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told me one time he said," }, { "start": 24.92, "end": 27.68, "text": " when the sun comes up, I have spent in money." }, { "start": 27.68, "end": 28.84, "text": " See, it's a big family." }, { "start": 28.84, "end": 30.92, "text": " Yeah, he's got like five kids." }, { "start": 30.92, "end": 33.76, "text": " Brian's only got two, but he's got an enormous watch collection" }, { "start": 33.76, "end": 35.76, "text": " and needs some habits." }, { "start": 35.76, "end": 38.88, "text": " But do you know how big watch culture is online?" }, { "start": 38.88, "end": 40.28, "text": " Because I just wanted to look up something" }, { "start": 40.28, "end": 41.8, "text": " about this watch that I got." }, { "start": 41.8, "end": 44.64, "text": " And now because of the algorithm, like on my YouTube channel," }, { "start": 44.64, "end": 46.56, "text": " I'm just getting all these watch watch." }, { "start": 46.56, "end": 51.2, "text": " Watch reviews and like people pulling out the $50,000" }, { "start": 51.2, "end": 52.4, "text": " bling Rolex." }, { "start": 52.4, "end": 53.96, "text": " It's me and hummingbirds." }, { "start": 53.96, "end": 54.68, "text": " That's it." }, { "start": 54.68, "end": 58.0, "text": " There's this guy in the Pacific Northwest in Oregon." }, { "start": 58.0, "end": 59.84, "text": " He's like the hummingbird guy." }, { "start": 59.84, "end": 62.12, "text": " Does he do like time lapse kind of cameras and slowmo?" }, { "start": 62.12, "end": 62.96, "text": " Oh, I just got this stuff." }, { "start": 62.96, "end": 63.96, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 63.96, "end": 65.16, "text": " And they're like, did you see the documentary?" }, { "start": 65.16, "end": 68.04, "text": " And their times are like, anything with otters." }, { "start": 68.04, "end": 68.96000000000001, "text": " It's just like, oh my god." }, { "start": 68.96000000000001, "end": 69.8, "text": " They're so cute." }, { "start": 69.8, "end": 70.8, "text": " They're so cute." }, { "start": 70.8, "end": 72.04, "text": " Stinky though." }, { "start": 72.04, "end": 73.56, "text": " Have you ever been up close with otters?" }, { "start": 73.56, "end": 74.6, "text": " I haven't been up close with the otter." }, { "start": 74.6, "end": 76.0, "text": " I have said an otter." }, { "start": 76.0, "end": 77.08, "text": " That's what she said." }, { "start": 77.08, "end": 78.08, "text": " That doesn't work." }, { "start": 78.08, "end": 79.0, "text": " It didn't quite work." }, { "start": 79.0, "end": 79.52, "text": " What's it?" }, { "start": 79.52, "end": 81.24000000000001, "text": " Where on her body is the otter?" }, { "start": 81.24000000000001, "end": 85.36, "text": " It's just a euphemism for like a stinky hairy part of the body." }, { "start": 85.36, "end": 86.2, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 86.2, "end": 87.04, "text": " Well said." }, { "start": 87.04, "end": 88.72, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 88.72, "end": 89.72, "text": " No." }, { "start": 89.72, "end": 92.08, "text": " The penis, not the vagina." }, { "start": 93.08, "end": 94.08, "text": " God, well, my god." }, { "start": 94.08, "end": 94.92, "text": " Oh my god." }, { "start": 94.92, "end": 95.76, "text": " I'm out of the gutter." }, { "start": 95.76, "end": 96.68, "text": " Oh, Lordy." }, { "start": 96.68, "end": 98.12, "text": " So tell me, they stink in person?" }, { "start": 98.12, "end": 101.8, "text": " Well, they just love a lot of smelly foods." }, { "start": 101.8, "end": 102.64, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 102.64, "end": 103.48, "text": " Abolones." }, { "start": 103.48, "end": 105.12, "text": " They kind of come up and they take it and they will." }, { "start": 105.12, "end": 105.96000000000001, "text": " Help." }, { "start": 105.96000000000001, "end": 106.80000000000001, "text": " They eat it." }, { "start": 106.80000000000001, "end": 107.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 107.64, "end": 108.60000000000001, "text": " It's like flamingos." }, { "start": 108.60000000000001, "end": 110.36, "text": " Have you ever gone and seen some flamingos?" }, { "start": 110.36, "end": 112.04, "text": " There's a lot of scat." }, { "start": 112.04, "end": 113.32000000000001, "text": " There's a lot." }, { "start": 113.32000000000001, "end": 114.80000000000001, "text": " Yeah, there's a lot of poop." }, { "start": 114.80000000000001, "end": 115.64, "text": " They're pink." }, { "start": 115.8, "end": 116.8, "text": " Gorgeous stink." }, { "start": 116.8, "end": 117.8, "text": " Gorgeous stinko." }, { "start": 117.8, "end": 118.64, "text": " Stinko." }, { "start": 118.64, "end": 119.64, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 119.64, "end": 122.36, "text": " Yeah, that is a problem." }, { "start": 122.36, "end": 124.48, "text": " We have two pigs, as you know." }, { "start": 124.48, "end": 125.48, "text": " I do." }, { "start": 125.48, "end": 126.48, "text": " Snorri and Amy." }, { "start": 126.48, "end": 127.48, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 127.48, "end": 128.48, "text": " And guess what?" }, { "start": 128.48, "end": 129.48, "text": " They don't smell." }, { "start": 129.48, "end": 130.48, "text": " They don't smell." }, { "start": 130.48, "end": 131.48, "text": " They don't." }, { "start": 131.48, "end": 132.48, "text": " They like to roll in mud." }, { "start": 132.48, "end": 133.48, "text": " True." }, { "start": 133.48, "end": 134.48, "text": " Mm-hmm." }, { "start": 134.48, "end": 136.6, "text": " But you can just hug them and snuggle them and pet their bellies." }, { "start": 136.6, "end": 140.08, "text": " And there's some dirt there, but no smell and they're clean." }, { "start": 140.08, "end": 141.72, "text": " I mean, it's weird." }, { "start": 141.72, "end": 144.68, "text": " Other than the mud on them, they're clean." }, { "start": 144.84, "end": 145.68, "text": " Do you know what I mean?" }, { "start": 145.68, "end": 147.56, "text": " Like they pee in the corner." }, { "start": 147.56, "end": 148.56, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 148.56, "end": 149.56, "text": " They don't smell." }, { "start": 149.56, "end": 150.56, "text": " And they're very like..." }, { "start": 150.56, "end": 151.56, "text": " They're tidy." }, { "start": 151.56, "end": 152.56, "text": " They're tidy." }, { "start": 152.56, "end": 153.56, "text": " And they're appropriate." }, { "start": 153.56, "end": 154.56, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 154.56, "end": 155.56, "text": " They're so adorable." }, { "start": 155.56, "end": 156.56, "text": " You don't eat bacon anymore, right?" }, { "start": 156.56, "end": 158.56, "text": " Didn't you say you stopped?" }, { "start": 158.56, "end": 166.16, "text": " I thought you told me you got attached to your pigs and you stopped eating bacon." }, { "start": 166.16, "end": 168.16, "text": " I did tell you that." }, { "start": 168.16, "end": 170.16, "text": " So, Angela." }, { "start": 170.16, "end": 171.16, "text": " Hey there." }, { "start": 171.16, "end": 175.0, "text": " It's me, Rain Wilson." }, { "start": 175.0, "end": 177.44, "text": " And I want to dig into the human experience." }, { "start": 177.44, "end": 180.48, "text": " I want to have conversations about a spiritual revolution." }, { "start": 180.48, "end": 186.2, "text": " Let's get deep with our favorite thinkers, friends, and entertainers about life, meaning" }, { "start": 186.2, "end": 187.72, "text": " in idiocy." }, { "start": 187.72, "end": 195.96, "text": " Welcome to the Soul Boom podcast." }, { "start": 195.96, "end": 199.32, "text": " Thanks for coming on the Soul Boom podcast, Angela Kinsey." }, { "start": 200.04, "end": 202.32, "text": " Thanks for having me, Rain Wilson." }, { "start": 202.32, "end": 205.32, "text": " Did I meet you 20 years ago, almost?" }, { "start": 205.32, "end": 206.56, "text": " Oh, God, really?" }, { "start": 206.56, "end": 207.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 207.56, "end": 208.56, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 208.56, "end": 211.51999999999998, "text": " We started filming the pilot in January of 2004." }, { "start": 211.51999999999998, "end": 213.16, "text": " That was a long time ago." }, { "start": 213.16, "end": 216.0, "text": " By the time this comes out, it will be 20 years." }, { "start": 216.0, "end": 217.0, "text": " 20 years." }, { "start": 217.0, "end": 219.16, "text": " It's weird to interview someone you've known so long, right?" }, { "start": 219.16, "end": 220.16, "text": " 20 years." }, { "start": 220.16, "end": 226.12, "text": " We are friendship is older than some people watching." }, { "start": 226.12, "end": 227.12, "text": " That's pathetic." }, { "start": 227.12, "end": 228.12, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 228.12, "end": 229.12, "text": " We're old." }, { "start": 229.12, "end": 232.08, "text": " This is a different kind of conversation and a different kind of podcast." }, { "start": 232.08, "end": 238.12, "text": " I'm hoping to get to know a different part of you and to help share that with the folks." }, { "start": 238.12, "end": 239.12, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 239.12, "end": 244.76, "text": " But when we were talking the other day about like, we have so many things in common." }, { "start": 244.76, "end": 245.96, "text": " It's almost crazy." }, { "start": 245.96, "end": 251.12, "text": " Like going down the list, one of them is you and I both lived in foreign countries as" }, { "start": 251.12, "end": 252.12, "text": " a child." }, { "start": 252.12, "end": 253.12, "text": " That's right." }, { "start": 253.12, "end": 254.12, "text": " That's crazy." }, { "start": 254.12, "end": 257.16, "text": " We both have a ringworm story." }, { "start": 257.16, "end": 258.16, "text": " So I didn't have a ringworm." }, { "start": 258.16, "end": 266.64000000000004, "text": " I just had, I had intestinal worms that came out of my butthole when I took the right," }, { "start": 266.64000000000004, "end": 270.68, "text": " the appropriate medication as I wrote about in the Besoon King." }, { "start": 270.68, "end": 277.68, "text": " And they would occasionally come out in my underpants, squirming around when I was a child." }, { "start": 277.68, "end": 278.68, "text": " Did you know this?" }, { "start": 278.68, "end": 280.32000000000005, "text": " Did I tell you this?" }, { "start": 280.32000000000005, "end": 284.8, "text": " One time one came out and then I plucked it out of my underwear." }, { "start": 284.8, "end": 286.40000000000003, "text": " You reached out or didn't you feel it?" }, { "start": 286.40000000000003, "end": 287.40000000000003, "text": " Yes." }, { "start": 287.4, "end": 291.44, "text": " I was about four years old and I held it up and it was white." }, { "start": 291.44, "end": 295.44, "text": " It was as white and pale as you can possibly imagine." }, { "start": 295.44, "end": 297.47999999999996, "text": " It was like gym gaffigan level." }, { "start": 297.47999999999996, "end": 299.47999999999996, "text": " And then he's worried." }, { "start": 299.47999999999996, "end": 307.28, "text": " And then he was, and then I threw it down and then my, we were living