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        "text": " Welcome back. I'm Keith Barry. I'm Jake Fisher. I'm Gabe Schener. And we bought a"
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        "text": " cyber truck. We did. We bought a Tesla cyber truck. How crazy is that? We ordered it in December"
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        "end": 31.880000000000003,
        "text": " of 2019. You bet. And it just arrived. Well, we had to go pick it up. And we'll talk about that later."
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        "text": " It's a it's a 2024 Tesla cyber truck all-wheel drive foundation series. 600 horsepower. It's the"
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        "text": " dual motor. One speed direct drive all-wheel drive. The MSRP and it was about $80,000, but it came with"
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        "text": " the foundation series. And in addition to getting a cool Isaac Asimov reference on the side,"
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        "text": " on the badging, it also comes with full self-driving and a couple other accessories. And that cost $20,000."
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        "text": " Essentially, it lets you cut the line and get one of the first. Yeah, that's the only version you"
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        "text": " can get now. And the foundation is basically like in another case would be like first edition. Exactly. Like"
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        "text": " Kenny Rogers. But we're here $102,000 basically is how much this thing costs. You know, there's a lot"
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        "text": " to talk about. A lot has already been said about the cyber truck. A lot of those things are things"
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        "text": " that we don't cover here are consumer reports. But I think it's important to address the elephant in"
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        "text": " the room, kind of write off and then move on and talk about things otherwise. Is a controversial"
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        "text": " vehicle I've heard. I've heard that people have some opinions about this. Yeah, there could be"
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        "text": " some of that. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because this is a vehicle that obviously stands out"
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        "text": " a lot. I mean, generally, it's like you could get a Lamborghini or something. It's totally going"
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        "text": " to stand out. This is the first time like a truck. I mean, I suppose you could lift the truck"
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        "text": " really high and that will stand out too. But from the factory, this thing obviously doesn't look"
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        "text": " like anything else on the road. And I think because of that and also because, you know, I don't"
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        "text": " think there's any vehicle that that indelibly bears the fingerprints of its creator more than this"
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        "start": 140.6,
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        "text": " one. And it's not just because of the stainless steel. But I mean, this is Elon Musk's vehicle."
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        "text": " And a lot of people surprisingly have opinions about Elon Musk, which is interesting. And I think"
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        "text": " what's important about this in terms of the driving perspective, some of those people think he's"
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        "text": " a visionary truth teller. Some of them think that he's a conspiracy theorist and a bigot. And both of"
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        "text": " those types of people are going to talk to you when you interact with you, when you drive this car,"
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        "text": " I found well, I mean, I think it's I mean, look, part of it obviously is Elon Musk who is"
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        "text": " controversial. You know, but obviously he has accomplished a whole lot. But it's than that. It's"
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        "text": " also electric. There's controversy about electric. Exactly. It's a giant truck. There's controversy"
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        "text": " about that. So basically it's kind of like, look, it's big. It's loud. It's different. And if you"
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        "text": " are the type of person who just wants to go to the supermarket and go back home and not talk to a"
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        "text": " group of people who have many varied opinions, probably not the vehicle for you. Yeah. I mean,"
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        "text": " I got many, many digits pointed at me. And you can get switch ones. They were thumbs up, thumbs down."
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        "text": " It was actually super cool to see like little kids pointing at it the way that I would have pointed"
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        "text": " it like a kuntosh when I was a kid or like, you know, someone seeing something cool out there."
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        "text": " And also at the same time, I've been covering Tesla almost my entire career. And the last thing"
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        "text": " that I want to do is talk about Elon Musk with strangers. And that's what this car, you know,"
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        "text": " I come out of Costco and there are people around it taking photos. And I go and hide behind"
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        "text": " the Subaru Park next to it until they leave. So, so I mean, yeah. Yeah. The reactions varied."
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        "text": " And from anywhere, from total disdain to appreciation. I mean, mostly disdain. But, but I mean,"
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        "text": " this thing is just the most outlandish otherworldly creation. I mean, you see it and a lot of people just"
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        "text": " don't believe like what they're looking at. I mean, what is this thing? I mean, how did it even get"
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        "text": " here? So, I mean, there's such a befuddlement about this car that you haven't seen anything like that."
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        "text": " Honestly, I think that that's and you know what? I mean, like it or not, I mean, it's there's like"
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        "text": " they say, there's no bad press. I mean, it gets attention. Yeah, we're talking about it right now."
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        "text": " I mean, honestly, I think one of the best things about this car is the fact that it is so unique."
