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        "text": " Hi everybody, welcome to another episode, I'm Mike Monticello."
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        "end": 15.6,
        "text": " I'm Emily Thomas."
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        "text": " And I'm Steve Oick."
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        "text": " So today we're going to be focused on the redesigned 2024 Chevrolet Traverse."
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        "text": " These are going to be our first impressions and these impressions are based on a model"
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        "text": " that we bought for anonymously from a local dealer as we do with every vehicle that goes"
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        "text": " to our test program."
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        "text": " So this one will be going through our test program for those that don't know what the"
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        "text": " Traverse is."
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        "text": " It's a three row mid-sized SUV slots between the Equinox and the large Otaho and Chevy's"
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        "text": " SUV lineup."
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        "text": " And just for background on the Traverse, it was a solid competitor."
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        "text": " You know, one of those SUVs is it's great at doing really good things, but you know, it's"
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    {
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        "text": " not like a wonderful vehicle to drive, but it's just a really good all around family SUV."
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        "start": 58.76,
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        "text": " Nothing stood out about it being bad, nothing stood out about it like it wasn't like an"
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        "text": " amazing handler or anything like that, but just a really good SUV."
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        "text": " And as such, it ranked typically, you know, toward the upper reaches of the category"
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        "text": " in our ratings."
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        "text": " For 2024, it gets new exterior styling, a new infotainment screen, but the biggest changes"
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        "text": " under the hood."
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    {
        "start": 78.6,
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        "text": " So the V6 is gone."
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        "text": " You can't get that anymore."
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        "text": " The only engine is a turbocharged four-cylinder, and we're going to have a lot to say about"
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    {
        "start": 86.56,
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        "text": " that through our discussion."
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        "start": 88.64,
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        "text": " So we bought a 2024 Chevrolet Traverse LT All-Wheel Drive."
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        "text": " The LT is the second tier trim."
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        "text": " So it has a 328 horsepower 2.5 liter turbocharged four-cylinder."
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        "text": " It's a bit automatic transmission."
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        "text": " We got the optional All-Wheel Drive."
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        "text": " It comes standard with front-wheel drive."
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        "text": " And along with a few options, including the enhanced driving package, which brings GM's"
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        "text": " supercruise, enhanced reactive driving assistance system, plus the $1,395 destination fee"
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        "text": " that Chevy charges on ultra-versus."
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        "text": " Total cost of a test vehicle is $49,460."
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        "text": " So three-row mid-size SUV, family vehicle."
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    {
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        "text": " I can't think of two people more qualified to talk about a vehicle like this."
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        "text": " They're here at ATC at the Auto Test Center because you both have young families."
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        "text": " I would think this would be a vehicle that would be certainly the target audience, I"
    },
    {
        "start": 141.96,
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        "text": " think."
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        "start": 142.96,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " But even though it would make sense to talk about second-third-row room, maybe cargo space,"
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    {
        "start": 150.76,
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        "text": " maybe how the child seats fit, we're going to start with the engine because I think it"
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    {
        "start": 154.6,
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        "text": " could be a deal breaker for some people."
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        "start": 156.68,
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        "text": " And I'm going to start with a quote from Alex Nizek, who is one of our engineers here"
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        "text": " at the Auto Test Center."
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        "text": " And this is what he had to say about the new turbocharged four-cylinder."
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        "text": " He said, the engine is so loud, especially anything above 2,500 to 3,000 RPM, it presents"
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        "text": " as a tiny engine screaming and reverberating inside of a giant echo chamber."
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        "text": " The vehicle is generally quite otherwise, and thankfully the engine settles into the"
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    {
        "start": 179.44,
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        "text": " background when cruising."
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    {
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        "text": " So that's not exactly high praise, I would say."
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    {
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        "text": " Maybe he missed his calling."
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        "text": " If you look at the logbook comments, we keep log digital logbook on all of our test"
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    {
        "start": 191.76,
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        "text": " vehicles."
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    {
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        "text": " There's a lot of people kind of, in a sense, echo not to use upon, but what Alex said,"
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    {
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        "text": " but not everyone."
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        "text": " And I want to start with you, Steve."
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        "text": " What did you think about this new engine?"
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        "text": " And yeah, I just like kind of, especially thinking about how good the previous V6 was."
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        "text": " Yeah, I think it replaces the V6 quite well, actually."
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        "text": " It really has pretty good power."
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        "text": " It has no turbo lag, which you may expect from having a four-cylinder turbo."
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    {
        "start": 220.88,
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        "text": " The transmission shifts nice and smoothly, and I mean, it has this linear power delivery."
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        "text": " I think the engine itself and the transmission it's made it to is pretty good."
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        "text": " It's executed pretty well."
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    {
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        "text": " Other than the sound that a lot of people mentioned, I also took something out of the digital"
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    {
        "start": 238.84,
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        "text": " logbook."
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    {
        "start": 239.84,
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        "text": " Mike Quincy said it sounds like a metal box filled with rocks."
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    {
        "start": 243.07999999999998,
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        "text": " So that's not good, right?"
