about 15 fundamental questions in one, so it was entirely clear that it will be put on hold. blankip's question was much less obvious.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1076, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Just a remark from someone who was on the other side not so long ago: <strong>you did not abuse your mod powers.</strong> We have had some problems in the past with posts related to gender discrimination, where questions could quickly turn into flamewars. Considering the lack of clarity in the original question, <strong>closing it quickly was a correct thing to do.</strong> </p>\n\n<p>A question on-hold, even by a mod, does not disappear, people can add comments, edit it, and can discuss about it on meta, which is exactly what happened. No reputation was lost in the process, no harm was done. <strong>This was not censorship</strong>, and that's why we have elected mods, to avoid having potentially problematic posts. </p>\n\n<p>That said, one thing that could be held against you, is that you said in the <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1009/102\">questionnaire</a> that: </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>As a mod I would try and shape the site with up votes, down votes, comments, meta questions/answers, and chat instead of using close/reopen votes (excluding blatant spam). I would not generally just mod hammer questions, but when the voting is clear (e.g., one or two more regular user votes are needed to close a down voted answer, I would happily hit it with a mod hammer vote).</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>As for the question itself, since we only have only one side of the story, it's hard to make any judgment, and all the details make it look like a rant rather than an objective question. I agree with you that there are two interesting questions: </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>I feel I've been discriminated, what should I do? (and it's not up to us to judge whether there was indeed discrimination or not.)</li>\n<li>I think I'm intimidating my professor, what should I do? </li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Somehow, the question is a mix of both, which is not ideal to provide a clear answer. </p>\n" } ]
2014/06/27
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1071", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929/" ]
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<p>My question is about how the moderators decide on the questions and comments.<br /> Every person has the right to express his opinion. In case of the questions posted on this site, the opinions can be either in favor of a comment or question or they may not be.</p> <p>Moderators have that much access that when they feel that a question is out of the policies of the site, put the question on hold. But, this should happen in case that they find a question in <em>direct</em> conflict to the policies of the site, not in direct conflict to what they prefer or their emotions.<br /> Because of the level of access these guys have, when they find a question either in conflict to the policies or what they like, they immediately put the question on hold. So, how the website minimizes the moderators' faults and tries to avoid them from emotional decisions. We are all human and we all may make mistakes in our decisions.</p> <p>I think that putting the questions on hold or locking the questions should not happen immediately and this level of access should be decreased.<br /> Moderators should express why they think that the question conflicts the policies, put their opinion on poll and if some number of other users and moderators agreed, (for instance, two moderators and two users who are not moderator's access) then they put the question on hold. The site can even put some keys on each comment that the users tell that the question is broad, the comment is impolite and this way moderators can be informed what other users think about a question.</p> <p>I am posting this because something like this happened to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/24278/is-it-necessary-that-an-academic-person-be-online-or-it-is-just-waste-of-time">a question of mine</a>. The moderator put a comment that this question is too broad and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask">subjective</a>. In this link we read:</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>Constructive subjective questions:</strong></p> <ul> <li>inspire answers that explain “why” and “how”</li> <li>tend to have long, not short, answers</li> <li>have a constructive, fair, and impartial tone</li> <li>invite sharing experiences over opinions</li> <li>insist that opinion be backed up with facts and references</li> <li>are more than just mindless social fun</li> </ul> </blockquote> <p>When you read that question, If we consider and accept that the question is subjective (while I do not think so), it can be assumed that it is a <strong>Constructive Question</strong> because; It inspires answers that explain “why” and “how”; tends to have long, not short, answers (as some answers were discussed on the page); invites sharing experiences over opinions (as users answered the question with their experiences); and is more than just mindless social fun (the question is not for fun at all!).</p> <p>That is why I think the question has never had to be locked and put on a hold. I explained this to the moderator and they did not pay any attention to this comment.</p> <p>I do not think that this question needs any edit for being completed and come out of the hold. It is a complete question.</p> <p>This is what happens to the similar questions: One moderator marks the question as problematic question, two or three other moderators come and give minus mark to the question and use their access to put the question on hold. Nobody even thinks about that their decision (even it is the decision of two or three moderator) may be wrong and can be discussed more.</p> <p>I think that the way moderators lock a question should be revised, their access on locking the questions should be limited and become dependent on a different policy; moreover, they should be advised to be more <strong>polite</strong> to the users (regarding to the words they use <strong>and</strong> they way they treat them and their actions).</p> <p><em><strong>After discussions:</strong></em></p> <blockquote> <p>The post on Academia edited thoroughly based on the discussion made here on Meta and the title of the question changed to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/24278/how-to-encourage-researchers-to-make-more-use-of-online-resources-to-improve-the">How to encourage researchers to make more use of online resources to improve their career?</a>; however, with respect to the people who talked about the problem here and made policies more clear; I am still not convinced by the behavior of the moderators who acted on that question.</p> </blockquote>
[ { "answer_id": 1081, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>There is a lot in your question and I am only going to tackle a bit of it now. There is a big difference between locking a question and putting a question on hold. Any user with sufficient reputation can vote to reopen a question that is on hold even if the question has not been edited and was closed by a moderator. This is a nice safety net in case the moderator acts in a manner that goes against the views of the community. Your question currently has no reopen votes or up votes, so it seems the community thinks your question should stay on hold until it is improved. At this point you should consider using the comments, chat and meta to look for ways to improve the question, or rally support to reopen the question. All you need it 5 users to vote to reopen it.</p>\n\n<p>That said one moderator and one regular user voted to close the question, another moderator voiced support in the comments that the question needed to be improved, and a third moderator is now chiming in that the question seems too broad. That said the 4 of us could be wrong, and if you can find 5 people to support your cause the question can be reopened.</p>\n\n<p>The question seems too broad to me because \"online\" really encompasses a huge number of activities. I search for research online, I mark papers online, I teach online, I review papers online, I do committee work online, I waste time on AC.Se, etc. trying to sum up the time spent on all these activities, doesn't seem right. I think the question would be better if it was narrower and only focused on one online activity.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1082, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>One of the issues raised in this post is</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>they should be advised to be more polite to the users (regarding to the words they use and they way they treat them and their actions).</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Since I have cleaned up comments on the original question, I am posting them here for the sake of transparency, so others can decide if anybody needed to be more polite here. See image below.</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/qU7ww.png\" alt=\"comment transcript\"></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1083, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Coming to the question, I would have likely voted to place it on hold because I don't understand what your question is. Let's look at the last paragraph, which I think is where your question is defined:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Keeping in mind that each academic person has some careers and responsibilities, but he has to be up-to-date and pay enough attention to online life and internet; does being online improves our career or is it just a waste of time and the person will be more successful being focused on hard copies of the publications; how much is it normal for an academic person to be online?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>You're asking us to answer way too many different questions: should one be online at all? Should we avoid internet use? How much should someone be online, if they're online? </p>\n\n<p>Asking people how much they're online is a poll question, which is not what the Stack Exchange question-and-answer format is designed for. Similarly, there's no \"experience-based\" answer for if being online is a good thing—unless you're looking for a list of useful activities (which is <em>also</em> against the general guidelines).</p>\n\n<p>The question is not a bad one <em>in general principle</em>, but it is a poor fit for <em>this site</em>.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1086, "author": "410 gone", "author_id": 96, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/96", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Asking questions on a Stack Exchange site isn't obvious. And it's not a right. It's a privilege; and there's <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/how-to-ask\">a right way to do it</a>, and <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask\">many wrong ways to do it</a>.</p>\n\n<p>In order to maintain the site's usefulness and purpose, there are a bunch of moderation tools available; in order of increasing access: to low rep users, high rep users, moderators, and SE staff.</p>\n\n<p>When questions aren't a good fit, then a question is put on hold, giving the original poster, and the community, chance to put it into shape.</p>\n\n<p>Warning signs that the community might choose to put a question on hold are:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>several questions in one: indicating that the question is too broad, meaning that it should be split into several concise separate questions, posted one at a time;</li>\n<li>a lot of text in the question, little of which pertains to a specific question: indicating that the OP has used the privilege of asking a question to post a rant that would be better put as a blog post;</li>\n<li>or soliciting opinions: indicating that there won't be a right answer, and that this would be better asked in chat or on a forum, not a Q&amp;A site.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Your question has managed to trigger all three of those warning signs for me. Others agree that the question should be put on hold. If it's not edited into shape, it will get deleted.</p>\n\n<p>And please don't read into other people's intentions or motivations. You're not telepathic. Accusing others of acting on emotional responses is unconstructive.</p>\n" } ]
2014/07/02
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1080", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>One or two questions of mine are correctly marked as duplicate in the community. </p> <p>How can I find the duplicate of my question before I post the question in the site? </p> <p>Because it is not easy to find similar questions by simple search in the community.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1088, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 4, "selected": true, "text": "<p>Unfortunately, it's really just mostly searching. You can limit your search using tags—just include the tag name, surrounded by brackets, when doing your search (e.g., \"<a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=%5Bphd%5D+grades\">[phd] grades</a>\"). That helps limit the search. You can also use \"<a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=%5Bphd%5D+grades+is%3Aquestion\">is:question</a>\" to only search only questions (e.g., not answers). Past that, it's just making sure you use good search terms. Good luck!</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1089, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>This is too long for a comment ...</p>\n\n<p>Before asking a question it is best to have a quick search for similar questions. If you don't find a match and then ask a question that eventually gets closed as a duplicate, it is not an awful thing. While most closed questions eventually get deleted, duplicates are special and tend to get left on the system. This means that a duplicate question makes finding the original question a little easier for the next person.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1090, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Note that when you start typing a new question title into the \"<a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/ask\">Ask a Question</a>\" box, it lists some possible duplicates immediately underneath. Read through these questions to make sure you are not asking a duplicate.</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/zWO1q.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1092, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In addition to all the correct answers, I have to agree that the search features of StackExchange are not exactly inspiring. I myself often think \"I think we have seen this question before\", but when I go and look for it, I can't find any duplicate. It always seems to me that I am only able to find a duplicate if I remember at least some words of the question title.</p>\n\n<p>As such, for a new user, I would propose to do a quick search, and if you can't find a clear answer, just go ahead and ask your question. If it is closed as a duplicate, you at least know where to look. Always remember that a question being closed is not an insult, and does not cost you reputation on the site.</p>\n" } ]
2014/07/06
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1087", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>Inspired by talking to a fellow Academia user at SciPy:</p> <p>Every SE site seems to have a particular genre of questions that are essentially unanswerable. I've come to believe that the questions we get wherein someone asks, with an accompany tale of their career, coursework to date, interests, etc. "How do get into a top program in X" or "Should I apply to the University of Y".</p> <p>There questions have, in my mind, three problems:</p> <ol> <li>Many are too specific - they only generalize to someone specific.</li> <li>They're <em>also</em> too broad, because they're not actually asking an actionable question.</li> <li>They're inherently unanswerable. The people who know (the admission committee of University of X's Department of Y) won't answer, and no one else knows.</li> </ol> <p>While these get closed fairly frequently, should we consider adding language discouraging these types of questions in the FAQ?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1094, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The fewer unique criteria and guidelines we have, the better, in my opinion, If questions can already be handled under existing rules, then I'd rather proceed that way, rather than introducing special categories. \"Don't ask this, don't do that,\" is not a god way to run a site like this.</p>\n\n<p>Besides, such an approach will lead to some potentially useful questions being placed on hold just because of the way the question writer approached it, rather than being a bad question.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1097, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>As a counterpoint to aeismail's statement <em>\"The fewer unique criteria and guidelines we have, the better\"</em>, I would say that there are very good reasons for having somewhat redundant specific bans for common questions. The point of having rules in the first place is so that users, specifically new users, know what questions are in scope and which are not. The fact that we get so many of these questions clearly shows that new users are <em>not</em> able to tell that these questions are not in scope from the current rules.</p>\n\n<p><strong>I am very much in favor of adding a specific ban for this kind of question.</strong></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1103, "author": "Adam Davis", "author_id": 11901, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11901", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The problem with defining very specific bans is that it's very difficult to nail something down so well that it's easy to understand and apply it. There will always be a way to approach the ban so closely that it's hard to outright reject it, but it's still essentially the same type of question we are trying to avoid.</p>\n\n<p>In general, where possible, it's better to define the community guidelines as principles that would also catch these problematic questions, rather than go down the path of writing a specific exclusion for each and every type of question we don't like.</p>\n\n<p>Then, once the principles are defined, lead by example. Close these questions appropriately, add comments to teach others the principles that guide closing and encourage them to close such questions as well. </p>\n\n<p>Over time the community will become aware of and accept that the principles cover certain types (or \"smells\" if you will) of questions and rather than having a hard line that you're constantly arguing with others about, you'll have a nice wide gray area that the community will define for you, and you shouldn't have to worry about it. </p>\n\n<p>Great questions posed in this manner might succeed. Bad questions posed in this manner will generally be closed.</p>\n\n<p>Everyone will be happy, and you won't be extending the battle over words for months and years, adding more and more language to the definition as you go along.</p>\n\n<p>Teach them correct principles, and let them govern themselves.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1112, "author": "Kogesho", "author_id": 7773, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7773", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>When a user wants to do X and asks for help without giving life story, users automatically ask for details regarding the professional life as comments and the author edits the question and adds asked details. So it is essential for us users to read a life story or detailled paragraph to consider different aspects and give a good answer.</p>\n\n<p>The part you refer to as life story of course can include unrelated information, however most of the time it also requires what potential answerers require to post useful advice. While the life story makes the question very specific, the key information in it (such as I am doing post doc, I am x years old, I have been an advisor for y years at z university z area) also makes the question also very general. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1113, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 5, "selected": true, "text": "<p>I know I'm new here, but here's a proposed wording for a custom close reason that I hope will be helpful:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it is not answerable by the Academia community; you may need to ask an advisor, an admissions committee, or some other internal group, as it is not answerable by the general public. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Or, alternately, if you don't want to mention specific groups (\"But mine isn't on the list!\"):</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it is not answerable by the Academia community; you may need to ask someone specific to your situation, as the general public cannot completely answer this question. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This, I think, covers the point of what you're asking. It's not really about the life story, but about the answerability of the questions. </p>\n\n<p>It's generally alright on Stack Exchange to have a long question, as long as it's clear, readable, and answerable. This completes the trifecta of moderation tools that captures questions which fall out of these criteria. </p>\n" } ]
2014/07/08
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1093", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118/" ]
