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Normal parade." + }, + { + "start": 28.0, + "end": 35.0, + "text": " And then all of the sudden I get someone shouting at my name and I see him, you know." + }, + { + "start": 35.0, + "end": 37.0, + "text": " He was quite a funny moment." + }, + { + "start": 37.0, + "end": 40.0, + "text": " He was very close to your face." + }, + { + "start": 40.0, + "end": 43.0, + "text": " Paras, yeah, yeah, remember his face pretty well." + }, + { + "start": 43.0, + "end": 44.0, + "text": " Bruce Baffer." + }, + { + "start": 44.0, + "end": 45.0, + "text": " Las Vegas." + }, + { + "start": 45.0, + "end": 47.0, + "text": " It was an awkward moment to watch." + }, + { + "start": 47.0, + "end": 48.0, + "text": " How did you feel at the time?" + }, + { + "start": 48.0, + "end": 50.0, + "text": " Yeah, it was pretty cool, obviously." + }, + { + "start": 50.0, + "end": 52.0, + "text": " It's such an icon." + }, + { + "start": 52.0, + "end": 55.0, + "text": " Bruce, that was really, really cool." + }, + { + 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Sergio Jr." + }, + { + "start": 555.0, + "end": 556.0, + "text": " Is he Czecho as well?" + }, + { + "start": 556.0, + "end": 557.0, + "text": " Czecho as well." + }, + { + "start": 557.0, + "end": 559.0, + "text": " And does he have a Czechinho?" + }, + { + "start": 559.0, + "end": 561.0, + "text": " No, just Czecho." + }, + { + "start": 561.0, + "end": 562.0, + "text": " Just Czecho, okay." + }, + { + "start": 562.0, + "end": 565.0, + "text": " But will we see Czecho Jr. racing in Italy, do you think?" + }, + { + "start": 565.0, + "end": 570.0, + "text": " Well, if he wants to, at the moment, he's racing mainly at my karting track" + }, + { + "start": 570.0, + "end": 575.0, + "text": " with like 10 to 20 other kids." + }, + { + "start": 575.0, + "end": 579.0, + "text": " And yeah, we'll see." + }, + { + "start": 579.0, + "end": 585.0, + "text": " I think he will do some, later on, some races probably in the U.S. in Mexico." + }, + { + "start": 585.0, + "end": 591.0, + "text": " And 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When you did that, it's a massive effort." + }, + { + "start": 624.0, + "end": 631.0, + "text": " The only reason I'm here is because all my family, all together, we gave it all." + }, + { + "start": 631.0, + "end": 638.0, + "text": " And if that's his dream, I think to me, happiness is about pursuing your dreams." + }, + { + "start": 638.0, + "end": 646.0, + "text": " And if that's his dream, I will support him, although it hurts a lot to lose a son that goes so early away." + }, + { + "start": 646.0, + "end": 650.0, + "text": " But it will help him in his character." + }, + { + "start": 650.0, + "end": 654.0, + "text": " Regardless of if he makes it or not into the sport, into the phone one," + }, + { + "start": 654.0, + "end": 656.0, + "text": " it will help him so much." + }, + { + "start": 656.0, + "end": 662.0, + "text": " So I will be really proud for him to pursue his dreams." + }, + { + "start": 662.0, + "end": 669.0, + "text": " And if he does end up on a different continent 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So we've had a first look at the upgraded cars for 2024. And we could very well see a fight on our hands this season." + }, + { + "start": 1728.0, + "end": 1738.0, + "text": " With F1 TV Pro, you can experience every angle live. That means live streaming and riding on board. Plus join me and the team for its exclusive weekend shows." + }, + { + "start": 1738.0, + "end": 1743.0, + "text": " The best part, you can watch how you want anytime, anywhere on any device." + }, + { + "start": 1743.0, + "end": 1750.0, + "text": " Get F1 TV Pro from Unmissable 2024 season. Sign up now for your 7-day free trial." + }, + { + "start": 1750.0, + "end": 1757.0, + "text": " F1 TV Pro is only available in select territories and TCCs apply. So check out the website for more details." + }, + { + "start": 1757.0, + "end": 1768.0, + "text": " You've been in F1 since 2011. Can we talk about the outside noise? 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It's always a joy speaking to you." + }, + { + "start": 3449.0, + "end": 3451.0, + "text": " Thank you very much for your time." + }, + { + "start": 3451.0, + "end": 3453.0, + "text": " Best of luck in 2024." + }, + { + "start": 3463.0, + "end": 3465.0, + "text": " Thank you." + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/1800SecondsOnAutism.mp3.json b/Transcipts_base/1800SecondsOnAutism.mp3.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..3ade110f54d05238bb51b8279f8170727a4e6d1c --- /dev/null +++ b/Transcipts_base/1800SecondsOnAutism.mp3.json @@ -0,0 +1,3957 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 2.0, + "text": " This is the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 16.8, + "end": 18.72, + "text": " Just check that over. That your..." + }, + { + "start": 18.72, + "end": 19.68, + "text": " Your cryptic..." + }, + { + "start": 19.68, + "end": 21.84, + "text": " ...piston case, I've forgotten what I'm doing." + }, + { + "start": 21.84, + "end": 22.88, + "text": " Great!" + }, + { + "start": 22.88, + "end": 25.28, + "text": " So, hello and welcome to Podcasting House." + }, + { + "start": 25.28, + "end": 27.2, + "text": " And here we are again. 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+ "end": 1144.32, + "text": " Send any questions or thoughts to" + }, + { + "start": 1144.32, + "end": 1147.12, + "text": " Stim at BBC.co.uk." + }, + { + "start": 1147.76, + "end": 1151.28, + "text": " Well, we're settling down nicely in our studio, aren't we, Jamie?" + }, + { + "start": 1151.28, + "end": 1152.56, + "text": " Yeah, quite like it." + }, + { + "start": 1152.56, + "end": 1155.76, + "text": " It's nice and dark, lovely people, lovely time, all good." + }, + { + "start": 1155.76, + "end": 1157.76, + "text": " Hey, Robin, you asked me about my keys." + }, + { + "start": 1157.76, + "end": 1159.76, + "text": " Is there any reason why you asked about keys?" + }, + { + "start": 1159.76, + "end": 1163.76, + "text": " Well, because if you're not wearing shoes," + }, + { + "start": 1163.76, + "end": 1167.76, + "text": " then that probably means you haven't gone for your routine for going out." + }, + { + "start": 1167.76, + "end": 1170.0, + "text": " And if you haven't gone for 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God love how the professionals pathologize stuff." + }, + { + "start": 1737.64, + "end": 1738.64, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1738.64, + "end": 1741.64, + "text": " No, like when somebody wins the lottery, they jump up and down and flap." + }, + { + "start": 1741.64, + "end": 1742.64, + "text": " Yeah, yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1742.64, + "end": 1743.64, + "text": " So what we do just for often?" + }, + { + "start": 1743.64, + "end": 1746.64, + "text": " Yeah, flapping and rocking and spinning in circles." + }, + { + "start": 1746.64, + "end": 1751.64, + "text": " Did you know that I did a survey of 100 autistic people and I asked them about their stimming." + }, + { + "start": 1751.64, + "end": 1756.64, + "text": " I think that 72% of people had been asked not to stim." + }, + { + "start": 1756.64, + "end": 1758.64, + "text": " 50% of people said they like stimming." + }, + { + "start": 1758.64, + "end": 1761.64, + "text": " 30% of people said they like stimming sometimes." + }, + { + "start": 1761.64, + "end": 1768.64, + "text": " And the top three reasons for people stimming were to reduce anxiety, calm down over stimulated senses." + }, + { + "start": 1768.64, + "end": 1772.64, + "text": " And I don't know what the other one was, but anyway." + }, + { + "start": 1772.64, + "end": 1774.64, + "text": " And there's a couple of reasons there." + }, + { + "start": 1774.64, + "end": 1777.64, + "text": " Reducing anxiety and calming down senses." + }, + { + "start": 1777.64, + "end": 1778.64, + "text": " Whatever." + }, + { + "start": 1778.64, + "end": 1783.64, + "text": " And this sensation that's for me stimming happens in my body and comes out." + }, + { + "start": 1783.64, + "end": 1789.64, + "text": " And the more I let the stims flow, the more I feel myself and actually the better I feel about things." + }, + { + "start": 1789.64, + "end": 1794.64, + "text": " When I was a kid, being stopped from rocking or stopped from flapping my hands." + }, + { + "start": 1794.64, + "end": 1795.64, + "text": " My hands." + }, + { + "start": 1795.64, + "end": 1796.64, + "text": " Yeah, quiet hands." + }, + { + "start": 1796.64, + "end": 1802.64, + "text": " So this is a phrase that I don't know if we still have it in special schools, but Gully, it was a pain in the butt for me." + }, + { + "start": 1802.64, + "end": 1805.64, + "text": " I had it a bit at primary school and quite a lot at my first secondary school." + }, + { + "start": 1805.64, + "end": 1810.64, + "text": " If I was flapping my hands or clicking a pen lid or something, I'd be told, oh, quiet hands, Jamie." + }, + { + "start": 1810.64, + "end": 1814.64, + "text": " Which I of course took to me in hands, face down like I'm a prisoner on a table." + }, + { + "start": 1814.64, + "end": 1820.64, + "text": " And it used to be the ban on my existence because the moment I stopped paying attention to that and got distracted by something else, they'd be back up flapping again." + }, + { + "start": 1820.64, + "end": 1826.64, + "text": " But actually the flapping and the movements and stuff, they all helped me to think and work and be part of my own body." + }, + { + "start": 1826.64, + "end": 1832.64, + "text": " And I think sometimes in the urge to make being around autistic people more comfortable to non-autistic people," + }, + { + "start": 1832.64, + "end": 1837.64, + "text": " we actually deny autistic people bodily autonomy, you know, control over our own bodies." + }, + { + "start": 1837.64, + "end": 1842.64, + "text": " And that I think is one of the kind of most corrosive, well-meaning things that people do." + }, + { + "start": 1842.64, + "end": 1845.64, + "text": " I know they mean well, but it can be really difficult." + }, + { + "start": 1845.64, + "end": 1847.64, + "text": " Yeah, let the flap free." + }, + { + "start": 1847.64, + "end": 1848.64, + "text": " Yeah, free the flaps." + }, + { + "start": 1848.64, + "end": 1856.64, + "text": " And as we said before, if you've got a flap that you want to send us, eGN email or something, then please, yeah, do send it to Stim at bbc.co.uk." + }, + { + "start": 1856.64, + "end": 1858.64, + "text": " Yeah, you can send a photo." + }, + { + "start": 1858.64, + "end": 1859.64, + "text": " Yeah, or a video." + }, + { + "start": 1859.64, + "end": 1860.64, + "text": " We'd love to see that." + }, + { + "start": 1860.64, + "end": 1861.64, + "text": " Yeah, we would." + }, + { + "start": 1861.64, + "end": 1865.64, + "text": " Although we're making a podcast, so we won't be able to show it on air. We'd be able to go, oh, that's a nice Stim." + }, + { + "start": 1865.64, + "end": 1869.64, + "text": " Well, to try and avoid information overload, I think we'll finish there." + }, + { + "start": 1869.64, + "end": 1871.64, + "text": " We've talked about lots of things today." + }, + { + "start": 1871.64, + "end": 1873.64, + "text": " Yeah, well, we're going to wrap it up with..." + }, + { + "start": 1873.64, + "end": 1875.64, + "text": " Well, I've got this little bit of script, so I'll read that." + }, + { + "start": 1875.64, + "end": 1878.64, + "text": " That's it for this edition. I hope you've enjoyed it." + }, + { + "start": 1878.64, + "end": 1881.64, + "text": " If you did enjoy it, tell everyone about it." + }, + { + "start": 1881.64, + "end": 1884.64, + "text": " If you didn't enjoy it, also tell everybody about it." + }, + { + "start": 1884.64, + "end": 1890.64, + "text": " In future weeks, we're looking to talk about our home lives, autistic humour, socialising, parenting, all sorts of stuff." + }, + { + "start": 1890.64, + "end": 1896.64, + "text": " And of course, if you have any questions or suggestions, then drop us an email at Stim at bbc.co.uk." + }, + { + "start": 1896.64, + "end": 1898.64, + "text": " We'll see you next week." + }, + { + "start": 1898.64, + "end": 1903.64, + "text": " Please make sure you subscribe so you get to hear the podcast as soon as it comes out." + }, + { + "start": 1903.64, + "end": 1908.64, + "text": " Anyway, thanks very much for joining us, and we look forward to you hearing us again soon." + }, + { + "start": 1908.64, + "end": 1909.64, + "text": " Bye!" + }, + { + "start": 1909.64, + "end": 1910.64, + "text": " Bye!" + }, + { + "start": 1910.64, + "end": 1912.64, + "text": " Time's off." + }, + { + "start": 1913.64, + "end": 1917.64, + "text": " That was 1800 seconds on Autism." + }, + { + "start": 1920.64, + "end": 1932.64, + "text": " I don't know about you, Eli, but it was one of those podcasts where I felt I properly understood someone else's world for it." + }, + { + "start": 1932.64, + "end": 1934.64, + "text": " It felt like a gift to me." + }, + { + "start": 1934.64, + "end": 1936.64, + "text": " Yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1936.64, + "end": 1939.64, + "text": " They put me in a place that I would have never gotten to on my own." + }, + { + "start": 1939.64, + "end": 1941.64, + "text": " I'm glad we did that, you liked it." + }, + { + "start": 1941.64, + "end": 1942.64, + "text": " Yes, we did." + }, + { + "start": 1942.64, + "end": 1947.64, + "text": " So if you liked that and you want to hear more, just search for 1800 seconds." + }, + { + "start": 1947.64, + "end": 1956.64, + "text": " That's 1-8-0-0 space, seconds, space, on space, autism, in the bbc sounds app." + }, + { + "start": 1956.64, + "end": 1958.64, + "text": " Or indeed on the bbc sounds website." + }, + { + "start": 1958.64, + "end": 1960.64, + "text": " And we'll see you next time." + }, + { + "start": 1972.64, + "end": 1973.64, + "text": " Bye!" + }, + { + "start": 2002.64, + "end": 2003.64, + "text": " Bye!" + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/2024 BMW X2 .json b/Transcipts_base/2024 BMW X2 .json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..b1cf19bcf6becf95b0cd6921552d2e1b22534a16 --- /dev/null +++ b/Transcipts_base/2024 BMW X2 .json @@ -0,0 +1,1477 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 16.48, + "text": " Hi and welcome to Talking Cars. I'm Jennifer Stockburger. I'm Alex Nasik. I'm Joe Vesla." + }, + { + "start": 16.48, + "end": 23.72, + "text": " So today we're going to give our first thoughts, first impressions around the 2024 BMW X2." + }, + { + "start": 23.72, + "end": 28.04, + "text": " So certainly in my homework before we start I wanted to kind of sort out the evens and" + }, + { + "start": 28.04, + "end": 36.92, + "text": " the odds, the BMW evens and the odds specifically. So obviously the most popular models are among SUVs" + }, + { + "start": 36.92, + "end": 45.28, + "text": " X1, X3, X5. But obviously there's evens, X2, X4, X6 that gets slotted in there. 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And that, you know, yes, in some ways and know it some other way." + }, + { + "start": 103.92, + "end": 108.32, + "text": " So we just want to see what the, those differences are and how they impacts, you know, just the" + }, + { + "start": 108.32, + "end": 112.96, + "text": " usefulness of the vehicle from cargo capacity and access visibility, all these things. You know," + }, + { + "start": 112.96, + "end": 119.67999999999999, + "text": " it's kind of similar to the way Mercedes did the GLA versus the GLB, right? Similar platform" + }, + { + "start": 119.67999999999999, + "end": 123.52, + "text": " and whatnot underneath, but they're kind of slightly different body styles basically. Right. And" + }, + { + "start": 123.52, + "end": 128.48, + "text": " that's what we're here for is to help consumers sort that out. Exactly. Not just say, oh, it's" + }, + { + "start": 128.48, + "end": 132.48, + "text": " identical, except it's kind of the screen version. Right. 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Yeah and there's a lot of things that kind of contribute to what" + }, + { + "start": 421.44, + "end": 426.8, + "text": " that end balance is as far as which shock absorbers are chosen in the tuning in this and that and how" + }, + { + "start": 426.8, + "end": 431.84000000000003, + "text": " much time money development they put into it right and I think I don't you mentioned the handling" + }, + { + "start": 431.84000000000003, + "end": 437.76, + "text": " and I think it's definitely above average for a you know vehicle in this class and of this size right" + }, + { + "start": 437.76, + "end": 443.6, + "text": " it is a more engaging driving experience but I don't know if it's enough to justify like the ride" + }, + { + "start": 443.6, + "end": 448.72, + "text": " and some of these other things like it's not it's getting close to sporty in my opinion but it's not" + }, + { + "start": 448.72, + "end": 454.24, + "text": " quite there. 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I'm Mike Quincy. I'm Kelly Funcaze. I'm Joe Vesselac. So today we are going to talk about the 2024 Kia EV9." + }, + { + "start": 21.0, + "end": 32.0, + "text": " Let's just make it clear that the argument could be made. The EV9 is like the first mainstream three row all electric SUV." + }, + { + "start": 32.0, + "end": 51.0, + "text": " The Tesla Model X arrived in 2016. The Mercedes-Benz EQS SUV and RIVian R1S are also available. But those three models are significantly more money than the EV9 which starts at $54,900." + }, + { + "start": 51.0, + "end": 69.0, + "text": " That price is more in line with the Tesla Model Y which has minuscule third row seats but really isn't suitable for adults. So just getting that out of the way. Kelly let's turn to you and really talk about what exactly is the EV9." + }, + { + "start": 69.0, + "end": 82.0, + "text": " The EV9 is a mid-sized three row SUV. Similar in size. It's really kind of the EV version of the Kia Telluride. 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And even some of the day to day things though." + }, + { + "start": 484.0, + "end": 499.0, + "text": " We found to be a little bit, a little bit wonky. I mean, the climate controls are pretty bad. The seat heaters and the heat is steering wheel buttons are on the door, which you will get used to turn the car on. Did you figure that out?" + }, + { + "start": 499.0, + "end": 516.0, + "text": " Imagine that. Right. Yeah. I think you were being maybe even a little generous with saying, you know, that the climate controls were a little wonky. I think they're pretty bad. Right. So there's very few physical buttons to control the climate. Right. Anything you want to do, you have to go into the touchscreen. 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So they don't look like buttons right the whole panel kind of moves when you push them." + }, + { + "start": 678.0, + "end": 693.0, + "text": " That kind of it looks nice, but isn't super practical again, you find yourself almost using that as an anchor to rest your wrist on while you're using that touch screen. But then on Venox to you, you just pushed some of those buttons that were embedded behind the piece of plastic." + }, + { + "start": 693.0, + "end": 722.0, + "text": " Yep, you know, a dazzling in a in a boardroom or design studio, not so practical on a day to day basis. Right. Right. Maybe it looks pretty, but using it might run into trouble. Right. Well, this and these these are our our first impressions of the of the EV 9 and and check out sweet Johnny links got a great first drive article consumer reports dot org and definitely check back as we complete our full roster of over 50 tests that we're going to do on this vehicle as we do on." + }, + { + "start": 722.0, + "end": 735.0, + "text": " Every vehicle here at consumer reports auto test center as you know everyone wants to talk about EVs and we are testing all of them that are out there, which brings us to our audience questions." + }, + { + "start": 735.0, + "end": 751.0, + "text": " We love your questions keep coming emails 30 second videos send them all to talking cars at iCloud dot com that's talking cars at iCloud dot com. And first up is Vincent from Valley stream New York who writes." + }, + { + "start": 751.0, + "end": 763.0, + "text": " I own a 2020 Toyota RAV4 XSE hybrid that came equipped with Dunlop Grand Tech P2 20 tires at that time I was getting close to 41 miles per gallon." + }, + { + "start": 763.0, + "end": 774.0, + "text": " The Dunlops were out at 24,000 miles after doing research with consumer reports. I decided to replace these tires with general Ultimax 365 AW." + }, + { + "start": 774.0, + "end": 786.0, + "text": " These tires have a 60,000 mile warranty, but unfortunately my miles per gallon only hits 36 miles per gallon now. Are there hybrid specific tires for hybrid vehicles?" + }, + { + "start": 786.0, + "end": 801.0, + "text": " So as as most of talking cars audience knows we have a very robust tire test program and Joe I know you checked in with Ryan Pizzlekowski for an expert answer." + }, + { + "start": 801.0, + "end": 816.0, + "text": " Correct. There isn't exactly hybrid specific tires, but there are low rolling resistance tires and there are tires marketed for EVs that are low rolling resistance as for you know better fuel economy as well as noise reduction." + }, + { + "start": 816.0, + "end": 824.0, + "text": " That being said those tires come with compromises those would be shallower tread depth, an overall light or tire to be more efficient." + }, + { + "start": 824.0, + "end": 834.0, + "text": " The tires that Vincent has those are all weather tires those are going to have a deeper tread they're going to have they may be softer they're more catered towards inclement weather." + }, + { + "start": 834.0, + "end": 843.0, + "text": " So you're going to lose rolling resistance as well as efficiency he may maintain that 60,000 mile or that longer tread life, but it all comes as a compromise." + }, + { + "start": 843.0, + "end": 855.0, + "text": " So what he needs to look at is go look at you know our ratings look at what's a 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our tire information all the talking cars fans out there replacing tires check out our stuff it's really good next question we have is John from Vermont who writes this past June I purchased a new Silverado 1500 crew cab and I love the truck." + }, + { + "start": 911.0, + "end": 930.0, + "text": " This past November the IIS updated its safety ratings for the truck with new test results and the news is not good especially with a three year old in the truck with me and the moderate overlap crash test that was updated is the kind I'm most likely to experience in our rule area with many two lane roads." + }, + { + "start": 930.0, + "end": 949.0, + "text": " My wife is pushing me to sell the truck and get something safer if I do make the change trucks are out given the other trucks results so I'm playing with the idea of a new small slash mid size SUV or minivan or use Volvo or Audi what do you think about all of this." + }, + { + "start": 949.0, + "end": 971.5, + "text": " So I'm going to 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in Vermont just in general." + }, + { + "start": 1106.5, + "end": 1135.5, + "text": " I think I would I would definitely I feel like if you put efficiency aside I feel like just the capability of the truck as well as if you have a crew cab you can fit you know four or five people in the vehicle you can get everything you need to get done done whether it's safely or not obviously with higher standards that there are that that's not the case but yeah I would find myself driving a pickup truck in that circumstance right but but I mean we should probably have dock M's here to talk about you." + }, + { + "start": 1136.5, + "end": 1165.5, + "text": " You know child safety and you know as a pickup truck the best place to put a child safety seat and stuff like that right and you know we acknowledge that pickup trucks of the last 20 years have gone from being almost primarily work trucks works you know trade trucks to being family vehicles right they have higher trim lines there's lots of fancy 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Okay. Audi has some models that did well in consumer reports testing. However one of the studies that we did was called cost of ownership once the warranty is over for a lot of these German models like Audi BMW Mercedes-Benz it costs a lot of money to maintain the car after warranty." + }, + { + "start": 1217.5, + "end": 1232.5, + "text": " I'm just bringing that up because he mentioned Volvo, he mentioned Audi and you know so I guess you know John if you're listening go to consumer reports dot morgue and check out our ratings for SUVs." + }, + { + "start": 1232.5, + "end": 1261.5, + "text": " You mentioned a three year old doesn't mention how many other kids he might have you know does do you need three year old seedings for example but and with every vehicle that consumer reports tests we do child safety seats fits and boosters and all that stuff so so again the answer is just go to consumer reports dot org and and some of us are just a little jealous that John gets to live in Vermont because it's so beautiful one of my favorite states." + }, + { + "start": 1261.5, + "end": 1287.5, + "text": " So that will about do it for this episode which was produced of course by super producer Dave Abrams and expertly edited by Andrew I still play hockey believes and Anatoli the great shumski as always check the show notes for more information on the vehicles and topics that we discussed just a reminder keep your questions coming to talking cars at iCloud dot com. 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But they're perelie scorpions, but they're specially made for the" + }, + { + "start": 1191.24, + "end": 1196.76, + "text": " cyber truck. And this is not something you can just go down to pet boys or or I Lee or AutoZone to" + }, + { + "start": 1196.76, + "end": 1201.88, + "text": " pick up at this point. We had some issues with the vehicle recently. One of our drivers got into" + }, + { + "start": 1201.88, + "end": 1206.8400000000001, + "text": " go to work and all of a sudden, a bunch of error messages popped up on the screen. And it's sort" + }, + { + "start": 1206.8400000000001, + "end": 1213.24, + "text": " of now feeling like, huh, is there, you know, but it's important for folks who haven't, who might" + }, + { + "start": 1213.24, + "end": 1218.6000000000001, + "text": " not, who might be watching this podcast, who don't know what consumer reports is all about. 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Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1296.3600000000001, + "end": 1302.1200000000001, + "text": " I mean, let me talk about reliability for, for a sec, you know, and it's, it's, it's strange when" + }, + { + "start": 1302.1200000000001, + "end": 1307.16, + "text": " it comes to Tesla, like, you know, I mean, for consumer reports, we have certain judgments about" + }, + { + "start": 1307.16, + "end": 1313.48, + "text": " this reliability, you know, and you probably've heard, you may hear more about what other people say" + }, + { + "start": 1313.48, + "end": 1318.1200000000001, + "text": " to consumer reports says about it. So I want to just take the chance of talking about it. So," + }, + { + "start": 1318.1200000000001, + "end": 1322.44, + "text": " so reliability, yes, it doesn't really matter what happens to our specific vehicle, whether" + }, + { + "start": 1322.44, + "end": 1328.44, + "text": " that's problem-free or we have a lot of problems with it, it all has to do with the survey. 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We'll update. If you want to learn more about it, we have a first drive review that's" + }, + { + "start": 1734.68, + "end": 1740.0400000000002, + "text": " up at CR.org. If you sign up for our newsletter, we'll we'll keep you updated when we have more" + }, + { + "start": 1740.04, + "end": 1747.08, + "text": " information on it. We're going to have a ton of other videos and other social media posts about it" + }, + { + "start": 1747.08, + "end": 1752.12, + "text": " as we have it. And then it's going to go into the, it's going to go into tests. And we're going to" + }, + { + "start": 1752.12, + "end": 1757.96, + "text": " be very quiet for a while. And then all of a sudden, we'll add more information. So stay tuned. And if" + }, + { + "start": 1757.96, + "end": 1763.72, + "text": " you have any questions about cyber trucks, about Tesla, about our testing procedure, any of that" + }, + { + "start": 1763.72, + "end": 1768.52, + "text": " stuff, please send it to us. We love to, we love to answer questions. Send them to us at talking" + }, + { + "start": 1768.52, + "end": 1774.6, + "text": " cars at iCloud.com. Another reason to send us a question, if we use it on the show, you're going" + }, + { + "start": 1774.6, + "end": 1781.24, + "text": " to get some swag, which is awesome. Some CR swag that you can wear places. And so our first question" + }, + { + "start": 1781.24, + "end": 1786.84, + "text": " comes from Phil from Maine, your unbiased reviews are what I value most about consumer reports. And I" + }, + { + "start": 1786.84, + "end": 1792.6, + "text": " love that you remind listeners often that you purchase all the vehicles anonymously. But I have to" + }, + { + "start": 1792.6, + "end": 1798.9199999999998, + "text": " wonder how many different wigs and fake mustache combinations does Mike Quincy own in order to" + }, + { + "start": 1798.9199999999998, + "end": 1803.8799999999999, + "text": " accomplish this. Isn't your staff recognizable at all the local dealerships when you purchase so" + }, + { + "start": 1803.8799999999999, + "end": 1808.76, + "text": " many cars each year when you put the consumer reports address as the owner address. And a special" + }, + { + "start": 1808.76, + "end": 1814.84, + "text": " thank you to whoever on the staff has to go through that car buying process so often. Well, Phil, we're" + }, + { + "start": 1814.84, + "end": 1820.52, + "text": " answering your question this, this week because Gabe Shenhar is the, the, the sort of the man behind" + }, + { + "start": 1820.52, + "end": 1825.48, + "text": " the curtain with these. And that reminds me, I have an assignment to the car that I have to buy." + }, + { + "start": 1825.48, + "end": 1831.0, + "text": " And I'm not going to say what it is. 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But for the most parts, not even an issue. And," + }, + { + "start": 1873.32, + "end": 1879.9599999999998, + "text": " not to the question about revealing who we are. I mean, you are the whole process is anonymous." + }, + { + "start": 1880.4399999999998, + "end": 1888.6, + "text": " The, the buyers that I assigned to buy cars deal with dealers on their own email or" + }, + { + "start": 1889.7199999999998, + "end": 1893.8, + "text": " private phone. And let me just say that's actually a good tip for buying a car anyways." + }, + { + "start": 1894.52, + "end": 1899.7199999999998, + "text": " Start over email and also create another email address because you're going to get a lot of emails." + }, + { + "start": 1899.72, + "end": 1902.84, + "text": " You're going to get a ton of marketing material. But anyhow, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1902.84, + "end": 1909.56, + "text": " Subtribes. Yeah. 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It the car cost a thousand dollars more and you have to buy an extended" + }, + { + "start": 1998.28, + "end": 2003.72, + "text": " warranty. So obviously, they don't care who we are. They try to rip us off just as well." + }, + { + "start": 2003.72, + "end": 2009.1599999999999, + "text": " It's actually that was a fun, that was a fun experience. By the way, walking away, by the time I got" + }, + { + "start": 2009.16, + "end": 2013.24, + "text": " to the car, they were running after me and we sold it, you know, the car, the car was now" + }, + { + "start": 2013.24, + "end": 2019.5600000000002, + "text": " a car wearing the free teacher we send you. They have a good thing. You're a secret shop." + }, + { + "start": 2019.5600000000002, + "end": 2025.48, + "text": " All right. Heat just doing a really, really bad job. Yeah. But in all seriousness, if I show up" + }, + { + "start": 2025.48, + "end": 2030.0400000000002, + "text": " at a car dealership, wearing a seat of that, that would be, I'd get a talking to it at the very" + }, + { + "start": 2030.0400000000002, + "end": 2036.0400000000002, + "text": " least. That would be very, that would be very incompatible with my employment here, I think." + }, + { + "start": 2036.04, + "end": 2041.96, + "text": " Sure. Yeah. Cool. All right. Thanks for the question Phil. Kurt with a K has a question." + }, + { + "start": 2041.96, + "end": 2048.68, + "text": " Thanks for all the info in your in the October, 2024 issue of your magazine regarding the safest car." + }, + { + "start": 2048.68, + "end": 2054.44, + "text": " Only puzzlement for me was the total absence of Subaru models in the list given and then past articles." + }, + { + "start": 2054.44, + "end": 2058.2, + "text": " You've praised Subaru for safety features. 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And again, again, from you guys, from a dynamic standpoint, is you have a lot of instant power." + }, + { + "start": 1959.6, + "end": 1968.6, + "text": " How many times, and I've said it on this show, that you get wheels spin on the front wheels, you know, at certain locations around here when it's raining or when it's wet." + }, + { + "start": 1968.6, + "end": 1974.6, + "text": " If that instant power, which we'll say, again, stability control changes the whole equation." + }, + { + "start": 1974.6, + "end": 1979.6, + "text": " But would that be a riskier instant power at the rear with an electric?" + }, + { + "start": 1979.6, + "end": 1984.6, + "text": " It could be for two reasons. One, it's stability control, traction control aren't perfect." + }, + { + "start": 1984.6, + "end": 1990.6, + "text": " And they're not always instantaneous. 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Well, Andy, hopefully that answers your question." + }, + { + "start": 2015.6, + "end": 2021.6, + "text": " That's going to do it for this episode. If you want to learn more about the cars and the topics we talked about, you can click on the links in the show notes." + }, + { + "start": 2021.6, + "end": 2026.6, + "text": " Don't forget to send those questions, comments, 30 second video clips of talking cars at iCloud.com." + }, + { + "start": 2026.6, + "end": 2027.6, + "text": " Thanks so much, Sharon." + }, + { + "start": 2027.6, + "end": 2030.6, + "text": " That's right. Get your T-shirt, your T-shirt, your T-shirt." + }, + { + "start": 2030.6, + "end": 2032.6, + "text": " If you have your question, it gets used." + }, + { + "start": 2032.6, + "end": 2036.6, + "text": " Yeah, so that's going to do it for this episode. 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And I think that also kind of that you're talking about" + }, + { + "start": 710.92, + "end": 716.36, + "text": " that connection to the car and you were talking about the look that being able to customize things," + }, + { + "start": 716.36, + "end": 721.96, + "text": " the union jacks. But I think the cars become a little more livable at least. I mean, my first" + }, + { + "start": 721.96, + "end": 727.64, + "text": " experiences in many, I was looking for a, you know, got a new job. It was the first generation." + }, + { + "start": 727.64, + "end": 731.5600000000001, + "text": " Many I had had to commute. I was looking for something fuel efficient. So I went to a mini dealer" + }, + { + "start": 731.5600000000001, + "end": 736.36, + "text": " in Peebody, Massachusetts. And the, and the salesperson on the test drive at me was yelling at me" + }, + { + "start": 736.36, + "end": 740.6, + "text": " that I wasn't driving it hard enough. You just kept screaming. 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And" + }, + { + "start": 815.8000000000001, + "end": 821.0, + "text": " unfortunately, the other things that have changed on it make it a little harder to live with every day." + }, + { + "start": 821.0, + "end": 825.24, + "text": " Yeah. Yeah. There's there is that interesting and we're going to look into this. There's that" + }, + { + "start": 825.24, + "end": 829.6400000000001, + "text": " and the other many had the same thing that interior camera that's supposed to be for selfies. But" + }, + { + "start": 830.4399999999999, + "end": 835.0, + "text": " I don't know. It might be able to what is it looking at? We're going to find out, right? Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 835.0, + "end": 839.8, + "text": " Yeah. It's insane. There's quite a lot of vehicles now that have cameras in for selfies," + }, + { + "start": 839.8, + "end": 848.6, + "text": " for zoom, or TikTok. Yeah. So we'll look into that. All right. So the mini, we have a long," + }, + { + "start": 848.6, + "end": 853.96, + "text": " longer first drive of a very small car. And we're going to keep an eye on minis. They kind of" + }, + { + "start": 853.96, + "end": 858.68, + "text": " transition as a brand. There's an electric version that's coming. We're definitely going to try that." + }, + { + "start": 858.68, + "end": 863.4, + "text": " We just bought the electric actually you and I just bought the electric countryman." + }, + { + "start": 864.1999999999999, + "end": 868.8399999999999, + "text": " So we're going to kind of be looking at the new mini brand from all angles as they go forward" + }, + { + "start": 869.8, + "end": 876.28, + "text": " in a world without stick shifts and with batteries for better worse than in between. So head over" + }, + { + "start": 876.28, + "end": 883.0, + "text": " to CR.org. Search for the mini Cooper S review. So away from the mini and onto your questions," + }, + { + "start": 883.0, + "end": 890.12, + "text": " which you have sent to us at CR.org slash talking cars that CR.org slash talking cars." + }, + { + "start": 890.12, + "end": 895.64, + "text": " If you send us a question there and you use it, this is a new thing we're doing. We send you swag." + }, + { + "start": 895.64, + "end": 900.12, + "text": " So you see people are wearing like stuff with CR on it. I mean, we're not going to send that." + }, + { + "start": 900.12, + "end": 903.32, + "text": " That's kind of nice. But we're going to send you some cool stuff. We're going to send you some" + }, + { + "start": 903.32, + "end": 909.08, + "text": " cool stuff. So the first person who's going to get something in the mail sent to them," + }, + { + "start": 909.08, + "end": 915.8000000000001, + "text": " some CR swag is Rick from Chesapeake, Virginia, who asks, my iPhone 8 Plus has served me well for" + }, + { + "start": 915.8000000000001, + "end": 920.5200000000001, + "text": " about seven years now. But I'm also learning that updates to apps won't be available in the future." + }, + { + "start": 921.1600000000001, + "end": 926.0400000000001, + "text": " Happens. So that makes me think of how cars are using electronics so much more, especially in" + }, + { + "start": 926.0400000000001, + "end": 933.48, + "text": " display screens, in HVAC, climate controls. I know that CR surveys focus on engine and transmission" + }, + { + "start": 933.72, + "end": 940.2, + "text": " issues. 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Yeah, it's really interesting because like at the same time, yeah," + }, + { + "start": 1005.0, + "end": 1010.92, + "text": " there are these two there's this tension between like yes, we're eventually someday someone's" + }, + { + "start": 1010.92, + "end": 1017.24, + "text": " going to stop releasing software for it. But for now, your car might actually get better the" + }, + { + "start": 1017.24, + "end": 1021.56, + "text": " longer you own it because of the fact these updates are getting sent out. Yes. And then even on some" + }, + { + "start": 1021.56, + "end": 1027.1599999999999, + "text": " of the older systems, they may also be backwards compatible. So you could get Apple CarPlay put in" + }, + { + "start": 1027.1599999999999, + "end": 1032.12, + "text": " them as well. So yeah, remember a few years ago Mazda did that. You could just plug something in" + }, + { + "start": 1032.12, + "end": 1037.48, + "text": " and you know, you had to pay for it. 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Please do not send Tom a sweatshirt." + }, + { + "start": 1071.8, + "end": 1076.6799999999998, + "text": " He's just going to stuff it stuff it under the engine of the car. Mike, what what advice do we" + }, + { + "start": 1076.6799999999998, + "end": 1081.6399999999999, + "text": " get? Yes. So I would say Tom number one, don't add anything under the hood. There's always a" + }, + { + "start": 1081.6399999999999, + "end": 1086.04, + "text": " risk of fire. I'm going to get tangled up in belts and things like that. The move here, I would say" + }, + { + "start": 1086.04, + "end": 1091.0, + "text": " number one is just make sure that the exhaust on the vehicle is in good shape. You don't have any leaks," + }, + { + "start": 1091.08, + "end": 1095.08, + "text": " rattles from the heat shields and things like that. Subaru's definitely have a bit of a history of" + }, + { + "start": 1095.08, + "end": 1098.76, + "text": " that, especially up here in New England. 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You think my car is getting louder, it's getting old." + }, + { + "start": 1124.2, + "end": 1127.96, + "text": " You just need a new wheel bearing. So get that checked out. Same thing with all the bushings," + }, + { + "start": 1127.96, + "end": 1133.16, + "text": " the struts, all that kind of stuff. As they age, everything just sort of adds up. The equation is" + }, + { + "start": 1133.16, + "end": 1138.6000000000001, + "text": " not as good as it was when it was once new. Which to be fair in an older forester wasn't the quietest" + }, + { + "start": 1138.6000000000001, + "end": 1142.2, + "text": " car to begin with. It wasn't, but then you imagine you have a wheel bearing, you have a transmission" + }, + { + "start": 1142.2, + "end": 1145.56, + "text": " mount that's starting to sag. You're starting to get some vibration through the car on that. 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And just know" + }, + { + "start": 1242.52, + "end": 1247.8, + "text": " that it, you know, engine noise and you know, those boxer engines have that kind of note to them." + }, + { + "start": 1247.8, + "end": 1251.56, + "text": " Absolutely. And you know, the all wheel drive, there's more drivetrain components spinning" + }, + { + "start": 1251.56, + "end": 1255.4799999999998, + "text": " underneath the car. All that adds up to noise. Yeah. And if you want something it's truly quieter," + }, + { + "start": 1256.4399999999998, + "end": 1260.6, + "text": " I'm sure we have a list of the quietest cars at CR.org. 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That doesn't do, you know, um," + }, + { + "start": 1369.08, + "end": 1373.8, + "text": " keep to any good, right? If it's, if it's something that just isn't available to them. 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And I was like, I don't, I don't think" + }, + { + "start": 1522.76, + "end": 1527.8799999999999, + "text": " it's sustainable to take this particular vehicle, you know, there. Um, so, you know, buy something that" + }, + { + "start": 1527.88, + "end": 1533.48, + "text": " can be service locally with a lot of ease. And I mean, that's just sort of good tips for anybody." + }, + { + "start": 1533.48, + "end": 1537.24, + "text": " There's place in the US that are three and four hours from the nearest whatever dealership. And" + }, + { + "start": 1537.24, + "end": 1541.48, + "text": " it becomes a project to get your car serviced. And it becomes a project for us sometimes with some of" + }, + { + "start": 1541.48, + "end": 1546.68, + "text": " these newer electric brands. Yeah, where the cars are. They're two hours away. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1547.5600000000002, + "end": 1551.8000000000002, + "text": " So there's some advice. We don't have the perfect advice because we don't know the market that well," + }, + { + "start": 1551.8000000000002, + "end": 1556.92, + "text": " but, but, um, you know, keep an eye out and I'm sure you'll find something you like. But thanks for" + }, + { + "start": 1556.92, + "end": 1562.6000000000001, + "text": " writing to us and thanks. Thanks for watching. If you have a question, go to CR.org slash talking cars" + }, + { + "start": 1563.48, + "end": 1568.76, + "text": " and put in your information. If you have questions about infotainment, about minis, about EVs," + }, + { + "start": 1568.76, + "end": 1574.3600000000001, + "text": " about auto start stuff, what car you should buy and how not to start a fire under your hood. Any of" + }, + { + "start": 1574.3600000000001, + "end": 1578.28, + "text": " those questions in here, here, and we'll send you some stuff, which is great. So, Cassidy," + }, + { + "start": 1578.28, + "end": 1582.3600000000001, + "text": " thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me. It's been great. It's great. Definitely. And we" + }, + { + "start": 1582.3600000000001, + "end": 1586.1200000000001, + "text": " promise we'll bring you on for cars that aren't British because they're really, there aren't that many." + }, + { + "start": 1586.12, + "end": 1592.12, + "text": " Man, okay. 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Hey, who's that winner?" + }, + { + "start": 989.0, + "end": 990.0, + "text": " The winner." + }, + { + "start": 990.0, + "end": 994.0, + "text": " David, be a dolphins from Burlington, Vermont." + }, + { + "start": 994.0, + "end": 997.0, + "text": " Hey, that's where my wife was born." + }, + { + "start": 997.0, + "end": 998.0, + "text": " Really?" + }, + { + "start": 998.0, + "end": 999.0, + "text": " I don't remember." + }, + { + "start": 999.0, + "end": 1000.0, + "text": " No, you're lying." + }, + { + "start": 1000.0, + "end": 1004.0, + "text": " Well, David, a dolphins for having your correct answer chosen at random." + }, + { + "start": 1004.0, + "end": 1008.0, + "text": " From among the thousands, if not hundreds, of correct answers that we got," + }, + { + "start": 1008.0, + "end": 1013.0, + "text": " you're going to win yourself a free copy of the second Best of Kartark CD." + }, + { + "start": 1013.0, + "end": 1020.0, + "text": " And remember, Dave, the state of Vermont asks 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Who's this?" + }, + { + "start": 1316.0, + "end": 1317.0, + "text": " This is Ben from Philadelphia." + }, + { + "start": 1317.0, + "end": 1318.0, + "text": " Hi, Ben." + }, + { + "start": 1318.0, + "end": 1319.0, + "text": " How's it going?" + }, + { + "start": 1319.0, + "end": 1320.0, + "text": " Ben with one hand, huh?" + }, + { + "start": 1320.0, + "end": 1322.0, + "text": " Ben with one hand, make a name." + }, + { + "start": 1322.0, + "end": 1323.0, + "text": " Just checking." + }, + { + "start": 1323.0, + "end": 1324.0, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1324.0, + "end": 1326.0, + "text": " What, so anyway, what's the nature of your call?" + }, + { + "start": 1326.0, + "end": 1330.0, + "text": " Okay, two weeks ago, I went home for the weekend." + }, + { + "start": 1330.0, + "end": 1331.0, + "text": " I'm a student." + }, + { + "start": 1331.0, + "end": 1334.0, + "text": " I'm in Philadelphia, but I went home to North Jersey to visit my parents." + }, + { + "start": 1334.0, 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You're listening to Carrots, our national public radio with us clicking on the TAPIC Brothers." + }, + { + "start": 1843.0, + "end": 1849.0, + "text": " And we here to discuss cars, car repair, and lists like Franz and his brother Fred." + }, + { + "start": 1849.0, + "end": 1854.0, + "text": " I mean all these lists come around the internet and some of them are really very good." + }, + { + "start": 1854.0, + "end": 1857.0, + "text": " Here's one, Real Excuses Received by School Teachers." + }, + { + "start": 1857.0, + "end": 1860.0, + "text": " The whole list of things I picked out my favorites." + }, + { + "start": 1860.0, + "end": 1863.0, + "text": " Please excuse Roland from PE for a few days." + }, + { + "start": 1863.0, + "end": 1867.0, + "text": " Yesterday he fell out of a tree and misplaced his hip." + }, + { + "start": 1867.0, + "end": 1872.0, + "text": " Please excuse Ray Friday from school. 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+ "text": " persp you know subject day for each individual user's personal perception right so the user feedback" + }, + { + "start": 3196.04, + "end": 3204.04, + "text": " can give us a lot of input data very cool well surely thanks so much for jumping on and sharing" + }, + { + "start": 3204.04, + "end": 3212.12, + "text": " a bit about some of the ways that you're using data science ml and AI to help us get better" + }, + { + "start": 3212.12, + "end": 3228.04, + "text": " networking experiences yeah it's a great pleasure to chat with you Sam so have a good day thanks so much" + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/AI in the Classroom.json b/Transcipts_base/AI in the Classroom.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9f914b111534ce4b9121d3c4b1bf9cf9b6c09eab --- /dev/null +++ b/Transcipts_base/AI in the Classroom.json @@ -0,0 +1,1847 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 19.38, + "text": " Let's go back in time to the turn of a 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You just do it in the moment don't you?" + }, + { + "start": 1636.1399999999999, + "end": 1640.86, + "text": " So therefore it does require people to really think about these things and look at who they're" + }, + { + "start": 1640.86, + "end": 1645.6599999999999, + "text": " following, look at who they're retweeting and think is there something I could do to maybe try and" + }, + { + "start": 1645.66, + "end": 1652.6200000000001, + "text": " redress this balance a bit. Harvard psychologist Maserine Benaji. How do I sit in a meeting and decide" + }, + { + "start": 1652.6200000000001, + "end": 1659.5800000000002, + "text": " who is deserving of the promotion? 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And lastly business psychologist" + }, + { + "start": 1722.62, + "end": 1728.3799999999999, + "text": " Bina Candola with his wife has designed a phone app which helps people challenge the stereotypes" + }, + { + "start": 1728.3799999999999, + "end": 1733.6599999999999, + "text": " they hold about men and women at work. It takes five minutes a day you can do it on your mobile," + }, + { + "start": 1733.6599999999999, + "end": 1738.3799999999999, + "text": " it's as easy as we can make it and you have to do it for three weeks or so and we had an organisation" + }, + { + "start": 1738.3799999999999, + "end": 1744.86, + "text": " to say to us we can't imagine that senior leaders doing this we wouldn't do it and we thought well" + }, + { + "start": 1744.86, + "end": 1749.9799999999998, + "text": " actually this is really easy it's five minutes a day if they can't give up five minutes a day it's" + }, + { + "start": 1749.98, + "end": 1755.42, + "text": " nothing to do with ability is actually to do with their motivation. Basically what they're saying is" + }, + { + "start": 1755.42, + "end": 1763.58, + "text": " we could change but we can't be bothered. And there's the rub we have to want to we really should" + }, + { + "start": 1763.58, + "end": 1770.22, + "text": " be bothered women as well as men. Sexism is as vile as racism and it shouldn't have a place in modern" + }, + { + "start": 1770.22, + "end": 1777.18, + "text": " society. So next time you assume that a woman isn't competent until she proves otherwise just" + }, + { + "start": 1777.18, + "end": 1783.18, + "text": " slap yourself on the wrist. Realize that it's your reptilian brain talking and make a conscious" + }, + { + "start": 1783.18, + "end": 1788.8600000000001, + "text": " decision to act like a 21st century person not a caveman or woman." + }, + { + "start": 1797.5800000000002, + "end": 1803.02, + "text": " That was analysis. Now, Rian there's a massive backlog of this podcast. It's for expected" + }, + { + "start": 1803.42, + "end": 1809.58, + "text": " 2005 I think and it's for me it's really neat looking through these past episodes because" + }, + { + "start": 1810.3, + "end": 1815.02, + "text": " they sort of capture what it felt like to be living then you know it's about current events but it" + }, + { + "start": 1815.02, + "end": 1820.7, + "text": " doesn't feel irrelevant or obsolete because it's not just Newsy it's got this level of sort of thought" + }, + { + "start": 1820.7, + "end": 1825.58, + "text": " and reflection put into it. It gives you really useful context but if you're one of these people" + }, + { + "start": 1825.58, + "end": 1830.22, + "text": " a bit like me I get a bit scared by a massive fat catarole. Yeah, no it's true. The next" + }, + { + "start": 1830.22, + "end": 1835.18, + "text": " EPS coming up in this series of analysis they've got some great topics in that I'm looking" + }, + { + "start": 1835.18, + "end": 1841.42, + "text": " forward particularly at the one which looks at how to be an authoritarian dictator. Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1842.22, + "end": 1846.14, + "text": " That's ahead I think in the next three or four weeks. Right okay sort of a how-to." + }, + { + "start": 1846.14, + "end": 1852.7, + "text": " Yeah. Can I just suggest one from the back catalog just so that'll give you another" + }, + { + "start": 1852.7, + "end": 1857.66, + "text": " is it how to live with a different dictator? I give you a specific example of something so you" + }, + { + "start": 1857.66, + "end": 1861.5800000000002, + "text": " don't have to worry about 300 episodes or something you just go back and find this one. Like if you're" + }, + { + "start": 1861.5800000000002, + "end": 1867.02, + "text": " a fan of the assassination the current podcast from the World Service talking about the assassination" + }, + { + "start": 1867.02, + "end": 1873.42, + "text": " of Benazio Bouto Owen Bennett Jones who is the presenter of that podcast has an episode of analysis" + }, + { + "start": 1873.42, + "end": 1879.02, + "text": " from several years ago all about Pakistani religious radicals. That's great. That's all from us." + }, + { + "start": 1879.02, + "end": 1879.8200000000002, + "text": " See you next time." + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/Angela Kinsey & Rainn Wilson Go Deep! (That's What She Said) Soul Boom Ep 3.json b/Transcipts_base/Angela Kinsey & Rainn Wilson Go Deep! 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"end": 171.16, + "text": " Hey there." + }, + { + "start": 171.16, + "end": 175.0, + "text": " It's me, Rain Wilson." + }, + { + "start": 175.0, + "end": 177.44, + "text": " And I want to dig into the human experience." + }, + { + "start": 177.44, + "end": 180.48, + "text": " I want to have conversations about a spiritual revolution." + }, + { + "start": 180.48, + "end": 186.2, + "text": " Let's get deep with our favorite thinkers, friends, and entertainers about life, meaning" + }, + { + "start": 186.2, + "end": 187.72, + "text": " in idiocy." + }, + { + "start": 187.72, + "end": 195.96, + "text": " Welcome to the Soul Boom podcast." + }, + { + "start": 195.96, + "end": 199.32, + "text": " Thanks for coming on the Soul Boom podcast, Angela Kinsey." + }, + { + "start": 200.04, + "end": 202.32, + "text": " Thanks for having me, Rain Wilson." + }, + { + "start": 202.32, + "end": 205.32, + "text": " Did I meet you 20 years ago, almost?" + }, + { + "start": 205.32, + "end": 206.56, + 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Angela." + }, + { + "start": 403.72, + "end": 407.04, + "text": " Angela. Well done. Well done. But I've forgotten the word for" + }, + { + "start": 407.04, + "end": 410.06, + "text": " elephant. But what do you what do you remember about this Texan" + }, + { + "start": 410.06, + "end": 413.82000000000005, + "text": " family, Texan oil family? Yeah. You dad worked in the oil oil" + }, + { + "start": 413.82000000000005, + "end": 418.38000000000005, + "text": " industry in winter. Louisiana and Texas to go get oil out of" + }, + { + "start": 418.5, + "end": 422.34000000000003, + "text": " Indonesia. Yeah, he was a drilling engineer. And he was" + }, + { + "start": 422.34000000000003, + "end": 426.46000000000004, + "text": " transferred there in the 70s. It was very small expat" + }, + { + "start": 426.46000000000004, + "end": 429.62, + "text": " community at that time. Most of my friends were from all over" + }, + { + "start": 429.62, + "end": 435.94, + "text": " the world. And it was magical. 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Wow, for us person like Creed, yeah, like Creed, like" + }, + { + "start": 464.22, + "end": 469.02000000000004, + "text": " Creed, and I, you know, whatever, it I feel like the places that" + }, + { + "start": 469.02000000000004, + "end": 471.94, + "text": " we went to, we would go out to the Thousand Islands, Kapu" + }, + { + "start": 471.94, + "end": 474.02000000000004, + "text": " Lansari, boo. Is that where they came up with the salad" + }, + { + "start": 474.02000000000004, + "end": 479.5, + "text": " dressing? The sole American. That must be where my" + }, + { + "start": 479.5, + "end": 484.82, + "text": " person's from. Yes, I'm American. I'm American. Yes, an" + }, + { + "start": 484.82, + "end": 488.42, + "text": " Indonesia, they were like, what's going to dress? 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We are here at Soul Boom, you" + }, + { + "start": 815.74, + "end": 821.38, + "text": " know, we're trying to dig in to deep, beautiful, exquisite," + }, + { + "start": 821.38, + "end": 825.82, + "text": " wonderful, difficult, centrelating human conversations about" + }, + { + "start": 825.82, + "end": 829.98, + "text": " being human being. We have so much else in common. And I want a" + }, + { + "start": 829.98, + "end": 835.62, + "text": " segue to something else that we both have in common. And this" + }, + { + "start": 835.62, + "end": 840.22, + "text": " is a very awkward segue. But I think it's important. Life is" + }, + { + "start": 840.22, + "end": 844.3, + "text": " awkward. Life is awkward. Awkward pauses fill the office. So" + }, + { + "start": 844.3, + "end": 851.1, + "text": " let's go there. We both lost our fathers. 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And I got a little choked up, you" + }, + { + "start": 918.78, + "end": 922.8599999999999, + "text": " know, in the grocery store, it's just, it's, that's how grief is." + }, + { + "start": 922.86, + "end": 926.22, + "text": " It's it's always there. Yeah. It's always a part of you." + }, + { + "start": 927.62, + "end": 931.86, + "text": " When he feels like a wave, doesn't it? Sometimes I experience it" + }, + { + "start": 931.86, + "end": 937.42, + "text": " like just a wave. I was in my office not long ago and I was" + }, + { + "start": 937.42, + "end": 939.9, + "text": " thinking about something. Maybe it was a photo like on the" + }, + { + "start": 939.9, + "end": 943.82, + "text": " iPhone came up, you know, or something like something and it" + }, + { + "start": 943.82, + "end": 946.26, + "text": " triggered it. And I just started to cry. And it was in my" + }, + { + "start": 946.26, + "end": 949.86, + "text": " office. And then my assistant came by. 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So sometimes" + }, + { + "start": 1057.14, + "end": 1064.8600000000001, + "text": " when I miss him, I call and he answers the phone. Yeah. But" + }, + { + "start": 1064.86, + "end": 1068.54, + "text": " I'm so thankful like at the same time, you have this grief. And" + }, + { + "start": 1068.54, + "end": 1072.1799999999998, + "text": " then you have gratitude, you know, I think grief and gratitude" + }, + { + "start": 1072.78, + "end": 1078.2199999999998, + "text": " really go hand in hand. If you can just appreciate what you" + }, + { + "start": 1078.2199999999998, + "end": 1083.62, + "text": " had, the time you had, do we have Kleenex anywhere? Sorry." + }, + { + "start": 1083.74, + "end": 1088.02, + "text": " We're going to talk about dead dads. Talk about my dad. I'm" + }, + { + "start": 1088.02, + "end": 1090.4599999999998, + "text": " going to need a roll of toilet paper. Oh, you're really fine." + }, + { + "start": 1090.4599999999998, + "end": 1092.8999999999999, + "text": " It's not a makeup thing. I was just wanted to make sure that" + }, + { + "start": 1092.9, + "end": 1096.5, + "text": " you've had. He felt like, but don't leave that there as in the" + }, + { + "start": 1096.5, + "end": 1100.74, + "text": " shot weirdo. Hey, everybody, it's me, Rain. I want to share" + }, + { + "start": 1100.74, + "end": 1103.8600000000001, + "text": " something with you. I have gone through periods of my life where I" + }, + { + "start": 1103.8600000000001, + "end": 1109.14, + "text": " have felt a little bit lost in the chaos and the anxiety I" + }, + { + "start": 1109.14, + "end": 1112.5, + "text": " often am searching for some clarity. So I want to share something" + }, + { + "start": 1112.5, + "end": 1116.94, + "text": " really special. It's an app called Waking Up. This is founded by" + }, + { + "start": 1116.94, + "end": 1119.5, + "text": " the great Sam Harris. You've heard of Sam Harris. He's also a" + }, + { + "start": 1119.5, + "end": 1123.5, + "text": " neuroscientist and waking up is an incredible arsenal is the" + }, + { + "start": 1123.5, + "end": 1128.14, + "text": " best way to describe it of mindfulness, meditation, so many" + }, + { + "start": 1128.14, + "end": 1132.06, + "text": " resources for mental health, all grounded in secular techniques." + }, + { + "start": 1132.1, + "end": 1135.62, + "text": " And it has approaches baked into it that actually work. There's" + }, + { + "start": 1135.62, + "end": 1138.78, + "text": " so many different tools for my spiritual toolbox. And I really" + }, + { + "start": 1138.78, + "end": 1142.3, + "text": " can't recommend it more highly. Soul Boom listeners can get" + }, + { + "start": 1142.3, + "end": 1146.98, + "text": " their first month for free. Plus you'll save $30 on the in app" + }, + { + "start": 1146.98, + "end": 1152.1, + "text": " price. If you go to waking up.com slash soul boom, you can start" + }, + { + "start": 1152.14, + "end": 1156.18, + "text": " your free month today. That's waking up.com slash soul boom to get" + }, + { + "start": 1156.18, + "end": 1160.8600000000001, + "text": " a free month plus $30 off the chapter in your book where you" + }, + { + "start": 1160.8600000000001, + "end": 1165.78, + "text": " wrote about your dad. And that was so powerful for me, Rain. I" + }, + { + "start": 1165.78, + "end": 1169.42, + "text": " was so thankful you shared it because I think a lot of times" + }, + { + "start": 1169.42, + "end": 1176.5, + "text": " in grief sometimes you can feel alone in your grief. 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I'll be like, especially before we go on a big trip. I'm like, all right guys." + }, + { + "start": 2670.58, + "end": 2677.7799999999997, + "text": " And it's just newer to my husband and his sons. But they know that about me. Yeah. And" + }, + { + "start": 2679.54, + "end": 2685.38, + "text": " and hey, he married a Texan. He married what is that have to do? Come on. There are some people" + }, + { + "start": 2685.38, + "end": 2692.18, + "text": " in Texas right now that are like no rain. No. I am. There's no atheists in Texas. Sure there are." + }, + { + "start": 2692.18, + "end": 2700.66, + "text": " They're electrocuted. They are not. That's horrible. That's horrible. Yeah. But I'm definitely" + }, + { + "start": 2700.66, + "end": 2705.7799999999997, + "text": " between my husband and I. I'm the more religious person. Got it. Yeah. 