in Nicaragua and" }, { "start": 307.28, "end": 311.17999999999995, "text": " my stepmom was like, kill it, kill it and these kids came out with a shovel and they" }, { "start": 311.17999999999995, "end": 312.88, "text": " were stabbing the worm." }, { "start": 312.88, "end": 314.84, "text": " And she was like, don't touch it." }, { "start": 314.84, "end": 315.84, "text": " It's dirty." }, { "start": 315.84, "end": 316.84, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 316.91999999999996, "end": 317.91999999999996, "text": " But like, what's the thing?" }, { "start": 317.91999999999996, "end": 321.32, "text": " They were like, kill it and, um," }, { "start": 321.32, "end": 323.08, "text": " is it funny how that turns up?" }, { "start": 323.08, "end": 323.96, "text": " Did it turn for you?" }, { "start": 323.96, "end": 326.76, "text": " Did you have a moment where you were like, ew, that's gross." }, { "start": 326.76, "end": 329.0, "text": " And then when they went at it, you're like, okay, maybe not." }, { "start": 329.0, "end": 330.0, "text": " You take it." }, { "start": 330.0, "end": 332.0, "text": " That used to be a part of my body." }, { "start": 332.0, "end": 333.0, "text": " What are you doing?" }, { "start": 333.0, "end": 335.76, "text": " He lived in my intestine for months." }, { "start": 335.76, "end": 336.76, "text": " Let's move on." }, { "start": 336.76, "end": 337.52, "text": " Let's go back." }, { "start": 337.52, "end": 338.96, "text": " What foreign country did you live in?" }, { "start": 338.96, "end": 342.08, "text": " I lived in Indonesia and my sister got a tapeworm." }, { "start": 342.08, "end": 343.08, "text": " I did not." }, { "start": 343.08, "end": 344.55999999999995, "text": " Uh, a tapeworm." }, { "start": 344.55999999999995, "end": 345.71999999999997, "text": " You didn't get any worms." }, { "start": 345.72, "end": 346.72, "text": " I didn't get any worms." }, { "start": 346.72, "end": 347.72, "text": " No." }, { "start": 347.72, "end": 348.72, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 348.72, "end": 349.72, "text": " Did you have any strange diseases?" }, { "start": 349.72, "end": 350.72, "text": " I also had a mebic dysentery." }, { "start": 350.72, "end": 351.72, "text": " Top that." }, { "start": 351.72, "end": 352.72, "text": " I didn't." }, { "start": 352.72, "end": 353.72, "text": " I didn't." }, { "start": 353.72, "end": 354.72, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 354.72, "end": 355.72, "text": " What?" }, { "start": 355.72, "end": 356.72, "text": " I can't talk it." }, { "start": 356.72, "end": 358.72, "text": " Indonesia's next to Malaysia and the Philippines down there, right?" }, { "start": 358.72, "end": 359.72, "text": " Yeah." }, { "start": 359.72, "end": 360.72, "text": " It's near Singapore, Australia." }, { "start": 360.72, "end": 361.72, "text": " Right." }, { "start": 361.72, "end": 363.72, "text": " What island were you on, or city, or town?" }, { "start": 363.72, "end": 364.72, "text": " I was in Jakarta." }, { "start": 364.72, "end": 365.72, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 365.72, "end": 366.72, "text": " It's the island of Java." }, { "start": 366.72, "end": 367.72, "text": " Okay." }, { "start": 367.72, "end": 369.72, "text": " And do you speak any Indonesian?" }, { "start": 369.72, "end": 371.72, "text": " Sayasura Lupa Banyak." }, { "start": 371.72, "end": 374.72, "text": " I said, I've forgotten a lot." }, { "start": 374.72, "end": 378.48, "text": " I'm Sakarang, sayabajara, to Manthamansaya." }, { "start": 378.48, "end": 381.52000000000004, "text": " Right now, I'm talking to my friend." }, { "start": 381.52000000000004, "end": 383.72, "text": " How many years did you live in Indonesia?" }, { "start": 383.72, "end": 384.72, "text": " 12 years." }, { "start": 384.72, "end": 386.04, "text": " Duoblas." }, { "start": 386.04, "end": 387.28000000000003, "text": " Can you say..." }, { "start": 387.28000000000003, "end": 390.12, "text": " Probably not, whatever you're going to say." }, { "start": 390.12, "end": 391.12, "text": " Help." }, { "start": 391.12, "end": 392.6, "text": " There's an elephant in my kitchen." }, { "start": 392.6, "end": 394.6, "text": " Somebody get me a waffle iron." }, { "start": 394.6, "end": 395.6, "text": " No." }, { "start": 395.6, "end": 397.72, "text": " So, you can't say that." }, { "start": 397.72, "end": 398.72, "text": " You can't say that." }, { "start": 398.72, "end": 399.72, "text": " I forgot." }, { "start": 399.72, "end": 400.72, "text": " Can you say hello, my name is Angela?" }, { "start": 400.72, "end": 401.72, "text": " Abokabad." }, { "start": 401.72, "end": 402.72, "text": " Namanya Sayas." }, { "start": 402.72, "end": 403.72, "text": " Angela." }, { "start": 403.72, "end": 407.04, "text": " Angela. Well done. Well done. But I've forgotten the word for" }, { "start": 407.04, "end": 410.06, "text": " elephant. But what do you what do you remember about this Texan" }, { "start": 410.06, "end": 413.82000000000005, "text": " family, Texan oil family? Yeah. You dad worked in the oil oil" }, { "start": 413.82000000000005, "end": 418.38000000000005, "text": " industry in winter. Louisiana and Texas to go get oil out of" }, { "start": 418.5, "end": 422.34000000000003, "text": " Indonesia. Yeah, he was a drilling engineer. And he was" }, { "start": 422.34000000000003, "end": 426.46000000000004, "text": " transferred there in the 70s. It was very small expat" }, { "start": 426.46000000000004, "end": 429.62, "text": " community at that time. Most of my friends were from all over" }, { "start": 429.62, "end": 435.94, "text": " the world. And it was magical. I look back on it now with such" }, { "start": 435.94, "end": 441.98, "text": " fond memories. I think about I think about all of it. And it" }, { "start": 441.98, "end": 445.94, "text": " plays out so vividly in my mind. Are there monkeys? Yes. And" }, { "start": 445.94, "end": 448.34000000000003, "text": " you know, here's the thing we had like field trips, you know," }, { "start": 448.34000000000003, "end": 451.34000000000003, "text": " yeah. So like my school had a field trip, but we went to an" }, { "start": 451.34000000000003, "end": 455.54, "text": " orangutan sanctuary. Oh, but orangutan is Orang Hutan, which" }, { "start": 455.54, "end": 459.66, "text": " orangus person and Hutan is forest, is like person of the" }, { "start": 459.66, "end": 464.22, "text": " forest. Wow, for us person like Creed, yeah, like Creed, like" }, { "start": 464.22, "end": 469.02000000000004, "text": " Creed, and I, you know, whatever, it I feel like the places that" }, { "start": 469.02000000000004, "end": 471.94, "text": " we went to, we would go out to the Thousand Islands, Kapu" }, { "start": 471.94, "end": 474.02000000000004, "text": " Lansari, boo. Is that where they came up with the salad" }, { "start": 474.02000000000004, "end": 479.5, "text": " dressing? The sole American. That must be where my" }, { "start": 479.5, "end": 484.82, "text": " person's from. Yes, I'm American. I'm American. Yes, an" }, { "start": 484.82, "end": 488.42, "text": " Indonesia, they were like, what's going to dress? No, it's just," }, { "start": 488.42, "end": 491.98, "text": " it's a, you know, thousands of islands, by the way, it is with" }, { "start": 491.98, "end": 496.14, "text": " a little bit of pickle. No, I don't know. That's like special" }, { "start": 496.14, "end": 500.1, "text": " sauce. Yeah, that is, that's like a Burger King sauce, or" }, { "start": 500.1, "end": 502.9, "text": " special sauce. Sorry, I keep interrupting you. No, it's fun." }, { "start": 502.9, "end": 506.06, "text": " And you know, I love you. So what other memories of Indonesia?" }, { "start": 507.02, "end": 509.7, "text": " The islands, the Thousand Islands, your salad dressing" }, { "start": 509.7, "end": 514.42, "text": " islands, we would go out there all the time. I remember waking up" }, { "start": 514.42, "end": 517.54, "text": " hearing a noise and went out and there was the trash can was made" }, { "start": 517.54, "end": 520.18, "text": " of wood. It went like this. I had a little wood lid and there" }, { "start": 520.18, "end": 524.66, "text": " was a commoto dragon coming out of it, like taking our trash." }, { "start": 525.66, "end": 529.38, "text": " Commoto dragon eating your garbage. Yes, that's amazing. I" }, { "start": 529.38, "end": 532.62, "text": " remember we got, I feel like so many of my memories are animals," }, { "start": 532.62, "end": 535.62, "text": " you know, but I was a kid. There was noise in the ceiling and" }, { "start": 535.74, "end": 539.02, "text": " there was a mangoes in the ceiling, a mangoes in the ceiling." }, { "start": 539.46, "end": 542.62, "text": " My parents were trying to teach me the value of a dollar. So I" }, { "start": 542.62, "end": 546.3, "text": " would get an allowance in Rupiah. Okay. And they would make me" }, { "start": 546.3, "end": 550.94, "text": " convert that to US dollars and see how far my money would go. And" }, { "start": 550.98, "end": 555.38, "text": " they came home one day and my mom heard this like really loud" }, { "start": 555.38, "end": 559.78, "text": " noise. And I saved up my Rupiah and I bought two Botuck" }, { "start": 559.78, "end": 564.7, "text": " parrots because this man was walking by and he had parrots. So I" }, { "start": 564.7, "end": 568.62, "text": " used all my allowance and bought these parents. And my mom had" }, { "start": 568.62, "end": 572.0600000000001, "text": " these little tiny budgery guards, what are Australian friends" }, { "start": 572.0600000000001, "end": 574.82, "text": " called them. I think they're like parakeets. Okay. She had a" }, { "start": 574.82, "end": 577.0600000000001, "text": " little atrium with all these budgery guards. And we would" }, { "start": 577.0600000000001, "end": 580.1800000000001, "text": " sit and have breakfast and look at the budgery guards. And" }, { "start": 580.4200000000001, "end": 582.74, "text": " there was a little waterfall trickle rock thing they would" }, { "start": 582.98, "end": 587.0600000000001, "text": " wash themselves in. And I released the Botuck parrots into this" }, { "start": 587.0600000000001, "end": 589.74, "text": " little atrium. And there was." }, { "start": 590.38, "end": 594.94, "text": " Devastation. Yeah. Who attacked who? Oh, the Botuck parrots" }, { "start": 594.94, "end": 598.3, "text": " they killed all the little guys. And then they started taking the" }, { "start": 598.3, "end": 604.26, "text": " atrium apart. Like pulling it up. Yeah. So when you live in" }, { "start": 604.26, "end": 608.22, "text": " tropical places, animal life is much richer and much closer. Right." }, { "start": 608.22, "end": 611.46, "text": " Because we lived in Nicaragua. We had a pet sloth for a while." }, { "start": 611.46, "end": 618.98, "text": " No. Yeah. And true story. Sloths are really strong and very" }, { "start": 618.98, "end": 623.02, "text": " slow. So we would put it in its cage at night, close the cage." }, { "start": 623.3000000000001, "end": 626.94, "text": " In the morning, we would wake up the cage bars had been pulled" }, { "start": 626.94, "end": 631.1, "text": " open. And the sloth was nowhere to be found. But my dad would" }, { "start": 631.1, "end": 