diff --git "a/Transcipts_base/Asking Doctor Mike About Health in Technology.json" "b/Transcipts_base/Asking Doctor Mike About Health in Technology.json" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/Transcipts_base/Asking Doctor Mike About Health in Technology.json" @@ -0,0 +1,9567 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 10.120000000000001, + "text": " What is going on people of the internet will come back to another episode of the Waveform" + }, + { + "start": 10.120000000000001, + "end": 12.120000000000001, + "text": " podcast where your host, I'm Mark Hez." + }, + { + "start": 12.120000000000001, + "end": 13.120000000000001, + "text": " I'm Andrew." + }, + { + "start": 13.120000000000001, + "end": 14.72, + "text": " And we have a very special guest today." + }, + { + "start": 14.72, + "end": 15.72, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 15.72, + "end": 16.72, + "text": " Dr. Mike is back." + }, + { + "start": 16.72, + "end": 19.76, + "text": " I say back because you helped us out with the Dyson video." + }, + { + "start": 19.76, + "end": 25.92, + "text": " We talked about the Dyson zone headphones and I feel like we've had so many conversations" + }, + { + "start": 25.92, + "end": 32.120000000000005, + "text": " at the studio or even in videos about some health feature or some feature of a tech product" + }, + { + "start": 32.120000000000005, + "end": 36.28, + "text": " where I have to preface it by saying, well, I'm not a medical professional, but and then" + }, + { + "start": 36.28, + "end": 38.68, + "text": " I'll just get into whatever I think." + }, + { + "start": 38.68, + "end": 43.6, + "text": " But it was great to have you actually weigh in and give us proper sound technical advice" + }, + { + "start": 43.6, + "end": 44.64, + "text": " from medical perspective." + }, + { + "start": 44.64, + "end": 49.28, + "text": " You know, it's funny because I'm a clinician, meaning I see patients on a daily basis." + }, + { + "start": 49.28, + "end": 55.24, + "text": " So all of my advice and the way that I interpret tech and gear comes from that standpoint" + }, + { + "start": 55.24, + "end": 57.24, + "text": " as opposed to a researcher standpoint." + }, + { + "start": 57.24, + "end": 63.08, + "text": " I think about the real life utility, real life usage, which drastically is different than" + }, + { + "start": 63.08, + "end": 64.96000000000001, + "text": " intended use or researcher use." + }, + { + "start": 64.96000000000001, + "end": 69.24000000000001, + "text": " Yeah, we can do all the research we want, but sometimes you just got to know how real people" + }, + { + "start": 69.24000000000001, + "end": 71.08, + "text": " like interact with things." + }, + { + "start": 71.08, + "end": 74.72, + "text": " So we decided to put all of it in one place today." + }, + { + "start": 74.72, + "end": 75.72, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 75.72, + "end": 80.24000000000001, + "text": " We've had a ton of interesting random things pop up in the tech 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"start": 211.44, + "end": 214.0, + "text": " So that's my day to day job." + }, + { + "start": 214.0, + "end": 219.6, + "text": " But then kind of as my side job, I've become a YouTuber, someone that specializes in media" + }, + { + "start": 219.6, + "end": 224.36, + "text": " production and now I'm a professional boxer as well." + }, + { + "start": 224.36, + "end": 226.84, + "text": " There wasn't enough things to variety." + }, + { + "start": 226.84, + "end": 227.84, + "text": " It's a variety." + }, + { + "start": 227.84, + "end": 229.8, + "text": " I mean, that's like, that's a wild list." + }, + { + "start": 229.8, + "end": 234.12, + "text": " First of all, becoming a doctor is like more than a full time job in itself." + }, + { + "start": 234.12, + "end": 239.52, + "text": " And then a lot of people, especially a YouTuber with 10 million subs, like that is also a" + }, + { + "start": 239.52, + "end": 240.52, + "text": " full time job." + }, + { + "start": 240.52, + "end": 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"end": 290.84, + "text": " Well, and then the next day you're working at a hospital or as a private clinic, I also" + }, + { + "start": 290.84, + "end": 292.32, + "text": " don't want to dox you on anything." + }, + { + "start": 292.32, + "end": 293.32, + "text": " You're the okay." + }, + { + "start": 293.32, + "end": 294.32, + "text": " We're kind of community medical center." + }, + { + "start": 294.32, + "end": 