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And kids are much more open to say if they've had" + }, + { + "start": 2794.9, + "end": 2800.6600000000003, + "text": " issues with anxiety or depression. And and I'm thankful for that for this generation. I hope that" + }, + { + "start": 2800.6600000000003, + "end": 2807.6200000000003, + "text": " continues that level of just dialogue and and normalizing the fact that you know we all struggle" + }, + { + "start": 2807.6200000000003, + "end": 2812.7400000000002, + "text": " with different things. And when you struggle with something, you want to get the tools that help" + }, + { + "start": 2812.7400000000002, + "end": 2818.6600000000003, + "text": " you cope and help you deal with that. And whatever those tools are, that shouldn't be anything you're" + }, + { + "start": 2818.66, + "end": 2823.94, + "text": " you should be ashamed of. If you're if you needed any kind of help with anything else, you know," + }, + { + "start": 2823.94, + "end": 2829.54, + "text": " if you needed a math tutor or you know someone to help you like if you made the basketball team," + }, + { + "start": 2829.54, + "end": 2832.66, + "text": " you need someone to help you work on your basketball school. But you're talking about really" + }, + { + "start": 2832.66, + "end": 2837.46, + "text": " releasing that stigma around mental health that that is something you can and should get help with." + }, + { + "start": 2837.46, + "end": 2842.3399999999997, + "text": " Absolutely. And that we kind of all at certain points in our lives are going to need help with. 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You might feel" + }, + { + "start": 2919.46, + "end": 2925.94, + "text": " alone like you're the only person in this black pit that is feeling this way. Trust me, there are" + }, + { + "start": 2925.94, + "end": 2933.38, + "text": " millions that are feeling that way. Find a way to connect and and understand that people have felt" + }, + { + "start": 2933.38, + "end": 2937.78, + "text": " this way. They've gotten through it. They've gone through it and gone through to the other side" + }, + { + "start": 2937.78, + "end": 2944.18, + "text": " and gotten like you said tools. Yes. To help them get out of it. Yes. I think that's so important." + }, + { + "start": 2944.18, + "end": 2950.18, + "text": " I think that thing especially as we're getting older because we are rain, you're getting older," + }, + { + "start": 2950.18, + "end": 2957.7, + "text": " you're getting older. We haven't done anything yet. Are we going to do stuff? No, but as we get older," + }, + { + "start": 2958.66, + "end": 2964.4199999999996, + "text": " I just grow a beard over my jaw. Well, it's coming for me. I'm sure. I grow a beard. I'm going to" + }, + { + "start": 2964.42, + "end": 2976.02, + "text": " grow a beard. But as we get older, I just find it so important that people understand that not" + }, + { + "start": 2976.02, + "end": 2982.02, + "text": " only are they not alone, but that other people want to see them. They you know, people want to be" + }, + { + "start": 2982.02, + "end": 2988.1800000000003, + "text": " seen. Yeah. But to know that people want to see them. They want to help. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking" + }, + { + "start": 2988.98, + "end": 2995.22, + "text": " Arthur Brooks, happiness expert and whatnot. And he was talking about like get off your phones," + }, + { + "start": 2996.18, + "end": 3004.66, + "text": " phone detox, social media detox, looking people's eyes, touch, conversation, hug, high five in the room." + }, + { + "start": 3004.66, + "end": 3012.3399999999997, + "text": " It's so important to just humans thrive with dopamine and oxytocin released in the brain through" + }, + { + "start": 3012.3399999999997, + "end": 3017.3799999999997, + "text": " real connection, not the connection of a heart and a like and a thumbs up on the social media," + }, + { + "start": 3017.38, + "end": 3023.06, + "text": " which you are on way too much because you're constantly liking all my wife's posts." + }, + { + "start": 3023.62, + "end": 3030.5, + "text": " I'm not on it that much, but I love your wife's posts. I love first of all, she's just so" + }, + { + "start": 3031.38, + "end": 3038.82, + "text": " cool. She's just she's really cool and she's smart and she's funny and she travels and is well" + }, + { + "start": 3038.82, + "end": 3046.26, + "text": " read and she's a great writer and I just I just dig her. And now she's doing kung fu. She's studying" + }, + { + "start": 3046.7400000000002, + "end": 3051.78, + "text": " kung fu. She can totally she's practices with a sword in the driveway. She's gonna kick your" + }, + { + "start": 3051.78, + "end": 3057.3, + "text": " ass out of the aid. She's gonna drive with a sword. She's she's she's she's gonna totally kick your ass." + }, + { + "start": 3057.3, + "end": 3066.1800000000003, + "text": " Crouching tiger kill dragon kill bill. Crouching tiger kill bill. You idiot. You idiot." + }, + { + "start": 3066.1800000000003, + "end": 3070.82, + "text": " Rain by the way always calls my children. Hey, idiots. They love it. Yeah. They can't get enough of it." + }, + { + "start": 3070.82, + "end": 3074.1800000000003, + "text": " Yeah. Like what's up, idiots are like right. Rain, 20." + }, + { + "start": 3075.78, + "end": 3081.06, + "text": " They are a little slow. They are not. It's okay. It's okay to be you stop it." + }, + { + "start": 3082.82, + "end": 3087.94, + "text": " What about the old therapy? You've been you've been on therapy rodeo. Um you can you can talk to" + }, + { + "start": 3087.94, + "end": 3095.38, + "text": " me if you ever need someone to talk to. Really? Yeah. 325 an hour. 325 dollars. My therapist is 350." + }, + { + "start": 3095.38, + "end": 3104.1800000000003, + "text": " I'm giving you like a 10% discount. I'd be a great therapist. Only it'll be pretty weird. People" + }, + { + "start": 3104.1800000000003, + "end": 3111.46, + "text": " will be like, oh my you guys right to white is my therapist. No, dude. My friends saw went to a" + }, + { + "start": 3111.46, + "end": 3118.98, + "text": " therapist and he's like my therapist used to be the drummer for Devo. No. Yeah. Come on. I'm serious." + }, + { + "start": 3118.98, + "end": 3126.7400000000002, + "text": " Crack that whip. That guy is a therapist apparently. No. If I'm getting the instrument right," + }, + { + "start": 3126.7400000000002, + "end": 3131.78, + "text": " it made him in the bassist. I don't know. But um but someone from Devo is a therapist." + }, + { + "start": 3131.78, + "end": 3135.22, + "text": " I would totally go be a therapist, but that would be really weird for people to be like," + }, + { + "start": 3136.1, + "end": 3142.02, + "text": " dude, why is my therapist? Also, he doesn't like to say good morning and he won't say hi to me" + }, + { + "start": 3142.02, + "end": 3145.86, + "text": " when I come. I'm not aware about my weekend. He doesn't really read about my life. And he has a" + }, + { + "start": 3145.86, + "end": 3150.26, + "text": " pet monkey with one arm call back. This is called calling back. She comes from the world of improv." + }, + { + "start": 3150.26, + "end": 3158.82, + "text": " I do. I do. What do you think? Uh Dwight and Angela's family looks like speaking of family a little" + }, + { + "start": 3158.82, + "end": 3164.82, + "text": " fill up. Like how many kids do we have at this point? 10 years later? What is going on at shrewt farms" + }, + { + "start": 3164.82, + "end": 3169.06, + "text": " with us? I know everyone asks this question. Yeah. What do you think? Let's figure this out. I mean," + }, + { + "start": 3169.06, + "end": 3174.26, + "text": " listen, they started having kids a little later in life. How many kids do we have? I feel like" + }, + { + "start": 3174.26, + "end": 3179.94, + "text": " they've got like five at least minimum minimum. Yeah. Because they need. He just put her to work" + }, + { + "start": 3179.94, + "end": 3185.6200000000003, + "text": " to breed and so they need people to work the farm. Yeah. Yes. Straight up straight up free labor," + }, + { + "start": 3185.6200000000003, + "end": 3191.7000000000003, + "text": " free labor. Um, I like to think that would be a great montage. It's like seven kids all working the" + }, + { + "start": 3191.7000000000003, + "end": 3196.98, + "text": " farm. Like the one year old is I don't know like kicking something. Yeah. Yeah. The two year old is" + }, + { + "start": 3196.98, + "end": 3202.42, + "text": " this and the three year old is breaking. Yeah. Five year old is driving a tractor. You know," + }, + { + "start": 3202.42, + "end": 3210.98, + "text": " it just goes on and on. Um, I think, uh, I mean, I think they're happy. I do. Yeah. Um, I feel like" + }, + { + "start": 3210.98, + "end": 3219.94, + "text": " Dwight is still running the business center at the business park and um, I feel like Angela runs the farm." + }, + { + "start": 3220.82, + "end": 3225.38, + "text": " I do. Yeah. I think Dwight doesn't work as a paper salesman or doesn't have a flint anymore," + }, + { + "start": 3225.38, + "end": 3230.1800000000003, + "text": " but I think the landlord kind of thing. That's what I think. Maybe he owns half of scranton. I feel like" + }, + { + "start": 3230.18, + "end": 3235.14, + "text": " he's bought up things. He keeps seeing like, like, so he owns the business park and he's bought. Maybe" + }, + { + "start": 3235.14, + "end": 3239.46, + "text": " he probably owns the sign that says electric city. They have to charge him when they turn it on. I" + }, + { + "start": 3239.46, + "end": 3246.1, + "text": " think he probably, uh, started like, I bought like the laser tag in Poryam and some stuff like that or" + }, + { + "start": 3246.1, + "end": 3253.46, + "text": " like, uh, he's got paintball range. You know what? I bet there's shrewt escape rooms. Oh my god." + }, + { + "start": 3253.46, + "end": 3259.54, + "text": " There's a shrewt escape room. Shrewt escape rooms. Yes. Mose works there. Mose works at the escape" + }, + { + "start": 3259.54, + "end": 3266.2599999999998, + "text": " room dressed in his fear thing. Yes. Sive. Exactly. Blood coming out of this. And it. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3266.2599999999998, + "end": 3271.46, + "text": " And what if they're escape rooms that are unsolvable? Exactly. Exactly." + }, + { + "start": 3272.18, + "end": 3278.98, + "text": " There's like, then they end up on a true crime podcast. Oh my god. Uh, maybe Angela has a true" + }, + { + "start": 3278.98, + "end": 3285.3, + "text": " crime podcast trying to solve the murder of La Kauana County or something. I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 3285.38, + "end": 3288.6600000000003, + "text": " This Grant and Strangler. He has a Grant Strangler podcast. That's it." + }, + { + "start": 3289.86, + "end": 3295.46, + "text": " Toby hosts it. Oh my god. That's perfect. And he keeps having guests on that all think he's the" + }, + { + "start": 3295.46, + "end": 3301.86, + "text": " Strangler. Like, isn't that a little bit convenient? Yeah. Exactly. Toby Flinderson is" + }, + { + "start": 3302.6600000000003, + "end": 3309.46, + "text": " I think Dwight and Angela homeschool. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Maybe the higher someone from the office" + }, + { + "start": 3309.46, + "end": 3317.38, + "text": " creed to teach the children. Dwight would hire a creed. He's cheap. He's five bucks an hour. He's" + }, + { + "start": 3317.38, + "end": 3321.62, + "text": " available. And he gives him a shed to live in. Yeah. Exactly. And he'll teach the kid. All right," + }, + { + "start": 3321.62, + "end": 3327.54, + "text": " kids. Yeah. And hey, we're going to learn about the Ramones. He's like, God is guitar." + }, + { + "start": 3328.82, + "end": 3333.2200000000003, + "text": " I like to think of it though. It makes me happy. When people ask me, what do you think Dwight and Angela" + }, + { + "start": 3333.2200000000003, + "end": 3338.58, + "text": " are up to? Because I mean, I know you get that question. I don't know. That one always makes me happy." + }, + { + "start": 3338.58, + "end": 3342.98, + "text": " Angela Kinsey, thanks for coming on SoulBoom. Thanks for having me. I love you so much." + }, + { + "start": 3342.98, + "end": 3348.1, + "text": " Do we do it all? Do we get your list? No, but this is great. All right, buddy. I love you. I love you too." + }, + { + "start": 3349.7799999999997, + "end": 3351.62, + "text": " Thanks for watching, listening, whatever." + }, + { + "start": 3356.2599999999998, + "end": 3361.38, + "text": " So I want to answer some fan questions. Okay. They have an email address. Hello at SoulBoom.com." + }, + { + "start": 3361.38, + "end": 3366.1, + "text": " I saw your thing. You did a call to action. Angela is going to be here. So then your questions. 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" Mike, where did you have?" + }, + { + "start": 4129.820000000001, + "end": 4135.14, + "text": " I was going to go with what you did, but I went computer medical records EHR pacemaker." + }, + { + "start": 4135.62, + "end": 4137.58, + "text": " Laser and that is earliest to latest." + }, + { + "start": 4137.58, + "end": 4138.58, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 4138.58, + "end": 4140.740000000001, + "text": " So fortunately, Mike, not all of us." + }, + { + "start": 4140.740000000001, + "end": 4141.740000000001, + "text": " So sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4141.740000000001, + "end": 4142.740000000001, + "text": " Oh, did you all put the same thing?" + }, + { + "start": 4142.740000000001, + "end": 4143.740000000001, + "text": " No, no, sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4143.740000000001, + "end": 4144.740000000001, + "text": " I went." + }, + { + "start": 4144.740000000001, + "end": 4145.740000000001, + "text": " Oh, what'd you do?" + }, + { + "start": 4145.740000000001, + "end": 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+ "end": 4240.34, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 4240.34, + "end": 4241.34, + "text": " There's the only one." + }, + { + "start": 4241.34, + "end": 4242.34, + "text": " I have another one." + }, + { + "start": 4242.34, + "end": 4243.34, + "text": " Oh, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4243.34, + "end": 4244.34, + "text": " You want to do it?" + }, + { + "start": 4244.34, + "end": 4245.34, + "text": " Let's do it." + }, + { + "start": 4245.34, + "end": 4246.34, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4246.34, + "end": 4247.34, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 4247.34, + "end": 4251.58, + "text": " So 2020 survey by Cisco, what percent?" + }, + { + "start": 4251.58, + "end": 4252.58, + "text": " Song song?" + }, + { + "start": 4252.58, + "end": 4253.58, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 4253.58, + "end": 4254.58, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 4254.58, + "end": 4257.58, + "text": " You Alice might be too young." + }, + { + "start": 4257.58, + "end": 4259.82, + "text": " Who did the song song?" + }, + { + "start": 4259.82, + "end": 4262.82, + "text": " No, Cisco, the networking giant." + }, + { + "start": 4262.82, + "end": 4265.58, + "text": " Oh, that's what I'm about to say." + }, + { + "start": 4265.58, + "end": 4266.58, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 4266.58, + "end": 4271.66, + "text": " According to a 2020 survey by Cisco, what percent of medical devices are currently running" + }, + { + "start": 4271.66, + "end": 4273.34, + "text": " unsupported software?" + }, + { + "start": 4273.34, + "end": 4277.74, + "text": " That means the software they're running has no patches or updates available." + }, + { + "start": 4277.74, + "end": 4278.74, + "text": " 2020." + }, + { + "start": 4278.74, + "end": 4280.54, + "text": " And this is closest wins?" + }, + { + "start": 4280.54, + "end": 4282.1, + "text": " Oh, yes." + }, + { + "start": 4282.1, + "end": 4288.66, + "text": " Here we do prices write rules, so closest without going 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"end": 4327.14, + "text": " I'm so sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4327.14, + "end": 4328.14, + "text": " The quick dance." + }, + { + "start": 4328.14, + "end": 4329.14, + "text": " Is it 3.13?" + }, + { + "start": 4329.14, + "end": 4333.1, + "text": " It's 60% of medical devices." + }, + { + "start": 4333.1, + "end": 4335.860000000001, + "text": " That actually surprises me." + }, + { + "start": 4335.860000000001, + "end": 4337.740000000001, + "text": " Surprise you because it's low or high." + }, + { + "start": 4337.740000000001, + "end": 4341.620000000001, + "text": " I figured very few medical devices get software patches." + }, + { + "start": 4341.620000000001, + "end": 4344.02, + "text": " I guess it depends when you consider a medical device." + }, + { + "start": 4344.02, + "end": 4352.620000000001, + "text": " So it's an issue people talk about in cybersecurity a lot because things like a medical laser typically" + }, + { + "start": 4352.620000000001, + "end": 4357.860000000001, + 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" So you type A through Z." + }, + { + "start": 4449.46, + "end": 4455.3, + "text": " If you miss one you have to keep, you have to hit that letter to go on and we'll give" + }, + { + "start": 4455.3, + "end": 4456.78, + "text": " you three shots." + }, + { + "start": 4456.78, + "end": 4458.74, + "text": " Don't hit enter at the end because it resets the counter." + }, + { + "start": 4458.74, + "end": 4460.38, + "text": " The timer shows up when you hit Z." + }, + { + "start": 4460.38, + "end": 4461.62, + "text": " And we do have a leaderboard." + }, + { + "start": 4461.62, + "end": 4466.38, + "text": " We're gonna say that at the end but now there's a little pressure." + }, + { + "start": 4466.38, + "end": 4467.62, + "text": " Sometimes pressure gets to go." + }, + { + "start": 4467.62, + "end": 4468.62, + "text": " Now I need a caffeine." + }, + { + "start": 4468.62, + "end": 4469.62, + "text": " True." + }, + { + "start": 4469.66, + "end": 4471.46, + "text": " I was like I take your 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"end": 4520.5, + "text": " I wrote down 8.2 but that's a great first rep." + }, + { + "start": 4520.5, + "end": 4522.5, + "text": " Feel free to go two more." + }, + { + "start": 4522.5, + "end": 4524.58, + "text": " You might improve your time." + }, + { + "start": 4524.58, + "end": 4526.34, + "text": " I see detailed results though." + }, + { + "start": 4526.34, + "end": 4527.34, + "text": " What is that about?" + }, + { + "start": 4527.34, + "end": 4532.34, + "text": " I'm gonna look at the time between each letter and you can see where potentially you uh" + }, + { + "start": 4532.34, + "end": 4533.34, + "text": " seven point nine three." + }, + { + "start": 4533.34, + "end": 4534.34, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 4534.34, + "end": 4535.34, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 4535.34, + "end": 4545.02, + "text": " Six point nine." + }, + { + "start": 4545.02, + "end": 4547.3, + "text": " That's a big improvement." + }, + { + "start": 4547.3, + "end": 4548.3, + "text": " 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+ "end": 4582.94, + "text": " 5.97." + }, + { + "start": 4582.94, + "end": 4584.78, + "text": " I feel like pretty good about that." + }, + { + "start": 4584.78, + "end": 4588.299999999999, + "text": " So where do you think so right now we've got about 20 something names on the leaderboard." + }, + { + "start": 4588.299999999999, + "end": 4590.86, + "text": " Where do you think 5.97 would rank you?" + }, + { + "start": 4590.86, + "end": 4591.86, + "text": " Eighth." + }, + { + "start": 4591.86, + "end": 4592.86, + "text": " You're exactly right." + }, + { + "start": 4592.86, + "end": 4593.86, + "text": " Wait." + }, + { + "start": 4593.86, + "end": 4594.86, + "text": " What the hell." + }, + { + "start": 4594.86, + "end": 4595.86, + "text": " This is." + }, + { + "start": 4595.86, + "end": 4596.86, + "text": " These are some weird." + }, + { + "start": 4596.86, + "end": 4597.86, + "text": " One two three four five six seven." + }, + { + "start": 4597.86, + "end": 4598.86, + "text": " No you're nine." + }, + { + "start": 4598.86, + "end": 4599.86, + "text": " Sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4599.86, + "end": 4600.86, + "text": " The current eighth is 5.9." + }, + { + "start": 4600.86, + "end": 4601.86, + "text": " It's Doug D'Amero." + }, + { + "start": 4601.86, + "end": 4602.86, + "text": " He got 5.9 zero zero." + }, + { + "start": 4602.86, + "end": 4603.86, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 4603.86, + "end": 4607.74, + "text": " He got 5.97 so you're right behind him at number nine between Doug D'Amero and" + }, + { + "start": 4607.74, + "end": 4608.74, + "text": " so crispy media." + }, + { + "start": 4608.74, + "end": 4609.74, + "text": " Wow." + }, + { + "start": 4609.74, + "end": 4610.74, + "text": " Well played." + }, + { + "start": 4610.74, + "end": 4611.74, + "text": " I'd be interested in safe fasteners." + }, + { + "start": 4611.74, + "end": 4612.74, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 4612.74, + "end": 4613.74, + "text": " 10 seconds." + }, + { + 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4743.34, + "end": 4744.34, + "text": " OK." + }, + { + "start": 4744.34, + "end": 4745.34, + "text": " Don't get me." + }, + { + "start": 4745.34, + "end": 4746.34, + "text": " Question number one." + }, + { + "start": 4746.34, + "end": 4751.34, + "text": " Question number one, according to a 2020 survey by Cisco," + }, + { + "start": 4751.900000000001, + "end": 4755.1, + "text": " what percent of medical devices are currently running" + }, + { + "start": 4755.1, + "end": 4758.900000000001, + "text": " unsupported software, meaning no patches or updates" + }, + { + "start": 4758.900000000001, + "end": 4760.860000000001, + "text": " will ever be available?" + }, + { + "start": 4760.860000000001, + "end": 4765.22, + "text": " And it's prices write rules as per usual." + }, + { + "start": 4765.22, + "end": 4768.02, + "text": " Oh, so that means whoever we use as a rule" + }, + { + "start": 4768.02, + "end": 4770.860000000001, + "text": " should be right, maybe wrong." + }, + { + "start": 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Which we're just going to drop in." + }, + { + "start": 26.72, + "end": 28.400000000000002, + "text": " It's not what you expect." + }, + { + "start": 28.4, + "end": 32.4, + "text": " This is a special edition for the launch of BBC Sam." + }, + { + "start": 32.4, + "end": 33.76, + "text": " It's a celebratory edition." + }, + { + "start": 33.76, + "end": 36.239999999999995, + "text": " So, there's a whole bunch of returning podcasts" + }, + { + "start": 36.239999999999995, + "end": 37.92, + "text": " and a whole bunch of new podcasts." + }, + { + "start": 37.92, + "end": 39.28, + "text": " And we can talk about them all." + }, + { + "start": 39.28, + "end": 40.4, + "text": " Yeah, let's do that." + }, + { + "start": 40.4, + "end": 43.76, + "text": " Well, I think we've started the episode now as what I think." + }, + { + "start": 43.76, + "end": 44.879999999999995, + "text": " No, you should introduce it." + }, + { + "start": 44.879999999999995, + "end": 46.8, + "text": " Then I can put my head on." + }, + { + "start": 46.8, + "end": 49.04, + "text": " Yeah, put my podcasting house hat on." + }, + { + "start": 49.04, + "end": 49.84, + "text": " All right, let's rewind." + }, + { + "start": 53.84, + "end": 56.64, + "text": " Hello and welcome to Podcasting House." + }, + { + "start": 56.64, + "end": 58.4, + "text": " I'm Eli. This is Rian." + }, + { + "start": 58.4, + "end": 60.08, + "text": " Hello. 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I don't" + }, + { + "start": 1015.0, + "end": 1017.08, + "text": " Hangers or something on it, you know, but" + }, + { + "start": 1018.08, + "end": 1023.88, + "text": " Yeah, if you can go hold one of these things in your hand and feel you know because I mean as soon as you pick one of these things up" + }, + { + "start": 1023.88, + "end": 1025.88, + "text": " If it's what you want your brain is gonna start running" + }, + { + "start": 1026.1200000000001, + "end": 1028.1200000000001, + "text": " You're gonna start seeing it, you know" + }, + { + "start": 1031.32, + "end": 1036.2, + "text": " I like the keyboard. I like the way the mouth feels or maybe you don't and you want to look at something else" + }, + { + "start": 1036.2, + "end": 1041.08, + "text": " But you're buying a gift for numero uno on the same way you gotta go get your hands on it" + }, + { + "start": 1041.08, + "end": 1043.08, + "text": " You gotta get some experience with it because" + }, + { + "start": 1043.28, + "end": 1046.28, + "text": " Jay you settled on your laptop and you still got buyers" + }, + { + "start": 1046.28, + "end": 1050.0, + "text": " Rehorse about it and you're sitting here eyeball on one of these eye pads" + }, + { + "start": 1050.0, + "end": 1058.28, + "text": " Or one of these surfaces because you didn't quite fulfill what you were looking for I didn't and it's a it's a it's an awesome laptop" + }, + { + "start": 1058.28, + "end": 1060.28, + "text": " I just I want man" + }, + { + "start": 1060.8799999999999, + "end": 1068.32, + "text": " To set it up, I mean it's still like five or six steps right and and I've had many is not you just grab it and there it is" + }, + { + "start": 1069.52, + "end": 1074.08, + "text": " The battery life on iPads is insanely good" + }, + { + "start": 1075.56, + "end": 1079.76, + "text": " I mean you can't nothing stacks up to it. It's not it's not surfaces" + }, + { + "start": 1080.76, + "end": 1086.44, + "text": " Any of the definitely no laptop running windows windows still does not sleep well" + }, + { + "start": 1087.0800000000002, + "end": 1091.72, + "text": " Anything with an apple logo on it that battery life is nuts and if you hit the off button" + }, + { + "start": 1091.72, + "end": 1095.96, + "text": " I mean it's gonna be the same when you turn it on next. It's not like" + }, + { + "start": 1096.52, + "end": 1101.24, + "text": " Did my battery die while it was in my bag because that's why that lottery every day" + }, + { + "start": 1101.24, + "end": 1109.0800000000002, + "text": " And that's why the reasons for the reasons battery oh my old laptop with that because I would forget to put windows in" + }, + { + "start": 1109.3200000000002, + "end": 1113.3600000000001, + "text": " To shut it down rather than put it to sleep and then I pull it out and go oh it died" + }, + { + "start": 1113.36, + "end": 1120.24, + "text": " Am I supposed to be still the same thing? Yeah, and you totally busted me out because I'm sitting here looking at this page on the verge website the verge.com" + }, + { + "start": 1120.24, + "end": 1126.8, + "text": " And it's the best black Friday iPad deals and here it is. There's a 2021 iPad mini" + }, + { + "start": 1127.12, + "end": 1133.76, + "text": " Wi-Fi 64 gig and it's 20% off. It's normally 500 it's 400 right now you can get it at Target or Amazon" + }, + { + "start": 1134.56, + "end": 1139.76, + "text": " Not that's a total ad for that, but there you go, but there's there I mean hey, it's black Friday week" + }, + { + "start": 1139.84, + "end": 1145.52, + "text": " So there's deals on absolutely everything right now. I feel like we could have talked a whole hour about what we were talking about right there" + }, + { + "start": 1146.32, + "end": 1150.64, + "text": " So we can dig some other stuff up right here including this. Let me tell you" + }, + { + "start": 1151.36, + "end": 1156.16, + "text": " Jeremy do you if I asked you what could a car manufacturer" + }, + { + "start": 1156.96, + "end": 1163.12, + "text": " Locked behind a paywall or what kind of car manufacturer turn into a subscription service" + }, + { + "start": 1164.4, + "end": 1169.36, + "text": " Think about that for a second and I'll tell you what Mercedes the German auto manufacturer" + }, + { + "start": 1170.0, + "end": 1173.04, + "text": " Has put behind a paywall from Mercedes owners" + }, + { + "start": 1173.92, + "end": 1178.32, + "text": " I got you thinking I'll be thinking evil thoughts right exactly" + }, + { + "start": 1178.48, + "end": 1182.8799999999999, + "text": " We're talking about whatever is going on in your world if something's broken or something's not acting right" + }, + { + "start": 1183.2, + "end": 1186.72, + "text": " And you need somebody that desperately help you try to work through it Jeremy is here" + }, + { + "start": 1186.96, + "end": 1189.6, + "text": " I'll also accept your call and I'll be here as well" + }, + { + "start": 1189.6, + "end": 1191.84, + "text": " I'll watch while you'll figure it out and fix it" + }, + { + "start": 1192.32, + "end": 1199.36, + "text": " Also, you could talk with us about what's on your black Friday list or what's been handed to you mom or dad or grandma or grandpa" + }, + { + "start": 1199.4399999999998, + "end": 1201.4399999999998, + "text": " Nana whoever what's been handed to you" + }, + { + "start": 1202.32, + "end": 1210.3999999999999, + "text": " And to go buy for black Friday or for the upcoming holiday this is every day tech on MPB think radio with Jeremy Thompson" + }, + { + "start": 1210.9599999999998, + "end": 1212.4799999999998, + "text": " I am Jay white" + }, + { + "start": 1212.4799999999998, + "end": 1218.08, + "text": " Thanks for listening this morning. I gave you a tease about something that an automaker or I said German automaker" + }, + { + "start": 1218.24, + "end": 1220.0, + "text": " Mercedes is doing" + }, + { + "start": 1220.0, + "end": 1224.4799999999998, + "text": " They've come up with a subscription a paywall concept for part of their" + }, + { + "start": 1225.3600000000001, + "end": 1231.2, + "text": " Their product now they make cars right? So what could what from a car could go behind a paywall and look" + }, + { + "start": 1231.52, + "end": 1234.56, + "text": " There are other manufacturers in other parts of the world that may have been doing this for a while" + }, + { + "start": 1234.56, + "end": 1240.8, + "text": " But this is the first time I've seen it in man. I'm like that is evil and a fantastic idea at the same time" + }, + { + "start": 1240.88, + "end": 1242.48, + "text": " So Jeremy" + }, + { + "start": 1242.56, + "end": 1246.56, + "text": " The German auto manufacturer Mercedes has locked faster acceleration" + }, + { + "start": 1248.16, + "end": 1249.68, + "text": " In their cars" + }, + { + "start": 1249.68, + "end": 1254.24, + "text": " Behind an annual paywall that's $1200" + }, + { + "start": 1254.88, + "end": 1259.6000000000001, + "text": " So you can go fast and Mercedes, but if you want to go Mercedes fast sir" + }, + { + "start": 1260.48, + "end": 1262.0, + "text": " That'll be a $1200" + }, + { + "start": 1262.96, + "end": 1268.48, + "text": " Subscription service fee hundred bucks a month they go faster and the grand scheme of things if I've paid money to buy Mercedes" + }, + { + "start": 1268.48, + "end": 1271.8400000000001, + "text": " A hundred bucks a month ain't a big deal if I can really go zoom zoom" + }, + { + "start": 1272.88, + "end": 1274.88, + "text": " That's that's fair" + }, + { + "start": 1274.88, + "end": 1277.3600000000001, + "text": " I thought that like you were gonna ask me to guess" + }, + { + "start": 1278.1599999999999, + "end": 1284.0, + "text": " Um, I went dark dystopia with it in my head. I was like, I don't know air conditioning. Yeah, I did" + }, + { + "start": 1285.76, + "end": 1289.6799999999998, + "text": " That would be truly evil, but yeah, I did before the break. I did ask you" + }, + { + "start": 1290.3999999999999, + "end": 1295.1999999999998, + "text": " What you thought they might could put in there so I kind of blew that question right there, but holy cow, dude" + }, + { + "start": 1296.1599999999999, + "end": 1299.76, + "text": " Here's here's where we are with cars now. I mean like did the" + }, + { + "start": 1300.7199999999998, + "end": 1306.1599999999999, + "text": " The mechanism behind cars is completely changed man. This is a computer thing now. So yeah" + }, + { + "start": 1307.36, + "end": 1309.36, + "text": " Model of car ownership" + }, + { + "start": 1309.36, + "end": 1311.36, + "text": " Absolutely" + }, + { + "start": 1311.9199999999998, + "end": 1313.6, + "text": " Absolutely" + }, + { + "start": 1313.6799999999998, + "end": 1314.8, + "text": " But yeah" + }, + { + "start": 1314.8, + "end": 1320.0, + "text": " Mercedes is the latest manufacturer as they read the story now to to lock an acceleration" + }, + { + "start": 1320.3999999999999, + "end": 1325.6799999999998, + "text": " Increase add-on that lets drivers pay to access motor performance their vehicle is already capable of" + }, + { + "start": 1326.3999999999999, + "end": 1328.3999999999999, + "text": " the 1200 year" + }, + { + "start": 1328.8, + "end": 1333.9199999999998, + "text": " Subscription improves performance by boosting output from the motors by 20 to 24 percent" + }, + { + "start": 1334.48, + "end": 1341.04, + "text": " Increasing torque and shaving around 0.8 to 0.9 seconds off a 0 to 60 malprower acceleration" + }, + { + "start": 1341.44, + "end": 1343.44, + "text": " When in dynamic drive mode" + }, + { + "start": 1343.92, + "end": 1347.68, + "text": " The subscription doesn't come with any physical hardware upgrades instead" + }, + { + "start": 1347.68, + "end": 1350.72, + "text": " It simply unlocks the full capabilities that the car already has" + }, + { + "start": 1351.28, + "end": 1356.96, + "text": " Indicating that Mercedes intentionally limits performance to later sell as an optional extra" + }, + { + "start": 1357.52, + "end": 1360.96, + "text": " acceleration increase that's caps. 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Oh is that an annual fee also or is that just a payout right?" + }, + { + "start": 1416.16, + "end": 1419.52, + "text": " Because see if it was a payout right to unlock it and have it that'd be cool" + }, + { + "start": 1419.6, + "end": 1427.36, + "text": " But they went immediately for software as a service in a subscription form and I hate that like you know" + }, + { + "start": 1427.52, + "end": 1433.2, + "text": " I like the the 90s and 2000s when you installed a piece of software on your computer. 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Yeah, you're you're leveraged" + }, + { + "start": 1477.3600000000001, + "end": 1479.84, + "text": " Out there we are in into a Mercedes or" + }, + { + "start": 1481.28, + "end": 1486.72, + "text": " One other company another European automaker who's done this BMW sparked outrage" + }, + { + "start": 1487.52, + "end": 1491.68, + "text": " Just a couple of months ago by similarly charging $18 a month" + }, + { + "start": 1492.88, + "end": 1496.08, + "text": " For subscription in some countries for owners to use the heated seats" + }, + { + "start": 1496.8, + "end": 1499.1200000000001, + "text": " That are already installed within its vehicles" + }, + { + "start": 1500.08, + "end": 1504.32, + "text": " Just one of many features pay walled by the car manufacturer since 2020" + }, + { + "start": 1504.3999999999999, + "end": 1508.32, + "text": " So BMW has been doing this for a while they also also previously tried and failed" + }, + { + "start": 1509.12, + "end": 1514.48, + "text": " To charge its customers $80 a month to access Apple car play in Android auto" + }, + { + "start": 1515.2, + "end": 1522.96, + "text": " Features that other vehicle makers have included for free. 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We're just gonna take it out of your cars and BMW's like yeah, you know what" + }, + { + "start": 1544.08, + "end": 1548.48, + "text": " Maybe we can find that money somewhere else to come on back Apple car play and Android auto, please" + }, + { + "start": 1548.96, + "end": 1553.04, + "text": " So yeah, but that's interesting that it is so far Mercedes and BMW" + }, + { + "start": 1553.84, + "end": 1555.84, + "text": " and I'm shocked" + }, + { + "start": 1556.1599999999999, + "end": 1562.1599999999999, + "text": " That car manufacturers in the EU right which is which is bending Apple" + }, + { + "start": 1562.48, + "end": 1568.48, + "text": " Apple to its will right now with these usbc adapters right or usbc connectors" + }, + { + "start": 1569.12, + "end": 1574.9599999999998, + "text": " Uh, I'm surprised that auto manufacturers in Europe are the ones who came out with this" + }, + { + "start": 1575.28, + "end": 1581.4399999999998, + "text": " Uh, and not North America like I'm surprised this is a whole thing in North America right like because" + }, + { + "start": 1582.4, + "end": 1585.76, + "text": " North America is a place where this will be a thing like they'll totally" + }, + { + "start": 1585.76, + "end": 1588.88, + "text": " I mean, we're totally into make as much money off of everything as you possibly can" + }, + { + "start": 1589.44, + "end": 1591.44, + "text": " And over there is where they're like hey wait a minute" + }, + { + "start": 1592.0, + "end": 1593.28, + "text": " This seems a little" + }, + { + "start": 1593.28, + "end": 1595.28, + "text": " Upnoxious. Maybe you should walk this back" + }, + { + "start": 1595.76, + "end": 1597.76, + "text": " But anyway" + }, + { + "start": 1597.8400000000001, + "end": 1599.8400000000001, + "text": " I'm gonna assume it's" + }, + { + "start": 1599.8400000000001, + "end": 1602.0, + "text": " lobbyists that are uh" + }, + { + "start": 1602.0, + "end": 1603.52, + "text": " pushing against it" + }, + { + "start": 1603.52, + "end": 1606.8, + "text": " Cuz you know, Apple's got plenty of money to do that um" + }, + { + "start": 1607.44, + "end": 1609.44, + "text": " But I for one and very" + }, + { + "start": 1610.16, + "end": 1612.0, + "text": " Very happy that" + }, + { + "start": 1612.88, + "end": 1618.16, + "text": " Everything is gonna be usbc. Yeah, it's just gonna be easier that way" + }, + { + "start": 1618.72, + "end": 1624.64, + "text": " I have had a heck of a time explaining to a large number of people that" + }, + { + "start": 1625.2, + "end": 1632.56, + "text": " The charger on their phone that they used for the last 10 years is now in theory or doesn't charge their phone as well" + }, + { + "start": 1632.96, + "end": 1637.3600000000001, + "text": " It would just be easier if they all use the same cord that way we didn't have to risk" + }, + { + "start": 1637.84, + "end": 1644.6399999999999, + "text": " Messing on devices up or slow charging them or whatever because they'll all be on the same format. 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Thanks for calling us this morning and bringing that to our attention" + }, + { + "start": 2045.1999999999998, + "end": 2051.12, + "text": " You betcha all right have a happy thanks given holiday later this week all the best black Friday to you" + }, + { + "start": 2051.84, + "end": 2058.56, + "text": " I the one thing I haven't asked is if people are going to go out in black Friday shop or if they're going to do it all online" + }, + { + "start": 2059.12, + "end": 2065.68, + "text": " That's I mean more more people have are not going out although. I think maybe now like it there was such a crush physically" + }, + { + "start": 2066.7999999999997, + "end": 2071.12, + "text": " On that for a while that that everybody was like no thanks. 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If you've never listened to this podcast before, here's what we do." + }, + { + "start": 23.0, + "end": 27.0, + "text": " We bring you an episode of a different BBC podcast a couple of times a week." + }, + { + "start": 27.0, + "end": 36.0, + "text": " If you like what you hear, you can search for that podcast using whatever web page or app or service you're using right now and subscribe for more episodes." + }, + { + "start": 36.0, + "end": 40.0, + "text": " My name's Eli and I'm joined as always by Riegan. What have you brought with you today, Riegan?" + }, + { + "start": 40.0, + "end": 48.0, + "text": " I've got an episode of Blood on the Tracks. What is that? What is Blood on the Tracks? It's not an album. Well, it is an album by Bob Dylan." + }, + { + "start": 48.0, + "end": 51.0, + "text": " It is an album, yeah. 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Here is Blood on the Tracks." + }, + { + "start": 130.0, + "end": 138.0, + "text": " Hello everybody. Welcome to the first ever episode of Blood on the Tracks for BBC Radio 2." + }, + { + "start": 138.0, + "end": 142.0, + "text": " I'm Colin Murray, owner of a record collection that runs from Chef Baker to Cheryl Baker." + }, + { + "start": 142.0, + "end": 146.0, + "text": " And today I bring four music lovers together around the table." + }, + { + "start": 146.0, + "end": 152.0, + "text": " They're only gold to emerge on the other side with their record collections stacked higher than the others." + }, + { + "start": 152.0, + "end": 156.0, + "text": " Only one gets an encore. The other three will have the plug pulled." + }, + { + "start": 156.0, + "end": 163.0, + "text": " We'll do this through a series of random rounds that give our guests the chance to just take control of the music and let it bleed through your speakers." + }, + { + "start": 163.0, + "end": 168.0, + "text": " Now they wouldn't all naturally I don't think being a room together, but music makes them tick." + }, + { + "start": 168.0, + "end": 173.0, + "text": " So let's not waste any more time. I'm joined by one of Snooker's all-time rock and roll stars." + }, + { + "start": 173.0, + "end": 184.0, + "text": " He paints it pop black. He's Jimmy White. And beside him naturally, the BBC's religious affairs editor, whose idea of heaven is a least-grat-peri record." + }, + { + "start": 184.0, + "end": 191.0, + "text": " Martin Vichier is here. Let's throw in a role model, a DJ and a singer of a band who had an album called Paranoid and Song Byrne," + }, + { + "start": 191.0, + "end": 196.0, + "text": " which is what Jimmy White was actually in a trip to Marbella in the mid-80s with Kirk Stevens." + }, + { + "start": 196.0, + "end": 203.0, + "text": " Skin from Skunk and Ansey makes it three and the Balanced Outskins brilliance or APS completed." + }, + { + "start": 203.0, + "end": 209.0, + "text": " By a comedian writer and a presenter who simply has the worst voice ever known, demand, woman and child." + }, + { + "start": 209.0, + "end": 214.0, + "text": " He wanted to be Damon All-Barn but ended up with a voice of Damien from the Omen." + }, + { + "start": 214.0, + "end": 216.0, + "text": " Josh, Josh Wittigam is here." + }, + { + "start": 216.0, + "end": 222.0, + "text": " Now this is a first of four shows. 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I just know it's going to be a Rolling Stones." + }, + { + "start": 248.0, + "end": 256.0, + "text": " Yeah, it's Out of Control. I went to Holland to watch and play and I never get it was a real muddy day." + }, + { + "start": 256.0, + "end": 261.0, + "text": " And this was their opening song. Never heard it before and I listened to it all the time." + }, + { + "start": 261.0, + "end": 263.0, + "text": " Out of Control by the stars." + }, + { + "start": 264.0, + "end": 274.0, + "text": " I was food. I was angry. I was friend. I was chill. I was alone." + }, + { + "start": 274.0, + "end": 279.0, + "text": " Tell me how I would try." + }, + { + "start": 279.0, + "end": 287.0, + "text": " Now I'm out. I'm out of control." + }, + { + "start": 287.0, + "end": 290.0, + "text": " Now I'm out." + }, + { + "start": 290.0, + "end": 294.0, + "text": " Does it ever become normal, having Ronnie Woods as your best met?" + }, + { + "start": 294.0, + "end": 300.0, + "text": " You know, I've been friends with him as you know. Our kids are in the same play together at school." + }, + { + "start": 300.0, + "end": 303.0, + "text": " And I never fought for a minute that he knows anything about Snooker." + }, + { + "start": 303.0, + "end": 309.0, + "text": " But he loves it. 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really, really disagreed with the whole female vocalist thing." + }, + { + "start": 3521.1, + "end": 3523.1, + "text": " Where's Kate Bush? Where's Johnny Mitchell?" + }, + { + "start": 3523.1, + "end": 3525.1, + "text": " So you think I got to get you on the show again?" + }, + { + "start": 3525.1, + "end": 3527.1, + "text": " So have Colin, wait and see you call." + }, + { + "start": 3527.1, + "end": 3532.1, + "text": " If you'd like that search for Blood on the Tracks and probably tag BBC onto the end of it," + }, + { + "start": 3532.1, + "end": 3537.1, + "text": " don't get the Bob Dylan album and subscribe to it to hear future episodes." + }, + { + "start": 3537.1, + "end": 3540.1, + "text": " And if you're not subscribed to us yet, why not?" + }, + { + "start": 3540.1, + "end": 3544.1, + "text": " Do it now somehow. 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It's a fringe, ready?" + }, + { + "start": 1693.24, + "end": 1693.8, + "text": " Anyone?" + }, + { + "start": 1693.8, + "end": 1694.68, + "text": " Ready, ready?" + }, + { + "start": 1694.68, + "end": 1696.12, + "text": " Greenwave, thank you very much." + }, + { + "start": 1699.1599999999999, + "end": 1702.44, + "text": " I appreciate we've covered a lot of ground in this brainwaves," + }, + { + "start": 1702.44, + "end": 1707.08, + "text": " but with any luck, we've peaked your interest in what might keep you sharp." + }, + { + "start": 1707.08, + "end": 1710.68, + "text": " And the next time you boil the kettle, put off going for that run," + }, + { + "start": 1710.68, + "end": 1714.6, + "text": " or did the overweather to change job or even learn the tango?" + }, + { + "start": 1714.6, + "end": 1719.08, + "text": " You're mull over what that decision may or may not mean for your brain." + }, + { + "start": 1719.8799999999999, + "end": 1722.6, + "text": " A big thanks to associate professor Alan Gow from Harriet," + }, + { + "start": 1722.6, + "end": 1726.4399999999998, + "text": " what university for letting us eavesdrop on his work on how to stay sharp?" + }, + { + "start": 1726.4399999999998, + "end": 1730.9199999999998, + "text": " If you want to find out more or even volunteer to take part in some of Alan's research," + }, + { + "start": 1730.9199999999998, + "end": 1734.28, + "text": " then head to the brainwaves page of the BBC Radio Scotland website" + }, + { + "start": 1734.28, + "end": 1735.7199999999998, + "text": " where you'll find all the links." + }, + { + "start": 1735.7199999999998, + "end": 1739.6399999999999, + "text": " And if you missed any of today's programme, you can download the free podcast." + }, + { + "start": 1745.24, + "end": 1750.28, + "text": " So that was Brainwaves from BBC Scotland." + }, + { + "start": 1750.28, + "end": 1752.28, + "text": " I lived in Glasgow for a little while. You know that, right?" + }, + { + "start": 1752.28, + "end": 1753.24, + "text": " I didn't know that." + }, + { + "start": 1753.24, + "end": 1754.4399999999998, + "text": " Yeah, what were you doing there?" + }, + { + "start": 1754.4399999999998, + "end": 1767.3999999999999, + "text": " I was studying. I was there studying, while I was pretending to study a little bit." + }, + { + "start": 1768.36, + "end": 1772.12, + "text": " Anyway, that was presented by Penny Latin, and there are new episodes weekly," + }, + { + "start": 1772.12, + "end": 1776.04, + "text": " if you want those sweet Scottish accents in your ear on the reg," + }, + { + "start": 1777.0, + "end": 1781.56, + "text": " go subscribe to it, listen more episodes, and subscribe to us if you haven't subscribed to us already." + }, + { + "start": 1782.36, + "end": 1785.6399999999999, + "text": " Thanks very much for listening, and we'll see you next time." + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/Charles Leclerc_ Chasing Championships in Ferrari Red _ F1 Beyond The Grid Podcast.json b/Transcipts_base/Charles Leclerc_ Chasing Championships in Ferrari Red _ F1 Beyond The Grid Podcast.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..29377c14024bf7a9aa119494401d91236dccfd38 --- /dev/null +++ b/Transcipts_base/Charles Leclerc_ Chasing Championships in Ferrari Red _ F1 Beyond The Grid Podcast.json @@ -0,0 +1,1922 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 4.24, + "text": " Even if you don't have a title chance to drive for Ferraris an incredible honor," + }, + { + "start": 4.88, + "end": 10.72, + "text": " but to get the best out of me I need to believe in the project I'm in." + }, + { + "start": 10.72, + "end": 16.4, + "text": " And I have the full trust that I'm in the right team to make Red Bull and" + }, + { + "start": 16.4, + "end": 17.76, + "text": " McLaren struggle in the future." + }, + { + "start": 25.36, + "end": 28.48, + "text": " Welcome everybody to this week's F1 Beyond the Grid." + }, + { + "start": 28.48, + "end": 32.160000000000004, + "text": " And I am delighted to say that we're joined by Shalik Le." + }, + { + "start": 32.160000000000004, + "end": 34.64, + "text": " Shal? 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27.8, + "end": 28.8, + "text": " If you like what you hear," + }, + { + "start": 28.8, + "end": 32.92, + "text": " you can search for that podcast using whatever app or service" + }, + { + "start": 32.92, + "end": 36.6, + "text": " or web page you're using now and subscribe for more episodes." + }, + { + "start": 36.6, + "end": 40.4, + "text": " My name is Eli and I'm joined as always by Rian." + }, + { + "start": 40.4, + "end": 41.92, + "text": " What have you brought with you today, Rian?" + }, + { + "start": 41.92, + "end": 46.0, + "text": " I have brought you 20 Chinese characters" + }, + { + "start": 46.0, + "end": 48.28, + "text": " in a pot like what you want to share with the first one." + }, + { + "start": 48.28, + "end": 48.78, + "text": " OK." + }, + { + "start": 48.78, + "end": 49.8, + "text": " But this is the first." + }, + { + "start": 49.8, + "end": 51.92, + "text": " You mean the writing Chinese character, like, Cher." + }, + { + "start": 51.92, + "end": 52.44, + 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77.52, + "end": 78.36, + "text": " But I'm going to practice." + }, + { + "start": 78.36, + "end": 80.68, + "text": " I've got 20 apps to practice it." + }, + { + "start": 80.68, + "end": 82.92, + "text": " So who is this Wu Zitan?" + }, + { + "start": 82.92, + "end": 84.48, + "text": " She is the first." + }, + { + "start": 84.48, + "end": 85.24, + "text": " She." + }, + { + "start": 85.24, + "end": 86.44, + "text": " Yeah, exactly." + }, + { + "start": 86.44, + "end": 88.96, + "text": " She, you know Cersei and Game of Thrones?" + }, + { + "start": 88.96, + "end": 89.72, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 89.72, + "end": 92.08, + "text": " OK." + }, + { + "start": 92.08, + "end": 98.83999999999999, + "text": " That woman could murder her way through a whole family line" + }, + { + "start": 98.83999999999999, + "end": 99.91999999999999, + "text": " very inventively." + }, + { + "start": 99.91999999999999, + "end": 102.96, + "text": " And Wu Zitan had the same reputation." + }, + { + 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174.08, + "end": 178.76000000000002, + "text": " Emperor of China between 690 and 705 AD." + }, + { + "start": 178.76000000000002, + "end": 181.08, + "text": " Jiang Si Chi." + }, + { + "start": 181.08, + "end": 182.96, + "text": " What do we do?" + }, + { + "start": 182.96, + "end": 187.52, + "text": " She was the only woman in 2000 years of imperial history ever" + }, + { + "start": 187.52, + "end": 191.24, + "text": " to sit on China's throne as ruler in her own right." + }, + { + "start": 194.28, + "end": 196.84, + "text": " Hers is not just the tale of one woman's rise," + }, + { + "start": 196.84, + "end": 199.0, + "text": " the top of her own society." + }, + { + "start": 199.0, + "end": 202.28, + "text": " It touches so many themes that are central to understanding" + }, + { + "start": 202.28, + "end": 205.72, + "text": " the long sweep of Chinese history." + }, + { + "start": 205.72, + "end": 209.04, + "text": " Wuzhatian is our first Chinese character." + }, + { + "start": 209.04, + "end": 210.68, + "text": " Over the course of this series, we'll" + }, + { + "start": 210.68, + "end": 212.92000000000002, + "text": " hear the stories of women and men" + }, + { + "start": 212.92000000000002, + "end": 216.08, + "text": " who shaped the most populous country on earth," + }, + { + "start": 216.08, + "end": 218.92000000000002, + "text": " scenes that range from a far off time parallel" + }, + { + "start": 218.92000000000002, + "end": 222.12, + "text": " to the ancient Greek philosophers to the rise of China" + }, + { + "start": 222.12, + "end": 225.12, + "text": " in the past three decades as the world's second biggest" + }, + { + "start": 225.12, + "end": 226.76, + "text": " economy." + }, + { + "start": 226.76, + "end": 230.88, + "text": " Not all of our characters are famous or elite powerholders." + }, + { + "start": 230.88, + "end": 233.76, + "text": " We'll hear about the poor, sometimes nameless men" + }, + { + "start": 233.76, + "end": 236.64, + "text": " and women who shaped China too." + }, + { + "start": 236.64, + "end": 239.88, + "text": " And we won't always go in chronological order." + }, + { + "start": 239.88, + "end": 243.24, + "text": " I would have mixed up viewpoints and ideas across time" + }, + { + "start": 243.24, + "end": 247.12, + "text": " that tell us what has held China together over the centuries," + }, + { + "start": 247.12, + "end": 250.48, + "text": " continuity as well as change, often violent," + }, + { + "start": 250.48, + "end": 252.84, + "text": " and disruptive change." + }, + { + "start": 252.84, + "end": 255.51999999999998, + "text": " So that's why we're starting off bang in the middle" + }, + { + "start": 255.51999999999998, + "end": 260.48, + "text": " of the Tang dynasty, which lasted from 618 to 906." + }, + { + "start": 260.48, + "end": 263.32, + "text": " China's Haimetival period, and a time when" + }, + { + "start": 263.32, + "end": 266.52000000000004, + "text": " it's capital at Chang'an, the 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Campbell, president of USU." + }, + { + "start": 10.8, + "end": 19.76, + "text": " I'm the host of this podcast, which is called Future Casting with Utah State." + }, + { + "start": 19.76, + "end": 24.400000000000002, + "text": " Today I'm talking to Rachel Louise Snyder and Jill Anderson above what it takes to" + }, + { + "start": 24.400000000000002, + "end": 29.400000000000002, + "text": " successfully address sexual and domestic violence in our communities." + }, + { + "start": 29.4, + "end": 34.339999999999996, + "text": " Jill is the author of No Visible Bruses, but we don't know about domestic violence" + }, + { + "start": 34.339999999999996, + "end": 35.66, + "text": " can kill us." + }, + { + "start": 35.66, + "end": 40.4, + "text": " And the keynote speaker for the Northern Utah Conference to End Violence at USU's Logan" + }, + { + "start": 40.4, + "end": 42.7, + "text": " campus on May 29th." + }, + { + "start": 42.7, + "end": 47.8, + "text": " Jill Anderson is the CEO and 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You're going to watch your back out there for sure." + }, + { + "start": 1145.5, + "end": 1150.46, + "text": " And I feel my heart goes out to you and your colleague Shane because y'all" + }, + { + "start": 1151.18, + "end": 1156.3, + "text": " is one thing to have a cell phone because more people to be straight up, more people have cell phones" + }, + { + "start": 1156.3, + "end": 1161.82, + "text": " than they have computers. Yeah. And cell phones are more intimate and it's more on you. You're on it" + }, + { + "start": 1161.82, + "end": 1166.1399999999999, + "text": " more. You know, you got apps that say, oh, well, you've been on your phone this much less this" + }, + { + "start": 1166.14, + "end": 1172.22, + "text": " week than you were last week, whatever. But the cell phones when someone texts you, you're not" + }, + { + "start": 1172.22, + "end": 1179.3400000000001, + "text": " really even thinking sometimes, some folks may not be as wary. 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So to get your attention, they start cutting things off and sometimes network" + }, + { + "start": 1305.42, + "end": 1311.8200000000002, + "text": " could be one of them. Okay. Wow. So I can kind of go off of this. A lot of people are be like, I can't make" + }, + { + "start": 1311.8200000000002, + "end": 1317.66, + "text": " phone calls no more. Well, have you updated your phone in the past like seven updates and the answers" + }, + { + "start": 1317.66, + "end": 1324.7800000000002, + "text": " always know. No, always know. As very similar scenario as almost and immediately follow up to that." + }, + { + "start": 1324.7800000000002, + "end": 1329.98, + "text": " Shane, if I like the older model iPhones because of their size or whatnot and whatever I enjoy the" + }, + { + "start": 1329.98, + "end": 1335.5, + "text": " features of it, is it still safe and smart to use? Yeah, it's safe and smart to use. 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So yeah, that is still safe to use that phone or you can get one of those" + }, + { + "start": 1364.7, + "end": 1369.5, + "text": " phones. We feel you need a new one. Nice, nice, nice. Samsung don't have that option though, you know." + }, + { + "start": 1369.5, + "end": 1377.1000000000001, + "text": " Don't need to. So we go. Yes, but you're right. You're right. It is safe to continue to use that" + }, + { + "start": 1377.1000000000001, + "end": 1381.74, + "text": " phone. It just make it just keep doing the updates. Yeah. I mean, we always talk about like with" + }, + { + "start": 1381.74, + "end": 1387.82, + "text": " the computers. Everyone knows that like, you know, the longer that you go without updating it," + }, + { + "start": 1387.82, + "end": 1393.82, + "text": " the less safe that that computer becomes. So oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's the same with phones too. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1393.82, + "end": 1398.3, + "text": " Same with phones. We actually get emails at my job saying we need to update our actual like work" + }, + { + "start": 1398.3, + "end": 1404.3, + "text": " phones so they can't get infiltrated. Is the word they'll use? Yeah. Yeah. All right, Shane. So what" + }, + { + "start": 1404.3, + "end": 1410.7, + "text": " accessibility features do smartphones have for older generations? This is a bullet question." + }, + { + "start": 1410.7, + "end": 1418.46, + "text": " It is. It's a big one. Accessibility. Now, you know, it's more really in watches and stuff to" + }, + { + "start": 1418.46, + "end": 1422.8600000000001, + "text": " me like the smart devices I compare to your phone. Because Apple watches, Samsung watches," + }, + { + "start": 1422.8600000000001, + "end": 1426.78, + "text": " they all have like the fall detection. They have all those health features." + }, + { + "start": 1426.78, + "end": 1431.5, + "text": " Fones just recently, I feel like are kind of stepping into that market. Because now you know," + }, + { + "start": 1431.5, + "end": 1437.18, + "text": " your phone can detect like when you have a car crash. But it is not really like an age variation." + }, + { + "start": 1437.18, + "end": 1442.0600000000002, + "text": " I don't think there's anything specific to an age. Right. Right. If you're being honest," + }, + { + "start": 1442.0600000000002, + "end": 1447.74, + "text": " there's not a there's not a age specific one. We do sell out of the Apple watches and Samsung watches" + }, + { + "start": 1447.74, + "end": 1454.7, + "text": " for older generations for like step and take a contender blood pressure stuff like that. So I" + }, + { + "start": 1454.7, + "end": 1460.38, + "text": " would say more Apple like and Samsung watches and smart devices over the phone themselves. Right." + }, + { + "start": 1460.38, + "end": 1465.66, + "text": " Okay. So yeah, it's not really just a specific accessibility on a phone. I will say the phones" + }, + { + "start": 1465.66, + "end": 1469.8200000000002, + "text": " have gotten a little bit better about like the zoom features where you can make text bigger" + }, + { + "start": 1469.8200000000002, + "end": 1474.14, + "text": " and things like that. But that's really that's that's about it. Yeah. See that's what I guess." + }, + { + "start": 1474.14, + "end": 1483.18, + "text": " That's what comes to my mind is a large enlarged text. Yeah. Text dictation or Siri and big speed" + }, + { + "start": 1483.18, + "end": 1488.6200000000001, + "text": " stuff. That's about that's about all I would know. Yeah. I got you. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1489.42, + "end": 1493.42, + "text": " Oh, it means and I heard the excel that you're talking about the accessibility features and stuff." + }, + { + "start": 1493.42, + "end": 1497.98, + "text": " That's that's pretty awesome too. Yeah. That's pretty dope. I'm awesome. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. No," + }, + { + "start": 1497.98, + "end": 1503.5, + "text": " as far as accessibility, like when I say text dictation for anyone listening, I mean that you can" + }, + { + "start": 1503.5, + "end": 1509.3400000000001, + "text": " press a button and your phone will read something out loud to you. Yeah. If your text message is" + }, + { + "start": 1509.3400000000001, + "end": 1514.6200000000001, + "text": " confusing for you or if you're having trouble reading it. So you can set it up so that your phone" + }, + { + "start": 1514.6200000000001, + "end": 1519.5, + "text": " will tell you, you know, you've got a message from so and so. Yeah. So that's a great thing" + }, + { + "start": 1519.5, + "end": 1525.18, + "text": " with AirPods. They'll read your text message to you in your ear. Oh, wow. I genuinely did not" + }, + { + "start": 1525.18, + "end": 1528.86, + "text": " know that I don't have AirPods. Yes. So if you see a lot, you know, you see all the people that" + }, + { + "start": 1528.86, + "end": 1533.26, + "text": " make some of them keep an air pot in their ear all the time. They're genuinely probably doing that" + }, + { + "start": 1533.26, + "end": 1536.06, + "text": " so they can hear their text message in the ear and they don't have to pull their phone out." + }, + { + "start": 1536.78, + "end": 1541.66, + "text": " Huh. There's a guy I work with that is like air air pot in one ear religious. Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1541.66, + "end": 1545.58, + "text": " Yes. I'm in all the time. And I'm like, are you listening? Things are, oh no, I'm just going" + }, + { + "start": 1545.58, + "end": 1550.62, + "text": " to treat my text messages. That's right. I didn't know that at all. Yeah. He'll hear him talking" + }, + { + "start": 1550.62, + "end": 1555.6599999999999, + "text": " to himself sometimes. He's in the beer spawn. But I hear it. You know what? April," + }, + { + "start": 1555.6599999999999, + "end": 1560.78, + "text": " my one imagine your wife, because I know my wife does. She keeps the AirPods in one ear. So she does," + }, + { + "start": 1560.78, + "end": 1567.1799999999998, + "text": " I bet our wives probably do the same thing. Man. She will. If she's, uh, if she's got the time to" + }, + { + "start": 1567.1799999999998, + "end": 1571.98, + "text": " actually like focus on something. But if if she's not sitting around, she probably would not." + }, + { + "start": 1572.46, + "end": 1577.02, + "text": " Well, to be fair, Keely has a very, very important job. So here's your one. See," + }, + { + "start": 1577.02, + "end": 1582.6200000000001, + "text": " you're is also a nurse. Oh, the other wife's doing importance here. Yeah, we don't, we're," + }, + { + "start": 1582.6200000000001, + "end": 1586.94, + "text": " we're slackers. I don't do anything. I'm slack. Yeah. Right. My wife is like, you know, just to" + }, + { + "start": 1586.94, + "end": 1592.78, + "text": " teach her for the generation. So I'm just, man, look, your wife is awesome too. Yeah. No." + }, + { + "start": 1592.78, + "end": 1596.8600000000001, + "text": " Shout out to our wife. Teaching the younger generation. Shout out to wives. Shout out to wives." + }, + { + "start": 1596.86, + "end": 1602.1399999999999, + "text": " Why is there? We need to make a, we need to have a wife. Let's have the women of everyday tech" + }, + { + "start": 1602.1399999999999, + "end": 1606.6999999999998, + "text": " curves to show and see how that goes. It'd be a lot more educated. It would be a lot more" + }, + { + "start": 1606.6999999999998, + "end": 1611.26, + "text": " educational. Yeah, a lot more education. You know what? And be like, what do you, like, ladies," + }, + { + "start": 1611.26, + "end": 1615.1799999999998, + "text": " what do you think about, you know, our husbands and what they tell us about tech stuff? That'd be" + }, + { + "start": 1615.1799999999998, + "end": 1619.4199999999998, + "text": " interesting. That'd be fun. That'd be interesting. Let us know if you want to do that. That," + }, + { + "start": 1619.4199999999998, + "end": 1624.3, + "text": " that would be interesting. Yeah. Zero would legit do it. She'd be like, let's go. Oh, yeah. My wife's" + }, + { + "start": 1624.3, + "end": 1629.58, + "text": " screen time on her phone is like two hours a day. That's crazy. That's honestly impressive." + }, + { + "start": 1630.22, + "end": 1634.62, + "text": " That's pretty darn good. Yeah. She needs, she needs no bill piece price of it. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1636.86, + "end": 1642.3, + "text": " And we're saying that if you're unaware, we're saying that as like, like, that's a low number." + }, + { + "start": 1643.1, + "end": 1647.6599999999999, + "text": " That's a very, very, very, very low. Two hours is a low number. Yeah. That is a," + }, + { + "start": 1647.8200000000002, + "end": 1656.14, + "text": " monos like seven. Yeah. Right. All right. Final question. So beer. How do I know if I've been" + }, + { + "start": 1656.14, + "end": 1662.5400000000002, + "text": " hacked and what can I immediately do to stop it? Fastest way to know that your hacked is if" + }, + { + "start": 1662.5400000000002, + "end": 1668.3000000000002, + "text": " your computer suddenly the performance suddenly just knows that if you just runs super slow," + }, + { + "start": 1669.1000000000001, + "end": 1675.3400000000001, + "text": " particularly, I know they do something similar on max, but on windows. If you try to drag a" + }, + { + "start": 1675.34, + "end": 1680.06, + "text": " window around and it starts shading or whatever, where it starts making like its clones of a cell," + }, + { + "start": 1680.06, + "end": 1685.02, + "text": " if it runs really slow, or if you see something that pops up and says, Hey, you've been, you know," + }, + { + "start": 1685.02, + "end": 1691.26, + "text": " you've been hacked. Call this number. The first thing, the best thing, find the power button on your" + }, + { + "start": 1691.26, + "end": 1697.58, + "text": " device. Hold that button down till everything goes black. 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Sometimes you may see a" + }, + { + "start": 1725.26, + "end": 1730.78, + "text": " pop up and especially today's computers lower right hand side of the screen, where what we call the" + }, + { + "start": 1730.78, + "end": 1736.3799999999999, + "text": " notifications area comes up. Sometimes you'll go on websites. You might be visiting news sites." + }, + { + "start": 1736.3799999999999, + "end": 1740.86, + "text": " You might be visiting other things or whatever and things will pop up down there and says that" + }, + { + "start": 1740.86, + "end": 1745.5, + "text": " you've been hacked. You've been hacked. Those are just notifications. Those are cookies, right?" + }, + { + "start": 1745.5, + "end": 1750.1399999999999, + "text": " What do they call it? They call cookies. Some of your information is being, it's not being" + }, + { + "start": 1750.1399999999999, + "end": 1755.74, + "text": " compromised or anything else. It just, it comes on as an ad and it says that, Hey, Abel might be" + }, + { + "start": 1755.74, + "end": 1761.58, + "text": " interested in wanting to know about security. So we're going to drop this thing, this, uh, this" + }, + { + "start": 1761.58, + "end": 1767.74, + "text": " anti virus program ad on his computer. And it will say you're, you know, you're hacked. You're not" + }, + { + "start": 1767.74, + "end": 1773.66, + "text": " hacked. That's actually an ad on your computer. You can go to the part of it. You can look up on" + }, + { + "start": 1773.66, + "end": 1779.02, + "text": " yield, YouTube or Google university on how to clear your notifications and it will never come up" + }, + { + "start": 1779.02, + "end": 1783.26, + "text": " again. So I want to be clear. Okay. There's two different, it's two different things. Just because" + }, + { + "start": 1783.26, + "end": 1787.98, + "text": " you see a pop up down there does not always mean you've been hacked. Watch out for things like" + }, + { + "start": 1787.98, + "end": 1792.86, + "text": " slow computer running or something usually in the middle of your screen that says that, Hey," + }, + { + "start": 1792.86, + "end": 1797.74, + "text": " you've been hacked. Call this toll free number and we'll fix it. That is a sign somebody's got you." + }, + { + "start": 1798.3, + "end": 1804.54, + "text": " And those happen. I think I've shared with each of you, uh, sometimes how I get hack attempts" + }, + { + "start": 1804.54, + "end": 1810.22, + "text": " from Berlin and India and everything else at least twice a week. I mean, at least I had," + }, + { + "start": 1810.22, + "end": 1815.1000000000001, + "text": " I had that's insane. I had like two or three of them today. I had two or three of them today." + }, + { + "start": 1815.1000000000001, + "end": 1818.94, + "text": " Like people saying like, you know, from a from the United States and everything else," + }, + { + "start": 1818.94, + "end": 1822.54, + "text": " I'll get something pop up saying we blocked an attack on this computer from XYZ." + }, + { + "start": 1823.66, + "end": 1830.3, + "text": " And it tells you where it's coming from. Russia, India, Poland, Vietnam, uh, well, what was" + }, + { + "start": 1830.3, + "end": 1837.02, + "text": " the most recent China? How do I feel from China? That's crazy. I can tell you it is the exact" + }, + { + "start": 1837.02, + "end": 1841.58, + "text": " opposite on a phone. If you have something coming up on your phone saying like, you've been hacked." + }, + { + "start": 1841.58, + "end": 1846.3799999999999, + "text": " Yeah, you clicked that. You're getting hacked. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like the exact" + }, + { + "start": 1846.3799999999999, + "end": 1849.98, + "text": " opposite on the phone. So if you get any ad saying you've been hacked on your phone," + }, + { + "start": 1849.98, + "end": 1854.7, + "text": " you don't even touch them. Yeah. Just because I don't know why that's so crazy. It's so opposite" + }, + { + "start": 1854.7, + "end": 1859.1, + "text": " on the phone. Right. Well, actually, I'm hung on. Maybe I may have this spoke. I don't want you to" + }, + { + "start": 1859.1, + "end": 1863.42, + "text": " click on the ad. Yeah. So I thought you were saying, I want to, yeah, I want to click on the," + }, + { + "start": 1864.14, + "end": 1869.5800000000002, + "text": " there's a part of your computer called notifications. You go to YouTube to see how to clear your" + }, + { + "start": 1869.5800000000002, + "end": 1874.6200000000001, + "text": " notifications. Okay. Never click on those. Yeah. Don't ever click. 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So regardless, I think our conclusion is we don't want" + }, + { + "start": 1930.94, + "end": 1936.54, + "text": " you to click that because you're either getting taken to a commercialized website. You're telling those," + }, + { + "start": 1937.5, + "end": 1942.3799999999999, + "text": " uh, companies that you want to see those ads over and over and over again, or you might actually be" + }, + { + "start": 1942.38, + "end": 1949.1000000000001, + "text": " getting hacked. So, yeah. Very true. Very true. All right. Well, guys, I think this has been a good show." + }, + { + "start": 1949.8200000000002, + "end": 1955.9, + "text": " Appreciate it coming on. Yeah. Looking forward to many more. Yeah, many more coming forward. I feel like," + }, + { + "start": 1955.9, + "end": 1962.38, + "text": " uh, you know, with the digital, um, we are more accessible to everyone. And I think we are more" + }, + { + "start": 1962.38, + "end": 1968.14, + "text": " available for our time schedules and stuff. So it should be the three of us more consistently." + }, + { + "start": 1969.1000000000001, + "end": 1974.7800000000002, + "text": " And we'll, we will still be taking your emails and such. So, oh yeah. All right. We're looking forward to it." + }, + { + "start": 1974.7800000000002, + "end": 1977.5800000000002, + "text": " Please continue to support. Thank y'all for listening. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1977.5800000000002, + "end": 1981.5800000000002, + "text": " Absolutely. Share us to your friends. You know, whatever you feel like you need to do. Exactly." + }, + { + "start": 1981.5800000000002, + "end": 1986.6200000000001, + "text": " Exactly. Because I feel like there's some good stuff out here in this one that we can share." + }, + { + "start": 1986.6200000000001, + "end": 1991.5, + "text": " So yeah. All right. 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1366.88, + "text": " It's still up in the heavens somewhere." + }, + { + "start": 1366.88, + "end": 1370.24, + "text": " Sitting up there next to Elon Musk satellites" + }, + { + "start": 1370.24, + "end": 1372.16, + "text": " and everything's floating up there somewhere." + }, + { + "start": 1372.16, + "end": 1373.64, + "text": " It's still there." + }, + { + "start": 1373.64, + "end": 1376.24, + "text": " And so once you use a device," + }, + { + "start": 1376.24, + "end": 1378.1200000000001, + "text": " if I bought you, I say," + }, + { + "start": 1378.1200000000001, + "end": 1379.6000000000001, + "text": " happy birthday, here's a new phone." + }, + { + "start": 1379.6000000000001, + "end": 1380.5600000000002, + "text": " And then you get a phone," + }, + { + "start": 1380.5600000000002, + "end": 1381.8000000000002, + "text": " you log in and everything else." + }, + { + "start": 1381.8000000000002, + "end": 1383.8400000000001, + "text": " The cloud is gonna say," + }, + { + 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Still here with Sabir Abdul-Hawk." + }, + { + "start": 1466.96, + "end": 1469.4, + "text": " Who is ready to answer your questions?" + }, + { + "start": 1469.4, + "end": 1474.4, + "text": " Call us at 877 MPB Ring, 877-672-7464." + }, + { + "start": 1476.5600000000002, + "end": 1480.28, + "text": " Email us at everydaytech at MPBonline.org." + }, + { + "start": 1480.28, + "end": 1482.8, + "text": " And we are rocking and rolling with these calls." + }, + { + "start": 1482.8, + "end": 1483.92, + "text": " We get so many coming in." + }, + { + "start": 1483.92, + "end": 1487.24, + "text": " So April and Mississippi has a question for us." + }, + { + "start": 1487.24, + "end": 1488.8799999999999, + "text": " So April, what's, what's happening?" + }, + { + "start": 1490.36, + "end": 1492.36, + "text": " Well, actually I had an answer to that," + }, + { + "start": 1492.36, + "end": 1494.48, + "text": " John, and it had his iPad box out." + }, + { + "start": 1494.48, + "end": 1495.48, + 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1520.6799999999998, + "text": " You just continue to hold it, the reset it." + }, + { + "start": 1520.6799999999998, + "end": 1523.08, + "text": " And then once it reset, you go in the dear phone" + }, + { + "start": 1523.08, + "end": 1524.8, + "text": " and it automatically updates it," + }, + { + "start": 1524.8, + "end": 1527.0, + "text": " face off what information is on your phone." + }, + { + "start": 1527.0, + "end": 1527.84, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1527.84, + "end": 1528.8799999999999, + "text": " But super easy." + }, + { + "start": 1528.8799999999999, + "end": 1530.36, + "text": " It is." + }, + { + "start": 1530.36, + "end": 1531.76, + "text": " Thank you for that, definitely." + }, + { + "start": 1531.76, + "end": 1536.12, + "text": " And I know that's one I think I thought I was hearing him say that too." + }, + { + "start": 1536.12, + "end": 1540.04, + "text": " I know I had an issue with an iPad that I was gifted from a friend." + }, + { + "start": 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" I was doing the same thing." + }, + { + "start": 1742.46, + "end": 1746.6200000000001, + "text": " We can try to get on the phone with, you know, try to touch base with Apple's, you know," + }, + { + "start": 1746.6200000000001, + "end": 1747.6200000000001, + "text": " online." + }, + { + "start": 1747.6200000000001, + "end": 1748.6200000000001, + "text": " Share the information with them." + }, + { + "start": 1748.6200000000001, + "end": 1752.58, + "text": " Tell them that, you know, this is a bereavement situation or touch base with them." + }, + { + "start": 1752.58, + "end": 1754.06, + "text": " I'm hoping." + }, + { + "start": 1754.06, + "end": 1759.14, + "text": " I'm hoping that we'll go ahead and, you know, if you've done YouTube University like the" + }, + { + "start": 1759.14, + "end": 1763.06, + "text": " young lady before us that just called in, you've done YouTube University and you can't" + }, + { + "start": 1763.06, + "end": 1766.66, + "text": " get in, I would hope 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+ "end": 1805.98, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1805.98, + "end": 1810.7, + "text": " But it's, yeah, but it is a sad situation and people have to deal with that all the time." + }, + { + "start": 1810.7, + "end": 1811.7, + "text": " Yep." + }, + { + "start": 1811.7, + "end": 1812.7, + "text": " Yep." + }, + { + "start": 1812.7, + "end": 1816.5, + "text": " So I'm sure Apple and or whoever has a has a standard for that." + }, + { + "start": 1816.5, + "end": 1817.5, + "text": " I hope they got it worked out." + }, + { + "start": 1817.5, + "end": 1818.5, + "text": " I hope they help." + }, + { + "start": 1818.5, + "end": 1820.26, + "text": " I hope they get some help with that." + }, + { + "start": 1820.26, + "end": 1821.26, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 1821.26, + "end": 1824.7, + "text": " Well, like I said, we have another segment to play at the end of the show." + }, + { + "start": 1824.7, + "end": 1829.6200000000001, + "text": " So we are going to go to one 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Eli what have you been listening to?" + }, + { + "start": 35.44, + "end": 42.56, + "text": " This is a podcast called Discovery. It's from the BBC World Service and it's a podcast of podcasts" + }, + { + "start": 42.56, + "end": 47.44, + "text": " in a sense. Sometimes there might be episodes of Brotherford and Fry in there. It's always about" + }, + { + "start": 47.44, + "end": 51.84, + "text": " science but they also do some of their own original episodes as well. This is one of those" + }, + { + "start": 51.84, + "end": 59.2, + "text": " original productions and it's about a Mexican amphibian called Axelotl. Have you ever heard of" + }, + { + "start": 59.2, + "end": 65.04, + "text": " them? Oh yeah. I met my, no my husband took me on a date to a restaurant called Axelotl." + }, + { + "start": 65.04, + "end": 69.28, + "text": " Oh really? 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But before we get to our first stop" + }, + { + "start": 244.16, + "end": 249.36, + "text": " here's another strange fact about the Axelotl, Richard Griffiths, an amphibian conservation" + }, + { + "start": 249.36, + "end": 256.08, + "text": " biologist at the UK's University of Kent. It's unusual in that it is what we call pedomorphic or" + }, + { + "start": 256.08, + "end": 262.64, + "text": " neotonic and that actually means that it never actually grows up. Like other amphibians it lives" + }, + { + "start": 262.64, + "end": 269.28, + "text": " in breeds in water and the eggs hatch into a larval form but they never actually transform" + }, + { + "start": 269.84, + "end": 277.44, + "text": " into a form that lives online. So the Axelotl keeps on growing with its gills and actually can" + }, + { + "start": 277.44, + "end": 286.24, + "text": " breed as a sort of adult larval form. 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For wealth here in the laboratory we had a" + }, + { + "start": 325.44, + "end": 332.64, + "text": " lot of them and we reproduced them especially for research and education purposes right now." + }, + { + "start": 332.64, + "end": 340.08000000000004, + "text": " This is a big glass tank way you can see about 20 of these grown up of these mature Axelotls," + }, + { + "start": 340.64, + "end": 346.15999999999997, + "text": " but they're about 30 centimeters long. They're kind of ambling around on those poor little feet and" + }, + { + "start": 346.15999999999997, + "end": 351.59999999999997, + "text": " swishing their tails like fish but walking at the same time. But this one just turns to faces." + }, + { + "start": 351.59999999999997, + "end": 357.2, + "text": " When their face on those little bitty eyes and that little smile that face is quite captivating," + }, + { + "start": 357.2, + "end": 364.47999999999996, + "text": " isn't it? That's right, that's right. You know the scientific name of the Axelotl is ambistoma." + }, + { + "start": 364.48, + "end": 370.40000000000003, + "text": " It means that they have the mouth like a teaspoon. You know? A mouth like a teaspoon." + }, + { + "start": 370.40000000000003, + "end": 374.8, + "text": " If you look the shape it looks like a little spoon. It does look like a little spoon." + }, + { + "start": 374.8, + "end": 380.16, + "text": " That's a scientific name, it means. They're very dark in color. They're almost sort of" + }, + { + "start": 380.16, + "end": 387.20000000000005, + "text": " charcoly, motley colored. They live in the bottom of the lake which is very very dark so they can" + }, + { + "start": 387.2, + "end": 394.71999999999997, + "text": " hide in the bottom of the lake and keep waiting just right there to a little fish passing in front of" + }, + { + "start": 394.71999999999997, + "end": 403.12, + "text": " them and jump and eat them. They pound. Exactly. There's the way they hunt. This is a natural color." + }, + { + "start": 403.12, + "end": 408.8, + "text": " You see? It's more common to find you know white Axelotls as a pet. It's very very common." + }, + { + "start": 408.8, + "end": 415.59999999999997, + "text": " But this is the natural one. This is the original one. Yeah because the ones that you see in Aquaria" + }, + { + "start": 415.68, + "end": 421.20000000000005, + "text": " the people have is pets. They're sort of pink. Exactly. The pink ones cannot survive in the wild." + }, + { + "start": 421.20000000000005, + "end": 427.76000000000005, + "text": " You know? Everyone can see them. They can know hunt very well. So that's why the nature" + }, + { + "start": 427.76000000000005, + "end": 434.16, + "text": " put this color in the asianotls. The color difference between wild type Axelotls and the ones" + }, + { + "start": 434.16, + "end": 439.84000000000003, + "text": " you're most likely to see outside Mexico brings us to the origin story of the massive population of" + }, + { + "start": 439.84, + "end": 446.32, + "text": " Axelotls in research labs and home aquariums around the world. Most of them descend from just a few" + }, + { + "start": 446.32, + "end": 453.76, + "text": " caught by a French explorer visiting Mexico about 150 years ago. Richard Griffiths. 34 individuals" + }, + { + "start": 453.76, + "end": 462.0, + "text": " were collected in 1863 and brought back to the Paris Museum where they did very well and a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 462.0, + "end": 467.91999999999996, + "text": " research was carried out and it was discovered that they make very good research models for all" + }, + { + "start": 467.92, + "end": 473.6, + "text": " sorts of things. They have quite amazing powers of regeneration so if they lose a limb they can" + }, + { + "start": 473.6, + "end": 479.04, + "text": " grow another one. If they lose some parts of some organs they can grow another one. It is a" + }, + { + "start": 479.04, + "end": 484.88, + "text": " remarkable process. An Axelotls regenerates almost anything. Andrew Johnson, a developmental biologist at" + }, + { + "start": 484.88, + "end": 490.56, + "text": " the UK's University of Nottingham. You can regenerate the brain. You can regenerate it hard. It" + }, + { + "start": 490.56, + "end": 496.08000000000004, + "text": " regenerates spinal cord. It's easiest to illustrate how interesting this is when you can see the limb." + }, + { + "start": 497.03999999999996, + "end": 505.44, + "text": " This is what many people study. Imagine the limb gets bitten off. 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Aquatic animal lovers around the world took the axelotl to their hearts, but way" + }, + { + "start": 597.9200000000001, + "end": 602.6400000000001, + "text": " before them the Aztec civilization took the species into the heart of its culture." + }, + { + "start": 603.12, + "end": 611.12, + "text": " The Mexican Axelotl, its name du Raives Roman, a mysterious Aztec god called Zelotl." + }, + { + "start": 612.88, + "end": 621.04, + "text": " Zelotl was the twin brother of Ketsalkoat, one of the main goddess of the Aztecs. Zelotl was not" + }, + { + "start": 621.04, + "end": 628.48, + "text": " pretty handsome, you know. In fact the word Zelotl means like monster, like ugly thing, you know." + }, + { + "start": 629.44, + "end": 636.64, + "text": " That's why the word ashelotl means in fact water monster. The Aztec people, they knew" + }, + { + "start": 636.64, + "end": 645.04, + "text": " ashelotl have some medical properties. They used to eat ashelotl when they feel sick or weak." + }, + { + "start": 645.04, + "end": 651.52, + "text": " In Aztec times the axelotl was an important part of the local lacustrine economy." + }, + { + "start": 651.52, + "end": 655.9200000000001, + "text": " There was a francheskin monk that once wrote that it was the food of the lords." + }, + { + "start": 656.7199999999999, + "end": 662.9599999999999, + "text": " So the axelotl has always been in the hearts and minds of the people and it's one of the reasons" + }, + { + "start": 662.9599999999999, + "end": 669.8399999999999, + "text": " it also appears on the murals in the National Palace painted by Diego Rivera. So a long history of" + }, + { + "start": 670.4799999999999, + "end": 675.12, + "text": " cultural importance that makes it something of an amphibian icon." + }, + { + "start": 678.4, + "end": 683.36, + "text": " The iron ears that in the wild you name it it is hitting the wild axelotl." + }, + { + "start": 684.16, + "end": 689.52, + "text": " So here we have an animal that is well known all around the world in labs and pet shops" + }, + { + "start": 690.08, + "end": 695.6800000000001, + "text": " and that is a cultural icon. But in the wild is nearly extinct." + }, + { + "start": 698.88, + "end": 704.5600000000001, + "text": " I am Luis Sanbrano, I work in the National University in the Biology Institute of Mexico." + }, + { + "start": 704.5600000000001, + "end": 709.52, + "text": " And where are we standing right now? This is one of the places that I like to come when I am" + }, + { + "start": 709.6, + "end": 718.48, + "text": " sad, because it is one of the places in Sochi Milco. Where you can see how traditional agriculture" + }, + { + "start": 718.48, + "end": 724.72, + "text": " has been developed in the last 2000 years and you can see birds and you will see this refuge for" + }, + { + "start": 724.72, + "end": 731.1999999999999, + "text": " ashylotls. Luis Sanbrano has spent the last two decades charting the steep decline of the" + }, + { + "start": 731.1999999999999, + "end": 737.36, + "text": " Mexican axelotl. But he is also working with local farmers to create safe spaces for the species" + }, + { + "start": 737.36, + "end": 744.64, + "text": " in Sochi Milco. Key to success he says are the Chinampas, the small artificial islands of agricultural" + }, + { + "start": 744.64, + "end": 749.6800000000001, + "text": " land built from the sediments, hold from the bottom of the now vanished lake Sochi Milco." + }, + { + "start": 750.32, + "end": 755.76, + "text": " For centuries he says the creation of the Chinampas made both people and wildlife prosper." + }, + { + "start": 756.64, + "end": 762.4, + "text": " It used to be a huge lake and then they started with create this square islands made from" + }, + { + "start": 762.4, + "end": 769.36, + "text": " mud from the bottom of the lake which fertilizing the land very well for lands. And that created a" + }, + { + "start": 769.36, + "end": 776.4, + "text": " labyrinth of canals around all this wetland. So these canals helped a lot the biodiversity" + }, + { + "start": 776.4, + "end": 782.0, + "text": " in the shallow areas of the lake. Now they have a lot of shallow areas. So the abundance of" + }, + { + "start": 782.0, + "end": 788.24, + "text": " the diversity of the lake increase basically with cry fishes, small fishes and asholotls. When did that" + }, + { + "start": 788.32, + "end": 794.8, + "text": " develop? Well that started to be developed 2000 years ago when the first people arrived to" + }, + { + "start": 794.8, + "end": 801.36, + "text": " this valley and they started to create this new way of farming which made them a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 801.36, + "end": 807.04, + "text": " advantage against the rest of the people because they have a lot of food for the rest of the years." + }, + { + "start": 807.04, + "end": 810.88, + "text": " So they started to create civilization and part of the reason the Aztecs became" + }, + { + "start": 810.96, + "end": 817.68, + "text": " highly powerful is because we have this high productive land. 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But those pristine waters were" + }, + { + "start": 866.8, + "end": 872.16, + "text": " diverted for the sake of the city's development. From then on Zotchimilko's waterways were fed" + }, + { + "start": 872.16, + "end": 878.56, + "text": " by a wastewater treatment plant in the north. Studies about the treatment plant water quality says" + }, + { + "start": 878.56, + "end": 884.56, + "text": " that sometimes the water quality is nice and sometimes the water quality is really really back." + }, + { + "start": 884.56, + "end": 889.5999999999999, + "text": " Particularly in rainy season when there is a lot of rain and then it's not enough time for" + }, + { + "start": 889.5999999999999, + "end": 895.28, + "text": " the treatment plant to process all the water. The water arrives here with very very bad quality which" + }, + { + "start": 895.28, + "end": 901.12, + "text": " makes all the animals suffer and the whole plant suffer. 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So they grew really" + }, + { + "start": 938.0, + "end": 944.4, + "text": " really fast and our experiment says that carp eats eggs of the axolotls and T'lapia it's the" + }, + { + "start": 944.4, + "end": 949.52, + "text": " juveniles of the axolotls. So these invasive fish are coming in and they're eating them at all these" + }, + { + "start": 949.52, + "end": 955.36, + "text": " different types of species. Not only affect with predation but also with competition because also" + }, + { + "start": 955.36, + "end": 961.12, + "text": " they both species compete for food with axolotls. And the third one is humanisation. I mean if you" + }, + { + "start": 961.12, + "end": 968.16, + "text": " see how Mexico City humanisation spread through the South in the 80s was a nightmare in terms of" + }, + { + "start": 968.16, + "end": 974.64, + "text": " how the humanisation grew. The three of these things made that the axolotls population has been" + }, + { + "start": 974.64, + "end": 981.76, + "text": " decreasing a lot. So much that without any intervention there'll not be a single wild axolotl" + }, + { + "start": 981.76, + "end": 986.88, + "text": " left in Sotchimilko in just seven years time according to Luis San Brano's projections." + }, + { + "start": 987.4399999999999, + "end": 990.24, + "text": " But he says he's doing his best to stop that happening." + }, + { + "start": 994.16, + "end": 999.68, + "text": " The plans depend on collaborating with farmers, the Chinamperos, who work the reclaimed land here" + }, + { + "start": 999.68, + "end": 1005.4399999999999, + "text": " growing maize, beans and squashes and irrigating them using canals and ditches carved into their plots." + }, + { + "start": 1006.0799999999999, + "end": 1011.92, + "text": " The idea is to create clean safe refuges for the salamanders. Let me tell you first that it's not" + }, + { + "start": 1011.92, + "end": 1018.3199999999999, + "text": " only academic idea is an local farmer's idea also because without them we couldn't do this type of" + }, + { + "start": 1018.3199999999999, + "end": 1025.76, + "text": " restoration. The axolotls refuge basically is that we use these channels that are around the" + }, + { + "start": 1025.76, + "end": 1033.92, + "text": " Chinampas, the Sarias where the chinamperos crop. We can semi isolate them easily if we build a semi-permable" + }, + { + "start": 1033.92, + "end": 1040.24, + "text": " dam. With plants basically the dam is not a huge construction and the most important part of these" + }, + { + "start": 1040.24, + "end": 1046.64, + "text": " dam is the plants that filter the water so it will increase the water quality. Also forbids the" + }, + { + "start": 1046.64, + "end": 1054.24, + "text": " entrance of Carpentelapia so you will have a refuge without Carpentelapia and if the local farmer" + }, + { + "start": 1054.24, + "end": 1060.88, + "text": " still grows their local products then we will avoid the urbanization from the rest of the area." + }, + { + "start": 1061.84, + "end": 1066.48, + "text": " So we build this filter with the chinamperos and then you will have a nice environment" + }, + { + "start": 1067.36, + "end": 1072.96, + "text": " that is actually the same environment that they used to have 50, 60, 70 years ago. So we are not" + }, + { + "start": 1072.96, + "end": 1078.8, + "text": " creating something new. We are restoring the things that used to happen about 70 years ago." + }, + { + "start": 1079.76, + "end": 1085.04, + "text": " And one of the farmers at this Chinampa, Philippe Herrera, says the plant-based water filters in" + }, + { + "start": 1085.04, + "end": 1089.52, + "text": " the irrigation channels are good for both the axolotls and for his health and livelihood." + }, + { + "start": 1095.36, + "end": 1101.44, + "text": " The quality of the water is very important for us. We need it to be free from pollution and not" + }, + { + "start": 1101.44, + "end": 1112.64, + "text": " contaminated with things like heavy metals and bacteria. The water is the most important part" + }, + { + "start": 1112.64, + "end": 1119.6000000000001, + "text": " of a complex ecosystem of which the axolotl is a part. So for us when you see an axolotl you know" + }, + { + "start": 1119.6000000000001, + "end": 1122.64, + "text": " the water quality is good and that the ecosystem is working." + }, + { + "start": 1122.72, + "end": 1131.3600000000001, + "text": " So Luis, the partnership between you and scientists and the people who make their livelihoods here" + }, + { + "start": 1131.3600000000001, + "end": 1134.8000000000002, + "text": " who grow their livelihoods here is really important. How does that work?" + }, + { + "start": 1135.3600000000001, + "end": 1140.3200000000002, + "text": " Yeah well it has been a little bit difficult since we started because we have different type of" + }, + { + "start": 1140.3200000000002, + "end": 1145.3600000000001, + "text": " philosophy. Our goal is to generate information and to restore the system and their goal is" + }, + { + "start": 1145.3600000000001, + "end": 1152.4, + "text": " to farm and to survive from the farm. So these two different goals created some difficulties" + }, + { + "start": 1152.88, + "end": 1158.0800000000002, + "text": " even to speak, I mean to have a communication, a proper communication. So it talks about one" + }, + { + "start": 1158.0800000000002, + "end": 1165.0400000000002, + "text": " year or two years to generate this bonding that also has to be based on trust because they suffer" + }, + { + "start": 1165.0400000000002, + "end": 1169.92, + "text": " a lot from scientists that come all the time here and then they retrieve all the data and then" + }, + { + "start": 1169.92, + "end": 1176.48, + "text": " leave without anything. So I told them okay I will be here for the next 30 years so we have to" + }, + { + "start": 1176.48, + "end": 1182.0800000000002, + "text": " create a trusty friendship at the beginning they didn't believe me but after five years they said" + }, + { + "start": 1182.08, + "end": 1186.24, + "text": " okay maybe he's doing it. He's still here. 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If you have made that question about six eight" + }, + { + "start": 1540.48, + "end": 1546.0, + "text": " years ago I will tell you know I mean this is going to the extension but now the people in" + }, + { + "start": 1546.0, + "end": 1551.52, + "text": " Mexico City are highly concerned and they want to pay a little bit more for the actual otuses." + }, + { + "start": 1551.52, + "end": 1556.8, + "text": " One of the stories that we have already about them. Richard Griffiths conservation scientist at" + }, + { + "start": 1556.8, + "end": 1563.44, + "text": " the University of Kent is also cautiously optimistic about some kind of future for the wild Mexican" + }, + { + "start": 1563.44, + "end": 1570.32, + "text": " axelotl. People understand the issues of the axelotl a lot more than they used to and the profile" + }, + { + "start": 1570.32, + "end": 1576.8, + "text": " has actually been raised and hopefully down the road that will actually lead to the threats" + }, + { + "start": 1576.8, + "end": 1582.72, + "text": " being mitigated but I think that is quite a long road to go down because of the multiferous" + }, + { + "start": 1582.72, + "end": 1587.84, + "text": " problems and probably the future of the axelotl in the immediate future will be in sort of small" + }, + { + "start": 1588.56, + "end": 1594.8, + "text": " highly managed sections of the lake system where you can clean up the water through" + }, + { + "start": 1595.44, + "end": 1601.84, + "text": " planting plants that will clean up through removal of the invasive fish and through controlled" + }, + { + "start": 1601.84, + "end": 1607.28, + "text": " reintroductions. Carefully monitored reintroductions of axelotls bred at facilities such as" + }, + { + "start": 1607.28, + "end": 1612.96, + "text": " luces and ericers research centres. A similar project is being considered to save another species" + }, + { + "start": 1612.96, + "end": 1619.44, + "text": " of axelotl unique to a different lake in Mexico. In that case the Salamander breeders are a dedicated" + }, + { + "start": 1619.44, + "end": 1626.24, + "text": " team of nuns religious sisters who rear axelotls in their convent. Their remarkable story is the" + }, + { + "start": 1626.24, + "end": 1632.0800000000002, + "text": " subject of the next edition of Discovery from the BBC World Service but for now a final thought" + }, + { + "start": 1632.0800000000002, + "end": 1638.4, + "text": " from Luis San Brano on the challenge of rallying the Mexican people to save a secretive slimy amphibian." + }, + { + "start": 1641.68, + "end": 1647.3600000000001, + "text": " I don't know I mean I've seen that is by far easier to market mammals. They're not fluffy." + }, + { + "start": 1647.36, + "end": 1651.6799999999998, + "text": " They are not fluffy. They're not sort of classically cute they kind of slimy. It's hard" + }, + { + "start": 1651.6799999999998, + "end": 1657.52, + "text": " away in the mud. Exactly. But particularly this animal has been attached with the culture," + }, + { + "start": 1657.52, + "end": 1663.76, + "text": " the Mexican culture. So I think that in some way it can touch the heart of the Mexicans and since" + }, + { + "start": 1663.76, + "end": 1668.6399999999999, + "text": " it's a little bit cute also and this strange for the rest of the world I've seen a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 1668.6399999999999, + "end": 1673.4399999999998, + "text": " international interest on that because they are with these perpetual smiling all the time." + }, + { + "start": 1673.92, + "end": 1679.6000000000001, + "text": " So that helps a lot to the people say okay I want to save this animal. He is smiling all the time." + }, + { + "start": 1679.6000000000001, + "end": 1689.3600000000001, + "text": " It's worth to be saved." + }, + { + "start": 1692.3200000000002, + "end": 1696.0800000000002, + "text": " All right so that's Discovery and I'd say I love this feed because you never know what you're" + }, + { + "start": 1696.0800000000002, + "end": 1700.56, + "text": " going to get. 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I didn't think it would go." + }, + { + "start": 1856.4799999999998, + "end": 1859.76, + "text": " It's been fun watching you wrestle your love of music" + }, + { + "start": 1859.76, + "end": 1862.6399999999999, + "text": " with your hatred of misogyny and beating." + }, + { + "start": 1862.6399999999999, + "end": 1864.0, + "text": " So to be pretty standard." + }, + { + "start": 1865.84, + "end": 1868.0, + "text": " Do subscribe if you've enjoyed evil genius." + }, + { + "start": 1868.0, + "end": 1869.04, + "text": " The topics are varied." + }, + { + "start": 1869.76, + "end": 1871.6799999999998, + "text": " If you want to hear a man struggling with the subject," + }, + { + "start": 1871.6799999999998, + "end": 1872.7199999999998, + "text": " he's had a week to learn about." + }, + { + "start": 1872.88, + "end": 1874.64, + "text": " Three panelists who have been briefed properly." + }, + { + "start": 1874.64, + "end": 1877.04, + "text": " Click subscribe now." + }, + { + "start": 1877.04, + "end": 1879.2, + "text": " If you've liked it, leave a glowing review underneath." + }, + { + "start": 1879.84, + "end": 1881.28, + "text": " Don't, if you haven't liked it," + }, + { + "start": 1881.28, + "end": 1882.32, + "text": " and if you leave a negative review," + }, + { + "start": 1882.32, + "end": 1884.32, + "text": " I will get your IP address and come and hurt you." + }, + { + "start": 1884.32, + "end": 1887.44, + "text": " Because I am evil and my comedy isn't that good." + }, + { + "start": 1887.44, + "end": 1887.68, + "text": " Bye." + }, + { + "start": 1893.68, + "end": 1895.76, + "text": " Nice to hear Russell Kane doing something different there." + }, + { + "start": 1895.76, + "end": 1896.24, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1896.24, + "end": 1897.6000000000001, + "text": " Yeah, it was really good, wasn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 1897.6000000000001, + "end": 1898.48, + "text": " Yeah, I like him." + }, + { + "start": 1898.48, + "end": 1901.44, + 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I'm sure you are as well." + }, + { + "start": 1570.0, + "end": 1576.0, + "text": " Even if you didn't know anything about poker or all that world, it sounds strangely mystifying and intriguing." + }, + { + "start": 1576.0, + "end": 1582.0, + "text": " Tell me your views on this, though. I mean, perhaps in some ways you've got very little sympathy and maybe she's not even asking for that." + }, + { + "start": 1582.0, + "end": 1586.0, + "text": " But people who have seen the film say there's a huge amount of humanity in there." + }, + { + "start": 1586.0, + "end": 1594.0, + "text": " And of course, what happens to people after they get caught up in these things is almost as interesting as what happens when they're being caught up in these worlds." + }, + { + "start": 1594.0, + "end": 1599.0, + "text": " I was particularly struck by the fact she said when she came out of that world, she suddenly realised it meant nothing." + }, + { + "start": 1600.0, + "end": 1609.0, + "text": " Let me know what you think. You can do so by leaving a review on your podcast app of choice to the whole series, which of course includes many interviews I've done throughout the year." + }, + { + "start": 1609.0, + "end": 1619.0, + "text": " And I'd love to hear your views on those as well from Rio Ferdinand to the Prime Minister to Risa May to, you know, the man who landed a plane on the Hudson River, Sully." + }, + { + "start": 1619.0, + "end": 1626.0, + "text": " All sorts of people who found themselves caught up in the eye of the storm, all getting such on Twitter at BBC Five Live," + }, + { + "start": 1626.0, + "end": 1632.0, + "text": " which is where this programme originates from. Do get in touch. I'd love to hear from you." + }, + { + "start": 1640.0, + "end": 1642.0, + "text": " Eli, you're going to see the film." + }, + { + "start": 1642.0, + "end": 1644.0, + "text": " Am I going to see the film? 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Not in 10, 15 years time because this was way too far," + }, + { + "start": 3617.72, + "end": 3623.3999999999996, + "text": " but in one or two months time, which were small steps, but small steps always in the right direction." + }, + { + "start": 3623.3999999999996, + "end": 3628.3599999999997, + "text": " And I think that definitely helped me in achieving small goals after small goals to get to the" + }, + { + "start": 3628.3599999999997, + "end": 3633.0, + "text": " bigger goal, which was obviously to become a Formula One driver and even more so with Ferrari." + }, + { + "start": 3633.0, + "end": 3639.16, + "text": " But it's with the different small steps that I've and the different targets that I've fixed myself" + }, + { + "start": 3639.16, + "end": 3646.6, + "text": " throughout my career. Absolutely, Charles, we end every episode of on purpose with a final five." + }, + { + "start": 3646.6, + "end": 3650.7599999999998, + "text": " So these final five questions have to be answered in one word or one sentence." + }, + { + "start": 3650.7599999999998, + "end": 3657.16, + "text": " Okay. Excellent. All right. So these are your fast five drive fast. Now you've got to talk fast." + }, + { + "start": 3657.16, + "end": 3661.72, + "text": " You don't have to answer them fast. They're just shorter answers. Question number one, Charles," + }, + { + "start": 3661.72, + "end": 3667.88, + "text": " what is the best advice you've ever heard or received? I'll use the one of my father. Stay humble," + }, + { + "start": 3667.88, + "end": 3673.96, + "text": " be grateful and work hard. That is one sentence. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, that's perfect." + }, + { + "start": 3674.6, + "end": 3679.4, + "text": " All right. Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever heard or received on your journey?" + }, + { + "start": 3679.96, + "end": 3686.84, + "text": " Don't do this mistake. I think you've got to do mistakes in order to learn from them and to become" + }, + { + "start": 3686.84, + "end": 3693.7200000000003, + "text": " the person that you are then 20, 20 years after. Otherwise you, yeah. So yeah, I think every mistakes," + }, + { + "start": 3693.7200000000003, + "end": 3698.28, + "text": " as I said earlier, I think I always tend to think that it's a positive thing because you grow from" + }, + { + "start": 3698.6800000000003, + "end": 3706.2000000000003, + "text": " them. Absolutely. Question number three, how do you prepare on a big day for a race on the day" + }, + { + "start": 3706.84, + "end": 3713.48, + "text": " and how do you end the day after the race? Cold baths. I started and I ended that way." + }, + { + "start": 3713.48, + "end": 3720.2000000000003, + "text": " Well, both sides. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, I love it. It's great for the body, especially for our" + }, + { + "start": 3720.2000000000003, + "end": 3725.5600000000004, + "text": " sport. Inside the cockpit, we are going through extremely high temperatures. So to put the" + }, + { + "start": 3725.64, + "end": 3731.16, + "text": " body as low as possible before the race is super important. And then I do the cold bath again" + }, + { + "start": 3731.16, + "end": 3737.08, + "text": " for recovery after that. And that also wakes me up if I'm a bit tired in the morning. So, yes," + }, + { + "start": 3737.08, + "end": 3740.92, + "text": " cold baths. Nice. Yeah. And I've seen you do cryotherapy as well. Exactly. I love it." + }, + { + "start": 3741.7999999999997, + "end": 3748.12, + "text": " Yeah, I do a lot of infrared soreness and cold plunges and I do that. Oh, yes. 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Lots of media attention," + }, + { + "start": 3784.04, + "end": 3790.2, + "text": " lots of pressure. Am I ready for this? I am. So, yeah, maybe that I am stronger than what I" + }, + { + "start": 3790.2, + "end": 3795.7999999999997, + "text": " initially thought. I love that. Fifth and final question we ask this to every guest. If you could" + }, + { + "start": 3795.7999999999997, + "end": 3801.64, + "text": " create one law or rule in the world that everyone had to follow, what would it be? I mean, it's a very" + }, + { + "start": 3801.64, + "end": 3806.9199999999996, + "text": " simple one, but I think being nice and respectful to everybody, I think is extremely important." + }, + { + "start": 3807.08, + "end": 3814.6800000000003, + "text": " And sometimes the world lacks that. This is something that always remind myself in a way it" + }, + { + "start": 3814.6800000000003, + "end": 3821.48, + "text": " comes natural, but I think it's super important to just be nice, generating with people around you" + }, + { + "start": 3821.48, + "end": 3829.4, + "text": " whoever this person is. And if everybody in the world will be like that, I think the world will be" + }, + { + "start": 3829.4, + "end": 3834.92, + "text": " a much better place. Absolutely, Charles, is there anything I haven't asked you that you wanted to" + }, + { + "start": 3834.92, + "end": 3839.0, + "text": " share today that's on your heart, that's in your mind that you're like, yeah, I really wanted to" + }, + { + "start": 3839.0, + "end": 3843.64, + "text": " talk about this and maybe we haven't touched on it. I want to give you the floor to share any." + }, + { + "start": 3843.64, + "end": 3848.6, + "text": " I think it's been a really good talk. So, no, I think you've touched everything." + }, + { + "start": 3848.6, + "end": 3852.84, + "text": " Okay. Good. Yeah. No, I wanted to give you the opportunity because I'm so grateful that we got" + }, + { + "start": 3852.84, + "end": 3858.6800000000003, + "text": " to have this time. And definitely the words I'm going to remember you by is grateful in humble." + }, + { + "start": 3858.6800000000003, + "end": 3863.48, + "text": " I love those words. I love that. That's how you family raised you. I love that theme coming out" + }, + { + "start": 3863.48, + "end": 3870.76, + "text": " in our conversation today. I felt I could feel your genuine. You still have a child like love for" + }, + { + "start": 3870.76, + "end": 3877.48, + "text": " what you do. Oh, these for sure. And I think that that is so rare. It can, you know, we all get tired," + }, + { + "start": 3877.48, + "end": 3883.64, + "text": " jaded, stressed, whatever. 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Very good, how are you?" + }, + { + "start": 68.0, + "end": 73.0, + "text": " I'm great and I feel that now is a great time to have you on the podcast" + }, + { + "start": 73.0, + "end": 76.0, + "text": " because there's so much to discuss about the future" + }, + { + "start": 76.0, + "end": 82.0, + "text": " but can we start by being a bit reflective about the big number that's happening in Mexico?" + }, + { + "start": 82.0, + "end": 86.0, + "text": " 400 races? 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They are all cool." + }, + { + "start": 2380.0, + "end": 2389.0, + "text": " I have a lot of contacts in my phone, but 99% of my usage of my phone is with my family." + }, + { + "start": 2389.0, + "end": 2394.0, + "text": " All the rest is just there, but I'm not a phone guy." + }, + { + "start": 2394.0, + "end": 2399.0, + "text": " Now, I know you've just said you don't like to ask questions, but if this is the final question," + }, + { + "start": 2399.0, + "end": 2404.0, + "text": " if you had a podcast like this, who would be your first guest?" + }, + { + "start": 2404.0, + "end": 2406.0, + "text": " Max Wistartvin." + }, + { + "start": 2406.0, + "end": 2408.0, + "text": " I'd listen to that." + }, + { + "start": 2408.0, + "end": 2409.0, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 2409.0, + "end": 2411.0, + "text": " And I know great to have you on. 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Thanks for having me today." + }, + { + "start": 857.0, + "end": 858.0, + "text": " We're so honored." + }, + { + "start": 858.0, + "end": 859.0, + "text": " We are so happy to have you here." + }, + { + "start": 859.0, + "end": 863.0, + "text": " So you are a Harley Street nutritionist, founder of Retrition." + }, + { + "start": 863.0, + "end": 864.0, + "text": " Author?" + }, + { + "start": 864.0, + "end": 865.0, + "text": " Anything else possible?" + }, + { + "start": 865.0, + "end": 867.0, + "text": " I know. It's a prana." + }, + { + "start": 867.0, + "end": 870.0, + "text": " It's a prana. Yeah, well, we'll touch that one in there, don't we?" + }, + { + "start": 870.0, + "end": 872.0, + "text": " No, I absolutely love what I do." + }, + { + "start": 872.0, + "end": 874.0, + "text": " You need to go over nutritionists for today, I think." + }, + { + "start": 874.0, + "end": 877.0, + "text": " And how did you get into nutrition? 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That's the first thing I have to say is that those tests do not give you the answers at all" + }, + { + "start": 1489.28, + "end": 1495.48, + "text": " And it's often not even the food that you're eating so stress and bloating everything affects it lack of sleep" + }, + { + "start": 1495.48, + "end": 1499.52, + "text": " There's something called a vagus nerve like a nerve that runs from your brain to your belly" + }, + { + "start": 1499.52, + "end": 1505.92, + "text": " And every time you get a little bit anxious or a little bit stressed your body goes into that kind of mode where it draws blood away from" + }, + { + "start": 1505.92, + "end": 1509.28, + "text": " Your stomach and you're going to be more prone to inflammation and bloating" + }, + { + "start": 1509.28, + "end": 1512.44, + "text": " It could even be those high-waisted trousers where wearing girls, you know" + }, + { + "start": 1512.44, + "end": 1516.76, + "text": " It could be something like sat down, hunched over and that's causing the bloating" + }, + { + "start": 1516.76, + "end": 1518.92, + "text": " Emotional stuff what is going on in your life" + }, + { + "start": 1518.92, + "end": 1524.68, + "text": " So a lot of the time those tests are absolute waste of time. 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Can we have donuts, Rianan?" + }, + { + "start": 1627.72, + "end": 1630.28, + "text": " Can we eat donuts? Of course you can, all in moderation might you say, Zanna" + }, + { + "start": 1630.28, + "end": 1631.3200000000002, + "text": " All in moderation" + }, + { + "start": 1631.3200000000002, + "end": 1633.0, + "text": " Moderation, not deprivation" + }, + { + "start": 1633.0, + "end": 1633.64, + "text": " Yeah, amen" + }, + { + "start": 1633.64, + "end": 1635.4, + "text": " That's going to be our new hashtag from this episode" + }, + { + "start": 1635.4, + "end": 1636.92, + "text": " Last week it's Testosterzone" + }, + { + "start": 1636.92, + "end": 1639.3200000000002, + "text": " This week, hashtag moderation, not deprivation" + }, + { + "start": 1639.3200000000002, + "end": 1639.8000000000002, + "text": " Love it" + }, + { + "start": 1639.8000000000002, + "end": 1642.1200000000001, + "text": " So a huge thank you to Rianan for coming in, Rianan" + }, + { + "start": 1642.1200000000001, + "end": 1644.6000000000001, + "text": " You have dropped some knowledge bombs, we hugely appreciate 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It is time for some myth-busting" + }, + { + "start": 1663.56, + "end": 1666.84, + "text": " Every single week we bust a myth that is afloating around out there" + }, + { + "start": 1666.84, + "end": 1670.52, + "text": " Today one of them comes from you guys, Carbio Clowy says" + }, + { + "start": 1670.52, + "end": 1671.48, + "text": " Great name, by the way" + }, + { + "start": 1671.48, + "end": 1672.3600000000001, + "text": " Carbio Clowy" + }, + { + "start": 1672.3600000000001, + "end": 1673.08, + "text": " Love that" + }, + { + "start": 1673.08, + "end": 1678.3600000000001, + "text": " Would love to hear you guys discuss and bust some myths about the hype of protein products" + }, + { + "start": 1678.4399999999998, + "end": 1682.04, + "text": " Like high-price protein versions of cereals and chocolate bars" + }, + { + "start": 1682.76, + "end": 1683.9599999999998, + "text": " What do we think girls?" + }, + { + "start": 1683.9599999999998, + "end": 1689.08, + "text": " I think you 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"text": " To power the sun" + }, + { + "start": 2000.68, + "end": 2002.1200000000001, + "text": " I know, I might take it up actually" + }, + { + "start": 2002.1200000000001, + "end": 2004.3600000000001, + "text": " Because I do try to keep fit" + }, + { + "start": 2004.3600000000001, + "end": 2006.44, + "text": " Eli as you can tell just by looking at me" + }, + { + "start": 2006.44, + "end": 2008.2, + "text": " As I know you do" + }, + { + "start": 2008.2, + "end": 2010.3600000000001, + "text": " And I think those women are pretty encouraging" + }, + { + "start": 2010.3600000000001, + "end": 2012.1200000000001, + "text": " I mean, that's true, look" + }, + { + "start": 2012.1200000000001, + "end": 2013.5600000000002, + "text": " I'm not a fan of oat milk" + }, + { + "start": 2013.5600000000002, + "end": 2014.8400000000001, + "text": " Okay, I'm not a fan of some of the things" + }, + { + "start": 2014.8400000000001, + "end": 2015.72, + "text": " They were talking about" + }, + { + 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I mean not personally but I like" + }, + { + "start": 75.12, + "end": 80.08000000000001, + "text": " it stuff. Yeah and then we'll have a listen to Joe Lysert and then I tell you what else is coming up." + }, + { + "start": 86.16000000000001, + "end": 92.88000000000001, + "text": " Hello this is Joe Lysert's Obsessions. Obsession it's the reason some people have for" + }, + { + "start": 92.88000000000001, + "end": 96.72, + "text": " living and the reason Holly Willoughby's bodyguard has a photo of me on the office wall." + }, + { + "start": 98.08000000000001, + "end": 103.60000000000001, + "text": " Some people collect stamps, some people collect garden gnomes, I collect stalkers and they're all" + }, + { + "start": 103.67999999999999, + "end": 109.75999999999999, + "text": " here this evening. Every week we'll be talking to people about the things they're obsessed by" + }, + { + "start": 109.75999999999999, + "end": 114.72, + "text": " and providing a safe space for the famous and they're not so famous to confess their guilty secrets." + }, + { + "start": 114.72, + "end": 120.63999999999999, + "text": " So if you want to find out about Aiman Holmes' fixation with Spicy Sauce or E17 star Brian Harvey's" + }, + { + "start": 120.63999999999999, + "end": 126.08, + "text": " collection of old towels, you've come to the right place. I will start off by telling you about" + }, + { + "start": 126.08, + "end": 131.6, + "text": " just a few things I'm obsessed with. This is something I cannot get enough of. It's the sound of" + }, + { + "start": 131.6, + "end": 136.07999999999998, + "text": " Jessie from the pop band Little Mix playing a game where you have to imitate a Jamaican" + }, + { + "start": 137.51999999999998, + "end": 142.79999999999998, + "text": " accent. Here it is. Oh, are you? Oh, my name is..." + }, + { + "start": 147.76, + "end": 153.04, + "text": " I think I watched that clip about three times a day and I'd urge the listeners at home to seek it" + }, + { + "start": 153.04, + "end": 158.0, + "text": " out if they haven't seen it just for the added value of Jessie's face. Hard to explain but imagine a" + }, + { + "start": 158.0, + "end": 162.72, + "text": " woman trying to eat a sava loist strapped to her forehead using only her lower jaw and you're not far off." + }, + { + "start": 164.88, + "end": 170.32, + "text": " Now this is one of the most wonderful things in the world. This is the sound of Maggie Smith saying" + }, + { + "start": 170.32, + "end": 180.72, + "text": " the word delicious. It is delicious. You might think that audio is taken from Downton Abbey but it's" + }, + { + "start": 180.72, + "end": 186.24, + "text": " actually just a recording of her having a Greg Stakebaker weather be services. Now we have an audience" + }, + { + "start": 186.24, + "end": 192.48000000000002, + "text": " here full of obsessives all ready to confess their secret shame. Audience shout out, I'm a disgrace!" + }, + { + "start": 194.96, + "end": 200.72, + "text": " That felt great. We also have some celebrity guests to talk about their own hidden passions as well" + }, + { + "start": 200.72, + "end": 206.56, + "text": " as meeting this week's VOP, a very obsessed person who will be sharing the details of their own" + }, + { + "start": 206.56, + "end": 211.92000000000002, + "text": " rather unusual area of interest. Whoever I decide has the best obsession of the week, I will be awarding" + }, + { + "start": 212.16, + "end": 221.2, + "text": " with this the exclusive Joe Lysett Subcessions tea tray. A tea tray? Why is that you ask?" + }, + { + "start": 221.2, + "end": 226.16, + "text": " Because for some reason my email to the producer got auto corrected to tea tray when it was meant to be" + }, + { + "start": 226.16, + "end": 233.83999999999997, + "text": " 10 grand. So let's say hello to this week's celebrity obsessives. Comedian Catherine Ryan and" + }, + { + "start": 233.84, + "end": 242.88, + "text": " Radio One DJ Greg James. Catherine Greg, welcome to Obsessions. So I feel on occasions like this," + }, + { + "start": 242.88, + "end": 249.04, + "text": " it's very important to ask a relaxing informal question to break the ice. So when did each of you" + }, + { + "start": 249.04, + "end": 255.92000000000002, + "text": " last eat an egg? Catherine, remember the last time you ate an egg? I hardwilled an egg and then put" + }, + { + "start": 255.92000000000002, + "end": 261.6, + "text": " it into a salad probably three days ago, Joe, three days. Three days. Greg can you beat that?" + }, + { + "start": 261.6, + "end": 270.32000000000005, + "text": " I actually had an egg this morning. Wow. Yeah. That got a really great reaction I wasn't expecting." + }, + { + "start": 271.20000000000005, + "end": 277.28000000000003, + "text": " I almost patronise you. Catherine, you host a show called How Do You Get So Rich?" + }, + { + "start": 277.28000000000003, + "end": 280.8, + "text": " And am I right in thinking that in your case the answer is white-privileent." + }, + { + "start": 285.12, + "end": 290.08000000000004, + "text": " So best on what I know about you Catherine, I'm going to guess that your obsession is either the" + }, + { + "start": 290.08, + "end": 298.4, + "text": " social reform policy of 18th century Lithuania or carpentry. Am I right? No. What is your obsession?" + }, + { + "start": 298.4, + "end": 305.84, + "text": " It's like carpentry. It's Kardashians. Confidence obsession is the Kardashians. For our listeners who" + }, + { + "start": 305.84, + "end": 311.12, + "text": " don't know the Kardashians are a reality TV family. Here's a flavour of the TV show keeping up with" + }, + { + "start": 311.12, + "end": 318.56, + "text": " the Kardashians to add to your cultural education. Okay, Kylie, so you're moving into your house soon." + }, + { + "start": 319.12, + "end": 325.28000000000003, + "text": " Do you know how to do your own laundry? No. That's the Kardashians." + }, + { + "start": 328.0, + "end": 332.16, + "text": " So for the benefit of people who don't know who the Kardashians are, like tell me who are they?" + }, + { + "start": 332.16, + "end": 340.0, + "text": " To me, there's so much more than just a reality show. They are a matriarchy of shape shifting sisters" + }, + { + "start": 341.2, + "end": 343.6, + "text": " who destroy men or turn them to women." + }, + { + "start": 349.36, + "end": 352.96, + "text": " Very much a sci-fi program." + }, + { + "start": 354.56, + "end": 357.76, + "text": " Can you explain the family tree of them? Because there's a lot of them out there." + }, + { + "start": 357.76, + "end": 364.64, + "text": " Oh, there are so many and that's what makes it fun. So Robert Kardashian Sr. defended OJ in the" + }, + { + "start": 364.64, + "end": 368.08, + "text": " OJ Simpson murder trial and then... Yes, Ross from Friends. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 369.84000000000003, + "end": 375.92, + "text": " And then he married Chris and then they started having babies right away. They were this rich" + }, + { + "start": 375.92, + "end": 382.0, + "text": " family. I love them, Joe, because I think it's become fashionable to disparage the Kardashians and" + }, + { + "start": 382.0, + "end": 386.56, + "text": " just say, what do they even do? But you seem to respect them for their business acumen, don't you?" + }, + { + "start": 386.56, + "end": 393.28000000000003, + "text": " I think they have great business acumen and granted Kim shot to fame when a tape was released" + }, + { + "start": 393.28000000000003, + "end": 399.36, + "text": " like an intimate videotape, but she didn't create that culture. That culture existed and then she" + }, + { + "start": 399.36, + "end": 404.0, + "text": " found a way to turn it around and thrive in it. And then I just like them. I think they pay tax," + }, + { + "start": 404.0, + "end": 409.44, + "text": " they support each other. They're really nice and they have political issues that they'll insert" + }, + { + "start": 409.44, + "end": 414.88, + "text": " into the show sort of like a Trojan horse. 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And unfortunately I was a little bit" + }, + { + "start": 487.92, + "end": 493.52000000000004, + "text": " married at this awards. And I usually am not. It really happened by accident because I'd been doing" + }, + { + "start": 493.52000000000004, + "end": 501.28000000000003, + "text": " this Tequila podcast. And then... Oh, we are doing the wrong show. I'm a customer. I went up to her." + }, + { + "start": 501.28000000000003, + "end": 505.92, + "text": " And I was like, Courtney, and I thought, see, the trouble with reality television when you feel that" + }, + { + "start": 505.92, + "end": 509.84000000000003, + "text": " you're led into their lives and you get to know these people is you really believe that you know" + }, + { + "start": 509.91999999999996, + "end": 516.0799999999999, + "text": " these people and you don't. And so I had this era of familiarity. I was like, Courtney, I love you so" + }, + { + "start": 516.0799999999999, + "end": 525.12, + "text": " much. You need to leave Scott. A bold intro, I'd say. Yeah. It was not appropriate. It's just like," + }, + { + "start": 525.12, + "end": 530.0799999999999, + "text": " well, I don't know. Why? Where would I go? And I'm like, anywhere. Burn the house down. Leave it." + }, + { + "start": 531.68, + "end": 535.6, + "text": " Okay, Catherine, I want to see how obsessive you are about the Kardashian. So we're going to play" + }, + { + "start": 535.6, + "end": 541.28, + "text": " a little game. It's called a spot of Keepee Uppy. Now the Kardashian's TV show is called Keeping" + }, + { + "start": 541.28, + "end": 546.4, + "text": " Up With The Kardashians. We want to know if you can tell us which of the following storylines are" + }, + { + "start": 546.4, + "end": 551.76, + "text": " genuine episodes of Keeping Up With The Kardashians and which are from the BBC sitcom Keeping Up Appearances?" + }, + { + "start": 554.96, + "end": 560.08, + "text": " We've changed the names in the Keeping Up Appearances storylines to be members of the Kardashian" + }, + { + "start": 560.08, + "end": 563.6800000000001, + "text": " family. So it's not as easy as spotting which ones have higher symptoms and richer than them." + }, + { + "start": 564.64, + "end": 571.76, + "text": " Okay, first one, Kim and Chloe by Mason A Fish. Chris tells the family that she wants to plan her funeral." + }, + { + "start": 573.3599999999999, + "end": 577.4399999999999, + "text": " Is that Keeping Up With The Kardashians? Or Keeping Up With The Kardashians?" + }, + { + "start": 579.1999999999999, + "end": 580.9599999999999, + "text": " Yes, you're listening to Radio 4." + }, + { + "start": 582.7199999999999, + "end": 586.0, + "text": " That's Keeping Up With The Kardashians. Totally. Correct." + }, + { + "start": 587.04, + "end": 589.76, + "text": " They went to this beautiful burial place." + }, + { + "start": 589.76, + "end": 596.4, + "text": " Next one, Kim is searching for her Dream Kitchen Worktop while Chloe thinks she may have athletes" + }, + { + "start": 596.4, + "end": 602.8, + "text": " foot. He'll be on the appearances. Seriously? That's the Kardashian." + }, + { + "start": 604.56, + "end": 608.48, + "text": " Although, listening to that plotline, I can quite understand why you're obsessed. It's riveting" + }, + { + "start": 608.48, + "end": 615.2, + "text": " stuff, isn't it? And let's do one more. 