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    {
        "start": 244.8,
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        "text": " It's not great, but I didn't think it was as bad as some other four-cylinder turbo larger"
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    {
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        "text": " SUVs out there."
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        "start": 252.12,
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        "text": " This is kind of common that they're this loud when they have such a small engine and such"
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    {
        "start": 256.56,
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        "text": " a large vehicle."
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    {
        "start": 258.08,
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        "text": " Yeah, for me, it really didn't bother me as much."
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        "start": 262.36,
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        "text": " I was kind of surprised when I went into the logbook and I saw just how passionately people"
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        "text": " felt about the noise."
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    {
        "start": 267.84000000000003,
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        "text": " Yeah, we're a passionate group here."
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        "start": 269.56,
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        "text": " You are a passionate group."
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    {
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        "text": " I guess we are a passionate group."
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        "text": " But I, like, hearing that feedback, I went and drove it again and realized that, okay,"
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    {
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        "text": " that's like when it's accelerating, it's a little noisy."
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    {
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        "text": " I'll give it that."
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    {
        "start": 283.2,
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        "text": " But once you kind of get into your trip, it dies down and it's fairly comfortable."
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        "text": " It didn't stand out to me throughout the course of my drive."
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        "text": " And I had taken it home, so I'm driving on the highway, right?"
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    {
        "start": 298.96,
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        "text": " Joe and I did a little field trip together, so we were doing all the back roads down"
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    {
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        "text": " to the shoreline and stuff."
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        "text": " It was fairly comfortable."
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    {
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        "text": " It was easy enough to handle."
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    {
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        "text": " It drove smoothly."
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    {
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        "text": " The noise wasn't a huge factor for me, so I was kind of surprised when I finally went"
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    {
        "start": 319.68,
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        "text": " to go put my notes in and I was like, oh, people have a lot to say about the noise."
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    {
        "start": 323.4,
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        "text": " Yeah, I mean, they really have."
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    {
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        "text": " And I think one of the things, because it is kind of noisy, it's kind of gravely, it's"
    },
    {
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        "text": " just not a pleasant sound."
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    {
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        "text": " You can make a turbo four that sounds pleasant, right?"
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    {
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        "text": " This one is not one of those."
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    {
        "start": 334.36,
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        "text": " And I think that actually led some people to think, man, this thing is really underpowered,"
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    {
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        "text": " but it actually has more power than the V6 did before."
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    {
        "start": 342.2,
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        "text": " It sounds like it's working really hard."
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        "text": " Exactly."
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        "text": " It sounds like it's working really hard."
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    {
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        "text": " I think Steve's right."
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    {
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        "text": " I think it actually works well."
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        "text": " It operates well in terms of the reasonably smooth shifts and that it does have the power"
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    {
        "start": 355.36,
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        "text": " there when you need it."
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    {
        "start": 356.36,
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        "text": " It's there, but it's just going to make a fair amount of racket to get it."
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    {
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        "text": " So it wants you to know that it's present."
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        "text": " Yeah, I mean, I found it kind of gravely and kind of obnoxious."
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        "text": " I don't like it."
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        "text": " I don't like this engine, but that's just me."
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        "text": " But how often are you also, like in a given trip, how often are you having to really"
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    {
        "start": 379.68,
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        "text": " like push the line?"
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    {
        "start": 381.4,
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        "text": " Right."
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    {
        "start": 382.4,
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        "text": " So once you're pushing the engine, like, I mean, you don't have to flirt though, because"
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        "text": " so it doesn't have, I mean, basically any time during normal acceleration, you're probably"
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        "text": " going to get over 3,000 RPM."
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        "text": " And once you get reached 3,000 RPM, that's around the time that it starts to get really"
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        "start": 398.04,
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        "text": " noisy and noticeable."
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        "text": " So around town, if you're half throttle or more, you're definitely going to notice it"
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    {
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        "text": " all those situations."
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    {
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        "text": " Once you're on the highway, yeah, or you're cruising on a regularly two lane road and"
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        "text": " like you said, you're up to speed."
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        "text": " I think it's fine."
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        "text": " It's not like it's a terrible engine."
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    {
        "start": 414.88,
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        "text": " It's just not a good sounding engine."
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    {
        "start": 416.88,
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        "text": " Do you know what I mean?"
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    {
        "start": 418.04,
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        "text": " So that's, but you know, I think the Atlas was louder and had a worse sound."
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    {
        "start": 421.88,
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        "text": " And personally, but you know, yeah, this is the new trend."
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    {
        "start": 427.44,
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        "text": " Of course, of the new trend."
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    {
        "start": 429.24,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " And some people doing better than others."
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        "text": " It's a little bit of a bummer in some ways, but you know, you can understand why they"
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        "text": " would want to do it."
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    {
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        "text": " Typically, it's for fuel economy, but although that we have seen that that doesn't always"
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        "start": 440.64,
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        "text": " work out either."
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    {
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        "text": " Well, I think this is another case of, you know, we see this in the car seat world, right,"
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    {
        "start": 447.92,
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        "text": " which is a good chunk of my world, where just because you have a feature, right, just"
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    {
        "start": 454.0,
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        "text": " because you have this turbo four cylinder, right, doesn't necessarily make it automatically"
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    {
        "start": 457.88,
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        "text": " good."