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<p>By a review on the tags lists, we see that some of the tags do not have any wiki or excerpts. I just want to know, which one is more prefered, a tag without any wiki or excerpt; or a tag with a wiki excerpt that just says "{topic}: this tag is for questions about {topic}" is better than nothing?</p>
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The point of having rules in the first place is so that users, specifically new users, know what questions are in scope and which are not. The fact that we get so many of these questions clearly shows that new users are <em>not</em> able to tell that these questions are not in scope from the current rules.</p>\n\n<p><strong>I am very much in favor of adding a specific ban for this kind of question.</strong></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1103, "author": "Adam Davis", "author_id": 11901, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11901", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The problem with defining very specific bans is that it's very difficult to nail something down so well that it's easy to understand and apply it. There will always be a way to approach the ban so closely that it's hard to outright reject it, but it's still essentially the same type of question we are trying to avoid.</p>\n\n<p>In general, where possible, it's better to define the community guidelines as principles that would also catch these problematic questions, rather than go down the path of writing a specific exclusion for each and every type of question we don't like.</p>\n\n<p>Then, once the principles are defined, lead by example. Close these questions appropriately, add comments to teach others the principles that guide closing and encourage them to close such questions as well. </p>\n\n<p>Over time the community will become aware of and accept that the principles cover certain types (or \"smells\" if you will) of questions and rather than having a hard line that you're constantly arguing with others about, you'll have a nice wide gray area that the community will define for you, and you shouldn't have to worry about it. </p>\n\n<p>Great questions posed in this manner might succeed. Bad questions posed in this manner will generally be closed.</p>\n\n<p>Everyone will be happy, and you won't be extending the battle over words for months and years, adding more and more language to the definition as you go along.</p>\n\n<p>Teach them correct principles, and let them govern themselves.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1112, "author": "Kogesho", "author_id": 7773, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7773", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>When a user wants to do X and asks for help without giving life story, users automatically ask for details regarding the professional life as comments and the author edits the question and adds asked details. So it is essential for us users to read a life story or detailled paragraph to consider different aspects and give a good answer.</p>\n\n<p>The part you refer to as life story of course can include unrelated information, however most of the time it also requires what potential answerers require to post useful advice. While the life story makes the question very specific, the key information in it (such as I am doing post doc, I am x years old, I have been an advisor for y years at z university z area) also makes the question also very general. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1113, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 5, "selected": true, "text": "<p>I know I'm new here, but here's a proposed wording for a custom close reason that I hope will be helpful:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it is not answerable by the Academia community; you may need to ask an advisor, an admissions committee, or some other internal group, as it is not answerable by the general public. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Or, alternately, if you don't want to mention specific groups (\"But mine isn't on the list!\"):</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it is not answerable by the Academia community; you may need to ask someone specific to your situation, as the general public cannot completely answer this question. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This, I think, covers the point of what you're asking. It's not really about the life story, but about the answerability of the questions. </p>\n\n<p>It's generally alright on Stack Exchange to have a long question, as long as it's clear, readable, and answerable. This completes the trifecta of moderation tools that captures questions which fall out of these criteria. </p>\n" } ]
2014/07/11
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1101", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>In <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/25754/should-professors-help-masters-research-students-to-find-a-research-topic?noredirect=1#comment53330_25754">this question of mine</a>, something is asked which I strongly believe that it is not opinion based and can be precisely answered by members of academia. However, one of the users thought this question is basically opinion based and became so angry with it. His main problem seems to be that if the person asking question is not a faculty member, it is not his duty to ask why something seems odd in the university and because he is a student, he should never think about the logic behind the actions.</p> <p>My question here is, even if a question seems opinion-based; the memebrs of community have some strong reasons for and againts it. If every one has his own way of doing something, it does not mean that everybody is right because it depends on the opinions. Even there are different ways of doing something, by comparing the reasons and experiences, we can reach the point that there is an answer to the questions (which are almost seem to be opinion based).</p> <p>Could you please help me understand what the problem is with this question and how should I avoid such conflicts in the community?</p>
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If the community feels the question is too opinion-based then it will be closed; if not, it won't. </p>\n\n<p>As is -- in my opinion, obviously -- the question lacks nuance in a fatal way. There is not an abstractly, globally best relationship between advisor and student. Thinking that there might be is: well, I can't think of a word other than naive. A similar naivete applies to the person who thinks that there is a best way to teach or TA a class, or that all women (or all men) want the same thing in a dating relationship, and so forth. What a master's degree is, and what constitutes a master's thesis, is probably the most highly variable quantity in all of academia. Even within my own department, the variation in standards and approaches to master's theses is extreme. In fact, with respect to the dichotomy that the OP proposes, most people who have advised several students have done <em>both</em> practices, because each is appropriate in some situations. Many advisors and students adopt a combination of the two alternatives within the course of the thesis work. The idea that advisors do not act based on some globally held \"strong reasons\" is an important nuance that the OP seems to be missing. </p>\n\n<p>My discussion in the comments with the OP as a master's student was an attempt to find an acceptable question behind the question asked and an attempt to find out how the answer to the question would actually be useful to him in his current situation. (As written, the question is either from an \"abstract\" perspective -- which, as I have tried to explain above, I find almost wholly vacuous -- or from the advisor's perspective. Since the OP is not actually advising master's students but in fact <em>is</em> a master's student, there is a certain disingenuousness here.) This did not go well: he did not want to do this. That's fine, but of course it makes the question more likely to get closed. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1111, "author": "Nate Eldredge", "author_id": 1010, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/1010", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>If your question simply asks \"Which is better, X or Y?\" then it is vague and should be closed for that reason. It does not make clear what you mean by \"better\". Here are some ways that it could be clarified, and the likely results:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p>\"Is there a general consensus in the community as to which of X or Y is better?\" That may be a reasonable question, but very likely the answer is just \"No, there is no consensus\". If you already know a significant number of apparently reasonable people preferring each alternative, that pretty much establishes that there is no consensus and you don't need to ask.</p></li>\n<li><p>\"Would lots of people please state their preferences between X and Y, so that I can try to get a sense as to which is more preferred?\" This is a poll question. Not acceptable.</p></li>\n<li><p>\"Have controlled surveys been done to determine what fraction of people prefer X over Y?\" A reasonable question, but may not get an answer if no such surveys exist or nobody here knows about them. (You might get an answer <em>explaining</em> why nobody is likely to ever to have done such a survey.)</p></li>\n<li><p>\"What are some arguments in favor of X and Y, respectively?\" Probably an acceptable question, but note that it does not attempt to give a conclusive answer as to which is better.</p></li>\n<li><p>\"Is there objective evidence as to which of X and Y is more likely to result in desirable outcome Z?\" Here you have an objective question that may have an objective answer. Notice that the subjective term \"better\" has been replaced with a specific criterion. In the question at hand, for instance, one could ask \"Is one of these approaches to choosing thesis topics associated with higher graduation rates?\" Or, higher job placement rates, more publications, etc. Note that you could get different answers depending on which criterion you choose: maybe one approach makes it more likely that you will graduate but with fewer papers. And in many cases it may be that no study has been done, or nobody here knows about it, and in that case you will probably not get an answer. (You might get an answer <em>explaining</em> why such a study is not likely to exist.)</p></li>\n</ul>\n" } ]
2014/07/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1106", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>Many of my tag edit suggestions are rejected. Despite the fact that some of them are correctly judged, for many of those rejections I can not find any good reason. Could you please explain your reasons for rejecting some of them?</p> <ul> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12334">education</a><br> What is the reason that the tag edit is rejected because of <strong>incorrectness</strong> and <strong>minor edit</strong>? Which tag excerpt is better? The previous five word excerpt or the suggested one with two exact sentences that address the questions under the tag?</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12329">homework</a><br> Where is incorrectness in my edits?</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12328">repository</a>; <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12356">recommendation-letter</a><br> Looking at the proposed edits to these two tags, I can not understand why that edit is <strong>too minor</strong>; why the suggested edit <strong>is not substantive improvements addressing multiple issues in the post</strong>. The question here is was the previous tag better than the suggested one?! I don't think so.</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12354">publishing</a><br> Why do we need the exact copy and paste of excerpts and wiki notes? The reader goes to the excerpt and reads the exacet copy of the wiki. I think the excerpt should be deleted and give the chance to the tag to be seen and better excerpts be provided to it. Exact copy and pasting was useless so the excerpt was deleted.</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12345">poster</a><br> In this question, why do we need to always have the word "Questions about..." or "Queries about..." every body know that this site is a Q&amp;A website. The only use of excerpts are to give a clue to the reader that what is being questioned. So, those extra words are omitted.</p></li> <li><p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12340">nsf</a><br> in this tag, the complete information is written in the wiki, so in the excerpt we only need to attract the reader's attention to the abbreviation of NSF, why do we have extra information in the excerpt?</p></li> </ul>
[ { "answer_id": 1117, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think there are two issues at play here:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>None of the above edits are substantial. They are all adding very general, basic knowledge, which doesn't really serve to add anything to the page.</li>\n<li>For some of the edits there seems to be a language barrier as well. The education and reference letter ones specifically stand out to me as containing awkward verbiage and grammar.</li>\n<li>For the NSF tag specifically, you seem to have removed useful information. Not sure why you did that.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>As with other types of edits, tag edit should substantially improve the content. Wordsmithing and/or minor changes will likely not pass the bar as a useful edit.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1118, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I rejected <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12334\">education</a> because the questions in this tag (and in general, the word <em>education</em>) are not about \"period of time in a person's life when he attends academic institutes.\" They are about education as \"the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction\" (Merriam Webster's definition). Therefore, the suggested edit is incorrect.</p>\n\n<p>Other edits were rejected because they did not constitute a substantive improvement (as eykanal explained). (It shows that I rejected <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/12329\">homework</a> for being incorrect, but I meant to reject it for being minor; just clicked the wrong button.)</p>\n\n<p>The criteria I apply for deciding whether an edit is a \"substantive improvement\" or not is as follows:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Is the new tag excerpt/wiki better than the old one <em>at helping users understand how/when to use the tag</em>? Then accept.</li>\n<li>Does the new tag excerpt/wiki fix a <em>major error</em>? (Not just a matter of style, but something that is actually not correct). Then accept.</li>\n<li>Else, reject.</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>The other edits you list did not meet either of the criteria for being a \"substantive improvement,\" and so they were rejected for being \"minor.\"</p>\n\n<p>Finally, some edits were rejected because they remove useful information. I'm not sure why you would do that. If you think the information could be better, then improve it, don't just remove it.</p>\n" } ]
2014/07/15
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1116", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>There seems to be a strong consensus that we need a new custom close reason to ban “I want to do X, Here's My Life Story…” questions. See the meta discussion <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1093/time-to-expressly-ban-i-want-to-do-x-heres-my-life-story-questions">here</a>.</p> <p>User <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1113/929">Emrakul</a> proposed the following:</p> <blockquote> <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it is not answerable by the Academia community; you may need to ask someone specific to your situation, as the general public cannot completely answer this question.</p> </blockquote> <p>I am not too keen on referring the the academia community as the "general public" and was hoping to get some feedback on the exact wording.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1121, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Based on multiple reactions we have had from closing questions, I would be careful and avoid saying \"the question <strong>cannot</strong> be answer\". Most of the time, it is actually very possible to answer the question (<em>do X, don't do Y</em>), the problem is that there is no way to know whether the answer is a <strong>good answer</strong>. </p>\n\n<p>I am not entirely convinced why the reason \"cannot be generalised to others\" or \"primarily opinion based\" is not enough, but if we must have another one, I'd rather go along the lines</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it seems to seek specific advice for a very specific situation, which is unlikely to yield an objectively correct answer. We would recommend to first ask the question to people with a good understanding of your situation. </p>\n</blockquote>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1122, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>How about:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it is not answerable by\n the Academia community; you may need to ask someone with specific\n knowledge of your situation, as it may involve internal policy,\n institutional norms or other information that is not widely known.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1180, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To avoid any confusion with my previous answer, I would like to suggest to amend the text, to drop the \"recommending\" part, following djechlin's comment. More specifically, I would suggest the following text: </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it seems to seek specific advice for a very specific situation, and it's likely that only someone with a good understanding of your situation will be able to provide an objectively correct answer.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" } ]
2014/07/17
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1120", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929/" ]
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<p>I have noticed that the moderator has deleted the tag I created <code>contribution</code>.</p> <p>The process was this:</p> <ul> <li>She felt the tag is duplicate;</li> <li>She posted <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1126/usefulness-of-the-contribution-tag">a question on Meta</a> to ask about the usefulness of the tag;</li> <li>after less than one day (22 July), without any answers supporting to delete the tag The tag is deleted.</li> </ul> <p>I want to know, how many answers in a delete proposal on meta is required to delete the tag?</p> <p>I am feeling that the moderator is having wrong adaptation of the site's policies and is imposing her personal desires on new user; which she directly brings the user's problem to meta or chat and after one day, she does every thing she wants. Where is this policy written on help center, I have read the help center triple times and found no sign of such policy and process that described above.</p> <p>This action is against the following instructions on help center because it was not patient, respectful, did not led by example and more important it was not fair.</p> <p>When I read the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/site-moderators">help center for this moderation action</a>,</p> <blockquote> <p>We generally expect that moderators:<br> - are patient and fair<br> - lead by example<br> - show respect for their fellow community members in their actions and words are open to some light but firm moderation to keep the community on track and resolve (hopefully) uncommon disputes and exceptions</p> </blockquote>
[ { "answer_id": 1121, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Based on multiple reactions we have had from closing questions, I would be careful and avoid saying \"the question <strong>cannot</strong> be answer\". Most of the time, it is actually very possible to answer the question (<em>do X, don't do Y</em>), the problem is that there is no way to know whether the answer is a <strong>good answer</strong>. </p>\n\n<p>I am not entirely convinced why the reason \"cannot be generalised to others\" or \"primarily opinion based\" is not enough, but if we must have another one, I'd rather go along the lines</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it seems to seek specific advice for a very specific situation, which is unlikely to yield an objectively correct answer. We would recommend to first ask the question to people with a good understanding of your situation. </p>\n</blockquote>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1122, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>How about:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it is not answerable by\n the Academia community; you may need to ask someone with specific\n knowledge of your situation, as it may involve internal policy,\n institutional norms or other information that is not widely known.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1180, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To avoid any confusion with my previous answer, I would like to suggest to amend the text, to drop the \"recommending\" part, following djechlin's comment. More specifically, I would suggest the following text: </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This question appears to be off-topic because it seems to seek specific advice for a very specific situation, and it's likely that only someone with a good understanding of your situation will be able to provide an objectively correct answer.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" } ]
2014/07/22