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Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 638.7199999999999, + "end": 647.4399999999999, + "text": " Now comes the point in the show where I talk to what we call in the business normal people." + }, + { + "start": 648.56, + "end": 651.1999999999999, + "text": " Never met one before but I hear they're truly awful." + }, + { + "start": 652.8, + "end": 656.0, + "text": " As our audience were coming in, we asked them to write down any obsessions they have on a" + }, + { + "start": 656.0, + "end": 660.3199999999999, + "text": " piece of paper and then ask them to toss it in this bowl along with their car keys." + }, + { + "start": 660.9599999999999, + "end": 665.28, + "text": " Let's have a run into round and see what I can find. First one." + }, + { + "start": 666.16, + "end": 672.16, + "text": " Oh, Isabelle Diaz Gallagher. We put plants taking photos of plants normally end up killing them," + }, + { + "start": 672.16, + "end": 680.56, + "text": " even xenophytes. Xenophytes. Xenophytes. 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She's really weird, isn't she?" + }, + { + "start": 759.0400000000001, + "end": 760.64, + "text": " In the most glorious way." + }, + { + "start": 761.76, + "end": 765.12, + "text": " What we live off grid in a log cabin. I hope so." + }, + { + "start": 767.36, + "end": 769.44, + "text": " Louisa, can I just ask, are you a hostage?" + }, + { + "start": 772.0, + "end": 774.96, + "text": " Yes. I didn't choose this life." + }, + { + "start": 774.96, + "end": 778.48, + "text": " I remember Paul Swaluiza and Bridget." + }, + { + "start": 782.48, + "end": 786.4000000000001, + "text": " Now, Greg James, thank you for coming to the show. Greg, in your career so far," + }, + { + "start": 786.4000000000001, + "end": 790.88, + "text": " do you think you've put to bed the old myth that being a radio won presenter makes you in any way cool?" + }, + { + "start": 792.88, + "end": 794.0, + "text": " Well, I'm on your show." + }, + { + "start": 797.84, + "end": 802.32, + "text": " You recently completed a Greg Athalon where you climbed the biggest peaks in the UK." + }, + { + "start": 802.32, + "end": 806.8000000000001, + "text": " Andrew co-hosted an edition of Sounds Like Friday Night with Liam from One Direction." + }, + { + "start": 806.8000000000001, + "end": 808.1600000000001, + "text": " Which one damaged you more?" + }, + { + "start": 809.9200000000001, + "end": 818.0, + "text": " The Greg Athalon was amazing. Tell us what you did. It was incredible." + }, + { + "start": 818.0, + "end": 821.2, + "text": " Over a couple of weeks, because the beast from the east sort of halted everything," + }, + { + "start": 821.2, + "end": 827.5200000000001, + "text": " I climbed Ben Nevis, Snowden and Scarple Pike and then cycled the distance between them," + }, + { + "start": 827.5200000000001, + "end": 830.32, + "text": " which is just quite a long way. It's nearly 500 miles." + }, + { + "start": 830.4000000000001, + "end": 834.0, + "text": " We did it over a couple of weeks and managed to raise a million quid for sport relief." + }, + { + "start": 838.32, + "end": 843.0400000000001, + "text": " So, based on what I already know about you, I'm going to guess your obsession is either" + }, + { + "start": 843.0400000000001, + "end": 846.24, + "text": " sheep farming in the lake district or murder." + }, + { + "start": 847.2800000000001, + "end": 848.32, + "text": " Am I right?" + }, + { + "start": 848.32, + "end": 851.2800000000001, + "text": " My obsession is cricket. That's quite a session." + }, + { + "start": 852.0, + "end": 853.0400000000001, + "text": " Some cricket fans in." + }, + { + "start": 854.0, + "end": 859.12, + "text": " I've only just found out about football, so why should I care about another sport as well?" + }, + { + "start": 861.2800000000001, + "end": 865.2, + "text": " Where do we begin? 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He's kind of a fascinating person." + }, + { + "start": 907.0400000000001, + "end": 912.96, + "text": " I don't know any of them, so I mean mine's Wayne Rooney, but that's the answer I give for every sport." + }, + { + "start": 912.96, + "end": 914.24, + "text": " He played for Australia." + }, + { + "start": 914.24, + "end": 915.84, + "text": " He was a fabulous diver." + }, + { + "start": 917.84, + "end": 921.52, + "text": " I was really obsessed with being a groundsman when I was a kid." + }, + { + "start": 921.52, + "end": 924.88, + "text": " I was like, completely obsessed with grass." + }, + { + "start": 926.88, + "end": 932.5600000000001, + "text": " To that extent, we didn't have a very big garden, but we had like a square bit of grass." + }, + { + "start": 932.5600000000001, + "end": 938.32, + "text": " And I would try and preserve it and make it sort of make it into a bit of a cricket pitch." + }, + { + "start": 938.32, + "end": 943.84, + "text": " I put a shower curtain over it so that the rain would stay off it so that the next day it would be like," + }, + { + "start": 943.84, + "end": 947.2800000000001, + "text": " it's dry, I can play. It was quite a lonely childhood." + }, + { + "start": 948.72, + "end": 952.48, + "text": " There was something about it that I just, I really connected with and I'd played a lot on" + }, + { + "start": 952.48, + "end": 957.12, + "text": " I was at school and I still go with my dad and I sort of love it as a day out more than anything," + }, + { + "start": 957.12, + "end": 960.88, + "text": " just because you sit and you watch it and you can dip in, you get a bit of the story." + }, + { + "start": 960.88, + "end": 964.72, + "text": " I think that's the thing with Test Match Cricket in particular, is that people go," + }, + { + "start": 964.72, + "end": 969.2800000000001, + "text": " well it's five days so boring at the end of the five days, it's a draw, what does that even mean?" + }, + { + "start": 969.2800000000001, + "end": 972.8000000000001, + "text": " I always say it's a bit like getting into a properly good novel." + }, + { + "start": 972.8, + "end": 976.24, + "text": " And if you really invest in it and you know what all the characters are doing and you know" + }, + { + "start": 976.24, + "end": 980.4, + "text": " the little battles that are going on and you know how the story develops and you really get into it," + }, + { + "start": 980.4, + "end": 984.16, + "text": " but I do understand if you're truly passionate about something, I think you've got to understand" + }, + { + "start": 984.16, + "end": 989.04, + "text": " why other people think it's awful. And I do, but I try and convince people of it." + }, + { + "start": 989.04, + "end": 990.9599999999999, + "text": " So it's basically Kardashians with bats." + }, + { + "start": 990.9599999999999, + "end": 991.28, + "text": " Correct." + }, + { + "start": 993.04, + "end": 996.56, + "text": " I mean, Kardashians played cricket, would you be interested in the Kardashians?" + }, + { + "start": 996.56, + "end": 1000.24, + "text": " Of course. Yeah. I'm awful for trying to make it appear to as many people as possible." + }, + { + "start": 1000.32, + "end": 1004.0, + "text": " And I think they do do wacky things like that. They have DJs that go along and play" + }, + { + "start": 1004.0, + "end": 1004.5600000000001, + "text": " what?" + }, + { + "start": 1004.5600000000001, + "end": 1008.96, + "text": " On the boundary and stuff. So when there's a six or four, they're like, the DJ starts playing and" + }, + { + "start": 1008.96, + "end": 1012.48, + "text": " hyping the crowd and they have fireworks and like flame throwers and all that kind of stuff." + }, + { + "start": 1012.48, + "end": 1013.2, + "text": " At cricket." + }, + { + "start": 1013.2, + "end": 1014.0, + "text": " At cricket." + }, + { + "start": 1014.0, + "end": 1014.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1014.4, + "end": 1017.44, + "text": " So you played when you were younger, but you also played in charity matches." + }, + { + "start": 1017.44, + "end": 1020.96, + "text": " You played in the Test Match Special 60th anniversary match." + }, + { + "start": 1020.96, + "end": 1021.6800000000001, + "text": " I do, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1021.6800000000001, + "end": 1023.6, + "text": " And you dropped a catch." + }, + { + "start": 1023.6, + "end": 1025.1200000000001, + "text": " I don't know what that means." + }, + { + "start": 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"text": " And well, we have a clip." + }, + { + "start": 1054.4, + "end": 1055.28, + "text": " So should we just listen to that?" + }, + { + "start": 1055.28, + "end": 1056.08, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1056.08, + "end": 1058.08, + "text": " If they want to watch it, I'm slipping on." + }, + { + "start": 1058.08, + "end": 1058.88, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1059.0400000000002, + "end": 1060.96, + "text": " Ah, I got dropped a catch." + }, + { + "start": 1060.96, + "end": 1062.8000000000002, + "text": " Just dropped it because I'm on a phone." + }, + { + "start": 1062.8000000000002, + "end": 1063.5200000000002, + "text": " What are you doing?" + }, + { + "start": 1065.2, + "end": 1066.0800000000002, + "text": " It's really bad, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 1066.0800000000002, + "end": 1066.48, + "text": " I'm all right." + }, + { + "start": 1066.48, + "end": 1067.7600000000002, + "text": " Just dropped a live at Radio One." + }, + { + "start": 1067.7600000000002, + "end": 1068.24, + "text": " Sorry, mate." + }, + { + "start": 1068.24, + "end": 1068.8000000000002, + "text": " I'll take a look." + }, + { + "start": 1068.8000000000002, + "end": 1070.64, + "text": " We'll wrap this up if you want, Greg." + }, + { + "start": 1070.64, + "end": 1073.44, + "text": " So, but you might have..." + }, + { + "start": 1074.88, + "end": 1075.8400000000001, + "text": " Please do not blow up that." + }, + { + "start": 1076.72, + "end": 1079.6000000000001, + "text": " But you might have heard the person in the background going," + }, + { + "start": 1079.6000000000001, + "end": 1080.5600000000002, + "text": " what are you doing?" + }, + { + "start": 1080.5600000000002, + "end": 1081.0400000000002, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1081.0400000000002, + "end": 1082.0800000000002, + "text": " That's Michael Vaughan." + }, + { + "start": 1083.0400000000002, + "end": 1084.24, + "text": " ex-England captain." + }, + { + "start": 1084.24, + "end": 1086.0, + "text": " I mean, it was a low point for sure." + }, + { + "start": 1086.0, + "end": 1087.92, + "text": " I like him saying, we'll wrap this up if you want." + }, + { + "start": 1087.92, + "end": 1088.8000000000002, + "text": " Like, I'm getting..." + }, + { + "start": 1088.8000000000002, + "end": 1090.16, + "text": " It's getting, I feel." + }, + { + "start": 1091.1200000000001, + "end": 1094.48, + "text": " Actually, the first international cricket match I'm reading here" + }, + { + "start": 1094.48, + "end": 1096.48, + "text": " was between the US and Canada." + }, + { + "start": 1096.48, + "end": 1097.44, + "text": " Wow." + }, + { + "start": 1097.44, + "end": 1098.64, + "text": " Picture interest, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 1099.8400000000001, + "end": 1100.4, + "text": " Let's move on." + }, + { + "start": 1102.24, + "end": 1106.64, + "text": " We want to play a game with you to explore your cricket obsession." + }, + { + "start": 1106.64, + "end": 1109.6000000000001, + "text": " Now, some people say that cricket goes on a bit too long," + }, + { + "start": 1109.6000000000001, + "end": 1111.68, + "text": " and I can tell you exactly how long it goes on for." + }, + { + "start": 1111.68, + "end": 1113.8400000000001, + "text": " As you said, a test match lasts five days" + }, + { + "start": 1113.8400000000001, + "end": 1117.6000000000001, + "text": " and has the potential to contain 30 hours of actual playing time." + }, + { + "start": 1118.0, + "end": 1119.3600000000001, + "text": " So, in this game, Greg," + }, + { + "start": 1119.3600000000001, + "end": 1121.3600000000001, + "text": " I'm going to give you a list of activities." + }, + { + "start": 1121.3600000000001, + "end": 1123.1200000000001, + "text": " For each one, I want you to tell me," + }, + { + "start": 1123.1200000000001, + "end": 1125.28, + "text": " does this take longer than a test match?" + }, + { + "start": 1126.0800000000002, + "end": 1128.0800000000002, + "text": " Does this take 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+ "end": 1203.68, + "text": " But you can have a nice day out. 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I have no idea." + }, + { + "start": 1257.04, + "end": 1258.96, + "text": " James, thanks for sharing your time." + }, + { + "start": 1258.96, + "end": 1260.32, + "text": " CHEERING" + }, + { + "start": 1260.32, + "end": 1261.28, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 1262.8799999999999, + "end": 1265.1999999999998, + "text": " Time to speak to our audience again." + }, + { + "start": 1265.1999999999998, + "end": 1266.48, + "text": " Jennifer Hall." + }, + { + "start": 1266.48, + "end": 1267.36, + "text": " Oh, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1267.36, + "end": 1268.56, + "text": " So, January, you're from?" + }, + { + "start": 1268.56, + "end": 1270.24, + "text": " I'm from Puntipede, South Wales." + }, + { + "start": 1270.24, + "end": 1271.4399999999998, + "text": " Oh, God." + }, + { + "start": 1271.4399999999998, + "end": 1273.4399999999998, + "text": " You collect small things." + }, + { + "start": 1273.4399999999998, + "end": 1275.4399999999998, + "text": " I do. I have some small things for you to look at." + }, + { + "start": 1275.4399999999998, + "end": 1277.4399999999998, + "text": " I should like to come and see some of my small things." + }, + { + "start": 1277.4399999999998, + "end": 1277.9199999999998, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 1277.9199999999998, + "end": 1279.4399999999998, + "text": " LAUGHTER" + }, + { + "start": 1279.4399999999998, + "end": 1282.56, + "text": " It's like a small version of other things." + }, + { + "start": 1282.56, + "end": 1284.0, + "text": " Little tiny things. Little tiny things." + }, + { + "start": 1284.0, + "end": 1285.28, + "text": " That's my whole collection." + }, + { + "start": 1285.28, + "end": 1287.52, + "text": " That's just a selection of the collection." + }, + { + "start": 1287.52, + "end": 1289.2, + "text": " How big is a collection?" + }, + { + "start": 1289.2, + "end": 1290.48, + "text": " Um, quite small." + }, + { + "start": 1290.48, + "end": 1291.68, + "text": " LAUGHTER" + }, + { + "start": 1291.68, + "end": 1293.2, + "text": " LAUGHTER" + }, + { + "start": 1293.2, + "end": 1297.36, + "text": " But there are quite a number of things in the small collection." + }, + { + "start": 1297.36, + "end": 1298.4, + "text": " Little fork there." + }, + { + "start": 1298.4, + "end": 1302.56, + "text": " I think my favourite is this tiny little teacup." + }, + { + "start": 1302.56, + "end": 1303.2, + "text": " That was a..." + }, + { + "start": 1303.2, + "end": 1304.32, + "text": " And it's got Jim Rittman." + }, + { + "start": 1304.32, + "end": 1305.04, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 1305.04, + "end": 1306.24, + "text": " How adorable is that?" + }, + { + "start": 1306.24, + "end": 1308.24, + "text": " That was a present a few years ago from my sister." + }, + { + "start": 1308.24, + "end": 1309.44, + "text": " Do you remember by anything, Pig?" + }, + { + "start": 1309.44, + "end": 1310.64, + "text": " I..." + }, + { + "start": 1310.64, + "end": 1313.68, + "text": " I find normal sized things for day-to-day life." + }, + { + "start": 1313.76, + "end": 1315.3600000000001, + "text": " Right. But for the collection, just normal things." + }, + { + "start": 1315.3600000000001, + "end": 1316.5600000000002, + "text": " For the magic times." + }, + { + "start": 1316.5600000000002, + "end": 1317.3600000000001, + "text": " LAUGHTER" + }, + { + "start": 1317.3600000000001, + "end": 1318.8, + "text": " Well, I think they're really lovely." + }, + { + "start": 1318.8, + "end": 1320.16, + "text": " They're really sweet and adorable." + }, + { + "start": 1320.16, + "end": 1322.3200000000002, + "text": " And I want to collect these things myself now." + }, + { + "start": 1322.3200000000002, + "end": 1323.04, + "text": " It's so..." + }, + { + "start": 1323.04, + "end": 1323.8400000000001, + "text": " They're so lovely." + }, + { + "start": 1323.8400000000001, + "end": 1324.88, + "text": " Jen, everyone." + }, + { + "start": 1324.88, + "end": 1326.16, + "text": " APPLAUSE" + }, + { + "start": 1326.16, + "end": 1327.04, + "text": " Lovely." + }, + { + "start": 1328.8, + "end": 1330.4, + "text": " Where's Sophie Veezy?" + }, + { + "start": 1330.4, + "end": 1331.6000000000001, + "text": " Hello, Sophie." + }, + { + "start": 1331.6000000000001, + "end": 1333.6000000000001, + "text": " You've mentioned the Kardashians." + }, + { + "start": 1333.6000000000001, + "end": 1334.72, + "text": " I love the Kardashians." + }, + { + "start": 1334.72, + "end": 1335.52, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1335.52, + "end": 1339.28, + "text": " I would have bit like a step extra to what you did, Catherine." + }, + { + "start": 1339.28, + "end": 1341.3600000000001, + "text": " I woke up at three o'clock in the morning" + }, + { + "start": 1341.36, + "end": 1343.84, + "text": " and tried to meet the Kardashians at Westfield." + }, + { + "start": 1343.84, + "end": 1344.56, + "text": " Ah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1344.56, + "end": 1346.4799999999998, + "text": " Clocked with the Winter Wrong Westfield." + }, + { + "start": 1346.4799999999998, + "end": 1348.0, + "text": " LAUGHTER" 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"text": " from a guy called Stephen Alley who you won't have heard of." + }, + { + "start": 63.0, + "end": 67.0, + "text": " He's a refugee from Damascus who spent time in Calais jungle" + }, + { + "start": 67.0, + "end": 70.0, + "text": " and is now doing some stand-up comedy in the UK." + }, + { + "start": 70.0, + "end": 73.0, + "text": " And they're all part of this wonderful mix that takes a theme" + }, + { + "start": 73.0, + "end": 76.0, + "text": " from adulthood and impacts it and explores it." + }, + { + "start": 76.0, + "end": 79.0, + "text": " The first one I've got for you is about tattoos" + }, + { + "start": 79.0, + "end": 82.0, + "text": " and whether tattoos are a good idea or not." + }, + { + "start": 83.0, + "end": 85.0, + "text": " Nothing more grown up than getting a good tattoo." + }, + { + "start": 85.0, + "end": 87.0, + "text": " Alright, great." + }, + { + "start": 87.0, + "end": 88.0, + "text": " Well, let's give it a listen." + }, + { + "start": 88.0, + "end": 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Go right out." + }, + { + "start": 648.0, + "end": 651.0, + "text": " I was dating someone and I called a peachy." + }, + { + "start": 651.0, + "end": 653.0, + "text": " I know. I know." + }, + { + "start": 653.0, + "end": 657.0, + "text": " I'm like I'm very romantic." + }, + { + "start": 657.0, + "end": 659.0, + "text": " What can I say?" + }, + { + "start": 659.0, + "end": 664.0, + "text": " I think a rule should be that the tattoo artist should google the thing before they do it." + }, + { + "start": 664.0, + "end": 668.0, + "text": " So I had, I was a teenager and I got this tattoo. 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I wish I could throw it in the bin." + }, + { + "start": 698.0, + "end": 702.0, + "text": " We all hate it. All the Beatles hated it. It's just a pile of poo." + }, + { + "start": 702.0, + "end": 705.0, + "text": " And then I found out that pony is a euphemism for cocaine." + }, + { + "start": 705.0, + "end": 709.0, + "text": " Yeah. So I have a tattoo that says I dig cocaine." + }, + { + "start": 709.0, + "end": 714.0, + "text": " It was meant to be like a monument to the fact that I was not doing. 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I don't want any of the same as everybody else." + }, + { + "start": 796.0, + "end": 797.0, + "text": " It's stupid." + }, + { + "start": 797.0, + "end": 800.0, + "text": " Here's the thing with Lara and Maya, right?" + }, + { + "start": 800.0, + "end": 805.0, + "text": " So Lara's kind of frustrated with her daughter because she wants to go and go to her septum pierced," + }, + { + "start": 805.0, + "end": 808.0, + "text": " which by the way, sounds very, very painful in my opinion." + }, + { + "start": 808.0, + "end": 810.0, + "text": " You can all differ later." + }, + { + "start": 810.0, + "end": 815.0, + "text": " So one of the facts that I found out was about one of the oldest mummies that has ever been dug up." + }, + { + "start": 815.0, + "end": 818.0, + "text": " Right? And his name was Otsi. 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958.0, + "end": 959.0, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 959.0, + "end": 963.0, + "text": " I'll just play you the clips of me freaking out." + }, + { + "start": 963.0, + "end": 967.0, + "text": " So I just got a phone to a couple of pierces." + }, + { + "start": 968.0, + "end": 971.0, + "text": " I'm just going to go and get a simple ear piercing, just walk in." + }, + { + "start": 971.0, + "end": 974.0, + "text": " A lot of people weren't okay with me recording it." + }, + { + "start": 974.0, + "end": 977.0, + "text": " Not really sure what they didn't want me recording." + }, + { + "start": 977.0, + "end": 984.0, + "text": " Anyway, I know most 13-year-old girls do this with no fear, but I am shitting myself." + }, + { + "start": 984.0, + "end": 986.0, + "text": " And I am not looking forward to it at all." + }, + { + "start": 986.0, + "end": 988.0, + "text": " All my love is a reaction." + }, + { + "start": 988.0, + "end": 990.0, + "text": " Guys, please." + }, + { + "start": 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Will they judge me?" + }, + { + "start": 1093.0, + "end": 1097.0, + "text": " And they're judging me anyway, so I didn't really make a difference." + }, + { + "start": 1097.0, + "end": 1098.0, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1098.0, + "end": 1099.0, + "text": " I feel weird having it." + }, + { + "start": 1099.0, + "end": 1103.0, + "text": " What I never realised is how much admin goes into this." + }, + { + "start": 1103.0, + "end": 1104.0, + "text": " Really?" + }, + { + "start": 1104.0, + "end": 1105.0, + "text": " Yeah, you've got to wash it." + }, + { + "start": 1105.0, + "end": 1108.0, + "text": " I was like spraying my hair with saline solution last night." + }, + { + "start": 1108.0, + "end": 1110.0, + "text": " I mean, my gene, personal care and..." + }, + { + "start": 1110.0, + "end": 1111.0, + "text": " Yeah, but like a bloody..." + }, + { + "start": 1111.0, + "end": 1115.0, + "text": " I'm fairly hygiene, I shower once a week, it would be day." + }, + { + "start": 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apparently it has to be small at this stage." + }, + { + "start": 1142.0, + "end": 1143.0, + "text": " It really suits you, man." + }, + { + "start": 1143.0, + "end": 1145.0, + "text": " Thank you very much, mate." + }, + { + "start": 1145.0, + "end": 1146.0, + "text": " I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 1146.0, + "end": 1152.0, + "text": " I'm kind of tempted to keep it in because I'm going for a new hip, cool, Ned Sedgwick aesthetic." + }, + { + "start": 1152.0, + "end": 1153.0, + "text": " Are you?" + }, + { + "start": 1153.0, + "end": 1154.0, + "text": " Well, I'm growing a bit." + }, + { + "start": 1154.0, + "end": 1155.0, + "text": " Yeah, I noticed that." + }, + { + "start": 1155.0, + "end": 1156.0, + "text": " So, it's a struggle." + }, + { + "start": 1156.0, + "end": 1157.0, + "text": " It makes stop attempts." + }, + { + "start": 1157.0, + "end": 1158.0, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1158.0, + "end": 1162.0, + "text": " You've got to get over your fear of the 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Then you'll find AutoCorrect helpful." + }, + { + "start": 20.0, + "end": 22.0, + "text": " As my tell them, coach Charlie's tip of the week." + }, + { + "start": 22.0, + "end": 29.0, + "text": " Listen to our podcast with me, coach Charlie Melton on any podcast and platform or on the MPB Public Media app." + }, + { + "start": 30.0, + "end": 37.0, + "text": " Hello, thanks for tuning in to Everyday Tech on MPB Think Radio." + }, + { + "start": 37.0, + "end": 42.0, + "text": " Abraham Nanny here with my friends Sabir Abdel-Hawk and IT expert." + }, + { + "start": 42.0, + "end": 46.0, + "text": " So here we go again another week and we have even more hacks to talk about." + }, + { + "start": 46.0, + "end": 54.0, + "text": " From small time hacks like Spotify uploads on up to potentially the largest hack of all time in the National Public Data Breach." + }, + { + "start": 54.0, + "end": 64.0, + "text": " It really seems like we can't catch a break but luckily the NSA has also issued a press release recently detailing how you can prevent cyber attacks on your personal smart devices." + }, + { + "start": 64.0, + "end": 67.0, + "text": " We'll share those tips and explain them to you later." + }, + { + "start": 67.0, + "end": 72.0, + "text": " Email everydaytech at mpbonline.org if you have any questions or comments." + }, + { + "start": 72.0, + "end": 77.0, + "text": " Now Sabir, how you doing man? 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We've got some" + }, + { + "start": 1403.04, + "end": 1406.4, + "text": " Those that have done this to other countries or whatever it wouldn't surprise them" + }, + { + "start": 1406.88, + "end": 1410.08, + "text": " At the same time, you know, again, just that's just again" + }, + { + "start": 1410.4, + "end": 1414.24, + "text": " speculated but um, there's all kind of things that happen" + }, + { + "start": 1414.64, + "end": 1417.44, + "text": " uh against adversaries and everything else like that" + }, + { + "start": 1417.52, + "end": 1421.44, + "text": " But sometimes it happens to us and people like oh my god like this happens all the time" + }, + { + "start": 1421.92, + "end": 1427.68, + "text": " Just like when you when you see what happens when when the crime happens on foreign soil and you think about terrible" + }, + { + "start": 1427.68, + "end": 1434.3200000000002, + "text": " It is and you know you kind of hope for the best that things are not foolish and everything over here stuff happens" + }, + { + "start": 1434.8, + "end": 1436.8, + "text": " Right to this really you know" + }, + { + "start": 1437.44, + "end": 1442.64, + "text": " Trust and trust the people that are able to do the things that they can't and go from there. Yeah, absolutely" + }, + { + "start": 1443.1200000000001, + "end": 1446.5600000000002, + "text": " Well now that we've got everyone bummed out and scared um" + }, + { + "start": 1447.1200000000001, + "end": 1450.88, + "text": " Let's let's try to get back to it. Thanks a lot to be her enable" + }, + { + "start": 1451.6000000000001, + "end": 1452.5600000000002, + "text": " He's there" + }, + { + "start": 1452.5600000000002, + "end": 1458.0800000000002, + "text": " Jermaine have you checked the website to see if you're okay. No, I don't never check to see if I'm okay" + }, + { + "start": 1458.0800000000002, + "end": 1464.48, + "text": " I just see if something's gonna happen to me later and then I go from there. I'm sure that's the appropriate, you know response" + }, + { + "start": 1465.5200000000002, + "end": 1467.5200000000002, + "text": " No news it's good news" + }, + { + "start": 1468.8000000000002, + "end": 1472.16, + "text": " I guess so but you could always be cautious and I have no money" + }, + { + "start": 1475.6000000000001, + "end": 1477.3600000000001, + "text": " I get it I get it" + }, + { + "start": 1477.36, + "end": 1480.9599999999998, + "text": " We're glad you found our show every day tech on MPB think radio" + }, + { + "start": 1481.12, + "end": 1486.1599999999999, + "text": " This is Abram nanny still here with Sabir Abdul Hock who is ready to answer your questions" + }, + { + "start": 1486.7199999999998, + "end": 1490.4799999999998, + "text": " email us at every day tech at mpbonline.org" + }, + { + "start": 1491.04, + "end": 1496.3999999999999, + "text": " So what is popular on the top streaming services right now as of today september 11th" + }, + { + "start": 1496.7199999999998, + "end": 1498.7199999999998, + "text": " 2024 here's what we got on" + }, + { + "start": 1499.1999999999998, + "end": 1504.24, + "text": " Netflix rebel ridge tops the movie charts the perfect couple takes over as the number one show" + }, + { + "start": 1505.04, + "end": 1510.16, + "text": " HBO sees beetle juice become the number one movie as it sequel was just recently released in theaters" + }, + { + "start": 1510.88, + "end": 1512.4, + "text": " In chimped crazy is the number one show" + }, + { + "start": 1513.1200000000001, + "end": 1521.2, + "text": " So I'm not shocked that beetle juice is made to I'm so ready for beetle juice. It's out. It was my childhood cold class. Oh, yeah" + }, + { + "start": 1521.68, + "end": 1523.68, + "text": " Yeah, you uh" + }, + { + "start": 1523.68, + "end": 1525.68, + "text": " Did you rewatch the first one?" + }, + { + "start": 1525.92, + "end": 1532.08, + "text": " Um, yeah, I mean they've been playing it on a regular lately like I've been playing it you know on regular channels" + }, + { + "start": 1532.1599999999999, + "end": 1539.4399999999998, + "text": " I you know all the time now um, so I watched the first one about a million times. Okay. Yeah, I this was my childhood" + }, + { + "start": 1540.0, + "end": 1542.3999999999999, + "text": " Oh, dude, I loved I loved the first one" + }, + { + "start": 1543.28, + "end": 1548.0, + "text": " But yeah, this is my childhood and there is no better soundtrack than beetle juice" + }, + { + "start": 1548.24, + "end": 1554.3999999999999, + "text": " Absolutely, I'm pretty sure if I'm not mistaken that soundtrack is Danny Elfman who also does the soundtrack to the second one" + }, + { + "start": 1554.8799999999999, + "end": 1559.04, + "text": " And Danny Elfman is the man he does he does the nightmare before Christmas" + }, + { + "start": 1559.12, + "end": 1563.44, + "text": " He did multi-verse madness and stuff. Okay. This is now we're in we're talking about soundtracks" + }, + { + "start": 1563.52, + "end": 1569.68, + "text": " This is my expertise. This is what I know. That's what you do. Yeah, exactly. I love it. Yeah, I love it" + }, + { + "start": 1569.76, + "end": 1571.76, + "text": " So be her how you feel about beetle juice" + }, + { + "start": 1572.48, + "end": 1575.92, + "text": " The second movie was great my wife and I went to go see it the last week" + }, + { + "start": 1575.92, + "end": 1579.68, + "text": " Yeah, we're gonna see it last week and we were pretty impressed with it. We were pretty impressed with it" + }, + { + "start": 1579.68, + "end": 1584.6399999999999, + "text": " It was pretty well written the movie aged well in the pacing was good. I'm" + }, + { + "start": 1585.5200000000002, + "end": 1588.48, + "text": " I'm more of a writing and a communication kind of buff" + }, + { + "start": 1588.48, + "end": 1592.88, + "text": " So when I see does pays well in Jenna or Tega is the woman" + }, + { + "start": 1596.0800000000002, + "end": 1602.16, + "text": " Here's a little tidbit. 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I didn't know that right" + }, + { + "start": 1641.68, + "end": 1644.0, + "text": " It definitely feels like he's on the screen the whole time" + }, + { + "start": 1645.04, + "end": 1647.2, + "text": " It rolls and his presence in the movie was" + }, + { + "start": 1647.84, + "end": 1649.84, + "text": " Wow, and it's" + }, + { + "start": 1649.92, + "end": 1651.92, + "text": " It was amazing. It was amazing" + }, + { + "start": 1652.24, + "end": 1653.84, + "text": " Yeah, absolutely" + }, + { + "start": 1653.84, + "end": 1658.0, + "text": " All right moving on from Beetle juice. We have Disney Plus. We already know" + }, + { + "start": 1658.0, + "end": 1662.08, + "text": " Milan is the number one movie because the new movie the sequel's coming out soon and" + }, + { + "start": 1662.24, + "end": 1664.24, + "text": " Bluey is the number one show. 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Do you know bluey?" + }, + { + "start": 1694.4, + "end": 1698.8, + "text": " Is made for dogs to be able to watch it" + }, + { + "start": 1699.52, + "end": 1708.96, + "text": " Did anybody know this? Hmm. I didn't it's the colors that are that make up bluey and all the colors are colors that dogs" + }, + { + "start": 1709.6, + "end": 1711.1200000000001, + "text": " Can see" + }, + { + "start": 1711.1200000000001, + "end": 1716.72, + "text": " Interesting. It's like a color palette specifically for yes, and not only is it for children" + }, + { + "start": 1716.72, + "end": 1721.92, + "text": " But it's also for my baby storming as well. 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So we appreciate flix patrol for putting all that together and always keeping that on" + }, + { + "start": 1901.28, + "end": 1906.72, + "text": " The NSA just issued a press release giving advice on ways to keep your smartphone safe" + }, + { + "start": 1907.2, + "end": 1911.12, + "text": " Just a few practices and habits can decrease your chances of getting hacked" + }, + { + "start": 1911.4399999999998, + "end": 1914.56, + "text": " So we're gonna go through each of these tips and explain what they mean" + }, + { + "start": 1914.56, + "end": 1917.52, + "text": " And it's the beer you're the one that actually drew drew this to our attention" + }, + { + "start": 1918.6399999999999, + "end": 1922.32, + "text": " So I'm gonna ask you to explain every single one of these tips" + }, + { + "start": 1924.1599999999999, + "end": 1932.2399999999998, + "text": " So yes, so firstly the NSA recommends turning your device off and on weekly and we hear that all the time from you" + }, + { + "start": 1934.32, + "end": 1938.32, + "text": " Right, and so the point of uh of turning it off and on weekly" + }, + { + "start": 1938.3999999999999, + "end": 1945.04, + "text": " It's a lot like it just taking a break as many things that your uh that your computer goes through that your smartphone goes through" + }, + { + "start": 1945.36, + "end": 1951.28, + "text": " It goes through all the many different things even just for it to you telling your smartphone to go ahead and make a phone call" + }, + { + "start": 1951.76, + "end": 1956.8799999999999, + "text": " That it takes a lot inside of it for it to do for it to send email all the many different things" + }, + { + "start": 1957.12, + "end": 1961.12, + "text": " So imagine what you would do over the course of the day when your phone tells you man you've been on" + }, + { + "start": 1961.4399999999998, + "end": 1965.28, + "text": " Sebeer you've been on your phone for an hour and a half longer this week than you have last week" + }, + { + "start": 1965.36, + "end": 1967.6, + "text": " And I'm like man, I can do what I've been doing" + }, + { + "start": 1968.16, + "end": 1974.32, + "text": " So but when it when those things come up you're giving your device a break a much needed break" + }, + { + "start": 1974.32, + "end": 1981.36, + "text": " You're giving it a 15 minute break and or you're giving it a lunch break just for a moment me personally to turn it off and turn it back on" + }, + { + "start": 1981.84, + "end": 1983.52, + "text": " I do I have mine set up" + }, + { + "start": 1984.72, + "end": 1987.44, + "text": " Android phones have the ability to do what's called a routine" + }, + { + "start": 1987.76, + "end": 1991.12, + "text": " I have a routine setup to restart my phone every day. 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I've got it set at 3 a.m" + }, + { + "start": 2104.32, + "end": 2106.32, + "text": " Yeah, yeah, I feel special" + }, + { + "start": 2107.52, + "end": 2110.16, + "text": " What you have a what you say severe?" + }, + { + "start": 2111.68, + "end": 2117.28, + "text": " I was saying what time you said 3 a.m. Yeah 3 a.m. That's cool. That's cool. That's excellent. You have an android too" + }, + { + "start": 2117.28, + "end": 2124.48, + "text": " Don't you? Quit telling everybody. I'm so sorry. Yeah. I do have a beautiful android. It's the newest Samsung Galaxy" + }, + { + "start": 2125.04, + "end": 2127.36, + "text": " It's the Bentley version" + }, + { + "start": 2128.1600000000003, + "end": 2135.2000000000003, + "text": " That's the Bentley version tune into Jermaine tomorrow at 10 for auto correct to hear more about Bentley's and whatnot" + }, + { + "start": 2135.36, + "end": 2138.32, + "text": " Yes, we will be talking about it. Oh for real. We're talking about euro" + }, + { + "start": 2138.32, + "end": 2139.28, + "text": " I mean" + }, + { + "start": 2139.28, + "end": 2144.96, + "text": " This week we're talking about cruising Clinton. So yeah some throwback cars. Okay. Yeah, cool. I saw" + }, + { + "start": 2145.44, + "end": 2151.6, + "text": " This is unrelated to everyday tech. I'm very sorry, but I saw an antique car that was like a Toyota Camry" + }, + { + "start": 2151.6, + "end": 2155.1200000000003, + "text": " And it had the antique tag on it and I was like that's that's wild" + }, + { + "start": 2155.12, + "end": 2159.7599999999998, + "text": " It's time now. Yeah, and it looks so great. It did it look right now. I know. I know" + }, + { + "start": 2160.3199999999997, + "end": 2162.7999999999997, + "text": " All right, anyways back to everyday tech. 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I'm not connecting somebody that's somebody trying to connect you" + }, + { + "start": 2382.56, + "end": 2387.92, + "text": " And search a 12 foot radius around you. 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I highly recommend it and also a vast because of course" + }, + { + "start": 2727.52, + "end": 2729.52, + "text": " Of course, of course" + }, + { + "start": 2729.52, + "end": 2734.6400000000003, + "text": " The final one I'm gonna say is that we mentioned it all the time is the update software and apps" + }, + { + "start": 2735.44, + "end": 2742.24, + "text": " Because you know, it keeps you secure keeps you secure and if you'd like to check out any of these other tips go to" + }, + { + "start": 2742.56, + "end": 2749.04, + "text": " NSA.com and you can find their press release there all right, so beer. I appreciate you man. Thanks for helping myself when I call her's out" + }, + { + "start": 2749.8399999999997, + "end": 2754.72, + "text": " Yes indeed glad to be here glad to be here and glad to hear y'all voice and and good to be live" + }, + { + "start": 2755.04, + "end": 2757.04, + "text": " Yes, absolutely. 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{ + "start": 11.0, + "end": 16.0, + "text": " Each week we talk about the bumps and barriers that we encounter as we navigate through" + }, + { + "start": 16.0, + "end": 17.0, + "text": " life." + }, + { + "start": 17.0, + "end": 21.0, + "text": " Join the conversation Tuesday at 11 on MPB Think Radio." + }, + { + "start": 21.0, + "end": 33.0, + "text": " Hello, thanks for tuning in to the Everyday Tech Podcast brought to you by MPB Think Radio." + }, + { + "start": 33.0, + "end": 39.0, + "text": " Abraham Nanny here with my friends, Sabir Abdul-Hawk and IT expert and Shane Gism, a telecommunications" + }, + { + "start": 39.0, + "end": 40.0, + "text": " specialist." + }, + { + "start": 40.0, + "end": 45.0, + "text": " If you have questions, email everyday tech at mpbonline.org or contact us by leaving a talk" + }, + { + "start": 45.0, + "end": 48.0, + "text": " to us message from the MPB Public Media app." + }, + { + "start": 48.0, + "end": 52.0, + "text": " With the holidays coming 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So," + }, + { + "start": 647.7199999999999, + "end": 656.1999999999999, + "text": " you know, clearly, yeah. So every day tick is we're just a cybercrime group. Let's not say that." + }, + { + "start": 656.8399999999999, + "end": 661.56, + "text": " I think we're a little bit better than that. No, we're definitely better than that. We're actually" + }, + { + "start": 661.56, + "end": 669.2399999999999, + "text": " the best if you ask me. Yeah. For sure. But like you said, the scams, the specific scam is coming out" + }, + { + "start": 669.2399999999999, + "end": 675.0799999999999, + "text": " around this time for holiday shopping. So be aware of that. And speaking of holiday shopping," + }, + { + "start": 675.0799999999999, + "end": 683.2399999999999, + "text": " let's give the people a few tips on their holiday shopping this year. So first, I want to start" + }, + { + "start": 683.2399999999999, + "end": 687.4, + "text": " the first one with Shane being our telecom specialist. The way we're going to do this is we're" + }, + { + "start": 687.4, + "end": 691.0799999999999, + "text": " going to kind of jump back and forth between questions from Shane and severe kind of like we did" + }, + { + "start": 691.08, + "end": 695.96, + "text": " in previous shows. So Shane being our telecom specialist, let's talk about what to look for when" + }, + { + "start": 695.96, + "end": 700.84, + "text": " buying a phone or tablet and which to buy for this, we're going to break it down by who would use" + }, + { + "start": 700.84, + "end": 709.1600000000001, + "text": " it and what for. So if you are looking to buy a phone, a tablet, something more for a child, and all" + }, + { + "start": 709.1600000000001, + "end": 714.2800000000001, + "text": " all you want them to do is stream YouTube, play mobile games and you don't want them to be able to" + }, + { + "start": 714.28, + "end": 720.36, + "text": " text or email what device are they looking for? Well, I'm going to be honest with you, Abraham." + }, + { + "start": 720.36, + "end": 727.0, + "text": " Any smart device can't, well, not any, but well, no, any smart device can't email all of them that" + }, + { + "start": 727.0, + "end": 732.6, + "text": " I know of. Right. I might be wrong on that severe. You might, there might be some children" + }, + { + "start": 732.6, + "end": 738.12, + "text": " tab. There's a me go juniors that I know where I work. We sell those. Those are very kid friendly," + }, + { + "start": 738.12, + "end": 742.52, + "text": " but they're also so kid friendly that I don't think your kids are going to have fun with." + }, + { + "start": 742.6, + "end": 746.52, + "text": " Because like you can't, you can't download YouTube and all the things they want as a kid," + }, + { + "start": 746.52, + "end": 753.3199999999999, + "text": " obviously. Right. But they're cool products. 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There's access to way more on an actual cellular device. So I'd" + }, + { + "start": 783.56, + "end": 790.12, + "text": " definitely if it's for a child, definitely an tablet over anything else. Yeah. Yeah. Because" + }, + { + "start": 790.12, + "end": 794.76, + "text": " especially like if you're, if you have a phone and you're, you're just getting on a mobile game," + }, + { + "start": 794.76, + "end": 800.28, + "text": " like someone easily like online can just be like, Hey, text me and give you their number and" + }, + { + "start": 800.28, + "end": 804.6, + "text": " like an online chat or something like that. It's very, very easy to happen. So yeah." + }, + { + "start": 804.6, + "end": 809.8, + "text": " And that can happen very easily in Roblox. 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Put on kid mode" + }, + { + "start": 874.6800000000001, + "end": 879.8, + "text": " and you can't write to them. Yeah. You're sitting there texting looking down like near your" + }, + { + "start": 879.8, + "end": 885.88, + "text": " thigh or whatever. And then they come up, put your head right over the the fawn over. What does that" + }, + { + "start": 885.88, + "end": 889.24, + "text": " what does that mean? Yeah. And you're like, dude, I don't even know anymore. You're covering" + }, + { + "start": 889.24, + "end": 898.52, + "text": " it whole thing up. That's not happens. Yeah. I also, some people are against this. I do suggest" + }, + { + "start": 898.52, + "end": 904.04, + "text": " getting tablets that have like cellular data, cellular data where they can use it not on Wi-Fi." + }, + { + "start": 904.04, + "end": 908.5999999999999, + "text": " Like you could use it away from Wi-Fi. So like that's if you got long car trips stuff like that," + }, + { + "start": 908.6, + "end": 911.96, + "text": " your kid can bring their device. Still do the same things they were doing that they were doing" + }, + { + "start": 911.96, + "end": 917.96, + "text": " on the Wi-Fi in your vehicle or in an environment they don't like or they're not having fun. But you" + }, + { + "start": 917.96, + "end": 922.84, + "text": " don't want them to become the quote unquote tablet kid either or so. Right. With the something I hadn't" + }, + { + "start": 922.84, + "end": 928.76, + "text": " thought about until you said that, it also keeps your child from connecting to like if they've got" + }, + { + "start": 928.76, + "end": 934.6, + "text": " if they've got data, they might not connect to public Wi-Fi as much. Yes. Which was exposed then to" + }, + { + "start": 934.76, + "end": 941.88, + "text": " four hackers and whatnot. That's a good point. That's a really good point. Yeah. And then most" + }, + { + "start": 941.88, + "end": 945.96, + "text": " carriers are data plans for tablets aren't even that expensive. I'll be honest. They're really not." + }, + { + "start": 945.96, + "end": 951.08, + "text": " Yeah. They want to try to make things easier and push come to shove. Even if you don't get one" + }, + { + "start": 951.08, + "end": 956.12, + "text": " parents, you're going to be near your kids. Just go ahead and put your phone's hot spot on 11," + }, + { + "start": 956.12, + "end": 960.36, + "text": " jump on the hot spot. That is true. Another thing cool with tablets. You know," + }, + { + "start": 960.36, + "end": 965.4, + "text": " grandparents love talking to their grandkids. You can face time on iPads with their grandparents." + }, + { + "start": 965.4, + "end": 969.72, + "text": " If they have iPhones, you can Google call them as well. 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You know what the you're you're way over to 500." + }, + { + "start": 2065.64, + "end": 2073.24, + "text": " Yeah yeah yeah yeah it's crazy. Yeah and so you can you can do a SSD drive or if you know if" + }, + { + "start": 2073.24, + "end": 2077.72, + "text": " you've got a good IT a guy or gal that can be able to do what's called a hybrid where you'll have" + }, + { + "start": 2077.72, + "end": 2084.92, + "text": " like my computer at home is a hybrid. I've got a two terabyte standard old school hard drive" + }, + { + "start": 2084.92, + "end": 2090.7599999999998, + "text": " but my main runner is a one terabyte. 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Well especially after um you know if you're traveling a lot or you're streaming stuff" + }, + { + "start": 2233.2400000000002, + "end": 2238.76, + "text": " if you have streaming devices or if you're streaming services on your phone uh that your kid might" + }, + { + "start": 2238.76, + "end": 2244.04, + "text": " not have and you're streaming you know 4k maybe 8k streaming coming soon you know." + }, + { + "start": 2244.6800000000003, + "end": 2250.28, + "text": " Well you know I found iPhones I think Samsung they have OLED screens on them now it's unreal" + }, + { + "start": 2250.36, + "end": 2255.88, + "text": " it's unreal so like those that's like the highest quality screen like the refresh rate's unreal" + }, + { + "start": 2255.88, + "end": 2260.84, + "text": " for a phone man it's it's just wild but yeah as an adult just get the top of the line if that if" + }, + { + "start": 2260.84, + "end": 2264.92, + "text": " you really care about the product that you have and you really 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I'm sorry." + }, + { + "start": 707.8, + "end": 708.8, + "text": " She didn't tell me, Jack." + }, + { + "start": 708.8, + "end": 709.8, + "text": " I guessed." + }, + { + "start": 709.8, + "end": 711.8, + "text": " But they told you that the railway was sticking for clarts." + }, + { + "start": 711.8, + "end": 713.8, + "text": " And what were you being accorded to there before the war?" + }, + { + "start": 713.8, + "end": 714.8, + "text": " And I'd work here." + }, + { + "start": 714.8, + "end": 715.8, + "text": " I know, I know." + }, + { + "start": 715.8, + "end": 717.8, + "text": " But we couldn't get anywhere near the station to ask." + }, + { + "start": 717.8, + "end": 719.8, + "text": " We bumped into Arthur Hall and Ted Dolby." + }, + { + "start": 719.8, + "end": 721.8, + "text": " They said that the old would have caught fire." + }, + { + "start": 721.8, + "end": 723.8, + "text": " Now it's lying on its side at the bottom of the harbor." + }, + { + "start": 723.8, + "end": 724.8, + "text": " Then it could have been worse." + }, + { + "start": 724.8, + "end": 725.8, + "text": " Much worse." + }, + { + "start": 725.8, + "end": 728.8, + "text": " There was a train in the station and in nearly building into the water." + }, + { + "start": 728.8, + "end": 730.8, + "text": " They don't hear about that now, Sergeant Harris." + }, + { + "start": 730.8, + "end": 732.8, + "text": " I've got some fresh fish for supper." + }, + { + "start": 732.8, + "end": 734.8, + "text": " You'll come on your Jessie. There's plenty." + }, + { + "start": 734.8, + "end": 737.8, + "text": " I would, but Ivy's invited Jack to suffer." + }, + { + "start": 737.8, + "end": 740.8, + "text": " Well, if you've got plenty, maybe you'd give me some to give to her." + }, + { + "start": 740.8, + "end": 742.8, + "text": " All right. Actually, you can have it all." + }, + { + "start": 742.8, + "end": 743.8, + "text": " Are you sure?" + }, + { + "start": 743.8, + "end": 744.8, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 744.8, + "end": 746.8, + "text": " So, is it safe to go down to the harbour now?" + }, + { + "start": 746.8, + "end": 749.8, + "text": " Yes. 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I'm Matt Baker and" + }, + { + "start": 9.6, + "end": 14.56, + "text": " join me to celebrate the return of Formula One to our screens this week in Austin, Texas." + }, + { + "start": 14.56, + "end": 19.84, + "text": " Our man on the ground in the USA, the 2009 Formula One World Champion, Jensen Button" + }, + { + "start": 19.84, + "end": 28.400000000000002, + "text": " joins me, Jensen. How's it going? How are you? Good morning. I am great. I'm really good." + }, + { + "start": 29.119999999999997, + "end": 34.08, + "text": " Excited about going racing again. I haven't been to an F1 race for a few races now. So" + }, + { + "start": 35.12, + "end": 41.36, + "text": " I cannot wait. Austin is always a great one. It's a great city and a circuit that I think most drivers" + }, + { + "start": 42.32, + "end": 47.04, + "text": " love. Yeah, they certainly do. 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It shows how good a job Max has done as well in the car." + }, + { + "start": 1159.28, + "end": 1166.8799999999999, + "text": " But yeah, you know, I can't see Red Bull beating in McLaren right now. I really can't in terms of" + }, + { + "start": 1167.4399999999998, + "end": 1174.0, + "text": " for any race until the end of the season, outscoring them. But I can see Ferrari challenging" + }, + { + "start": 1174.08, + "end": 1177.68, + "text": " Red Bull. I don't think it'd be every race, so they'll be scoring more points, but there's every" + }, + { + "start": 1177.68, + "end": 1183.28, + "text": " possibility that Ferrari will be, be Red Bull. There's much more of a chance of Ferrari beating Red Bull" + }, + { + "start": 1183.28, + "end": 1189.68, + "text": " than Red Bull beating McLaren. 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I mean, I mentioned that there were tons of other storylines as well" + }, + { + "start": 1379.9199999999998, + "end": 1385.6, + "text": " in the intro and there really are. One place I want to get your thoughts on Jensen is what's" + }, + { + "start": 1385.6, + "end": 1393.36, + "text": " happened at RB Ricardo, Daniel Ricardo out, Liam Lawson in. Firstly, let's reflect on" + }, + { + "start": 1393.36, + "end": 1399.52, + "text": " RB's decision to let go of Daniel. I just wonder if you thought it was the correct decision," + }, + { + "start": 1399.52, + "end": 1404.9599999999998, + "text": " if you thought that perhaps the form and what not dictated that actually, yeah, it was fair enough" + }, + { + "start": 1404.9599999999998, + "end": 1409.4399999999998, + "text": " and also get your thoughts on how he was let go because it was quite odd, wasn't it in Singapore," + }, + { + "start": 1409.4399999999998, + "end": 1414.56, + "text": " this wasn't he going to race in Formula One after that? Just, what are your reflections on that?" + }, + { + "start": 1416.56, + "end": 1423.6, + "text": " It's a funny one because there's only one team really that brings in drivers mid-sees and takes" + }, + { + "start": 1423.6, + "end": 1430.0, + "text": " drivers out the seat mid-sees and all three races in, six races in and that team is redball and" + }, + { + "start": 1431.36, + "end": 1438.48, + "text": " aftary. 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And then we saw glimpses of it," + }, + { + "start": 1497.4399999999998, + "end": 1503.52, + "text": " it, it ran it as well, you know, before it was helping, we saw it, Rena took his, took some time" + }, + { + "start": 1503.52, + "end": 1508.56, + "text": " to find his feet, but then he was extremely quick against the Hulk, I mean, who's a, we all" + }, + { + "start": 1508.56, + "end": 1514.48, + "text": " write very highly, it just didn't materialize at McLaren and the aftary, which is such a shame," + }, + { + "start": 1514.72, + "end": 1520.0, + "text": " why is that? I don't know, you know, it's not his age, he's not old, look at Fernando Alonso," + }, + { + "start": 1520.0, + "end": 1527.6, + "text": " what he can do. So the only person that knows is probably Daniel and I feel for him because" + }, + { + "start": 1528.32, + "end": 1532.24, + "text": " you know, to be on such a high for a lot of your career and then it fall away for the last few" + }, + { + "start": 1532.24, + "end": 1538.08, + "text": " years, it's tough, but I think he's from, from what I've heard, he's made peace with it and he's" + }, + { + "start": 1538.08, + "end": 1542.64, + "text": " got his, he's got his whole life in front of him and you know, I know there's so much to do out there" + }, + { + "start": 1542.64, + "end": 1546.72, + "text": " after Formula One and fun things for him to do that he wasn't able to do it while he was" + }, + { + "start": 1546.72, + "end": 1552.88, + "text": " enough one, but it always hurts a bit when it's not your decision to leave and he'll feel that," + }, + { + "start": 1552.88, + "end": 1556.24, + "text": " he'll feel that pain for a little while, but then he'll get over it and it'll be all good." + }, + { + "start": 1556.8000000000002, + "end": 1562.0800000000002, + "text": " He's such a personality, he's got such a career in front of him, whether it's in racing or TV," + }, + { + "start": 1562.0800000000002, + "end": 1567.0400000000002, + "text": " stand up, whatever it is, Daniel will find the route, the works for him." + }, + { + "start": 1568.0, + "end": 1571.76, + "text": " Stand up, that's a new one, no one suggested he go to stand up just yet." + }, + { + "start": 1573.12, + "end": 1574.1599999999999, + "text": " You think it'd be good?" + }, + { + "start": 1574.1599999999999, + "end": 1579.52, + "text": " I mean, he's just naturally silly and funny, so yeah, I think it would work well." + }, + { + "start": 1580.6399999999999, + "end": 1584.3999999999999, + "text": " Let's see, I'm sure, I'm sure a venue would be happy to give him a go." + }, + { + "start": 1584.3999999999999, + "end": 1591.68, + "text": " All right, so that's Daniel's journey out of our B. Let's look at the story of Liam Lawson" + }, + { + "start": 1591.76, + "end": 1597.8400000000001, + "text": " coming in 22 years old. Not only is he never raced in Austin before, it's a sprint weekend." + }, + { + "start": 1599.04, + "end": 1603.2, + "text": " How difficult is that job going to be for him to jump in the car?" + }, + { + "start": 1603.2, + "end": 1607.44, + "text": " I mean, essentially, it's six races right to prove that you deserve a seat, not just at RB," + }, + { + "start": 1608.0800000000002, + "end": 1611.28, + "text": " but will he have his eyes on the seat at Red Bull as well?" + }, + { + "start": 1611.28, + "end": 1615.3600000000001, + "text": " Yeah, it's not his first time. He's had a couple of races already when," + }, + { + "start": 1615.3600000000001, + "end": 1620.4, + "text": " when, obviously, Daniel hurt his hand. 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And obviously," + }, + { + "start": 1682.64, + "end": 1687.44, + "text": " this, this sport isn't just about natural ability. It's a, there's a lot more to it." + }, + { + "start": 1688.16, + "end": 1693.28, + "text": " And the pressures that come with being in a fun driver, not just a reserve or a jump in driver," + }, + { + "start": 1693.28, + "end": 1698.0, + "text": " it's very different. And we see it a lot with the pressures that come with the media, the team," + }, + { + "start": 1698.0, + "end": 1703.76, + "text": " the manufacturers and the pressure you put on yourself, the mental side of it, it's tough." + }, + { + "start": 1703.76, + "end": 1709.12, + "text": " And I hope that he can handle that and we get to see him in before it's best." + }, + { + "start": 1709.12, + "end": 1713.76, + "text": " It's really exciting and just, yeah, cool to see another driver on the grid, isn't it? Another" + }, + { + "start": 1713.76, + "end": 1720.32, + "text": " rookie. All right, someone guy called Lito, we put out a post asking questions, people to get in" + }, + { + "start": 1720.32, + "end": 1725.2, + "text": " touch with their questions for you, Jensen. What do you think about Franco Colapinto?" + }, + { + "start": 1725.2, + "end": 1729.28, + "text": " I wonder if you know much about him from your obviously your relationship with Williams." + }, + { + "start": 1730.1599999999999, + "end": 1735.2, + "text": " He's burst onto the scene, scored four points in his first three races in that car. I mean," + }, + { + "start": 1735.2, + "end": 1739.84, + "text": " that's four more points than Logan, Sergeant scored all season. He's really announced himself," + }, + { + "start": 1739.84, + "end": 1746.32, + "text": " hasn't he? Is it as a competitor and Formula One? Very, very impressed. I think everyone is," + }, + { + "start": 1746.32, + "end": 1751.9199999999998, + "text": " you know, you give someone an opportunity and you think they're going to take a few races to" + }, + { + "start": 1751.9199999999998, + "end": 1760.0, + "text": " get to grips with the car, Formula One, the tracks. But no, he's done an extremely good job" + }, + { + "start": 1760.0, + "end": 1766.1599999999999, + "text": " to jump in and to be pushing Alex as hard as he has. We've not seen that before, it Williams." + }, + { + "start": 1766.8, + "end": 1774.3999999999999, + "text": " So really, really impressed and lovely to see his confidence, how he's working with the team," + }, + { + "start": 1774.4, + "end": 1780.3200000000002, + "text": " how he's working with Alex. It's a big deal for him. 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And then Sunday," + }, + { + "start": 2087.28, + "end": 2094.32, + "text": " we're on air from 6 30 in the evening before lights out at 8 p.m. Exciting stuff, Jensen off to" + }, + { + "start": 2094.4, + "end": 2100.2400000000002, + "text": " Austin. When do you get there? What are you most excited about going to Austin this weekend?" + }, + { + "start": 2100.2400000000002, + "end": 2105.76, + "text": " I raced in Austin earlier this year in the World Enjurios Championship and it's such a cool city." + }, + { + "start": 2106.4, + "end": 2114.0, + "text": " I mean, if you like barbecue, it's the place to be. If you like live music, it's the place to be." + }, + { + "start": 2114.6400000000003, + "end": 2121.2000000000003, + "text": " So I really enjoy the atmosphere of Austin. Yeah, it's not in the city, but I kind of think" + }, + { + "start": 2121.2, + "end": 2126.24, + "text": " that's cool as well. It's an old school racetrack. And it's the fan base. There is massive." + }, + { + "start": 2126.24, + "end": 2133.12, + "text": " So it's a really good atmosphere. It's been resurfaced the track. So you'll see these cars running" + }, + { + "start": 2133.12, + "end": 2139.04, + "text": " as low as they can. They're going to be super fast through turn one to turn eight. That for me is" + }, + { + "start": 2139.04, + "end": 2143.4399999999996, + "text": " one of the best sections in the world. So if you get a chance to watch an F1 car at its best," + }, + { + "start": 2144.24, + "end": 2148.48, + "text": " you got to go to Austin. You got to watch from two and what to one to turn eight. And I'm going to" + }, + { + "start": 2148.48, + "end": 2154.32, + "text": " be there. So it's going to be even better guys. You're going to be M&M on Saturday night. I hear" + }, + { + "start": 2154.32, + "end": 2162.72, + "text": " M&M is playing. Unfortunately, I've got some work and some other plans. But I definitely would love" + }, + { + "start": 2162.72, + "end": 2166.64, + "text": " to go. Yeah, that would be very cool. Well, I'm sure it's going to be an amazing weekend." + }, + { + "start": 2166.64, + "end": 2170.32, + "text": " Jensen, thank you so much for joining us. We look forward to watching across the weekend on" + }, + { + "start": 2170.32, + "end": 2175.04, + "text": " Sky Sports F1. We're going to be back next Tuesday as always. Hope you can join us then. 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+ "text": " climate related messaging from these companies as we all sort of get on the same page that" + }, + { + "start": 32.96, + "end": 37.08, + "text": " they should be more responsible about their impact on the climate." + }, + { + "start": 37.08, + "end": 41.0, + "text": " You might remember the sketch with Tim Cook and Mother Nature and the last Apple event" + }, + { + "start": 41.0, + "end": 46.84, + "text": " or any number of various quotes about percent of recycled materials in this and sustainability" + }, + { + "start": 46.84, + "end": 51.120000000000005, + "text": " reusability that in any sort of key notes we've been noticing lately." + }, + { + "start": 51.120000000000005, + "end": 55.36, + "text": " And I want to be able to analyze all that but I don't know nearly enough about it to make" + }, + { + "start": 55.36, + "end": 57.72, + "text": " really good analysis of that." + }, + { + "start": 57.72, + "end": 60.6, + "text": " So this episode we have someone who can." + 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Giving Tuesday, the world's biggest day for generosity." + }, + { + "start": 4.6000000000000005, + "end": 6.86, + "text": " This year it's on Tuesday, December 3." + }, + { + "start": 6.86, + "end": 11.66, + "text": " While you're out there being generous, share it on social media using hashtag Giving Tuesday." + }, + { + "start": 11.66, + "end": 14.700000000000001, + "text": " Research shows this will inspire others to be generous too." + }, + { + "start": 14.700000000000001, + "end": 18.94, + "text": " This message comes from St. Jude Children's Research Hospital." + }, + { + "start": 18.94, + "end": 27.1, + "text": " Active and retired federal employees and military staff can support St. Jude during the 2024 combined federal campaign." + }, + { + "start": 27.1, + "end": 34.1, + "text": " Visit stjuud.org slash CFC and donate now using the code 10560." + }, + { + "start": 46.7, + "end": 53.7, + "text": " Now let me tell you about what happened when George Washington was running for 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Find yourself outside with Sun and Ski Sports." + }, + { + "start": 2559.1, + "end": 2563.1, + "text": " Part Three, Australia." + }, + { + "start": 2563.1, + "end": 2575.1, + "text": " When the war ended, the South was on its knees, politically and economically devastated. But the North was experiencing another boom." + }, + { + "start": 2575.1, + "end": 2590.1, + "text": " The Gilded Age in the late 19th century was an era of massive economic growth. And just like during the Industrial Revolution, lying beneath that thin veil of prosperity was a massive wealth gap." + }, + { + "start": 2590.1, + "end": 2596.1, + "text": " And just like before the war, those with the least amount of power were the biggest prey." + }, + { + "start": 2596.1, + "end": 2606.1, + "text": " We can talk about this kind of fictitious voter fraud today. 