    },
    {
        "start": 458.88,
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        "text": " Right."
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    {
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        "text": " How it's implemented, how it's tuned really matters and can vary greatly, right, between"
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        "text": " manufacturers and sometimes even within a manufacturer."
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        "text": " So it is important to really like, when you, if you're considering the new traverse,"
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    {
        "start": 475.36,
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        "text": " like it for a solid test drive, like really tried out in the different scenarios that"
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        "text": " are most common to your typical, like driving and see how that feels for you and take into"
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        "start": 486.92,
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        "text": " account these different things, right, like for me personally, like I do a ton of highway"
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        "text": " driving."
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    {
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        "text": " So this might not bother me as much."
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        "text": " But if that's not your norm and you are, as you're saying, having to like accelerate"
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    {
        "start": 498.92,
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        "text": " frequently, it would probably get a bunch of words really going to bother you during"
    },
    {
        "start": 504.2,
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        "text": " your day to day driving."
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    {
        "start": 505.88,
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        "text": " And I think the, maybe, you know, obviously it's a really good idea to take a test drive."
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    {
        "start": 511.84,
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        "text": " This is a vehicle you really need to take a test drive."
    },
    {
        "start": 514.24,
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        "text": " You need to make sure you're okay with that engine sound."
    },
    {
        "start": 516.28,
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        "text": " If you're okay with it, it operates fine."
    },
    {
        "start": 518.4,
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        "text": " It operates really well, but you got to make sure you're okay with that."
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    {
        "start": 521.2,
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        "text": " No, just as an example, my girlfriend was like, you know, why is this thing so loud,"
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    {
        "start": 525.56,
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        "text": " you know, and she was talking about the engine, you know, so anyway, but enough about the"
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    {
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        "text": " engine."
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    {
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        "text": " So how did it, you were, you were starting to talk about the way it drove in terms of"
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        "text": " the ride and the handling."
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        "text": " Do you think it has a pretty nice mix, something that you'd be comfortable with?"
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " So, you know, when we first started talking about the car, I didn't have a lot to say because"
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        "text": " I felt like it was just kind of middle of the road."
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    {
        "start": 548.32,
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        "text": " You know, there was nothing terribly exciting about it, but there was nothing that stood"
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        "text": " out to me."
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        "text": " I was like, oh my gosh, this is god awful."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " For sure."
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        "text": " control of the vehicle, which is good because it's a large vehicle."
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        "text": " It is."
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        "text": " Like the traverse is, it's big."
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        "text": " There was a few that were a little bit more like pronounce."
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        "text": " First of all, it's a nice balance between the two, right?"
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        "text": " Like it actually does pretty well for, as you said, how big of a vehicle it is."
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        "text": " like our handling course, the emergency handling, especially, right?"
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        "text": " would be that like, sure, you're in this big tank kind of vehicle, right?"
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        "text": " It'll protect you in a crash because you just have physics in your favor, your larger,"
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        "text": " your bigger than everybody else."
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        "text": " But if you need to avoid a crash, a vehicle that size might be difficult, right?"
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        "text": " That's where it is."
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        "text": " It might not shine."
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    {
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " And so in our braking testing, in our emergency handling testing, like how is this vehicle"
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        "text": " going to perform and is it going to be able to do justice so that like you do feel like"
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        "text": " you can safely avoid a crash in those emergency kind of situations without losing control of"
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        "text": " So I'm curious how that's going to play out."
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        "text": " But in the day to day, I think it was, that you was fine."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Let's move into the interior and let's start talking about the things that people are,"
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        "text": " Second and third seat room."
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        "text": " What did you think about the second row in terms of comfort space, those kinds of things"
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        "text": " So I have a forward facing seat and a rear facing seat."
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        "text": " And they fit in the captain's chairs perfectly."
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        "text": " I do."
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        "text": " So others might feel different like me."
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        "text": " It hit me in the back of my thighs where I was like, I would have to flex my legs or"
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        "text": " It's not."
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        "text": " And it's one of the better ones actually though in terms of the cushion is a little bit"
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        "text": " So you don't have as uncomfortable of that with your knees way up in here."
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        "text": " Like a lot of SUVs in this category has a hard plastic outer armor, which is kind of"
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        "text": " But as far as these size vehicles, it's actually one of the better ones like you said though."
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        "text": " Still, most adults aren't going to be back there for a very long, you know, couple"
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        "text": " of wise."
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        "text": " If you're going to be transporting adults, get the Tahoe."
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        "text": " I think it's fine for kids in this third row, but there are bigger options if you're"
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        "text": " chairs that have a little bit more comfort to them."
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        "text": " Because it is easy enough to access that third row to strap them in."
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        "text": " Well, yeah, that's a good point."
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        "text": " Now which way are you talking about access in the third row?"
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        "text": " Because you can do it one of two ways."
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        "text": " When you have captain's chairs, you can just go in between."