634.7, "text": " go and somewhere within a 30 foot radius, he would find it." }, { "start": 634.7, "end": 639.74, "text": " It's not going away. He's trying to get away really slow. And" }, { "start": 639.74, "end": 641.98, "text": " he would take the slot and put it back in the cage and go," }, { "start": 642.34, "end": 645.7, "text": " and then that and just repeat over and over as I ground hug" }, { "start": 645.74, "end": 649.5, "text": " Dave with the sloth. But we had a monkey that came into the" }, { "start": 649.5, "end": 652.82, "text": " kitchen repeatedly and would try and eat our sugar. And we had" }, { "start": 652.82, "end": 657.0200000000001, "text": " a we had a parrot named Jose and he only said Jose." }, { "start": 657.0200000000001, "end": 664.1800000000001, "text": " So Jose. And yeah, and lizards everywhere. Chocoblock with" }, { "start": 664.1800000000001, "end": 668.98, "text": " lizards. Yeah. Yeah. I am the first time I was on David" }, { "start": 668.98, "end": 671.46, "text": " Letterman. That was like such a big deal. You know, like our" }, { "start": 671.46, "end": 675.3000000000001, "text": " show was pretty new and we haven't done a lot of talk shows. And" }, { "start": 676.3, "end": 679.5799999999999, "text": " the segment producer was like, we see you grew up in Indonesia." }, { "start": 679.5799999999999, "end": 684.18, "text": " Do you have any stories about monkeys? I said, I have one" }, { "start": 684.18, "end": 687.42, "text": " story and he's like, great, great. Dave's going to love this. So" }, { "start": 687.42, "end": 691.14, "text": " I was like, prepared the beats of my story. It was basically my" }, { "start": 691.14, "end": 694.8199999999999, "text": " friend Becky, who was from Canada, her family had a way." }, { "start": 694.8199999999999, "end": 698.9399999999999, "text": " Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't want your god damn recycle" }, { "start": 698.9399999999999, "end": 704.3399999999999, "text": " David Letterman stories on this podcast. This is not what" }, { "start": 704.98, "end": 708.14, "text": " you have to hear what he said. Okay, because we always talk" }, { "start": 708.14, "end": 710.4200000000001, "text": " about like, oh, you get your beats of a story, right? And you're" }, { "start": 710.4200000000001, "end": 715.34, "text": " prepared. Yes. So Becky from Canada, her family, they adopted a" }, { "start": 715.34, "end": 720.6600000000001, "text": " one arm given monkey. Okay. They made a big. That's a" }, { "start": 720.6600000000001, "end": 725.7800000000001, "text": " given. This is horrible. Get it? That's a given. We made that" }, { "start": 725.7800000000001, "end": 731.1800000000001, "text": " they made this enclosed atrium by by their breakfast table. It" }, { "start": 731.18, "end": 735.2199999999999, "text": " had trees. 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From then on, whenever I would go" }, { "start": 766.6600000000001, "end": 770.3000000000001, "text": " by the window, if it was really upset, it would swing by whatever" }, { "start": 770.3000000000001, "end": 773.22, "text": " upset it. But I was one of the things it would swing by and it" }, { "start": 773.22, "end": 776.74, "text": " would open its legs and it would just piss on the window. Like it" }, { "start": 776.74, "end": 779.7800000000001, "text": " would just be when you came by the monkey would piss in your general" }, { "start": 779.7800000000001, "end": 784.38, "text": " direction, swing by and piss at me. And I told that story like" }, { "start": 784.38, "end": 789.9399999999999, "text": " I'm like, read for a creed. He's gonna be like, Hey, so I told" }, { "start": 789.9399999999999, "end": 794.78, "text": " that story on Letterman, got a big laugh. And then it got it went" }, { "start": 794.78, "end": 800.7, "text": " quiet. And he goes, why do I have one arm? That was not in your" }, { "start": 800.7, "end": 804.38, "text": " prepared story, Beast. I think it's going on a power line. And" }, { "start": 804.38, "end": 808.38, "text": " the whole crowd went, and then you lost them. Then they hated you." }, { "start": 808.38, "end": 815.74, "text": " I know, I know, I know. I know. We are here at Soul Boom, you" }, { "start": 815.74, "end": 821.38, "text": " know, we're trying to dig in to deep, beautiful, exquisite," }, { "start": 821.38, "end": 825.82, "text": " wonderful, difficult, centrelating human conversations about" }, { "start": 825.82, "end": 829.98, "text": " being human being. We have so much else in common. And I want a" }, { "start": 829.98, "end": 835.62, "text": " segue to something else that we both have in common. And this" }, { "start": 835.62, "end": 840.22, "text": " is a very awkward segue. But I think it's important. Life is" }, { "start": 840.22, "end": 844.3, "text": " awkward. Life is awkward. Awkward pauses fill the office. So" }, { "start": 844.3, "end": 851.1, "text": " let's go there. We both lost our fathers. Mine was three," }, { "start": 851.14, "end": 853.34, "text": " a little over three years ago, years was nine years ago," }, { "start": 853.34, "end": 858.82, "text": " correct? Right? And how has that affected you? Because I, I find" }, { "start": 858.82, "end": 864.78, "text": " for me, like, it's the first real, deep palpable death that I've" }, { "start": 864.78, "end": 868.06, "text": " experienced. I've lost some friends along the way. But someone" }, { "start": 868.06, "end": 871.5799999999999, "text": " so primal to me. And I know my father was just so important to" }, { "start": 871.5799999999999, "end": 874.22, "text": " me growing up in your father was it's so incredibly important to" }, { "start": 874.22, "end": 878.8199999999999, "text": " you. What was that grief process like? And what is it like to" }, { "start": 878.8199999999999, "end": 880.5, "text": " day? All these years later?" }, { "start": 882.86, "end": 887.5799999999999, "text": " Well, I think the thing is, is that it just, it's just always" }, { "start": 887.5799999999999, "end": 894.06, "text": " with you. I feel like I carry my grief every day in some days. I" }, { "start": 894.3399999999999, "end": 899.18, "text": " can set it aside. But it's sneaky. You know, some days I just" }, { "start": 900.8599999999999, "end": 904.3, "text": " will be somewhere, I was in the grocery store and I saw like" }, { "start": 905.02, "end": 908.8599999999999, "text": " something he liked this cookie that he liked. I didn't even" }, { "start": 909.0999999999999, "end": 913.3, "text": " think they had him in California. And I just instantly just" }, { "start": 913.9399999999999, "end": 918.78, "text": " remembered this memory of him. And I got a little choked up, you" }, { "start": 918.78, "end": 922.8599999999999, "text": " know, in the grocery store, it's just, it's, that's how grief is." }, { "start": 922.86, "end": 926.22, "text": " It's it's always there. Yeah. It's always a part of you." }, { "start": 927.62, "end": 931.86, "text": " When he feels like a wave, doesn't it? Sometimes I experience it" }, { "start": 931.86, "end": 937.42, "text": " like just a wave. I was in my office not long ago and I was" }, { "start": 937.42, "end": 939.9, "text": " thinking about something. Maybe it was a photo like on the" }, { "start": 939.9, "end": 943.82, "text": " iPhone came up, you know, or something like something and it" }, { "start": 943.82, "end": 946.26, "text": " triggered it. And I just started to cry. And it was in my" }, { "start": 946.26, "end": 949.86, "text": " office. And then my assistant came by. It was just like, it was" }, { "start": 949.86, "end": 953.82, "text": " like an office moment. I was like, and this assistant came by" }, { "start": 953.82, "end": 959.1800000000001, "text": " with like some papers by my door saw me and was like, I was like," }, { "start": 959.1800000000001, "end": 962.78, "text": " it's okay. It's okay. I'm just grieving my dead father. Yeah." }, { "start": 962.82, "end": 965.54, "text": " It is. It's like that. And sometimes, and then a minute or" }, { "start": 965.54, "end": 970.82, "text": " two later, it was gone. Yeah. Yeah. I remember having reactions" }, { "start": 970.82, "end": 974.66, "text": " to things you don't think you'll react to or have attachments" }, { "start": 974.66, "end": 977.62, "text": " to things you didn't think you'd be attached to. My dad had" }, { "start": 977.62, "end": 982.02, "text": " helped me set up my daughter's bedroom. And I had gotten a" }, { "start": 982.02, "end": 985.22, "text": " little wooden block letters that spell out her name as a bell" }, { "start": 985.22, "end": 988.1, "text": " and he had hung them for me. You know, we had we remember we'd" }, { "start": 988.1, "end": 991.34, "text": " spent a lot of time like should it go like this or, you know," }, { "start": 991.34, "end": 996.0600000000001, "text": " like that? And he hung them for me. And we were going to have" }, { "start": 996.0600000000001, "end": 1000.42, "text": " her room painted and years later, you know, she wanted to" }, { "start": 1000.42, "end": 1004.94, "text": " older, when to update her room. And she wanted to take the" }, { "start": 1004.94, "end": 1008.94, "text": " letters off. She's a teenager now. Yeah. And I mean, out of" }, { "start": 1008.94, "end": 1016.94, "text": " nowhere, I was like, I'm like, my dad hung those. And then" }, { "start": 1016.94, "end": 1021.1, "text": " life goes on, you know, and you take the letters off and you" }, { "start": 1023.5, "end": 1027.8200000000002, "text": " but man, do I miss him? You know what I miss so much? I just" }, { "start": 1028.1000000000001, "end": 1030.42, "text": " and it totally makes me tear you whenever I think about it, but" }, { "start": 1030.42, "end": 1032.98, "text": " I miss his voice so much." }, { "start": 1035.06, "end": 1041.74, "text": " He was the person I would call he was my life anchor. But, you" }, { "start": 1041.74, "end": 1047.94, "text": " know, my mom, he had left the outgoing message on her home" }, { "start": 1047.98, "end": 1050.94, "text": " machine. They still have that big old honk and" }, { "start": 1050.94, "end": 1057.02, "text": " honk machine. Yeah. And she's never changed it. So sometimes" }, { "start": 1057.14, "end": 1064.8600000000001, "text": " when I miss him, I call and he answers the phone. Yeah. But" }, { "start": 1064.86, "end": 1068.54, "text": " I'm so thankful like at the same time, you have this grief. And" }, { "start": 1068.54, "end": 1072.1799999999998, "text": " then you have gratitude, you know, I think grief and gratitude" }, { "start": 1072.78, "end": 1078.2199999999998, "text": " really go hand in hand. If you can just appreciate what you" }, { "start": 1078.2199999999998, "end": 1083.62, "text": " had, the time you had, do we have Kleenex anywhere? Sorry." }, { "start": 1083.74, "end": 1088.02, "text": " We're going to talk about dead dads. Talk about my dad. I'm" }, { "start": 1088.02, "end": 1090.4599999999998, "text": " going to need a roll of toilet paper. Oh, you're really fine." }, { "start": 1090.4599999999998, "end": 1092.8999999999999, "text": " It's not a makeup thing. I was just wanted to make sure that" }, { "start": 1092.9, "end": 1096.5, "text": " you've had. He felt like, but don't leave that there as in the" }, { "start": 