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1128", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>When one is asking a question related to social websites on Academia like the cases which are found by searching keywords like <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=facebook">Facebook</a> with almost 85 results, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=linkedin">LinkedIn</a> with 53 results, etc. s/he has only <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/website" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;website&#39;" rel="tag">website</a> option to choose a suitable tag for the question which seems to be too broad for the purpose of the social websites and is not specific enough. There are also some other tags like <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/community" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;community&#39;" rel="tag">community</a> or <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/society" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;society&#39;" rel="tag">society</a> but none of which are so relevant to those question types.</p> <p>Should a <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/social-website" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;social-website&#39;" rel="tag">social-website</a> (or an equivalent tag) be created on the Academia and if creating this tag is reasonable, what would be a good Tag-Excerpt for it?</p> <hr> <p><strong>update and conclusion</strong><br> After a few answers are posted to this question with positive vote rate; now, a tag suggestion (including the tag title, tag excerpt and tag wiki) for <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/social-media" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;social-media&#39;" rel="tag">social-media</a> has been posted in <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1146/15723">this answer</a>. </p> <p>Please post your suggestions and comments to that answer to improve the suggested tag title and excerpt.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1136, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>My preference would be to improve the tag wiki excerpt for <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/website\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;website&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">website</a> rather than create a new tag. For example, the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/website\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;website&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">website</a> excerpt could be changed to:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Websites for a research group, conference, project, or individual academic; social media and academic community sites like LinkedIn, Facebook, PubPeer and ResearchGate; or sites and blogs about academia and higher education.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This, because I find it ambiguous as to whether certain sites are \"social\". It's easy to say Facebook is social, but is a blog social? What about a class forum on an online LMS? In academia, there are many cases like this where one person might categorize a site as social and another person wouldn't.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1139, "author": "Piotr Migdal", "author_id": 49, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I agree that it may be good to have a related tag. How about <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/social-media\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;social-media&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">social-media</a> or maybe even better <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/web-presence\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;web-presence&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">web-presence</a> (or <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/internet-presence\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;internet-presence&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">internet-presence</a>)?</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1145, "author": "Marxos", "author_id": 19703, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/19703", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I would strongly recommend against a tag, and instead go the other direction: have only a tag called \"internet\". </p>\n\n<p>Let academia SE stay specific to larger academic issues.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1146, "author": "enthu", "author_id": 15723, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723", "pm_score": -1, "selected": true, "text": "<p><strong>Tag Title Suggestion</strong> suggested in <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1139/15723\">this answer</a> and <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1135/lack-of-a-tag-related-to-social-media-on-academia/1147#comment4208_1136\">this comment</a></p>\n\n<p>After a few answers are posted to this question with positive vote rate, it seems that the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/social-media\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;social-media&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">social-media</a> is a good choice to be created. </p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p><strong>Tag Excerpt Suggestion</strong> suggested in <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1147/15723\">this answer</a></p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Use of social media (e.g. Facebook, blogs, ResearchGate) by academics to engage with other academics or students and to disseminate their research.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p><strong>Tag Wiki Suggestion</strong> </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Social media is a collaborative internet website through which users (both administrators and visitors of the website) can exchange and share ideas and information such as academic topics.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1147, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>If we are going to have a <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/social-media\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;social-media&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">social-media</a> tag, I think the tag excerpt should describe social media in a way that reflects <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=social%20media\">the kinds of questions people ask about it here</a>. For example:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Use of social media (e.g. Facebook, blogs, ResearchGate) by academics to engage with other academics or students and to disseminate their research.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" } ]
2014/07/25
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1135", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>I have used other <a href="http://stackexchange.com/sites">stack-exchange websites</a> successfully (there are about 100 of them) to get answers to my questions.</p> <p>Here on Academia.SE the word <strong>rant</strong> is being used in a way that I have not seen on other websites and I would like some clarification.</p> <p>There are some guidelines in the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/how-to-ask">help</a> section of Academia.SE and even a small section on <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask">what not to ask</a>. I still confused and find the use on here very subjective.</p> <p>Example <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/425/possible-not-a-question-post">Possible &quot;not a question&quot; post</a></p> <blockquote> <p>Recently, someone posted the question "Fee surcharge for international students", which was an undisguised rant.</p> </blockquote> <p>Let me look up this word to see what it could mean:</p> <blockquote> <p><strong><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant" rel="nofollow noreferrer">rant</a></strong> to talk loudly and in a way that shows anger : to complain in a way that is unreasonable</p> </blockquote> <p>This definition characterizes most online behavior, unfortunately. That anger is also very real - what should unsuccessful posters do with it?</p> <hr> <p>Specifically, I am concerned that "rant" is just a trope used by high-ranking users on this site to close/delete questions they don't like.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1141, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<blockquote>\n <p>What is a “rant” as far as Academia.SE?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>It's a rhetorical question, where the OP has little interest in the actual answer (if there is any); Often asks to explain a rather subjective situation, e.g., \"Why is my advisor so bad? Why the reviews from this journal are unfair? Why is the cost of that abusive?\". </p>\n\n<p>In particular, the question does not aim at understanding whether the qualification of the subjective situation is correct or not, but states it as fact. </p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>That anger is also very real - what should unsuccessful posters do with it?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>There are plenty of places on the Internet where people can share good/bad experiences and discuss about them, for instance forums, sharing sites (e.g., Reddit). </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1142, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<p>In the help center, you will find the following text:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>If your motivation for asking the question is “I would like to participate in a discussion about <strong>__</strong>”, then you should not be asking here. However, if your motivation is “I would like others to explain <strong>__</strong> to me”, then you are probably OK. (Discussions are of course welcome in our real time web chat.)</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>A \"rant\" is a special case of a question whose motivation is \"I would like to participate in a discussion about <strong>__</strong>\", where the motivation of the asker seems to be \"I would like to complain and/or share my ideas about <strong>__</strong>\".</p>\n\n<p>If a question</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>has a strong negative tone or a strong ideological tone, and</li>\n<li>does not have an objective answer, or the answer would not be helpful to anybody</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>it is likely to be characterized as a \"rant\".</p>\n\n<p><strong>What are some indications that my question might be a \"rant\"?</strong></p>\n\n<p>If your question is any of the following:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Is there any point to X?</li>\n<li>Why are academics so X?</li>\n<li>Why did/didn't X do Y in this situation?</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>this <em>may</em> be an indication that it is a rant.</p>\n\n<p><strong>If your post is seen by others as a \"rant,\" what should you do?</strong></p>\n\n<p>Try editing to make the text of the question less subjective and/or more neutral, and to clarify how the answer will be helpful to you.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1143, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Since the original question that spawned the original meta question has been deleted, I am reposting it:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I am an international student in the United States and have been here\n in a PhD program for roughly 5+ years. Last week, my university's\n board of control proposed charging international students a surcharge\n of $250 per semester based on the fact the my public university hasn't\n been getting enough funds from my state (Michigan).</p>\n \n <p>Most of the international students find this rather discriminatory. I\n am unable to find the federal or state rule or letter of the law that\n is being \"exploited\" in this case, to impose this surcharge. This\n surcharge, apparently, cannot be paid off with a GTA/GRA appointment.</p>\n \n <p>The rationale given is that the \"cost of education has been\n increasing\".</p>\n \n <p>Any help in this regard would be useful. I bring this to academia.SE\n since this has an amalgamation of academic voices from all over the\n world which might provide better perspective to the (un)fairness of\n this \"surcharge\" situation.</p>\n \n <p>What is the legal precedent for such surcharges without enough notice?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I am not sure how this could be described as anything but a rant in the traditional definition. The fact that other SE networks have less of an issue with rants is probably related to the fact that the questions are more \"factual\" in nature and we tend to have softer questions.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1144, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<blockquote>\n <p>What is a “rant” as far as Academia.SE?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I think the definition of \"rant\" in Academia.SE is pretty much the same as everywhere else (you even cite a pretty good definition). The only difference I see is that around here any sort of complaining (warranted or unwarranted, blindingly obvious or more subtle and backhanded) often gets called a rant - simply because Academia.SE usually does <em>not</em> want to get into discussions about various ethical concerns regarding highly ideological issues (sometimes we can't help ourselves, of course).</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Specifically, I am concerned that \"rant\" is just a trope used by high-ranking users on this site to close/delete questions they don't like.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I don't think that it is a trope thrown around by high reputation users to willy-nilly kill questions - it is just a valid reason to quickly explain why something that may sound like a good question for Academia.SE to the OP is in fact not, similar to (for instance) the \"boat programming\" trope on the original Stack Exchange. The Academia.SE community has simply decided that questions that are perceived mainly as a place to vent or complain are out of scope.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Here on Academia.SE the word rant is being used in a way that I have not seen on other websites </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>The word has not been invented here, but is quite common slang in many online communities. Other SE sites probably don't have use the term as much because, well, most sites don't get as many rant-y questions as we do here. However, from cursory observation, I have the impression that other more soft-question oriented SE sites have exactly the same issue (and term!).</p>\n" } ]
2014/07/30
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1140", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
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<p>As of now, searching for questions containing the following words mainly used in the context of disreputable publishers yields the following number of results:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=fake+is%3Aquestion">fake</a>: 23 results</li> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=predatory+is%3Aquestion">predatory</a>: 13 results</li> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=scam+is%3Aquestion">scam</a>: 8 results</li> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/search?q=shady+is%3Aquestion">shady</a>: 5 results</li> </ul> <p>Now, not all of these questions are actually about disreputable publishers and the search results are not disjunct, but I consider it safe to assume that there are more than 20 questions about this subject without counting them.</p> <p>There is not one keyword shared amongst all questions about this subject – some examples lacking the respective keywords: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/25916/7734">predatory</a>, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/17379/7734">scam</a>, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/23332/7734">fake</a>, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/q/26455/7734">shady</a>. Therefore it is difficult to access all our information about this subject and one might easily miss something.</p> <p>I therefore suggest that we create a tag for such questions.</p> <hr> <p>Should we agree on this: What should this tag be called?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1149, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I might recommend <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/disreputable-actions\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;disreputable-actions&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">disreputable-actions</a> or <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/disreputable-practices\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;disreputable-practices&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">disreputable-practices</a>, as I would think that questions about degree mills and other shady actions could fit into the same category.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1150, "author": "Wrzlprmft", "author_id": 7734, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7734", "pm_score": 5, "selected": true, "text": "<p>I suggest <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/disreputable-publishers\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;disreputable-publishers&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">disreputable-publishers</a> as name, which has the advantage of comprising all <em>predatory, scam, fake, shady.</em> (Not every shady or predatory publisher is a total fake or scam and fake and scam publishers are more than just shady.)</p>\n\n<p>On the other hand, it has the disadvantage of not being frequently used in this context.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1175, "author": "E.P.", "author_id": 820, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/820", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1150/820\">current accepted answer</a> strikes a nice middle ground with <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/disreputable-publishers\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;disreputable-publishers&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">disreputable-publishers</a>, but it has the disadvantage that few people posting questions to which the tag will apply will search for such a tag. I propose setting up <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags/synonyms\">synonyms</a> for this tag, along the lines of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fake-journal\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;fake-journal&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">fake-journal</a>,<a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fake-conference\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;fake-conference&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">fake-conference</a>,<a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/predatory-publisher\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;predatory-publisher&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">predatory-publisher</a>. </p>\n\n<p>These will be activated when users start typing \"fake...\" or \"predatory...\" in the tag selection box, and will guide them to the appropriate tag. For example, typing \"pay\" currently guides users to <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags/salary/synonyms\">the accepted synonym</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/salary\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;salary&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">salary</a>:</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/sbtgF.png\" alt=\"enter image description here\"></p>\n\n<p>These synonyms <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/70710/what-are-tag-synonyms-how-do-they-work\">can be set up by popular vote</a>, but the easiest and cleanest way to get them going (and in particular to avoid questions getting tagged with the subsidiary tags, which changes the behaviour (<a href=\"https://i.stack.imgur.com/NnPx3.png\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">example</a>) is via moderator action - if this is OK by the community, of course.</p>\n" } ]
2014/07/31
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1148", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7734/" ]