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        "text": " You know, there's enough space to go in between, which is what I actually prefer to do."
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        "text": " You have to duck a fair amount to get back in there, but at least you don't have to move"
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        "text": " the seat."
    },
    {
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        "text": " And the seat isn't quite as easy as some."
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        "text": " I mean, it's reasonably easy, but you're using a lever on top of the seat back."
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        "text": " It's not like some of the competitors, you can just press the button."
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        "text": " Yeah, it just automatically slides until it's forward on its own."
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        "text": " You have to do the work."
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        "text": " You have to do the work."
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        "text": " You have to do the work."
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        "text": " Force it a little bit."
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        "text": " Yeah, not a big deal."
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        "text": " Still works fine."
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        "text": " But it's just not quite as easy."
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        "text": " So not terrible."
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        "text": " Right?"
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        "text": " The other thing that I like about third row here, which this past summer, my father-in-law"
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        "text": " And so I was like, okay, you could turn them still."
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        "text": " They also just weren't fixed, right?"
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        "text": " You would be able to turn them towards you and adjust the airflow and basically just have"
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        "text": " It's whether or not I will feel like I'm going to pass out."
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        "text": " Right."
    },
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        "text": " Now let's talk about the driver seat."
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        "text": " I didn't find it that great."
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        "text": " I'm curious what you guys thought."
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        "text": " I find that there's like too much built in lumbar support, which I'm not a person."
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        "text": " Is that sounds like they were green here?"
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        "text": " I don't usually use much lumbar support anyway."
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        "text": " But every time I got in I'm trying to turn, I'm like, who turned it up?"
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        "text": " And I'm like, well, how was the last one in it?"
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        "text": " Why did that?"
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        "text": " Why would I have turned it up on myself?"
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        "text": " So I'm always trying to do that."
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        "text": " And you know, a lot of support's okay."
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        "text": " It's not great."
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        "text": " But it's just, it's not like a really comfortable seat."
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        "text": " And the front passenger seat is all manual controls."
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        "text": " And it seems like you should have some power controls there."
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        "text": " But Steve, you're kind of on board with me on the driver seat."
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        "text": " It's just not that great."
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        "text": " 100% agree with you."
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        "text": " We mentioned deal breakers earlier."
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        "text": " And also you should test drive every car."
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        "text": " This is the reason why you should test drive this."
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        "text": " This version's trim."
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        "text": " This trim was not great."
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        "text": " I found the same thing you did."
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        "text": " I don't use lumbar support."
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    },
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        "text": " So I turn it off."
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        "text": " And this one you can't."
    },
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        "text": " It's just there pushing you."
    },
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        "text": " Because we're all different body types."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " It was amazing."
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        "text": " Oh, for sure."
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        "text": " I actually didn't mind the seat."
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        "text": " I, you know, I can get into a good driving position."
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        "text": " I was able to adjust it enough as I needed to."
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        "text": " And again, we did our little field trips."
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        "text": " We were in it for several hours."
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        "text": " So again, to your point, though, that's why you really should be test driving the seat"
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        "text": " and I feel like when we do test drives, you know, it can be time to just be like, OK,"
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        "text": " just a quick little thing."
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        "text": " Like if they give you 20 minutes, take the full 20 minutes, right?"
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        "text": " Like you need to make sure that you're really settling into the seat and, you know, doing"
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        "text": " the different adjustments and stuff that you need to do so that you can see if it's sustainable"
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        "text": " for you."
    },
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        "text": " Exactly."
    },
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        "text": " Because this was something I noticed when I got on the car."
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        "text": " I said, OK, I'll give it a chance."
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        "text": " I'll see what happens, you know, 20 minutes down the road."
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        "start": 1288.8,
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        "text": " Well, 20 minutes down the road for me, it still wasn't working."
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        "text": " But in other for other people, maybe it, you know, you get used to it and it's OK."
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        "text": " Right."
    },
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        "text": " And it's kind of a bummer in a sense just because like the driving position, which is a"
    },
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        "text": " big thing for me, I thought worked pretty well."
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    {
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        "text": " Right."
    },
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        "text": " When you look at, there's lots of headroom."
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        "text": " I don't have there's no no center console intrusion with your right knee, which is always"
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        "text": " a big thing."
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        "text": " And I'm not saying let's have rectangular steering wheels."
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        "text": " But we're having, you know, information cut out at the top."
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        "text": " That's not happening here."
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        "text": " And it's super annoying."
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        "text": " And so it was, it was working."
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        "text": " I could actually rest my arms on something."
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        "text": " OK, so we can't do, you know, first impressions on a vehicle here at Consumer Reports without"
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        "text": " talking about controls."
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        "text": " Some highs and lows, Emily, what do you think?"
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        "text": " I'm OK with where like the screen is."
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        "text": " It didn't feel too far away from me."
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        "text": " But I think I also kind of just naturally lean forward a little bit as I drive."
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        "text": " So maybe that just kind of helped to make up the difference."
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        "text": " now exist?"
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        "text": " And then Joe showed me where they were and I was like, I would never find this unless"
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        "text": " somebody showed it to me because I don't naturally grip the steering wheel in that way or feel"
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        "text": " for them behind."