295.32, + "text": " It's all Google." + }, + { + "start": 295.32, + "end": 296.32, + "text": " So it's very obvious where I work." + }, + { + "start": 296.32, + "end": 298.32, + "text": " And I've worked there since residency." + }, + { + "start": 298.32, + "end": 302.35999999999996, + "text": " Actually next year, despite being pretty young, it's my 10 year anniversary working there" + }, + { + "start": 302.35999999999996, + "end": 303.35999999999996, + "text": " as a doctor." + }, + { + "start": 303.35999999999996, + "end": 304.35999999999996, + "text": " That's right." + 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" Mike, where did you have?" + }, + { + "start": 4129.820000000001, + "end": 4135.14, + "text": " I was going to go with what you did, but I went computer medical records EHR pacemaker." + }, + { + "start": 4135.62, + "end": 4137.58, + "text": " Laser and that is earliest to latest." + }, + { + "start": 4137.58, + "end": 4138.58, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 4138.58, + "end": 4140.740000000001, + "text": " So fortunately, Mike, not all of us." + }, + { + "start": 4140.740000000001, + "end": 4141.740000000001, + "text": " So sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4141.740000000001, + "end": 4142.740000000001, + "text": " Oh, did you all put the same thing?" + }, + { + "start": 4142.740000000001, + "end": 4143.740000000001, + "text": " No, no, sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4143.740000000001, + "end": 4144.740000000001, + "text": " I went." + }, + { + "start": 4144.740000000001, + "end": 4145.740000000001, + "text": " Oh, what'd you do?" + }, + { + "start": 4145.740000000001, + "end": 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+ "end": 4240.34, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 4240.34, + "end": 4241.34, + "text": " There's the only one." + }, + { + "start": 4241.34, + "end": 4242.34, + "text": " I have another one." + }, + { + "start": 4242.34, + "end": 4243.34, + "text": " Oh, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4243.34, + "end": 4244.34, + "text": " You want to do it?" + }, + { + "start": 4244.34, + "end": 4245.34, + "text": " Let's do it." + }, + { + "start": 4245.34, + "end": 4246.34, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4246.34, + "end": 4247.34, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 4247.34, + "end": 4251.58, + "text": " So 2020 survey by Cisco, what percent?" + }, + { + "start": 4251.58, + "end": 4252.58, + "text": " Song song?" + }, + { + "start": 4252.58, + "end": 4253.58, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 4253.58, + "end": 4254.58, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 4254.58, + "end": 4257.58, + "text": " You Alice might be too young." + }, + { + "start": 4257.58, + "end": 4259.82, + "text": " Who did the song song?" + }, + { + "start": 4259.82, + "end": 4262.82, + "text": " No, Cisco, the networking giant." + }, + { + "start": 4262.82, + "end": 4265.58, + "text": " Oh, that's what I'm about to say." + }, + { + "start": 4265.58, + "end": 4266.58, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 4266.58, + "end": 4271.66, + "text": " According to a 2020 survey by Cisco, what percent of medical devices are currently running" + }, + { + "start": 4271.66, + "end": 4273.34, + "text": " unsupported software?" + }, + { + "start": 4273.34, + "end": 4277.74, + "text": " That means the software they're running has no patches or updates available." + }, + { + "start": 4277.74, + "end": 4278.74, + "text": " 2020." + }, + { + "start": 4278.74, + "end": 4280.54, + "text": " And this is closest wins?" + }, + { + "start": 4280.54, + "end": 4282.1, + "text": " Oh, yes." + }, + { + "start": 4282.1, + "end": 4288.66, + "text": " Here we do prices write rules, so closest without going 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"end": 4327.14, + "text": " I'm so sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4327.14, + "end": 4328.14, + "text": " The quick dance." + }, + { + "start": 4328.14, + "end": 4329.14, + "text": " Is it 3.13?" + }, + { + "start": 4329.14, + "end": 4333.1, + "text": " It's 60% of medical devices." + }, + { + "start": 4333.1, + "end": 4335.860000000001, + "text": " That actually surprises me." + }, + { + "start": 4335.860000000001, + "end": 4337.740000000001, + "text": " Surprise you because it's low or high." + }, + { + "start": 4337.740000000001, + "end": 4341.620000000001, + "text": " I figured very few medical devices get software patches." + }, + { + "start": 4341.620000000001, + "end": 