1096.5, "end": 1100.74, "text": " shot weirdo. Hey, everybody, it's me, Rain. I want to share" }, { "start": 1100.74, "end": 1103.8600000000001, "text": " something with you. I have gone through periods of my life where I" }, { "start": 1103.8600000000001, "end": 1109.14, "text": " have felt a little bit lost in the chaos and the anxiety I" }, { "start": 1109.14, "end": 1112.5, "text": " often am searching for some clarity. So I want to share something" }, { "start": 1112.5, "end": 1116.94, "text": " really special. It's an app called Waking Up. This is founded by" }, { "start": 1116.94, "end": 1119.5, "text": " the great Sam Harris. You've heard of Sam Harris. He's also a" }, { "start": 1119.5, "end": 1123.5, "text": " neuroscientist and waking up is an incredible arsenal is the" }, { "start": 1123.5, "end": 1128.14, "text": " best way to describe it of mindfulness, meditation, so many" }, { "start": 1128.14, "end": 1132.06, "text": " resources for mental health, all grounded in secular techniques." }, { "start": 1132.1, "end": 1135.62, "text": " And it has approaches baked into it that actually work. There's" }, { "start": 1135.62, "end": 1138.78, "text": " so many different tools for my spiritual toolbox. And I really" }, { "start": 1138.78, "end": 1142.3, "text": " can't recommend it more highly. Soul Boom listeners can get" }, { "start": 1142.3, "end": 1146.98, "text": " their first month for free. Plus you'll save $30 on the in app" }, { "start": 1146.98, "end": 1152.1, "text": " price. If you go to waking up.com slash soul boom, you can start" }, { "start": 1152.14, "end": 1156.18, "text": " your free month today. That's waking up.com slash soul boom to get" }, { "start": 1156.18, "end": 1160.8600000000001, "text": " a free month plus $30 off the chapter in your book where you" }, { "start": 1160.8600000000001, "end": 1165.78, "text": " wrote about your dad. And that was so powerful for me, Rain. I" }, { "start": 1165.78, "end": 1169.42, "text": " was so thankful you shared it because I think a lot of times" }, { "start": 1169.42, "end": 1176.5, "text": " in grief sometimes you can feel alone in your grief. But I just" }, { "start": 1176.5, "end": 1178.9, "text": " think when other people share about it, it can be really helpful." }, { "start": 1180.9, "end": 1185.34, "text": " That's really beautiful. I think the thing that moves me the" }, { "start": 1185.34, "end": 1191.46, "text": " most when I think about my dad and and it's something that I" }, { "start": 1191.46, "end": 1194.86, "text": " wasn't grateful for until he passed away. And that's where it" }, { "start": 1194.86, "end": 1199.26, "text": " gets a little difficult. I realized that my dad was the kind of" }, { "start": 1199.26, "end": 1203.5, "text": " guy he always made every room he went into a better place. So any" }, { "start": 1203.5, "end": 1207.46, "text": " room he went into. He would go to the story, we go to the" }, { "start": 1207.46, "end": 1210.42, "text": " coffee shop, he go to the trader Joe's, he would come to a" }, { "start": 1210.62, "end": 1214.42, "text": " a behind gathering or whatever, he would always be like, Hey," }, { "start": 1214.42, "end": 1217.62, "text": " how is everybody? How are you so nice to see you? Oh, that looks" }, { "start": 1217.62, "end": 1221.66, "text": " really nice. He's always got a compliment, a joke, something up" }, { "start": 1221.66, "end": 1225.9, "text": " lifting, he never kind of came in was like, you know, he never" }, { "start": 1225.9, "end": 1229.46, "text": " sucked energy from the room, always just like giving giving" }, { "start": 1229.46, "end": 1233.5, "text": " energy to the room. And that was his way. He did it very" }, { "start": 1233.5, "end": 1237.14, "text": " consciously to like as kind of service to bring joy and" }, { "start": 1237.14, "end": 1241.3, "text": " connection wherever he went. And it's something like when he" }, { "start": 1241.3, "end": 1245.78, "text": " passed, I was like, God, he always did that. I don't always do" }, { "start": 1245.78, "end": 1250.58, "text": " that. Sometimes it's hard to believe I can be kind of a dick." }, { "start": 1250.58, "end": 1254.98, "text": " And I realize like I want to emulate that about him. That's" }, { "start": 1254.98, "end": 1258.18, "text": " I want to be that kind of person that when I go, people would" }, { "start": 1258.18, "end": 1261.8200000000002, "text": " like uplift in a room and brighten to brighten a room and" }, { "start": 1261.8200000000002, "end": 1266.8200000000002, "text": " connect it with people. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like grief is" }, { "start": 1266.8200000000002, "end": 1269.14, "text": " something that our culture doesn't do very well as well as" }, { "start": 1269.14, "end": 1274.42, "text": " why I wanted to bring this up with you, this topic. And it's" }, { "start": 1274.42, "end": 1279.38, "text": " not something we talk about or discuss. It's death is is is" }, { "start": 1279.38, "end": 1282.02, "text": " verboten. No, it's dark. It's depressing. We can't talk" }, { "start": 1282.02, "end": 1284.98, "text": " about it. But like you say, it goes hand in hand with gratitude." }, { "start": 1285.22, "end": 1289.7, "text": " And it goes hand in hand with with life. So we appreciate life," }, { "start": 1289.7, "end": 1292.82, "text": " you know, the reason that so many Native American traditions" }, { "start": 1292.82, "end": 1295.38, "text": " would say today is a good day to die. It's because they don't" }, { "start": 1295.38, "end": 1297.78, "text": " they weren't going to go die that day. We're on the field of" }, { "start": 1297.78, "end": 1301.6200000000001, "text": " battle necessarily. They were like, I'm I'm I'm ready to die." }, { "start": 1301.6200000000001, "end": 1305.78, "text": " Have I cleaned up my messes? Am I in gratitude and thankfulness" }, { "start": 1305.78, "end": 1309.78, "text": " for this life that I have? So what have you learned about" }, { "start": 1309.78, "end": 1314.58, "text": " grief from your losses and the losses of your friends?" }, { "start": 1315.94, "end": 1321.14, "text": " Well, one of the biggest things I think I had to have" }, { "start": 1321.14, "end": 1325.46, "text": " compassion for is that everybody grieves differently. And even" }, { "start": 1325.46, "end": 1330.9, "text": " within my own family, I have three sisters. You know, we" }, { "start": 1330.9, "end": 1336.18, "text": " experience loss with a few family members and not just my" }, { "start": 1336.18, "end": 1340.5, "text": " dad, my nephew passed away as well a year after my dad." }, { "start": 1340.5, "end": 1347.06, "text": " And how I grieve and how you grieve is probably not the same." }, { "start": 1347.06, "end": 1351.14, "text": " But we have to make space for each other because everyone" }, { "start": 1351.14, "end": 1358.66, "text": " process it process it differently. And I at that time, I was very" }, { "start": 1360.66, "end": 1365.06, "text": " I was like protective of my dad's memory. Like I wanted to just like hold" }, { "start": 1365.06, "end": 1368.18, "text": " all no, this is how this is how he said that. And that's how he" }, { "start": 1368.18, "end": 1370.1, "text": " did this. And this is how and we're not going to change this." }, { "start": 1370.74, "end": 1374.74, "text": " Like I was just like holding all of this desperately. And" }, { "start": 1374.74, "end": 1379.3799999999999, "text": " and one of my sisters was more about kind of let's we can go" }, { "start": 1379.3799999999999, "end": 1382.82, "text": " through things and we can give things away. And I was like, no, no, no, wait, you" }, { "start": 1382.82, "end": 1390.26, "text": " know. And she was doing her own grieving, you know, she was" }, { "start": 1390.26, "end": 1394.58, "text": " sorting through things. And I don't know, it's it's it's taught me to" }, { "start": 1394.58, "end": 1398.98, "text": " have compassion in a way. Because there might be someone in your" }, { "start": 1398.98, "end": 1402.58, "text": " family that sits there quietly. And then the person right next to you" }, { "start": 1403.54, "end": 1408.98, "text": " is a mess. But it doesn't mean that they're not feeling a deep river of sorrow." }, { "start": 1408.98, "end": 1412.26, "text": " And some people can feel kind of stuck in their grief." }, { "start": 1412.26, "end": 1416.5, "text": " Right. Yeah. Yes. And and you I know for me, I've" }, { "start": 1418.1, "end": 1421.46, "text": " lost dear friends and like their spouses, I feel like it's a year and a half" }, { "start": 1421.46, "end": 1425.06, "text": " later and they're not moving on. And it's like, but who knows how" }, { "start": 1425.06, "end": 1428.66, "text": " it's going to take as long as it's going to take, you know, I hope people get help" }, { "start": 1428.66, "end": 1432.5800000000002, "text": " and talk it out and join a grief group and get support. And yeah, you have" }, { "start": 1432.5800000000002, "end": 1436.1000000000001, "text": " to feel the feelings to let them out. And that can be really hard. Like if you're" }, { "start": 1436.1000000000001, "end": 1439.0600000000002, "text": " if you're holding your feelings and check all the time, it's going to stay" }, { "start": 1439.0600000000002, "end": 1444.18, "text": " longer as opposed to like the only way out is through. Well, I also felt like" }, { "start": 1445.0600000000002, "end": 1449.6200000000001, "text": " my daughter was young and she kept connecting me to the now." }, { "start": 1450.3400000000001, "end": 1454.02, "text": " You know, I kept wanting to be in the past. I kept wanting to be like" }, { "start": 1454.66, "end": 1459.3799999999999, "text": " just holding onto these memories. But then she'd be like, I'm I need a snack. I'm hungry." }, { "start": 1460.74, "end": 1465.94, "text": " You know, kind of like, hey, I'm here. And I've been having a really hard time after" }, { "start": 1465.94, "end": 1472.02, "text": " his funeral. And she turned to me one day and she said, you know, Mama, it's really hard to have a sad" }, { "start": 1472.02, "end": 1480.82, "text": " mama. And I just was like, okay, it's it's perfectly normal to have emotions and to show your" }, { "start": 1480.82, "end": 1487.3799999999999, "text": " emotions to your children and and grieve. But I've got to I've got to now get on with living." }, { "start": 1487.3799999999999, "end": 1492.98, "text": " My dad would want me to do that. I have people to care for. He loved caring for people. That was his" }, { "start": 1492.98, "end": 1498.6599999999999, "text": " love language was to take care of you. You know, if we went out on the farm and it was muddy," }, { "start": 1499.3, "end": 1503.1399999999999, "text": " we mom would make us kick our shoes off by the back door. When we'd come back through the door," }, { "start": 1503.1399999999999, "end": 1508.98, "text": " they'd be spotless. He would have been out there cleaning all of our shoes. Wow. Yeah, he was just a very" }, { "start": 1508.98, "end": 1515.78, "text": " like a love by action and doing. And so I was like, it's time to get to doing things. He would have" }, { "start": 1515.78, "end": 1520.42, "text": " wanted that. You know, one of the things I wanted to talk to you about today