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        "text": " And it's been a while."
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        "start": 1447.6799999999998,
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        "text": " Yeah, you just have to get used to it."
    },
    {
        "start": 1449.08,
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        "text": " Yeah, so I got into a showy to find what I love having."
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        "text": " I know you loved it."
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        "start": 1452.2,
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        "text": " I would read your name and I was like, what do you mean you love it?"
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        "text": " Why should they be back there?"
    },
    {
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        "text": " Clearly very different appearance."
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        "text": " It's really hard to label those."
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        "text": " I think that's the problem."
    },
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        "start": 1461.2,
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        "text": " Do you know what I mean?"
    },
    {
        "start": 1462.2,
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        "text": " It's really hard to label something that's on."
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        "text": " You know what I mean?"
    },
    {
        "start": 1464.2,
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        "text": " It's on the back as well."
    },
    {
        "start": 1465.2,
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        "text": " You can't label it."
    },
    {
        "start": 1466.2,
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        "text": " Exactly."
    },
    {
        "start": 1467.2,
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        "text": " Maybe that's my issue."
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        "text": " There's nothing that tells me to look back at."
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        "text": " You know what they need?"
    },
    {
        "start": 1470.2,
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        "text": " They need arrows."
    },
    {
        "start": 1471.2,
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        "text": " So you're holding the steering wheel and the buttons are like here."
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    {
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        "text": " So you need an arrow here that's saying like, wrap around."
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        "text": " Like track skip here and it's saying it's like starting to wrap around."
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        "text": " I don't know."
    },
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        "text": " I'm just trying to help Chevy out here."
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        "text": " Or maybe they just move it to the front."
    },
    {
        "start": 1485.68,
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        "text": " Yeah, but it just frees up room for other controls."
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        "text": " That's why I think that's why they do."
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        "text": " Like the three cruise control ones."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " I can't explain everything."
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        "text": " Mike Dennis annoyance was the emergency flashes button on the O'Ready console."
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        "text": " It's dangerous, right?"
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        "text": " Because you should be able to access that quickly."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " You know, see it easily."
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        "text": " It should be a big button."
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        "text": " It should be a big red button like right here that you can just press for any time."
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        "text": " You need to warn people behind you quickly should be able to find it."
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        "text": " Shouldn't be up here on the overhead console."
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        "text": " People don't look there."
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        "start": 1531.32,
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        "text": " like that's like the last place I'm looking to find where, where something is, especially"
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        "text": " something that you are going to be using frequently."
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        "start": 1538.48,
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        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 1539.48,
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        "text": " Luckily most Americans don't use their emergency flashes for emergency situations."
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        "start": 1543.52,
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        "text": " And I'm saying that, you know, facetiously, they should be, but they don't."
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        "text": " It's out of the way."
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        "start": 1550.96,
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        "text": " No one's going to use them anyway, but they should be using them."
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        "text": " If you go to Europe, that's how they drive."
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        "text": " jammed up ahead, they're all throwing on their emergency flashes because that's the way"
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        "text": " they were taught how to drive because you're trying, it's, you're trying to help people"
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        "text": " behind you."
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        "start": 1566.56,
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        "text": " You're also trying to help yourself to not get, you know, rear-ended, but you're really"
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    {
        "start": 1569.0,
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        "text": " trying to just, you know, it's for the good everyone else."
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        "start": 1571.56,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 1572.56,
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        "text": " So it should be in an easy location."
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        "start": 1573.56,
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        "text": " I feel like Steve, you have something you want to say."
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        "start": 1575.08,
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        "text": " Well, it's not related."
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        "start": 1576.08,
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        "text": " I mean, I agree with pretty much everything you both have said about the controls."
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        "text": " for a while, that like climate controls shouldn't be in the screen."
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        "start": 1587.56,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 1588.56,
        "end": 1589.56,
        "text": " Well, they are."
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    {
        "start": 1589.56,
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        "text": " Right."
    },
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        "start": 1590.56,
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        "text": " And that's okay."
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        "text": " Like the knob, it's a different knob than the volume knob, which is a little bit higher"
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        "text": " up."
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        "text": " So it's over here on the driver's left dash, right?"
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        "text": " So and it's kind of out of the way."
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        "text": " You're pressing this button."
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        "text": " It's, you're pressing this button that's way over here."
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        "text": " The steering wheel."
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        "text": " So in my grand search for the volume, right?"
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        "text": " I basically pushed everything on this steering wheel because I guess the volume knob was"
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        "text": " Exactly."
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        "text": " And that was awesome."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " the system and include occupant sensing because that's going to account for a lot more"
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        "text": " situations."
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        "start": 1965.96,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " That's great."
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    {
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        "text": " Thank you for that."
    },
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        "start": 1968.96,
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        "text": " Thank you for that."
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        "text": " And I hope people enjoyed that kind of little tutorial on what those two systems are"
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        "text": " because I think a lot of people don't know what they are especially because there's automakers"
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        "text": " use different terminology."
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        "start": 1980.24,
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        "text": " Different terms."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " So it's confusing."