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I'm Jennifer Stockburger. I'm Jake Fisher and I'm Alex Nice." + }, + { + "start": 16.080000000000002, + "end": 21.44, + "text": " So we are mixing it up in this episode because while we're typically talking about some brand" + }, + { + "start": 21.44, + "end": 31.76, + "text": " new new car, this whole episode is now dedicated to used cars and for those who don't know in this country" + }, + { + "start": 31.76, + "end": 39.44, + "text": " there are way more used cars sold than new cars. In 2023 36 million used light vehicles sold" + }, + { + "start": 39.44, + "end": 46.16, + "text": " compared to 15 and a half new and new light trucks and cars more than double. 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They're more confident that their vehicles" + }, + { + "start": 1269.92, + "end": 1275.44, + "text": " last longer. So, they certify them. And to your point, Jake, when you said, if you're buying it from," + }, + { + "start": 1275.44, + "end": 1282.48, + "text": " and a private sale or something like that, we do have a lot of advice that's still here about" + }, + { + "start": 1282.48, + "end": 1289.3600000000001, + "text": " how to do those inspections. Get somebody for sure. Get a car fax report. All of those elements." + }, + { + "start": 1289.3600000000001, + "end": 1297.2, + "text": " Perennial used car evergreen content. So, yeah. So, there's a ton of stuff there. And the other thing" + }, + { + "start": 1297.2, + "end": 1303.2, + "text": " was, there's so many new ways you mentioned it right at the opening to buy a used car, be it" + }, + { + "start": 1303.2, + "end": 1310.24, + "text": " carvana or car max to buy and sell a used car for that matter. 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Which is really kind of harder to find online." + }, + { + "start": 1372.08, + "end": 1378.0, + "text": " So moving on, of course, we have all of your audience questions. We have a couple this," + }, + { + "start": 1378.0, + "end": 1385.36, + "text": " this episode, CR.org slash talking cars is the talking cars hub. It has all of the old episodes" + }, + { + "start": 1385.36, + "end": 1391.6799999999998, + "text": " and instructions for sending your questions. Email, video, text, however you would like them." + }, + { + "start": 1392.56, + "end": 1398.7199999999998, + "text": " First question comes from Irv from Normal, Illinois. I do remember there's a normal. Recently," + }, + { + "start": 1398.7199999999998, + "end": 1403.84, + "text": " hometown manufacturer Rivian announced that it would offer software updates to its older models" + }, + { + "start": 1403.84, + "end": 1408.9599999999998, + "text": " that would improve ride quality, along with some of the other advancements offered in its repressed" + }, + { + "start": 1408.96, + "end": 1415.76, + "text": " models. This got me thinking about how CR deals with software updates as these become more regular" + }, + { + "start": 1415.76, + "end": 1421.68, + "text": " and begin to involve much more than navigation and infotainment upgrades. What will this mean for" + }, + { + "start": 1421.68, + "end": 1428.48, + "text": " CR's testing? Does CR have a metric to determine when a software update is substantial enough to" + }, + { + "start": 1428.48, + "end": 1435.6000000000001, + "text": " merit comment or even reassessment? When surveying vehicle reliability, our software upgrades identified" + }, + { + "start": 1435.6, + "end": 1442.6399999999999, + "text": " and how is CR reacting to this rapidly changing technology? It's a great question," + }, + { + "start": 1443.4399999999998, + "end": 1449.36, + "text": " and we are facing that, Jake. Yeah, well, I mean, it kind of goes to the terms of how we are testing" + }, + { + "start": 1449.36, + "end": 1456.7199999999998, + "text": " the vehicle. So I mean, we obviously do not fully test every vehicle every year. What we do is we" + }, + { + "start": 1456.7199999999998, + "end": 1461.52, + "text": " test the duration comes out and then we revisit those vehicles. So we'll often" + }, + { + "start": 1461.6, + "end": 1468.48, + "text": " drive the next year, make sure that nothing is really substantially changed, but there are cases where" + }, + { + "start": 1468.48, + "end": 1473.28, + "text": " we do see these changes even on our cars. 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Because a powertrain changed" + }, + { + "start": 1707.36, + "end": 1713.28, + "text": " or enough has changed where it warrants repurchasing the vehicle and that happens too. So it's" + }, + { + "start": 1713.28, + "end": 1717.12, + "text": " it's case by case, honestly. And actually, if you look at our used car information, so" + }, + { + "start": 1717.12, + "end": 1722.16, + "text": " so like if you're looking at like a used, you know, a used Ford, you know, if you look and like," + }, + { + "start": 1722.8, + "end": 1726.24, + "text": " you know, like we talk about, there's different generations of each one of these vehicles. But" + }, + { + "start": 1726.24, + "end": 1730.8799999999999, + "text": " sometimes you'll find, so you could go, you know, look at a Ford Focus or a Ford Edge and you could" + }, + { + "start": 1730.8799999999999, + "end": 1735.76, + "text": " pick each one of those years. And even though the cars look identical and they are in the same" + }, + { + "start": 1735.76, + "end": 1740.08, + "text": " generation, there was a time, I mean, Ford was a kind of an innovator of these multi-things," + }, + { + "start": 1740.56, + "end": 1745.36, + "text": " what was it? My Ford Touch, it was just abysmal, it was a real nice. And then they upgraded it to" + }, + { + "start": 1745.36, + "end": 1750.8, + "text": " like SYNC-3, which was far better. But in many of these vehicles, they looked identical year to year" + }, + { + "start": 1750.8, + "end": 1755.52, + "text": " except they changed that system. So if you look at our old system, you know, our old reports," + }, + { + "start": 1755.52, + "end": 1761.84, + "text": " you could see, okay, this year has got the, you know, the SYNC-3. That's the better one and it's got" + }, + { + "start": 1761.84, + "end": 1767.6799999999998, + "text": " higher score, it's got more information about it, it's all there. The way I said it is, you kind of" + }, + { + "start": 1767.68, + "end": 1773.1200000000001, + "text": " build a rating. You keep most of the rating, but you put in this new module that might be in" + }, + { + "start": 1773.1200000000001, + "end": 1778.0, + "text": " containment, that might be chassis tuning. Correct. If it applies across the board. And we are not" + }, + { + "start": 1778.0, + "end": 1782.3200000000002, + "text": " above, we've found a lot of time in dealer parking lots to confirm some of this. Right." + }, + { + "start": 1782.3200000000002, + "end": 1787.44, + "text": " I don't tell you. No, I think it's important. Yeah. You know, we don't just do this looking at" + }, + { + "start": 1787.44, + "end": 1792.4, + "text": " pictures or just like, you know, looking online only, we will make sure we get hands on one way or" + }, + { + "start": 1792.48, + "end": 1796.5600000000002, + "text": " the other way around the skies now. We are. Now we do. We have big glasses." + }, + { + "start": 1796.5600000000002, + "end": 1801.52, + "text": " Exactly. Exactly. Maybe anyway. So thank you always for your questions." + }, + { + "start": 1801.52, + "end": 1808.4, + "text": " CR.org slash talking cars. Totally check out the used car hub and all that it brings with it." + }, + { + "start": 1808.4, + "end": 1813.92, + "text": " Whether you shop at used or not, I think you'll find it valuable. 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I'm that" + }, + { + "start": 8.42, + "end": 13.02, + "text": " Bacon to help me look ahead to the final three races of this season, starting" + }, + { + "start": 13.02, + "end": 17.26, + "text": " with a trip down the strip in Las Vegas. Please welcome our very own David" + }, + { + "start": 17.26, + "end": 21.12, + "text": " Croft. Croftie, how are you? Are your sequins packed? You're about to get on the" + }, + { + "start": 21.12, + "end": 25.52, + "text": " plane, aren't you tomorrow? Yes, I am. Trip down the strip. I like that, man." + }, + { + "start": 25.52, + "end": 30.64, + "text": " I might use that. Please do. Free and well on Saturday night, Sunday morning," + }, + { + "start": 30.64, + "end": 34.44, + "text": " depending on where you're watching around the world, or even Sunday tea time, if" + }, + { + "start": 34.44, + "end": 37.480000000000004, + "text": " you're watching in Australia. And yeah, I'm really well. 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And just a quick, quick bit of info on the podcast. It's a bit different" + }, + { + "start": 96.66, + "end": 100.08, + "text": " this week. We've got a lot of people traveling early in the week. So I managed to pin down" + }, + { + "start": 100.08, + "end": 103.96000000000001, + "text": " Crofty, which is great. And then later on in the podcast, I'm going to be joined by Tom" + }, + { + "start": 103.96000000000001, + "end": 107.46000000000001, + "text": " Bellingham. We're going to be talking all things max for staff and how he's pretty much" + }, + { + "start": 107.46, + "end": 111.89999999999999, + "text": " sewn up the world championship and will probably do in Vegas, if not Vegas and Qatar." + }, + { + "start": 111.89999999999999, + "end": 115.22, + "text": " We'll also talk about the constructor's championship and where that can be won or lost over" + }, + { + "start": 115.22, + "end": 120.53999999999999, + "text": " the next few races. But that's later, Crofty. I like that. You've gone back to the sequins" + }, + { + "start": 120.53999999999999, + "end": 125.33999999999999, + "text": " again. Max has got the title pretty much sewn up. Like what you've done there. That's" + }, + { + "start": 125.33999999999999, + "end": 130.22, + "text": " very good. Yeah. That was an accident. Well, it shouldn't be an act of the mat. You" + }, + { + "start": 130.22, + "end": 134.66, + "text": " know, you should tell the world that you actually prepare in a vogue for this and spend all" + }, + { + "start": 134.66, + "end": 139.66, + "text": " weekend writing your best lines. Can we just talk about Max for a minute? Yeah. If he" + }, + { + "start": 139.66, + "end": 145.57999999999998, + "text": " wins in Vegas again, as he did last year and goes on then to take the title brilliant," + }, + { + "start": 145.57999999999998, + "end": 151.3, + "text": " what our max for staff and what a fantastic performance and to be and to be world champion" + }, + { + "start": 151.3, + "end": 157.14, + "text": " in a year where he's clearly not in the fastest car. You know, I think the performance of" + }, + { + "start": 157.14, + "end": 160.98, + "text": " that rebel is somewhere between Max and Checo Perez, but more of the max end than the" + }, + { + "start": 160.98, + "end": 165.89999999999998, + "text": " Checo Perez end. But to do that when it's not in the fastest car, it's a brilliant, brilliant" + }, + { + "start": 165.89999999999998, + "end": 172.98, + "text": " season. He is a phenomenal driver. And we talk a lot about Max and we talk a lot about," + }, + { + "start": 172.98, + "end": 177.45999999999998, + "text": " you know, off the track and forcing other people off the track. But let's actually spend" + }, + { + "start": 177.45999999999998, + "end": 184.66, + "text": " a minute or so saying Max for staff and genius driver, fantastic world champion deserves" + }, + { + "start": 184.66, + "end": 190.26, + "text": " to be a four time world champion. If he's got the car next year that can compete will surely" + }, + { + "start": 190.26, + "end": 196.5, + "text": " be a five time world champion in the making as well. One of the greatest drivers ever to race" + }, + { + "start": 196.5, + "end": 202.5, + "text": " in Formula One and we should not let anything else do track from that. And it's rare that we've" + }, + { + "start": 202.5, + "end": 207.85999999999999, + "text": " actually had the chance to sit down and discuss Max the champion. But let's do it on a championship" + }, + { + "start": 208.5, + "end": 212.82, + "text": " deciding weekend because I think he will win it in Vegas. I think it will be done and dusted" + }, + { + "start": 212.82, + "end": 217.38, + "text": " there. And what better place to hit the jackpot than in Cincinnati? I was going to say if he's" + }, + { + "start": 217.38, + "end": 221.14, + "text": " going to win it anywhere, Vegas. I mean, obviously I know he won the race last year, but to actually" + }, + { + "start": 221.14, + "end": 226.1, + "text": " win the championship in terms of passes you can probably have as a world champion. Our" + }, + { + "start": 226.1, + "end": 230.18, + "text": " recon Vegas is going to be good, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely. And it gives me another chance to" + }, + { + "start": 230.18, + "end": 236.26, + "text": " shout what the staff and Zin Vegas stays in Vegas. And maybe what does the staff in Vegas will stay" + }, + { + "start": 236.26, + "end": 240.26, + "text": " in Vegas? Who knows where he's going to go and party. But we've all got to get to Qatar in a bit" + }, + { + "start": 240.26, + "end": 245.54, + "text": " of a hurry quite frankly. But I'm sure I'm sure your party and I'm sure you're taking exactly what" + }, + { + "start": 245.54, + "end": 250.57999999999998, + "text": " he's achieved. And he's done and I will do because he will become world champion this season exactly" + }, + { + "start": 250.57999999999998, + "end": 256.09999999999997, + "text": " what Sebastian Fettled in and winning those four titles. 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Four max were staff and" + }, + { + "start": 286.74, + "end": 291.7, + "text": " and when he finishes when he finally ends his time in Formula One, there will be many more great" + }, + { + "start": 291.7, + "end": 296.34000000000003, + "text": " stats to go. I'm sure I feel like Krothte you've been doing your notes today, right? Is this" + }, + { + "start": 296.34000000000003, + "end": 301.78, + "text": " the stats are like right at the forefront of your brain. And you can just reel them, reel them off" + }, + { + "start": 301.85999999999996, + "end": 305.94, + "text": " like that. It's very impressive. That's the intention. When we get to set," + }, + { + "start": 305.94, + "end": 310.97999999999996, + "text": " I hope we get to know there. Yeah, fingers crossed, I'm sure they will be. Let's take a moment," + }, + { + "start": 310.97999999999996, + "end": 316.02, + "text": " shall we to talk about Vegas. And you know, it's been a whole year hasn't it since we were" + }, + { + "start": 316.02, + "end": 322.02, + "text": " last in Vegas kind of it's flown by a lot has happened in Formula One in that time. But in terms of" + }, + { + "start": 322.02, + "end": 326.17999999999995, + "text": " let's cast our mind back shall we to fp one. Do you remember? Well, you remember it very well." + }, + { + "start": 326.18, + "end": 330.1, + "text": " It was probably the longest working day of your career. Yeah, yeah," + }, + { + "start": 330.1, + "end": 333.86, + "text": " did some watching the night keeping you to the company at four o'clock in the morning," + }, + { + "start": 333.86, + "end": 337.78000000000003, + "text": " which you know, we've had a couple of conversations about that, but we didn't think we'd be in the" + }, + { + "start": 337.78000000000003, + "end": 342.66, + "text": " commentary box doing it at the time. It was very surreal, wasn't it? 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And you know, most of the decent restaurants, you know, Gordon Ramsay is not" + }, + { + "start": 688.74, + "end": 694.42, + "text": " going to put on a 24 hour buffet service for us, despite my pleavings with him on that one." + }, + { + "start": 694.42, + "end": 699.78, + "text": " Most of the decent restaurants are all shut, but that said we are in Vegas. We are staying at a" + }, + { + "start": 699.78, + "end": 704.66, + "text": " hotel that overlooks the strip. It is, you know, Disneyland for adults quite frankly. Absolutely" + }, + { + "start": 704.66, + "end": 711.14, + "text": " love the place and and Formula one. I think Formula one belongs in Vegas. I really do. I think it's" + }, + { + "start": 711.14, + "end": 716.98, + "text": " it's a really good synergy. If I can use that word and not crack up and inspire myself on that." + }, + { + "start": 716.98, + "end": 721.86, + "text": " Hate the words, cynically. 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Do want to draw your attention to a couple of other stories that have come" + }, + { + "start": 871.1400000000001, + "end": 876.1800000000001, + "text": " come across or or or been in the news since we were racing in S\u00e3o Paulo. And we learned," + }, + { + "start": 876.1800000000001, + "end": 879.86, + "text": " didn't we, that all 20 drivers have signed a letter to Mohammed Ben Saleem," + }, + { + "start": 879.86, + "end": 884.82, + "text": " calling out his response to the swearing Saga. You remember that for Stappen's War in a press conference?" + }, + { + "start": 884.82, + "end": 889.7, + "text": " A few months back, he was ungiven essentially community service and the drivers have rallied around" + }, + { + "start": 890.1800000000001, + "end": 895.86, + "text": " and asked Ben Saleem to consider his tone and language when talking about member drivers in a public" + }, + { + "start": 895.86, + "end": 900.34, + "text": " forum or otherwise. 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First and foremost, he has a step down, he has been sacked, he's admitted" + }, + { + "start": 932.9000000000001, + "end": 939.7800000000001, + "text": " that himself and he's gone on and said that to various journalists and you're not going to," + }, + { + "start": 940.82, + "end": 945.86, + "text": " the FIA, you're not going to let the race direct to go if he wants to go with three races to go if" + }, + { + "start": 945.86, + "end": 953.94, + "text": " there's no reason behind that from the FIA standpoint, because to bring in a new race director," + }, + { + "start": 953.94, + "end": 959.54, + "text": " and Rui Marquez has done very well in F2 and F3, but it's never been the race director in F1," + }, + { + "start": 959.54, + "end": 966.82, + "text": " to do that before a street race, before Vegas, under the lights, with all the possibilities" + }, + { + "start": 966.82, + "end": 973.0600000000001, + "text": " that something could go wrong, with all, race that calls for experience, a race that calls for" + }, + { + "start": 973.2199999999999, + "end": 979.4599999999999, + "text": " calm head and a race that calls for someone who's not doing the job for the first time, I find it" + }, + { + "start": 979.4599999999999, + "end": 984.42, + "text": " crazy. 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It's kind of like the night of the long knives at the" + }, + { + "start": 1054.42, + "end": 1060.5800000000002, + "text": " Pless de la Concorde, an engineer, people seem to be leaving. I don't understand why. The drivers" + }, + { + "start": 1060.5800000000002, + "end": 1066.18, + "text": " mean while writing a letter to the FIA president, good, the drivers are united. They're agreeing" + }, + { + "start": 1067.0600000000002, + "end": 1070.8200000000002, + "text": " on some things. I'm sure they've got other things they could be agreeing on, but they could be" + }, + { + "start": 1070.8200000000002, + "end": 1074.98, + "text": " talking to the FIA about it as it's swearing in a press conference, but you've got to start" + }, + { + "start": 1074.98, + "end": 1081.22, + "text": " somewhere. And I'm not saying I think the FIA are right. You know, there's a balance here," + }, + { + "start": 1081.22, + "end": 1084.9, + "text": " isn't there? You know, in the heat of the moment, you're in a race and you swear," + }, + { + "start": 1084.9, + "end": 1090.42, + "text": " yeah, it gets bleaked out. That's the heat of the moment to do it deliberately and a press conference," + }, + { + "start": 1090.42, + "end": 1095.3, + "text": " you kind of know what you're doing there with that one. If you're not apologizing straight away," + }, + { + "start": 1095.3, + "end": 1102.1000000000001, + "text": " you're kind of doing it and taking whatever's coming your way as a punishment. But I just don't" + }, + { + "start": 1102.1000000000001, + "end": 1107.94, + "text": " understand the Nils Vittic scenario. If they weren't happy, if they were going to replace them at" + }, + { + "start": 1107.94, + "end": 1111.54, + "text": " the end of the season, replace them at the end of the season, bring someone into shadow him" + }, + { + "start": 1111.54, + "end": 1118.98, + "text": " for the next few races. If something has gone on, that demands he gets replaced straight away," + }, + { + "start": 1118.98, + "end": 1124.5800000000002, + "text": " then that's okay. That's fine. These things happen. People get sacked and we don't always find out" + }, + { + "start": 1124.5800000000002, + "end": 1130.66, + "text": " why, but it does seem a very strange time for this to happen. Commercially as well. The timing" + }, + { + "start": 1130.66, + "end": 1135.46, + "text": " is just so interesting, isn't it? You know, Las Vegas, Formula One, the commercial rights holders" + }, + { + "start": 1135.54, + "end": 1141.8600000000001, + "text": " of F1, the biggest, probably, singing and dancing weekend of the whole entire calendar." + }, + { + "start": 1141.8600000000001, + "end": 1147.38, + "text": " And the FIA and F1's relationship has been a bit fratcious to say the least, hasn't it? So it just," + }, + { + "start": 1147.38, + "end": 1151.54, + "text": " it feels like, what a weekend for this all to be kind of coming to a head. I mean, I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 1151.54, + "end": 1157.06, + "text": " It's true, but the FIA shouldn't be worried about the commercial side of the sport. Really," + }, + { + "start": 1157.06, + "end": 1161.06, + "text": " and the commercial side of the sport don't really get involved with the governance of the sport," + }, + { + "start": 1161.06, + "end": 1164.98, + "text": " because they are two separate entities. And that's what the European Union decided. All those" + }, + { + "start": 1164.98, + "end": 1171.7, + "text": " years ago. And you know, you have the two sides to it. We'll find out more, I'm sure," + }, + { + "start": 1172.26, + "end": 1177.6200000000001, + "text": " the weekend will certainly ask those sort of questions. But yeah, and I had a message." + }, + { + "start": 1178.42, + "end": 1182.34, + "text": " Someone sent me a message saying that the old footage had been sacked about an hour before" + }, + { + "start": 1182.34, + "end": 1189.14, + "text": " the news came through last week. And Craig Slater, because he is that news hound, chased up the" + }, + { + "start": 1189.14, + "end": 1195.22, + "text": " story. And I've got the truth out of it. Monaco, I think, by the way, great that Monaco is on the" + }, + { + "start": 1195.22, + "end": 1200.5800000000002, + "text": " calendar for for another six years. Now let's sit down and have a chat about how we can improve" + }, + { + "start": 1200.5800000000002, + "end": 1205.5400000000002, + "text": " the overtaking there and try and get some overtaking. There is some reclaimed land. 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And I think we need to" + }, + { + "start": 1238.1000000000001, + "end": 1244.3400000000001, + "text": " look at that. What it does mean by moving Monaco is that Canada can now move and will either back to" + }, + { + "start": 1244.34, + "end": 1248.58, + "text": " back with Miami or there'll be a week off in between. That will come forward into May. That's been" + }, + { + "start": 1248.58, + "end": 1254.34, + "text": " announced by by Formula One Miami might be moving by a week then to to make that a back to back" + }, + { + "start": 1254.34, + "end": 1260.1, + "text": " and for sustainability. And we should always look at that. And what we can do as a collective to" + }, + { + "start": 1260.1, + "end": 1265.4599999999998, + "text": " try and and help cut down on the emissions, that can only be a good thing as well. Certainly here." + }, + { + "start": 1265.4599999999998, + "end": 1270.6599999999999, + "text": " I mean, we could do a whole other podcast on changes to the Monaco circuit. Let's save that, shall we?" + }, + { + "start": 1270.66, + "end": 1276.02, + "text": " For another day when you don't have an extra. Yeah, let's save that for May next year. And also" + }, + { + "start": 1276.02, + "end": 1279.5400000000002, + "text": " time when you don't have a flight to catch early tomorrow morning, no doubt to Vegas." + }, + { + "start": 1279.5400000000002, + "end": 1283.46, + "text": " Croftie, thank you so much for your insight and for your time in a busy week just before Vegas." + }, + { + "start": 1283.46, + "end": 1289.0600000000002, + "text": " Save travels. Thank you, my friend. And we'll speak to you from Las Vegas. And see you, Matt," + }, + { + "start": 1289.0600000000002, + "end": 1291.7, + "text": " when we let rip on the strip, you can have that one on me." + }, + { + "start": 1292.66, + "end": 1300.66, + "text": " Now, before Tom Bellingham joins us a quick word on our podcast sponsor Dropbox." + }, + { + "start": 1300.66, + "end": 1305.78, + "text": " In Formula One, as soon as one race finishes, the focus shifts to the next with the team reviewing" + }, + { + "start": 1305.78, + "end": 1311.3, + "text": " terabytes of data after every Grand Prix in a sport where milliseconds can make all the difference" + }, + { + "start": 1311.3, + "end": 1316.82, + "text": " sifting through this content is a race between races as an official technology partner of the McClaren" + }, + { + "start": 1316.82, + "end": 1321.46, + "text": " Formula One team Dropbox helps them quickly search and manage this vast amount of" + }, + { + "start": 1321.46, + "end": 1326.9, + "text": " content and data with Dropbox dashed the team can find the information they need in an instant" + }, + { + "start": 1326.9, + "end": 1332.1000000000001, + "text": " reducing time spent searching. 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And look, let's actually start with a quick chat about Vegas because," + }, + { + "start": 1359.54, + "end": 1364.58, + "text": " as I mentioned, we've spoken to Croftie a little bit about what he's expecting, but you, but you" + }, + { + "start": 1364.58, + "end": 1369.14, + "text": " went last year as a more of a fan capacity. So we've heard what it's like from a broad" + }, + { + "start": 1369.14, + "end": 1374.34, + "text": " castus from a team's perspective, but take us inside what it was like to go to the last Vegas" + }, + { + "start": 1374.34, + "end": 1378.34, + "text": " Grand Prix as a fan. You say we were from the fans, we're actually lucky enough to watch" + }, + { + "start": 1378.34, + "end": 1386.1, + "text": " from Red Bull Hospitality. I wait, we weren't quite slimming it. So Red Bull kindly invited me in" + }, + { + "start": 1386.1, + "end": 1392.34, + "text": " Matt to watch from there, kind of like balcony. So we could see the kind of, I think it's 10-3 as" + }, + { + "start": 1392.34, + "end": 1398.82, + "text": " they come around onto that long straight, which was, which is very cool. And yeah, it was," + }, + { + "start": 1398.82, + "end": 1403.3799999999999, + "text": " it was a strange experience as a fan because they try and block everything off, which was a bit" + }, + { + "start": 1403.3799999999999, + "end": 1408.26, + "text": " unusual when you're used to your likes of Silverstone where you can kind of walk everywhere." + }, + { + "start": 1408.98, + "end": 1413.9399999999998, + "text": " Do whatever, but you're kind of, you're very much like constricted into zones and things." + }, + { + "start": 1413.9399999999998, + "end": 1421.06, + "text": " It'd be interesting to see if that's the same this year. Obviously, there was a lot of logistics" + }, + { + "start": 1421.06, + "end": 1426.1, + "text": " involved to make it happen. And I can't imagine it was an easy thing to do, but they've got it for" + }, + { + "start": 1426.1, + "end": 1429.86, + "text": " 10 years. So I'm sure they'll have learnt from the last one. Yeah, I imagine there's going to be" + }, + { + "start": 1429.86, + "end": 1434.1, + "text": " a few changes here all there, certainly with the setting up of the Grand Prix this year." + }, + { + "start": 1434.1, + "end": 1437.9399999999998, + "text": " And now I've got you on. A couple of things we're going to talk about. The first thing really" + }, + { + "start": 1437.94, + "end": 1444.74, + "text": " is just reflect on Max Verstappen's season and kind of how it's gone from because it's really" + }, + { + "start": 1444.74, + "end": 1450.5, + "text": " had highs, but it's also have lows. And as we sit here, it's likely he's going to win his fourth" + }, + { + "start": 1450.5, + "end": 1456.8200000000002, + "text": " world championship this weekend in Las Vegas. How are you reflecting on this season for Max?" + }, + { + "start": 1456.8200000000002, + "end": 1463.3, + "text": " It's been a very unusual season because I think at the start of the year, if you look at the kind" + }, + { + "start": 1464.26, + "end": 1470.26, + "text": " of four wins from five at the start of the year and arguably in Australia, if you hadn't" + }, + { + "start": 1470.26, + "end": 1474.58, + "text": " have had his car failure, you probably would have won that as well. And we were looking like it's" + }, + { + "start": 1474.58, + "end": 1482.8999999999999, + "text": " going to be another 2023. He might even win every single race. And then the the form really did" + }, + { + "start": 1483.7, + "end": 1489.3, + "text": " dip down throughout the season. McLaren obviously took that massively forward in Miami and looked like" + }, + { + "start": 1489.3, + "end": 1496.34, + "text": " they had a better car definitely since Miami. 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Then he's had this hugely dominant car, which let's be honest, no other" + }, + { + "start": 1587.7800000000002, + "end": 1593.22, + "text": " team has been able to get near to Red Bull over the last couple of seasons this year. We have had" + }, + { + "start": 1593.3, + "end": 1598.98, + "text": " McLaren and Ferrari who have been able to get close to the Red Bull. So I think when he eventually" + }, + { + "start": 1598.98, + "end": 1604.9, + "text": " does win his fourth world title, there's not many, I don't feel like anyone can detract away from" + }, + { + "start": 1604.9, + "end": 1608.9, + "text": " the what he's done on track. He has won it fair and square. Would you agree?" + }, + { + "start": 1609.46, + "end": 1616.34, + "text": " Yes, it's funny how it's panned out that I think even in 2023, which I think is unfair, but it's" + }, + { + "start": 1616.34, + "end": 1620.74, + "text": " stored it. You had exactly the same narrative with Lewis Hamilton when he was dominating a Michael" + }, + { + "start": 1620.74, + "end": 1626.1, + "text": " Schumacher. There's this thing in Formula One where people like to dismiss these drivers because" + }, + { + "start": 1626.1, + "end": 1630.18, + "text": " it's like, oh, it's just the car. And you know, the staff and did something last year that no other" + }, + { + "start": 1630.18, + "end": 1635.78, + "text": " driver managed to do to win that many races, almost win every single one in an entire season," + }, + { + "start": 1636.58, + "end": 1642.26, + "text": " gone these massive win streaks. And I think, yeah, there was of course people going, oh, well," + }, + { + "start": 1642.26, + "end": 1646.26, + "text": " it's just a car, of course, he's going to win every race. It's easy for him. 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So you can, you can just watch the F1 show at a reasonable" + }, + { + "start": 2600.58, + "end": 2605.06, + "text": " time in the morning, and I think you'd be covered. The Saturday, FP3 is on air from 2.15 in the" + }, + { + "start": 2605.06, + "end": 2611.22, + "text": " morning. You can then catch all the build up to qualifying from 5 AM for a 6 AM start Sunday or" + }, + { + "start": 2611.22, + "end": 2615.06, + "text": " Saturday night, if you're in Vegas, but Sunday morning in the UK, we're going to build up to the" + }, + { + "start": 2615.7, + "end": 2622.2599999999998, + "text": " or 30 for a lights out at 6 o'clock. And yeah, those are your timings. Tom, I wish you all the best" + }, + { + "start": 2622.2599999999998, + "end": 2627.54, + "text": " with your sleep this weekend, and I hope you, thank you very much. Yeah, I hope if you do get" + }, + { + "start": 2627.54, + "end": 2632.18, + "text": " up early, it's worth it for FP2, certainly. I hope we get some good, some good action. And we'll" + }, + { + "start": 2632.18, + "end": 2636.66, + "text": " be back as always next Tuesday to look back at the Las Vegas Grand Prix. Hope you can join us then." + }, + { + "start": 2636.66, + "end": 2637.46, + "text": " Bye for now." + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/How_to_Make_Learning_as_Addictive_as_Social_Media_Duolingo's_Luis_Von_Ahn_TED.json b/Transcipts_base/How_to_Make_Learning_as_Addictive_as_Social_Media_Duolingo's_Luis_Von_Ahn_TED.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..5af40635259fd815f4f72cf9eadd3ed462e830be --- /dev/null +++ b/Transcipts_base/How_to_Make_Learning_as_Addictive_as_Social_Media_Duolingo's_Luis_Von_Ahn_TED.json @@ -0,0 +1,692 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 9.6, + "text": " So, I'm from Guatemala. This is a public service announcement that is word" + }, + { + "start": 9.6, + "end": 16.240000000000002, + "text": " Guatemala is. 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In the case of Duolingo, for example, there are more people learning languages on Duolingo" + }, + { + "start": 667.12, + "end": 671.12, + "text": " in the United States than there are people learning languages across all US high schools combined." + }, + { + "start": 671.36, + "end": 680.64, + "text": " And this is true in most countries in the world. My hope is that I know we can do this, but my" + }, + { + "start": 680.64, + "end": 684.96, + "text": " hope is that as humanity, we can do what Duolingo has done for learning languages, but for all of" + }, + { + "start": 684.96, + "end": 690.96, + "text": " the subjects where we can get people to learn math with mobile phones, like millions of people to" + }, + { + "start": 690.96, + "end": 695.92, + "text": " learn math with mobile phones or physics or whatever. I hope for a future in which" + }, + { + "start": 696.0799999999999, + "end": 701.12, + "text": " screen time is not a bad thing in which we can deliver high quality education to everyone," + }, + { + "start": 701.12, + "end": 706.4799999999999, + "text": " richer poor using a mobile phone. But the single most important thing that I can end this talk with" + }, + { + "start": 707.68, + "end": 714.24, + "text": " is a reminder to please, pretty please, I beg you, to your language lessons today. Thank you very" + }, + { + "start": 714.24, + "end": 725.44, + "text": " much. Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 725.44, + "end": 730.0, + "text": " Louise, thank you so much. Thank you. I wonder if you can just say a little bit more about that" + }, + { + "start": 730.0, + "end": 736.08, + "text": " last point about how do you how do you think that you can apply this type of thinking to other" + }, + { + "start": 736.08, + "end": 739.6, + "text": " subjects? So you mentioned math, you mentioned things like that. How do you do that?" + }, + { + "start": 740.24, + "end": 744.8000000000001, + "text": " Yeah, I think in particular subjects that are learned through repetition, and it turns out most" + }, + { + "start": 744.8000000000001, + "end": 748.96, + "text": " things that are really meaningful to learn through thousands of thousands of repetitions, you learn to" + }, + { + "start": 748.96, + "end": 753.6, + "text": " read through repetition, you learn elementary school math through repetition, most things that you can" + }, + { + "start": 753.6, + "end": 757.52, + "text": " learn through repetition, you can actually gamify and turn into something like Duolingo where people" + }, + { + "start": 757.52, + "end": 762.8000000000001, + "text": " just do it a lot and do it fun. It's a little harder for things like explanations, that's probably" + }, + { + "start": 762.8000000000001, + "end": 767.12, + "text": " going to require some really good videos. Salcan is doing a really good job with that, but for things" + }, + { + "start": 767.12, + "end": 771.12, + "text": " that require a lot of repetition, I think we can use the same methods. Amazing, thank you so much for" + }, + { + "start": 771.12, + "end": 774.08, + "text": " sharing. Thank you." + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/IntrigueTheRatline.mp3.json b/Transcipts_base/IntrigueTheRatline.mp3.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..00cf79aecceddece0483b2f7628310995c9dd9e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/Transcipts_base/IntrigueTheRatline.mp3.json @@ -0,0 +1,1597 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 2.0, + "text": " This is the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 17.28, + "end": 23.04, + "text": " Hello and welcome to Podcasting House. If this is your first time listening to us," + }, + { + "start": 23.04, + "end": 28.32, + "text": " here is what we're doing. You are about to hear a full episode of a BBC podcast that we think" + }, + { + "start": 28.32, + "end": 33.84, + "text": " is really great. My name is Eli, what's the name is Rianne? Hello Rianne. Hello Rianne. What have you" + }, + { + "start": 33.84, + "end": 40.88, + "text": " got for us today? I have got the quite amazing The Rat Line. I mean I can't get enough of this" + }, + { + "start": 40.88, + "end": 49.36, + "text": " podcast. So the story is it is so multilead. It's presented by the human rights lawyer, Philippe Sands." + }, + { + "start": 49.36, + "end": 55.28, + "text": " It uses the voices of Stephen Fry and Laura Linney. It's based on the story of this Nazi" + }, + { + "start": 55.28, + "end": 61.28, + "text": " officer and what really happened to him in the aftermath of World War II. Big mystery story" + }, + { + "start": 61.28, + "end": 67.68, + "text": " with these love letters between him and his wife, with this strange goings-on in the Vatican" + }, + { + "start": 68.32000000000001, + "end": 76.56, + "text": " and the Soviets are involved. It is a thrilling story and I'm so hooked. Okay so this is episode 1." + }, + { + "start": 76.56, + "end": 78.48, + "text": " We're going to start you with the beginning The Rat Line." + }, + { + "start": 85.52, + "end": 91.92, + "text": " Spring 1942, Austria. The Baroness and her six children are at their summer house in" + }, + { + "start": 91.92, + "end": 99.28, + "text": " Zelle Amze in a dillic lake side town near Salzburg. They're bronzing themselves in the mountain" + }, + { + "start": 99.28, + "end": 107.12, + "text": " sun, boating, frolicing in the low. She writes to our husband the children are thriving and becoming" + }, + { + "start": 107.12, + "end": 116.08000000000001, + "text": " strong swimmers. Swimming is important in this story. The Baron can't be with them this summer." + }, + { + "start": 116.08000000000001, + "end": 123.36000000000001, + "text": " It's a shame but he's much too occupied with his work 700 miles away in a place called Lemberg" + }, + { + "start": 123.36000000000001, + "end": 131.28, + "text": " which used to be called Le Vouffe. In a letter to his wife he writes there's a lot going on in Lemberg." + }, + { + "start": 131.28, + "end": 135.84, + "text": " He just doesn't have time to join his family not right now anyway." + }, + { + "start": 140.72, + "end": 146.96, + "text": " There is indeed a lot going on in Lemberg. Over the course of four months in 1942," + }, + { + "start": 146.96, + "end": 152.24, + "text": " Lemberg's Jewish population was steadily swiftly and ruthlessly liquidated." + }, + { + "start": 154.16, + "end": 160.32, + "text": " Shot, hanged or sent to Belzec, a nearby extermination camp where they were gassed." + }, + { + "start": 162.0, + "end": 167.84, + "text": " I've got a certain interest in these events because my work as a barrister involves me in many" + }, + { + "start": 167.84, + "end": 176.72, + "text": " cases of mass killing but also for another reason. My grandfather Leon's entire family virtually" + }, + { + "start": 176.72, + "end": 183.28, + "text": " all the flashners and the bookholders 80 people or more from Lemberg and nearby Zulkyev were among" + }, + { + "start": 183.28, + "end": 190.16, + "text": " those who were murdered in those months. Uncle's, aunts, cousins, nephews, nieces and more distant" + }, + { + "start": 190.16, + "end": 197.2, + "text": " family members all wiped out. Names like Malca, my great-grandmother who I never knew" + }, + { + "start": 197.2, + "end": 203.28, + "text": " and her brothers Jorzel, Harren and Libus and their children and their children's children" + }, + { + "start": 203.28, + "end": 205.68, + "text": " all extinguished in a matter of months." + }, + { + "start": 210.32, + "end": 217.04, + "text": " Whilst the banners and the children were relaxing by the lake, my grandfather's family were being murdered." + }, + { + "start": 220.79999999999998, + "end": 225.44, + "text": " I'm Philippe Sands and this is the Rat Line." + }, + { + "start": 231.28, + "end": 237.04, + "text": " Document number 00508 issued by the Central Registry for War Criminals," + }, + { + "start": 237.76, + "end": 241.12, + "text": " date of crimes 1942 to 1945." + }, + { + "start": 243.92, + "end": 245.68, + "text": " Town crime committed in Levolve." + }, + { + "start": 248.64, + "end": 254.16, + "text": " Subject is responsible for mass murder, shooting and executions under his command as governor" + }, + { + "start": 254.16, + "end": 260.8, + "text": " of District of Galicia. 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normally." + }, + { + "start": 693.76, + "end": 694.7199999999999, + "text": " Because I lost the key." + }, + { + "start": 695.68, + "end": 698.4, + "text": " I lost the key. Yes, afterwards. After pedalogues." + }, + { + "start": 698.4, + "end": 700.0799999999999, + "text": " So we're going to get in? How are we going to get in?" + }, + { + "start": 700.4799999999999, + "end": 701.76, + "text": " Well, that's... instrument." + }, + { + "start": 702.3199999999999, + "end": 705.04, + "text": " He's waving a heavy duty metal cutter." + }, + { + "start": 705.04, + "end": 705.8399999999999, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 705.8399999999999, + "end": 706.64, + "text": " Let's go." + }, + { + "start": 706.64, + "end": 707.04, + "text": " Let's go." + }, + { + "start": 707.04, + "end": 707.8399999999999, + "text": " Oh, shut up." + }, + { + "start": 711.28, + "end": 712.8, + "text": " Can you hold this for me?" + }, + { + "start": 714.3199999999999, + "end": 716.56, + "text": " You want your mind, my fingers?" + }, + { + "start": 719.4399999999999, + "end": 719.92, + "text": " Please." + }, + { + "start": 724.2399999999999, + "end": 724.4799999999999, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 725.4399999999999, + "end": 728.2399999999999, + "text": " Ah, this is the National Socialist 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I just can't tell you what it looks like," + }, + { + "start": 2001.7199999999998, + "end": 2012.52, + "text": " because each team is different than how they talk." + }, + { + "start": 2016.84, + "end": 2021.56, + "text": " Okay, let's talk a little bit more about Carlos Scynts. You said a minute ago that" + }, + { + "start": 2022.4399999999998, + "end": 2027.6399999999999, + "text": " Scynts album is the best driver loan up in Formula One. I just want to put it to you, you so" + }, + { + "start": 2027.6399999999999, + "end": 2035.8, + "text": " better than Hamilton LeClaire Cup Ferrari next year, better than Norris Piaestry at McLaren." + }, + { + "start": 2035.8, + "end": 2040.36, + "text": " That's my opinion of it, and I'll explain some of the reasons behind it to a certain extent," + }, + { + "start": 2040.36, + "end": 2044.6799999999998, + "text": " A, they're both performing at a very high level. 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And then that'll be a" + }, + { + "start": 2281.56, + "end": 2287.3199999999997, + "text": " problem for the future, which is much brighter. So answering your question, you definitely need to set" + }, + { + "start": 2287.3199999999997, + "end": 2291.7999999999997, + "text": " long-term objectives and where you're going. It's just the typical way of thinking about it is in" + }, + { + "start": 2291.8, + "end": 2296.84, + "text": " championship form. Oh, we're going to finish X in a championship. What I'm more pivoting the" + }, + { + "start": 2296.84, + "end": 2300.84, + "text": " organization towards is these the capabilities of need, this the dev rate we need, this is the" + }, + { + "start": 2300.84, + "end": 2306.52, + "text": " infrastructure we need, the championships are now come of that. That's the core matrix that we" + }, + { + "start": 2306.52, + "end": 2314.2000000000003, + "text": " have to judge ourselves by. So James, this team is a team in transition. 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Yep." + }, + { + "start": 2345.8, + "end": 2350.84, + "text": " How confident can you be for 26? You've got a Mercedes power unit. Let's start with that. Do you" + }, + { + "start": 2350.84, + "end": 2357.6400000000003, + "text": " think it's going to be a power unit for you? I think Mercedes have done an exceptional job," + }, + { + "start": 2357.6400000000003, + "end": 2363.32, + "text": " which is why I was very happy to we sign back up for an extension to it. And I think you're going" + }, + { + "start": 2363.32, + "end": 2366.84, + "text": " to see differences between power units that do not exist today. Today pretty much all" + }, + { + "start": 2366.84, + "end": 2371.8, + "text": " power units are much from muchness. I think that will change in 26 and you'll see a difference" + }, + { + "start": 2371.8, + "end": 2376.2000000000003, + "text": " between the power units. I just don't think it'll be the levels you saw in 2014 where there was" + }, + { + "start": 2376.2000000000003, + "end": 2381.96, + "text": " such a wide spread between the field. Can you explain to me why you think we're going to see the" + }, + { + "start": 2381.96, + "end": 2389.7200000000003, + "text": " spread because we're getting rid of the MGUH. So that side of it is simplified. And okay, the" + }, + { + "start": 2389.7200000000003, + "end": 2395.08, + "text": " the electrical side is increasing. What is it? 300%. But that's just more of what we're already" + }, + { + "start": 2395.08, + "end": 2399.48, + "text": " doing. So why should we see a big swing? It's true that if you simplify it, it's more of what" + }, + { + "start": 2399.48, + "end": 2403.0, + "text": " we're already doing. 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He made it clear" + }, + { + "start": 2861.6400000000003, + "end": 2867.2400000000002, + "text": " that he's in this business to win. And everything he's done so far at Williams has taken the team" + }, + { + "start": 2867.2400000000002, + "end": 2872.92, + "text": " a step closer to that objective. It'll be fascinating to see what comes next. James," + }, + { + "start": 2872.92, + "end": 2878.36, + "text": " thanks for your time. It was great to catch up. So what did you make of this conversation? We love" + }, + { + "start": 2878.52, + "end": 2883.32, + "text": " your comments. So please send them in. I'm at Tom Clarkson F1 or you can use the hashtag" + }, + { + "start": 2883.32, + "end": 2888.28, + "text": " F1 Beyond the Grid. And that brings me on to what you sent in after last week's show with" + }, + { + "start": 2888.28, + "end": 2895.0, + "text": " Oli Baermann. As well as being hugely fast, Oli's a super nice guy. And I think this message from" + }, + { + "start": 2895.0, + "end": 2900.84, + "text": " Emily Nesbitt summed up what many of you thought. To hear that the first thing that comes to mind when" + }, + { + "start": 2900.84, + "end": 2907.08, + "text": " Oli thinks of being a leader is someone people can depend on makes me really admire him. He's very" + }, + { + "start": 2907.08, + "end": 2912.68, + "text": " mature for someone his age. Honestly, he seems more mature than some of the drivers on the grid who" + }, + { + "start": 2912.68, + "end": 2920.2799999999997, + "text": " are certainly not his age. Thanks for the message Emily and Oli certainly is mature. He's also very calm," + }, + { + "start": 2920.2799999999997, + "end": 2926.6, + "text": " two attributes that will stand him in good stead when he embarks on his F1 career for real next year." + }, + { + "start": 2926.6, + "end": 2931.72, + "text": " Well that's almost it for this week. 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I will start again." + }, + { + "start": 20.400000000000002, + "end": 22.16, + "text": " Sorry. Don't breathe very much." + }, + { + "start": 22.16, + "end": 24.0, + "text": " It's going to be difficult." + }, + { + "start": 25.28, + "end": 27.12, + "text": " Hello and welcome to Podcasting House." + }, + { + "start": 27.12, + "end": 30.96, + "text": " And if this is your first time listening to us, this is what we get up to." + }, + { + "start": 30.96, + "end": 35.84, + "text": " We sit in our house and twice a week we choose different podcasts that you might like to listen to" + }, + { + "start": 35.84, + "end": 37.760000000000005, + "text": " and they're all from the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 37.760000000000005, + "end": 42.56, + "text": " So if you like the sample that we've offered up to you, you can search for it and subscribe to it." + }, + { + "start": 43.28, + "end": 45.92, + "text": " So I'm Rian and as always I'm joined by Eli." + }, + { + "start": 45.92, + "end": 49.52, + "text": " So Eli what is in your bucket of wonderfulness?" + }, + { + "start": 49.52, + "end": 51.28, + "text": " It's a kank. You remember kank?" + }, + { + "start": 51.28, + "end": 52.08, + "text": " I certainly do." + }, + { + "start": 52.08, + "end": 53.2, + "text": " We did it a few episodes ago." + }, + { + "start": 53.2, + "end": 53.92, + "text": " Oh yeah." + }, + { + "start": 53.92, + "end": 58.88, + "text": " Ray Moss, No Stone Unturned, The Beef and Dairy Networks, been partridge." + }, + { + "start": 58.88, + "end": 61.84, + "text": " Well, it's a sort of pick and mix feed." + }, + { + "start": 61.84, + "end": 65.68, + "text": " They'll do a few episodes of something and then they'll just switch it up and give you a few episodes of something else." + }, + { + "start": 65.68, + "end": 68.88, + "text": " So this is the next thing in the kank feed." + }, + { + "start": 68.88, + "end": 71.68, + "text": " It's called The Birthday Girls House Party." + }, + { + "start": 71.68, + "end": 73.92, + "text": " It's, I'm just, it's ridiculous." + }, + { + "start": 73.92, + "end": 74.96000000000001, + "text": " 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"text": " How do you do it?" + }, + { + "start": 750.5600000000001, + "end": 751.84, + "text": " The last one says," + }, + { + "start": 751.84, + "end": 752.6400000000001, + "text": " A Ford." + }, + { + "start": 756.08, + "end": 756.88, + "text": " Try reading instructions." + }, + { + "start": 756.88, + "end": 758.32, + "text": " Yeah, read the instructions." + }, + { + "start": 758.32, + "end": 759.9200000000001, + "text": " Number one, grab a few friends." + }, + { + "start": 760.5600000000001, + "end": 761.0400000000001, + "text": " Done." + }, + { + "start": 761.0400000000001, + "end": 761.6, + "text": " Couple more." + }, + { + "start": 763.36, + "end": 764.5600000000001, + "text": " Now I'm taking one." + }, + { + "start": 764.5600000000001, + "end": 765.12, + "text": " Yeah, go on." + }, + { + "start": 765.6800000000001, + "end": 766.24, + "text": " Grab a seat." + }, + { + "start": 766.88, + "end": 767.7600000000001, + "text": " I can't think of that." + }, + { + "start": 767.7600000000001, + "end": 768.8000000000001, + "text": " Get to it." + }, + { + "start": 768.8000000000001, + "end": 769.44, + "text": " You know what I mean?" + }, + { + "start": 769.44, + "end": 770.32, + "text": " Grab a seat." + }, + { + "start": 771.6800000000001, + "end": 772.4000000000001, + "text": " Be patient." + }, + { + "start": 773.5200000000001, + "end": 776.1600000000001, + "text": " Wait, listen to these fucking instructions." + }, + { + "start": 777.04, + "end": 780.7199999999999, + "text": " The myths about moving the planche at to warm it up mean nothing." + }, + { + "start": 780.7199999999999, + "end": 781.6, + "text": " What's the planche at?" + }, + { + "start": 781.6, + "end": 782.0, + "text": " Do you know what I mean?" + }, + { + "start": 782.0, + "end": 783.1999999999999, + "text": " They've missed out the basics." + }, + { + "start": 783.1999999999999, + "end": 783.52, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 783.52, + "end": 784.3199999999999, + "text": " 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What order in the food?" + }, + { + "start": 1682.6, + "end": 1686.28, + "text": " Order some Nando's, yeah. Right, so we're going to order some Nando's." + }, + { + "start": 1686.28, + "end": 1689.8, + "text": " They have Nando's. Yeah, so if you got like a standard Nando's." + }, + { + "start": 1689.8, + "end": 1695.3999999999999, + "text": " Yeah, but you like, if you do get this, if you do get this, you are psychic because" + }, + { + "start": 1695.8000000000002, + "end": 1701.72, + "text": " Oh, this is the test. This is a very difficult order. If you get this." + }, + { + "start": 1701.72, + "end": 1705.88, + "text": " I'm allowed two questions to help me. Okay. Okay. Wait, you can't." + }, + { + "start": 1705.88, + "end": 1711.3200000000002, + "text": " Well, what are the questions? The questions are, is bread involved as in" + }, + { + "start": 1711.3200000000002, + "end": 1717.0800000000002, + "text": " pizza, your bun? No. Okay. 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That will last you several years. So long as you're" + }, + { + "start": 949.68, + "end": 954.64, + "text": " doing things like we talk about on the store, restart on this on the show, restarting regularly," + }, + { + "start": 954.64, + "end": 960.24, + "text": " having a good relationship with your local IT guy or gal, you know, for any issues you need and" + }, + { + "start": 960.24, + "end": 965.12, + "text": " get yourself a decent antivirus like a vast. If you stay on top of those things, you're looking at" + }, + { + "start": 965.12, + "end": 969.6, + "text": " a good life for when you when you do get, you know, for your current computer, you have up until" + }, + { + "start": 969.6, + "end": 976.8, + "text": " when it's time for Windows 11 and then after Windows 11. I hope that made sense. No problem. Hopefully," + }, + { + "start": 976.8, + "end": 983.44, + "text": " I didn't then jumble that up too fast for you. No, it was I had time to write it all down. So I'm" + }, + { + "start": 983.44, + "end": 990.0, + "text": " good to go. I know y'all are in a cellar on fan. You already know what time it is. So I got that" + }, + { + "start": 990.48, + "end": 995.92, + "text": " I'm glad that that that has gone. Don't get no cellar on. Don't do it. And don't get them to" + }, + { + "start": 995.92, + "end": 1002.0, + "text": " the line and don't get a touch screen. Don't do it. Yeah. My wife's Chromebook has a touch screen." + }, + { + "start": 1002.0, + "end": 1008.64, + "text": " I'm not for me. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you so much. All right. Take these Frank." + }, + { + "start": 1008.64, + "end": 1013.6, + "text": " Appreciate you calling in Frank. And you know, you're talking, you know, previously we always said" + }, + { + "start": 1013.6, + "end": 1019.76, + "text": " eight gigabytes of RAM. Now you're saying 16 gigs. And this is for further support for in the future." + }, + { + "start": 1020.0, + "end": 1027.28, + "text": " Chrome. So like what like previously, this what you what we suggested would support Windows 11." + }, + { + "start": 1028.08, + "end": 1034.32, + "text": " And might support Windows 12. But when it gets into 13, 14 or whatever they change the name to" + }, + { + "start": 1034.32, + "end": 1039.6, + "text": " yeah. Yeah. Once it gets that further along, we're not sure of the no telling no telling again," + }, + { + "start": 1039.6, + "end": 1046.88, + "text": " like the windows. The memory requirements 10 years ago, the memory requirements 15 years ago" + }, + { + "start": 1047.7600000000002, + "end": 1055.3600000000001, + "text": " were like fractions of what we use today of what this computer right here is. 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That's what I said versus if you had a video that was stored on a flash drive that you" + }, + { + "start": 1246.8, + "end": 1250.6399999999999, + "text": " have put right. That's not going to break. Right. Now, I mean, now again, there are other moving parts" + }, + { + "start": 1250.6399999999999, + "end": 1254.24, + "text": " inside of the computer. I should put that caveat out there. There are other moving parts like the" + }, + { + "start": 1254.24, + "end": 1258.56, + "text": " fan and other things that doesn't mean that the screen won't break. But a solid state hard drive" + }, + { + "start": 1258.56, + "end": 1263.28, + "text": " is not going to break. Right. It's not not nowhere is eating. It's nowhere near as fragile as a" + }, + { + "start": 1263.28, + "end": 1267.6, + "text": " traditional mechanical hard drive. We had a, we had every day take you not encouraged to drop" + }, + { + "start": 1268.24, + "end": 1275.04, + "text": " your computer. Just, just so that's clear. Also, I don't know if you heard a second ago, but" + }, + { + "start": 1275.04, + "end": 1279.04, + "text": " if you heard any jingling a second ago, when severe brought up a flash drive, he pulled out his" + }, + { + "start": 1279.04, + "end": 1284.08, + "text": " keys and he had a flash drive on his key ring. That's it. I know I don't just have one flat drive." + }, + { + "start": 1284.08, + "end": 1289.4399999999998, + "text": " Not just one flat drive on this thing. There's one right there that does certain things and there's" + }, + { + "start": 1289.4399999999998, + "end": 1293.6799999999998, + "text": " one right there that does certain things. Look at that. Yeah. That's it. That's brilliant." + }, + { + "start": 1293.92, + "end": 1300.24, + "text": " I'm glad you found our show Everyday Tech on MPB Think Radio. This is Abram Naney still here" + }, + { + "start": 1300.24, + "end": 1308.0800000000002, + "text": " with Sabir Abdul-Hawk, who is ready to answer your questions. Email us at EverydayTech at MPBOnline.org." + }, + { + "start": 1308.0800000000002, + "end": 1314.0800000000002, + "text": " Now, so here's what's popular on the top streaming services right now, which is as of today, July" + }, + { + "start": 1314.8, + "end": 1320.96, + "text": " 31st, 2020, before here's what we've got. So on Netflix, the movie trolls band together" + }, + { + "start": 1320.96, + "end": 1326.32, + "text": " tops the movie charts. As dirty pop, the boy band scam takes over as the number one show. Wow." + }, + { + "start": 1327.52, + "end": 1332.16, + "text": " Yeah, I'd not heard about that until I was researching this and saw that it was another number one." + }, + { + "start": 1332.16, + "end": 1338.0, + "text": " Okay. HBO sees Knox goes away, become the number one movie. And of course, House of the Dragon" + }, + { + "start": 1338.0, + "end": 1343.68, + "text": " remains the number one show for Make That Seven Week Straight. Of course, they're celebrating over there" + }, + { + "start": 1343.68, + "end": 1348.8, + "text": " because of the House of the Dragon. I am. I love it. Every Sunday. Every episode of Seven was fantastic." + }, + { + "start": 1348.8799999999999, + "end": 1352.96, + "text": " It was. It was. I just saw it. We were like, yo, it's so good. It was good and good." + }, + { + "start": 1352.96, + "end": 1357.36, + "text": " It was one of those that like you you're just like, I want to immediately watch the next step." + }, + { + "start": 1357.36, + "end": 1361.84, + "text": " Correct. And we have to wait a week. We have to wait a week. How dare they? Is it only eight episodes" + }, + { + "start": 1361.84, + "end": 1365.28, + "text": " this season? I think it is only an episode. Now Lee is this Sunday. Sunday. Yep." + }, + { + "start": 1366.08, + "end": 1372.32, + "text": " I'm so excited. All right. 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I just found myself in a little" + }, + { + "start": 1401.28, + "end": 1405.52, + "text": " algorithm and just found myself in a wormhole of all kinds of stuff where people were just clowning" + }, + { + "start": 1405.52, + "end": 1411.2, + "text": " Disney so bad for so many other shows that are being axed. So, you know, but I mean," + }, + { + "start": 1411.2, + "end": 1416.96, + "text": " blue isn't going nowhere. Blue is the juggernaut. Blue is Muhammad Ali of family shows. But you" + }, + { + "start": 1416.96, + "end": 1423.68, + "text": " ain't going to wear the Muhammad Ali shows. That is a great lightning name for that. All right." + }, + { + "start": 1423.68, + "end": 1429.52, + "text": " Amazon Primes movie charts sees my spy stay at number one while the show The Boys also remains" + }, + { + "start": 1429.52, + "end": 1434.6399999999999, + "text": " on top. The newly released Transformers Rise of the Beast is a number one movie while Mayor of" + }, + { + "start": 1434.64, + "end": 1440.24, + "text": " Kingstown becomes the number one show on Paramount Plus. Oh, that's a reaction. Yes. Let's go." + }, + { + "start": 1440.24, + "end": 1444.3200000000002, + "text": " Okay. Tell me. Yeah. Me runner is doing no wrong. This is season three. Jeremy Rune." + }, + { + "start": 1444.3200000000002, + "end": 1451.1200000000001, + "text": " It's a scary, scary talent. Like I didn't. It's one thing to touch into his chops when he played Hawkeye" + }, + { + "start": 1451.1200000000001, + "end": 1456.0, + "text": " on the Marvel movies. And I don't know if y'all ever got a chance to see a born legacy." + }, + { + "start": 1456.72, + "end": 1462.0800000000002, + "text": " More legacy. That right there was like, okay, who is this person? 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The new season of Bosch legacy and" + }, + { + "start": 1629.76, + "end": 1635.76, + "text": " reaches season four are bananas when it comes to the books that are attached to both bananas is" + }, + { + "start": 1635.76, + "end": 1642.24, + "text": " the technical time. This is definitely the technical. So yeah. So that was on Paramount Plus. And" + }, + { + "start": 1642.24, + "end": 1646.8, + "text": " finally with Hulu, the number one movie is Deadpool as the excitement peaked since its second" + }, + { + "start": 1646.8, + "end": 1651.84, + "text": " sequel hit theaters this past week and house of the dragon is also the number one show on Hulu as" + }, + { + "start": 1651.84, + "end": 1656.24, + "text": " well. Correct. So that's what people in the United States are streaming right now according to" + }, + { + "start": 1656.24, + "end": 1662.08, + "text": " Flix Patrol.com. 