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        "text": " And it's so unique in a lot of ways. I wish that more car companies honestly would do and we've"
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        "text": " seen a little from Kia from Hyundai doing some things with their electric platforms making them"
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        "text": " really, you know, not boxed in to the design constraints. Yep. And I wish more car companies"
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        "text": " to do something like this. At the same time, there's also a lot of really unique things about the"
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        "text": " vehicle. And that's why we're just we're going to we're going to test it like any other vehicle."
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        "text": " That's the last we're going to talk about Elon Musk. That's the last we're going to talk about any"
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        "text": " of that. So let me, I mean, you're exactly right. I mean, look, we test vehicles, right? We do not"
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        "text": " test styling. No, there's no, now we have this rubric and how we, you know, assess vehicles. We're"
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        "text": " looking to reliability. We're looking at safety and how it drives. We do not put into the styling."
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        "text": " The styling is not part of any. You're right. There's a lot of cars that look really good these days"
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    {
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        "text": " and there's some of their little frumpy. But it's not in the ratings. But we do talk about"
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        "text": " driving experience. And this is one vehicle that you can't escape that part of the driving experience."
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        "text": " You have to be an extrovert. Yeah. And we evaluate the consequences of styling in terms of"
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        "text": " functionality such as visibility or access. Yeah, which is important or such as whether you can"
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    {
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        "text": " injure yourself on the sharp sides of the panels. But I'm kind of getting ahead of myself here."
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        "text": " So I mean, let's I think we should just sort of start from the beginning here. Gabe, you you picked"
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        "text": " this up and the Tesla delivery experience for those who haven't bought one in a while or ever."
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        "text": " I remember the days when it was like special. Tesla would show up in your and you know, it was"
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        "text": " this big deal. And then there were the delivery centers where you go and it felt like, you know,"
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        "text": " it felt it felt special. It felt like, you know, and you were in boarding group one. And now it"
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    {
        "start": 390.44,
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        "text": " doesn't didn't feel like that, right? Right. Boarding group six. Okay. Everyone else. Yeah. Okay,"
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        "text": " check your bag. Ten years ago, our model S was delivered here right here. It was like beautiful."
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        "text": " Then we went to some Tesla centers and picked up model threes and wise and then whatnot."
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        "text": " In this case, I mean, it was awful. I mean, you come in even though you have a specific"
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        "text": " in front of a makeshift table. It looks like a neighborhood liminates, liminates stand."
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        "text": " And you are handed then a pile of paper. You're sent to a bench somewhere to sign them."
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        "text": " And given that, you know, they were all wrong and I had to like change everything there."
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        "text": " That's besides the point. But yeah, I mean, the the contempt for the customer is unreal. I mean,"
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        "text": " and I chatted with other people there. It was the same kind of experience. Well,"
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        "text": " long. I mean, not everyone is going to pick up their cyber truck at the exact same location"
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        "text": " that we purchased yet in on the East Coast. Obviously. So, I mean, your mileage will vary."
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        "text": " I sincerely hope there are much better delivery centers elsewhere in the country, but our"
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        "text": " experience wasn't great. Right. Yeah. And also, you know, to get something out of the way,"
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        "text": " when we picked up the car, there was a nice big error message already on it. And we were told"
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        "text": " perfectly fine, perfectly fine, drive the car, nothing wrong with it. Now, to be fair,"
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        "text": " we're not going to put this thing into our full testing regimen until we get that error message"
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        "text": " taken away. Right. And that's due with the steering. Right. It said that there was a steering"
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        "text": " alignment issue. And the first person we talked with the service center said, totally fine. We checked"
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        "text": " it out. It's you're good to go. No problem. Ignore it will be gone with the software update."
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        "text": " Then we call Tesla and they say, well, that shouldn't be there. So, we're, you know, we put all of our"
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        "text": " cars on the alignment rack. We make sure they're all all aligned before we test them. We're not going"
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        "text": " to test a car with an error message. But just putting that out there that, you know, a little bit of"
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    {
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        "text": " half-bakedness here. You know, so the driving experience when you get in this car, it's, I like in it"
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        "text": " to, you know, if anyone's ever been to another country where they drive on the other side of the road,"
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        "text": " and you pick up your rental car and you're driving out of the airport and you're like, wait, where,"
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        "text": " where am I? And Jake, you can maybe explain why that is. Well, you said a couple of reasons, right?"