was family. And" }, { "start": 1522.26, "end": 1528.1, "text": " because I was thinking about I come from much more of a broken family than you, like multiple" }, { "start": 1528.1, "end": 1534.82, "text": " divorces and remarriages and stuff like that. So in that sense, it's kind of a blended family that" }, { "start": 1534.82, "end": 1541.3799999999999, "text": " I currently have three step. I know I have a mom and two step moms. Okay. So, uh," }, { "start": 1542.1, "end": 1546.98, "text": " the, you know, my birth mother and then the step mom that basically raised me and then the step mom" }, { "start": 1546.98, "end": 1551.62, "text": " that was married to my dad when he passed. Right. That's a widow. And I'm close with all of them." }, { "start": 1551.62, "end": 1558.82, "text": " And it's it's interesting. Yeah. Rainhead three mothers. Um, that's your next book. That's my next book." }, { "start": 1559.78, "end": 1565.62, "text": " My three moms. That's our next sitcom. Hey, I get to be one of them. Hey, I'm a short mom. That's" }, { "start": 1565.62, "end": 1573.54, "text": " we have no way. I can't. Yeah, younger than I am. That's crazy. Um, but you, you have a, uh, uh," }, { "start": 1573.54, "end": 1578.26, "text": " I love your family so much. You have such a beautiful but blended family and so many people have" }, { "start": 1578.26, "end": 1587.54, "text": " blended families these days. What's what's that like? You know, I, I was completely done. I was done." }, { "start": 1587.54, "end": 1593.3799999999999, "text": " I was like, okay, I had a marriage. You had a marriage? You had a child. I had a child. I'm just going" }, { "start": 1593.3799999999999, "end": 1598.8999999999999, "text": " to. Yeah. This is it, you know, and, um, and I think, you know, that's obviously when life surprises" }, { "start": 1598.8999999999999, "end": 1603.1399999999999, "text": " you and you meet someone and you're like, wait, wait, I wasn't going to do this again. Um, and so I" }, { "start": 1603.1399999999999, "end": 1610.1, "text": " had my daughter. He had two sons. So it was very kind of like the Brady bunch and the kids just got" }, { "start": 1610.1, "end": 1618.1, "text": " along so well. They were just buddies and I'm so thankful for it. I feel like Isabel and I, we had," }, { "start": 1619.78, "end": 1625.9399999999998, "text": " we, you know, we had a home, but they made us a family. And it's that delightful chaos. It's" }, { "start": 1625.9399999999998, "end": 1631.3, "text": " running up and down the stairs and someone throwing the ball and, you know, like an an one of our" }, { "start": 1631.3, "end": 1636.82, "text": " mini pets freaking out and running, darting this way and someone yelling, you took my sweatshirt." }, { "start": 1636.82, "end": 1641.1399999999999, "text": " It's just it's like all of that. I think that's what I always wanted. Yeah. I wanted all of that." }, { "start": 1641.1399999999999, "end": 1646.58, "text": " The Cacophony. Yeah. A family. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm really thankful what the boys brought out of my" }, { "start": 1646.58, "end": 1653.22, "text": " daughter. Yeah. Um, she and I is very funny when we all first started to live together. Um," }, { "start": 1654.26, "end": 1660.5, "text": " you know, we would play dolls. We would color. And then, um, she was like mama, like one time she was" }, { "start": 1660.5, "end": 1667.3, "text": " like, should we wrestle? And I was like, yeah. And we were just like, you know, Josh and the boys" }, { "start": 1667.3, "end": 1673.06, "text": " move in. And, um, they play this game called Fist of Fury. They like made it up. And basically," }, { "start": 1673.06, "end": 1677.86, "text": " the boys just run at Josh. My husband is hard as they can. And as they get to him, he just picks" }, { "start": 1677.86, "end": 1682.58, "text": " him up and he throws him on the couch. And they come in and him again and he picks him up and throws" }, { "start": 1682.58, "end": 1686.34, "text": " him on the couch over and over. They love that. So when they first started playing this, as well as" }, { "start": 1686.34, "end": 1691.1399999999999, "text": " like mama, what they doing. And I was like, I don't know. I think this is wrestling. This is" }, { "start": 1691.1399999999999, "end": 1695.4599999999998, "text": " wrestling. And she was like, Josh, Josh, can I do it? Can I do it? And he was like, sure, Isabel." }, { "start": 1696.1, "end": 1700.58, "text": " And she came at him and he said, I was so scared. He was like, okay. She was like this praying" }, { "start": 1700.58, "end": 1708.02, "text": " mantis. She was like, yeah, I like, I like, I like, I like, yeah. So we had all of these ways that our" }, { "start": 1708.02, "end": 1715.4599999999998, "text": " family blended together that were so fun and surprising. And, you know, I feel like family" }, { "start": 1716.18, "end": 1722.98, "text": " is, it's a safe space. It's a place where you have shared history. And when you're a blended" }, { "start": 1722.98, "end": 1730.18, "text": " family, you're creating a new history. And, and that can be really fun. Expanding a vision of" }, { "start": 1730.18, "end": 1736.18, "text": " family, I think is really important. And that means families can be difficult. The most difficult" }, { "start": 1736.18, "end": 1740.74, "text": " challenges we face in our lives can come from family, right? Right. Because you care about them," }, { "start": 1740.74, "end": 1744.66, "text": " you're close. There's differences. The familiarity breeds contempt." }, { "start": 1745.54, "end": 1751.38, "text": " There's a lot of that going on. But we do need to kind of expand our view of family" }, { "start": 1751.38, "end": 1757.54, "text": " beyond the biological and not just to people that are like us. Yeah. But I mean, really we're a" }, { "start": 1757.54, "end": 1762.74, "text": " human family. I'm sorry to sound like a hippie, but we are seven billion of us on this sharing" }, { "start": 1762.74, "end": 1767.86, "text": " the resources of this planet. I like the hippie side of you. And it's very real. And," }, { "start": 1768.74, "end": 1776.34, "text": " and family means you will sacrifice your love, time, attention, status, and comfort for the" }, { "start": 1776.34, "end": 1781.2199999999998, "text": " well-being of others. That's what we do for our family. And we have to expand that circle," }, { "start": 1781.2199999999998, "end": 1787.3, "text": " so that we're doing that for the poor, the dispossessed, the immigrant, the, the outsider," }, { "start": 1788.26, "end": 1794.5, "text": " the unloved. And we are making an ever-expanding circle. That was beautiful." }, { "start": 1794.5, "end": 1798.98, "text": " I mean, that was beautiful. That's why I have a podcast and you don't." }, { "start": 1801.62, "end": 1804.98, "text": " Good night, everybody. That's your mic drop. The mics are too expensive." }, { "start": 1804.98, "end": 1809.54, "text": " Yeah, don't talk. Don't drop the mics. I wanted to bring up family with you as well," }, { "start": 1809.54, "end": 1813.06, "text": " because, and again, going back to this list of what we have in common, we have," }, { "start": 1813.78, "end": 1818.98, "text": " I mean, the office cast, I really feel like is a family, was a family. And..." }, { "start": 1819.06, "end": 1822.02, "text": " Jay always says office family forever. That's what he always says." }, { "start": 1822.02, "end": 1827.22, "text": " Yeah, and it's, uh, I, and people say, you know, what do you miss about the office? And," }, { "start": 1828.26, "end": 1833.22, "text": " and obviously, well, I just missed that, that office family. I mean, the, the amount of," }, { "start": 1834.18, "end": 1840.02, "text": " of love and camaraderie that we had on, on the set was, was astonishing in that little group." }, { "start": 1840.02, "end": 1844.58, "text": " And it's, it's still holding true 10 years later. Yeah. We still have a text thread." }, { "start": 1844.58, "end": 1848.02, "text": " We've got a text thread. Office peeps. Office peeps." }, { "start": 1849.06, "end": 1854.5, "text": " It's called office peeps. I don't know who started it. I know. Yeah. But we all check in." }, { "start": 1854.5, "end": 1858.74, "text": " My favorite is when out of nowhere, we get a text from Creed. Yeah." }, { "start": 1859.38, "end": 1865.14, "text": " Like, remember, he made like a little Christmas song one time when he filmed himself and he was singing." }, { "start": 1865.14, "end": 1870.9, "text": " Oh, yeah. He sent it to us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One time he sent me a picture of himself with a" }, { "start": 1870.9, "end": 1878.1000000000001, "text": " hairless cat. No, no explanation. Yeah. I always get random Creed, random Creed things. Yeah." }, { "start": 1878.1000000000001, "end": 1883.8600000000001, "text": " We, we were a family. We are a family. But the other family that's been created out of this" }, { "start": 1883.8600000000001, "end": 1890.1000000000001, "text": " are office fans too. Yeah. And that's been astonishing. I always tell this story. Like, we started" }, { "start": 1890.1000000000001, "end": 1896.5800000000002, "text": " the office. We weren't trying to like be of service to anyone or, or help us swage their mental" }, { "start": 1896.58, "end": 1903.46, "text": " health issues and their anxiety or create a community or bonds of love or, you know, a solace for" }, { "start": 1903.46, "end": 1908.5, "text": " people that, you know, they would watch episodes before they fall asleep or like Billie Eilish watch" }, { "start": 1908.5, "end": 1913.62, "text": " episodes from the moment they wake to the moment they're, yeah, they go to sleep. Like, we didn't," }, { "start": 1913.62, "end": 1919.46, "text": " we didn't really, um, we just wanted to get a paycheck and pay off student loans and, right," }, { "start": 1919.46, "end": 1924.8999999999999, "text": " maybe buy a house or just be on a TV show. Yeah. I was so excited. I bought a Honda." }, { "start": 1925.7800000000002, "end": 1931.8600000000001, "text": " Remember I had that old Chevy Blazer and we were filming booze crews and I turned right." }, { "start": 1931.8600000000001, "end": 1936.8200000000002, "text": " My front left tire went that way. Oh my gosh. I figured, remember that. Yeah. But that's," }, { "start": 1936.8200000000002, "end": 1940.98, "text": " that's what we were thinking. We're like, oh my gosh, we got a job. But what's it, especially" }, { "start": 1940.98, "end": 1945.7800000000002, "text": " for you? Because you've created yet another family with office ladies. I mean, you and Jenna met" }, { "start": 1945.7800000000002, "end": 1951.94, "text": " on the set for season became like BFFs. Yeah. And immediately and now you teased us all the time." }, { "start": 1952.02, "end": 1957.46, "text": " Yes, it did. Yeah. And how did I tease you? Yeah. Tell the audience at home. Okay. So we would walk" }, { "start": 1957.46, "end": 1961.6200000000001, "text": " and we'd be talking. And as we walk by, rain would go, click, click, click, click, click, click, click," }, { "start": 1961.6200000000001, "end": 1964.5, "text": " two little hands, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click," }, { "start": 