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And then they're not trusting like, well, this person isn't here, this person" + }, + { + "start": 2083.92, + "end": 2088.0, + "text": " doesn't sound, you know, the center third that which is, you know, I don't, you know, that's one" + }, + { + "start": 2088.08, + "end": 2093.12, + "text": " way one thing or another, but an IT expert that's trying to help you is trying to help you. Just" + }, + { + "start": 2093.12, + "end": 2098.56, + "text": " give them, give them your, give them your attention and go from there. WhatsApp has been allowed," + }, + { + "start": 2098.56, + "end": 2106.56, + "text": " has been great to be able to walk that, walk that nervousness that I've seen down from folks." + }, + { + "start": 2106.56, + "end": 2110.48, + "text": " Okay. And it's, and the fact that they also archive everything in your, in your conversations" + }, + { + "start": 2110.48, + "end": 2116.32, + "text": " is also very helpful. Right. Yeah. If you have any questions, call us or email us today at every" + }, + { + "start": 2116.32, + "end": 2121.6800000000003, + "text": " day tech at mpbonline.org. We got a few calls to get to. So we're going to hop right back to" + }, + { + "start": 2121.6800000000003, + "end": 2127.1200000000003, + "text": " Greg and Columbus, who was able to call us back in and Greg was up. Hey, yo, we'll, we'll," + }, + { + "start": 2127.1200000000003, + "end": 2132.0800000000004, + "text": " make great show as usual. Thanks. I was going to, I was going to roll. So I can call it in." + }, + { + "start": 2132.0800000000004, + "end": 2138.32, + "text": " I overheard a, a, a, a, a, a, not a question, but a person that called in about what to look for." + }, + { + "start": 2138.32, + "end": 2145.36, + "text": " And I heard the, uh, take me saying about 16 gigabytes and 256. 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I appreciate that." + }, + { + "start": 2237.68, + "end": 2243.6, + "text": " Yeah, I appreciate it. And if you need us to, uh, to type that out or write it out for you," + }, + { + "start": 2243.6, + "end": 2249.68, + "text": " you can email us at everyday tech at mpbeonline.org. Yep. If you need, uh, any more of those types of" + }, + { + "start": 2249.68, + "end": 2253.2799999999997, + "text": " questions, we're going to stick on the phone lines probably for the rest of the show. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2253.28, + "end": 2258.2400000000002, + "text": " We have Neil and mobile who is asking questions about an anti virus." + }, + { + "start": 2260.6400000000003, + "end": 2267.52, + "text": " Neil, you got either of those? Sure, yes, I am. I'll make it quick and then hang up and listen" + }, + { + "start": 2267.52, + "end": 2276.7200000000003, + "text": " to the answer. I've got Macafee anti virus on my computer. 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It's talking about the battery that is on it. So do you have both trend micro" + }, + { + "start": 2366.16, + "end": 2373.12, + "text": " and macafee on your computer? Yep. Okay. So first thing is me personally, because I," + }, + { + "start": 2373.68, + "end": 2378.64, + "text": " me personally, this is severe's opinion. Yeah. I don't, I don't like macafee. Me personally." + }, + { + "start": 2378.72, + "end": 2383.44, + "text": " Take macafee off your computer. If you've got trend micro, because two antiviruses will" + }, + { + "start": 2383.44, + "end": 2388.3199999999997, + "text": " butt heads on your computer, they're not, they're not meant to deal with each other outside of" + }, + { + "start": 2388.3199999999997, + "end": 2395.12, + "text": " like the Windows Defender. Windows Defender will work with a lot of antiviruses. But if you try to put" + }, + { + "start": 2395.12, + "end": 2400.56, + "text": " trend micro that you that you're paying for that is fully activated, you're in, you're in," + }, + { + "start": 2400.56, + "end": 2404.48, + "text": " along with macafee, you're going to, it's going to give you problems. So I would take macafee off" + }, + { + "start": 2404.48, + "end": 2410.0, + "text": " your computer completely, everything they got. And you know, if trend micro has privacy apps," + }, + { + "start": 2410.0, + "end": 2416.96, + "text": " cool go with that. Yep. Okay. Thank you. All right, brother. All right. Thank you, Neil. And I," + }, + { + "start": 2416.96, + "end": 2424.08, + "text": " I do think that, you know, like you said, if macafee, it could be an ad, like you said, the macafee" + }, + { + "start": 2424.08, + "end": 2430.88, + "text": " pop up. But macafee could also be recognizing trend micro as whatever it. That's tracking. Yeah," + }, + { + "start": 2430.88, + "end": 2434.7200000000003, + "text": " it could be. It could be. It could be. It could be. All right. So we have one more call we're" + }, + { + "start": 2434.7200000000003, + "end": 2439.6, + "text": " going to try to get to from Hattiesburg. I believe I apologize if I say your name incorrectly." + }, + { + "start": 2439.6, + "end": 2447.52, + "text": " Is Le Mans? Yes. Perfect. All right. What's your question for us? Okay. So I enjoy looking" + }, + { + "start": 2447.52, + "end": 2455.6800000000003, + "text": " to show first of all, but I have a, a H.P. printer. And in the past, I've been able to" + }, + { + "start": 2455.68, + "end": 2464.0, + "text": " sent some cell phones, which is a gallery. And but now, because you just tell me there's a bad" + }, + { + "start": 2464.0, + "end": 2469.68, + "text": " certificate. So what is that all about? And you have any suggestions on what to do?" + }, + { + "start": 2469.68, + "end": 2475.12, + "text": " So great question, Le Mans. So it is. And of course, I know we're low on time. The," + }, + { + "start": 2475.12, + "end": 2480.96, + "text": " um, the, as long as you have the H.P. Smart app on your phone, you may have to update it on your," + }, + { + "start": 2480.96, + "end": 2486.32, + "text": " on your phone. Make sure you have the updated H.P. Smart app. And that your H.P. Smart," + }, + { + "start": 2487.04, + "end": 2492.48, + "text": " that's your registration usually has to be linked to your email now. So make sure it's linked to your" + }, + { + "start": 2492.48, + "end": 2498.08, + "text": " email. Make sure it's updated on your phone and make sure your H.P. printer's firmware, which is" + }, + { + "start": 2498.08, + "end": 2502.64, + "text": " the stuff that works inside of the computer to make it work and do what it needs to do. 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" Maybe it will." + }, + { + "start": 1779.76, + "end": 1780.76, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1780.76, + "end": 1783.76, + "text": " Anyway, we will be just discussing that next week." + }, + { + "start": 1783.76, + "end": 1784.76, + "text": " So, do you get in touch with us?" + }, + { + "start": 1784.76, + "end": 1786.76, + "text": " You can just tell us a story about absolutely anything you like." + }, + { + "start": 1786.76, + "end": 1789.76, + "text": " It doesn't even have to be about sex myths or about first times." + }, + { + "start": 1789.76, + "end": 1790.76, + "text": " We just want to hear from you." + }, + { + "start": 1790.76, + "end": 1793.76, + "text": " So the email address is lifehacksatvbc.co.uk" + }, + { + "start": 1793.76, + "end": 1796.76, + "text": " And don't forget, as well, very important that you subscribe to this podcast" + }, + { + "start": 1796.76, + "end": 1798.76, + "text": " to keep us in game full employment." + }, + { + "start": 1798.76, + "end": 1801.76, + "text": " So, see you next Tuesday." + }, + { + "start": 1801.76, + "end": 1811.76, + "text": " So that was Lifehacks from Radio One." + }, + { + "start": 1812.76, + "end": 1814.76, + "text": " Rhianne, you've got kids." + }, + { + "start": 1814.76, + "end": 1816.76, + "text": " Do you think that they would like this?" + }, + { + "start": 1816.76, + "end": 1818.76, + "text": " I think it's a bit too advanced for them." + }, + { + "start": 1818.76, + "end": 1820.76, + "text": " I think, yeah, I mean, they'll get there." + }, + { + "start": 1820.76, + "end": 1822.76, + "text": " But maybe not quite yet." + }, + { + "start": 1822.76, + "end": 1823.76, + "text": " Got it." + }, + { + "start": 1823.76, + "end": 1824.76, + "text": " I look forward to that moment." + }, + { + "start": 1824.76, + "end": 1825.76, + "text": " Maybe I'll learn more from it." + }, + { + "start": 1825.76, + "end": 1826.76, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1826.76, + "end": 1829.76, + "text": 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It's our last one wanted to do this but you snagged it." + }, + { + "start": 1248.5600000000002, + "end": 1254.3200000000002, + "text": " Let's hear it this is your version of shallow from Astara's born by Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga." + }, + { + "start": 1254.3200000000002, + "end": 1257.76, + "text": " Let's go." + }, + { + "start": 1257.76, + "end": 1267.76, + "text": " Tell me something girl." + }, + { + "start": 1270.48, + "end": 1273.52, + "text": " Are you happy in this modern world?" + }, + { + "start": 1275.2, + "end": 1277.36, + "text": " What do you need more?" + }, + { + "start": 1279.92, + "end": 1282.8, + "text": " Is there something that you're searching for?" + }, + { + "start": 1283.52, + "end": 1288.3999999999999, + "text": " For rights reasons we can only play a short version of Lewis's Live Lounge cover in this podcast." + }, + { + "start": 1288.3999999999999, + "end": 1291.84, + "text": " If you'd like to hear the whole thing you can find it on the Radio One YouTube channel." + }, + { + "start": 1291.84, + "end": 1296.3999999999999, + "text": " To get the latest episodes of Live Lounge Uncovered First including full versions of the featured" + }, + { + "start": 1296.3999999999999, + "end": 1302.6399999999999, + "text": " covers download the BBC Sounds app and subscribe to the podcast. I'm Abby McCarthy thanks for listening." + }, + { + "start": 1313.44, + "end": 1322.1599999999999, + "text": " So there it is the Live Lounge Uncovered there will be new episodes every few weeks." + }, + { + "start": 1322.1599999999999, + "end": 1327.12, + "text": " Sort of basically when they convince somebody to take a little extra time to talk to them and when" + }, + { + "start": 1327.12, + "end": 1333.2, + "text": " I say them I'm talking about Radio One about about the songs. I really hope to see and hear" + }, + { + "start": 1333.2, + "end": 1337.6, + "text": " you know much more of this. There are some beautiful covers out there. 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I'm Matt Baker and joining me this week." + }, + { + "start": 10.0, + "end": 18.0, + "text": " One of the most recognizable voices in F1 broadcasting a man with 158 Grand Prix starts 10 podiums." + }, + { + "start": 18.0, + "end": 25.0, + "text": " A World Sports Card Champion, a Le Mans and Daytona winner. Sky Sports F1's very own Martin Brondel. How are you Martin?" + }, + { + "start": 25.0, + "end": 27.0, + "text": " I'm really good Matt. Thank you looking forward to this." + }, + { + "start": 27.0, + "end": 33.0, + "text": " Yeah, me too. Perhaps a good place to start is of all those achievements I've just listed there." + }, + { + "start": 33.0, + "end": 37.0, + "text": " Which ones are you most proud of? The broadcasting or the racing?" + }, + { + "start": 37.0, + "end": 43.0, + "text": " Well, that's a very good question to start with. 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people at the end of there they might be mega stars when they're in a racing car but they're just real people and they come over and they engage and they just get stuck in and you know we run a pretty tight ship don't we with our meetings and and the way we go about it and the structure to what we do so it impresses me and I don't know I don't think it matters whether you're in TV or whether you're still driving or not." + }, + { + "start": 2628.48, + "end": 2633.48, + "text": " Whatever it's just a human level have you got some interesting questions and pertinent questions or not." + }, + { + "start": 2633.48, + "end": 2655.48, + "text": " We've got a situation now haven't we with social media where the likes of say Lando Norris can have his own YouTube channel his own Instagram account he can broadcast his own story in his words and make it completely authentically him he doesn't to in a sense do you think he still needs the likes of linear broadcasters like Sky to to have a platform 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assess your situation or download" + }, + { + "start": 728.2, + "end": 732.72, + "text": " the MPB public media app and use the talk to his feature to leave us an audio or video" + }, + { + "start": 732.72, + "end": 733.72, + "text": " message." + }, + { + "start": 733.72, + "end": 738.0400000000001, + "text": " Today, we are talking, we are taking your questions, but between your calls, we're going to talk" + }, + { + "start": 738.0400000000001, + "end": 742.1600000000001, + "text": " about features native to your smartphones that you might not know about." + }, + { + "start": 742.1600000000001, + "end": 746.6, + "text": " So what is, Sabir, when I say these features are native to your smartphone, what do I mean" + }, + { + "start": 746.6, + "end": 747.6, + "text": " by that?" + }, + { + "start": 747.6, + "end": 751.96, + "text": " So when you say that something's native, it means it comes with your phone, right?" + }, + { + "start": 751.96, + "end": 756.6800000000001, + "text": " 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+ }, + { + "start": 1831.48, + "end": 1832.48, + "text": " No such thing." + }, + { + "start": 1832.48, + "end": 1843.0, + "text": " And how do I find the newest, oldest, most appropriate software or what is the term for" + }, + { + "start": 1843.0, + "end": 1845.0, + "text": " operating system?" + }, + { + "start": 1845.0, + "end": 1846.0, + "text": " Operating system." + }, + { + "start": 1846.0, + "end": 1847.0, + "text": " Yeah, that is a great question." + }, + { + "start": 1847.0, + "end": 1848.0, + "text": " That is a great question." + }, + { + "start": 1848.0, + "end": 1853.1200000000001, + "text": " Your best bet would be, and again, you said you had a 2013, but I don't know the model" + }, + { + "start": 1853.1200000000001, + "end": 1854.1200000000001, + "text": " of it." + }, + { + "start": 1854.1200000000001, + "end": 1859.6, + "text": " If you look up the serial number of that device and the product, you can do a Google search" + }, + { + "start": 1859.6, + "end": 1862.44, + "text": " for it to see what that, there's a couple of things." + }, + { + "start": 1862.44, + "end": 1865.28, + "text": " I know I've seen them out there." + }, + { + "start": 1865.28, + "end": 1869.8, + "text": " I'm not, Mac is not my biggest forte, but there are websites that are available that you" + }, + { + "start": 1869.8, + "end": 1875.28, + "text": " can see what your newest, oldest operating system that's available and to be able to" + }, + { + "start": 1875.28, + "end": 1876.68, + "text": " install it on your computer." + }, + { + "start": 1876.68, + "end": 1877.68, + "text": " Yes, ma'am." + }, + { + "start": 1877.68, + "end": 1880.28, + "text": " But there are ways to build it through that." + }, + { + "start": 1880.28, + "end": 1882.28, + "text": " I think there are so much." + }, + { + "start": 1882.28, + "end": 1884.28, + "text": " I love this." + }, + { + "start": 1884.28, + "end": 1885.28, + "text": " I appreciate it." + }, + { + "start": 1885.28, + "end": 1886.28, + "text": " Thank you for calling." + }, + { + "start": 1886.28, + "end": 1889.3200000000002, + "text": " Thank you so much, Kat, for mobile." + }, + { + "start": 1889.32, + "end": 1891.52, + "text": " We're going to stick right here on the phones." + }, + { + "start": 1891.52, + "end": 1895.12, + "text": " Let's go to David and Horn Lake, who has a question about recycling." + }, + { + "start": 1895.12, + "end": 1896.12, + "text": " David, what's going on?" + }, + { + "start": 1896.12, + "end": 1897.12, + "text": " Good morning." + }, + { + "start": 1897.12, + "end": 1899.12, + "text": " Thank you for taking my call." + }, + { + "start": 1899.12, + "end": 1900.12, + "text": " No problem." + }, + { + "start": 1900.12, + "end": 1905.2, + "text": " My walls, public library, and they have a partnership with Heinz Community College and" + }, + { + "start": 1905.2, + "end": 1907.1599999999999, + "text": " the English Library." + }, + { + "start": 1907.1599999999999, + "end": 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"end": 678.0, + "text": " Here we go." + }, + { + "start": 678.0, + "end": 679.0, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 679.0, + "end": 680.0, + "text": " That was all right." + }, + { + "start": 680.0, + "end": 682.0, + "text": " USB-C MIDI controller." + }, + { + "start": 682.0, + "end": 683.0, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 683.0, + "end": 684.0, + "text": " I got this one." + }, + { + "start": 684.0, + "end": 685.02, + "text": " Did you see this?" + }, + { + "start": 685.02, + "end": 686.02, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 686.02, + "end": 687.02, + "text": " I checked that." + }, + { + "start": 687.02, + "end": 688.02, + "text": " I read the script before the show." + }, + { + "start": 688.02, + "end": 689.02, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 689.02, + "end": 690.02, + "text": " Do you want to explain anything?" + }, + { + "start": 690.02, + "end": 692.0, + "text": " Cause I was going to explain it to you to see what you thought." + }, + { + "start": 692.0, + 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1799.88, + "end": 1800.88, + "text": " Oh, that's 100." + }, + { + "start": 1800.88, + "end": 1801.88, + "text": " I know." + }, + { + "start": 1801.88, + "end": 1802.88, + "text": " It's so mad." + }, + { + "start": 1802.88, + "end": 1803.88, + "text": " I miss the F-150." + }, + { + "start": 1803.88, + "end": 1804.88, + "text": " But I was incredible." + }, + { + "start": 1804.88, + "end": 1805.88, + "text": " I'm talking about the Ford Ranger is a pickup truck." + }, + { + "start": 1805.88, + "end": 1806.88, + "text": " The size of a thimble." + }, + { + "start": 1806.88, + "end": 1807.88, + "text": " You can fit it in your wallet." + }, + { + "start": 1807.88, + "end": 1808.88, + "text": " It's so small." + }, + { + "start": 1808.88, + "end": 1809.88, + "text": " Is that what you know?" + }, + { + "start": 1809.88, + "end": 1810.88, + "text": " I miss is what we need." + }, + { + "start": 1810.88, + "end": 1811.88, + "text": " Like it only has two seats." + }, + { + "start": 1811.88, + "end": 1812.88, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1812.88, + "end": 1814.88, + "text": " There are multiple configurations across the 90's." + }, + { + "start": 1814.88, + "end": 1817.88, + "text": " But this thing is cute and puny." + }, + { + "start": 1817.88, + "end": 1819.88, + "text": " Is this not that much?" + }, + { + "start": 1819.88, + "end": 1821.88, + "text": " What is this size compared to a Maverick?" + }, + { + "start": 1821.88, + "end": 1822.88, + "text": " A Maverick." + }, + { + "start": 1822.88, + "end": 1824.88, + "text": " What's my doubt?" + }, + { + "start": 1824.88, + "end": 1826.88, + "text": " America wants big trucks, unfortunately." + }, + { + "start": 1826.88, + "end": 1827.88, + "text": " Yeah, I know." + }, + { + "start": 1827.88, + "end": 1828.88, + "text": " That's why I like the Maverick." + }, + { + "start": 1828.88, + "end": 1831.88, + "text": " There's a trend going towards smaller trucks." + }, + { + "start": 1831.88, + "end": 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}, + { + "start": 1891.88, + "end": 1893.88, + "text": " And to us, it's massive." + }, + { + "start": 1893.88, + "end": 1894.88, + "text": " Yeah, it's massive." + }, + { + "start": 1894.88, + "end": 1896.88, + "text": " That is the normal size truck." + }, + { + "start": 1896.88, + "end": 1898.88, + "text": " There are larger trucks and smaller trucks." + }, + { + "start": 1898.88, + "end": 1901.88, + "text": " The Rivian is definitely smaller and there are bigger trucks." + }, + { + "start": 1901.88, + "end": 1903.88, + "text": " There are hummers and silverados and others." + }, + { + "start": 1903.88, + "end": 1906.88, + "text": " The Maverick and Santa Cruz are significantly smaller than the Rivian though." + }, + { + "start": 1906.88, + "end": 1911.88, + "text": " What is significantly in big size or just like full size?" + }, + { + "start": 1911.88, + "end": 1912.88, + "text": " I don't know if that's the difference." + }, + { + "start": 1912.88, + "end": 1913.88, + "text": " I 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like a little bit of a disc golf but..." + }, + { + "start": 2110.88, + "end": 2111.88, + "text": " Swoop." + }, + { + "start": 2111.88, + "end": 2112.88, + "text": " Now we've got..." + }, + { + "start": 2112.88, + "end": 2113.88, + "text": " I think it's auto-playing." + }, + { + "start": 2113.88, + "end": 2114.88, + "text": " I don't know who this is." + }, + { + "start": 2114.88, + "end": 2115.88, + "text": " I just got hit in." + }, + { + "start": 2115.88, + "end": 2117.88, + "text": " Swoop, hang in here the way..." + }, + { + "start": 2117.88, + "end": 2118.88, + "text": " Let's see." + }, + { + "start": 2118.88, + "end": 2120.88, + "text": " Joe is hungry, best channel on YouTube." + }, + { + "start": 2120.88, + "end": 2123.88, + "text": " You know, it's not really the best channel on YouTube." + }, + { + "start": 2123.88, + "end": 2124.7200000000003, + "text": " These are not random." + }, + { + "start": 2124.7200000000003, + "end": 2125.56, + "text": " These are related 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2163.96, + "end": 2165.32, + "text": " I know they're listening." + }, + { + "start": 2165.32, + "end": 2166.56, + "text": " Engagement spiking." + }, + { + "start": 2166.56, + "end": 2168.16, + "text": " Oh, man." + }, + { + "start": 2168.16, + "end": 2171.32, + "text": " Can I throw out my why I don't think this is that bad?" + }, + { + "start": 2171.32, + "end": 2172.32, + "text": " Okay, sure." + }, + { + "start": 2172.32, + "end": 2174.96, + "text": " Why I hate it and why I don't think it's that bad." + }, + { + "start": 2174.96, + "end": 2175.8, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 2175.8, + "end": 2178.6000000000004, + "text": " Normally, if you're in full screen, the best way to get to" + }, + { + "start": 2178.6000000000004, + "end": 2181.2000000000003, + "text": " another recommended video is you either have to get all the way" + }, + { + "start": 2181.2000000000003, + "end": 2182.8, + "text": " to the end cards, but let's be real." + }, + { + "start": 2182.8, + "end": 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this was a thing and I've randomly swiped away" + }, + { + "start": 2206.56, + "end": 2209.12, + "text": " in a video I'm actually watching because I like," + }, + { + "start": 2209.12, + "end": 2211.2799999999997, + "text": " I try and swipe down for a notification." + }, + { + "start": 2211.2799999999997, + "end": 2212.36, + "text": " I do that all the time." + }, + { + "start": 2212.36, + "end": 2214.72, + "text": " I'm like, I saw a notification in full screen" + }, + { + "start": 2214.72, + "end": 2217.4, + "text": " and I try and just swipe down the top to get to my notifications." + }, + { + "start": 2217.4, + "end": 2219.64, + "text": " And I swipe into a video and I've lost my place." + }, + { + "start": 2219.64, + "end": 2221.68, + "text": " So if you swipe down it also," + }, + { + "start": 2221.68, + "end": 2223.16, + "text": " either way, there's a different video." + }, + { + "start": 2223.16, + "end": 2224.24, + "text": " Up or down, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2224.24, + 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" Like it's got Thunderbolt 5." + }, + { + "start": 3643.92, + "end": 3644.92, + "text": " It's future proof." + }, + { + "start": 3644.92, + "end": 3645.92, + "text": " I think this might be the one." + }, + { + "start": 3645.92, + "end": 3646.92, + "text": " I don't need it." + }, + { + "start": 3646.92, + "end": 3648.92, + "text": " I maybe I should get it." + }, + { + "start": 3648.92, + "end": 3650.92, + "text": " Final Cut Pro updates come out." + }, + { + "start": 3650.92, + "end": 3652.92, + "text": " Really, really solid updates." + }, + { + "start": 3652.92, + "end": 3656.92, + "text": " I think some of us saw this coming because there are some sort of teasers in the keynote." + }, + { + "start": 3656.92, + "end": 3658.92, + "text": " But it's Final Cut Pro 11." + }, + { + "start": 3658.92, + "end": 3662.92, + "text": " And the main new feature is called Magnetic Mask." + }, + { + "start": 3662.92, + "end": 3668.92, + "text": " If anyone's been editing videos for more than a 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" I think I now have to get the M4." + }, + { + "start": 3819.92, + "end": 3825.92, + "text": " Do you think that this is a big enough upgrade for them to warrant the entire version change?" + }, + { + "start": 3825.92, + "end": 3830.92, + "text": " I think the amount of upgrades required to warrant a version change." + }, + { + "start": 3830.92, + "end": 3831.92, + "text": " You get smaller every year." + }, + { + "start": 3831.92, + "end": 3832.92, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3832.92, + "end": 3838.92, + "text": " In the same way that Android gets a bunch of tiny upgrades and they're like, it's Android 15." + }, + { + "start": 3838.92, + "end": 3841.92, + "text": " But Final Cut Pro 10 has been around forever." + }, + { + "start": 3841.92, + "end": 3842.92, + "text": " So long." + }, + { + "start": 3842.92, + "end": 3843.92, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3843.92, + "end": 3847.92, + "text": " That I feel like you would need sort of like a visual refresh and or it's yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3847.92, + "end": 3849.92, + "text": " It's been like 15 years, hasn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 3849.92, + "end": 3850.92, + "text": " It's so long." + }, + { + "start": 3850.92, + "end": 3851.92, + "text": " Final Cut is very old." + }, + { + "start": 3851.92, + "end": 3860.92, + "text": " I would say that you could argue that this new advent of AI features is a good enough inflection point to warrant a new number." + }, + { + "start": 3861.92, + "end": 3863.92, + "text": " I think there's going to be more AI features in the future." + }, + { + "start": 3863.92, + "end": 3869.92, + "text": " And I think this is the first new AI features and you can go, all right, 11 for this." + }, + { + "start": 3869.92, + "end": 3872.92, + "text": " A trivia Adam and Ellis, when did Final Cut Pro 10?" + }, + { + "start": 3872.92, + "end": 3873.92, + "text": " 2011." + }, + { + "start": 3873.92, + "end": 3875.92, + "text": " They looked it up too." + }, + { + "start": 3875.92, + "end": 3876.92, + "text": " We all looked it up." + }, + { + "start": 3876.92, + "end": 3877.92, + "text": " Yeah, 21st 2011." + }, + { + "start": 3877.92, + "end": 3878.92, + "text": " Yeah, it's been up for 13th." + }, + { + "start": 3878.92, + "end": 3879.92, + "text": " Okay, new trivia question." + }, + { + "start": 3879.92, + "end": 3881.92, + "text": " When did Final Cut come out?" + }, + { + "start": 3881.92, + "end": 3882.92, + "text": " I know this." + }, + { + "start": 3882.92, + "end": 3883.92, + "text": " Don't look it up." + }, + { + "start": 3883.92, + "end": 3884.92, + "text": " When do you think it came out?" + }, + { + "start": 3884.92, + "end": 3885.92, + "text": " It came out." + }, + { + "start": 3885.92, + "end": 3886.92, + "text": " I know this." + }, + { + "start": 3886.92, + "end": 3887.92, + "text": " It came out after." + }, + { + "start": 3887.92, + "end": 3890.92, + "text": " Hold on, hold on, hold on." + }, + { + "start": 3890.92, + "end": 3900.92, + "text": " Okay, wait, are you talking about when did Final Cut come out or when did Apple, when did Final Cut, Apple's first published because it was a thing before Apple purchased it." + }, + { + "start": 3900.92, + "end": 3905.92, + "text": " It was a yes, I would say when it was Apple's Final Cut." + }, + { + "start": 3905.92, + "end": 3910.92, + "text": " Okay, Apple's Final Cut came out in 2000." + }, + { + "start": 3910.92, + "end": 3911.92, + "text": " Nope." + }, + { + "start": 3911.92, + "end": 3913.92, + "text": " In 98." + }, + { + "start": 3913.92, + "end": 3914.92, + "text": " 99." + }, + { + "start": 3914.92, + "end": 3915.92, + "text": " Yes, 1999." + }, + { + "start": 3915.92, + "end": 3916.92, + "text": " Close." + }, + { + "start": 3916.92, + "end": 3917.92, + "text": " It's been 25 years." + }, + { + "start": 3917.92, + "end": 3918.92, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3918.92, + "end": 3923.92, + "text": " Oh, they did, they developed, okay, they 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"text": " It would be so difficult." + }, + { + "start": 3965.92, + "end": 3966.92, + "text": " I'm sure it's possible." + }, + { + "start": 3966.92, + "end": 3968.92, + "text": " They have it on iPad Mini as well now." + }, + { + "start": 3968.92, + "end": 3969.92, + "text": " Oh my God." + }, + { + "start": 3969.92, + "end": 3970.92, + "text": " I wouldn't do it on iPad Mini." + }, + { + "start": 3970.92, + "end": 3971.92, + "text": " I know my self-satisfaction." + }, + { + "start": 3971.92, + "end": 3974.92, + "text": " Of what Final Cut Pro looks like on iPad Mini, it's very funny." + }, + { + "start": 3974.92, + "end": 3975.92, + "text": " It's very funny." + }, + { + "start": 3975.92, + "end": 3976.92, + "text": " It's really funny." + }, + { + "start": 3976.92, + "end": 3979.92, + "text": " There's new Logic Pro improvements as well." + }, + { + "start": 3979.92, + "end": 3984.92, + "text": " Ellis might find interesting that the Quantech Room Simulator is coming as a free 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"text": " Great." + }, + { + "start": 4008.92, + "end": 4009.92, + "text": " And live-let viewing on it." + }, + { + "start": 4009.92, + "end": 4014.92, + "text": " Live-let previews, 4K 120 from the iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max." + }, + { + "start": 4014.92, + "end": 4015.92, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 4015.92, + "end": 4018.92, + "text": " But yeah, I'm excited to try Final Cut Pro 11." + }, + { + "start": 4018.92, + "end": 4024.92, + "text": " And it may be the reason that I upgrade this laptop, and I'm very curious to play with magnetic" + }, + { + "start": 4024.92, + "end": 4025.92, + "text": " mask." + }, + { + "start": 4026.92, + "end": 4029.92, + "text": " You think it's for using the new neural engine?" + }, + { + "start": 4029.92, + "end": 4030.92, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 4030.92, + "end": 4032.92, + "text": " There's no confirmation that it has to be on." + }, + { + "start": 4032.92, + "end": 4033.92, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 4033.92, + 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"text": " If it's four times as fast on this laptop, that's worth it." + }, + { + "start": 4094.3599999999997, + "end": 4096.2, + "text": " So yeah, cool." + }, + { + "start": 4096.2, + "end": 4097.48, + "text": " That's the last headline." + }, + { + "start": 4097.48, + "end": 4098.48, + "text": " It is." + }, + { + "start": 4098.48, + "end": 4100.08, + "text": " We have one more thing in the hat though." + }, + { + "start": 4100.08, + "end": 4101.5599999999995, + "text": " It is kind of in the hands." + }, + { + "start": 4101.5599999999995, + "end": 4102.5599999999995, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 4102.5599999999995, + "end": 4103.88, + "text": " Is it something I don't want to, because it's someone's birthday?" + }, + { + "start": 4103.88, + "end": 4108.2, + "text": " It is a piece of fan art that we got sent." + }, + { + "start": 4108.2, + "end": 4109.2, + "text": " There's really awesome." + }, + { + "start": 4109.2, + "end": 4110.2, + "text": " I think we all shared this." + }, + { + "start": 4110.2, + "end": 4112.2, + "text": " But we haven't shown it on the pod yet." + }, + { + "start": 4112.2, + "end": 4117.76, + "text": " But someone made waveform podcast fan art with a bunch of different sayings and all of" + }, + { + "start": 4117.76, + "end": 4118.76, + "text": " us with our sayings." + }, + { + "start": 4118.76, + "end": 4119.76, + "text": " What are the different ones?" + }, + { + "start": 4119.76, + "end": 4121.5199999999995, + "text": " Yeah, what are the different ones?" + }, + { + "start": 4121.5199999999995, + "end": 4125.92, + "text": " I just noticed I'm sitting in exactly the same position that it's me." + }, + { + "start": 4125.92, + "end": 4126.92, + "text": " It's me." + }, + { + "start": 4126.92, + "end": 4132.2, + "text": " So it says, Ellis is saying the great state of California nailed it." + }, + { + "start": 4132.2, + "end": 4137.5599999999995, + "text": " Adam saying, Triad, dude, I'm saying, David is saying bad." + }, + { + "start": 4137.5599999999995, + "end": 4138.5599999999995, + "text": " No, don't do that." + }, + { + "start": 4138.5599999999995, + "end": 4140.04, + "text": " Did you say that or did Ellis say that?" + }, + { + "start": 4140.04, + "end": 4141.04, + "text": " That was you." + }, + { + "start": 4141.04, + "end": 4142.04, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4142.04, + "end": 4145.48, + "text": " I like my dominoes and I like my pizza." + }, + { + "start": 4145.48, + "end": 4148.84, + "text": " No, no, it's yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4148.84, + "end": 4151.16, + "text": " And then Mark has a saying, you can do what you want kids." + }, + { + "start": 4151.16, + "end": 4152.48, + "text": " You can do anything." + }, + { + "start": 4152.48, + "end": 4155.6, + "text": " There's also some other bingo." + }, + { + "start": 4155.6, + "end": 4156.6, + "text": " Let's go." + }, + { + "start": 4156.6, + "end": 4158.96, + "text": " It's a future, not a bug." + }, + { + "start": 4158.96, + "end": 4161.48, + "text": " When did we say I can floss my teeth with 16 gigs of brown?" + }, + { + "start": 4161.48, + "end": 4162.48, + "text": " Only a few weeks ago." + }, + { + "start": 4162.48, + "end": 4163.48, + "text": " I said that." + }, + { + "start": 4163.48, + "end": 4164.48, + "text": " There are, then." + }, + { + "start": 4164.48, + "end": 4165.48, + "text": " Yeah, there are." + }, + { + "start": 4165.48, + "end": 4166.48, + "text": " That's good." + }, + { + "start": 4166.48, + "end": 4167.48, + "text": " This is wonderful." + }, + { + "start": 4167.48, + "end": 4168.48, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4168.48, + "end": 4169.48, + "text": " Very, very cool piece of fan art." + }, + { + "start": 4169.48, + "end": 4170.48, + "text": " Thank you very much for sending us." + }, + { + "start": 4170.48, + "end": 4171.48, + "text": " We do." + }, + { + "start": 4171.48, + "end": 4172.48, + "text": " We do." + }, + { + "start": 4172.48, + "end": 4173.48, + "text": " It turns out maybe too many, maybe too many." + }, + { + "start": 4173.48, + "end": 4175.48, + "text": " Or maybe not enough, maybe not enough." + }, + { + "start": 4175.48, + "end": 4177.12, + "text": " We're going to need a bigger piece of paper." + }, + { + "start": 4177.12, + "end": 4179.36, + "text": " Yeah, we're going to we're going to print it out big and hang it up somewhere." + }, + { + "start": 4179.36, + "end": 4184.4, + "text": " And just if you are, if you who made this are listening, please do not stop making stuff" + }, + { + "start": 4184.4, + "end": 4186.599999999999, + "text": " because you're really very good at it." + }, + { + "start": 4186.599999999999, + "end": 4187.599999999999, + "text": " Extremely talented." + }, + { + "start": 4187.599999999999, + "end": 4188.599999999999, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4188.599999999999, + "end": 4192.48, + "text": " I feel like a lot of the first things we all made were like fan art or something." + }, + { + 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"end": 4216.4400000000005, + "text": " Mark Hezen, David, tied with 23 a piece." + }, + { + "start": 4216.4400000000005, + "end": 4219.2, + "text": " Andrew running away with it with 27." + }, + { + "start": 4219.2, + "end": 4220.2, + "text": " Whoa." + }, + { + "start": 4220.2, + "end": 4221.2, + "text": " Oh, yes." + }, + { + "start": 4221.2, + "end": 4222.2, + "text": " Let's go." + }, + { + "start": 4222.2, + "end": 4225.2, + "text": " I hope that extra trivia extra against like completely messes this up." + }, + { + "start": 4225.2, + "end": 4226.2, + "text": " Oh, it will." + }, + { + "start": 4226.2, + "end": 4227.2, + "text": " Don't you worry." + }, + { + "start": 4227.2, + "end": 4228.2, + "text": " It will be good." + }, + { + "start": 4228.2, + "end": 4229.2, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 4229.2, + "end": 4236.04, + "text": " So the first question, MIDI has velocity that has a range from zero to what number?" + }, + { + "start": 4236.04, + "end": 4237.88, + "text": " Oh, okay." + }, + { + "start": 4237.88, + "end": 4239.679999999999, + "text": " This might be a hint." + }, + { + "start": 4239.679999999999, + "end": 4244.0, + "text": " It might not be, but actually all parameters in MIDI are constrained." + }, + { + "start": 4244.0, + "end": 4246.0, + "text": " This doesn't work." + }, + { + "start": 4246.0, + "end": 4247.0, + "text": " This doesn't work." + }, + { + "start": 4247.0, + "end": 4253.4, + "text": " Specifically because it is the maximum bit depth possible in a MIDI word." + }, + { + "start": 4253.4, + "end": 4254.4, + "text": " Madagascar." + }, + { + "start": 4254.4, + "end": 4256.4, + "text": " Madagascar 3." + }, + { + "start": 4256.4, + "end": 4259.36, + "text": " Madagascar escape to Africa." + }, + { + "start": 4259.36, + "end": 4261.16, + "text": " The Madagascar ring." + }, + { + "start": 4261.16, + "end": 4263.839999999999, + "text": " Are these now just things that Hans Zimmer has scored?" + }, + { + "start": 4263.839999999999, + "end": 4264.839999999999, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 4264.839999999999, + "end": 4266.839999999999, + "text": " Flip him in, Reed." + }, + { + "start": 4266.839999999999, + "end": 4267.839999999999, + "text": " What do we got?" + }, + { + "start": 4267.839999999999, + "end": 4268.839999999999, + "text": " Oh, David." + }, + { + "start": 4268.839999999999, + "end": 4272.839999999999, + "text": " What are the cooking right now?" + }, + { + "start": 4272.839999999999, + "end": 4273.839999999999, + "text": " Everyone has a different answer." + }, + { + "start": 4273.839999999999, + "end": 4274.839999999999, + "text": " David, what's yours?" + }, + { + "start": 4274.839999999999, + "end": 4275.839999999999, + "text": " I put 128." + }, + { + "start": 4275.839999999999, + "end": 4276.839999999999, + "text": " I put 1,000." + }, + { + "start": 4276.839999999999, + "end": 4277.839999999999, + "text": " I put 255." + }, + { + "start": 4277.839999999999, + "end": 4281.679999999999, + "text": " David, we got to talk about your answer." + }, + { + "start": 4281.679999999999, + "end": 4282.679999999999, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4282.679999999999, + "end": 4283.679999999999, + "text": " David, we got to talk about your answer." + }, + { + "start": 4283.679999999999, + "end": 4285.48, + "text": " I'm not a musician." + }, + { + "start": 4285.48, + "end": 4287.639999999999, + "text": " You are a computer person." + }, + { + "start": 4287.639999999999, + "end": 4288.639999999999, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 4288.639999999999, + "end": 4291.16, + "text": " So why did you pick 128?" + }, + { + "start": 4291.16, + "end": 4293.16, + "text": " Because it's half of 256." + }, + { + "start": 4293.16, + "end": 4294.16, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 4294.16, + "end": 4295.16, + "text": " Okay, never mind." + }, + { + "start": 4295.16, + "end": 4296.639999999999, + "text": " I guess we don't have to talk about your answer." + }, 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{ + "start": 4312.0, + "end": 4313.0, + "text": " Sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4313.0, + "end": 4314.0, + "text": " Not a kill by." + }, + { + "start": 4314.0, + "end": 4315.0, + "text": " So." + }, + { + "start": 4315.08, + "end": 4316.08, + "text": " There are." + }, + { + "start": 4316.08, + "end": 4322.72, + "text": " So David, midi is seven bits, meaning that the maximum value" + }, + { + "start": 4322.72, + "end": 4324.48, + "text": " described by a seven-bit." + }, + { + "start": 4324.48, + "end": 4326.88, + "text": " Now, how many discrete values are there in a 17 number?" + }, + { + "start": 4326.88, + "end": 4327.88, + "text": " Two is seventh." + }, + { + "start": 4327.88, + "end": 4329.16, + "text": " Well, I'm waiting for you to." + }, + { + "start": 4329.16, + "end": 4330.16, + "text": " Seven bits." + }, + { + "start": 4330.16, + "end": 4331.0, + "text": " 16." + }, + { + "start": 4331.0, + "end": 4332.0, + "text": " A lot." + }, + { + "start": 4332.0, + "end": 4333.0, + "text": " Four." + }, + { + "start": 4333.0, + "end": 4334.0, + "text": " 128." + }, + { + "start": 4334.0, + "end": 4335.0, + "text": " In seven bits." + }, + { + "start": 4335.0, + "end": 4336.0, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4336.0, + "end": 4337.0, + "text": " 127." + }, + { + "start": 4337.0, + "end": 4339.0, + "text": " Wait, there's 128 discrete values possible." + }, + { + "start": 4339.0, + "end": 4342.44, + "text": " But like you said, zero is a value, meaning 127." + }, + { + "start": 4342.44, + "end": 4343.44, + "text": " Dang, man." + }, + { + "start": 4343.44, + "end": 4344.44, + "text": " Is the correct answer." + }, + { + "start": 4344.44, + "end": 4346.36, + "text": " 6 but zero is a value." + }, + { + "start": 4346.36, + "end": 4349.919999999999, + "text": " No, 128 discrete values in a seven-bit number." + }, + { + "start": 4349.919999999999, + "end": 4355.679999999999, + "text": " But zero is one of those values, meaning that 127 is the maximum." + }, + { + 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+ "end": 4390.16, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 4390.16, + "end": 4392.16, + "text": " I'm going to name four cars." + }, + { + "start": 4392.16, + "end": 4397.88, + "text": " And you have to tell me which one is fake or if they're all real." + }, + { + "start": 4397.88, + "end": 4400.4, + "text": " The Renault Le Carr." + }, + { + "start": 4400.4, + "end": 4401.4, + "text": " Le Carr." + }, + { + "start": 4401.4, + "end": 4403.04, + "text": " Le Carr." + }, + { + "start": 4403.04, + "end": 4406.32, + "text": " The AMC Gremlin." + }, + { + "start": 4406.32, + "end": 4408.6, + "text": " The AMC Gremlin." + }, + { + "start": 4408.6, + "end": 4412.32, + "text": " The Isuzu Mysterious Utility Wizard." + }, + { + "start": 4412.32, + "end": 4415.16, + "text": " Also called the Honda Passport." + }, + { + "start": 4415.16, + "end": 4417.28, + "text": " The Subaru Brat." + }, + { + "start": 4417.28, + "end": 4418.28, + "text": " Sorry." + }, + { + "start": 4418.28, + "end": 4423.48, + 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+ "start": 4442.84, + "end": 4444.84, + "text": " I didn't make any of those up." + }, + { + "start": 4444.84, + "end": 4445.84, + "text": " Wow." + }, + { + "start": 4445.84, + "end": 4446.84, + "text": " I know the brat." + }, + { + "start": 4446.84, + "end": 4447.84, + "text": " It's not all real." + }, + { + "start": 4447.84, + "end": 4448.84, + "text": " I was either between..." + }, + { + "start": 4448.84, + "end": 4455.64, + "text": " Now I'm doing the eye almost, do this thing, but I don't expect you to say Renault like" + }, + { + "start": 4455.64, + "end": 4456.64, + "text": " that unless you..." + }, + { + "start": 4456.64, + "end": 4457.64, + "text": " You know the brat." + }, + { + "start": 4457.64, + "end": 4460.12, + "text": " Unless you didn't create it because that's why you pronounce it." + }, + { + "start": 4460.12, + "end": 4461.6, + "text": " I know the brat is real." + }, + { + "start": 4461.6, + "end": 4462.6, + "text": " The brat is so sick." + }, + { + "start": 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They are Nikki and Sammy." + }, + { + "start": 46.2, + "end": 48.2, + "text": " I mean, you followed them from way back, right?" + }, + { + "start": 48.2, + "end": 50.2, + "text": " Of course I do. They're YouTubers, Eli." + }, + { + "start": 50.2, + "end": 51.8, + "text": " Vloggers, if you will." + }, + { + "start": 51.8, + "end": 53.599999999999994, + "text": " And they've just started a new podcast," + }, + { + "start": 53.599999999999994, + "end": 56.4, + "text": " which also goes out at three in the morning on Radio 1." + }, + { + "start": 56.8, + "end": 60.0, + "text": " So this podcast gets pretty niche." + }, + { + "start": 60.0, + "end": 62.4, + "text": " They talk a lot about K-pop." + }, + { + "start": 62.4, + "end": 64.0, + "text": " You're familiar with K-pop." + }, + { + "start": 64.0, + "end": 65.0, + "text": " I am. 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"text": " Dun, dun, dun." + }, + { + "start": 994.4, + "end": 997.4, + "text": " About BTS and his plans and original music with BTS." + }, + { + "start": 997.4, + "end": 999.4, + "text": " Oh yeah, there's some stuff in there." + }, + { + "start": 999.4, + "end": 1000.4, + "text": " You're going to be very happy." + }, + { + "start": 1000.4, + "end": 1001.4, + "text": " Okay, wait a minute." + }, + { + "start": 1001.4, + "end": 1002.4, + "text": " More than likely, Radio One will be playing it." + }, + { + "start": 1002.4, + "end": 1003.4, + "text": " So you're going to find out first." + }, + { + "start": 1003.4, + "end": 1005.4, + "text": " All right, I don't have to do the dance." + }, + { + "start": 1005.4, + "end": 1007.4, + "text": " And you've got to do the dance every time." + }, + { + "start": 1007.4, + "end": 1011.4, + "text": " You can put the camera on in the Radio One studio and just do the dance." + }, + { + "start": 1011.4, + "end": 1012.4, + "text": " I need to sit it 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}, + { + "start": 1052.4, + "end": 1054.4, + "text": " And you're like, I've got I'm going to get four hour sleep." + }, + { + "start": 1054.4, + "end": 1057.4, + "text": " I'm not going to have a saggy face all day." + }, + { + "start": 1057.4, + "end": 1058.4, + "text": " I get that." + }, + { + "start": 1058.4, + "end": 1059.4, + "text": " Thanks for trolling my life, guys." + }, + { + "start": 1059.4, + "end": 1060.4, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1060.4, + "end": 1062.4, + "text": " So no hot feelings." + }, + { + "start": 1062.4, + "end": 1063.4, + "text": " Anyway, I'm moving on." + }, + { + "start": 1063.4, + "end": 1064.4, + "text": " I can't face." + }, + { + "start": 1064.4, + "end": 1065.4, + "text": " Anyway." + }, + { + "start": 1065.4, + "end": 1069.4, + "text": " So, we're here with a saggy face show at four o'clock every morning." + }, + { + "start": 1069.4, + "end": 1071.4, + "text": " Adele, flat pink." + }, + { + "start": 1071.4, + "end": 1073.4, + "text": " Do you think you're going to I haven't even played you any of their music." + }, + { + "start": 1073.4, + "end": 1074.4, + "text": " You're not going to know it now." + }, + { + "start": 1074.4, + "end": 1077.4, + "text": " It's quite interesting, actually, to ask you because you obviously won't self-crit." + }, + { + "start": 1077.4, + "end": 1081.4, + "text": " So have you how prolific were other bands where you were aware of when you were there?" + }, + { + "start": 1081.4, + "end": 1084.4, + "text": " Because obviously you're going in kind of a BTS angle because that's your way in." + }, + { + "start": 1084.4, + "end": 1085.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1085.4, + "end": 1086.4, + "text": " So was you aware of other stuff while you were there?" + }, + { + "start": 1086.4, + "end": 1088.4, + "text": " Was you made more aware while you were still there?" + }, + { + "start": 1088.4, + "end": 1092.4, + "text": " Yeah, girls' generation, exo, that you guys support a lot." + 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"end": 1181.4, + "text": " It's not really this game." + }, + { + "start": 1181.4, + "end": 1184.4, + "text": " It's just like, we're going to show you some Korean pop culture words." + }, + { + "start": 1184.4, + "end": 1185.4, + "text": " And we want you to guess what they mean." + }, + { + "start": 1185.4, + "end": 1186.4, + "text": " Oh, great." + }, + { + "start": 1186.4, + "end": 1188.4, + "text": " We, I've actually got me a semi hasn't seen them." + }, + { + "start": 1188.4, + "end": 1189.4, + "text": " So I'm going to test you both." + }, + { + "start": 1189.4, + "end": 1190.4, + "text": " Oh, okay." + }, + { + "start": 1190.4, + "end": 1191.4, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 1191.4, + "end": 1192.4, + "text": " I'm going to jump in on this." + }, + { + "start": 1192.4, + "end": 1193.4, + "text": " Yeah. 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Right." + }, + { + "start": 1220.4, + "end": 1221.4, + "text": " An eye smile." + }, + { + "start": 1221.4, + "end": 1222.4, + "text": " I think this one's quite easy." + }, + { + "start": 1222.4, + "end": 1223.4, + "text": " Eye smile." + }, + { + "start": 1223.4, + "end": 1224.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1224.4, + "end": 1225.4, + "text": " Oh, is it when you smile?" + }, + { + "start": 1225.4, + "end": 1226.4, + "text": " Yeah, smiling, tiredness." + }, + { + "start": 1226.4, + "end": 1227.4, + "text": " Yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1227.4, + "end": 1228.4, + "text": " Yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1228.4, + "end": 1229.4, + "text": " Yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1229.4, + "end": 1230.4, + "text": " It's like, well, smile." + }, + { + "start": 1230.4, + "end": 1232.4, + "text": " Eye smells, with eye smells often look happiest and fans adore them when they sport them." + }, + { + "start": 1232.4, + "end": 1233.4, + "text": " I'm really getting faking to 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"text": " What the hell?" + }, + { + "start": 1274.4, + "end": 1275.4, + "text": " Do you have anything like that?" + }, + { + "start": 1275.4, + "end": 1277.4, + "text": " We don't have a saying like that, do we?" + }, + { + "start": 1277.4, + "end": 1278.4, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 1278.4, + "end": 1279.4, + "text": " Bagel girl." + }, + { + "start": 1279.4, + "end": 1283.4, + "text": " I am thinking of the doboy from Ghostbusters though, like, Michelin Man." + }, + { + "start": 1283.4, + "end": 1284.4, + "text": " You know, like, baby-ish." + }, + { + "start": 1284.4, + "end": 1285.4, + "text": " Do you know what I mean?" + }, + { + "start": 1285.4, + "end": 1286.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1286.4, + "end": 1287.4, + "text": " He's not the Michelin Man." + }, + { + "start": 1287.4, + "end": 1289.4, + "text": " So, curvacious but looks really young." + }, + { + "start": 1289.4, + "end": 1290.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1290.4, + "end": 1291.4, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1291.4, + "end": 1292.4, + "text": " It's got a worrying combination, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 1292.4, + "end": 1294.4, + "text": " She looks like a baby, but." + }, + { + "start": 1294.4, + "end": 1295.4, + "text": " Sorry, glass." + }, + { + "start": 1295.4, + "end": 1296.4, + "text": " Just red." + }, + { + "start": 1296.4, + "end": 1299.4, + "text": " Just red the description for the next one." + }, + { + "start": 1299.4, + "end": 1301.4, + "text": " And if you don't laugh, this is like the..." + }, + { + "start": 1301.4, + "end": 1302.4, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1302.4, + "end": 1304.4, + "text": " It's called chocolate abs." + }, + { + "start": 1304.4, + "end": 1306.4, + "text": " Chocolate abs." + }, + { + "start": 1306.4, + "end": 1307.4, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 1307.4, + "end": 1308.4, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1308.4, + "end": 1309.4, + "text": " Is this someone that's like shredded?" + }, + { + "start": 1309.4, + "end": 1310.4, + "text": " I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 1310.4, + "end": 1311.4, + "text": " Go on, just give a guess." + }, + { + "start": 1311.4, + "end": 1313.4, + "text": " Someone called Abby." + }, + { + "start": 1313.4, + "end": 1314.4, + "text": " Right, chocolate." + }, + { + "start": 1314.4, + "end": 1317.4, + "text": " This is like..." + }, + { + "start": 1317.4, + "end": 1318.4, + "text": " Chocolate abs just came in the room." + }, + { + "start": 1318.4, + "end": 1320.4, + "text": " I can tell that this has been coffee aircon on." + }, + { + "start": 1320.4, + "end": 1324.4, + "text": " This has been copied and pasted from like a fan website." + }, + { + "start": 1325.4, + "end": 1328.4, + "text": " It's got to be, it's the hot, delicious abs of a man." + }, + { + "start": 1328.4, + "end": 1331.4, + "text": " So not chocolate abs." + }, + { + "start": 1331.4, + "end": 1334.4, + "text": " Oh, there's chocolate abs." + }, + { + "start": 1334.4, + "end": 1338.4, + "text": " It's like someone's nickname for me standards." + }, + { + "start": 1338.4, + "end": 1339.4, + "text": " Chocolate abs." + }, + { + "start": 1339.4, + "end": 1342.4, + "text": " On the market selling stuff." + }, + { + "start": 1342.4, + "end": 1345.4, + "text": " It's that Zoom as a fire app." + }, + { + "start": 1345.4, + "end": 1347.4, + "text": " Chocolate abs." + }, + { + "start": 1347.4, + "end": 1348.4, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1348.4, + "end": 1349.4, + "text": " And last one." + }, + { + "start": 1349.4, + "end": 1350.4, + "text": " V-line." + }, + { + "start": 1350.4, + "end": 1351.4, + "text": " Oh, interesting." + }, + { + "start": 1351.4, + "end": 1353.4, + "text": " This is a bit normal to..." + }, + { + "start": 1353.4, + "end": 1355.4, + "text": " This is not what you think it means." + }, + { + "start": 1355.4, + "end": 1357.4, + "text": " Well, I thought it's the face, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 1357.4, + "end": 1359.4, + "text": " Like the very attractive thing is to have a V-face." + }, + { + "start": 1359.4, + "end": 1360.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1360.4, + "end": 1362.4, + "text": " Not what I thought of when I read V-line." + }, + { + "start": 1362.4, + "end": 1364.4, + "text": " V-line is the shape versus jaw." + }, + { + "start": 1364.4, + "end": 1367.4, + "text": " A narrow jawline that forms a V is considered to be a V-line." + }, + { + "start": 1367.4, + "end": 1369.4, + "text": " I'm putting my bagel face back." + }, + { + "start": 1369.4, + "end": 1370.4, + "text": " Is that what I'm saying?" + }, + { + "start": 1370.4, + "end": 1371.4, + "text": " Bagel girl." + }, + { + "start": 1371.4, + "end": 1372.4, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 1372.4, + "end": 1373.4, + "text": " I don't know how we did on that." + }, + { + "start": 1373.4, + "end": 1374.4, + "text": " I think we did really bad." + }, + { + "start": 1374.4, + "end": 1375.4, + "text": " I think you got one." + }, + { + "start": 1375.4, + "end": 1377.4, + "text": " We're now going to move on." + }, + { + "start": 1377.4, + "end": 1378.4, + "text": " I'm going to move on." + }, + { + "start": 1378.4, + "end": 1379.4, + "text": " I'm going to move on." + }, + { + "start": 1379.4, + "end": 1380.4, + "text": " I'm going to keep track." + }, + { + "start": 1380.4, + "end": 1381.4, + "text": " I think you got one." + }, + { + "start": 1381.4, + "end": 1382.4, + "text": " We're now going to move on to..." + }, + { + "start": 1382.4, + "end": 1383.4, + "text": " I'm actually looking forward to this quite a lot." + }, + { + "start": 1383.4, + "end": 1385.4, + "text": " Description friction." + }, + { + "start": 1385.4, + "end": 1388.4, + "text": " Description friction." + }, + { + "start": 1388.4, + "end": 1390.4, + "text": " Have you heard of ASMR?" + }, + { + "start": 1390.4, + "end": 1391.4, + "text": " No, I'm not sure." + }, + { + "start": 1391.4, + "end": 1392.4, + "text": " I think 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"text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 1415.4, + "end": 1416.4, + "text": " You seem it." + }, + { + "start": 1416.4, + "end": 1417.4, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1417.4, + "end": 1418.4, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 1418.4, + "end": 1419.4, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 1419.4, + "end": 1420.4, + "text": " I think I have slime on Instagram." + }, + { + "start": 1420.4, + "end": 1421.4, + "text": " You know, you've seen those things." + }, + { + "start": 1421.4, + "end": 1422.4, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 1422.4, + "end": 1423.4, + "text": " So we've..." + }, + { + "start": 1423.4, + "end": 1425.4, + "text": " A game off of that, obviously, because being from the YouTube world, we kind of have this..." + }, + { + "start": 1425.4, + "end": 1428.4, + "text": " We're aware of what ASMR is and we thought we'd make it a fun game." + }, + { + "start": 1428.4, + "end": 1432.4, + "text": " So basically, we're going to play you some sounds and you 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1453.4, + "end": 1454.4, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1454.4, + "end": 1455.4, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1455.4, + "end": 1456.4, + "text": " That was..." + }, + { + "start": 1456.4, + "end": 1457.4, + "text": " That was eating." + }, + { + "start": 1457.4, + "end": 1458.4, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 1458.4, + "end": 1461.4, + "text": " There was every something being eaten." + }, + { + "start": 1461.4, + "end": 1462.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1462.4, + "end": 1464.4, + "text": " Something was being swallowed, I think." + }, + { + "start": 1465.4, + "end": 1467.4, + "text": " So I think that's one eating the breakfast." + }, + { + "start": 1467.4, + "end": 1469.4, + "text": " You are close with someone eating." + }, + { + "start": 1469.4, + "end": 1470.4, + "text": " It was moist." + }, + { + "start": 1470.4, + "end": 1471.4, + "text": " That's what I can tell you." + }, + { + "start": 1471.4, + "end": 1472.4, + "text": " Let's..." + }, + 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This one..." + }, + { + "start": 1566.4, + "end": 1568.4, + "text": " Oh, this is the worst one." + }, + { + "start": 1568.4, + "end": 1570.4, + "text": " This is sound effect three." + }, + { + "start": 1570.4, + "end": 1571.4, + "text": " And I'm..." + }, + { + "start": 1571.4, + "end": 1572.4, + "text": " You might..." + }, + { + "start": 1572.4, + "end": 1573.4, + "text": " I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 1573.4, + "end": 1575.4, + "text": " I feel like this is going to make me feel a bit ill." + }, + { + "start": 1575.4, + "end": 1576.4, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1576.4, + "end": 1578.4, + "text": " Oh no." + }, + { + "start": 1578.4, + "end": 1580.4, + "text": " Make it stop." + }, + { + "start": 1580.4, + "end": 1582.4, + "text": " You sure this can be played on radio one?" + }, + { + "start": 1582.4, + "end": 1583.4, + "text": " Oh no." + }, + { + "start": 1583.4, + "end": 1584.4, + "text": " Oh no." + }, + { + "start": 1584.4, + "end": 1585.4, + "text": " Oh 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Something cooking, do you think?" + }, + { + "start": 1614.4, + "end": 1615.4, + "text": " Yeah, well, I'm thinking it's not what we think." + }, + { + "start": 1615.4, + "end": 1616.4, + "text": " It's not what we think it is." + }, + { + "start": 1616.4, + "end": 1617.4, + "text": " It's not what we think it is." + }, + { + "start": 1617.4, + "end": 1618.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1618.4, + "end": 1619.4, + "text": " I thought it could be popcorn." + }, + { + "start": 1619.4, + "end": 1621.4, + "text": " It sounded quite poppy." + }, + { + "start": 1621.4, + "end": 1623.4, + "text": " It was something being moved, 100%." + }, + { + "start": 1623.4, + "end": 1625.4, + "text": " It's not cooking related." + }, + { + "start": 1625.4, + "end": 1627.4, + "text": " But I can see where you got the sound from." + }, + { + "start": 1627.4, + "end": 1628.4, + "text": " I heard it." + }, + { + "start": 1628.4, + "end": 1629.4, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 1629.4, + 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it somebody that we've mentioned today?" + }, + { + "start": 1686.4, + "end": 1687.4, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 1687.4, + "end": 1688.4, + "text": " You've got it." + }, + { + "start": 1688.4, + "end": 1689.4, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1689.4, + "end": 1690.4, + "text": " So someone for BTS?" + }, + { + "start": 1690.4, + "end": 1691.4, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 1691.4, + "end": 1692.4, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 1692.4, + "end": 1693.4, + "text": " Oh, who asked to be mentioned?" + }, + { + "start": 1693.4, + "end": 1694.4, + "text": " Starts with S and then T." + }, + { + "start": 1694.4, + "end": 1695.4, + "text": " I've missed." + }, + { + "start": 1695.4, + "end": 1696.4, + "text": " Steve I.O.K." + }, + { + "start": 1696.4, + "end": 1699.4, + "text": " Oh, please start with S and then T." + }, + { + "start": 1699.4, + "end": 1700.4, + "text": " Steve." + }, + { + "start": 1700.4, + "end": 1701.4, + "text": " Steve." + }, + { + 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+ { + "start": 1722.4, + "end": 1723.4, + "text": " Nice." + }, + { + "start": 1723.4, + "end": 1724.4, + "text": " I think you can't question and we're asking you though." + }, + { + "start": 1724.4, + "end": 1725.4, + "text": " Have you had fish and chips yet?" + }, + { + "start": 1725.4, + "end": 1727.4, + "text": " I thought that was a good Northern England thing." + }, + { + "start": 1727.4, + "end": 1728.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1728.4, + "end": 1730.4, + "text": " I mean, if you're getting naveling and they might find a lot of chaps." + }, + { + "start": 1730.4, + "end": 1731.4, + "text": " They might pick some grey jeal." + }, + { + "start": 1731.4, + "end": 1732.4, + "text": " They might have that impression on me." + }, + { + "start": 1732.4, + "end": 1733.4, + "text": " Fash and chips." + }, + { + "start": 1733.4, + "end": 1734.4, + "text": " Have you spent much time up in the UK?" + }, + { + "start": 1734.4, + "end": 1735.4, + "text": " Do you say North?" + }, + { + "start": 1735.4, + "end": 1736.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1736.4, + "end": 1737.4, + "text": " Up North." + }, + { + "start": 1737.4, + "end": 1738.4, + "text": " Up North." + }, + { + "start": 1738.4, + "end": 1739.4, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1739.4, + "end": 1740.4, + "text": " North." + }, + { + "start": 1740.4, + "end": 1741.4, + "text": " That's our essay exact." + }, + { + "start": 1741.4, + "end": 1742.4, + "text": " Up North in England." + }, + { + "start": 1742.4, + "end": 1743.4, + "text": " Spending some time up North." + }, + { + "start": 1743.4, + "end": 1745.4, + "text": " Eating some fashioned chips." + }, + { + "start": 1745.4, + "end": 1746.4, + "text": " I think that's what I mean." + }, + { + "start": 1746.4, + "end": 1747.4, + "text": " I think that's what I mean." + }, + { + "start": 1747.4, + "end": 1748.4, + "text": " I think I have the same idea." + }, + { + "start": 1748.4, + "end": 1749.4, + "text": " I think you can say 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I've enjoyed it so much." + }, + { + "start": 2012.6, + "end": 2014.28, + "text": " And thank you for your beautiful V lines." + }, + { + "start": 2014.28, + "end": 2014.92, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 2014.92, + "end": 2017.08, + "text": " And for your beautiful V line, if you skip the end," + }, + { + "start": 2017.08, + "end": 2018.12, + "text": " you missed what that means." + }, + { + "start": 2019.16, + "end": 2022.2, + "text": " But you can hear more of a lovely Del on BBC Radio One." + }, + { + "start": 2022.2, + "end": 2023.64, + "text": " Early hours, what are they, Del?" + }, + { + "start": 2023.64, + "end": 2025.96, + "text": " Yeah, Monday to Friday, 4 till 6 30." + }, + { + "start": 2025.96, + "end": 2026.44, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 2029.96, + "end": 2032.68, + "text": " Next week, we are going to have some exclusives from the Brits." + }, + { + "start": 2032.68, + "end": 2034.92, + "text": " And make sure you subscribe for this PeeChee podcast." + }, + { + "start": 2034.92, + "end": 2035.96, + "text": " And we'll see you again next week." + }, + { + "start": 2035.96, + "end": 2036.84, + "text": " Thanks for listening." + }, + { + "start": 2037.96, + "end": 2039.24, + "text": " What are you reckon, Rian?" + }, + { + "start": 2039.24, + "end": 2040.68, + "text": " Why is it called PeeChee?" + }, + { + "start": 2040.68, + "end": 2042.36, + "text": " I don't know, because they're PeeChee guys." + }, + { + "start": 2042.36, + "end": 2046.44, + "text": " PeeChee's a really old expression, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 2046.44, + "end": 2047.24, + "text": " PeeCheeKeen?" + }, + { + "start": 2047.24, + "end": 2048.2, + "text": " Yeah, yeah. 