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        "text": " I mean, it's a couple of reasons. I mean, certainly seems very different, right? I mean, you look at"
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        "text": " the, you know, glass areas, very, very different. You guys have windshield that's like a plane"
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        "text": " last, but it's huge. You have quite a panoramic view out, but, you know, to your point, like,"
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        "text": " getting into a different planet or a different, something I'm not used to, honestly, if you came"
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        "text": " out of another Tesla, in many ways, you can feel right at home. So, I mean, first of all, the"
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        "text": " Yeah, just download those podcasts and listen to when you learn more about that. Right. But I mean,"
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        "text": " obviously, you know, there's, you know, this is very similar controls. You can either love it or"
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        "text": " you get to hate it. There's certainly learning curve. But I think maybe the most interesting part is"
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        "text": " heavy. It doesn't drive that way. So when you drive around, like, kind of every day with it,"
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        "text": " because that reverse spots of this has come tons of power. So I mean, just it's almost, I don't know,"
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        "text": " if nimble is too much for it, but it's like the steering is responsive. It's certainly got a lot of"
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        "text": " of like a big model three. Yeah, it's so many people have said about it. It would driven it. Yeah."
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        "text": " Yeah, let me just build up on that a little bit. I mean, the steering ratio is so unheard of"
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        "text": " lock to lock here. It's like, it's almost like a race car. So it makes the car feel really nimble"
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        "text": " at high speed, but the ratio is very, very variable. So depending on all kinds of speed and all."
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        "text": " So it gives you a response that's not always predictable. So it's in like normal urban suburban"
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        "text": " type speeds, you really find yourself really getting too much turn in response. And so it makes it"
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        "text": " really easy to clip a corner or worse, you know, take out your neighbor's mailbox."
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        "text": " So you're end up on social media. Someone is filming you parallel part. I mean, I've seen like"
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        "text": " tons of these videos. You're always big. No, yeah. But it's the, it's a flip side of that"
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        "text": " nimbleness is that it's not very predictable. So it doesn't give you the confidence you want."
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        "text": " You always have to check yourself. You always have to correct something. So for those who don't"
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        "text": " know, just want to cut in and say this, this vehicle is the first to come out with with a pure"
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        "text": " steer by wire system. So Jake, if you want to explain that, I just want to kind of like break that"
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        "text": " apart. Right. This is a little bit of a, the steering is kind of Dr. John a little and Mr."
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        "text": " Mr. I had because you, or, or it's like a box of chocolates. You don't really know what you're"
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        "text": " going to get because it is a steer by wire. First, my first experience with a steer by wire"
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        "text": " without a redundant physical connection. I know it's an accident. He had one with a, you know,"
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        "text": " but it's like it's, it's variable ratio to the max, right? So, so when you're driving just"
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        "text": " normally down the road, I still, it is very, very good. It feels nimble. There's like a mile"
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        "text": " there. The issue is when you start kind of turning more, you know, in kind of like parking lot"
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        "text": " very quickly because like, exactly like you said, the entire turning doesn't go very far. So what"
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        "text": " had there's rear wheel steering? And there's a variable that is, yes, it's, it's,"
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        "text": " it's, it's, it's, it's, so the issue is that you might get used to this. You're driving down the"
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        "text": " if that's ours or if that's, but particularly when the rear steer is on, you hear all kinds of"
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    {
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    {
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        "text": " this reliability, you know, and you probably've heard, you may hear more about what other people say"
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        "text": " that's problem-free or we have a lot of problems with it, it all has to do with the survey. So every"
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        "text": " are actually fairly reliable. We, we're recommending them. In fact, the Tesla Model Y is a top pick"
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        "text": " right now. So those are vehicles are quite good. The issue is, is that the higher trim vehicles,"
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        "text": " the Tesla Model S, the Tesla Model X, they continue to have more problems. Again, that's from a lot"
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        "text": " of people telling us what they have found with their vehicles. It isn't us having issues with the"
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        "text": " no way. No, no, no. It's hundreds of other people having it. And what's interesting about it too,"
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        "text": " is that those S and those X owners, they tell us they actually like their cars and they would buy"
    },
    {
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        "text": " them again and they're happy with them. Despite the problem. But they are having those problems. So,"
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        "text": " so me look on a vehicle like this, you're probably not buying it because you think it's going to be"
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        "text": " the most trouble-free vehicle. There's probably other reasons that that you might be interested in. I"
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        "text": " don't think anyone's sitting at home waiting for the issue with consumer reports to show up to say,"
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    {
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        "text": " should I buy the side truck? I'm not reliable. Yeah, I want to find out what consumer reports things."
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    {
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        "text": " 80,000 miles out of it. Yeah. But I would say, again, to the point, here you've got kind of a"
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        "text": " to take anyone's job. But what are we going to do with this vehicle that's unique to consumer"
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        "text": " reports? Maybe you can talk us through some of our testing process because I imagine some folks"
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        "text": " aren't necessarily frequent, frequent viewers or frequent listeners who are listening to this"
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        "text": " Thanks for all the info in your in the October, 2024 issue of your magazine regarding the safest car."
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        "text": " Only puzzlement for me was the total absence of Subaru models in the list given and then past articles."
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        "text": " little bit of a longer episode, a little bit of a unique episode. Hopefully you learned something"
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