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<p>There was an <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/26842/how-to-deal-with-a-student-who-harasses-the-inexperienced-teacher-during-class/26887#26887">answer (only viewable to 10k+ users)</a> that uses both expletives and suggests a pretty extreme form of student teacher interaction. This answer has been flagged a number of times as being offensive. The flags require the diamond mods to make a decision. We can do nothing, delete the answer, or warn/suspend the user.</p> <p>Expletives are not appreciated on SE, and may be against the rules: <a href="https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/22232/are-expletives-cursing-swear-words-or-vulgar-language-allowed-on-se-sites">Are expletives (cursing, swear words or vulgar language) allowed on SE sites?</a>. Do we want a no nonsense you curse you get warned policy or do we want to be a little more relaxed?</p> <p>Are extreme views that do not single out individuals or groups offensive and warrant the deletion of an answer?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1161, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Answers that merely run against general sensibilities should not be flagged as abusive or offensive. The correct way to handle such questions is to <strong>downvote them.</strong> However, questions and answers that clearly are hostile to a particular individual or group of people can be marked as abusive or offensive.</p>\n\n<p>As for the matter of cursing, I think having a somewhat flexible policy is OK. It may be appropriate to have a mild profanity in context. (If people are squeamish about using them, they can always obfuscate.) However, \"hard\" curses and profanities should <strong>not</strong> be allowed, and should be subject to a warning. </p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1162, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<ul>\n<li><p>About expletives: if you could formulate your post without them, then they should be removed. We are not a bunch of teenagers who need to swear to look cool. In that particular answer, the sentences \" <em>there are a lot of assholes out there</em>\" could easily be replaced by \"<em>there are a lot people who enjoy harassing others</em>\" without any loss of accuracy. However, swearing alone might not require a deletion, and the post could be edited. </p></li>\n<li><p>About that particular answer, the abusive flag is also related to the content itself: <em>\"Straighten up yourself, get confident and make your student's life a misery, until he learns that he's the puppy-dog.\"</em>; <em>\"Fight him with your weapons you've got as a teacher, hate him.\"</em>; those are abusive statements. </p></li>\n<li><p>The combination of these two elements makes the post offensive/abusive, and if you add the fact that the user has no reputation, I believe this answer is a troll, not a genuine but poorly formulated answer, and should be deleted. The comment from the poster confirms that feeling. </p></li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1164, "author": "Pete L. Clark", "author_id": 938, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/938", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Thanks for asking this question. I was about to open up a meta thread on the same topic. I flagged the cited answer as offensive, and I commented:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I have flagged this answer as \"offensive / abusive\". I did not do this because of the use of words like \"damn\" and \"asshole\": these do not offend me (and do not offend most adults I know). Rather it is because the answer explicitly advocates that a teacher hate a student. As a former student and current teacher, I am certainly offended by this, and I hope others agree. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Professor Ismail responded with the following comment:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>@PeteL.Clark: The correct way to express violent disagreement with an answer is to downvote it, not to flag it as offensive. I also find the thoughts expressed repugnant, but I am quite sure you can find many faculty members who are cavalier to the whole concept of mentoring.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This confuses me. As indicated, I <em>did</em> find the answer offensive. The text for this flag reads:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>it is offensive, abusive, or hate speech This answer contains content that a reasonable person would deem inappropriate for respectful discourse.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>This is a faithful description of my feelings about the answer. (I am making the implicit assumption that I am \"a reasonable person\". If I am mistaken in that, please do let me know!) This leaves me confused at the transaction. It might be that the moderator in question simply does not agree that the answer is offensive -- reasonable people can, and do, disagree -- in which case I understand why the flag was declined but not the comment: just because a flag is declined does not make it not \"correct\". However, the comment also expresses repugnance. It is my understanding that <a href=\"http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/repugnant\" rel=\"nofollow\">\"repugnant\" is a synonym for \"offensive\"</a>, so given that Prof. Ismail feels this way, I am confused not only by his explanation but by his declining of the flag.</p>\n\n<p><b>Added</b>: As one might have guessed from the comments above: no, I do not feel the need for a \"no nonsense you curse you get warned policy\". No academic I know includes \"curse words\" in their writing without a good reason. But some academics do include curse words in their writing (I have done it on occasion). The syllogism ends: we have good reasons for doing so. An outright ban thus seems \"unacademic\" to me.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1165, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'll state in an answer what I suggested in a comment; if you see expletives, simply edit them out. They do not belong in any answer, and the same point can invariably be made without the cursing. If, after editing, the answer is <em>still</em> offensive, then it's time for the flag.</p>\n\n<p>In this case, as Pete points out in <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1164/73\">his answer</a>, even after removing expletives the answer is still advocates that it is appropriate for a teacher to hate a student. That's pretty offensive, bring out the flags and it will be dealt with.</p>\n" } ]
2014/08/07
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1160", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929/" ]
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<p>Does anyone know the font name?</p> <p><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/7YyO9.png" alt="enter image description here"></p> <p>Reference link: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/9044/why-arent-all-research-articles-on-pubmed">Why aren&#39;t all research articles on PubMed?</a></p>
[ { "answer_id": 1173, "author": "Community", "author_id": -1, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>This is the <code>font-family</code> defined in the main stylesheet on the Academic Stack Exchange website:</p>\n\n<pre><code>font-family:Consolas,Menlo,Monaco,Lucida Console,Liberation Mono,DejaVu Sans Mono,Bitstream Vera Sans Mono,Courier New,monospace,serif;\n</code></pre>\n\n<p>The <code>font-family</code> css property lists specific fonts and font styles in order of descending priority; e.g., if a certain browser can't display the first-choice font, it will try the second font in the list, etc.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1174, "author": "Joel Sharin", "author_id": 20831, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/20831", "pm_score": 1, "selected": true, "text": "<p>In addition to the info from celeritas, you can use <a href=\"http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/</a> to use images to find fonts in the future. Here <a href=\"http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/results?ch%5B0%5D=W&amp;ch%5B1%5D=h&amp;ch%5B2%5D=y&amp;ch%5B3%5D=a&amp;ch%5B4%5D=r&amp;ch%5B5%5D=e&amp;ch%5B6%5D=n&amp;ch%5B7%5D=%27&amp;ch%5B8%5D=t&amp;ch%5B9%5D=a&amp;ch%5B10%5D=l&amp;ch%5B11%5D=l&amp;ch%5B12%5D=r&amp;ch%5B13%5D=e&amp;ch%5B14%5D=s&amp;ch%5B15%5D=e&amp;ch%5B16%5D=a&amp;ch%5B17%5D=r&amp;ch%5B18%5D=c&amp;ch%5B19%5D=h&amp;ch%5B20%5D=a&amp;ch%5B21%5D=r&amp;ch%5B22%5D=t&amp;ch%5B23%5D=&amp;ch%5B24%5D=&amp;ch%5B25%5D=&amp;ch%5B26%5D=&amp;ch%5B27%5D=e&amp;ch%5B28%5D=s&amp;ch%5B29%5D=o&amp;ch%5B30%5D=n&amp;ch%5B31%5D=P&amp;ch%5B32%5D=u&amp;ch%5B33%5D=b&amp;ch%5B34%5D=M&amp;ch%5B35%5D=e&amp;ch%5B36%5D=d&amp;ch%5B37%5D=&amp;ch%5B38%5D=&amp;wtfserver=wtf_e_41&amp;id=00204b4a535186d5000a40200000712c&amp;glyphcount=39&amp;imageid=0&amp;x=88&amp;y=35\" rel=\"nofollow\">is an example</a> from this font.</p>\n" } ]
2014/08/13
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1172", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
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<p>Given that we get a lot of "shopping questions" that we have decided are off-topic, should we create a custom off-topic close reason along those lines?</p> <p>For instance, we could have a reason such as:</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>Shopping questions</strong> asking for recommendations for specific programs and universities are considered off-topic on Academia.SE.</p> </blockquote> <p>Note that we can only have 3 custom off-topic close reasons, currently they are "cannot be generalized", "undergraduate", and "specific advice". If you want a new reason, please also mention which reason it should replace/modify.</p>
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2014/08/20
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1178", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53/" ]
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<p>By definition, almost all questions here ask about advice. <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/advice">Some questions are tagged "advice"</a>, some aren't. I suggest that the "advice" tag is not useful and should be deleted.</p> <p>One alternative would be to explicitly define the "advice" tag as </p> <blockquote> <p>This is a question about <strong>giving, requesting or receiving</strong> advice.</p> </blockquote> <p>For instance, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16436/how-to-advise-a-student-looking-for-an-under-grad-thesis-topic">this question</a> could be tagged "advice" under this definition.</p> <p>However, I am afraid that many users will nevertheless tag any request for advice with "advice", i.e., that the tag will have a low signal-to-noise ratio. In addition, out of the 17 questions currently tagged "advice", it seems like only the single one linked above asks for advice about giving advice, so after cleaning up useless instances of the tag, we would be left with only a single valid instance.</p> <p>EDIT: And I would also propose deleting the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/personal-advice">personal-advice</a> tag, for exactly the same reason. (Should I split this off into a separate meta question?)</p>
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2014/08/26
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1192", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/4140/" ]
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<p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/27659/do-mathematics-researchers-regularly-solve-problems-like-this">Do mathematics researchers regularly solve problems like the ones from Project Euler?</a> asks a very objective answer: is it possible to be a professional researcher working on topics similar to contest maths. There has been some good answers, stating that (to sum up very briefly), it could be possible, but hard (since it's quite hard to be a professional mathematician in general). In that regard, I believe it's a good question, that attracted good answers. </p> <p>Now, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/27685/102">this answer</a> is more like a piece of advice, stating (again, summing up briefly) that one should keep an open mind, and that there are plenty of jobs where you can use critical thinking, citing a specific example of a programmer (even though the OP stated that he didn't fancy becoming a professional programmer). To be honest, I think it's a good piece of advice (but at the same time, it's very general, I don't see someone giving the advice of keeping a close mind ...), and would be a good comment, but it's too long to be a comment. This answer has been up voted several times (which is not surprising, it's a good piece of advice). </p> <p>My question is the following one: <strong>what should we do with answers that do not answer directly the question but can still be seen as interesting?</strong></p> <p>If we allow them, then we take the risk to become a discussion board, where everybody comes to share their own experience, and discuss the question instead of answering. If we forbid them, then we could lose some useful content. </p> <p><strong>EDIT</strong> For that particular example, it's worth mentioning that the advice applies well to the particular situation of the OP (who is in high school), but wouldn't apply well (at least, in my opinion) to a 40 years old programmer who is tired of his job, and would like to know whether there is a possibility to live from something he enjoys doing (and the question, as it is now, would be a perfect fit for that situation too). </p>
[ { "answer_id": 1196, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think this is something that hasn't been a big problem so far. For now, I'm content to let users flag answers they think aren't helpful or on-topic. </p>\n\n<p>If we start getting a rash of unhelpful answers, we can revisit things. But for now, I don't see how a blanket policy—either restrictive or permissive—solves the problem.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1197, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<blockquote>\n <p>what should we do with answers that do not answer directly the question but can still be seen as interesting?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I think due to the nature of our site (questions being mostly rather \"soft\", and advice-related more than asking for specific facts), we literally <strong>cannot</strong> strictly \"forbid\" what you call advice answers. Relatively often, we get questions that ask how to best do a specific X, where it is clear that X is something that the OP should really better not do. In these cases, strictly answering the question, without explaining that one should not do X but rather alternative Y, is a dis-service to the OP.</p>\n\n<p>So, what I generally do when reading answers that don't really answer the question, is roughly the following:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>If the answer is still <em>really</em> good, I upvote it anyway.</li>\n<li>If the answer is still good, but more or less ignores the question, I don't vote up or down. Maybe I'll leave a comment.</li>\n<li>If the question asks for a very specific advice, which the poster ignores and berates him instead, of if the post seems like bad advice otherwise, I downvote and leave a comment.</li>\n<li>If the advice is just really bad and entirely misses the point, I downvote and flag as \"Not an answer\".</li>\n</ol>\n" } ]
2014/08/27
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1195", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
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<p>I would like to clarify under what conditions questions should be tagged with certain very general tags, such as <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/professors" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;professors&#39;" rel="tag">professors</a>, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/students" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;students&#39;" rel="tag">students</a>, and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/university" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;university&#39;" rel="tag">university</a>.</p> <p>These tags convey meaningful information in certain situations; for example, it makes sense to tag a question about professors' salaries with <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/professors" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;professors&#39;" rel="tag">professors</a>.</p> <p>But given that a <em>huge</em> portion of questions on this site involve students and/or professors doing something in a university setting, it seems to me that without very specific guidelines for applying these tags, they have the potential to be overused to the point of being meaningless. For example, is there any benefit to tagging a question about an authorship dispute between PhD students with <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/professors" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;professors&#39;" rel="tag">professors</a>, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/students" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;students&#39;" rel="tag">students</a>, and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;phd&#39;" rel="tag">phd</a>?</p> <p>Can anyone offer specific guidelines on how to apply these and other very general tags so that they will be useful?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1202, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think the problem is more general than just those specific tags.</p>\n\n<p>I would be extremely interested in usage statistics of our tags. Not how often tags are being used for questions, but how often somebody actually searches for a specific tag. My underlying assumption is that many of our tags are essentially useless, as they are so general, and their use so ill-defined, that nobody actually uses them for their intended purpose (to find questions fitting their interest). For instance, I can hardly imagine the person that would be interested in questions tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;phd&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">phd</a>, but not all other questions on academia.SE.</p>\n\n<p>To address your concrete question:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Can anyone offer specific guidelines on how to apply these and other very general tags so that they will be useful?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I cannot. What I would encourage, though, is a deeper discussion about how tags are being used in this stack exchange, and whether we can and should clean this up from ground up. I could, for instance, imagine having a smallish number of fixed tags, a la meta, with really well-defined semantics and which are only changed based on meta discussions.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1267, "author": "Wrzlprmft", "author_id": 7734, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7734", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I have been retagging some new and old questions lately and found much too many questions tagged with one of the mentioned tags, which do not even contain this word in title or body. Due to this, I think that the only way to keep these tags clean is to control every single new question.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Can anyone offer specific guidelines on how to apply these and other very general tags so that they will be useful?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>When retagging, I have been going by the philosophy to keep those tags only, if they can be expected to be essential to the question or answer, for example, if the situation necessarily involves some of the respective persons to be a professor (and not just any supervisor) or if it was crucial that a university was involved and not a research lab or some other institution.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1359, "author": "David Richerby", "author_id": 10685, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10685", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The \"University\" tag seems to be completely redundant. At least in British English, \"academia\" and \"universities\" are synonyms: it's impossible to ask a question about one that isn't a question about the other.</p>\n" } ]
2014/08/31
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1201", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p>Welcome to Academia.SE, the free, community-driven Questions and Answers site for academics of all levels - from aspiring graduate and professional students to senior researchers - as well as anyone in or interested in research-related or research-adjacent fields</p> <p>We hope you find Academia.SE enjoyable, interesting, and fun, and we welcome your contributions to the site. With your help, we're working together to build a library of detailed answers to every question about academia.</p> <p>Much like academia itself, Academia.SE has some conventions and standards of behavior that can be unfamiliar to new members of the community. Below, you'll find some information to help you get acclimated and to make your interactions with this site a pleasant experience for you and all other users.</p> <hr> <p><sup>If you're adding an answer to this post: Please answer with <em>one single</em> piece of advice per answer. If you have multiple pieces of advice, post multiple answers. This is so that the community can vote separately on each item, and the most important advice will rise to the top.</sup></p>