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What are we going to listen to?" + }, + { + "start": 37.0, + "end": 41.0, + "text": " Bless you, Eli. We're going to listen to no country for young women." + }, + { + "start": 41.0, + "end": 46.0, + "text": " Now this is a great new podcast from two comedians called Sadia and Monty." + }, + { + "start": 46.0, + "end": 52.0, + "text": " And they are exploring in, I think I can say a no-hold-barred type of way." + }, + { + "start": 52.0, + "end": 58.0, + "text": " What it is like to be a young woman from the Black or Asian community living in the UK" + }, + { + "start": 58.0, + "end": 63.0, + "text": " today. And I love them. They have just such a great turn of phrase." + }, + { + "start": 63.0, + "end": 68.0, + "text": " I don't think that would be encouraging my elderly aunts to sit down and listen to this." + }, + { + "start": 68.0, + "end": 71.0, + "text": " Do you know what? 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+ "text": " I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 778.0, + "end": 780.0, + "text": " You're very potential wifey, aren't you?" + }, + { + "start": 780.0, + "end": 782.0, + "text": " No, I'm not a housewife, that's..." + }, + { + "start": 782.0, + "end": 783.0, + "text": " Potential wifey." + }, + { + "start": 783.0, + "end": 786.0, + "text": " Maybe, who knows." + }, + { + "start": 786.0, + "end": 790.0, + "text": " But I guess maybe because I'm a bit too polite." + }, + { + "start": 790.0, + "end": 792.0, + "text": " Sometimes I can be a bit polite." + }, + { + "start": 792.0, + "end": 793.0, + "text": " You're very well-managed, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 793.0, + "end": 794.0, + "text": " Yeah, I'm well-manored." + }, + { + "start": 794.0, + "end": 796.0, + "text": " I don't feel..." + }, + { + "start": 796.0, + "end": 798.0, + "text": " And again, this is a stupid stereotype." + }, + { + "start": 798.0, + "end": 803.0, + "text": " But not all black women are aggressive, not all of 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You've really got a..." + }, + { + "start": 833.0, + "end": 834.0, + "text": " Do you think they hate Muslims?" + }, + { + "start": 834.0, + "end": 836.0, + "text": " I bet they hate Muslims, man." + }, + { + "start": 836.0, + "end": 837.0, + "text": " I don't think they hate..." + }, + { + "start": 837.0, + "end": 838.0, + "text": " Did you really..." + }, + { + "start": 838.0, + "end": 839.0, + "text": " You told them you're Muslim, didn't you?" + }, + { + "start": 839.0, + "end": 840.0, + "text": " No, you were Asian." + }, + { + "start": 840.0, + "end": 841.0, + "text": " You were a bit of a bit of a..." + }, + { + "start": 841.0, + "end": 845.0, + "text": " Yeah, why wasn't he even trying it on with me, motherfucker?" + }, + { + "start": 845.0, + "end": 848.0, + "text": " I know he was single, he didn't have the ring on his finger." + }, + { + "start": 848.0, + "end": 849.0, + "text": " Allow that, for you." + }, + { + "start": 849.0, + "end": 851.0, + "text": " Ring, ring, ring 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928.0, + "end": 930.0, + "text": " I can give them my heritage." + }, + { + "start": 930.0, + "end": 931.0, + "text": " I gave them Monty." + }, + { + "start": 931.0, + "end": 933.0, + "text": " That's all they gave." + }, + { + "start": 933.0, + "end": 935.0, + "text": " Yeah, I try and keep that quiet too." + }, + { + "start": 935.0, + "end": 938.0, + "text": " Sometimes I'm just like, look, just call me Beyonce." + }, + { + "start": 938.0, + "end": 940.0, + "text": " Because they will remember that." + }, + { + "start": 940.0, + "end": 941.0, + "text": " Happy news." + }, + { + "start": 941.0, + "end": 943.0, + "text": " I know, I should say Salange," + }, + { + "start": 943.0, + "end": 945.0, + "text": " because she is the coolest sister." + }, + { + "start": 945.0, + "end": 946.0, + "text": " She really is." + }, + { + "start": 946.0, + "end": 947.0, + "text": " Who would have thought she'd?" + }, + { + "start": 947.0, + "end": 949.0, + "text": " You know, she tweeted at me once." 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She said, Yasmin, Abdel Majid," + }, + { + "start": 951.0, + "end": 952.0, + "text": " you have made my morning." + }, + { + "start": 952.0, + "end": 955.0, + "text": " It is like the highlight of my year." + }, + { + "start": 955.0, + "end": 956.0, + "text": " Wow." + }, + { + "start": 956.0, + "end": 957.0, + "text": " I'm just saying." + }, + { + "start": 957.0, + "end": 958.0, + "text": " That happened this year." + }, + { + "start": 958.0, + "end": 959.0, + "text": " What did you do to make the whole thing?" + }, + { + "start": 959.0, + "end": 961.0, + "text": " You've got to take on..." + }, + { + "start": 961.0, + "end": 964.0, + "text": " You've got to yell at a federal politician" + }, + { + "start": 964.0, + "end": 965.0, + "text": " on national television." + }, + { + "start": 965.0, + "end": 966.0, + "text": " That's fine." + }, + { + "start": 966.0, + "end": 967.0, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 967.0, + "end": 968.0, + "text": " Yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 968.0, + "end": 969.0, + "text": " Because you've just come to learn the recently, right?" + }, + { + "start": 969.0, + "end": 970.0, + "text": " I should probably give a bit of background." + }, + { + "start": 970.0, + "end": 972.0, + "text": " So I'm an Australian." + }, + { + "start": 973.0, + "end": 975.0, + "text": " Hi, how's it going?" + }, + { + "start": 975.0, + "end": 976.0, + "text": " She-la." + }, + { + "start": 976.0, + "end": 977.0, + "text": " That's it." + }, + { + "start": 977.0, + "end": 979.0, + "text": " She-la." + }, + { + "start": 979.0, + "end": 981.0, + "text": " Alright, she-la." + }, + { + "start": 981.0, + "end": 983.0, + "text": " And so I was born in Sudan." + }, + { + "start": 983.0, + "end": 987.0, + "text": " My heritage is like a mix of Sudanese Egyptian Turkish and Moroccan." + }, + { + "start": 987.0, + "end": 990.0, + "text": " So it's like a mungrel North Africa mix." + }, + { + "start": 990.0, + "end": 991.0, + "text": " Love it." + }, + { + 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But be who I want to be." + }, + { + "start": 1297.0, + "end": 1300.0, + "text": " So you're a bubble and you're a tender." + }, + { + "start": 1300.0, + "end": 1301.0, + "text": " Oh, no." + }, + { + "start": 1302.0, + "end": 1303.0, + "text": " Nice segue, though." + }, + { + "start": 1303.0, + "end": 1304.0, + "text": " Yeah, yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1305.0, + "end": 1309.0, + "text": " Look, I went on Tinder for about 24 hours and I was like, wow, this is a world." + }, + { + "start": 1309.0, + "end": 1310.0, + "text": " Did you get dick pics?" + }, + { + "start": 1310.0, + "end": 1313.0, + "text": " I didn't get any photos." + }, + { + "start": 1313.0, + "end": 1314.0, + "text": " You passed two." + }, + { + "start": 1314.0, + "end": 1316.0, + "text": " That was a yes. 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There's a hierarchy in the dating world." + }, + { + "start": 1340.0, + "end": 1341.0, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 1341.0, + "end": 1343.0, + "text": " And this that show, the black women are at the bottom of it." + }, + { + "start": 1343.0, + "end": 1344.0, + "text": " Black women in Asian." + }, + { + "start": 1344.0, + "end": 1346.0, + "text": " We're here for the father, right?" + }, + { + "start": 1346.0, + "end": 1347.0, + "text": " Asian men are the bottom." + }, + { + "start": 1347.0, + "end": 1348.0, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1348.0, + "end": 1349.0, + "text": " Asian." + }, + { + "start": 1349.0, + "end": 1351.0, + "text": " Asian by Asian." + }, + { + "start": 1351.0, + "end": 1353.0, + "text": " I mean, like this show, Asian is like Chinese." + }, + { + "start": 1353.0, + "end": 1354.0, + "text": " Oh, no." + }, + { + "start": 1354.0, + "end": 1355.0, + "text": " Oh, my god." + }, + { + "start": 1355.0, + "end": 1356.0, + "text": " That's like 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Hello." + }, + { + "start": 1379.0, + "end": 1380.0, + "text": " Let me guess." + }, + { + "start": 1380.0, + "end": 1382.0, + "text": " We still live in the same world, white supremacy." + }, + { + "start": 1382.0, + "end": 1383.0, + "text": " That's true." + }, + { + "start": 1383.0, + "end": 1386.0, + "text": " So they got their own like, dating starts like the elite singles, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 1386.0, + "end": 1387.0, + "text": " They got their own kind of..." + }, + { + "start": 1387.0, + "end": 1388.0, + "text": " They are." + }, + { + "start": 1388.0, + "end": 1392.0, + "text": " The elite singles probably means like no black women or Asian men in it." + }, + { + "start": 1392.0, + "end": 1393.0, + "text": " Let's be honest." + }, + { + "start": 1393.0, + "end": 1394.0, + "text": " Let's be honest." + }, + { + "start": 1394.0, + "end": 1395.0, + "text": " They're doing it." + }, + { + "start": 1395.0, + "end": 1400.0, + "text": " I mean, like, I want to put something 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thank you very much." + }, + { + "start": 1540.0, + "end": 1541.0, + "text": " I had some laughs." + }, + { + "start": 1541.0, + "end": 1542.0, + "text": " It's been a great evening." + }, + { + "start": 1542.0, + "end": 1543.0, + "text": " Yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1543.0, + "end": 1544.0, + "text": " I will." + }, + { + "start": 1544.0, + "end": 1545.0, + "text": " I love, I love." + }, + { + "start": 1545.0, + "end": 1546.0, + "text": " Really?" + }, + { + "start": 1546.0, + "end": 1547.0, + "text": " I mean, you've completely awoken my-" + }, + { + "start": 1547.0, + "end": 1548.0, + "text": " Oh, it's a shock risk." + }, + { + "start": 1548.0, + "end": 1549.0, + "text": " It's a sense of-" + }, + { + "start": 1549.0, + "end": 1550.0, + "text": " Am I not a savior?" + }, + { + "start": 1550.0, + "end": 1551.0, + "text": " I'm not a savior." + }, + { + "start": 1551.0, + "end": 1552.0, + "text": " I'm not a savior." + }, + { + "start": 1552.0, + "end": 1553.0, + "text": " I'm 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Wow." + }, + { + "start": 1568.0, + "end": 1569.0, + "text": " I'm a good girl." + }, + { + "start": 1569.0, + "end": 1571.0, + "text": " Who would have named that?" + }, + { + "start": 1571.0, + "end": 1575.0, + "text": " Thank you very much for listening." + }, + { + "start": 1575.0, + "end": 1580.0, + "text": " And before we go, we're going to answer some frequently asked questions from FAQs." + }, + { + "start": 1580.0, + "end": 1586.0, + "text": " I'll look at this part, actually, to be honest, because it's a number of questions that people," + }, + { + "start": 1586.0, + "end": 1591.0, + "text": " stupid people, will ask us as people of colour." + }, + { + "start": 1591.0, + "end": 1593.0, + "text": " And I always find it really funny." + }, + { + "start": 1593.0, + "end": 1597.0, + "text": " Some people might take offense to it, but I think it's fucking hilarious." + }, + { + "start": 1597.0, + "end": 1599.0, + "text": " It does bug me when they ask me dumb questions, though." + 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+ }, + { + "start": 1106.28, + "end": 1107.28, + "text": " Very cool." + }, + { + "start": 1107.28, + "end": 1108.28, + "text": " All right Shane, you might get this one." + }, + { + "start": 1108.28, + "end": 1109.28, + "text": " Let's try this." + }, + { + "start": 1109.28, + "end": 1110.28, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1110.28, + "end": 1111.28, + "text": " Am I?" + }, + { + "start": 1111.28, + "end": 1116.28, + "text": " That's a Game Boy Advance, right?" + }, + { + "start": 1116.28, + "end": 1117.28, + "text": " You got it." + }, + { + "start": 1117.28, + "end": 1118.28, + "text": " That's how I feel." + }, + { + "start": 1118.28, + "end": 1119.28, + "text": " You got it." + }, + { + "start": 1119.28, + "end": 1120.28, + "text": " You got it." + }, + { + "start": 1120.28, + "end": 1121.28, + "text": " That's cool." + }, + { + "start": 1121.28, + "end": 1122.28, + "text": " You got me." + }, + { + "start": 1122.28, + "end": 1124.28, + "text": " This video game related, I'ma 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Yes, they go" + }, + { + "start": 1535.52, + "end": 1542.28, + "text": " Oh, there you go the age is definitely showing on this one because I never have to have ever had to deal with the facts machine" + }, + { + "start": 1542.28, + "end": 1547.8799999999999, + "text": " In my life ever I still have a facts machine for my company. I have a fact really" + }, + { + "start": 1548.32, + "end": 1552.2, + "text": " This is a long line facts, but you all right this one" + }, + { + "start": 1552.72, + "end": 1555.16, + "text": " Well, this one might be a little tough. 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1527.08, + "text": " How it's implied in the future or could do both probably will do a little bit of both this is every day tech on MPB think radio with wilts and Jeremy I'm J let's go right to the phones to start the second half of the show will start in Cleveland with Chuck Chuck." + }, + { + "start": 1527.08, + "end": 1529.08, + "text": " Thanks for calling what's going on this morning." + }, + { + "start": 1529.08, + "end": 1532.08, + "text": " Good morning gentlemen great show by the way." + }, + { + "start": 1532.08, + "end": 1533.08, + "text": " Thank you sir." + }, + { + "start": 1533.08, + "end": 1538.08, + "text": " I do happen to be a professor at the Alpha State." + }, + { + "start": 1538.08, + "end": 1539.08, + "text": " Awesome." + }, + { + "start": 1539.08, + "end": 1543.08, + "text": " My question is not really about chat gpp." + }, + { + "start": 1543.08, + "end": 1557.08, + "text": " My technical question was what is your opinion on the windows 11 extended security 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Good morning. Hey I hope you can hear me I'm busy working but I'm listening to your show as I'm going through and I just wanted to tell you that there is a podcast by John Favaro called offline and one of the podcast he did talked about chat GPT he talked with I can't remember the name of the guy but he was some kind of I'm not going to talk about that." + }, + { + "start": 2304.08, + "end": 2333.08, + "text": " He's a language professor and he was talking about how the chat GPT you know he could write maybe a 10th grade kind of paper you know but it can't write you can't write something that you know is going to be going to pass you know as a reasonable assignment you know for college or anything but I think what I would I gather" + }, + { + "start": 2333.08, + "end": 2356.08, + "text": " from this and also this is another comment they made is that you know it's like writing your first draft and so the chat GPT writes the first draft and then you still have the option for your creativity to come involved with with the rest of the rest of the whatever story or book or whatever." + }, + { + "start": 2356.08, + "end": 2385.08, + "text": " Oh no doubt for sure I mean you know we were kind of making the joke and I mentioned earlier that I asked it to write a 30 second radio promo and it did and it didn't it didn't write it in the in the proper context but it write out a framework that I could take this word out and that word out and basically the promo is basically written so I mean it I mean yeah it was like 90% done I mean it wasn't it wasn't how I would have done it personally but for" + }, + { + "start": 2385.08, + "end": 2391.08, + "text": " 99% of people doing that was perfectly fine which is kind of scary to some certain extent." + }, + { + "start": 2391.08, + "end": 2414.08, + "text": " Yeah I also wonder if it's it's kind of like you know we use calculator to do math you know right but we're still we're still using our brains to you know to come up with equations for the for the calculator to consider or that's a great that's a perfect correlation David and we appreciate the call" + }, + { + "start": 2414.08, + "end": 2427.08, + "text": " that I heard some folks on a podcast make is that you know people thought bringing calculators in a classroom is just going to turn kids brains into mush because they weren't going to do math anymore." + }, + { + "start": 2427.08, + "end": 2443.08, + "text": " That's not necessarily it still learn learn math but it's part of I mean they're they're in our cell phones they're on your wristwatches now it's part of life calculators are everywhere so you don't have to do that heavy stuff" + }, + { + "start": 2443.08, + "end": 2464.08, + "text": " that heavy lifting with your brain it's unnecessary this is kind of the same thing but I understand the stakes are way bigger and I've used this terminology already about five times in the show but the slope is certainly slicker slippery more slippery Jeremy what were you going to say you're going to jump in there for a second." + }, + { + "start": 2464.08, + "end": 2491.08, + "text": " Well okay so I was thinking about the fact that like you know I don't write copy for a living I'm not like you know educated in it I haven't taken courses in or anything of course I have the courses I've just never actually attended them but because I don't have time so I think about like hey okay can this thing right copy for me so I didn't realize that we could log in I thought we had to like have a special account I know back in December you had to have a special account but now you can just go and set up an account and you can start playing with this thing so I said." + }, + { + "start": 2491.08, + "end": 2520.08, + "text": " Right add copy for frustrated technology users who need a technology pro and it's pretty awesome that you can just give it a prompt and tell it like literally I want you basically just at you asked it to write an ad for your business basically yes I did I'm going to stick it on my website once I hone it a little bit but I get the point now like it's like it's sort of like a spreadsheet does all the math for you and it's just kind of like you just sort of fill in the blanks here where you feel like it's lacking so it is cool it is a great thing." + }, + { + "start": 2521.08, + "end": 2550.08, + "text": " I'm not a really neat tool. 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They got 27 reviews." + }, + { + "start": 2800.08, + "end": 2807.08, + "text": " They got a 4.8 review. You know, don't hold this against me. I don't know what they can do but it's called rocket computer solutions." + }, + { + "start": 2807.08, + "end": 2809.08, + "text": " It's there in Oxford." + }, + { + "start": 2809.08, + "end": 2815.08, + "text": " I'm going to go based on their Google reviews that they do a good job for people and it says they repair computers." + }, + { + "start": 2815.08, + "end": 2819.08, + "text": " So I would I would seek out someone there that says they have 10 plus years experience." + }, + { + "start": 2819.08, + "end": 2822.08, + "text": " So they should be able to help you out." + }, + { + "start": 2822.08, + "end": 2824.08, + "text": " I hope." + }, + { + "start": 2824.08, + "end": 2829.08, + "text": " All right, we appreciate the call from Elaine and Quipman County and Java had a good idea. 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They had to invent an identity for that country. They had" + }, + { + "start": 239.2, + "end": 244.64, + "text": " to create a unity for that country and all of that required a great deal of inventiveness." + }, + { + "start": 245.44, + "end": 251.2, + "text": " The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans." + }, + { + "start": 252.39999999999998, + "end": 261.84, + "text": " America today, this land of 50 states and some 325 million souls, is the third most populated" + }, + { + "start": 261.84, + "end": 269.12, + "text": " but undoubtedly the most powerful nation in the world. Because today we are not merely transferring" + }, + { + "start": 269.2, + "end": 276.56, + "text": " power from one administration to another. But we are transferring power from Washington DC" + }, + { + "start": 277.2, + "end": 287.12, + "text": " and giving it back to you the people. All men have created equals, St Thomas Jefferson in 1776," + }, + { + "start": 287.76, + "end": 294.8, + "text": " endowed by the creator with certain inalienable rights among them, not just life, liberty and happiness," + }, + { + "start": 294.8, + "end": 300.64, + "text": " but above all the right not to be taxed. That's what the revolution was fought for." + }, + { + "start": 301.36, + "end": 307.36, + "text": " And it's worth saying here how much and how often Donald Trump loves to quote the founding fathers." + }, + { + "start": 308.08000000000004, + "end": 312.08000000000004, + "text": " George Washington for example, on the need for an energetic government," + }, + { + "start": 312.08000000000004, + "end": 316.40000000000003, + "text": " or Alexander Hamilton on the expediency of encouraging manufacturing." + }, + { + "start": 316.64, + "end": 321.2, + "text": " You're factoring in, in, in, in the United States." + }, + { + "start": 323.67999999999995, + "end": 331.84, + "text": " This is powerful crowd pleasing stuff. And his story ends like Alan Taylor, a double pullitzer winner," + }, + { + "start": 331.84, + "end": 338.0, + "text": " believe what he's doing is employing the national myth. Well, I'm not sure that any national myth" + }, + { + "start": 338.0, + "end": 343.91999999999996, + "text": " is meant to be completely honest. It's meant to give a very positive identity and it's meant to" + }, + { + "start": 343.92, + "end": 349.2, + "text": " create a set of heroes at the very foundation. Of course it's happening now. I mean the people who" + }, + { + "start": 349.2, + "end": 356.64000000000004, + "text": " have just won the election have insisted early and often that they express better than any other" + }, + { + "start": 356.64000000000004, + "end": 363.76, + "text": " political persuasion, the intent of the founders. And if we go back to that intent that we will" + }, + { + "start": 363.76, + "end": 370.24, + "text": " set everything correctly in the American Republic. But what were these founding fathers really" + }, + { + "start": 370.24, + "end": 374.88, + "text": " trying to do? That's what I want to find out. And that's why this program starts not with the" + }, + { + "start": 374.88, + "end": 379.76, + "text": " revolution, but in the years immediately after the British have been defeated and flung out." + }, + { + "start": 380.56, + "end": 386.8, + "text": " The first person I turned to was Kathy Burke, author of Old World New World, an extremely rich" + }, + { + "start": 386.8, + "end": 394.56, + "text": " tale of relations between us and them. My first question, can you please list the 13 colonies who" + }, + { + "start": 394.64, + "end": 401.76, + "text": " now find themselves free? Well, Massachusetts, of course, and at that point Maine was part of it." + }, + { + "start": 402.64, + "end": 408.56, + "text": " This isn't fair, you know, I required advance notice of this one. New Hampshire, Vermont," + }, + { + "start": 408.56, + "end": 417.52, + "text": " Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina." + }, + { + "start": 417.52, + "end": 421.76, + "text": " Pennsylvania? Yes, I was trying to remember whether I'd said Pennsylvania." + }, + { + "start": 421.76, + "end": 428.88, + "text": " Rhode Island and Maryland. Great. One difficulty is that even at the end of the Revolutionary War," + }, + { + "start": 428.88, + "end": 434.8, + "text": " they were not the American people. They were Carolinians. They were Massachusetts men. They were" + }, + { + "start": 434.8, + "end": 442.4, + "text": " New Yorkers. So at the end of the war, you had 13 colonies who were going to be turned into 13 states." + }, + { + "start": 442.4, + "end": 449.36, + "text": " And they came together and what's called the Confederation. 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Multiple states combined with multiple enemies still knocking" + }, + { + "start": 495.92, + "end": 503.36, + "text": " at the door. Now these young Americans, they had to unite if they didn't the whole enterprise would" + }, + { + "start": 503.36, + "end": 511.36, + "text": " have been threatened. Right now we're heading uptown up the Spineman-Handt at 79th Street, where I'm" + }, + { + "start": 511.36, + "end": 516.16, + "text": " going to meet someone who's made this period in US history pretty much her life's worth." + }, + { + "start": 516.48, + "end": 523.6, + "text": " Carol Birkin, author of a brilliant solution inventing the American Constitution." + }, + { + "start": 526.48, + "end": 534.8, + "text": " The revolution was 13 separate countries who wanted to be free of any regulation by a central" + }, + { + "start": 534.8, + "end": 540.4, + "text": " government. And that's what they got. The articles of Confederation and that was lovely except it" + }, + { + "start": 540.48, + "end": 548.3199999999999, + "text": " didn't work. The result was that the country, which was not yet really a country, it was, I love the" + }, + { + "start": 548.3199999999999, + "end": 554.88, + "text": " expression, a League of Friendship. Couldn't come out of the post-war depression because each and" + }, + { + "start": 554.88, + "end": 565.84, + "text": " every one of them said tariffs and Europeans know what that entails. So states were so hostile to" + }, + { + "start": 565.84, + "end": 572.5600000000001, + "text": " one another that on the Potomac River, Maryland and Virginia had gun boats aimed at one another." + }, + { + "start": 573.6800000000001, + "end": 581.6, + "text": " New York was charging New Jersey and Connecticut so much money for goods that came through New York" + }, + { + "start": 581.6, + "end": 587.76, + "text": " City that on the eve of the Constitutional Convention these two states were said to be meeting" + }, + { + "start": 587.84, + "end": 596.56, + "text": " in secret to invade New York. So let me ask you then that tension which we see every day in the" + }, + { + "start": 596.56, + "end": 603.84, + "text": " United States between central government and state rights, that tension was there at the very" + }, + { + "start": 603.84, + "end": 609.28, + "text": " beginning of the Constitution. Absolutely. The states are going to go to war with each other. And on" + }, + { + "start": 609.28, + "end": 615.52, + "text": " top of that there are going to be slave revolts. There's already been a major farmers revolt in" + }, + { + "start": 615.52, + "end": 626.0, + "text": " Massachusetts. So the Constitution was in a sense an invention to solve the problem of the country" + }, + { + "start": 626.0, + "end": 632.3199999999999, + "text": " disappearing. The only thing that had held these 13 states together was a common enemy. It was the" + }, + { + "start": 632.3199999999999, + "end": 637.1999999999999, + "text": " British Empire. So they're held together by the war and they could not have won that without" + }, + { + "start": 637.1999999999999, + "end": 644.0799999999999, + "text": " assistance from the French who provided their own fleet. But then these 13 states couldn't agree" + }, + { + "start": 644.1600000000001, + "end": 648.32, + "text": " on anything. Particularly they couldn't agree on how to fund their massive debt that they'd" + }, + { + "start": 648.32, + "end": 654.5600000000001, + "text": " incurred during the war. And so it's a very uncertain future that the United States embarks on in the" + }, + { + "start": 654.5600000000001, + "end": 661.5200000000001, + "text": " 1780s and it's not really a United States. It's a dis-United States. And they worried that the United" + }, + { + "start": 661.5200000000001, + "end": 666.96, + "text": " States then instead of being a United States would repeat the unhappy experiences of Europe" + }, + { + "start": 667.0400000000001, + "end": 675.2800000000001, + "text": " being divided into hostile states in chronic wars with one another in search, somewhat futile" + }, + { + "start": 675.2800000000001, + "end": 681.2800000000001, + "text": " search of some balance of power. And it is to avert that sort of future that they gathered in" + }, + { + "start": 681.2800000000001, + "end": 688.48, + "text": " Philadelphia in 1787 and came up with a new constitution to try to create a more national center" + }, + { + "start": 688.48, + "end": 696.64, + "text": " of power than anything they had ever known before. Let's go to this clip from Donald Trump when" + }, + { + "start": 696.64, + "end": 703.84, + "text": " he was speaking in Pennsylvania earlier about the founding fathers. Our founding fathers understood" + }, + { + "start": 703.84, + "end": 710.96, + "text": " trade much better than our current politicians believe. One of the peculiarities of a new nation is" + }, + { + "start": 710.96, + "end": 716.64, + "text": " no one necessarily knows where the capital should be. The Declaration of Independence was signed" + }, + { + "start": 716.8, + "end": 724.56, + "text": " in Philadelphia and the new constitution was too. So Philly from 1790 was the capital of the US." + }, + { + "start": 724.56, + "end": 730.96, + "text": " And that's why I've come here to meet a Philly native, the writer Joe Quinin. He's driving me around," + }, + { + "start": 730.96, + "end": 738.16, + "text": " giving me the tour. He's during State Panatone Sherry which is now a museum. My uncle was in there" + }, + { + "start": 738.8, + "end": 746.3199999999999, + "text": " for a long time. Scary looking building. So Joe tell me why did the founding fathers assemble" + }, + { + "start": 746.32, + "end": 752.8000000000001, + "text": " here? For starters, Philadelphia was by far the biggest city in the United States. It was more than" + }, + { + "start": 752.8000000000001, + "end": 758.8000000000001, + "text": " twice the size of Boston. It was in fact one of the largest cities in the entire British Empire." + }, + { + "start": 758.8000000000001, + "end": 765.2, + "text": " It was easy to get to because it's between two rivers. It wasn't dirty like European cities. It" + }, + { + "start": 765.2, + "end": 770.24, + "text": " had beautiful red brick buildings. You could get a nice meal. It was a place that people were happy" + }, + { + "start": 770.24, + "end": 776.64, + "text": " to come. Also people in Pennsylvania had a more pacific temperament than people from other parts" + }, + { + "start": 776.64, + "end": 781.92, + "text": " at the country. People in the south were people in the south and people in Massachusetts were kind" + }, + { + "start": 781.92, + "end": 786.08, + "text": " of rabble browsers. They were much more radical. Whereas the people in Pennsylvania were more" + }, + { + "start": 786.08, + "end": 791.44, + "text": " conciliatory, more willing to say, okay, I'll give you a little bit if you give me a little bit." + }, + { + "start": 791.44, + "end": 797.04, + "text": " They wanted to make this thing work. And so temperamentally this was a good place. It was like," + }, + { + "start": 797.04, + "end": 804.3199999999999, + "text": " it was like a neutral corner almost in a boxing ring. One scholar has very aptly referred to" + }, + { + "start": 804.3199999999999, + "end": 810.9599999999999, + "text": " the US Constitution and its union as a peace pact. As a pact between potential enemies and the" + }, + { + "start": 810.9599999999999, + "end": 817.36, + "text": " potential enemies were these states. So these 13 states had deep distrust of one another and it" + }, + { + "start": 817.36, + "end": 825.12, + "text": " is that distrust that paradoxically leads them to try to seek a union with one another. And so 55" + }, + { + "start": 825.12, + "end": 830.0, + "text": " delegates from across the former colonies of what was not yet even called the United States" + }, + { + "start": 830.64, + "end": 838.32, + "text": " began to travel to Philadelphia. James Madison arrived first. Ten days later the next delegate arrived." + }, + { + "start": 839.04, + "end": 845.84, + "text": " Rhode Island sent nobody. Jefferson was abroad in Paris. But Alexander Hamilton came in from New York" + }, + { + "start": 845.84, + "end": 851.28, + "text": " and with George Washington presiding over the debates, they all gathered in Independence Hall." + }, + { + "start": 852.0, + "end": 859.6, + "text": " It's a nice building isn't it? Classic red brick. Looks like a church. Beautiful but not imperial." + }, + { + "start": 859.6, + "end": 866.24, + "text": " What was going on in there? Interestingly enough we don't know exactly what did go on because they" + }, + { + "start": 866.24, + "end": 872.4, + "text": " made an agreement to maintain silence the entire time. So we don't know exactly what happened." + }, + { + "start": 872.4, + "end": 876.72, + "text": " They didn't want the public to get involved and they didn't want the press to get involved." + }, + { + "start": 876.8000000000001, + "end": 882.0, + "text": " And they argued about what kind of government they were going to have. And who were these people?" + }, + { + "start": 882.0, + "end": 888.4, + "text": " The delegates were they poor? Were they rich? What? There were no poor guys here. There were no" + }, + { + "start": 888.4, + "end": 895.36, + "text": " son Kulat. There were none of those. There were a lot of lawyers. They had an interest in the country" + }, + { + "start": 895.36, + "end": 900.24, + "text": " being successful. There were speculators involved but there weren't any poor people involved here." + }, + { + "start": 901.0400000000001, + "end": 906.24, + "text": " And they were educated and a lot of them influenced by the Enlightenment. Yeah they were educated" + }, + { + "start": 906.24, + "end": 911.36, + "text": " in a way that people today aren't. They knew what was going on in the rest of the world." + }, + { + "start": 911.36, + "end": 916.48, + "text": " They were excited by ideas. I think that that's one of the differences between them and people now." + }, + { + "start": 916.48, + "end": 923.36, + "text": " They were excited by ideas. They were excited by what they were doing. They were creating a country." + }, + { + "start": 923.36, + "end": 931.04, + "text": " It's hard to do that. The men who went there, Alexander Hamilton has a wonderful phrase." + }, + { + "start": 931.8399999999999, + "end": 940.0799999999999, + "text": " He said, the men at the convention thought continentally. So a lot of these people were born" + }, + { + "start": 940.0799999999999, + "end": 947.8399999999999, + "text": " outside the country like Hamilton or like William Patterson, men who were born in Scotland or Ireland" + }, + { + "start": 947.8399999999999, + "end": 954.48, + "text": " or England or the Caribbean. They had served in the continental army not in local regiments. So" + }, + { + "start": 954.5600000000001, + "end": 960.8000000000001, + "text": " they had actually traveled length and breadth of the country and had a kind of perspective about it." + }, + { + "start": 962.16, + "end": 968.4, + "text": " Many of them had gone to boarding school and to college in France and in England. They'd studied" + }, + { + "start": 968.4, + "end": 975.6, + "text": " in the ends of court. So these are men who had a broader perspective than some of the other" + }, + { + "start": 975.6, + "end": 982.0, + "text": " revolutionaries. 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And finally," + }, + { + "start": 1180.5600000000002, + "end": 1189.76, + "text": " the supreme court. But this says Kathleen Burke was not democracy. No, sadly, I believe that a" + }, + { + "start": 1189.76, + "end": 1196.64, + "text": " black slave was two thirds of a person in way of counting how many votes a state got." + }, + { + "start": 1196.64, + "end": 1200.96, + "text": " But that two thirds of a person wasn't able to vote his or herself." + }, + { + "start": 1200.96, + "end": 1207.8400000000001, + "text": " Surely not, nor were women. So manhood suffrage was really that. Manhood suffrage as long as you" + }, + { + "start": 1207.8400000000001, + "end": 1215.2800000000002, + "text": " were the right color. We the people, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the great phrases of" + }, + { + "start": 1215.2800000000002, + "end": 1222.0800000000002, + "text": " the founding fathers still ring down the centuries. And yet cruelty and inequality are there in the" + }, + { + "start": 1222.08, + "end": 1229.36, + "text": " Constitution right from the start. Well, they're very careful in writing the Constitution to never" + }, + { + "start": 1229.36, + "end": 1238.24, + "text": " use the word slave or the word slavery. And they use various some low, you low cutions in order to" + }, + { + "start": 1238.24, + "end": 1247.12, + "text": " avoid those words. But there was this contradiction built right into the very beginning, which is that" + }, + { + "start": 1247.12, + "end": 1253.12, + "text": " they were fighting not just for human rights, but also for what they saw as the rights of property." + }, + { + "start": 1254.08, + "end": 1261.84, + "text": " They were defending property owners from the power of the British Parliament to tax people without" + }, + { + "start": 1261.84, + "end": 1268.3999999999999, + "text": " their consent. 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That elusive balance between what the" + }, + { + "start": 1347.6, + "end": 1354.3999999999999, + "text": " center can do and what individual states can do. The federal government had some powers exclusively." + }, + { + "start": 1354.4, + "end": 1362.4, + "text": " The states had some powers exclusively and they shared some powers. Alexander Hamilton sat there" + }, + { + "start": 1362.4, + "end": 1370.96, + "text": " amazed and he got up and he said, this is never going to work. That brings me on to my next question." + }, + { + "start": 1371.52, + "end": 1377.0400000000002, + "text": " On the one hand, we have this contradiction between central power and the states and the issue" + }, + { + "start": 1377.04, + "end": 1384.96, + "text": " of federalism and the other thing which we know the Constitution for, its rhetorical obsession with liberty." + }, + { + "start": 1386.24, + "end": 1391.76, + "text": " But of course not everyone in the 13 states could claim to enjoy that liberty." + }, + { + "start": 1392.3999999999999, + "end": 1399.92, + "text": " The Constitution does not talk about liberty. The Bill of Rights talks about all the rights and" + }, + { + "start": 1400.48, + "end": 1409.04, + "text": " privileges and guarantees. It's a legal document. 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Hello. And I'm Rian. I didn't introduce myself." + }, + { + "start": 39.2, + "end": 43.84, + "text": " Hi, Rian. How are you? I'm Rian. But E-Live has today's suggestion." + }, + { + "start": 43.84, + "end": 47.44, + "text": " Yeah, today we're going to listen to Drag Queen's Den." + }, + { + "start": 47.44, + "end": 54.96, + "text": " Now, just a little audio warning at the top, there's some strong light and quick, some kind of crazy things discussed from time to time." + }, + { + "start": 54.96, + "end": 67.12, + "text": " This is, well, it's by and large, it's a bunch of Drag Queen's talking about the drag scene, both in the UK and the US, in this episode we hear from Michelle Disage." + }, + { + "start": 67.12, + "end": 69.36, + "text": " I know her. She's on RuPaul." + }, + { + "start": 69.36, + "end": 74.0, + "text": " Yeah, yeah. She's kind of a serious eminence in the world of drag." + }, + { + "start": 74.0, + "end": 76.0, + "text": " Absolutely. 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Just to give you the warning, Drag Queen's can be a little bit rude." + }, + { + "start": 103.92, + "end": 105.12, + "text": " And we often say words like," + }, + { + "start": 105.92, + "end": 110.72, + "text": " and f***ing, if these things offend you, please go and listen to another show on BBC Sounds." + }, + { + "start": 110.72, + "end": 114.64, + "text": " Kui! I'm Clint Fussle, and this is Ready One's Drag Queen's Den." + }, + { + "start": 114.64, + "end": 119.36, + "text": " You're weekly dose of fabulous queens across the scene from RuPaul to Liverpool." + }, + { + "start": 121.68, + "end": 126.4, + "text": " Coming up, we've got an extra special show for you, an extended interview with a first lady of drag," + }, + { + "start": 126.4, + "end": 131.44, + "text": " Michelle Visage. She'll be spending all her drag race UK secrets in the studio," + }, + { + "start": 131.44, + "end": 135.76, + "text": " alongside Jackie Potato. 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"text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 689.5999999999999, + "end": 693.92, + "text": " With the community, which is why I get a lot of flack" + }, + { + "start": 693.92, + "end": 695.5999999999999, + "text": " for calling myself part of the community." + }, + { + "start": 695.5999999999999, + "end": 699.12, + "text": " But I've always only known it to be part of the community." + }, + { + "start": 699.12, + "end": 701.1999999999999, + "text": " That's where I felt at home." + }, + { + "start": 701.1999999999999, + "end": 704.0799999999999, + "text": " That's why there have been people along the way" + }, + { + "start": 704.0799999999999, + "end": 706.9599999999999, + "text": " that have used the community to garner them attention" + }, + { + "start": 706.96, + "end": 708.48, + "text": " or a better career." + }, + { + "start": 708.48, + "end": 710.88, + "text": " I will never, ever, ever leave the community" + }, + { + "start": 710.88, + "end": 713.2800000000001, + "text": " because it's 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"end": 1285.12, + "text": " Jade from Little Mix." + }, + { + "start": 1285.12, + "end": 1286.32, + "text": " What are you?" + }, + { + "start": 1286.32, + "end": 1287.2, + "text": " What you need?" + }, + { + "start": 1288.3999999999999, + "end": 1289.68, + "text": " Chucker in the Priory." + }, + { + "start": 1289.68, + "end": 1290.8799999999999, + "text": " It's Dragotics." + }, + { + "start": 1290.8799999999999, + "end": 1294.72, + "text": " Jade, my darling, thank you so much for joining us on Drag Queen's Den." + }, + { + "start": 1294.72, + "end": 1296.72, + "text": " I understand that you're on a beach." + }, + { + "start": 1296.72, + "end": 1297.6, + "text": " Is that correct?" + }, + { + "start": 1297.6799999999998, + "end": 1299.04, + "text": " I am, I'm a mamiho." + }, + { + "start": 1299.04, + "end": 1300.24, + "text": " Well, we've got a few questions for you." + }, + { + "start": 1300.24, + "end": 1301.1999999999998, + "text": " Are you ready to take them?" + }, + { + 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1478.32, + "end": 1478.9599999999998, + "text": " And you do?" + }, + { + "start": 1478.9599999999998, + "end": 1480.1599999999999, + "text": " You do so wonderfully." + }, + { + "start": 1480.1599999999999, + "end": 1482.48, + "text": " And yeah, what I've been doing for the community." + }, + { + "start": 1482.48, + "end": 1485.84, + "text": " Okay, so listen, finally, everybody needs a drag queen name." + }, + { + "start": 1485.84, + "end": 1488.8, + "text": " So what would be your drag queen name, Jade?" + }, + { + "start": 1488.8, + "end": 1492.1599999999999, + "text": " Oh, well, Willem did name his..." + }, + { + "start": 1493.1999999999998, + "end": 1494.3999999999999, + "text": " She need a nibble." + }, + { + "start": 1495.36, + "end": 1497.12, + "text": " Because every time I've gone in, I out," + }, + { + "start": 1497.12, + "end": 1499.1999999999998, + "text": " I have some sort of snack in my bag." + }, + { + "start": 1499.2, + "end": 1501.2, + "text": " Do you know, I can actually vouch for you on that," + }, + { + "start": 1501.2, + "end": 1502.96, + "text": " because I remember when you came to think the pink" + }, + { + "start": 1502.96, + "end": 1506.0, + "text": " and you opened your clutch bag and pulled out a derrily dunkle." + }, + { + "start": 1508.16, + "end": 1509.1200000000001, + "text": " I'm like, what?" + }, + { + "start": 1510.88, + "end": 1512.0, + "text": " I always love to have a snack." + }, + { + "start": 1512.0, + "end": 1513.68, + "text": " You never know when you're going to need it." + }, + { + "start": 1513.68, + "end": 1517.52, + "text": " If you're absolutely feeling you need a little snack." + }, + { + "start": 1517.52, + "end": 1519.76, + "text": " Well, listen, babe, thank you so much." + }, + { + "start": 1519.76, + "end": 1522.32, + "text": " You are officially a full-on drag addict." + }, + { + "start": 1522.32, + "end": 1522.96, + "text": " I am." + }, + { + "start": 1522.96, + "end": 1525.6000000000001, + "text": " I'm going to let you get back to the beach, enjoy the sun," + }, + { + "start": 1525.6000000000001, + "end": 1527.68, + "text": " and I will catch up with you in a drag bar soon." + }, + { + "start": 1527.76, + "end": 1529.04, + "text": " Thank you so much." + }, + { + "start": 1529.04, + "end": 1530.0, + "text": " It's a pleasure." + }, + { + "start": 1530.0, + "end": 1531.04, + "text": " And I'll be soon." + }, + { + "start": 1531.04, + "end": 1532.0800000000002, + "text": " Loads of love, Jade." + }, + { + "start": 1532.0800000000002, + "end": 1532.72, + "text": " Kisses." + }, + { + "start": 1532.72, + "end": 1533.92, + "text": " Bye, babe." + }, + { + "start": 1536.0800000000002, + "end": 1537.1200000000001, + "text": " Oh, you big boy." + }, + { + "start": 1537.1200000000001, + "end": 1538.5600000000002, + "text": " Greg, your radio show is..." + }, + { + "start": 1540.0800000000002, + "end": 1541.28, + "text": " Thank you, Gordon." + }, + { + "start": 1541.28, + "end": 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"text": " So I'm from Bristol." + }, + { + "start": 1729.6799999999998, + "end": 1731.36, + "text": " But I've londoned out there." + }, + { + "start": 1731.36, + "end": 1732.3999999999999, + "text": " Have you poshed it out?" + }, + { + "start": 1732.3999999999999, + "end": 1733.28, + "text": " A little bit darling, too." + }, + { + "start": 1733.28, + "end": 1734.08, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1734.08, + "end": 1737.84, + "text": " But a really thick, Bristol accent is just proper." + }, + { + "start": 1737.84, + "end": 1740.7199999999998, + "text": " Yeah, but you can even go to West Country or Coxwolds" + }, + { + "start": 1740.7199999999998, + "end": 1743.1999999999998, + "text": " and you get some of those farming queens up there." + }, + { + "start": 1743.1999999999998, + "end": 1745.04, + "text": " I mean, that's the exciting thing, right?" + }, + { + "start": 1745.04, + "end": 1745.9199999999998, + "text": " Imagine if, you know," + }, + { + "start": 1745.9199999999998, + "end": 1746.8, + "text": " Huddersfield queens," + }, + { + "start": 1746.8, + "end": 1748.6399999999999, + "text": " and we get a queen right from Lanzend." + }, + { + "start": 1748.6399999999999, + "end": 1749.12, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1749.12, + "end": 1749.9199999999998, + "text": " That's what I want to see." + }, + { + "start": 1749.9199999999998, + "end": 1750.48, + "text": " Yeah, same." + }, + { + "start": 1752.8799999999999, + "end": 1754.56, + "text": " The magic of drag is," + }, + { + "start": 1754.56, + "end": 1755.84, + "text": " it's like the language of love." + }, + { + "start": 1760.56, + "end": 1762.8, + "text": " So what are your thoughts on female drag?" + }, + { + "start": 1762.8, + "end": 1764.0, + "text": " Well, I am a drag queen." + }, + { + "start": 1764.0, + "end": 1765.12, + "text": " No, but I mean, yeah, you are." + }, + { + "start": 1765.12, + "end": 1766.56, + "text": " I have a tattooed on my thigh." + }, + { + "start": 1766.56, + "end": 1767.12, + "text": " Do you?" + }, + { + "start": 1767.12, + "end": 1768.24, + "text": " Yeah, look, I'll show you." + }, + { + "start": 1768.24, + "end": 1769.04, + "text": " Get it out." + }, + { + "start": 1769.04, + "end": 1769.84, + "text": " I'm going to whip it out." + }, + { + "start": 1769.84, + "end": 1770.8799999999999, + "text": " Yeah, do it." + }, + { + "start": 1771.52, + "end": 1772.32, + "text": " Let's have a look." + }, + { + "start": 1772.32, + "end": 1772.8, + "text": " Ready?" + }, + { + "start": 1772.8, + "end": 1773.76, + "text": " Have a little look at this." + }, + { + "start": 1773.76, + "end": 1774.32, + "text": " Good." + }, + { + "start": 1774.32, + "end": 1775.1999999999998, + "text": " Oh my god." + }, + { + "start": 1775.1999999999998, + "end": 1776.3999999999999, + "text": " Yes, you do." + }, + { + "start": 1776.3999999999999, + "end": 1777.04, + "text": " Drag queen." + }, + { + "start": 1777.04, + "end": 1777.76, + "text": " Are you been dancing?" + }, + { + "start": 1777.76, + "end": 1778.24, + "text": " How many you go?" + }, + { + "start": 1778.24, + "end": 1779.9199999999998, + "text": " That's sturdy thigh." + }, + { + "start": 1779.9199999999998, + "end": 1781.6799999999998, + "text": " Well, you know me jumping up on tables." + }, + { + "start": 1784.32, + "end": 1787.76, + "text": " Female drag is again all relative." + }, + { + "start": 1787.76, + "end": 1789.4399999999998, + "text": " Because it's a real big thing right now." + }, + { + "start": 1789.44, + "end": 1790.48, + "text": " Especially in London." + }, + { + "start": 1790.48, + "end": 1791.04, + "text": " Especially over here." + }, + { + "start": 1791.04, + "end": 1792.3200000000002, + "text": " Well, here's at the end of the day," + }, + { + "start": 1793.04, + "end": 1795.04, + "text": " I've always considered myself a drag queen" + }, + { + "start": 1795.04, + "end": 1796.48, + "text": " because I've always been called a drag 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Yeah, this is so true." + }, + { + "start": 2038.4, + "end": 2038.88, + "text": " I love it." + }, + { + "start": 2038.88, + "end": 2039.6, + "text": " I support it all." + }, + { + "start": 2039.6, + "end": 2040.4, + "text": " You know what I think is amazing?" + }, + { + "start": 2040.4, + "end": 2041.68, + "text": " Well, there is..." + }, + { + "start": 2043.2, + "end": 2046.08, + "text": " Bio-Queen or sort of female drag and drag Kings." + }, + { + "start": 2046.08, + "end": 2046.56, + "text": " Like..." + }, + { + "start": 2047.44, + "end": 2049.44, + "text": " Is it as well that that's just a touch" + }, + { + "start": 2049.52, + "end": 2050.7200000000003, + "text": " Mournish as well?" + }, + { + "start": 2050.7200000000003, + "end": 2050.96, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2050.96, + "end": 2051.84, + "text": " It is way more niche." + }, + { + "start": 2051.84, + "end": 2052.08, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2052.08, + "end": 2053.12, + "text": " The 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"end": 2122.96, + "text": " does that make me not a woman?" + }, + { + "start": 2122.96, + "end": 2123.76, + "text": " Which is..." + }, + { + "start": 2123.76, + "end": 2125.44, + "text": " In my mind, I think that..." + }, + { + "start": 2125.44, + "end": 2127.44, + "text": " No, you are very much a woman." + }, + { + "start": 2127.44, + "end": 2129.44, + "text": " You're just a showgirl sister, you know?" + }, + { + "start": 2129.44, + "end": 2132.4, + "text": " And I think that they deserve their own journey." + }, + { + "start": 2133.36, + "end": 2135.04, + "text": " Different to the Queen's on RuPaul's Drag Race." + }, + { + "start": 2137.28, + "end": 2138.4, + "text": " Love, love, love, Jackie." + }, + { + "start": 2138.4, + "end": 2139.2, + "text": " It's all water, guys." + }, + { + "start": 2139.2, + "end": 2140.88, + "text": " It's all you need to hide, right, babe?" + }, + { + "start": 2140.88, + "end": 2142.08, + "text": " That voice will turn into powder." + }, + { + "start": 2146.08, + "end": 2147.84, + "text": " Look, can drag change the world?" + }, + { + "start": 2148.8, + "end": 2149.76, + "text": " That's a big one." + }, + { + "start": 2149.76, + "end": 2150.16, + "text": " Jackie?" + }, + { + "start": 2151.68, + "end": 2152.4, + "text": " Yeah, maybe." + }, + { + "start": 2153.44, + "end": 2154.8, + "text": " I can't tell exactly how," + }, + { + "start": 2154.8, + "end": 2159.28, + "text": " but it's about reaching more broadly," + }, + { + "start": 2159.28, + "end": 2162.64, + "text": " trying to be non-judgmental, trying to be inclusive." + }, + { + "start": 2162.64, + "end": 2164.32, + "text": " If you said trying, that's the operative word." + }, + { + "start": 2164.32, + "end": 2165.28, + "text": " Yeah, you know?" + }, + { + "start": 2165.36, + "end": 2166.48, + "text": " So," + }, + { + "start": 2167.52, + "end": 2170.96, + "text": " yeah, we should have more drag queens in politics." + }, + { + "start": 2171.52, + "end": 2172.48, + "text": " You can't politics." + }, + { + "start": 2172.48, + "end": 2173.92, + "text": " Well, I think," + }, + { + "start": 2173.92, + "end": 2176.96, + "text": " every word, I think, we should have more drag queens everywhere." + }, + { + "start": 2176.96, + "end": 2179.44, + "text": " Bringing people together and making things a little more like heart," + }, + { + "start": 2179.44, + "end": 2180.5600000000004, + "text": " eardough." + }, + { + "start": 2180.5600000000004, + "end": 2185.44, + "text": " And I think it teaches you a lot of things about identity," + }, + { + "start": 2185.44, + "end": 2186.96, + "text": " forces you to be vulnerable." + }, + { + "start": 2186.96, + "end": 2188.96, + "text": " There's a vulnerability as well, I think, to drag." + }, + { + "start": 2189.52, + "end": 2190.7200000000003, + "text": " But also a power." + }, + { + "start": 2190.7200000000003, + "end": 2191.1200000000003, + "text": " Of course." + }, + { + "start": 2191.1200000000003, + 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"text": " Passing on a hard run." + }, + { + "start": 2211.2000000000003, + "end": 2214.32, + "text": " I think Cynthia Lee Fontaine identifies as bisexual." + }, + { + "start": 2215.04, + "end": 2217.52, + "text": " So, I think there's very few," + }, + { + "start": 2219.36, + "end": 2220.6400000000003, + "text": " but there have been a few." + }, + { + "start": 2220.6400000000003, + "end": 2221.28, + "text": " We've got one in our crew." + }, + { + "start": 2221.28, + "end": 2224.1600000000003, + "text": " We've actually got a married drag couple in our crew." + }, + { + "start": 2224.16, + "end": 2226.3999999999996, + "text": " We'll find it fanning me and cut and run with a Y." + }, + { + "start": 2226.3999999999996, + "end": 2227.04, + "text": " That's amazing." + }, + { + "start": 2227.04, + "end": 2227.6, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2227.6, + "end": 2228.56, + "text": " Yeah, they're far better." + }, + { + "start": 2228.56, + "end": 2229.2799999999997, + "text": " I 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2247.6, + "text": " we would not be in this pickle." + }, + { + "start": 2247.6, + "end": 2247.8399999999997, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2247.8399999999997, + "end": 2251.04, + "text": " With way, I think it's more than a fucking pickle, to be honest." + }, + { + "start": 2254.56, + "end": 2258.56, + "text": " Okay, look, what is your favourite ever drag performance" + }, + { + "start": 2258.56, + "end": 2261.12, + "text": " that you've seen, not on Rupel's Drag Race, just in life?" + }, + { + "start": 2261.8399999999997, + "end": 2264.7999999999997, + "text": " Oh, there's so many because I get to travel the world" + }, + { + "start": 2264.7999999999997, + "end": 2266.3999999999996, + "text": " and see them all over the place." + }, + { + "start": 2266.3999999999996, + "end": 2268.24, + "text": " Do you know some of my favourite ever drag performances?" + }, + { + "start": 2268.24, + "end": 2269.7599999999998, + "text": " I'm not just saying it because you're here." + }, + 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Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2288.7999999999997, + "end": 2290.4, + "text": " Good thing." + }, + { + "start": 2290.4, + "end": 2292.08, + "text": " I just remember watching that thinking," + }, + { + "start": 2292.08, + "end": 2293.68, + "text": " this is happening." + }, + { + "start": 2293.68, + "end": 2296.0, + "text": " Well, I've seen a lot of Christine like performance" + }, + { + "start": 2296.0, + "end": 2301.6, + "text": " is rolling around in some substances." + }, + { + "start": 2301.6, + "end": 2302.56, + "text": " Yeah, you see it." + }, + { + "start": 2302.56, + "end": 2303.6, + "text": " Yeah, just biscuits." + }, + { + "start": 2303.6, + "end": 2303.84, + "text": " Sure." + }, + { + "start": 2305.44, + "end": 2306.4, + "text": " I love those though." + }, + { + "start": 2306.4, + "end": 2307.68, + "text": " Me too, Li Barry." + }, + { + "start": 2307.68, + "end": 2309.04, + "text": " We are, oh, Li Barry." + }, + { + "start": 2309.04, + "end": 2311.36, + "text": " I 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watch it." + }, + { + "start": 2662.08, + "end": 2663.12, + "text": " Everybody's talking about Jamie." + }, + { + "start": 2663.12, + "end": 2664.64, + "text": " It's on to, are you on until the end of January?" + }, + { + "start": 2664.64, + "end": 2665.28, + "text": " January?" + }, + { + "start": 2665.28, + "end": 2665.76, + "text": " Exactly." + }, + { + "start": 2665.76, + "end": 2666.96, + "text": " You have to watch her." + }, + { + "start": 2666.96, + "end": 2668.32, + "text": " She's amazing." + }, + { + "start": 2668.32, + "end": 2669.2000000000003, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 2669.2000000000003, + "end": 2670.0, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 2670.0, + "end": 2670.8, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 2670.8, + "end": 2671.28, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 2671.28, + "end": 2672.48, + "text": " Let's fat the world up with drag, shall we?" + }, + { + "start": 2672.48, + "end": 2673.28, + "text": " Let's do it." + }, + { + 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+ "text": " But I think one of the things about podcasts that I really like" + }, + { + "start": 2704.1600000000003, + "end": 2707.6000000000004, + "text": " or a good podcast is that if they're good" + }, + { + "start": 2707.6, + "end": 2712.56, + "text": " and I like this one, even if you're not part of that subculture or niche," + }, + { + "start": 2712.56, + "end": 2714.96, + "text": " it's fascinating to listen to." + }, + { + "start": 2714.96, + "end": 2716.56, + "text": " Yeah, but niches can take over the world." + }, + { + "start": 2716.56, + "end": 2719.36, + "text": " I mean, look at how popular RuPaul's drag den." + }, + { + "start": 2719.36, + "end": 2720.4, + "text": " Right, right." + }, + { + "start": 2720.4, + "end": 2721.8399999999997, + "text": " No RuPaul's drag drag." + }, + { + "start": 2721.8399999999997, + "end": 2723.36, + "text": " They should call it RuPaul's drag queen." + }, + { + "start": 2723.36, + "end": 2726.24, + "text": " Look how popular RuPaul's 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Last May I met this guy. You said he had a same machine and took" + }, + { + "start": 110.8, + "end": 114.48, + "text": " boy cred off me. I'm still in 2080. Was that all about?" + }, + { + "start": 115.2, + "end": 117.44, + "text": " Hi Ray, I can't remember my Christmases." + }, + { + "start": 118.08, + "end": 121.92, + "text": " I think that's someone in the house. What did I do? Please Ray?" + }, + { + "start": 122.8, + "end": 127.36, + "text": " Hello Mr Moss, this doctor and I from the hospital. It's about your aim." + }, + { + "start": 128.07999999999998, + "end": 132.4, + "text": " This week, someone called Kaylee really stoked my mystery mojo." + }, + { + "start": 133.28, + "end": 139.12, + "text": " Hi Ray, my name is Kaylee and I'm calling because I've got a bit of a problem" + }, + { + "start": 139.12, + "end": 141.92000000000002, + "text": " that I was hoping you'd be able to help me out with." + }, + { + "start": 143.20000000000002, + "end": 152.56, + "text": " So basically, I have this really vague memory of being a child, watching television and seeing" + }, + { + "start": 152.56, + "end": 161.28, + "text": " the weatherman take his top off on live television. It's really troubling me because nobody I talk to" + }, + { + "start": 161.28, + "end": 166.56, + "text": " seems to remember this happening, but it's really stuck with me all these years that I can't" + }, + { + "start": 166.64000000000001, + "end": 171.36, + "text": " shake it out of my hand. So did it really happen?" + }, + { + "start": 180.16, + "end": 184.88, + "text": " From BBC Radio 1 and Doe's Fresh, this is Ray Moss, no stone unturned." + }, + { + "start": 186.0, + "end": 190.24, + "text": " If you've got a mystery, then like an old piece of bark in a damp forest," + }, + { + "start": 190.32000000000002, + "end": 191.92000000000002, + "text": " the Moss is all over it." + }, + { + "start": 196.16, + "end": 199.36, + "text": " Kaylee was doubting her own memory and that's never a nice feeling." + }, + { + "start": 199.36, + "end": 203.28, + "text": " Like when you wake up on the sofa at 4 a.m. covered in empty boxes of bakewell slices," + }, + { + "start": 203.28, + "end": 207.60000000000002, + "text": " that you have no memory of eating. I scraped Kaylee to find out more." + }, + { + "start": 208.08, + "end": 209.04000000000002, + "text": " Hello?" + }, + { + "start": 209.04000000000002, + "end": 211.20000000000002, + "text": " Hello, Kaylee, it's Ray Moss here." + }, + { + "start": 211.76000000000002, + "end": 214.88, + "text": " Oh, oh my god. Hi, Kaylee." + }, + { + "start": 215.68, + "end": 216.07999999999998, + "text": " Hi." + }, + { + "start": 216.07999999999998, + "end": 220.79999999999998, + "text": " I just heard your voice mail and I have to say I'm very interested in taking on your case." + }, + { + "start": 221.44, + "end": 223.51999999999998, + "text": " Brilliant. Wow, thank you." + }, + { + "start": 223.51999999999998, + "end": 228.72, + "text": " Yeah, now I just, could you just recap what exactly was it that you saw?" + }, + { + "start": 228.72, + "end": 234.56, + "text": " It sounds really weird, but I just have this memory of being a child, watching television and" + }, + { + "start": 235.76, + "end": 242.72, + "text": " the weatherman took his top off halfway through the programme and it's just really stayed with me." + }, + { + "start": 242.72, + "end": 243.2, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 243.2, + "end": 250.64, + "text": " The thing is, what worries me is if I've made that up, the weatherman taking his top off," + }, + { + "start": 250.64, + "end": 255.35999999999999, + "text": " what else have I made up? And it makes me question all my memories, you know, what if none of it has" + }, + { + "start": 255.35999999999999, + "end": 260.64, + "text": " happened actually? Did I have breakfast this morning? Did I go to Spain last year on holiday?" + }, + { + "start": 260.64, + "end": 263.68, + "text": " It's fundamental things like that that it's making me question." + }, + { + "start": 263.68, + "end": 266.64, + "text": " So Kaylee, did you go and hold it in Spain last year?" + }, + { + "start": 267.28, + "end": 268.15999999999997, + "text": " Yes, I did, yes." + }, + { + "start": 269.2, + "end": 270.24, + "text": " Right, so that one's sorted." + }, + { + "start": 270.88, + "end": 277.76, + "text": " Oh, sorry. It's just, you know, it's really worrying." + }, + { + "start": 277.76, + "end": 282.48, + "text": " Is there any other information you've got that can help me on my path to finding out the truth?" + }, + { + "start": 283.44, + "end": 286.96000000000004, + "text": " Not really, I mean, have you got a date? Can you tell me when it happened?" + }, + { + "start": 286.96000000000004, + "end": 290.24, + "text": " Mid-90s is the best. I can give you really." + }, + { + "start": 290.64, + "end": 290.96000000000004, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 293.28000000000003, + "end": 298.64, + "text": " The only thing, and I mean, this sounds really weird as well, but I have this image of something." + }, + { + "start": 298.64, + "end": 302.4, + "text": " I think it must