diff --git "a/Transcipts_base/Evil Genius with Russell Kane.json" "b/Transcipts_base/Evil Genius with Russell Kane.json" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/Transcipts_base/Evil Genius with Russell Kane.json" @@ -0,0 +1,4367 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 2.0, + "text": " This is the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 17.28, + "end": 19.68, + "text": " Hello and welcome to Podcasting House." + }, + { + "start": 19.68, + "end": 22.48, + "text": " And if you're with us for the first time, you're especially welcome." + }, + { + "start": 22.48, + "end": 24.32, + "text": " And this is what you need to know." + }, + { + "start": 24.32, + "end": 26.88, + "text": " We choose a couple of podcasts for you every week." + }, + { + "start": 26.88, + "end": 30.56, + "text": " And they're all from the BBC's huge, great library of podcasts." + }, + { + "start": 30.56, + "end": 33.76, + "text": " And then if you like it, well, you can find it and subscribe wherever you" + }, + { + "start": 33.76, + "end": 36.48, + "text": " subscribe to your podcasts. I am Rian." + }, + { + "start": 36.48, + "end": 38.08, + "text": " And with me, I have Eli." + }, + { + "start": 38.08, + "end": 38.76, + "text": " Hello." + }, + { + "start": 38.76, + "end": 41.2, + "text": " Eli, what have you been listening to this week?" + }, + { + "start": 41.2, + "end": 44.72, + "text": " Today, we're listening to episode one of Evil Genius." + }, + { + "start": 44.72, + "end": 45.36, + "text": " Sounds good." + }, + { + "start": 45.36, + "end": 46.480000000000004, + "text": " With Russell Cain." + }, + { + "start": 46.480000000000004, + "end": 50.4, + "text": " It's a podcast about brilliant bastards in history." + }, + { + "start": 50.4, + "end": 53.599999999999994, + "text": " People who contributed something special to the world," + }, + { + "start": 53.6, + "end": 57.68, + "text": " but whose private lives undercut their brilliance through" + }, + { + "start": 57.68, + "end": 61.84, + "text": " spitefulness, abuse, or just plain vanilla." + }, + { + "start": 61.84, + "end": 63.120000000000005, + "text": " So it's a new show." + }, + { + "start": 63.120000000000005, + "end": 64.96000000000001, + "text": " Episode one is about John Lennon." + }, + { + "start": 64.96000000000001, + "end": 66.72, + "text": " This is Evil Genius with Russell Cain." + }, + { + "start": 70.72, + "end": 71.52000000000001, + "text": " Genius." + }, + { + "start": 71.52000000000001, + "end": 71.92, + "text": " Genius." + }, + { + "start": 71.92, + "end": 72.48, + "text": " Genius." + }, + { + "start": 73.36, + "end": 77.04, + "text": " Hello. Welcome to Evil Genius, the BBC podcast where we take legendary" + }, + { + "start": 77.04, + "end": 80.96000000000001, + "text": " achievers from history and ask, were they actually any good?" + }, + { + "start": 80.96, + "end": 83.83999999999999, + "text": " I'm talking stellar figures who were also rather rowgish." + }, + { + "start": 83.83999999999999, + "end": 86.63999999999999, + "text": " Icoms who were sometimes bang out of order." + }, + { + "start": 86.63999999999999, + "end": 89.91999999999999, + "text": " Sometimes even revealing lovely stuff about people you thought were vile." + }, + { + "start": 89.91999999999999, + "end": 91.67999999999999, + "text": " Make your own list in your head, people." + }, + { + "start": 91.67999999999999, + "end": 93.19999999999999, + "text": " Can you still respect a vision?" + }, + { + "start": 93.19999999999999, + "end": 96.24, + "text": " Revere the art or thinking once we've reflected on what utter" + }, + { + "start": 96.24, + "end": 98.08, + "text": " dastards they were or not?" + }, + { + "start": 98.88, + "end": 101.75999999999999, + "text": " Here, I'm