[ { "answer_id": 1204, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<h3>Write <em>one</em> question per post</h3>\n\n<p>If you have several questions about a problem or situation, but the questions can be asked independently, please split them up into multiple posts.</p>\n\n<p>There are several reasons for this:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>From <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/39224/254250\">Meta.SE</a>: \"That way it's easy to select a correct answer. If you ask several questions in one question you risk having answers that are both correct and wrong at the same time.\"</li>\n<li>If your question has many parts, it is likely to be closed for being <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask\">too broad in scope</a>.</li>\n<li>If a user only knows the answer to some of your questions but not others, they may refrain from answering entirely. Asking one question per post makes it more likely that each of your questions will get answered.</li>\n<li><p>Writing one question per post makes it much easier for future visitors to find existing questions like their own. Imagine you're a future visitor and you'd like to know whether a publication in an unrelated field will be helpful in graduate admissions. Would an existing question be easier to find if </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>It's a sub-question of a very, very long post titled \"Advice for admissions to graduate school?\" along with four other sub-questions, or</li>\n<li>It's in dedicated post with only one question, titled \"How does a publication in an unrelated field affect graduate admissions?\"</li>\n</ul></li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1205, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 6, "selected": false, "text": "<h3>\"Here's my situation, any suggestions?\" is not an answerable question</h3>\n\n<p>Sometimes questions on Academia.SE involve a user describing the situation they find themselves in, and asking a very general question (e.g., \"any suggestions or advice?\"). Instead of asking questions like this, you should highlight the <em>specific</em> question you want answered.</p>\n\n<p>For example, suppose your question is \"My advisor does X, what should I do?\"</p>\n\n<p>Without further clarification, we can't tell whether you want to know:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>How to gracefully switch to another advisor?</li>\n<li>Whether your advisor's behavior is normal?</li>\n<li>How to talk to your advisor about changing this behavior?</li>\n<li>How to mitigate the effect this behavior has on you?</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>So, please <strong>make sure you specify the <em>question</em> you want an answer to</strong> in your post, and not just the situation.</p>\n\n<p>If you don't describe your specific question, you won't necessarily get answers to that question. It's also highly likely that your post will be closed as \"unclear what you're asking.\"</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1206, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<h3>Look before you leap.</h3>\n\n<p>The best way to avoid having your questions placed on hold is to know what a good question looks like. And the best way to find out is to look at good questions. Click on a tag related to what you want to ask, and see what's already there—and what's been highly upvoted.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1210, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<h3>Give yourself time to proofread before submitting</h3>\n\n<p>Even if what you want to ask weighs heavy on your heart, don't just get your feelings out there. Collect your thoughts, consider what we need to know about your situation (and, more importantly, what we should not know, for instance specifics that could identify you), and ask a nicely formulated question in grammatically correct english, with paragraphs, and a single, explicit question item. If your question is overly long, this is an indicator that you are likely including too much personal backstory into your question.</p>\n\n<p><strong>Remember, in order to answer your question, people here first need to read it. The chance that your question is read carefully is strongly correlated with how clear and well-presented it is.</strong></p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1211, "author": "Jeromy Anglim", "author_id": 62, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/62", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<h2>Think about how to make your question a useful ongoing resource for the internet</h2>\n<p>This generally means thinking about what is general about your question. You may have a problem that is highly specific to your situation but think about how can it be generalised so that the answers will be helpful to others.</p>\n<p>Basically, stack exchange is here to make the life of the Googling masses so much better. The answers you receive will hopefully help you, but more importantly a good general question will help hundreds or often thousands of future people who google the question. The more that you can frame your question in a slightly general way, the more likely a question is to help the Googling masses.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1212, "author": "Wrzlprmft", "author_id": 7734, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7734", "pm_score": 7, "selected": false, "text": "<h3>Academia varies more than you think it does</h3>\n\n<p>Academic customs and procedures vary greatly across countries, universities, fields, subfields, workgroups and so on. Therefore always consider that what you assume to be general in your question or answer is not. It is very helpful if your question includes at least your field and your country.</p>\n\n<p>Some examples:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><p>In some fields, publishing papers at conferences is the default; in other fields, it is unheard of.</p></li>\n<li><p>In some fields, a peer-review process of one year is quick; in others it is outrageously long.</p></li>\n<li><p>How the order of authors of a paper is determined varies greatly across fields.</p></li>\n<li><p>The role and relevance of the corresponding author differs between journals, fields and countries. [<a href=\"//academia.stackexchange.com/q/84476/7734\">1</a>], [<a href=\"//academia.stackexchange.com/q/10062/7734\">2</a>].</p></li>\n<li><p>The rate of papers per author and citations per paper vary strongly over fields and subfields.</p></li>\n<li><p>The distinction between undergraduate and graduate students doesn’t exist in some countries. For example, it isn’t even possible to accurately translate the corresponding words into the German language.</p></li>\n<li><p>In some countries, PhD students are typically university employees; in others they are not and live on a stipend, which they need to apply for and may not get.</p></li>\n<li><p>In some countries, prospective PhD students apply directly to potential supervisors; in others, they apply to a department.</p></li>\n<li><p>In some countries and fields, getting a PHD involves coursework; in others, it doesn’t.</p></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>Please consider having a look at <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/q/4471/7734\">Academia varies more than you think it does – The Movie</a> for a more extensive list.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1213, "author": "Fomite", "author_id": 118, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/118", "pm_score": 5, "selected": false, "text": "<h3>Don't take constructive feedback personally; see if your post can be improved with some editing</h3>\n<p>Stack Exchange is designed around being helpful, and the people here who are volunteering their time to answer questions are doing it because they <em>want</em> to answer them, and be helpful.</p>\n<p>Close votes or other suggestions are not judgements on you, your character, or your situation. They are an attempt to make a question capable of being answered, or steer the question into a place where it can reasonably be answered. A question being closed means we're not sure it can be answered as it is currently written - not that your situation doesn't deserve our attention.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1215, "author": "enthu", "author_id": 15723, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<h2>Don't run, Walk!</h2>\n\n<p>Gaining reputation may be something really interesting for the low-experienced users. They may try to add to their reputation by posting numerous questions or answers which do not have any meaningful content. This may probably reduce their reputation or cause down-votes to their posts. If you take a look at users with higher reputation, you can see that they have posts which have gained many up-votes just because the content is of good quality. They just don't post something; they answer the questions indeed.</p>\n\n<p>As a newly registered user, I recommend you to:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>Visit the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/tour\">Academia's tour</a>;</li>\n<li><p>Read the content provided in the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help\">Academia's Help Center</a>; Specially the following topics: </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic\">What topics can I ask about here?</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/how-to-answer\">How do I write a good answer?</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask\">What types of questions should I avoid asking?</a></li>\n</ul></li>\n<li><p>Take a look at <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags\">tags</a> list and read some questions and answers which attract you more.</p></li>\n<li>Do not go instantly to use your moderation privileges such as edit features.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>Understanding what's wrong or right, what's the website's policy about on-topic or off-topic content and how this website works need time. So be patient.</p>\n\n<p>and one last advice;</p>\n\n<p>If your post which may be a question or an answer, is put on hold or even deleted, or your suggested edits are rejected; do not become angry. Ask your questions about the website's policies on <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/\">Academia's Meta</a> and do your discussions on the <a href=\"http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2496/academia\">website's chat room</a>, not in the comments or answers.</p>\n\n<p>Try to ask the users with higher reputation, why your content is down-voted, put on hold or deleted and try to learn from your mistakes. So, in future, you will post questions and answers which meet the site's policies and this way, you will not only learn things, but also you will enjoy being on a site in which many graduate students and faculty members collaborate.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1273, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 4, "selected": false, "text": "<h3>\"I couldn't find a better SE site for this question\" is not necessarily a reason to ask it here</h3>\n\n<p>The <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic\">help center</a> describes what kinds of questions are considered on-topic here, as well as some kinds of questions that are outside the scope of this site (as defined by the community).</p>\n\n<p>We welcome your on-topic contributions. But, if you ask a question that is not within one of the on-topic areas, or that falls within one of the out-of-scope areas, it will be closed.</p>\n\n<p>This is true even if there is currently no StackExchange site (or other site) at which you may ask the question. Off-topic-ness everywhere else does not imply on-topic-ness here.</p>\n\n<p>Furthermore, while some users may suggest a better site<sup>1</sup> to ask your question if they know of one, we aren't necessarily experts on all the websites out there. So if you ask in a comment</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>well, what site can I ask this question at, then????</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>you may or may not get a response - because we don't necessarily know the answer. But it definitely won't get the question reopened. </p>\n\n<p>If you think you've identified a gap in the coverage of current StackExchange sites, you can visit <a href=\"http://area51.stackexchange.com/\">Area51</a> to propose a new site, or support an existing proposal. </p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p><sup>1</sup> <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64068/is-cross-posting-a-question-on-multiple-stack-exchange-sites-permitted-if-the-qu\">Cross-posting is against StackExchange policy</a> and is liable to get your question closed and deleted. If you think your <em>own</em> question would be more appropriate on a different site, use the \"flag\" link and ask a moderator to migrate it from Academia to your preferred site. If you think <em>someone else's</em> question would be more appropriate on another site, <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1024/11365\">write a comment</a> suggesting that the OP use the \"flag\" link to ask a moderator to migrate it (and, also vote to close <em>if</em> it's also off-topic at Academia).</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1289, "author": "enthu", "author_id": 15723, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<h2>Useful tips for more interested users who want to be an asset to the site</h2>\n\n<p>If you are a new user, and after asking some questions and answering some others, want to stay on this site and collaborate more, I encourage you to read the <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/\">Stack Exchange network-wide Meta</a> content to become more aware of the functionality and usefulness of some features existing on the website.</p>\n\n<p>Especially the questions listed under <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/faq\">FAQ</a> tag will help you act more wisely and efficiently. Mostly when you gain reputation and have access to some moderation tools, these questions and answers will help you indeed.</p>\n\n<p>I'll link to some of these questions here and will be thankful to other users if they also add some more valuable questions to read.</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7931/faq-for-stack-exchange-sites\">FAQ for Stack Exchange sites</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/155538/what-are-the-guidelines-for-reviewing\">What are the guidelines for reviewing?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/146949/when-is-tag-creation-appropriate-and-how-does-it-work\">Can we please have the [foo] tag on our site?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/135360/theres-an-election-going-on-whats-happening-and-how-does-it-work\">There&#39;s an election going on. What&#39;s happening and how does it work?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/126829/what-is-serial-voting-and-how-does-it-affect-me\">What is serial voting and how does it affect me?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/130046/when-should-i-vote\">When should I vote?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/126180/is-it-acceptable-to-write-a-thank-you-in-a-comment\">Is it acceptable to write a thank you in a comment?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/57537/how-do-i-contact-other-users\">How do I contact other users?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/10647/how-do-i-write-a-good-title\">How do I write a good title?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/17038/what-is-a-rollback\">What is a &#39;rollback&#39;?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/48578/what-can-cause-my-question-to-be-bumped\">What can cause a question to be bumped?</a></p></li>\n<li><p><a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64068/is-cross-posting-a-question-on-multiple-stack-exchange-sites-permitted-if-the-qu\">Is cross-posting a question on multiple Stack Exchange sites permitted if the question is on-topic for each site?</a></p></li>\n</ol>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1679, "author": "Wrzlprmft", "author_id": 7734, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/7734", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<h2>Use tags that are relevant to your question</h2>\n\n<p>When tagging your question, go by what the question is actually <em>about,</em> not by what it is only <em>related</em> to. This way, you can help future users to find questions addressing their problems.</p>\n\n<p>For example, almost every question on this site is somewhat related to research, because that’s what academians do. If you are asking about, e.g., how to best cite something, you are probably doing so because you are publishing your research. Such a question would only be <em>related</em> to research, but not <em>about</em> it, and should thus not be tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research</a>. If you are however asking on how to best organise your research, the question is actually <em>about</em> research and thus deserves the tag.</p>\n\n<p>In another example, when you have a question about how to cite something that came up when writing a thesis, the same question might as well have arisen when writing a paper. In this case the question is not about theses and should thus should not be tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/thesis\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;thesis&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">thesis</a>.</p>\n\n<p>The following tags are often used spuriously: <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;phd&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">phd</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/masters\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;masters&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">masters</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/thesis\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;thesis&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">thesis</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/publications\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;publications&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">publications</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/university\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;university&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">university</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/students\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;students&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">students</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/professors\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;professors&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">professors</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/conference\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;conference&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">conference</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/graduate-school\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;graduate-school&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">graduate-school</a>.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/02
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1203", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/28101/81">This answer</a> to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28086/how-is-it-in-my-best-interest-not-to-submit-a-paper-to-two-journals-simultaneous">How is it in my best interest not to submit a paper to two journals simultaneously?</a> was deleted by a moderator:</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>What can I lose if I don’t adhere to this rule?</p> </blockquote> <p>Your self-respect.</p> </blockquote> <p>The claim is that it does not provide an answer to the question. It clearly does provide an answer.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1216, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I was not the moderator who deleted the answer, but had I gotten to it first, I would have. I do not think it answers the question in its current format, although it has the potential to be the basis of a great answers. Without the quote it does not meet the minimum number of characters required for answers suggesting it may be too short. To be a good answer you would really need to explain why the behaviour would result in a loss of self respect.</p>\n\n<p>As for a moderator deleting the question, this is one area where our community moderation really let's us down. What happened was that two users raised the \"not an answer flag\". A moderator agree and performed an action on the flags and deleted the questions. In my opinion the correct way for the community to handle these things is for regular users to down vote the answer so that it has a negative vote total which would then allow users with sufficient reputation to cast a delete vote. This would keep the moderators out of it. That said, historically we have not moderated ourselves in this way and instead users tend to flag and not down vote, or even comment, which to me is a strange combination leaving moderators looking like they are acting unilaterally.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1217, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Answers that don't answer the question may be deleted. This includes:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Posts asking for clarification on the question</li>\n<li>Posts commenting on a related topic but not answering the question</li>\n<li>Sarcastic/witty one-liners</li>\n<li>Rants</li>\n<li>Abusive posts</li>\n<li>Spam</li>\n<li>...?</li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1223, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": true, "text": "<p>I \"deleted\" the answer, although it was actually converted to a comment (which you then in turn deleted). The reason the answer was deleted was because of length, not because it's not an answer. Unfortunately, the mod interface (where this was done) doesn't give the option to leave feedback after such an operation, and I forgot to put it in manually.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/07
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1214", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/81/" ]