1964.5, "end": 1971.7, "text": " God, I was such a dick. Can you tell the story about how I wouldn't say hello to the, to the crew?" }, { "start": 1972.26, "end": 1977.78, "text": " Oh, this is legend. This is rain Wilson legend. So one day we're on set." }, { "start": 1978.18, "end": 1986.26, "text": " It was like a Monday afternoon. And you had already done a lot of your like, hey, how, good" }, { "start": 1986.26, "end": 1990.1, "text": " morning. How was your weekend? Good morning. How was your weekend? And then you just turned" }, { "start": 1990.1, "end": 1994.18, "text": " everyone. It was like 11 a.m. And someone must have said to you, hey, rain, how's your weekend? And" }, { "start": 1994.18, "end": 2000.1, "text": " you're like, can we all just be done? Can we be done? Like, I'm fine on Monday morning. If you" }, { "start": 2000.1, "end": 2005.78, "text": " want to say, good morning, great, you know, but, but, and then how's your weekend? Okay. But by" }, { "start": 2005.78, "end": 2011.22, "text": " Tuesday, no, you're not, you can't ask me about my weekend anymore. I'm done. In fact, maybe we" }, { "start": 2011.22, "end": 2014.98, "text": " just say good morning on Monday. And then we don't have to say good morning the rest of the week." }, { "start": 2014.98, "end": 2023.3799999999999, "text": " You just, she just fractured and all this. And it was to the whole bullpen and everyone was like," }, { "start": 2023.94, "end": 2028.34, "text": " and the crew too. Yeah, the crew. I remember I'll never forget to look on Dale's face." }, { "start": 2028.34, "end": 2030.8999999999999, "text": " Yeah, Dale was like, we're just like, good morning, you know, like," }, { "start": 2031.7, "end": 2036.74, "text": " but here's the deal. And people don't understand this. Like, I'm a relatively private person." }, { "start": 2036.74, "end": 2041.7, "text": " I like to be social occasionally. And I'm coming in and doing my work. And when you're on a set," }, { "start": 2041.7, "end": 2045.8600000000001, "text": " there's like 50 crew members all around. There's a lot of makeup and transportation," }, { "start": 2045.8600000000001, "end": 2050.98, "text": " security and a process. It's a little over 100 people. Yeah. And there's accounting and there's," }, { "start": 2050.98, "end": 2057.38, "text": " you know, a camera department and electrics and grips. And the list goes on and on. And so you come" }, { "start": 2057.38, "end": 2063.38, "text": " in, you know, and that's morning. Hey, hey, Bobby. Good morning. Hey, good, good. Really good." }, { "start": 2063.38, "end": 2067.7000000000003, "text": " How was your week? Yeah, good. Hey, Cindy. Oh, good. Yeah, really good. And it just like goes on" }, { "start": 2067.7000000000003, "end": 2071.54, "text": " and on and on. And it's like, and then it's Tuesday morning rain. How was your evening last night?" }, { "start": 2071.54, "end": 2077.7000000000003, "text": " Which is in your just like, wait a moment. I had dinner and I watched lost and I went to sleep." }, { "start": 2077.7000000000003, "end": 2082.98, "text": " How is your Cindy? And then two steps later, hey, rain catch up. And then it's Wednesday. And" }, { "start": 2082.98, "end": 2088.58, "text": " it's like, it's like Groundhog Day all over again. It's like enough Monday morning. Yeah." }, { "start": 2088.58, "end": 2093.86, "text": " Good morning. How was your weekend? You get one day. You said you said one day where we" }, { "start": 2093.86, "end": 2099.62, "text": " exchanged pleasantries and then Tuesday through Friday. There's no more silence. And it kind of" }, { "start": 2099.62, "end": 2106.1, "text": " worked. People did kind of they backed off. They backed a little bit. I did get kind of a bad" }, { "start": 2106.1, "end": 2112.26, "text": " reputation for that. You did a little bit. So I'm sorry. But anyways, you you hit BFFs with Jenna." }, { "start": 2112.26, "end": 2114.26, "text": " That's wonderful. That's delightful." }, { "start": 2114.26, "end": 2120.5800000000004, "text": " I'm not. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Actually, you said to us." }, { "start": 2121.6200000000003, "end": 2126.1000000000004, "text": " I don't you word it. You were like, how do you have anything left to talk about?" }, { "start": 2128.9, "end": 2134.5, "text": " It's so true. But you you doing office ladies. That was call office girls." }, { "start": 2134.5, "end": 2141.0600000000004, "text": " Office ladies. You stop it. You know the name. You guys have created kind of another like" }, { "start": 2141.62, "end": 2147.06, "text": " many office. There's office lovers. There's office lady. There's office lovers who also are" }, { "start": 2147.06, "end": 2151.7, "text": " lovers of office ladies. And that's a really passionate community. Those those people." }, { "start": 2152.58, "end": 2158.5, "text": " They will die for you. They are they are so awesome. And they love the show and they love" }, { "start": 2158.5, "end": 2164.18, "text": " getting to know the cast and crew and behind the scene stories. They've just been so wonderful." }, { "start": 2164.18, "end": 2168.34, "text": " Jenna and I are humbled by it because we we get to hang out. We get to be best friends. We get to" }, { "start": 2168.34, "end": 2174.58, "text": " talk about this amazing chapter of our lives. Yeah. And now we have this community. It's we just" }, { "start": 2174.58, "end": 2180.5, "text": " feel so fortunate. And but again, going back to family, it's what a what a interesting phenomena" }, { "start": 2180.5, "end": 2184.02, "text": " it has been for me over the years. I mean, it started right away with the office. But" }, { "start": 2184.9, "end": 2190.1000000000004, "text": " especially like five years after we ended when it was at the height of like the Netflix and all" }, { "start": 2190.1000000000004, "end": 2195.1400000000003, "text": " of a sudden you just had this other wave of popularity. Yeah. And people saying how much the office" }, { "start": 2195.14, "end": 2200.02, "text": " meant to them. And you know, their parents were getting into force. They were friend and cancer" }, { "start": 2200.02, "end": 2205.8599999999997, "text": " or the struggles and difficulties. And they were, you know, they would watch the office and" }, { "start": 2205.8599999999997, "end": 2214.02, "text": " it would give them such hope and such light in their hearts. And like I said, we didn't go in" }, { "start": 2214.74, "end": 2219.06, "text": " trying to build that. But what what what has that been like for you to kind of" }, { "start": 2219.8599999999997, "end": 2224.8199999999997, "text": " realize that we were a part of something that kind of made millions of people's lives better." }, { "start": 2224.82, "end": 2230.6600000000003, "text": " Sorry to not trying to brag, but it's just true. Well, I mean, and we brought laughs a little" }, { "start": 2230.6600000000003, "end": 2234.82, "text": " laughter. A little laughter, a little escape. And we all talk about this as a cast that" }, { "start": 2237.46, "end": 2244.02, "text": " it is just wild to me. It really is. I never thought I would be part of something that big. I" }, { "start": 2244.02, "end": 2250.1800000000003, "text": " think of shows that brought my family together. You know, we don't have what's it called destination" }, { "start": 2250.18, "end": 2254.66, "text": " television anymore. Yeah. Where it's like, okay, everybody Thursday at eight o'clock. If you don't" }, { "start": 2254.66, "end": 2258.8199999999997, "text": " watch it, Thursday at eight, it's gone. It's gone. Yeah. Right. So everyone gathered around. But I" }, { "start": 2258.8199999999997, "end": 2264.5, "text": " feel like with people being able to rewatch the shows, their parents are showing the office to" }, { "start": 2264.5, "end": 2269.62, "text": " their kids. It's I have so many parents come up to me and say, you know, my kids a teenager," }, { "start": 2269.62, "end": 2273.7, "text": " we don't do that much together anymore because they kind of have their friends in their lives. But" }, { "start": 2273.7, "end": 2278.5, "text": " we watch the office together. And I know you get that too. And I love that. I love the idea that" }, { "start": 2278.5, "end": 2285.78, "text": " we're part of something that brings people together. And I mean, it's just not lost on me how rare" }, { "start": 2285.78, "end": 2291.86, "text": " that is. Here's my least favorite question. Well, whenever I do some kind of event, I always say like," }, { "start": 2291.86, "end": 2299.94, "text": " my favorite episode is the injury. And I say, why Steve Crel is wonderful to work with. My favorite" }, { "start": 2299.94, "end": 2304.9, "text": " prank is when they took my desk into the bathroom. Like I knock off like the questions that" }, { "start": 2304.9, "end": 2310.58, "text": " everyone asks. But the other question that everyone asks is like, how are you like Dwight? You" }, { "start": 2310.58, "end": 2316.58, "text": " know, and what ways are you like Dwight? And it's just so dumb. It's like just look at some videos of" }, { "start": 2316.58, "end": 2322.1, "text": " me in life having conversations and then watch Dwight and then see you can see for yourself. Like" }, { "start": 2322.1, "end": 2327.54, "text": " you can have you ever said to like an audience people dumb questions. I'm going to do next. I'm" }, { "start": 2327.54, "end": 2332.58, "text": " going to do that next time. I'm going to be like, you fucking idiot. Are you fucking kidding?" }, { "start": 2335.62, "end": 2343.54, "text": " Just watch the office and then watch an interview with me. You tell me. You tell me. I don't know." }, { "start": 2343.54, "end": 2349.3, "text": " Yeah, I'm living it from the inside. But I will. I do want to ask you this. And I forgive me because" }, { "start": 2349.3, "end": 2354.7400000000002, "text": " I know that there's an annoying factor or quotient to this question. But you grew up Christian." }, { "start": 2355.54, "end": 2363.94, "text": " Yes. And had a very kind of loving wholesome relationship with the church, with prayer." }, { "start": 2363.94, "end": 2368.5800000000004, "text": " My mom taught Sunday school. She still teaches a Tuesday ladies Bible study." }, { "start": 2368.5800000000004, "end": 2373.6200000000003, "text": " Oh, that's beautiful. And you kind of infamously, especially for the first, I don't know," }, { "start": 2373.62, "end": 2377.06, "text": " four years of the show where like the uptight Christian" }, { "start": 2377.94, "end": 2384.5, "text": " cast lady. I mean, that was literally labeled that by Roy. Yeah. So what was it like playing" }, { "start": 2384.5, "end": 2391.22, "text": " uptight Christian chick versus you having this very kind of like warm, meaningful relationship" }, { "start": 2391.22, "end": 2397.22, "text": " with your faith and your and your family? And was there, I know, obviously, we're just you're just" }, { "start": 2397.22, "end": 2402.42, "text": " playing a funny character. And that added something to the ensemble that made her kind of memorable and" }, { "start": 2402.42, "end": 2409.14, "text": " prickly and interesting. Right. But did that ever bump up against you in any way?" }, { "start": 2409.14, "end": 2415.2200000000003, "text": " Did you have any any kind of like frisolman around that? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, there were one or two" }, { "start": 2415.2200000000003, "end": 2421.14, "text": " times where there would be a joke written for her that I thought was just really stereotypical." }, { "start": 2421.14, "end": 2427.46, "text": " Maybe one note. And I like to think of her as a full like well-rounded person, you know." }, { "start": 2427.46, "end": 2432.58, "text": " I do remember there was a particular storyline between Angela and Oscar where Angela was being" }, { "start": 2432.58, "end": 2440.34, "text": " super judgy. And I never went up to Greg about any joke, but there was a joke at Oscars expense. And" }, { "start": 2441.62, "end": 2448.34, "text": " I went up to Greg and I was like, you know, I can. She sort of, I think Angela Martin invoked Jesus" }, { "start": 2448.34, "end": 2453.86, "text": " in the moment. And I just was like, I don't I don't feel good about it. I don't feel good about that." }, { "start": 2454.5, "end": 2460.5, "text": " You know, I don't feel like that's what Jesus represented to me. And he was like, okay," }, { "start": 2460.5, "end": 2466.34, "text": " and he he heard me and he he took the joke out. And the episode, it was gay witch hunt," }, { "start": 2466.34, "end": 2474.02, "text": " it had so many already. Yeah. You know. But that's the one pivotal moment I remember being like, okay," }, { "start": 2475.46, "end": 2481.1400000000003, "text": " this is feeling like a stereotype and very one note. And I feel like she has more depth than that." }, { "start": 2481.14, "end": 2486.18, "text": " I mean, spirituality is one of the topics we're going to be diving into on Soul Boom. As you know," }, { "start": 2487.3799999999997, "end": 2493.7799999999997, "text": " it's a it's a topic and an issue I feel is under discussed, under excavated people have like" }, { "start": 2493.7799999999997, "end": 2499.54, "text": " they hear spirituality like, because they either think church or they think like woo woo crystals" }, { "start": 2499.54, "end": 2505.46, "text": " and incense. Yeah. So it's it's hard to kind of unpack on a deeper level. But what is what is your" }, { "start": 2505.46, "end": 2510.1, "text": " faith mean to you? What was that like growing up with your mom? I know prayer was very important in" }, { "start": 2510.3399999999997, "end": 2517.46, "text": " your and your family. Yeah. Prayer is still important in my family. My mom gets up every morning" }, { "start": 2517.46, "end": 2524.2599999999998, "text": " and read scripture and praise and praise over her family. That's something I grew up very" }, { "start": 2526.1, "end": 2531.94, "text": " familiar with as part of my life. You know, we said grace at dinner time. We used to go" }, { "start": 2532.98, "end": 2538.42, "text": " around the table and my siblings and I my dad made up this thing that if we went like that," }, { "start": 2538.42, "end": 2544.58, "text": " we didn't have to say the grace. So you put your thumb and if you put your thumb on the table," }, { "start": 2545.14, "end": 2549.46, "text": " you didn't have to say it. So you'd be looking for the one person who wasn't paying attention, you know." }, { "start": 2550.66, "end": 2558.82, "text": " So basically you just see a bunch of kids like this. But anyway, so just prayer has always been" }, { "start": 2558.82, "end": 2564.66, "text": " there. And by the way, why do we only say grace around meals? Why do we only give thanks at" }, { "start": 2564.66, "end": 2569.8599999999997, "text": " meal time? Yeah. Yeah. I want to say grace right now. Okay. Oh, I love that. Okay. I'm going to say" }, { "start": 2569.8599999999997, "end": 2577.7799999999997, "text": " grace. Lord, we are grateful for the opportunity to have this podcast. I want to thank Mike and" }, { "start": 2577.7799999999997, "end": 2584.3399999999997, "text": " Cartic and the whole gang helping produce it. These beautiful microphones and this wonderful set" }, { "start": 2584.8199999999997, "end": 2590.18, "text": " that was created for Soul Boom. And one of my very first guests, someone of my favorite people in" }, { "start": 2590.18, "end": 2595.22, "text": " the planet, Angela Kinsey, for having this conversation, none of this could happen without the" }, { "start": 2595.22, "end": 2600.8199999999997, "text": " bounty and wonder and majesty of the universe that has brought us together in this moment to have" }, { "start": 2600.8199999999997, "end": 2607.94, "text": " this exact conversation, which I hope inspires people and ups lifts them. And I'm just so thankful" }, { "start": 2607.94, "end": 2616.5, "text": " to be a part of this whole situation. Thank you. God. Amen. I like it. First time grace has been" }, { "start": 2616.5, "end": 2623.54, "text": " said for a podcast that we know of. That's true. Right. Probably a lot of Christian podcasts" }, { "start": 2623.54, "end": 2632.1, "text": " out there. I guess that's pray rain. We pray. We start every podcast. Reach. I would say my prayer" }, { "start": 2632.1, "end": 2638.66, "text": " for you would just be that God go before you that your steps are ordered that God bless you." }, { "start": 2639.94, "end": 2644.66, "text": " And God knows your heart and you have a heart for service." }, { "start": 2646.98, "end": 2655.94, "text": " That's very sweet. Did you teach your kids to pray? I pray a lot with my daughter. I think we've" }, { "start": 2655.94, "end": 2665.22, "text": " just done that from the beginning. My husband is not as religious. But I will say a prayer over all of" }, { "start": 2665.22, "end": 2669.62, "text": " us. I'll be like, especially before we go on a big trip. I'm like, all right guys." }, { "start": 2670.58, "end": 2677.7799999999997, "text": " And it's just newer to my husband and his sons. But they know that about me. Yeah. And" }, { "start": 2679.54, "end": 2685.38, "text": " and hey, he married a Texan. He married what is that have to do? Come on. There are some people" }, { "start": 2685.38, "end": 2692.18, "text": " in Texas right now that are like no rain. No. I am. There's no atheists in Texas. Sure there are." }, { "start": 2692.18, "end": 2700.66, "text": " They're electrocuted. They are not. That's horrible. That's horrible. Yeah. But I'm definitely" }, { "start": 2700.66, "end": 2705.7799999999997, "text": " between my husband and I. I'm the more religious person. Got it. Yeah. So one of the things the" }, { "start": 2705.7799999999997, "end": 2710.4199999999996, "text": " office family has done and people talk about so much is how much what a positive impact it's made" }, { "start": 2710.4199999999996, "end": 2715.3799999999997, "text": " on their mental health. And how much it's helped their anxiety and depression and loneliness. And" }, { "start": 2715.38, "end": 2722.26, "text": " they do feel like the office cast is like their family. Have you encountered mental health struggles" }, { "start": 2722.26, "end": 2731.94, "text": " either with yourself or in your family? Well, I mean, I might my nephew that passed away a year" }, { "start": 2731.94, "end": 2741.62, "text": " after my dad. He he just we lost him to depression and he just kind of got into a dark place he" }, { "start": 2741.62, "end": 2751.22, "text": " couldn't come out of. And I think about all the things I missed, all the signs I missed, all the time." }, { "start": 2753.62, "end": 2761.14, "text": " And I I want to make sure with my kids that they feel very comfortable talking to me and especially" }, { "start": 2761.14, "end": 2768.02, "text": " with our sons just having real open dialogue and open communication and and open acceptance about" }, { "start": 2768.02, "end": 2773.86, "text": " emotions and emotions. Yes. And also about mental health. Yeah. And I and I am very thankful." }, { "start": 2775.46, "end": 2783.06, "text": " I feel like our community of parents and at the school, it's very accepting to talk about your" }, { "start": 2783.06, "end": 2789.06, "text": " mental health now. And I know that's not everywhere. But I feel like our our little nook where we live." }, { "start": 2789.06, "end": 2794.34, "text": " Yeah. People talk about it very openly. Yeah. And kids are much more open to say if they've had" }, { "start": 2794.9, "end": 2800.6600000000003, "text": " issues with anxiety or depression. And and I'm thankful for that for this generation. I hope that" }, { "start": 2800.6600000000003, "end": 2807.6200000000003, "text": " continues that level of just dialogue and and normalizing the fact that you know we all struggle" }, { "start": 2807.6200000000003, "end": 2812.7400000000002, "text": " with different things. And when you struggle with something, you want to get the tools that help" }, { "start": 2812.7400000000002, "end": 2818.6600000000003, "text": " you cope and help you deal with that. And whatever those tools are, that shouldn't be anything you're" }, { "start": 2818.66, "end": 2823.94, "text": " you should be ashamed of. If you're if you needed any kind of help with anything else, you know," }, { "start": 2823.94, "end": 2829.54, "text": " if you needed a math tutor or you know someone to help you like if you made the basketball team," }, { "start": 2829.54, "end": 2832.66, "text": " you need someone to help you work on your basketball school. But you're talking about really" }, { "start": 2832.66, "end": 2837.46, "text": " releasing that stigma around mental health that that is something you can and should get help with." }, { "start": 2837.46, "end": 2842.3399999999997, "text": " Absolutely. And that we kind of all at certain points in our lives are going to need help with. And" }, { "start": 2842.34, "end": 2847.94, "text": " by the way, for viewers listeners right there, if this is if this is triggering talking about" }, { "start": 2847.94, "end": 2851.78, "text": " suicide at all, if this is something you're thinking about, there's lots of help out there and" }, { "start": 2851.78, "end": 2861.38, "text": " we're putting a suicide text line right here, chat line phone number, reach out and get some help" }, { "start": 2861.38, "end": 2867.1400000000003, "text": " and get some counseling around it. Speaking of suicide and mental health, I think one of the biggest" }, { "start": 2867.14, "end": 2872.8199999999997, "text": " issues around it is that people feel like what they're feeling, that they're the only person" }, { "start": 2872.8199999999997, "end": 2876.3399999999997, "text": " feeling that way. Yes. And everyone is going about their they go out in the world. Everyone's" }, { "start": 2876.3399999999997, "end": 2880.18, "text": " cheery and going about their lives. You look on social media. Everyone's like looking sexy" }, { "start": 2880.18, "end": 2885.22, "text": " at the beach and looking and you know, curating their their their best and shiniest moments from" }, { "start": 2885.22, "end": 2891.62, "text": " their lives. And we have to understand and and I because I've as you know been speaking about mental" }, { "start": 2891.62, "end": 2897.62, "text": " stuff a lot recently in my own struggles and and ups and downs and people are so grateful because" }, { "start": 2897.62, "end": 2904.66, "text": " I