4344.02, + "text": " I guess it depends when you consider a medical device." + }, + { + "start": 4344.02, + "end": 4352.620000000001, + "text": " So it's an issue people talk about in cybersecurity a lot because things like a medical laser typically" + }, + { + "start": 4352.620000000001, + "end": 4357.860000000001, + 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That's why you guys are worried about AI." + }, + { + "start": 4386.34, + "end": 4390.9800000000005, + "text": " We have lasers that are about Wi-Fi connected lasers in hospitals." + }, + { + "start": 4390.9800000000005, + "end": 4391.9800000000005, + "text": " That's crazy." + }, + { + "start": 4391.9800000000005, + "end": 4392.9800000000005, + "text": " Good to know." + }, + { + "start": 4392.9800000000005, + "end": 4393.9800000000005, + "text": " I'm glad to." + }, + { + "start": 4393.9800000000005, + "end": 4398.54, + "text": " Most cars aren't software updateable so that's pretty impressive." + }, + { + "start": 4398.54, + "end": 4400.38, + "text": " One last question, Mike." + }, + { + "start": 4400.38, + "end": 4404.02, + "text": " How fast can you type the alphabet?" + }, + { + "start": 4404.02, + "end": 4405.26, + "text": " What's like the average speed?" + }, + { + "start": 4405.26, + "end": 4406.26, + "text": " I don't even know." + }, + { + "start": 4406.26, + "end": 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" So you type A through Z." + }, + { + "start": 4449.46, + "end": 4455.3, + "text": " If you miss one you have to keep, you have to hit that letter to go on and we'll give" + }, + { + "start": 4455.3, + "end": 4456.78, + "text": " you three shots." + }, + { + "start": 4456.78, + "end": 4458.74, + "text": " Don't hit enter at the end because it resets the counter." + }, + { + "start": 4458.74, + "end": 4460.38, + "text": " The timer shows up when you hit Z." + }, + { + "start": 4460.38, + "end": 4461.62, + "text": " And we do have a leaderboard." + }, + { + "start": 4461.62, + "end": 4466.38, + "text": " We're gonna say that at the end but now there's a little pressure." + }, + { + "start": 4466.38, + "end": 4467.62, + "text": " Sometimes pressure gets to go." + }, + { + "start": 4467.62, + "end": 4468.62, + "text": " Now I need a caffeine." + }, + { + "start": 4468.62, + "end": 4469.62, + "text": " True." + }, + { + "start": 4469.66, + "end": 4471.46, + "text": " I was like I take your 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4743.34, + "end": 4744.34, + "text": " OK." + }, + { + "start": 4744.34, + "end": 4745.34, + "text": " Don't get me." + }, + { + "start": 4745.34, + "end": 4746.34, + "text": " Question number one." + }, + { + "start": 4746.34, + "end": 4751.34, + "text": " Question number one, according to a 2020 survey by Cisco," + }, + { + "start": 4751.900000000001, + "end": 4755.1, + "text": " what percent of medical devices are currently running" + }, + { + "start": 4755.1, + "end": 4758.900000000001, + "text": " unsupported software, meaning no patches or updates" + }, + { + "start": 4758.900000000001, + "end": 4760.860000000001, + "text": " will ever be available?" + }, + { + "start": 4760.860000000001, + "end": 4765.22, + "text": " And it's prices write rules as per usual." + }, + { + "start": 4765.22, + "end": 4768.02, + "text": " Oh, so that means whoever we use as a rule" + }, + { + "start": 4768.02, + "end": 4770.860000000001, + "text": " should be right, maybe wrong." + }, + { + "start": 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"start": 4943.62, + "end": 4944.46, + "text": " Well played." + }, + { + "start": 4944.46, + "end": 4945.34, + "text": " Thanks guys." + }, + { + "start": 4945.34, + "end": 4946.18, + "text": " Well played." + }, + { + "start": 4946.18, + "end": 4947.02, + "text": " Appreciate you." + }, + { + "start": 4947.02, + "end": 4948.82, + "text": " Well, I think that wraps it up." + }, + { + "start": 4948.82, + "end": 4949.66, + "text": " Yep." + }, + { + "start": 4949.66, + "end": 4951.18, + "text": " Shout out to you for getting a question right." + }, + { + "start": 4952.06, + "end": 4953.5, + "text": " Thanks again to Dr. Mike for coming on" + }, + { + "start": 4953.5, + "end": 4955.58, + "text": " and answering all our questions." + }, + { + "start": 4955.58, + "end": 4958.42, + "text": " And thanks again to you for watching and listening." + }, + { + "start": 4958.42, + "end": 4959.860000000001, + "text": " Catch you in the next one." + }, + { + "start": 4959.860000000001, + "end": 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