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<p>I was reviewing the tags list and came to the following ones with excerpts as:</p> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/political-science" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;political-science&#39;" rel="tag">political-science</a> with 4 questions </p> <blockquote> <p>On standards or conventions specific to political science as an academic >discipline, and programs that lead to a degree in this field.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/law" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;law&#39;" rel="tag">law</a> with 11 questions </p> <blockquote> <p>Academic questions and answers about law and political sciences.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/politics" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;politics&#39;" rel="tag">politics</a> with 3 questions<br> this tag has no tag excerpt or wiki.</p> <p>All these tags seem to be synonym and I think politics and political-sciences should merged and the difference of them and the law tag should be declared more or this also should be merged into the previous ones.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1216, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I was not the moderator who deleted the answer, but had I gotten to it first, I would have. I do not think it answers the question in its current format, although it has the potential to be the basis of a great answers. Without the quote it does not meet the minimum number of characters required for answers suggesting it may be too short. To be a good answer you would really need to explain why the behaviour would result in a loss of self respect.</p>\n\n<p>As for a moderator deleting the question, this is one area where our community moderation really let's us down. What happened was that two users raised the \"not an answer flag\". A moderator agree and performed an action on the flags and deleted the questions. In my opinion the correct way for the community to handle these things is for regular users to down vote the answer so that it has a negative vote total which would then allow users with sufficient reputation to cast a delete vote. This would keep the moderators out of it. That said, historically we have not moderated ourselves in this way and instead users tend to flag and not down vote, or even comment, which to me is a strange combination leaving moderators looking like they are acting unilaterally.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1217, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Answers that don't answer the question may be deleted. This includes:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Posts asking for clarification on the question</li>\n<li>Posts commenting on a related topic but not answering the question</li>\n<li>Sarcastic/witty one-liners</li>\n<li>Rants</li>\n<li>Abusive posts</li>\n<li>Spam</li>\n<li>...?</li>\n</ul>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1223, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 3, "selected": true, "text": "<p>I \"deleted\" the answer, although it was actually converted to a comment (which you then in turn deleted). The reason the answer was deleted was because of length, not because it's not an answer. Unfortunately, the mod interface (where this was done) doesn't give the option to leave feedback after such an operation, and I forgot to put it in manually.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/08
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1221", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>Should questions that are closed for being off-topic be edited for formatting, grammar, retagging, or other issues that don't resolve the reason the question was closed?</p> <p>Is this a valid reason for rejecting suggested edits?</p> <p>The argument against these edits is that they have several negative consequences:</p> <ul> <li>In many cases, it <a href="https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/256567/which-edits-push-closed-questions-to-the-reopen-review-queue">causes the question to be pushed into the reopen review queue</a>. The edit didn't help resolve the issue that caused the question to be closed as off-topic. So, this creates unnecessary work for reviewers (since the question doesn't <em>really</em> need a review for reopening at this point). Having unnecessary reviews in the queue can decrease users' motivation to help out with reviews.</li> <li><s>Users can <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/close-questions">only vote once</a> in each direction (close, reopen) on any question. It's <a href="https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/239098/do-leave-closed-votes-in-reopen-queue-count-as-voting-once-in-the-close-dire">not clear to me</a> whether "Leave Closed" votes in the reopen review queue count as <em>voting once in the close direction</em>. If it does, this means that by unnecessarily reviewing a question following edits that don't resolve the reason for closure, users are prevented from voting to close this question again if it becomes necessary. Given that we currently have <a href="http://data.stackexchange.com/academia/query/edit/223533" rel="nofollow noreferrer">fewer than 50 active users who can cast these votes</a>, this is a cause for concern.</s></li> <li>If the user proposing the edit does not have enough reputation to apply edits unilaterally, then it will go into the suggested edits review queue. This is also demoralizing to reviewers, for the same reason; it's a waste of effort for questions that are going to be deleted, anyways.</li> <li>Edits bump these posts to the front page. If the edit makes the question a candidate for reopening, that's a good thing. But if not, it looks bad to have many closed off-topic questions on the front page; I'd rather not bump these if we can avoid it.</li> </ul> <p>The argument in favor of these edits is that they may turn out to be useful if the question is also, separately, edited to make it on-topic, and it is then reopened. However, it seems to me that it might be preferable to do these formatting, grammar, or other edits <em>only after</em> the issue that led to the closure has been resolved.</p> <p>I am especially thinking of edits to posts that are not likely to be reopened because they are shopping questions or one of the other off topic questions listed in the help center. For example,</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/13714">this suggested edit of a shopping question</a></li> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/13606">this suggested edit to a shopping question</a></li> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/13401">this suggested edit to a "Choose a university for me" question</a></li> <li><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/posts/25697/revisions">this edit of a programming question</a></li> </ul> <p>(Not suggesting that users who made these edits were doing anything wrong, since until now we have <em>not</em> had a site policy on the matter.)</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1227, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I would restrict editing to the <em>titles</em> of closed questions, since this is the information that is most readily visible to the user (in Web searches, internal searches, and the front page).</p>\n\n<p>My argument is that the front page is your \"advertisement\" to stick around. If there are a lot of typos and poorly worded titles on the front page, it gives a bad impression of the site overall.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1228, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think too often closed questions that are salvageable do not get the attention that is required to reopen them. In my opinion anything that people are willing to do to try and move a question closer to being reopened is a good thing. Editing the title and tags can help attract attention from the \"right\" people who may be able to edit the question even more. Editing grammar and formatting can also be helpful. Sometimes questions are so poorly written that it is difficult to know where to begin in terms of salvaging the question. Other times the question is going to need rephrasing and improved grammar/formatting before it can be reopened.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1720, "author": "David Richerby", "author_id": 10685, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10685", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>We recently <a href=\"https://cs.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1007/trivial-edits-to-closed-on-hold-questions\">discussed this on Computer Science meta</a>. Consensus was that edits to closed/on-hold questions that do nothing to address the reason for closure should be avoided and, if made, they should be rejected as \"No improvement whatsoever.\"</p>\n\n<p>For me, this applies even if the question could be suitable for reopening if improved. We don't close questions just because they're badly formatted or have poor grammer. By the same token, we shouldn't refuse to reopen a question that's been edited to make it appropriate for the site, even if it's still badly formatted or still has poor grammar. To be honest, it seems unlikely that somebody would make the question appropriate for reopening without also improving the formatting and grammar but, if they did that, somebody else can always come along and fix those minor issues once the question's been opened again (or even while the reopen vote is in progress).</p>\n\n<p>In my experience, people who do make grammar and formatting improvements to on-hold questions are usually well-meaning new users. A polite \"Thanks but please don't do that because XYZ; here are some useful things you could do instead\" message always seems to redirect their energies to something productive.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/08
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1226", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p>Based on the positive response to the <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1178/should-we-create-a-shopping-question-closure-tag">shopping closure tag question</a> I recently asked, I think the best way to handle this would be to edit the "cannot be generalized" tag to incorporate this specifically.</p> <p>I would propose to change the text of the tag as follows:</p> <blockquote> <p>Questions that cannot be generalized to apply to others in similar situations are off-topic. In particular, "shopping" questions asking about recommendations for specific programs or universities are off-topic. For assistance in writing questions that can apply to multiple people facing similar situations, see: What kinds of questions are too localized?</p> </blockquote>
[ { "answer_id": 1234, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't think \"shopping\" is generally a subtype of \"Questions that cannot be generalized to apply to others in similar situations.\"</p>\n\n<p>Many of the shopping questions we get are very general. For example, </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/18283/cheapest-online-degrees\">What are the cheapest online degrees in Computer Science?</a> </li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/18289/where-can-i-take-online-mba-courses-without-being-admitted\">Where can I take online MBA courses without being admitted?</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/27436/good-chemical-engineering-schools-in-us-for-ph-d\">Good chemical engineering schools in US for Ph.D?</a></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>The fundamental problem with these questions is not just that they are too broad, because if they were narrowed down a great deal they'd still be off topic. The problem is that they are shopping questions. I don't think that \"shopping\" is a subtype of any of our existing close reasons.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1236, "author": "Flyto", "author_id": 8394, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/8394", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>On some other sites I might agree, but I suspect that on academia.SE, the biggest cause of the \"cannot be generalised\" closure is \"Here is my specific situation in great detail. What course should I take / how should I deal with my supervisor / what colour of pen is it best to use?\". Answering that with something that might be interpreted as \"don't ask shopping questions\" will just confuse.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/11
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1233", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53/" ]
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<p>Suppose we have the following three questions:</p> <ul> <li>Question 1: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/2336/can-i-include-the-completion-of-udacity-and-coursera-classes-i-have-attended-in">Can I include the completion of Udacity and Coursera classes I have attended in an academic CV?</a></li> <li>Question 2: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/25951/is-an-x-series-certificate-from-edx-useful-for-graduate-school">Is an X-Series Certificate from edx useful for graduate school?</a></li> <li>Question 3: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28405/how-would-a-coursera-specialization-be-regarded-in-graduate-admissions">How would a Coursera specialization be regarded in graduate admissions?</a></li> </ul> <p>Question 2 was long ago marked as a duplicate of Question 1. However, I do not think it is an exact duplicate.</p> <p>Question 3 was just asked, and I think it is an exact duplicate of Question 2.</p> <p>What to do now? </p> <p>I don't want to vote it as a duplicate of Question 1, since I don't think it is. </p> <p>I also don't want to vote it as a duplicate of Question 2, since Question 2 is itself a duplicate. </p> <p>And I don't want to leave it open, since I think it's an exact duplicate of an existing question. </p> <p>I suggested that the OP edit it to highlight the difference from Question 2, but I still think it's fundamentally the same question.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1237, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>My pragmatic proposal would be to just leave it open. While it may be a duplicate of Question 2, Question 2 is closed and hence \"does not really exist\". It should be closed if it is a duplicate of Question 1, but as you say it isn't, I see no reason to mark it as duplicate.</p>\n\n<p>More generally, I think it is important to consider closing as duplicate as <em>\"these are very similar questions, to the extend that the answers will be pretty much the same\"</em>, and not <em>\"these are absolutely identical questions\"</em>. With the first, more practical, definition in mind, it becomes clear that being a duplicate is not necessarily a transitive relationship (that is, it is possible that A is a duplicate of B, B of C, but A not of C).</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1243, "author": "David Z", "author_id": 236, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/236", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't think the fact that question 2 is itself a duplicate of something is a reason not to close question 3 as a duplicate of it. If you do close Q3 as a duplicate of Q2, it keeps the \"duplication graph\" sensible in case question 2 is reopened sometime in the future. And if that doesn't happen, someone browsing the questions is still going to be pointed to Q1 in the end. The only thing you give up by closing Q3 as a duplicate of Q2 rather than of Q1 is a slight amount of convenience on the part of the reader.</p>\n\n<p>So I would recommend closing question 3 as a duplicate of question 2.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1235", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p>Choosing good tags for questions is a little hard for me. Despite reading the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/help/tagging">What are tags, and how should I use them?</a> entry in the help center; choosing best tags is a little vague for me.</p> <p>Could please give me clear clues on how to choose correct tags in an easier way? Please provide examples in your answers.</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1240, "author": "aeismail", "author_id": 53, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/53", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>If you click on a tag, you get a list of questions using that tag. Before applying the tag, ask yourself the following question:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Would I expect to see this question in a list of questions using this tag?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>For example, I removed the \"grades\" tag which you applied to <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28204/what-if-any-roads-are-open-to-graduate-schools-for-athletes-with-borderline-gr\">What, if any, roads are open to graduate schools for athletes with borderline grades?</a> because the question is not about \"grades\" and \"grading.\" I would not expect to see such a question come up in that context. I would expect to see it in a question about graduate admissions. I might also expect to see it in a list of questions about athletics. </p>\n\n<p>However, <strong>don't tag or retag a question</strong> if you're not certain if a tag should apply. It's better <em>not</em> to edit tags, particularly on old questions, if you're not positive the tags you're adding are relevant. If you think something needs new tags, then you could suggest it as a comment instead of retagging.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1241, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>The guidelines I recommend are:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>First read the tag wiki excerpt for the tag you are thinking of <em>very carefully</em>. In particular, some words have dual or ambiguous meanings (e.g. our <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/law\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;law&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">law</a> is about the academic discipline of law, as described in the tag wiki, not about legal problems faced by academics.) The tag wiki excerpt is supposed to define the scope of how the tag should be applied. If the tag wiki excerpt does <em>not</em> do this, either propose an edit to it (if you think you know how the tag should be used) or ask about that tag on meta (if you don't). If you think the excerpt does not match the way the tag has been applied, ask about it on meta.</li>\n<li>If you're going to apply a tag, first check if there are multiple tags that cover the same meaning and scope (in their tag wiki excerpts and/or in how they are applied). If so, apply the better one (the one that's been used most consistently so far). Then <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/admin/create-tag-synonym\">propose a tag synonym</a> (or if you don't have enough reputation to propose a tag synonym, propose it on meta).</li>\n<li><p>Don't add tags that are tangential to the fundamental question at hand. For example, </p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>If there is a question about teaching, and the OP mentions that the class is a physics class, but the question and answers would be exactly the same if the OP was teaching engineering, don't add <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/physics\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;physics&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">physics</a>.</li>\n<li>If there is a question about applying to a PhD program, and the OP asks \"I saw on the program's website that applicants are encouraged to contact potential supervisors directly - what to write on first contact?\" - this is <em>not</em> a question about a <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/website\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;website&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">website</a>.</li>\n</ul></li>\n<li><p><em>Re-tag</em> only if you are adding meaningful information by doing so. For example, almost all of the questions on this site <em>could</em> potentially have <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;phd&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">phd</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/research\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;research&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">research</a>, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/university\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;university&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">university</a>, or <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/professors\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;professors&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">professors</a>. But adding these to a question after the fact - even if it's not really <em>wrong</em> - often adds no useful information. (This is, unfortunately, a somewhat subjective judgment call that not everybody will always agree on.)</p></li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>Finally, as with everything else on this site, don't be upset if someone disagrees with your tags, changes them, or applies tags you think are wrong. If someone changes or removes a tag you've added, take some time to read the tag wiki excerpts, look at the questions the tag has been applied to, review the above guidelines, and try to understand why. After doing that, if you still don't understand, ask on meta. (I suggest to ask on meta, rather than in a comment or in chat, so that the discussion is preserved permanently and <em>everybody</em> can learn from it.)</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/12