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        "text": " And then you can fuse your seat reminder with rear belt reminder."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " That's easy to do."
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        "text": " So thank you for that."
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        "text": " We help clear that up on our vehicle model pages."
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        "text": " So if you go into our range and specs, you can see under the rear seat safety section, it'll"
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        "text": " tell you exactly whether or not your car has an end of trip reminder."
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        "text": " Great."
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        "text": " Fantastic."
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        "text": " Steve, I want to talk real quick about we mentioned early on about GM's super cruise,"
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        "text": " which is was optional on this vehicle."
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        "text": " And we got it on ours."
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        "text": " It has been a very high scoring active driving assistance system, which if people don't"
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        "text": " know that's basically it's a system that gives the driver the ability to simultaneously"
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        "text": " use adaptive cruise control lean centering assistance."
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        "text": " And super cruise has done very well in our testing."
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        "text": " Now we haven't tested this one yet in this vehicle, but what are your early impressions?"
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        "text": " I think I've driven super cruise before and in other cars that we've had."
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        "text": " Like I am not even one that usually uses these active driving assists."
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        "text": " It's amazing."
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        "text": " And I liked it for myself and I think every car should have this."
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        "text": " This is, it's great now."
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        "text": " But I'm curious to see what the experts will have to say about it."
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        "text": " You know, that's just my opinion."
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        "text": " Yep."
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        "text": " I have a counterpoint."
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        "text": " Uh-oh."
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        "text": " Oh, sorry."
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        "text": " Let's keep it friendly."
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        "text": " So it was, it didn't always be super confident."
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        "text": " But again, to your point, we're going to have the team that goes and test it out here"
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        "text": " on our A-desk loop."
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        "text": " And so we'll have a better, more formal sense of how it's doing."
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        "text": " I didn't get into a situation like that."
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        "text": " There wasn't a lot of traffic when I used it."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Maybe they will someday."
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        "text": " Maybe they won't."
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        "text": " But it really drives home the point though that even if you are using these types of"
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        "text": " systems, you still need to pay attention."
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        "text": " And this super crew system does make you do that."
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        "text": " That's what's the great things about it is that you have to be, your eyes have to be"
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        "text": " looking down the road or the system will stop, you know, providing its assist."
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        "text": " families, usually kids, it seems like they have a lot of stuff."
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        "text": " I just have like one backpack."
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        "text": " I'm good."
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        "text": " I'm serious."
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        "text": " And your collection of bikes."
    },
    {
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        "text": " Not they don't always come with me."
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        "text": " Throughout the cabin, there's nice, like in cabin storage also."
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        "text": " I can keep take out things I want to hide from my children."
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        "text": " I keep it under there because they get into the center console."
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        "text": " area."
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        "text": " the head restraint, I find it's a great place to like,"
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        "text": " it and do, it's not just like flying around as a projectile."
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    },
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        "text": " fold down that third row, right?"
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        "text": " You've got like tons of great flat storage, which is awesome."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " And I set it better myself."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " There's like a nice little cubby where I could put the keys, the phone, everything else."
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        "text": " So it doesn't occupy my cup holder."
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        "text": " Small item storage is very important."
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        "text": " Yes."
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        "text": " We have lots of, we carry lots of little things these days from our phones, wallets, keys,"
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        "text": " everything, key fob, you know, because there's no more key holder anymore in the steering"
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    },
    {
        "start": 2324.08,
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        "text": " Oh, yeah."
    },
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        "text": " It's a cool holder."
    },
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        "start": 2326.08,
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        "text": " I mean, it's an ignition switch, but you know, they're gone."
    },
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 2329.08,
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        "text": " It's all pushed."
    },
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        "text": " Maybe we'll go full circle and have like a cubby there to put your key."
    },
    {
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
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        "text": " Anyway, so let's say you were in the market for a three-row mid-size SUV."
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        "text": " Would the traverse be on your shopping list?"
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        "text": " And if it wasn't maybe you're the one you would go with, what would you go with instead?"
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        "text": " I'm going to Steve, I'm going to start with you."
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        "text": " Okay."
    },
    {
        "start": 2352.2400000000002,
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        "text": " I, so this isn't even hypothetical because you're doing it."
    },
    {
        "start": 2357.0,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 2358.0,
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        "text": " My wife did get a mid-size SUV and it is what we would buy."
    },
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        "text": " I would probably get a Volvo XC90 instead of this."
    },
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        "text": " And I know you're going to say there's a difference in price."
    },
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        "start": 2367.76,
        "end": 2368.76,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " It's a luxury SUV."
    },
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        "text": " But the price is only a couple thousand dollars different."
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        "text": " Not to mention if you lease it, Volvo has really good lease rates, which actually make"
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        "text": " the lease rates are lower than for this traverse."
    },
    {
        "start": 2381.44,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " But the reason I would go with it is because there's just a nicer fit and finish."
    },
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        "text": " It has a nicer, more luxurious feel to it."
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        "text": " We don't really use the third row that much just in a pinch."
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        "text": " Okay."
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        "text": " Right?"