think they're you know, to hear that oh, a celebrity wildly handsome celebrity like myself" }, { "start": 2904.66, "end": 2910.18, "text": " would be struggling, you know, with anxiety or depression, loneliness or addiction or any of" }, { "start": 2910.18, "end": 2915.22, "text": " these issues are like, oh, I can I can relate. I think that means a lot. So it's it's super important" }, { "start": 2915.22, "end": 2919.46, "text": " to reach out and get help and understand that you were you really are not alone. You might feel" }, { "start": 2919.46, "end": 2925.94, "text": " alone like you're the only person in this black pit that is feeling this way. Trust me, there are" }, { "start": 2925.94, "end": 2933.38, "text": " millions that are feeling that way. Find a way to connect and and understand that people have felt" }, { "start": 2933.38, "end": 2937.78, "text": " this way. They've gotten through it. They've gone through it and gone through to the other side" }, { "start": 2937.78, "end": 2944.18, "text": " and gotten like you said tools. Yes. To help them get out of it. Yes. I think that's so important." }, { "start": 2944.18, "end": 2950.18, "text": " I think that thing especially as we're getting older because we are rain, you're getting older," }, { "start": 2950.18, "end": 2957.7, "text": " you're getting older. We haven't done anything yet. Are we going to do stuff? No, but as we get older," }, { "start": 2958.66, "end": 2964.4199999999996, "text": " I just grow a beard over my jaw. Well, it's coming for me. I'm sure. I grow a beard. I'm going to" }, { "start": 2964.42, "end": 2976.02, "text": " grow a beard. But as we get older, I just find it so important that people understand that not" }, { "start": 2976.02, "end": 2982.02, "text": " only are they not alone, but that other people want to see them. They you know, people want to be" }, { "start": 2982.02, "end": 2988.1800000000003, "text": " seen. Yeah. But to know that people want to see them. They want to help. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking" }, { "start": 2988.98, "end": 2995.22, "text": " Arthur Brooks, happiness expert and whatnot. And he was talking about like get off your phones," }, { "start": 2996.18, "end": 3004.66, "text": " phone detox, social media detox, looking people's eyes, touch, conversation, hug, high five in the room." }, { "start": 3004.66, "end": 3012.3399999999997, "text": " It's so important to just humans thrive with dopamine and oxytocin released in the brain through" }, { "start": 3012.3399999999997, "end": 3017.3799999999997, "text": " real connection, not the connection of a heart and a like and a thumbs up on the social media," }, { "start": 3017.38, "end": 3023.06, "text": " which you are on way too much because you're constantly liking all my wife's posts." }, { "start": 3023.62, "end": 3030.5, "text": " I'm not on it that much, but I love your wife's posts. I love first of all, she's just so" }, { "start": 3031.38, "end": 3038.82, "text": " cool. She's just she's really cool and she's smart and she's funny and she travels and is well" }, { "start": 3038.82, "end": 3046.26, "text": " read and she's a great writer and I just I just dig her. And now she's doing kung fu. She's studying" }, { "start": 3046.7400000000002, "end": 3051.78, "text": " kung fu. She can totally she's practices with a sword in the driveway. She's gonna kick your" }, { "start": 3051.78, "end": 3057.3, "text": " ass out of the aid. She's gonna drive with a sword. She's she's she's she's gonna totally kick your ass." }, { "start": 3057.3, "end": 3066.1800000000003, "text": " Crouching tiger kill dragon kill bill. Crouching tiger kill bill. You idiot. You idiot." }, { "start": 3066.1800000000003, "end": 3070.82, "text": " Rain by the way always calls my children. Hey, idiots. They love it. Yeah. They can't get enough of it." }, { "start": 3070.82, "end": 3074.1800000000003, "text": " Yeah. Like what's up, idiots are like right. Rain, 20." }, { "start": 3075.78, "end": 3081.06, "text": " They are a little slow. They are not. It's okay. It's okay to be you stop it." }, { "start": 3082.82, "end": 3087.94, "text": " What about the old therapy? You've been you've been on therapy rodeo. Um you can you can talk to" }, { "start": 3087.94, "end": 3095.38, "text": " me if you ever need someone to talk to. Really? Yeah. 325 an hour. 325 dollars. My therapist is 350." }, { "start": 3095.38, "end": 3104.1800000000003, "text": " I'm giving you like a 10% discount. I'd be a great therapist. Only it'll be pretty weird. People" }, { "start": 3104.1800000000003, "end": 3111.46, "text": " will be like, oh my you guys right to white is my therapist. No, dude. My friends saw went to a" }, { "start": 3111.46, "end": 3118.98, "text": " therapist and he's like my therapist used to be the drummer for Devo. No. Yeah. Come on. I'm serious." }, { "start": 3118.98, "end": 3126.7400000000002, "text": " Crack that whip. That guy is a therapist apparently. No. If I'm getting the instrument right," }, { "start": 3126.7400000000002, "end": 3131.78, "text": " it made him in the bassist. I don't know. But um but someone from Devo is a therapist." }, { "start": 3131.78, "end": 3135.22, "text": " I would totally go be a therapist, but that would be really weird for people to be like," }, { "start": 3136.1, "end": 3142.02, "text": " dude, why is my therapist? Also, he doesn't like to say good morning and he won't say hi to me" }, { "start": 3142.02, "end": 3145.86, "text": " when I come. I'm not aware about my weekend. He doesn't really read about my life. And he has a" }, { "start": 3145.86, "end": 3150.26, "text": " pet monkey with one arm call back. This is called calling back. She comes from the world of improv." }, { "start": 3150.26, "end": 3158.82, "text": " I do. I do. What do you think? Uh Dwight and Angela's family looks like speaking of family a little" }, { "start": 3158.82, "end": 3164.82, "text": " fill up. Like how many kids do we have at this point? 10 years later? What is going on at shrewt farms" }, { "start": 3164.82, "end": 3169.06, "text": " with us? I know everyone asks this question. Yeah. What do you think? Let's figure this out. I mean," }, { "start": 3169.06, "end": 3174.26, "text": " listen, they started having kids a little later in life. How many kids do we have? I feel like" }, { "start": 3174.26, "end": 3179.94, "text": " they've got like five at least minimum minimum. Yeah. Because they need. He just put her to work" }, { "start": 3179.94, "end": 3185.6200000000003, "text": " to breed and so they need people to work the farm. Yeah. Yes. Straight up straight up free labor," }, { "start": 3185.6200000000003, "end": 3191.7000000000003, "text": " free labor. Um, I like to think that would be a great montage. It's like seven kids all working the" }, { "start": 3191.7000000000003, "end": 3196.98, "text": " farm. Like the one year old is I don't know like kicking something. Yeah. Yeah. The two year old is" }, { "start": 3196.98, "end": 3202.42, "text": " this and the three year old is breaking. Yeah. Five year old is driving a tractor. You know," }, { "start": 3202.42, "end": 3210.98, "text": " it just goes on and on. Um, I think, uh, I mean, I think they're happy. I do. Yeah. Um, I feel like" }, { "start": 3210.98, "end": 3219.94, "text": " Dwight is still running the business center at the business park and um, I feel like Angela runs the farm." }, { "start": 3220.82, "end": 3225.38, "text": " I do. Yeah. I think Dwight doesn't work as a paper salesman or doesn't have a flint anymore," }, { "start": 3225.38, "end": 3230.1800000000003, "text": " but I think the landlord kind of thing. That's what I think. Maybe he owns half of scranton. I feel like" }, { "start": 3230.18, "end": 3235.14, "text": " he's bought up things. He keeps seeing like, like, so he owns the business park and he's bought. Maybe" }, { "start": 3235.14, "end": 3239.46, "text": " he probably owns the sign that says electric city. They have to charge him when they turn it on. I" }, { "start": 3239.46, "end": 3246.1, "text": " think he probably, uh, started like, I bought like the laser tag in Poryam and some stuff like that or" }, { "start": 3246.1, "end": 3253.46, "text": " like, uh, he's got paintball range. You know what? I bet there's shrewt escape rooms. Oh my god." }, { "start": 3253.46, "end": 3259.54, "text": " There's a shrewt escape room. Shrewt escape rooms. Yes. Mose works there. Mose works at the escape" }, { "start": 3259.54, "end": 3266.2599999999998, "text": " room dressed in his fear thing. Yes. Sive. Exactly. Blood coming out of this. And it. Yeah." }, { "start": 3266.2599999999998, "end": 3271.46, "text": " And what if they're escape rooms that are unsolvable? Exactly. Exactly." }, { "start": 3272.18, "end": 3278.98, "text": " There's like, then they end up on a true crime podcast. Oh my god. Uh, maybe Angela has a true" }, { "start": 3278.98, "end": 3285.3, "text": " crime podcast trying to solve the murder of La Kauana County or something. I don't know." }, { "start": 3285.38, "end": 3288.6600000000003, "text": " This Grant and Strangler. He has a Grant Strangler podcast. That's it." }, { "start": 3289.86, "end": 3295.46, "text": " Toby hosts it. Oh my god. That's perfect. And he keeps having guests on that all think he's the" }, { "start": 3295.46, "end": 3301.86, "text": " Strangler. Like, isn't that a little bit convenient? Yeah. Exactly. Toby Flinderson is" }, { "start": 3302.6600000000003, "end": 3309.46, "text": " I think Dwight and Angela homeschool. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Maybe the higher someone from the office" }, { "start": 3309.46, "end": 3317.38, "text": " creed to teach the children. Dwight would hire a creed. He's cheap. He's five bucks an hour. He's" }, { "start": 3317.38, "end": 3321.62, "text": " available. And he gives him a shed to live in. Yeah. Exactly. And he'll teach the kid. All right," }, { "start": 3321.62, "end": 3327.54, "text": " kids. Yeah. And hey, we're going to learn about the Ramones. He's like, God is guitar." }, { "start": 3328.82, "end": 3333.2200000000003, "text": " I like to think of it though. It makes me happy. When people ask me, what do you think Dwight and Angela" }, { "start": 3333.2200000000003, "end": 3338.58, "text": " are up to? Because I mean, I know you get that question. I don't know. That one always makes me happy." }, { "start": 3338.58, "end": 3342.98, "text": " Angela Kinsey, thanks for coming on SoulBoom. Thanks for having me. I love you so much." }, { "start": 3342.98, "end": 3348.1, "text": " Do we do it all? Do we get your list? No, but this is great. All right, buddy. I love you. I love you too." }, { "start": 3349.7799999999997, "end": 3351.62, "text": " Thanks for watching, listening, whatever." }, { "start": 3356.2599999999998, "end": 3361.38, "text": " So I want to answer some fan questions. Okay. They have an email address. Hello at SoulBoom.com." }, { "start": 3361.38, "end": 3366.1, "text": " I saw your thing. You did a call to action. Angela is going to be here. So then your questions. That's" }, { "start": 3367.06, "end": 3372.98, "text": " the SoulBoom podcast. Subscribe now on YouTube. Spotify. Apple podcasts. Wherever else you" }, { "start": 3372.98, "end": 3375.54, "text": " get your stupid podcasts." } ]