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1239", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>There has been general agreement <a href="https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1202/11365">here on meta</a> that our tags are not in great shape, to say the least.</p> <p>Big tags like <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/phd" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;phd&#39;" rel="tag">phd</a> and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/graduate-school" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;graduate-school&#39;" rel="tag">graduate-school</a> are beyond the scope of this particular post, and need <em>major</em> discussion on meta before anyone acts on them. But some (very small) tags lend themselves easily to cleanup with just a few retags. I've been working on some of these lately.</p> <p>Given that mass retags are <em>very</em> disruptive to regular operations on this site, I've been taking any steps I can think of to minimize disruption:</p> <ul> <li>only bump 5-6 old posts at a time</li> <li>only bump old posts when the front page (in 'active' view) doesn't already have a bunch of old posts near the top. (i.e. don't everybody go on tagging sprees at the same time)</li> <li>when bumping an old post for retagging (or when someone else bumps an old post), fix everything else that's wrong with the post at the same time: correct typos, remove incorrect tags, etc. This way, we won't have to bump it <em>again</em> to fix something else.</li> <li>fix tags on new questions immediately when they're asked.</li> </ul> <p>Does anyone have any other comments or suggestions on how to minimize disruption when cleaning up tags as part of small, focused effort?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1260, "author": "enthu", "author_id": 15723, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>After a good discussion went on between some users of the site about the need of having <a href=\"http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/17738787#17738787\">some strategies</a> when we edit the tags, as a clear and working strategy, <a href=\"http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/17738816#17738816\">strongbad suggested</a> that a good strategy to tag edits might be something like the following:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Would it be better choosing a tag you would like to improve and\n removing it from questions that do not need it and adding it to those\n that do? That way you only have to keep a good mental representation\n of one tag at a time. Your approach seems to require you to understand\n all the tags.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Also, <a href=\"http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/17739208#17739208\">ff524 supported</a> such strategy by</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I also think that since many tags are currently not well-defined in\n scope (see several ongoing meta discussions), it's not even possible\n to \"properly\" tag every question right now</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>To conclude that discussion, the strategy that <code>each user is better to pick a tag and add it to or remove it from the questions</code> seems to be a good strategy, minimizes double works on tag edits and makes the tag edits an efficient and a less time-consuming work.</p>\n\n<p>However, we have no clear job distribution between users. One user may have edited a question and brought it in a good shape but after a while, another user double edits the question and ruins previous revisions.</p>\n\n<p>As stated in the discussion, <a href=\"http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/17741610#17741610\">I suggested</a> having the following approach which makes tag edits more clear;</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Isn't it better to make a meta question with a title like \"Tags under\n edit\" and each person working on a tag post an answer to the question.\n So, we will have a list of tags under edit, and a list of off-on topic\n questions relatively?</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>By having a meta question in which each user states that s/he is working a particular tag, so another users do not waste their time re-editing the questions with that tag; it is obvious that another user may edit that question for another tag. This way, we solve <a href=\"http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/17741628#17741628\">the problem of multiple works</a> on any tags.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This helps with the problem of multiple users working on tags, since\n if it's obvious what should be done it's unlikely someone will ruin a\n good edit; and if it's not obvious, the community should weigh in\n first anyways</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>Also, in her/his answer to that question; s/he can edit and ask about on-topic or off-topic questions and after her/his is completed, we have a list of on/off-topic questions in each answer which will be a valuable list, will help users in future to learn more about the off-topic questions and helps them become aware about the site's policies about each tag. Another benefit would be the discussions which can be made in the comments of each answer (each tag) or in a separate chat-room (with similar name) which will improve the user's vision about the tags.</p>\n\n<h2>Proposal:</h2>\n\n<p>We need following spaces on the <a href=\"http://academia.stackexchange.com\">Academia website</a> to manage our edits to <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags\">tags</a>:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li><p>A <a href=\"https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/ask\">question</a> on <a href=\"http://meta.academia.stackexchange.com\">academia's meta</a> with a title like <code>Tag edits\nmanagement page</code> in which each user posts an answer to take the\nresponsibility of editing one (or two) tag(s) (no more, when s/he\nfinishes his edit with a tag; the s/he can pick another tag).</p></li>\n<li><p>A chat-room with similar name to that meta question in which users\ncan bring further discussions about question. This way, we will not\nmiss our discussions between normal chats in our <a href=\"http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/2496/academia\">main\nchat-room</a>. Also, we can mention a link to the chat discussion\nabout questions and tags in front of it's answer in the edits-page\non meta; so users can easily follow the discussions.</p></li>\n</ol>\n\n<h2>Benefits:</h2>\n\n<ol>\n<li>Editing the tags systematically and avoiding multiple and\nunneccessary revisions;</li>\n<li>User will be focused on only one tag and his mind will not be\ncrowded with many definitions of multiple tags;</li>\n<li>Concentrated discussion and good archiving to the off-topic and\non-topic questions on each tag will help the users of the site\nbecome more familiar with the site's proffered policies on each tags\nand helps the users better choose tags for their questions.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<h2>Considerations:</h2>\n\n<ol>\n<li><p>We should take care and encourage users, if they want to do any edit\nto any tags; they post their proposal in a comment to the\nresponsible's answer on the edit's question in meta, so users will\nbe rejecting such edits instantly if their suggestions are\nirrelevant; however, the comments to each answer will be so crowded\nafter a while; so we should think about the following issue:</p>\n\n<p>After one round of edits is finished to each tag, what procedure\nshould be proposed to new tag edit? Should we ask users not to edit\ncompleted tags or we should ask them send a proposal to each edit\nthey want to make in a separate question in meta?</p></li>\n<li><p>What should we do about the problem of bumping question to the\nactive questions list? We should think about it too, we can announce\na period of six month for editing the website's tags. Or even, one\nday a week for editing the questions' tags. This way, users will not\nface a list of questions bumped in to the top list every day; Only\none day per week we will have the bumping problem which will be\ncompletely reasonable. During this period of time, we can apology\nthe users for some inconsistency by showing them a message in the\nfirst page; something like: Sorry for inconvenience, the site is in\nthe tag edits period; for a list of newest questions please visit\n<a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions?sort=newest\">the list of newest questions</a>.</p></li>\n<li><p>Edits suggestions to the excerpt and wiki of each tag may be made as\nwas in the past (suggesting edits in meta in separate questions).</p></li>\n</ol>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1266, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I think the best way to minimize disruptions is to make sure the changes to the tags are correct. Removing needed tags or adding unneeded tags is a huge disruption and requires intervention from people. Further, if a particular users edits/efforts are not highly reliable, this can cause other users to want to constantly review the user's edits. This seems hugely disruptive. On that note</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>when bumping an old post for retagging (or when someone else bumps an old post), fix everything else that's wrong with the post at the same time: correct typos, remove incorrect tags, etc. This way, we won't have to bump it again to fix something else.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>While this is laudable, I think it is incredibly hard to fix all the tag issues in one go. In order to do that the editor would need an in depth understanding of the entire tag taxonomy. I think this type of approach leads to more mistakes. I think the cost of these mistakes would easily offset the advantages associated with the decrease in the total number of edits.</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>only bump 5-6 old posts at a time</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I am not sure if bumping 5-6 old posts a couple of times every day (potentially by different users) for weeks on end is more or less disruptive then a single large disruption during a period of low use. A single large disruption would flood the front page, but we would then be fully recovered with a day or so.</p>\n\n<p>The mod only analytics show that our total page views consistently spike early in the week and then drop to the lowest point on Saturday (about 60% of the peak). How the number of questions and answers varies is less clear, but I think the weekends are also the low points.</p>\n\n<p><strong>Proposal</strong>\nUsers that want to improve the tagging should chose a problem tag and create an list of questions that need the tag added and a list of questions that need the tag removed. Post this list to meta for some discussion and community agreement and then make the changes in a single session.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/16
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1246", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p>I am raising this question in response to a comment thread on <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/24048/11365">this post</a>. I'm not asking about that particular post, but about the practice in general.</p> <p>The question is about editing posts that mention widely known sites by name, to make them "clickable" links. For example, changing</p> <blockquote> <p>Twitter</p> </blockquote> <p>to</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://twitter.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Twitter</a></p> </blockquote> <p>There are several things to consider:</p> <ul> <li>Are these edits beneficial overall when they cause an old post to be bumped to the front page?</li> <li>Are these edits beneficial overall when the question is already on the front page?</li> <li>Are these edits beneficial overall when the user making them has less than 2k rep, so that the edit will be queued and consume reviewer resources?</li> </ul>
[ { "answer_id": 1253, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To summarize David Richerby's comments:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>Everybody knows where to find those sites so the links aren't useful...\n I'm not convinced that bulk-editing to add links to sites that are way more famous than this one is worthwhile. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>More specifically, I (DR) think it's very unlikely that somebody reading a post here on Academia.SE will think, \"Ooh. Twitter. That sounds like an exciting site. I think I'll follow this link to their front page.\"</p>\n\n<p>And when they cause the question to be bumped,</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>This kind of trivial edit of a rather old answer is harmful because it moves the question up to the front of the Active list, displacing some other question onto the second page. </p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>EnthusiasticStudent has pointed out that the questions were on the front page anyway when the links were added, so the bumping issue isn't very significant in this particular case. (Though it still means that the edited question will fall off the first page later than it would have done without the edit.)</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1254, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": -1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>To summarize Enthusiastic Student's comments:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n <p>I just do such edits, to make links clickable to the users and readers of the posts. This may seem to be useless, but having links on the post is far more attractive for the user than having a simple text. The only benefit is having clickable links on posts, nothing more. </p>\n</blockquote>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1255, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 4, "selected": true, "text": "<p>Personally, I find these links to well-known sites distracting more than helpful.</p>\n<ul>\n<li>They're in a different color, so they pull my focus</li>\n<li>They make posts &quot;feel&quot; kind of spammy</li>\n<li>I click on them accidentally more often than I do on purpose</li>\n<li>They make the more useful, non-obvious links stand out less</li>\n</ul>\n<p>(I also do not like edits linking to a user's Academia.SE page whenever they are mentioned by username in a question or answer, or linking mentions to other answers on the same page, for the same reasons.)</p>\n<p>I brought up this issue on <a href=\"https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/64463/are-hyperlinks-to-well-known-sites-useful-in-the-context-of-a-blog-post-or-stack\">User Experience Stack Exchange</a>.</p>\n<p>As an <a href=\"https://ux.stackexchange.com/a/64467/53842\">answer</a> there points out,</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Do you think users have a need to visit Facebook while reading your site?</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>I do not think we generally <em>want</em> users to click on these links while reading Academia.SE posts (unlike, say, links to useful outside resources, which we <em>do</em> want users to click on), so they shouldn't be clickable.</p>\n<p>Another <a href=\"https://ux.stackexchange.com/a/64472/53842\">answer</a> advises,</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I found little empirical data for UX hyperlinking best practices (couldn't link to it anyway), but find the practice of gratuitous links to everything, including well-known sites, to be annoying, distracting, confusing, and to serve little purpose.</p>\n<p>Unless you're linking to specific, relevant information or citing a source from that well-known site, there's no need for a hyperlink. If you're using the internet and are over the age of 12 you know what Facebook is.</p>\n</blockquote>\n" } ]
2014/09/16
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1252", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p>We currently have a <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/teaching" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;teaching&#39;" rel="tag">teaching</a> tag used on 265 questions, with the following wiki excerpt:</p> <blockquote> <p>This tag is related to the role and duties of a teacher, an academic instructor, tutor or a teaching assistant.</p> </blockquote> <p>and is also has <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/teachers" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;teachers&#39;" rel="tag">teachers</a> as a synonym.</p> <p>Now, a <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pedagogy" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;pedagogy&#39;" rel="tag">pedagogy</a> tag has been created and applied to 1 question. Its wiki excerpt is:</p> <blockquote> <p>Relates to the method and practice of teaching, especially as an academic subject or theoretical concept.</p> </blockquote> <p>Should we have both tags, as they are currently defined?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1264, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't think that the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pedagogy\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;pedagogy&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">pedagogy</a> tag, as currently defined, will be useful.</p>\n\n<p>\"Relates to the method and practice of teaching\" seems liable to confusion with <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/teaching\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;teaching&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">teaching</a> to me. </p>\n\n<p>I don't think <em>I</em> could reliably determine which questions should be tagged pedagogy instead of/in addition to teaching, and I suspect I'm not the only one. (And the upvotes on <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28670/how-do-you-choose-a-textbook-for-a-new-class#comment61831_28670\">this comment</a> suggest that others agree.)</p>\n\n<p>This is not to say that I think \"teaching\" and \"pedagogy\" mean exactly identical things. But, I'm concerned that in practice, the distinction is too fine for many users (and the excerpt is not very helpful in clarifying the distinction). </p>\n\n<p>I don't think it's productive to have a pair of tags that only a small portion of users on the site can actually distinguish between. Tags that are subject to misinterpretation or misuse are bad for the site.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1265, "author": "StrongBad", "author_id": 929, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/929", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I created the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pedagogy\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;pedagogy&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">pedagogy</a> tag yesterday so there is currently only one question with the tag, but I would imagine that all, or nearly all, questions that are suitable for the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pedagogy\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;pedagogy&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">pedagogy</a> tag would also be suitable for the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/teaching\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;teaching&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">teaching</a> tag. While most of the questions with the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/teaching\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;teaching&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">teaching</a> tag are also about pedagogy, there are some that seem clearly not about pedagogy. Looking at the first 50 questions with the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/teaching\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;teaching&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">teaching</a> tag sorted by votes, the following 7 questions do not seem to be about pedagogy in even the widest possible sense.</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15136/is-it-ethical-to-profit-by-having-my-students-buy-my-textbook\">Is it ethical to profit by having my students buy my textbook?</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/26971/do-student-reviews-of-teachers-matter\">Do student reviews of teachers matter?</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/9140/do-teaching-evaluations-lead-to-lower-standards-in-class\">Do teaching evaluations lead to lower standards in class?</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/12910/is-it-ethical-to-share-the-knowledge-for-free-that-ive-learned-at-the-universit\">Is it ethical to share the knowledge for free that I&#39;ve learned at the university?</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/14235/how-did-modern-western-post-secondary-education-become-tied-up-with-research-and\">How did modern western post-secondary education become tied up with research and publications?</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/183/is-there-a-correlation-between-being-a-good-teacher-and-being-a-good-researcher\">Is there a correlation between being a good teacher and being a good researcher?</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/7297/is-it-okay-to-use-students-as-a-reference-when-applying-for-a-teaching-position\">Is it okay to use students as a reference when applying for a teaching position?</a></p>\n\n<p>That to me suggests that we needed a narrow tag on teaching to alert users to the fact that it is addressing pedagogical issues of teaching. I think we have a number of umbrella tags that fully encompass other tags. For example I cannot see any questions with the <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/journals\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;journals&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">journals</a> tag that should not also be tagged <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/publications\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;publications&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">publications</a>. Similarly <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/job-search\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;job-search&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">job-search</a> seems to include everything in <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/faculty-application\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;faculty-application&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">faculty-application</a>, but also many other questions.</p>\n\n<p>I would propose that the above question be tagged teaching and the vast majority of the questions currently tagged teaching be retagged to include both teaching and pedagogy (although from a technical standpoint it might be easier to retag everything and then remove the pedagogy tag where needed).</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1275, "author": "Village", "author_id": 600, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/600", "pm_score": 1, "selected": false, "text": "<p>These seem different to me.</p>\n\n<p>Questions with the \"teaching\" tag will just refer to questions involving situations relating to the teacher's role in courses they teach. This might include classroom management, assessment, etc. For example, a question written by a TA who wants to know how to discipline some cheating students would use \"teaching\".</p>\n\n<p>Questions with \"pedagogy\" should refer to questions relating to the teaching methodology. Perhaps \"pedagogics\" or \"teaching-methods\" is a more precise term, and more relates to the details of how one frames the content or skills for effective delivery to students. I can find no examples of this on Academics, but that maybe is not a big surprise, because most tertiary instructors just lecture and transfer the learning responsibility onto students.</p>\n\n<p>Most questions tagged \"pedagogy\" are going to also have the \"teaching\" tag, but the reverse will not always be true.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1276, "author": "Raphael", "author_id": 1419, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/1419", "pm_score": 0, "selected": false, "text": "<p>A tag the specifically denotes questions that ask \"how do I present X in the best way?\" (which is a proper subset of <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/teaching\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;teaching&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">teaching</a>) would be useful.</p>\n\n<p>I propose to use <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/didactics\" class=\"post-tag\" title=\"show questions tagged &#39;didactics&#39;\" rel=\"tag\">didactics</a> which is, imho and afaik, a better term for what happens at universities.</p>\n" } ]