    },
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        "text": " And then the first like one, two, two, three shifts are a little bit bumpy."
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        "text": " It's got this kind of hunkered down stance to it that gives it a sporty feel."
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        "text": " It's like a little mini love water."
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        "text": " It's tiny."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " But not that everything's perfect."
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        "text": " It's got that goofy, the sum of the controls are odd."
    },
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        "text": " It's got that goofy upside down L-shaped gear selector, which we all hate."
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        "text": " No vehicle is perfect."
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        "text": " And it's not."
    },
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        "text": " But anyway."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " We..."
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    {
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        "text": " So check that out at consumerports.org."
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        "text": " We will be sending it through our full road test program."
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    {
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    },
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        "text": " And that's written up."
    },
    {
        "start": 2595.44,
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        "text": " And with that, let's move on to..."
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        "text": " Audience questions."
    },
    {
        "start": 2598.92,
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        "text": " And the best way to reach us to send us those questions is cr.org slash talking cars."
    },
    {
        "start": 2604.16,
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        "text": " And we started a new thing where if we choose your question, we will send you out some"
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        "text": " CR swag."
    },
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        "text": " So, you know, maybe a t-shirt hat."
    },
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        "text": " I don't know."
    },
    {
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        "text": " Whatever they have lying around."
    },
    {
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        "text": " But I bet it's pretty nice."
    },
    {
        "start": 2617.96,
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        "text": " It is pretty nice."
    },
    {
        "start": 2618.96,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 2619.96,
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        "text": " Maybe I'll send in a question."
    },
    {
        "start": 2620.96,
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        "text": " Okay."
    },
    {
        "start": 2621.96,
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        "text": " So, do we still do video questions, Dave?"
    },
    {
        "start": 2624.52,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "start": 2625.52,
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        "text": " We can send those in too."
    },
    {
        "start": 2626.56,
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        "text": " So, our producer says we can still do video questions as well."
    },
    {
        "start": 2629.32,
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        "text": " So, we really like those 30 second clips when you do like put a little effort into it,"
    },
    {
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        "text": " like a nice background, you know, maybe your car."
    },
    {
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        "text": " Well, I'm serious."
    },
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        "text": " We've gotten some really nice videos where people are really trying hard."
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        "start": 2640.64,
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        "text": " And that's going to get you..."
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        "text": " The swag."
    },
    {
        "start": 2643.16,
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        "text": " Exactly."
    },
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        "start": 2644.16,
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        "text": " And Monte wants also."
    },
    {
        "start": 2645.16,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 2646.16,
        "end": 2647.16,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "start": 2647.16,
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        "text": " I'm going to make one of these videos."
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        "start": 2648.16,
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        "text": " All right."
    },
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        "text": " Trust me."
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        "start": 2650.16,
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        "text": " All right."
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        "text": " So, our first question comes from James from Tampa, Florida."
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        "text": " James says, during Hurricane Helene, there were reports of Tesla's catching fire due to"
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        "text": " flooding in the Tampa area."
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        "text": " The local fire chief warned people not to drive any electric vehicle that had been flooded"
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        "text": " Is this a Tesla-only problem?"
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        "text": " Are all EV susceptible to this?"
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        "start": 2669.16,
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        "text": " Are hybrid cars with lithium-ion batteries subject to this problem?"
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        "text": " So, Steve, I'm going to throw this to you."
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        "text": " What did you find out about this?"
    },
    {
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " I talked to Big John and our amazing auto tech team about this."
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        "text": " And I asked, what do they think about flooded cars like this?"
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        "text": " Well, I found out it's not a Tesla-only problem."
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        "text": " It's actually the potential for flooding the battery packs is there for all high voltage"
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        "text": " batteries."
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        "text": " That includes hybrids, plug-in hybrids, and EVs."
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        "text": " And really, the issue is when there's water intrusion into the battery case, and the"
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        "text": " And it really conducts electricity, and that's when it starts to cause problems and light"
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    },
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        "text": " I mean, cars don't like water."
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        "text": " So even if you have an internal combustion engine, there could be a lot of other issues"
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        "text": " with wiring harnesses and electronics in the car that are no good."
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    },
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        "text": " won't dry everything out, and there could still be problems down the line."
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        "text": " So this is a huge issue, and yes, for battery packs, it is a fire risk."
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        "text": " whether it's how to avoid buying a flood damage car or the dangers of driving on flooded"
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        "text": " streets."
    },
    {
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        "text": " We have a lot of stories up on www.couseraborce.org about that."
    },
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        "text": " So please check that out."
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        "text": " is there a specific way that is recommended to break in a hybrid engine?"
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        "text": " for a few thousand miles, but I didn't know if that applied to hybrids as well."
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        "text": " But the number one thing is always look at your owner's main, your vehicle owner's main,"
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        "text": " or that's the number one place to go."
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        "text": " I will say they're not quite as easy to find as they used to be."
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        "text": " You used to make a lot more obvious in the contents or whatever of where to find that."
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        "text": " manufacturers do that anymore."
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        "text": " Volvo, for instance, doesn't even have a, they don't even list a breaking procedure anymore."
