diff --git "a/Transcipts_base/2025 Jeep Compass .json" "b/Transcipts_base/2025 Jeep Compass .json" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/Transcipts_base/2025 Jeep Compass .json" @@ -0,0 +1,4287 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 12.32, + "text": " All right, everyone, welcome back." + }, + { + "start": 12.32, + "end": 13.32, + "text": " I'm John Lincove." + }, + { + "start": 13.32, + "end": 14.56, + "text": " I'm Jennifer Stockberger." + }, + { + "start": 14.56, + "end": 15.88, + "text": " I'm Joe Vasslack." + }, + { + "start": 15.88, + "end": 21.56, + "text": " And this week we're going to be talking about the Jeep Compass, which is right now the" + }, + { + "start": 21.56, + "end": 28.16, + "text": " only small SUV in the Jeep lineup because both the Renegade and Cherokee were dropped" + }, + { + "start": 28.16, + "end": 29.16, + "text": " previously." + }, + { + "start": 29.16, + "end": 35.44, + "text": " So, the Compass has to do double duty as a compact SUV as well as a subcompact SUV." + }, + { + "start": 35.44, + "end": 40.28, + "text": " You may be wondering why we're talking about it because in 2023 there are actually some" + }, + { + "start": 40.28, + "end": 41.28, + "text": " changes." + }, + { + "start": 41.28, + "end": 45.28, + "text": " So, yeah, there were some thoughts of the Compass going away." + }, + { + "start": 45.28, + "end": 49.04, + "text": " There were plans for a redesigned one." + }, + { + "start": 49.04, + "end": 53.72, + "text": " So in 2023, Jeep gave the Compass a 200 horsepower, two liter turbocharged four cylinder" + }, + { + "start": 53.72, + "end": 58.36, + "text": " engine, paired it with a B2B automatic transmission and gave it standard all-wheel drive." + }, + { + "start": 58.36, + "end": 61.519999999999996, + "text": " So, not every SUV in that category gets standard all-wheel drives." + }, + { + "start": 61.519999999999996, + "end": 63.08, + "text": " That's sort of like a selling point for them." + }, + { + "start": 63.08, + "end": 65.28, + "text": " Some of that category don't get all-wheel drive at all." + }, + { + "start": 65.28, + "end": 66.28, + "text": " That's true." + }, + { + "start": 66.28, + "end": 69.36, + "text": " The subcompact category, yep, a lot of them are front only." + }, + { + "start": 69.36, + "end": 73.72, + "text": " So like I was saying, there is going to be a next generation Compass, but it's based on" + }, + { + "start": 73.72, + "end": 79.6, + "text": " a global platform, the Lantis, the parent company of Alpha Romeo, Mouserade and Jeep, Chrysler," + }, + { + "start": 79.6, + "end": 80.6, + "text": " et cetera." + }, + { + "start": 80.6, + "end": 84.24, + "text": " But that's not coming to North American until 2026." + }, + { + "start": 84.24, + "end": 86.16, + "text": " The rest of the world is going to see it in 2025." + }, + { + "start": 86.16, + "end": 91.72, + "text": " So we've said, you know what, with used car content that we have on Consumer Reports," + }, + { + "start": 91.72, + "end": 97.08, + "text": " .org, and in our magazine, and also just having updated ratings, time to test the Compass" + }, + { + "start": 97.08, + "end": 98.36, + "text": " with that new power train." + }, + { + "start": 98.36, + "end": 105.24, + "text": " But Joe, in our pre-meeting, you were talking a little bit about it as the Compass gets" + }, + { + "start": 105.24, + "end": 107.16, + "text": " this kind of halo effect, right?" + }, + { + "start": 107.16, + "end": 108.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 108.16, + "end": 109.16, + "text": " And it's common." + }, + { + "start": 109.16, + "end": 110.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 110.16, + "end": 115.72, + "text": " So I think, yeah, you feel like you're buying into the Jeep brand, the lifestyle, the" + }, + { + "start": 116.16, + "end": 117.2, + "text": " driving experience." + }, + { + "start": 117.2, + "end": 118.2, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 118.2, + "end": 123.6, + "text": " And so when you're expecting to be driving something similar to a Jeep Grand Cherokee that" + }, + { + "start": 123.6, + "end": 130.96, + "text": " actually drive pretty nice, rides well, steering is good, good power, power delivery." + }, + { + "start": 130.96, + "end": 131.96, + "text": " Yeah, attractive." + }, + { + "start": 131.96, + "end": 132.96, + "text": " Yeah, yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 132.96, + "end": 133.96, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 133.96, + "end": 135.96, + "text": " Best selling Jeep Grand Cherokee." + }, + { + "start": 