2014/09/19
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1263", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365/" ]
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<p>By reading the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/tags/reputation/info">tag excerpt</a> about <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reputation" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;reputation&#39;" rel="tag">reputation</a>;</p> <blockquote> <p>The perception of the quality of a journal, conference, or university by a specific community or the general public. Also: how reputation develops and factors influencing reputation.</p> </blockquote> <p>it seems that this tag only covers questions about reputation of journals and research institutes; all <em>but</em> individuals. By reading a recent question about the reputation of individuals;</p> <p><a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28827/how-to-judge-the-reputation-of-a-research-group-or-professor-for-good-quality-re">How to judge the reputation of a research group or professor for good quality research for PhD?</a></p> <p>this question comes to mind that;</p> <pre><code>Does this tag cover questions about persons too? </code></pre> <p>If it should not be used, the question should be edited and if it is allowed on the questions about people's reputation, we should change this tag's excerpt.</p>
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2014/09/21
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1268", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>I can not understand what is wrong with bumping older questions to the top active list of questions by editing them.</p> <p>If somebody wants to reach the newest questions asked on Academia, he can move to the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions?sort=newest">Newest Questions</a> page and read all the newest ones.</p> <p>I think it's a good feature to have older questions be bumped to the active list; some of these questions have been inactive for more than one or two years. Most of newer users may have not read such questions. They can read them and answer some of them. Some of these older questions have problems such as tags, typos, etc and users may see them in the active list and edit them as well.</p> <pre><code>Could you please declare me, what harms can bumping older and inactive questions to the active questions list have to site? and what benefits has not-bumping to the Academia? </code></pre>
[ { "answer_id": 1272, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Here are <a href=\"https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/48578/what-can-cause-my-question-to-be-bumped/48579#48579\">all the reasons</a> a post could end up on the top of the \"Active Questions\" list:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>New question (also visible at top of \"Newest Questions\" list), which hasn't gotten any attention/answers at all yet.</li>\n<li>New answer (to an old or new question), which users should vote up or down to show whether it's a good answer or not.</li>\n<li>Major edit to clarify or add new information to a question or answer, that might make users want to revise their original up/down/close/delete votes.</li>\n<li>A question that was closed (and therefore, didn't get any answers before) has been fixed, and so it's reopened.</li>\n<li>User added bounty to question to get it more attention (also visible on \"featured\" questions list)</li>\n<li>Unanswered old question is automatically bumped by Community user to get it more attention.</li>\n<li>An edit to an old question that already got a lot of attention and has good answers (or an edit to one of its answers) that is a non-trivial edit or retag that adds value. This is bumped to the top so users can review the edit and make sure it was correct, and revert it if it was not.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>All of these kinds of posts/edits <em>need</em> some kind of attention from other users, and <em>should</em> be bumped to the front page. </p>\n\n<p>But the things at the top of the list are generally considered more in need of attention than category #7. It's fine (even good!) if a few questions in category #7 are bumped here and there, but not if it's so many that most of the questions in categories #1-6 are pushed down the front page.</p>\n\n<p>For example, imagine you spent 45 minutes composing a <em>great,</em> well-researched, targeted answer to a question. Then, immediately after you submit the answer, someone else bumps 20 old questions to add a tag. Nobody sees your answer now that it's all the way down the \"Active Questions\" list, and you don't get any upvotes for this amazing answer that you worked really hard on. This is obviously discouraging and demoralizing, and makes a good contributor not want to contribute anymore.</p>\n\n<p>Or imagine you're a new user, and you posted a question because you really want an answer. But the question needed improvement, and was downvoted and closed. You work really hard to understand why the question was closed, and put in a lot of effort to improve it. Finally, after four days of working on the question, it's reopened! But 20 old questions that were edited right after your question was reopened have bumped yours all the way down the \"Active Questions\" list so it doesn't get any answers. As a new user, you feel discouraged, and wonder if the time and effort you put into learning how to use the site was a waste.</p>\n\n<p>On the other hand, if those 20 old questions were spaced out a little so they didn't flood the front page and knock posts in categories #1-6 too far down, I can't think of any negative effects.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1280, "author": "Journeyman Geek", "author_id": 22394, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/22394", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I'm a mod at one or two of the other sites, and in my experience it comes down to how people use the site. This is entirely unscientific and anecdotal</p>\n\n<p>Most people skim the front page, and look for new questions to answer. <em>One</em> bump pushes off a newer question off the front page. I generally do say 5 in the space of an hour (which is ok). If you did 20, the front page is nearly entirely unusable. Nearly no one actually uses the <em>newest</em> questions tab by default. Humans are lazy, and the front page, by being the first port of call is the place most people will be.</p>\n\n<p>I think another issue you should consider is <em>why</em> the edits, and how you can minimize the disruption. In <em>normal</em> situations, you come across a question, see something that needs a fix and you do it. Things that need edits in bulk are uncommon, and are rarely urgent. There are exceptions of course, but even then its something for the <em>community</em> to decide, organise, and carry out.</p>\n\n<p>Trickling edits are <em>polite</em> - you get to do edits that are needed and <em>other</em> folks aren't inconvenienced in any way. You can't expect folk to change their behavior, but you can adjust and <em>make a difference</em> </p>\n" } ]
2014/09/21
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1270", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15723/" ]
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<p>I recently posted <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/29122/i-want-to-study-computational-linguistics-and-nlp-which-program-to-enter">this question</a>, which was closed as off-topic for being too specific to my situation. I admit I'm a little bit confused, since it didn't seem particularly more situation-specific than <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17780/my-plan-to-get-into-a-cs-phd-program?lq=1">this question</a>. I'd like to improve the question by generalizing it so it can be reopened; since I clearly missed something when I was writing the question, I'd like some feedback on my proposed changes.</p> <p>Here's a rough outline of how I would like to re-word the question:</p> <blockquote> <h1>What background is necessary to do research in computational linguistics?</h1> <p>I'm getting ready to enter graduate school, and I would like to do PhD-level research in computational linguistics and natural language processing. I know that these two fields are very interdisciplinary and draw on various subfields of linguistics, computer science, math, and statistics. I also know that research in comp ling and NLP is done in different departments at different schools, with some schools having it in the CS department, and some in the linguistics department.</p> <p>Ideally, what background knowledge should someone have in order to do research in computational linguistics or natural language processing? Which areas of linguistics, computer science, math, and statistics are necessary or helpful in studying comp ling and NLP, and is there one field among those four which is overall more necessary than the others?</p> <p>(Note: per <a href="https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/1802/what-are-the-fundamental-differences-between-natural-language-processing-and-com">this question from Linguistics.SE</a>, the distinction between comp ling and NLP is pretty blurry, which is why I mention both in my question.)</p> </blockquote> <p>I'd like to know if there's any more room for improvement, if this looks like a valid, on-topic question, or if there's no saving this question and I should delete it.</p>
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2014/09/29
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1277", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/12904/" ]
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<p>I was wondering what is the responsibility of the site with regard to content posted by users that could potentially be defaming? This question was prompted by <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/29282/are-conferences-organized-by-iact-like-icke-fake">https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/29282/are-conferences-organized-by-iact-like-icke-fake</a> I have no idea about that conference, but there is a basically a post on our site clearly associating this conference with fake ones. What would happen if the organisers would complain about it? </p> <p>I'm assuming Ac.SE falls under US law, which I'm not particularly familiar with, and, to the best of my knowledge, this problem has not happened yet, but should we take precautionary measures? </p>
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2014/10/01
[ "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1282", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com", "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/" ]
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<p>Academia inspires a whole range of emotions in people. We get a lot of questions here of the form "How to deal with feeling X?", or "Is it common for people in my situation to feel X?", where X is:</p> <ul> <li><strong>Lack of motivation</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/24372/how-to-stay-motivated-in-a-low-motivated-group">How to stay motivated in a low-motivated group?</a> and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/20839/how-to-motivate-myself-to-do-more-than-the-bare-minimum-that-is-required-of-me">How to motivate myself to do more than the bare minimum that is required of me?</a></li> <li><strong>Discouraged</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/2219/how-should-i-deal-with-discouragement-as-a-graduate-student">How should I deal with discouragement as a graduate student?</a> and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/15457/how-should-i-deal-with-discouragement-looking-at-others-success">How should I deal with discouragement looking at others success?</a></li> <li><strong>Guilt</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/17988/how-to-stop-feeling-guilty-about-the-unfinished-work">How to stop feeling guilty about the unfinished work?</a></li> <li><strong>Burnout</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/7668/what-can-i-do-to-recover-from-a-short-term-burnout">What can I do to recover from a short term burnout?</a> and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/10969/strategies-to-overcome-academic-apathy-in-the-final-stages-of-the-phd">Strategies to overcome “academic-apathy” in the final stages of the PhD?</a></li> <li><strong>Intimidated</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/26615/how-do-i-stop-feeling-intimidated-by-my-advisor">How do I stop feeling intimidated by my advisor?</a></li> <li><strong>Dread</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/21345/is-it-normal-to-feel-dread-before-starting-a-faculty-position">Is it normal to feel dread before starting a faculty position?</a></li> <li><strong>Impatient</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/12829/is-it-normal-to-feel-impatient-in-lectures-when-a-lecturer-explains-material-tha">Is it normal to feel impatient in lectures when a lecturer explains material that could be obtained from textbooks?</a></li> <li><strong>Undeserving</strong>: <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/11765/ive-somehow-convinced-everyone-that-im-actually-good-at-this-how-to-effect">“I've somehow convinced everyone that I'm actually good at this” - how to effectively deal with Imposter Syndrome</a></li> </ul> <p>I think we need a tag to cover questions specifically about "dealing with the things I am feeling." </p> <p>The scope of the tag would be something like:</p> <blockquote> <p>On emotional issues such as guilt, discouragement, jealousy, or feelings of inadequacy affecting academics and researchers.</p> </blockquote> <p>It's similar to tags like <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/health-issues" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;health-issues&#39;" rel="tag">health-issues</a>, <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/religious-issues" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;religious-issues&#39;" rel="tag">religious-issues</a>, and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/legal-issues" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;legal-issues&#39;" rel="tag">legal-issues</a> in that scope. </p> <p>But, I have no idea what such a tag should be called. </p> <p>I think <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/emotional-issues" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;emotional-issues&#39;" rel="tag">emotional-issues</a> implies <em>abnormal</em> emotions, which is definitely not something I want this tag name to convey. </p> <p>And I don't like just <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/emotions" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;emotions&#39;" rel="tag">emotions</a>, because then it's likely to also be used for questions about research/study related to emotions. (I know this because that's what happened to <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/healthcare" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;healthcare&#39;" rel="tag">healthcare</a> before I split it into <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/medicine" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;medicine&#39;" rel="tag">medicine</a> and <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/health-issues" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;health-issues&#39;" rel="tag">health-issues</a>, and there were similar issues with <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/law" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;law&#39;" rel="tag">law</a> until I created <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/legal-issues" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;legal-issues&#39;" rel="tag">legal-issues</a>.) This would make it a bad dual-purpose tag.</p> <p>Any ideas? </p> <p>Note: The tag should exclude questions on dealing with <em>other</em> people who have these emotions (or, who the OP thinks have these emotions) - these are better categorized as <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/interpersonal-issues" class="post-tag" title="show questions tagged &#39;interpersonal-issues&#39;" rel="tag">interpersonal-issues</a></p>
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2014/10/02
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<p>I am not sure if this question is appropriate for the main site or not. A while back I asked about the <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/7908/value-of-light-to-none-peer-reviewed-pay-to-publish-articles">Value of light-to-none peer reviewed pay-to-publish articles</a> when evaluating a potential PhD student. The answers all suggest I should treat them as any other non-peer reviewed article (which is essentially the same thing you do with peer reviewed articles). This recent question by a PhD applicant asks <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/29543/should-i-list-my-papers-which-are-published-in-less-known-journals-in-my-cv">Should I list my papers which are published in less known journals in my CV?</a> and the answers seem to suggest that if the "less known" journals are predatory that you should avoid listing them on your CV. This seems in contradiction to the answers I got. Is there a contradiction, or am I missing something?</p>
[ { "answer_id": 1291, "author": "ff524", "author_id": 11365, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/11365", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>I don't think it's necessarily a contradiction.</p>\n\n<p>Presumably, listing an article you published in a predatory journal shows a lack of experience or understanding of the publication process. </p>\n\n<p>The advice to you, as the person evaluating these CVs, is not to punish the student for this lack of understanding. The <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/7908/value-of-light-to-none-peer-reviewed-pay-to-publish-articles\">answers there</a> suggest giving the student the benefit of the doubt, since he/she may have had an inadequate advisor who didn't train them in this aspect of academia.</p>\n\n<p>But students can't count on everyone who evaluates their CV to be so understanding of their naïveté. Thus, <a href=\"https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/29543/should-i-list-my-papers-which-are-published-in-less-known-journals-in-my-cv\">the advice</a> not to list it on the CV - since the reader's negative impression of those who publish in predatory journals can outweigh any favorable impact the content of the paper may have.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1293, "author": "eykanal", "author_id": 73, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/73", "pm_score": 3, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Pay to publish ≠ Lesser known journals</p>\n\n<p>There are thousands of perfectly legitimate but low-impact journals. Publishing in those is by no means a negative reflection on one's character, skill, or whatever. There are also thousands of predatory, pay-to-publish journals. Publishing in those is almost always a bad idea, and may reflect negatively on an individual.</p>\n" }, { "answer_id": 1301, "author": "xLeitix", "author_id": 10094, "author_profile": "https://academia.meta.stackexchange.com/users/10094", "pm_score": 2, "selected": false, "text": "<p>Aside from whether this is a contradiction or not, I think it is ambitious to assume that the answers given here are necessarily internally consistent. Different persons answer different questions, and the underlying assumptions etc. are not necessarily the same. That is, I am pretty sure that one would be able to find two related questions where the most upvoted / accepted answers are indeed contradictory, but I see absolutely no way to prevent this.</p>\n" } ]
2014/10/07
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