interested in agreeing on only one thing." + }, + { + "start": 101.75999999999999, + "end": 102.72, + "text": " Were they Evil?" + }, + { + "start": 104.88, + "end": 105.83999999999999, + "text": " Or Genius?" + }, + { + "start": 106.48, + "end": 111.92, + "text": " I took less fee to make that sound happen." + }, + { + "start": 113.2, + "end": 116.80000000000001, + "text": " No grey areas in this studio, apart from my tragically just for men covered here," + }, + { + "start": 117.36, + "end": 120.80000000000001, + "text": " we'll be sticking the subject in one of those boxes by the end of the show." + }, + { + "start": 121.68, + "end": 125.36, + "text": " And helping me be reductive to the point of light entertainment and" + }, + { + "start": 125.36, + "end": 130.64000000000001, + "text": " cutting at the other end is Rachel Paris, comedian, musician, actor from Lester," + }, + { + "start": 130.64000000000001, + "end": 133.68, + "text": " you might have seen her absolutely smashing the masher report," + }, + { + "start": 133.76000000000002, + "end": 135.84, + "text": " doing brilliant series too. I'm absolutely loving it." + }, + { + "start": 135.84, + "end": 137.68, + "text": " Also, your vintage dresses are here." + }, + { + "start": 137.68, + "end": 139.12, + "text": " And you enjoy a long walk on the beach." + }, + { + "start": 139.12, + "end": 140.32, + "text": " Were you being ironic when you said that?" + }, + { + "start": 140.32, + "end": 142.96, + "text": " I was being ironic about the last one, but I'm really" + }, + { + "start": 142.96, + "end": 144.16, + "text": " into vintage dresses." + }, + { + "start": 144.16, + "end": 144.8, + "text": " Oh, glad to hear it." + }, + { + "start": 144.8, + "end": 147.20000000000002, + "text": " And you've got a genius or evil fact about yourself?" + }, + { + "start": 147.20000000000002, + "end": 148.72, + "text": " Well, I suppose on that topic actually." + }, + { + "start": 148.72, + "end": 152.16, + "text": " So I am a genius definitely with charity shops." + }, + { + "start": 152.16, + "end": 153.52, + "text": " I can walk into 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+ { + "start": 224.56, + "end": 226.32, + "text": " Yes, which makes me sound like a wrestler." + }, + { + "start": 226.32, + "end": 227.76, + "text": " Very old, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 227.76, + "end": 229.44, + "text": " And you're also a manic arsenal fan," + }, + { + "start": 229.44, + "end": 231.6, + "text": " a normally shout-out at the telly when they're playing." + }, + { + "start": 231.6, + "end": 234.0, + "text": " Anything evil or genius you want to tell us about that you've been up to?" + }, + { + "start": 234.0, + "end": 234.95999999999998, + "text": " Or do?" + }, + { + "start": 234.95999999999998, + "end": 236.72, + "text": " I think I'm fairly genius at." + }, + { + "start": 236.72, + "end": 239.28, + "text": " And this was before I started writing crime fiction to be fair." + }, + { + "start": 239.28, + "end": 243.76, + "text": " Since I was a child at just being able to spot who done it in any sort of," + }, + { + "start": 243.76, + "end": 245.6, + "text": " any novel, any TV show." + }, + { + "start": 245.68, + "end": 249.84, + "text": " People don't watch things with me because I'm just well known for getting it within five minutes." + }, + { + "start": 249.84, + "end": 251.6, + "text": " I think we really like literary," + }, + { + "start": 251.6, + "end": 252.96, + "text": " especially if they took into the police." + }, + { + "start": 252.96, + "end": 254.32, + "text": " That would be a good character." + }, + { + "start": 254.32, + "end": 256.71999999999997, + "text": " Like a novelist, do they take into a police station?" + }, + { + "start": 