135.96, + "end": 136.96, + "text": " Yeah, that's your soul." + }, + { + "start": 136.96, + "end": 137.96, + "text": " Oh, okay." + }, + { + "start": 137.96, + "end": 138.96, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 138.96, + "end": 139.96, + "text": " You got that." + }, + { + "start": 139.96, + "end": 140.96, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 140.96, + "end": 144.44, + "text": " So yeah, you kind of, you're led to it to believe that you might be buying, you know," + }, + { + "start": 144.44, + "end": 149.6, + "text": " something that drives similar to a Grand Cherokee, but in this case, it's, it's, well," + }, + { + "start": 149.6, + "end": 151.16, + "text": " it's not the case here." + }, + { + "start": 151.16, + "end": 155.84, + "text": " But on the, similar circumstances, we talked about the X1 or the X2 when you think you're" + }, + { + "start": 155.84, + "end": 162.24, + "text": " getting an X3 or you're getting an X5 drivability or that, you know, driving experience, it's," + }, + { + "start": 162.24, + "end": 163.24, + "text": " it's not there." + }, + { + "start": 163.24, + "end": 165.68, + "text": " It's just, you know, you're, you're kind of buying the badge." + }, + { + "start": 165.68, + "end": 166.68, + "text": " Yeah, certainly." + }, + { + "start": 166.68, + "end": 170.56, + "text": " I mean, we've seen it, you know, not just from BMW, but we've seen it in a lot of our," + }, + { + 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196.72, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 196.72, + "end": 198.72, + "text": " You know, and it's got all the little logos and a little Sasquatch and the little Jeep crawling" + }, + { + "start": 198.72, + "end": 203.6, + "text": " in the Easter eggs, if you will, but Easter eggs don't make a good vehicle, you know." + }, + { + "start": 203.6, + "end": 206.28, + "text": " But you know, there are a number of positives with it." + }, + { + "start": 206.28, + "end": 209.72, + "text": " You know, it's, we like hard controls to the climate system, you know, too many people" + }, + { + "start": 209.72, + "end": 212.92, + "text": " or too many manufacturers throwing them into the touchscreen." + }, + { + "start": 212.92, + "end": 216.68, + "text": " Audio controls in the back of the steering wheel, Jeep, Stellantis Chrysler, I mean, you" + }, + { + "start": 216.68, + "end": 217.76, + "text": " know, it's across the brand." + }, + { + "start": 217.76, + "end": 220.2, + "text": " They do that really well, I think, in a number of, yeah, like that." + }, + { + "start": 220.2, + "end": 224.6, + "text": " Like one of my favorite parts of the controls in Stellantis products." + }, + { + "start": 224.6, + "end": 225.6, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 225.6, + "end": 226.6, + "text": " And they've done it for years." + }, + { + "start": 226.6, + "end": 227.6, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 227.6, + "end": 229.16, + "text": " They perfected." + }, + { + "start": 229.16, + "end": 231.51999999999998, + "text": " What's your guys' opinion on passing power?" + }, + { + "start": 231.51999999999998, + "end": 232.68, + "text": " You know, you're driven it." + }, + { + "start": 232.68, + "end": 236.16, + "text": " You know, it's, it's sometimes you get little, you know, peakyness and such." + }, + { + "start": 236.16, + "end": 236.95999999999998, + "text": " We could talk about that." + }, + { + "start": 236.95999999999998, + "end": 241.56, + "text": " But does it have 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"text": " The old 2.4 was kind of a dog." + }, + { + "start": 301.56, + "end": 302.56, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 302.56, + "end": 303.56, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 303.56, + "end": 304.56, + "text": " Sure." + }, + { + "start": 304.56, + "end": 305.48, + "text": " When did, yeah, I agree with what everything Jen said." + }, + { + "start": 305.48, + "end": 308.84000000000003, + "text": " It does, you know, it's an improvement on power, especially mid range." + }, + { + "start": 308.84, + "end": 313.56, + "text": " I think it does, you know, for most people and daily driving it as enough power for what" + }, + { + "start": 313.56, + "end": 314.56, + "text": " you need." + }, + { + "start": 314.56, + "end": 317.52, + "text": " I mean, we're kind of now with EVs and everything." + }, + { + "start": 317.52, + "end": 322.2, + "text": " Everything's so fast today that when you jump in a car that, you know, is an improvement" + }, + { + "start": 322.2, + "end": 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