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        "text": " And also, that's partly because modern engines, and Steve, I think you can speak to this as"
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    {
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        "text": " one of our data analysts people, is that they're just simply more robust than they used"
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        "text": " So there isn't quite as much of a detailed breaking procedure as they used to be."
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        "text": " Big John, our chief mechanic here says that there are still things you should follow,"
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        "text": " just as a general rule, don't push the engine too hard for the first 500 to 1000 miles."
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        "text": " Don't maintain a constant speed."
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        "start": 2869.68,
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        "text": " Engine speed for too long, try to vary it during that initial driving."
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        "text": " And just for fun, I went out and looked at a couple of hybrids, actually one hybrid"
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        "text": " in our fleet and a plug-in hybrid."
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    {
        "start": 2879.56,
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        "text": " And the Kia Carnival hybrid says for the first 600 miles, don't race the engine, which"
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        "start": 2884.12,
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        "text": " means basically don't push it hard, okay?"
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        "start": 2886.7999999999997,
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        "text": " And avoid hard stops to allow the brakes to seat properly."
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    {
        "start": 2889.3199999999997,
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        "text": " So that's pretty easy stuff."
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    {
        "start": 2890.92,
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        "text": " You should be able to do that, and you should do that with any new vehicle, really."
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    {
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        "end": 2900.96,
        "text": " The Lexus NX-450H Plus PHEV, so it's a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle."
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        "text": " The little more specific for the first 200 miles of void sudden stops, again, that's for"
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        "text": " the brakes, okay?"
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        "text": " For the first 1000 miles, do not drive extremely high speeds."
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        "start": 2912.12,
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        "text": " I mean, that's kind of a little obvious, but you're probably getting a ticket if you're"
    },
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        "start": 2915.2000000000003,
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        "text": " doing that, but anyway, avoid sudden acceleration."
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        "start": 2917.32,
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        "text": " That's one of the really important ones, right?"
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        "text": " Do not drive continuously in low gears, and do not drive again at a constant speed for"
    },
    {
        "start": 2925.4,
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        "text": " extended periods."
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    {
        "start": 2926.4,
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        "text": " So you're just trying to vary your engine speed as much as you can without being hard on"
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    {
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        "text": " it."
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    {
        "start": 2932.04,
        "end": 2934.36,
        "text": " And for the first 500 miles, don't tow a trailer."
    },
    {
        "start": 2934.36,
        "end": 2937.36,
        "text": " So that's a lot of advice."
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    {
        "start": 2937.36,
        "end": 2939.7200000000003,
        "text": " Remember, always check the owner's manual first."
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    {
        "start": 2939.7200000000003,
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        "text": " Yes."
    },
    {
        "start": 2940.72,
        "end": 2943.8399999999997,
        "text": " That's a good question, though, for the plug-in hybrid, what if you keep plugging that"
    },
    {
        "start": 2943.8399999999997,
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        "text": " in and keep driving in 30 minutes spurts of electric power, or 30 miles at a time, and"
    },
    {
        "start": 2949.7599999999998,
        "end": 2954.0,
        "text": " it's all electric, and how do you keep track of when you're breaking in the internal combustion"
    },
    {
        "start": 2954.0,
        "end": 2955.0,
        "text": " motor part of it?"
    },
    {
        "start": 2955.0,
        "end": 2957.0,
        "text": " Yeah, it's a really good question."
    },
    {
        "start": 2957.0,
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        "text": " Well, say close to it."
    },
    {
        "start": 2959.2799999999997,
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        "text": " Research that one next."
    },
    {
        "start": 2961.2799999999997,
        "end": 2966.64,
        "text": " Well, yeah, I mean, the engine's going to come on anyway at times, so it will come on."
    },
    {
        "start": 2966.64,
        "end": 2973.0,
        "text": " But yeah, I guess the main thing is just don't push it hard for those early, in that"
    },
    {
        "start": 2973.0,
        "end": 2977.2,
        "text": " case, probably it could be a couple of miles and miles, you know, but you do want to,"
    },
    {
        "start": 2977.2,
        "end": 2980.64,
        "text": " but again, luckily, they are built pretty robust, so you don't have to worry about it as"
    },
    {
        "start": 2980.64,
        "end": 2981.64,
        "text": " much as used to."
    },
    {
        "start": 2981.64,
        "end": 2982.64,
        "text": " All right."
    },
    {
        "start": 2982.64,
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        "text": " I think that's going to do it for this episode."
    },
    {
        "start": 2984.8399999999997,
        "end": 2988.48,
        "text": " If you want to learn more about cars and the topics that we talked about, you can click"
    },
    {
        "start": 2988.48,
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        "text": " on the links in the show notes."
    },
    {
        "start": 2990.2799999999997,
        "end": 2994.8399999999997,
        "text": " And if you have a question, don't forget to visit cr.org slash talking cars."
    },
    {
        "start": 2994.8399999999997,
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        "text": " Thanks so much for watching."
    },
    {
        "start": 2996.16,
        "end": 2997.16,
        "text": " We'll see you all next time."
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