256.71999999999997, + "end": 257.52, + "text": " I love you." + }, + { + "start": 257.52, + "end": 260.32, + "text": " And he has to write, it goes into like automatic writing and writes the crime down." + }, + { + "start": 260.32, + "end": 260.96, + "text": " I like it." + }, + { + "start": 260.96, + "end": 261.76, + "text": " Have that one on me." + }, + { + "start": 262.96, + "end": 264.24, + "text": " So how are we going to do this?" + }, + { + "start": 264.24, + "end": 267.28, + "text": " I've distributed envelopes amongst my panelists." + }, + { + "start": 267.28, + "end": 272.48, + "text": " Periodically, we'll open an envelope and reveal a curveball fact about today's subject." + }, + { + "start": 272.48, + "end": 273.92, + "text": " Okay guys, this is evil genius." + }, + { + "start": 273.92, + "end": 276.32, + "text": " You probably want to know who we're going to be talking about." + }, + { + "start": 276.32, + "end": 277.6, + "text": " John Lennon." + }, + { + "start": 278.24, + "end": 279.44, + "text": " Now I know what you're thinking." + }, + { + "start": 279.44, + "end": 280.24, + "text": " I know what you're thinking." + }, + { + "start": 280.24, + "end": 281.12, + "text": " Where's the evil?" + }, + { + "start": 281.68, + "end": 283.52000000000004, + "text": " Yeah, you might not like the music," + }, + { + "start": 283.52000000000004, + "end": 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" He was a bit of a wife, Beaty," + }, + { + "start": 1719.36, + "end": 1720.24, + "text": " semi-pocho." + }, + { + "start": 1720.96, + "end": 1724.24, + "text": " But the music was some of the best the planet" + }, + { + "start": 1724.32, + "end": 1725.1200000000001, + "text": " has ever known." + }, + { + "start": 1725.68, + "end": 1727.44, + "text": " I mean, seriously, without it," + }, + { + "start": 1727.44, + "end": 1729.76, + "text": " we'd probably still be listening to Schubert today." + }, + { + "start": 1730.48, + "end": 1731.6, + "text": " And that'd be awful." + }, + { + "start": 1731.6, + "end": 1732.0, + "text": " I know." + }, + { + "start": 1732.0, + "end": 1734.16, + "text": " Actually, it was a Schubert's amazing." + }, + { + "start": 1734.16, + "end": 1735.44, + "text": " I mean, he's a whole other subject," + }, + { + "start": 1735.44, + "end": 1737.04, + "text": " Diodes syphilis, total wanker." + }, + { + "start": 1737.04, + "end": 1737.68, + "text": " But what 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+ "text": " or you could look at it as courageous." + }, + { + "start": 1754.24, + "end": 1755.44, + "text": " Think of it as two scales." + }, + { + "start": 1756.16, + "end": 1757.68, + "text": " Not musical scales today." + }, + { + "start": 1758.16, + "end": 1760.08, + "text": " We can only be evil" + }, + { + "start": 1760.64, + "end": 1762.24, + "text": " or the lower register of genius." + }, + { + "start": 1762.8, + "end": 1764.08, + "text": " Are we a shrill of evil" + }, + { + "start": 1764.64, + "end": 1766.4, + "text": " or a baritone of genius?" + }, + { + "start": 1767.1200000000001, + "end": 1769.44, + "text": " Kaz, I'm going to ask you to vote first." + }, + { + "start": 1770.72, + "end": 1772.0, + "text": " I'm going to go evil." + }, + { + "start": 1772.0, + "end": 1772.72, + "text": " Didn't see it coming." + }, + { + "start": 1775.76, + "end": 1776.24, + "text": " And just..." + }, + { + "start": 1776.24, + "end": 1778.96, + "text": " I'm still feeling bit uncomfortable about evil." + }, + { + "start": 1778.96, + "end": 1780.88, + "text": " But, you know, if I've got to make a decision," + }, + { + "start": 1780.88, + "end": 1781.6, + "text": " then the..." + }, + { + "start": 1781.6, + "end": 1783.6, + "text": " the scales are definitely tipping that way." + }, + { + "start": 1783.6799999999998, + "end": 1788.3999999999999, + "text": " Just a big fake, hypocrite, bad dad." + }, + { + "start": 1788.3999999999999, + "end": 1789.84, + "text": " Just, yeah, evil." + }, + { + "start": 1790.32, + "end": 1792.56, + "text": " Rachel, don't be influenced by everyone around you." + }, + { + "start": 1792.56, + "end": 1794.48, + "text": " You are a musician yourself." + }, + { + "start": 1794.48, + "end": 1795.52, + "text": " You play music." + }, + { + "start": 1795.52, + "end": 1797.36, + "text": " You have to acknowledge the genius." + }, + { + "start": 1797.36, + "end": 1798.3999999999999, + "text": " But do you acknowledge it enough?" + }, + 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1825.36, + "text": " because I also think he's just infected," + }, + { + "start": 1825.36, + "end": 1826.3999999999999, + "text": " Britain, with this." + }, + { + "start": 1827.12, + "end": 1828.1599999999999, + "text": " I'm just sick of him." + }, + { + "start": 1828.8, + "end": 1829.76, + "text": " Sick of him." + }, + { + "start": 1829.76, + "end": 1831.12, + "text": " You just don't know what perfecting is." + }, + { + "start": 1831.12, + "end": 1833.9199999999998, + "text": " When you think we've got the leg of the site of him on posters," + }, + { + "start": 1833.9199999999998, + "end": 1836.0, + "text": " on books, some sick of documentaries about him," + }, + { + "start": 1836.0, + "end": 1838.3999999999999, + "text": " films about him, I don't give a shit." + }, + { + "start": 1838.3999999999999, + "end": 1840.08, + "text": " Christmas you can't move without that song." + }, + { + "start": 1840.08, + "end": 1840.9599999999998, + "text": " Oh, okay." + }, + { + "start": 1840.9599999999998, + "end": 1841.4399999999998, + "text": " I also..." + }, + { + "start": 1841.4399999999998, + "end": 1843.36, + "text": " Just come back to the coloured round glasses as well." + }, + { + "start": 1843.36, + "end": 1844.1599999999999, + "text": " Exactly." + }, + { + "start": 1844.1599999999999, + "end": 1845.12, + "text": " Well, that's the vote." + }, + { + "start": 1845.12, + "end": 1846.4799999999998, + "text": " I'm afraid John Lennon is." + }, + { + "start": 1847.84, + "end": 1848.56, + "text": " Evil." + }, + { + "start": 1848.56, + "end": 1850.24, + "text": " And he goes into the evil box." + }, + { + "start": 1850.8, + "end": 1852.32, + "text": " Panel, thank you so much." + }, + { + "start": 1852.32, + "end": 1854.8799999999999, + "text": " It's some of the stuff that's come out in today's discussion." + }, + { + "start": 1854.8799999999999, + "end": 1855.36, + "text": " It went places." + }, + { + "start": 1855.36, + "end": 1856.4799999999998, + "text": " I didn't think it would go." + }, + { + "start": 1856.4799999999998, + "end": 1859.76, + "text": " It's been fun watching you wrestle your love of music" + }, + { + "start": 1859.76, + "end": 1862.6399999999999, + "text": " with your hatred of misogyny and beating." + }, + { + "start": 1862.6399999999999, + "end": 1864.0, + "text": " So to be pretty standard." + }, + { + "start": 1865.84, + "end": 1868.0, + "text": " Do subscribe if you've enjoyed evil genius." + }, + { + "start": 1868.0, + "end": 1869.04, + "text": " The topics are varied." + }, + { + "start": 1869.76, + "end": 1871.6799999999998, + "text": " If you want to hear a man struggling with the subject," + }, + { + "start": 1871.6799999999998, + "end": 1872.7199999999998, + "text": " he's had a week to learn about." + }, + { + "start": 1872.88, + "end": 1874.64, + "text": " Three panelists who have been briefed properly." + }, + { + "start": 1874.64, + "end": 1877.04, + "text": " Click subscribe now." + }, + { + "start": 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