have been the programme beforehand where it was a vicar," + }, + { + "start": 303.03999999999996, + "end": 305.76, + "text": " yet a vicar being killed by a crab." + }, + { + "start": 306.8, + "end": 309.12, + "text": " Right. Was this a new story?" + }, + { + "start": 309.91999999999996, + "end": 314.96, + "text": " No, no, it was a drama or a programme, and that was the end." + }, + { + "start": 314.96, + "end": 317.03999999999996, + "text": " It was a vicar being killed by a crab." + }, + { + "start": 318.0, + "end": 320.64, + "text": " Okay, well that gives me something to go off. Thank you very much, Kaylee." + }, + { + "start": 321.12, + "end": 321.68, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 321.68, + "end": 323.91999999999996, + "text": " And don't you worry, because I'm going to get to the bottom with this for you." + }, + { + "start": 323.91999999999996, + "end": 324.56, + "text": " Don't you worry." + }, + { + "start": 324.56, + "end": 326.8, + "text": " Right, thank you so much. Thank you, Ray." + }, + { + "start": 329.36, + "end": 335.84, + "text": " We live in a world of information, emails, texts, phones, magazines, talking," + }, + { + "start": 335.84, + "end": 340.08, + "text": " train announcements, the ingredients on a packet of crisps, post it notes," + }, + { + "start": 340.08, + "end": 341.91999999999996, + "text": " things written on the side of a van," + }, + { + "start": 341.91999999999996, + "end": 346.15999999999997, + "text": " Hindu t-shirts, leaflets, tancries, shampoo adverts," + }, + { + "start": 348.15999999999997, + "end": 350.24, + "text": " and more recently, the internet." + }, + { + "start": 351.76, + "end": 355.2, + "text": " Surely if a weatherman had partially needed himself live on television," + }, + { + "start": 355.2, + "end": 357.12, + "text": " a clip of it would be on the internet somewhere." + }, + { + "start": 357.36, + "end": 360.8, + "text": " I knew I was going to have to log on, and fast." + }, + { + "start": 360.8, + "end": 364.08, + "text": " I high-tailed it to the library where the local librarian Sue" + }, + { + "start": 364.08, + "end": 365.76, + "text": " led me into the computer zone." + }, + { + "start": 365.76, + "end": 369.28000000000003, + "text": " She was up to date with all things tech, and within a quarter of an hour," + }, + { + "start": 369.28000000000003, + "end": 373.84000000000003, + "text": " I had a guest ID, I was booted up, logged on, and was, and I believe this is the lingo," + }, + { + "start": 373.84000000000003, + "end": 375.52, + "text": " information surfing." + }, + { + "start": 375.52, + "end": 380.08, + "text": " But there was nothing, not even a mention of it." + }, + { + "start": 380.08, + "end": 381.52, + "text": " Very strange." + }, + { + "start": 381.52, + "end": 385.92, + "text": " Then I thought about what Kaylee had told me about the vicar being killed by a crab." + }, + { + "start": 386.08000000000004, + "end": 388.64000000000004, + "text": " A vicar being killed by a crab." + }, + { + "start": 388.64000000000004, + "end": 398.56, + "text": " Crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab, crab." + }, + { + "start": 400.56, + "end": 404.88, + "text": " A bit more info-surfing turned up, that it was a major storyline in crab beach," + }, + { + "start": 404.88, + "end": 408.40000000000003, + "text": " the short-lived soap opera about a small Australian town, where the attractive" + }, + { + "start": 408.40000000000003, + "end": 412.32, + "text": " residents struggle with life, love, and thousands of dangerous crabs." + }, + { + "start": 413.12, + "end": 417.2, + "text": " One of the best known episodes was one of which Brad, the dreamy beach vicar," + }, + { + "start": 417.2, + "end": 419.36, + "text": " was fatally attacked by a crab." + }, + { + "start": 423.92, + "end": 425.04, + "text": " I really got me." + }, + { + "start": 426.0, + "end": 428.0, + "text": " Did you remember on the face, little bugger?" + }, + { + "start": 430.96, + "end": 433.68, + "text": " I wish I'd never moved to crab beach in the first place." + }, + { + "start": 435.76, + "end": 437.2, + "text": " Why don't you make crabs, God?" + }, + { + "start": 439.03999999999996, + "end": 439.44, + "text": " Why?" + }, + { + "start": 442.56, + "end": 453.36, + "text": " It was shown in the UK at 5.30pm on the 3rd of November 1995, as they say in Vegas," + }, + { + "start": 453.36, + "end": 456.64, + "text": " Bingo. That's when the weather management must have happened." + }, + { + "start": 457.28, + "end": 461.44, + "text": " I found the number of the archive department of the BBC, who keep tapes of every weather report" + }, + { + "start": 461.44, + "end": 466.24, + "text": " ever broadcast. With this date, I could track down the tape and clear this up for good." + }, + { + "start": 466.88, + "end": 470.64, + "text": " I called the BBC, and just like any high-level investigative detective would do," + }, + { + "start": 471.28, + "end": 472.56, + "text": " I went undercover." + }, + { + "start": 474.08, + "end": 474.88, + "text": " Hello BBC archives." + }, + { + "start": 474.88, + "end": 480.56, + "text": " Hello! Brian McSimmons here. I'm making a documentary, and I would like to see..." + }, + { + "start": 480.56, + "end": 482.71999999999997, + "text": " Are you putting on a Scottish accent?" + }, + { + "start": 484.15999999999997, + "end": 484.8, + "text": " Yes!" + }, + { + "start": 485.76, + "end": 487.84, + "text": " Right. Are you really making a documentary?" + }, + { + "start": 488.8, + "end": 489.03999999999996, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 490.0, + "end": 490.8, + "text": " What are you doing?" + }, + { + "start": 491.12, + "end": 494.96, + "text": " I'm making an investigative journalism podcast for the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 494.96, + "end": 496.64, + "text": " Right. Would you say that then?" + }, + { + "start": 498.08, + "end": 498.8, + "text": " Right, I'll call back." + }, + { + "start": 500.8, + "end": 502.08, + "text": " BEEP BEEP BEEP" + }, + { + "start": 502.8, + "end": 504.08, + "text": " Hello BBC archives." + }, + { + "start": 504.08, + "end": 505.76, + "text": " Hello! My name is Ray Moss." + }, + { + "start": 505.76, + "end": 506.24, + "text": " Yep." + }, + { + "start": 506.8, + "end": 508.0, + "text": " The guy from before, right?" + }, + { + "start": 508.0, + "end": 508.4, + "text": " Yep." + }, + { + "start": 508.4, + "end": 511.59999999999997, + "text": " Okay, I'm looking for a specific weather report." + }, + { + "start": 511.59999999999997, + "end": 516.24, + "text": " It's from the 3rd of November 1995 on BBC One. Have you got those in the archive?" + }, + { + "start": 516.24, + "end": 517.92, + "text": " Yeah, I'm just going to put you in hold on a little log book." + }, + { + "start": 524.88, + "end": 525.68, + "text": " Hello, hi." + }, + { + "start": 525.68, + "end": 526.4, + "text": " Hello?" + }, + { + "start": 526.48, + "end": 531.68, + "text": " Yep, I've got the log book here. It says it was signed out 10 years ago and never returned." + }, + { + "start": 532.56, + "end": 535.12, + "text": " Right, so it's not in the archive." + }, + { + "start": 535.12, + "end": 536.0799999999999, + "text": " It's not in the archive, no." + }, + { + "start": 536.88, + "end": 542.9599999999999, + "text": " Okay. Do you have any records that would say who was presenting the weather on that day?" + }, + { + "start": 542.9599999999999, + "end": 544.16, + "text": " That would be really helpful." + }, + { + "start": 544.16, + "end": 548.4, + "text": " I can get you that information, but it does take six weeks for them to get back to us." + }, + { + "start": 549.4399999999999, + "end": 550.0, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 550.56, + "end": 554.88, + "text": " However, we have had a software change recently, which means I can get you that information immediately." + }, + { + "start": 554.88, + "end": 556.0, + "text": " Oh, great!" + }, + { + "start": 556.48, + "end": 559.12, + "text": " However, we have had a server problem in the virus' core." + }, + { + "start": 559.12, + "end": 561.76, + "text": " Our computers, so all our information has been destroyed." + }, + { + "start": 563.12, + "end": 565.68, + "text": " Right, so you can't get that information for me." + }, + { + "start": 565.68, + "end": 567.52, + "text": " So we can't get that information for you, that's correct." + }, + { + "start": 568.24, + "end": 568.72, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + "start": 569.76, + "end": 573.4399999999999, + "text": " Well, thanks for being so helpful so far." + }, + { + "start": 574.16, + "end": 578.56, + "text": " Hang on, is there a name on the log book that says who signed out the video 10 years ago?" + }, + { + "start": 578.56, + "end": 579.4399999999999, + "text": " Can you tell me that?" + }, + { + "start": 579.4399999999999, + "end": 580.4, + "text": " I can have a look." + }, + { + "start": 580.4, + "end": 581.4399999999999, + "text": " Just give me a s-" + }, + { + "start": 581.4399999999999, + "end": 582.0, + "text": " Hello?" + }, + { + "start": 583.1999999999999, + "end": 583.6, + "text": " Hello?" + }, + { + "start": 584.96, + "end": 585.1999999999999, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 587.36, + "end": 589.76, + "text": " I tried calling back, but the line was dead." + }, + { + "start": 589.76, + "end": 592.8, + "text": " Curiouser and curiouser thought Ray." + }, + { + "start": 593.52, + "end": 594.72, + "text": " That's me, Ray Moss." + }, + { + "start": 594.72, + "end": 597.28, + "text": " I was going to have to switch up my tactics." + }, + { + "start": 602.48, + "end": 606.24, + "text": " Like everyone, I find all of history incredibly boring," + }, + { + "start": 606.24, + "end": 609.84, + "text": " apart from World War II, which was basically a real-life action film." + }, + { + "start": 609.84, + "end": 612.56, + "text": " Also, the only sequel that's better than the first one." + }, + { + "start": 612.56, + "end": 616.0799999999999, + "text": " But just because it's boring doesn't mean it isn't useful from time to time." + }, + { + "start": 617.36, + "end": 618.56, + "text": " Hello." + }, + { + "start": 618.56, + "end": 622.16, + "text": " My name is Thomas Frenton, and I'm a television historian." + }, + { + "start": 622.16, + "end": 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Did he still have it?" + }, + { + "start": 1641.1200000000001, + "end": 1646.16, + "text": " I was spoken to the BBC, Charles, and that's how I came to found you, because your name is" + }, + { + "start": 1646.72, + "end": 1653.2, + "text": " written in the logbook for taking out the VHS copy of the archive of that weather report. So, I assume" + }, + { + "start": 1654.16, + "end": 1660.56, + "text": " did you still have it? I do have that tape. I did take that tape. I've never quite been able to" + }, + { + "start": 1660.56, + "end": 1667.3600000000001, + "text": " bring myself to destroy it or, or bear it, or do you ever watch it, Charles? No, I've never watched it." + }, + { + "start": 1667.3600000000001, + "end": 1673.44, + "text": " I can't watch it with me now, Charles. I don't. I don't even know if this VHS player works." + }, + { + "start": 1674.0800000000002, + "end": 1677.52, + "text": " It's had an under siege in it for the last 20 years. 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I have everything I need." + }, + { + "start": 1831.28, + "end": 1836.08, + "text": " Even here, you know, getting work has been difficult, but to be surprised what people drop in a" + }, + { + "start": 1836.08, + "end": 1841.6799999999998, + "text": " multi-story car park really, and you'd be surprised what you can live off if you really show a bit of grit." + }, + { + "start": 1842.8799999999999, + "end": 1846.96, + "text": " I left Charles eating an old piece of ham he found on the floor and skyped Caley." + }, + { + "start": 1847.44, + "end": 1851.36, + "text": " Hello. Hi, Caley. It's Ray Moss here. Hi, Ray." + }, + { + "start": 1852.48, + "end": 1858.6399999999999, + "text": " Good news. Uh-huh. I've got to the bottom of it. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm asking. Are you ready?" + }, + { + "start": 1859.44, + "end": 1864.64, + "text": " Yes. So you weren't imagining it at all. It really did happen." + }, + { + "start": 1865.68, + "end": 1871.3600000000001, + "text": " Wow. 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You've changed my life and blown my mind. No problem, Caley. And I have to say," + }, + { + "start": 1912.72, + "end": 1917.92, + "text": " this is a bittersweet one for me. Yes, I could help Caley, but nothing changes the fact that my" + }, + { + "start": 1917.92, + "end": 1922.56, + "text": " friend, and yes, I do know, count him as a friend, Charles built and formerly Jonathan Emory," + }, + { + "start": 1922.56, + "end": 1927.52, + "text": " where the man did nothing more than tried to save his local reservoir. And as a result," + }, + { + "start": 1927.52, + "end": 1932.56, + "text": " now lives in a van and relieves himself into the coin slot of a vending machine. But at least now," + }, + { + "start": 1932.56, + "end": 1937.92, + "text": " he does have a friend. And sometimes when you're pissing an vending machine, you just need someone" + }, + { + "start": 1937.92, + "end": 1943.3600000000001, + "text": " to hold the flap open for you. I also want to let you know that in solidarity with Charles" + }, + { + "start": 1943.3600000000001, + "end": 1949.44, + "text": " built and I'm making these closing comments with my top off. I admit, on a podcast, it feels like" + }, + { + "start": 1949.44, + "end": 1960.96, + "text": " an empty gesture, but there you go. So until next time, remember, if you see a stone, turn it over." + }, + { + "start": 1960.96, + "end": 1962.48, + "text": " You never know what you'll find under there." + }, + { + "start": 1968.0800000000002, + "end": 1975.92, + "text": " Hello, thanks for listening to Rain Moss, No Stone and Turned. Okay, here's the thing." + }, + { + "start": 1976.8000000000002, + "end": 1982.48, + "text": " I've been talking to some of the big cheeses in the BBC, and they were talking about their" + }, + { + "start": 1982.48, + "end": 1991.68, + "text": " expectations for how many times this podcast will get downloaded. And one of the benchmark figures" + }, + { + "start": 1991.68, + "end": 1997.2, + "text": " for them that they kept coming out with was there weren't as many people to hear this podcast as" + }, + { + "start": 1997.2, + "end": 2007.76, + "text": " have watched the movie Marley and Me. A hugely unrealistic, that's a beloved movie watched by" + }, + { + "start": 2008.48, + "end": 2014.0800000000002, + "text": " several hundreds of millions of people across the world. So if you did enjoy it," + }, + { + "start": 2014.8, + "end": 2019.52, + "text": " do tell a friend, do write a review on where if you get your your podcast from, do subscribe." + }, + { + "start": 2019.6, + "end": 2025.2, + "text": " I'm on the computer now to see how many people have watched Marley and Me." + }, + { + "start": 2030.6399999999999, + "end": 2036.72, + "text": " Okay, Marley, Me is 2008 American Comedy Film about the titular dog, Marley." + }, + { + "start": 2039.36, + "end": 2045.6, + "text": " Okay, well, it hasn't got specific numbers, but it says that it made $247.8 million at the box" + }, + { + "start": 2045.76, + "end": 2049.52, + "text": " of this. I mean, you don't make that sort of money without plenty of people seeing it." + }, + { + "start": 2050.72, + "end": 2056.24, + "text": " The film was followed in a 2011 director video prequel, Marley and Me, The Puppy Years." + }, + { + "start": 2057.2, + "end": 2063.04, + "text": " Okay, and like the original film, Marley has given a speaking voice. That's a terrible idea." + }, + { + "start": 2064.72, + "end": 2070.3199999999997, + "text": " Okay, so maybe if we can get as many people listening to this as have watched the Marley and Me" + }, + { + "start": 2070.4, + "end": 2077.04, + "text": " prequel, that'll be enough for the the headhound shows at BBC HQ. So," + }, + { + "start": 2078.0800000000004, + "end": 2086.1600000000003, + "text": " writer of you, subscribe, tweet about it, Facebook, Instagram, tell one of your extended family." + }, + { + "start": 2087.28, + "end": 2088.0, + "text": " You know what to do." + }, + { + "start": 2092.7200000000003, + "end": 2096.56, + "text": " That was Ray Moss, No Stone, unturned. If you like that, you want to hear them all." + }, + { + "start": 2096.56, + "end": 2105.92, + "text": " You'll want to subscribe to Radio One's new comedy podcast feed called Kanch. That's spelled K-E-N-C-H." + }, + { + "start": 2106.64, + "end": 2114.48, + "text": " Now, I looked this word up and all I could find was a definition that said it means a box or bin for" + }, + { + "start": 2114.48, + "end": 2119.2, + "text": " salting fish. 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or call 888-372-4483." + }, + { + "start": 1690.28, + "end": 1694.32, + "text": " We appreciate you listening to Everyday Tech here on MPB Think Radio with myself, Abram" + }, + { + "start": 1694.32, + "end": 1697.4, + "text": " Nanny and with Saberabdel Huck and Shane Chisholm." + }, + { + "start": 1697.4, + "end": 1702.2, + "text": " If you have questions for us at any time, email the show at Everyday Tech at MPBOnline.org." + }, + { + "start": 1702.2, + "end": 1707.44, + "text": " So moving on from some of the quote unquote typical remote work talk, what are the advantages" + }, + { + "start": 1707.44, + "end": 1711.4, + "text": " of remote work for people who may be sort of atypical workers?" + }, + { + "start": 1711.4, + "end": 1716.0800000000002, + "text": " Of course by that, I mean someone who has a disability or severely struggles socially." + }, + { + "start": 1716.0800000000002, + "end": 1718.16, + "text": " That's a great question." + }, + { + "start": 1718.16, + "end": 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Very helpful." + }, + { + "start": 1612.36, + "end": 1615.36, + "text": " Right. Let's open it up to all our guests here." + }, + { + "start": 1615.36, + "end": 1623.36, + "text": " We've got some microphones. They'll come, put your hands up. They'll come and find you. We've got, yes. Go for it. Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 1623.36, + "end": 1626.36, + "text": " Good evening. Alice Benting from Entrepreneur First." + }, + { + "start": 1626.36, + "end": 1630.36, + "text": " Thank you for a fascinating conversation. I suppose a question for each of you." + }, + { + "start": 1630.36, + "end": 1635.36, + "text": " And Prime Minister, the UK has some of the best universities in the world. We have the talent." + }, + { + "start": 1635.36, + "end": 1641.36, + "text": " What will it take for the UK to be a real breeding ground for unicorn companies?" + }, + { + "start": 1641.36, + "end": 1648.36, + "text": " And Elon, being a founder in the UK is still a non-obvious career choice for the most exceptional, technical talent." + }, + { + "start": 1648.36, + "end": 1652.36, + "text": " What are the cultural elements that we need to put into place to change this?" + }, + { + "start": 1652.36, + "end": 1653.36, + "text": " Thank you, Bo." + }, + { + "start": 1653.36, + "end": 1655.36, + "text": " You want to go first? Go for it." + }, + { + "start": 1655.36, + "end": 1665.36, + "text": " Sure. 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And practically the only way of able to tell is that the grandma is too good." + }, + { + "start": 2864.36, + "end": 2866.36, + "text": " Take a boy." + }, + { + "start": 2866.36, + "end": 2868.36, + "text": " No typos? Come on." + }, + { + "start": 2868.36, + "end": 2871.36, + "text": " Now I'm getting wavedack, because I think we are out of time." + }, + { + "start": 2871.36, + "end": 2875.36, + "text": " I don't we take one very brief last question and let's make a go on." + }, + { + "start": 2875.36, + "end": 2878.36, + "text": " Yes sir, go on your right in front of me." + }, + { + "start": 2878.36, + "end": 2880.36, + "text": " Thank you very much." + }, + { + "start": 2880.36, + "end": 2882.36, + "text": " You have a question for you." + }, + { + "start": 2882.36, + "end": 2884.36, + "text": " Related to the X platform." + }, + { + "start": 2884.36, + "end": 2887.36, + "text": " Are there simple things we can do, especially when it comes to visual media." + }, + { + "start": 2887.36, + "end": 2895.36, + "text": " You alluded to the fact that it's fairly short forward and effectively free to make people like yourself say and do things that you never said or did." + }, + { + "start": 2895.36, + 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"text": " There you go." + }, + { + "start": 2958.36, + "end": 2960.36, + "text": " Massive news." + }, + { + "start": 2960.36, + "end": 2966.36, + "text": " And actually, you've got just an enormous chunk of the world's population is voting next year." + }, + { + "start": 2966.36, + "end": 2967.36, + "text": " Right?" + }, + { + "start": 2967.36, + "end": 2969.36, + "text": " And you got EU elections as well." + }, + { + "start": 2969.36, + "end": 2973.36, + "text": " You know, as you just, these issues are right in front of us." + }, + { + "start": 2973.36, + "end": 2978.36, + "text": " Next year is where big elections across the globe, probably the first set of elections where this has been a real issue." + }, + { + "start": 2978.36, + "end": 2987.36, + "text": " So, figuring out how we manage that is, I think, kind of mission critical for the people who want, you know, your integrity of our democracy." + }, + { + "start": 2987.36, + "end": 2988.36, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + 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So..." + }, + { + "start": 418.76, + "end": 424.76, + "text": " As long as I don't prevent you from protecting anyone, you have to do as I say." + }, + { + "start": 424.76, + "end": 426.76, + "text": " Correct." + }, + { + "start": 426.76, + "end": 428.76, + "text": " Drone, please pick up VO gently." + }, + { + "start": 428.76, + "end": 434.76, + "text": " You're going to follow me and carry her to someone who can give her medical attention." + }, + { + "start": 434.76, + "end": 436.76, + "text": " No conflicts there, correct?" + }, + { + "start": 436.76, + "end": 438.76, + "text": " None. This drone..." + }, + { + "start": 438.76, + "end": 440.76, + "text": " Is happy to comply." + }, + { + "start": 440.76, + "end": 442.76, + "text": " Good." + }, + { + "start": 442.76, + "end": 444.76, + "text": " Now, just follow me." + }, + { + "start": 444.76, + "end": 446.76, + "text": " Drone." + }, + { + "start": 446.76, + "end": 448.76, + "text": " Drone." + }, + { + "start": 448.76, + "end": 450.76, + "text": " Drone." + }, + { + "start": 450.76, + "end": 452.76, + "text": " Drone." + }, + { + "start": 452.76, + "end": 454.76, + "text": " Drone." + }, + { + "start": 454.76, + "end": 456.76, + "text": " Drone." + }, + { + "start": 456.76, + "end": 458.76, + "text": " Drone." + }, + { + "start": 458.76, + "end": 460.76, + "text": " Officer Pax reporting." + }, + { + "start": 460.76, + "end": 464.76, + "text": " Where is my drone?" + }, + { + "start": 464.76, + "end": 468.76, + "text": " Sir, we are attempting to track down the package as we speak." + }, + { + "start": 468.76, + "end": 470.76, + "text": " We were ambushed." + }, + { + "start": 470.76, + "end": 472.76, + "text": " Hello?" + }, + { + "start": 472.76, + "end": 478.76, + "text": " This is I'm Risa Angelio for HCN News reporting live on the firefight happening near the 95 overpass." + }, + { + "start": 478.76, + "end": 480.76, + "text": " It is a war zone out here." + }, + { + "start": 480.76, + "end": 482.76, + "text": " Oh, I can see what happened." + }, + { + "start": 482.76, + "end": 488.76, + "text": " How were you so fucking unprepared?" + }, + { + "start": 488.76, + "end": 492.76, + "text": " The plan in case something like this happened," + }, + { + "start": 492.76, + "end": 496.76, + "text": " included the idea that the police would be able to provide support." + }, + { + "start": 496.76, + "end": 498.76, + "text": " The police would have been bombed." + }, + { + "start": 498.76, + "end": 500.76, + "text": " I'm bringing them for report on that now." + }, + { + "start": 502.76, + "end": 504.76, + "text": " Damn, that is a mess." + }, + { + "start": 504.76, + "end": 506.76, + "text": " 58 officers now confirmed dead," + }, + { + "start": 506.76, + "end": 508.76, + "text": " but the number is expected to increase" + }, + { + "start": 508.76, + "end": 510.76, + "text": " if the rubble is still being searched." + }, + { + "start": 510.76, + "end": 512.76, + "text": " Hold on, just a moment." + }, + { + "start": 512.76, + "end": 514.76, + "text": " I told you about that." + }, + { + "start": 514.76, + "end": 516.76, + "text": " I didn't see a recording of it." + }, + { + "start": 516.76, + "end": 520.76, + "text": " My voice is their intellectual property to remix however they want." + }, + { + "start": 520.76, + "end": 524.76, + "text": " Do you want to know how often I have to listen to myself say things that I've never said before?" + }, + { + "start": 524.76, + "end": 528.76, + "text": " No, no, that is alright." + }, + { + "start": 530.76, + "end": 532.76, + "text": " We are currently looking over at the dogs." + }, + { + "start": 532.76, + "end": 536.76, + "text": " The harbor master here has allowed us to look through his logs." + }, + { + "start": 536.76, + "end": 538.76, + "text": " Just be quick about it. I got things to do." + }, + { + "start": 546.76, + "end": 550.76, + "text": " Looks like the last ship out of here was about an hour ago." + }, + { + "start": 550.76, + "end": 552.76, + "text": " Next one's doing about an hour." + }, + { + "start": 552.76, + "end": 554.76, + "text": " You're lucky it's such a slow day." + }, + { + "start": 554.76, + "end": 556.76, + "text": " Usually it doesn't go in and out every hour." + }, + { + "start": 556.76, + "end": 558.76, + "text": " Review the security footage." + }, + { + "start": 558.76, + "end": 562.76, + "text": " If my drone is on a ship already out at sea," + }, + { + "start": 562.76, + "end": 564.76, + "text": " you could have my order." + }, + { + "start": 564.76, + "end": 568.76, + "text": " If it is, then searching for it could take weeks." + }, + { + "start": 568.76, + "end": 570.76, + "text": " If not months." + }, + { + "start": 572.76, + "end": 574.76, + "text": " Find my drone." + }, + { + "start": 574.76, + "end": 576.76, + "text": " Yes sir." + }, + { + "start": 576.76, + "end": 578.76, + "text": " Yes sir." + }, + { + "start": 578.76, + "end": 582.76, + "text": " It's going to take us a while to look through all their footage." + }, + { + "start": 582.76, + "end": 584.76, + "text": " We don't only have to look at the boats themselves," + }, + { + "start": 584.76, + "end": 588.76, + "text": " but also at the shipping containers that it could have been stashed into." + }, + { + "start": 588.76, + "end": 594.76, + "text": " I don't suppose you're willing to shut down the port until we can get enough people here to search all the boats." + }, + { + "start": 594.76, + "end": 596.76, + "text": " Are you out of your goddamn mind?" + }, + { + "start": 596.76, + "end": 600.76, + "text": " Do you have any idea what that would do to our schedule?" + }, + { + "start": 600.76, + "end": 602.76, + "text": " I'd fight you even if your cops were the warrant." + }, + { + "start": 602.76, + "end": 604.76, + "text": " With the police station on fire." + }, + { + "start": 604.76, + "end": 608.76, + "text": " I don't think you're going to get one of those at any fucking times soon." + }, + { + "start": 608.76, + "end": 610.76, + "text": " Yeah, yeah, sorry, fair enough." + }, + { + "start": 610.76, + "end": 614.76, + "text": " We could forward the videos back to the office." + }, + { + "start": 614.76, + "end": 616.76, + "text": " They could pour through them quickly enough." + }, + { + "start": 616.76, + "end": 620.76, + "text": " The thing is, security on the docks themselves is really tight." + }, + { + "start": 620.76, + "end": 624.76, + "text": " Plenty of different cameras, most of it closed analog systems," + }, + { + "start": 624.76, + "end": 628.76, + "text": " so they can't be remotely hacked into, at least as far as I know." + }, + { + "start": 628.76, + "end": 632.76, + "text": " Anyone going on to a boat has to go through not only the boat's security," + }, + { + "start": 632.76, + "end": 634.76, + "text": " but the harbour security too." + }, + { + "start": 634.76, + "end": 640.76, + "text": " Well, I mean these people blew up a police station and killed a bunch of cops just to get this drone." + }, + { + "start": 640.76, + "end": 643.76, + "text": " You don't think they are capable of getting into a ship?" + }, + { + "start": 643.76, + "end": 645.76, + "text": " Capable? Sure, I believe it." + }, + { + "start": 645.76, + "end": 648.76, + "text": " I just think it'll leave too big of a footprint." + }, + { + "start": 648.76, + "end": 650.76, + "text": " They certainly would know that they're being trapped." + }, + { + "start": 650.76, + "end": 652.76, + "text": " All right, I'm listening." + }, + { + "start": 652.76, + "end": 654.76, + "text": " What are you thinking?" + }, + { + "start": 654.76, + "end": 658.76, + "text": " If I were a betting woman, I would start searching there." + }, + { + "start": 658.76, + "end": 664.76, + "text": " The service tunnel into the sewers." + }, + { + "start": 664.76, + "end": 669.76, + "text": " The dock is one of the only places with sewer access big enough to drive a truck into." + }, + { + "start": 669.76, + "end": 671.76, + "text": " And the ships provide misdirection." + }, + { + "start": 671.76, + "end": 674.76, + "text": " You know, get far enough underground. They won't even need to keep her in the truck." + }, + { + "start": 674.76, + "end": 677.76, + "text": " The GPS signal should be blocked by the earth, right?" + }, + { + "start": 677.76, + "end": 679.76, + "text": " They're an out-companist point of that way." + }, + { + "start": 679.76, + "end": 681.76, + "text": " Never thought we'd need this." + }, + { + "start": 681.76, + "end": 684.76, + "text": " Yeah. Yeah, you're right." + }, + { + "start": 684.76, + "end": 687.76, + "text": " We still have to have the videos looked into just in case you're wrong," + }, + { + "start": 687.76, + "end": 691.76, + "text": " but it is what I would have done in their position." + }, + { + "start": 691.76, + "end": 694.76, + "text": " You two are not really thinking of going down there." + }, + { + "start": 694.76, + "end": 695.76, + "text": " Are you?" + }, + { + "start": 695.76, + "end": 697.76, + "text": " Oh, Pety, don't worry." + }, + { + "start": 697.76, + "end": 701.76, + "text": " I will make you go into the big, bad, scary sewer." + }, + { + "start": 701.76, + "end": 705.76, + "text": " You stay behind and upload the videos to the nerds back in the office." + }, + { + "start": 705.76, + "end": 708.76, + "text": " Okay, you could be a waste of time if you're wrong." + }, + { + "start": 708.76, + "end": 711.76, + "text": " You're worse. Really dangerous down there if you're right." + }, + { + "start": 711.76, + "end": 713.76, + "text": " I'll be fine, Pete. Really." + }, + { + "start": 713.76, + "end": 717.76, + "text": " It wouldn't be my first dead end lead if that's the way it goes." + }, + { + "start": 717.76, + "end": 721.76, + "text": " And if it's dangerous, I have Zappi Von Ninja pants here to protect me." + }, + { + "start": 721.76, + "end": 725.76, + "text": " Zappi Von Ninja pants reporting for duty, ma'am." + }, + { + "start": 725.76, + "end": 727.76, + "text": " You alright handling those videos, Pete?" + }, + { + "start": 727.76, + "end": 729.76, + "text": " Yeah, I can do my part." + }, + { + "start": 729.76, + "end": 730.76, + "text": " Alright." + }, + { + "start": 730.76, + "end": 731.76, + "text": " Ready to go?" + }, + { + "start": 731.76, + "end": 732.76, + "text": " I am." + }, + { + "start": 732.76, + "end": 735.76, + "text": " Take care, Pete. 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It's often used on webpages." + }, + { + "start": 34.32, + "end": 41.12, + "text": " For example, on the United Storm Center, we have these little icons on the left that are encoded" + }, + { + "start": 41.12, + "end": 48.879999999999995, + "text": " as SVG. The advantage of SVG is that because it's a vector format, it scales nicely." + }, + { + "start": 48.879999999999995, + "end": 56.56, + "text": " It can also easily be embedded in a web page so you don't need to load additional files." + }, + { + "start": 56.88, + "end": 63.6, + "text": " But attackers apparently are using these images in order to bypass detection rules." + }, + { + "start": 64.4, + "end": 72.16, + "text": " In addition, SVG may embed JavaScript and that's being abused here in order to pull in the" + }, + { + "start": 72.16, + "end": 80.72, + "text": " company's logo from a web service that offers company logos based on their domain name." + }, + { + "start": 80.72, + "end": 86.8, + "text": " So if an attack is targeting a particular individual, then the domain name of the email address" + }, + { + "start": 86.8, + "end": 93.52, + "text": " is being used to display that company's logo, which of course makes the attack more plausible." + }, + { + "start": 93.52, + "end": 101.92, + "text": " Has seen similar things in the past on other fishing emails without SVG, but yes, the main point here" + }, + { + "start": 101.92, + "end": 109.6, + "text": " of SVG is to bypass detection rules, not really to launch any fundamentally different attack." + }, + { + "start": 110.96, + "end": 117.12, + "text": " And in today's weaknesses in enterprise security tools, we have a little bit of a minor issue" + }, + { + "start": 117.12, + "end": 126.4, + "text": " in the 40-clined VPN. The issue here is logging. If an attacker launches a brute force attack with" + }, + { + "start": 126.4, + "end": 134.88, + "text": " 40-clined, the failed login attempts are usually logged and that's good. So, but you also want to" + }, + { + "start": 135.6, + "end": 143.68, + "text": " successful login events. And the problem here is that there is a two-stage process for the login" + }, + { + "start": 143.68, + "end": 149.6, + "text": " and that's not bad. You first authenticate the credentials, then you check if the user actually" + }, + { + "start": 149.6, + "end": 157.6, + "text": " has access. And after both stages are successfully passed, the successful login is logged." + }, + { + "start": 157.6, + "end": 164.56, + "text": " The trick here is that an attacker may stop the process after the authentication stage." + }, + { + "start": 164.56, + "end": 171.44, + "text": " So the attacker then knows that the credentials are valid, but is not completely logged in yet," + }, + { + "start": 171.44, + "end": 179.51999999999998, + "text": " has not gotten past the access control stage yet. And as a result, the successful attempt is not logged." + }, + { + "start": 179.51999999999998, + "end": 186.16, + "text": " This is a problem for defenders because they don't know now that the attacker is aware of having" + }, + { + "start": 186.16, + "end": 191.84, + "text": " valid credentials for this particular user. They could come later and directly use them from" + }, + { + "start": 191.84, + "end": 199.04, + "text": " a different IT address, so you would not associate that successful login with the brute force attack." + }, + { + "start": 199.04, + "end": 204.0, + "text": " But if you look at it, a bigger picture you probably should first implement multi-factor" + }, + { + "start": 204.0, + "end": 209.68, + "text": " authentication before worrying about the details of logging, brute force attacks." + }, + { + "start": 210.16, + "end": 215.36, + "text": " And just if you're excited about the talk about Palo Alto vulnerabilities," + }, + { + "start": 215.36, + "end": 222.24, + "text": " quite a bit lately, it turns out that according to some reports, now about 2000 of these Palo Alto" + }, + { + "start": 222.24, + "end": 229.04000000000002, + "text": " systems have been compromised. At this point, you should certainly assume compromise if you are" + }, + { + "start": 229.04000000000002, + "end": 239.20000000000002, + "text": " finding an unpatched Palo Alto system. And qualis published advisory with details regarding an" + }, + { + "start": 239.2, + "end": 247.35999999999999, + "text": " interesting vulnerability in the Linux neat restart script. Need restart is being executed if you" + }, + { + "start": 247.35999999999999, + "end": 256.0, + "text": " install or update software. As the name need restart implies, the tool then checks if anything" + }, + { + "start": 256.0, + "end": 263.28, + "text": " has to be restarted on your system in order to load updated binaries for this particular" + }, + { + "start": 263.28, + "end": 271.28, + "text": " process, like for example your web server. However, this can apply to a wide range of different" + }, + { + "start": 271.28, + "end": 278.32, + "text": " software. And the problem here is if the process that needs to be restarted is actually a Python" + }, + { + "start": 278.32, + "end": 285.03999999999996, + "text": " script. For example, this also applies to a couple other languages. Then the need restart script" + }, + { + "start": 285.03999999999996, + "end": 291.76, + "text": " pulls the Python path from this particular process's environment. And of course, that process" + }, + { + "start": 291.76, + "end": 298.4, + "text": " may be owned by a less privileged user. And as a result, that less privileged user can then" + }, + { + "start": 298.4, + "end": 306.15999999999997, + "text": " trick need restart into running arbitrary code. The vulnerability has been addressed. And qualis" + }, + { + "start": 306.15999999999997, + "end": 313.92, + "text": " also suggests configuration fix. Also, a couple other similar vulnerabilities, like some time of" + }, + { + "start": 313.92, + "end": 321.12, + "text": " a creation time of a use type vulnerabilities that are also being addressed in this particular" + }, + { + "start": 321.12, + "end": 329.36, + "text": " bulletin. Well, there's it for today. So thanks for listening. There will be no podcast on Monday" + }, + { + "start": 329.36, + "end": 336.72, + "text": " due to my travel schedule. So talk to you again on Tuesday. 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IT has been wild the past few days." + }, + { + "start": 70.48, + "end": 74.08, + "text": " It has. It has. I'm just really grateful for, you know," + }, + { + "start": 74.08, + "end": 77.52000000000001, + "text": " opportunities to keep learning about different things and be aware of stuff." + }, + { + "start": 78.47999999999999, + "end": 80.88, + "text": " I've been tracking down a lot more things." + }, + { + "start": 80.88, + "end": 86.16, + "text": " There's a there's an open platform called TLTDR, T-D-L-R." + }, + { + "start": 86.16, + "end": 91.52, + "text": " TLDR, excuse me. And they've got so many different things that I've learned more" + }, + { + "start": 91.52, + "end": 96.0, + "text": " just on the way how we talk about things in security, like IT security," + }, + { + "start": 96.0, + "end": 99.28, + "text": " for there's been new changes in terms of what we call pin testing," + }, + { + "start": 99.28, + "end": 101.44, + "text": " which is short for penetration testing." + }, + { + "start": 102.24, + "end": 106.08, + "text": " And what that is in terms of IT security is finding out different ways" + }, + { + "start": 106.08, + "end": 112.16, + "text": " of seeing just how secure a network is so that IT support for a given organization" + }, + { + "start": 112.16, + "end": 116.8, + "text": " will see just how malleable or just how easy it is or not," + }, + { + "start": 116.8, + "end": 120.08, + "text": " or how difficult it is to try to break into their own networks." + }, + { + "start": 120.08, + "end": 124.48, + "text": " So when you do pin testing, there are there's a lot of things that you can learn about" + }, + { + "start": 124.48, + "end": 128.0, + "text": " your vulnerabilities of your own network, of your own computers," + }, + { + "start": 128.0, + "end": 129.84, + "text": " or what we call them the Biz endpoints." + }, + { + "start": 131.04, + "end": 135.6, + "text": " And you as a person that uses an endpoint would be considered in the user." + }, + { + "start": 135.68, + "end": 142.56, + "text": " So how so there's a lot of new talk on the horizon that is evolving the way how" + }, + { + "start": 142.56, + "end": 147.84, + "text": " pin testing works in terms of how end users a user of a computer or an endpoint," + }, + { + "start": 149.28, + "end": 154.48, + "text": " just looking at the evolving behaviors that they may accidentally compromise themselves." + }, + { + "start": 154.48, + "end": 158.72, + "text": " I had one of my wife's cousins hit me up and it was saying like," + }, + { + "start": 158.72, + "end": 162.4, + "text": " hey, is it okay for me to open up this PDF file? 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I guarantee you, if you call a big box store, and if you had an issue and you didn't" + }, + { + "start": 586.88, + "end": 593.28, + "text": " call some IT guy named severe, but if you call the, if you call the big box store, I guarantee you," + }, + { + "start": 593.28, + "end": 598.4, + "text": " I'll bet you lunch somewhere. And you're saying like, so is my problem squared away? They're" + }, + { + "start": 598.4, + "end": 602.72, + "text": " going to say, yeah, well, I should. I guarantee you, I bet you lunch for a week. They're going to" + }, + { + "start": 602.72, + "end": 607.6, + "text": " say they're going to say the word should. I guarantee you after he's going to make me test it." + }, + { + "start": 607.6, + "end": 611.92, + "text": " After doing this for about a year, I'd say you're out of several lunches at this point." + }, + { + "start": 613.4399999999999, + "end": 618.4, + "text": " But like it's, but it's like I hear it happen from all my colleagues all the time. 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I picked up the same" + }, + { + "start": 683.2, + "end": 689.12, + "text": " with all the time. Literally communications major with a minor in sociology from Mississippi" + }, + { + "start": 689.12, + "end": 693.6800000000001, + "text": " college. That's it. That's it. I saw the Mississippi music. You didn't mean, ain't, but you're" + }, + { + "start": 693.6800000000001, + "end": 698.08, + "text": " an amazing and we still are going to make Abram nanny dot org. We are going to get that out there." + }, + { + "start": 699.0400000000001, + "end": 703.6, + "text": " Well, we yesterday on money talks, we talked about a lot of what we're talking about right now," + }, + { + "start": 704.48, + "end": 710.32, + "text": " talking about cybersecurity and they had some people from the MSU extension service and state." + }, + { + "start": 710.32, + "end": 715.6, + "text": " And they all, they talked about cybersecurity. So if you missed any of that, check that out," + }, + { + "start": 715.6, + "end": 723.76, + "text": " check out the podcast. But also, I would like to say, speaking to your point about having the," + }, + { + "start": 724.72, + "end": 728.8, + "text": " having the empathy towards the person who is going through something, I'm going to share a" + }, + { + "start": 728.8, + "end": 742.16, + "text": " little bit of a story. What you got? In early 2022, 2023, 2023. And early 2023, I was approached with a" + }, + { + "start": 742.16, + "end": 749.4399999999999, + "text": " fake job that I thought was real. And I thought I was getting this great deal. And I put myself in" + }, + { + "start": 749.44, + "end": 758.0, + "text": " a situation to do this work at home job that I thought was legit. And I was putting the situation" + }, + { + "start": 758.0, + "end": 764.1600000000001, + "text": " where like, I got to go talk to the main because I might have messed up. 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Yeah. And I would say, I would say," + }, + { + "start": 802.56, + "end": 808.56, + "text": " like not just even IT anybody deserves a modicum respect. Yeah. So they kept saying on" + }, + { + "start": 808.56, + "end": 814.88, + "text": " money talks, not to shame the people that you're that you're that are being attacked. Right." + }, + { + "start": 814.88, + "end": 819.52, + "text": " Don't shame them if they they may feel shame. So like what you do is you'd be like," + }, + { + "start": 819.52, + "end": 822.7199999999999, + "text": " hey, you try to coax. You know, hey, everything's going to be all right. You know, this end of" + }, + { + "start": 822.7199999999999, + "end": 830.56, + "text": " third, don't don't be I hate that with any with any subject matter expert, you should always be" + }, + { + "start": 830.56, + "end": 835.28, + "text": " able to treat people with a modicum of respect. Treat people imagine if that was your brother," + }, + { + "start": 835.28, + "end": 840.4, + "text": " your sister, your uncle, whatever that was up there dealing with that. How incensed and upset" + }, + { + "start": 840.4, + "end": 846.0, + "text": " you'd be if you found out that XYZ was laughing. Like that's not. No, that's not cool. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 846.0, + "end": 849.8399999999999, + "text": " That's a little bit also. I really I really I really hate that you went through that," + }, + { + "start": 849.8399999999999, + "end": 856.0799999999999, + "text": " bro. Yeah. And I really think that folks, no matter if it's IT, no matter if it's what you do" + }, + { + "start": 856.08, + "end": 860.4000000000001, + "text": " in terms of like production, everything else or anything else. If if somebody came through," + }, + { + "start": 860.4000000000001, + "end": 867.12, + "text": " I'm glad that we have a standard to uphold them. 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I like I said we would" + }, + { + "start": 929.04, + "end": 936.88, + "text": " love to also take your questions for from anything from IT to a cautionary tale of, you know," + }, + { + "start": 937.84, + "end": 942.72, + "text": " nightmares on the internet. Yeah. And there's so many of them in these these thread actors out here." + }, + { + "start": 942.72, + "end": 949.04, + "text": " They don't care. They try to go ahead and and to be from what I'm understanding and learning more" + }, + { + "start": 949.04, + "end": 955.4399999999999, + "text": " in the Penteas world and everything else, this is some folks jobs. They get paid to scam people." + }, + { + "start": 955.4399999999999, + "end": 960.0, + "text": " I mean, of course, that's did you did you I know we talked about it on the show a couple of" + }, + { + "start": 960.0, + "end": 964.24, + "text": " few weeks back. But do you remember did you ever see the movie Beekeeper? 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It's crazy." + }, + { + "start": 1018.88, + "end": 1023.4399999999999, + "text": " That's crazy. There's another word or phrase that we kept hearing over and over again yesterday." + }, + { + "start": 1023.4399999999999, + "end": 1027.44, + "text": " I'm only talks to social engineering. Social engineering. Just taking advantage of the" + }, + { + "start": 1028.8, + "end": 1034.88, + "text": " politeness, the hospitality of people and like the the established rules that you think people would" + }, + { + "start": 1034.88, + "end": 1041.92, + "text": " have unspoken. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Um, it's always something is always something. And in social" + }, + { + "start": 1041.92, + "end": 1046.4, + "text": " engineering is always something. Generally the biggest scam. We want to try to let our listening" + }, + { + "start": 1046.4, + "end": 1052.64, + "text": " audience know if you get a invoice for something that you know you didn't pay for from Amazon." + }, + { + "start": 1052.64, + "end": 1057.92, + "text": " It'll say it came from Amazon or it'll say it came from somewhere or whatever. Um, it'll say it or" + }, + { + "start": 1057.92, + "end": 1064.16, + "text": " it's it's they're renewing your contractor renewing your invoice for like Norton Antivirus or" + }, + { + "start": 1064.16, + "end": 1068.96, + "text": " something like that. Those are some of the bigger scams. So please watch out for those folks. Don't" + }, + { + "start": 1068.96, + "end": 1074.5600000000002, + "text": " don't download or open the PDF file that come with it. Don't contact those folks and give them access" + }, + { + "start": 1074.56, + "end": 1080.8, + "text": " to your computer or your your financial information. It is not legit. It is not legit. It is not" + }, + { + "start": 1080.8, + "end": 1084.6399999999999, + "text": " legit. Yeah, especially like when you don't even have an account. Of course. Of course people." + }, + { + "start": 1084.6399999999999, + "end": 1090.24, + "text": " They'll be like, Oh, your account is up and yeah, we need to go ahead and renew your your copy of" + }, + { + "start": 1090.24, + "end": 1095.12, + "text": " McAfee. No, you know, I don't have McAfee. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But the thing is is that most computers" + }, + { + "start": 1095.12, + "end": 1099.9199999999998, + "text": " as they an age come with a version like a trial of Norton or a trial of McAfee. So they'd be like," + }, + { + "start": 1099.9199999999998, + "end": 1103.84, + "text": " wait, I do have McAfee on my computer. This must be legit. No click on it. They'll click on it. 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I said, my mother's" + }, + { + "start": 1137.2, + "end": 1146.3200000000002, + "text": " passed away. Oh, no. But you know, I didn't know. I'm that was that meant out. Anyway, we are so lucky" + }, + { + "start": 1147.1200000000001, + "end": 1155.1200000000001, + "text": " for being listeners and advertisers out here in your audience to hear this going on. Yeah. Because" + }, + { + "start": 1155.1200000000001, + "end": 1161.5200000000002, + "text": " it takes that communication where we see if we can get it. They be not giving it all the way." + }, + { + "start": 1161.52, + "end": 1168.16, + "text": " But you have an idea. Yes, ma'am. You have to hit this and that. Yeah. But all both y'all are very," + }, + { + "start": 1168.16, + "end": 1173.84, + "text": " very educated in what you do. And I like how you make it friendly. Thank you. I'd like to hear" + }, + { + "start": 1173.84, + "end": 1177.92, + "text": " from Abram and all the stuff he gets into and to be like something you're still here." + }, + { + "start": 1180.8799999999999, + "end": 1187.04, + "text": " It makes it real for people when we turn in MPB. What's funny? We just listen to the" + }, + { + "start": 1187.52, + "end": 1193.52, + "text": " what I want and say it. Pam was telling stories of different things she didn't like people doing" + }, + { + "start": 1193.52, + "end": 1198.96, + "text": " other so we get educated. And I love it. I love it. And that cost me done." + }, + { + "start": 1200.56, + "end": 1206.08, + "text": " Kathleen, I am so glad to hear you. I just had to say that. Someone, someone right down the time" + }, + { + "start": 1206.08, + "end": 1212.0, + "text": " that this call came through, I am going to save this audio to my phone. Hey, Kathleen." + }, + { + "start": 1212.4, + "end": 1219.92, + "text": " There are more people saying this than you can possibly imagine. And Geneza knew" + }, + { + "start": 1219.92, + "end": 1228.64, + "text": " a how would you call it? Send for Tal Star. I heard you want to save this now. And a lot of people" + }, + { + "start": 1228.64, + "end": 1236.16, + "text": " it the crew that y'all have now is really, really good. In fact, I've been in Barris Kevin. I" + }, + { + "start": 1236.16, + "end": 1241.44, + "text": " always call him the Renaissance man because he can do just about Eddie show and projects and" + }, + { + "start": 1241.44, + "end": 1249.0400000000002, + "text": " writing to form. I mean, he's my old buddy. I've been listening to this channel over 24 years." + }, + { + "start": 1250.4, + "end": 1258.5600000000002, + "text": " I know you'd have to do a lot to kick me off the air. You may know I love her. I love her style," + }, + { + "start": 1258.5600000000002, + "end": 1265.28, + "text": " I love her energy. We just we're just very, very lucky here. Very lucky. Kathleen, we're lucky to" + }, + { + "start": 1265.28, + "end": 1269.04, + "text": " have you as a listener for sure. You know that right? Yes, absolutely." + }, + { + "start": 1272.56, + "end": 1278.72, + "text": " That's all right. We'll put you back on hold and get your information and send that straight to you." + }, + { + "start": 1278.72, + "end": 1282.8799999999999, + "text": " Awesome. I talk to you later. Bye. Thank you so much. Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 1282.8799999999999, + "end": 1288.0, + "text": " That's awesome. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening. Yeah. 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And I try to bring that to" + }, + { + "start": 1345.9199999999998, + "end": 1350.56, + "text": " anybody I'm talking to, whether it's here on the radio, people I'm at at work when I clock in" + }, + { + "start": 1350.56, + "end": 1355.52, + "text": " or for my clients, try to be able to do that. I think every subject matter expert, no matter what" + }, + { + "start": 1355.52, + "end": 1361.04, + "text": " it is, and shout out to Kathleen for for continuing other listeners like her for listening to MPB," + }, + { + "start": 1361.04, + "end": 1365.36, + "text": " for this program, and you're shouting out, giving y'all love too. So it's always good. Yeah," + }, + { + "start": 1365.36, + "end": 1370.72, + "text": " absolutely. And it's fun, like even on here on the air when we're having a conversation and" + }, + { + "start": 1370.72, + "end": 1375.36, + "text": " someone asks a question and you go through it and then I say a little something and then you say" + }, + { + "start": 1375.36, + "end": 1380.3999999999999, + "text": " a lot more. And then I'm just and then they they come through back. They they come back with a" + }, + { + "start": 1380.3999999999999, + "end": 1386.24, + "text": " oh, that makes sense, right. And then you're just like, okay, well, cool. That's it. We could" + }, + { + "start": 1386.24, + "end": 1392.08, + "text": " we could help out a little bit because the technology that we deal with now is such an integral part" + }, + { + "start": 1392.08, + "end": 1398.4799999999998, + "text": " in people's lives. And it's hard to it's it's a complicated thing if you don't know what you're" + }, + { + "start": 1398.56, + "end": 1404.72, + "text": " dealing with in the first place. Right. And it's it's it's it may seem to be a big deal to be like," + }, + { + "start": 1404.72, + "end": 1408.56, + "text": " oh, well, you know, I got to figure out this. I got to figure out that. But Google Assistant," + }, + { + "start": 1408.56, + "end": 1411.68, + "text": " I was just talking one of my best friends. We were talking about it off air. Like I was talking" + }, + { + "start": 1411.68, + "end": 1416.16, + "text": " one of my best friends. And I was like, if you tell you he has a Android phone because he's" + }, + { + "start": 1416.16, + "end": 1422.72, + "text": " awesome. I was like, tell your Google Assistant to say, hey, Google, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then" + }, + { + "start": 1422.72, + "end": 1426.32, + "text": " it'll remind you and all those different things. You don't have to feel overworked. You don't" + }, + { + "start": 1426.32, + "end": 1431.76, + "text": " have to feel stressed out or anything. It's going to work out. 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And my past mine, my past mine is always better" + }, + { + "start": 1465.52, + "end": 1470.72, + "text": " than my current mine. Yes. That thing, that's the other thing that I think that iPhone does not have." + }, + { + "start": 1470.72, + "end": 1475.28, + "text": " Yeah, I used to. Yeah, yeah, I used to ask you. Okay, maybe I just don't know how to do it." + }, + { + "start": 1475.28, + "end": 1478.4, + "text": " It used to well, it was a while ago. It was a long while ago. Yeah, I used to. I think it was" + }, + { + "start": 1478.4, + "end": 1483.2, + "text": " in the days of iPhone six. Yeah. So it was yeah, yeah, yeah, I had it. And I don't know why" + }, + { + "start": 1483.2, + "end": 1486.4, + "text": " did I get rid of it? Because I know I know there's several times where I'm like, all right, I got to" + }, + { + "start": 1486.4, + "end": 1491.44, + "text": " send this message. 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If you've got a phone, again, I've talked" + }, + { + "start": 1626.56, + "end": 1632.32, + "text": " about in this show, a VAST can do no wrong in my opinion. It's a company called AVAST that's AV" + }, + { + "start": 1632.32, + "end": 1639.76, + "text": " like Victor AST like Tango. And they have a VPN that you can be able to download to your phone." + }, + { + "start": 1639.76, + "end": 1646.48, + "text": " So a VPN is what's called a virtual private network. So even though you're on a public network," + }, + { + "start": 1646.48, + "end": 1651.04, + "text": " you can use a VAST VPN or there's a lot of other programs that are out there. Thunder VPN is" + }, + { + "start": 1651.04, + "end": 1658.64, + "text": " another good one where it will make, basically, it puts up like a wall. 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They're probably warning" + }, + { + "start": 1686.3200000000002, + "end": 1690.72, + "text": " you at that doctor's office or clinic or, you know, whatnot, the dentist or whatnot. They say," + }, + { + "start": 1690.72, + "end": 1695.76, + "text": " yeah, we got this guest network, but understand this is the Wild Wild West. You get out here," + }, + { + "start": 1695.76, + "end": 1701.92, + "text": " there's no, there's no privacy for you. But to get a VPN, a VPN app on your phone that may be" + }, + { + "start": 1701.92, + "end": 1707.6, + "text": " free or if you want to, you don't mind spending a couple of bucks, I'll actually give Norton props." + }, + { + "start": 1707.6, + "end": 1712.48, + "text": " Their VPN is actually good. Oh, so there's a couple of others that are out there. I don't usually," + }, + { + "start": 1712.48, + "end": 1717.36, + "text": " I'm not a big fan of Norton stuff, but their Norton VPN is pretty good. So there are a few things" + }, + { + "start": 1717.36, + "end": 1723.12, + "text": " that are out there that are free or may cost you a few bucks. Get that VPN app and put it on your" + }, + { + "start": 1723.12, + "end": 1728.08, + "text": " phone for a little bit extra privacy. And I'll take care of that one. Well, you have to learn" + }, + { + "start": 1728.08, + "end": 1732.3999999999999, + "text": " something every day and I'll show you it. And thank you so much. I'll do that. Absolutely. Patrick," + }, + { + "start": 1732.3999999999999, + "end": 1735.76, + "text": " you have a good one. Thanks for calling. Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 1737.28, + "end": 1744.8799999999999, + "text": " Yeah, especially if you are on public Wi-Fi often, VPN is a good idea. 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First let me say I'm a sustainer and I think I can beat Kathleen" + }, + { + "start": 2025.92, + "end": 2034.24, + "text": " when I say that I think I've been listening to mpv for close to 40 years. Becky wins. Becky wins." + }, + { + "start": 2034.24, + "end": 2043.84, + "text": " Let's go. That's our wish. I had DJ sales. We go. Because my husband I've been married 39 years" + }, + { + "start": 2043.84, + "end": 2052.4, + "text": " and his family that introduced me to mpv. That's awesome. Appreciate it. Sure. I appreciate y'all. So" + }, + { + "start": 2053.04, + "end": 2061.52, + "text": " I'm calling to see if y'all if either y'all do this or if you know someone reliable who does this" + }, + { + "start": 2061.52, + "end": 2069.36, + "text": " or if you would consider doing this preferably in person with especially the elderly like you" + }, + { + "start": 2069.36, + "end": 2077.04, + "text": " were talking about earlier because my little mama in Q below who's 89 years old and is fairly tech" + }, + { + "start": 2077.04, + "end": 2086.0, + "text": " savvy but she constantly gets things mixed up like oh I sent so into a text message. I'm like" + }, + { + "start": 2086.0, + "end": 2090.56, + "text": " really I didn't even know you had their number. She's like well I don't. 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But also just you know like check help right" + }, + { + "start": 2138.72, + "end": 2146.96, + "text": " there on the spot. I think I've used up all my space or photos or whatever what do I do." + }, + { + "start": 2147.12, + "end": 2153.92, + "text": " Yeah yeah I mean so and and I think that there I mean the state of Mississippi I've been in 80 of" + }, + { + "start": 2153.92, + "end": 2160.2400000000002, + "text": " Mississippi's 82 counties and I've been I've never been a bit in their tip of what I want to" + }, + { + "start": 2161.28, + "end": 2168.96, + "text": " but I think that there are a lot of places Macomb, Hattiesburg, the Gulf Coast, Meridian you're" + }, + { + "start": 2168.96, + "end": 2173.36, + "text": " calling from Meridian there used to be a spot oh man I can't remember they even have a place." + }, + { + "start": 2173.36, + "end": 2177.92, + "text": " But my mom's in Tupelo. Oh yeah I got you I said your mom I know you're calling from what say" + }, + { + "start": 2177.92, + "end": 2182.6400000000003, + "text": " I was gonna say get the Tupelo. We got a couple of people that have called here saying that there" + }, + { + "start": 2182.6400000000003, + "end": 2188.1600000000003, + "text": " was a tech shop up in Tupelo or in the Lee County area that they're familiar with but there are a lot" + }, + { + "start": 2188.1600000000003, + "end": 2192.7200000000003, + "text": " of spots that kind of work as like hubs and some Grenada. I definitely know there's a no of one in" + }, + { + "start": 2192.7200000000003, + "end": 2198.1600000000003, + "text": " Grenada. 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Yeah absolutely." + }, + { + "start": 2217.3599999999997, + "end": 2222.16, + "text": " Think about and and to be able to work with and maybe even make like a coalition that would maybe" + }, + { + "start": 2222.16, + "end": 2227.52, + "text": " we were to put together an app or something like that that would be easy and be able to regularly do" + }, + { + "start": 2227.52, + "end": 2232.48, + "text": " some things like this. I mean I have 80 HD brain my brain says no no no no I'm saying you said" + }, + { + "start": 2232.48, + "end": 2237.2799999999997, + "text": " maybe we can do an app that would be easy. Yeah yeah I'm like how right oh I do apps. I'm about to" + }, + { + "start": 2237.2799999999997, + "end": 2242.72, + "text": " start doing I'm my organization my company's about to start doing apps so yeah so but yeah we um" + }, + { + "start": 2242.72, + "end": 2247.92, + "text": " but to do something like that is a great idea um if you don't mind could you give us an email" + }, + { + "start": 2248.0, + "end": 2253.76, + "text": " Becky if you've got some other ideas yeah can we um can we put yeah if you don't mind Becky can we" + }, + { + "start": 2254.2400000000002, + "end": 2259.36, + "text": " either email everyday tech at npponline.org or your main can put you on hold and we'll get someone" + }, + { + "start": 2259.36, + "end": 2265.6800000000003, + "text": " to write down your email yeah give it to Sabir yeah yeah that's a great idea. I'll pop to" + }, + { + "start": 2265.6800000000003, + "end": 2273.44, + "text": " Giovanni. Okay all right cool very much very much appreciate that Becky also a long time" + }, + { + "start": 2273.44, + "end": 2280.0, + "text": " sustainer listener so very very cool to have that as well that's wild. Here's my amazing" + }, + { + "start": 2280.0, + "end": 2287.2000000000003, + "text": " great DJ button. But that's that that is and that's a great idea that's something that needs to" + }, + { + "start": 2287.2000000000003, + "end": 2292.48, + "text": " happen. I know I mean again I'm give Lynn Fitch Lynn Fitch's office her props like they they" + }, + { + "start": 2292.48, + "end": 2297.28, + "text": " have the office of cybercrime but I don't know that they're doing anything for like education." + }, + { + "start": 2297.36, + "end": 2304.5600000000004, + "text": " I don't know that. I do think um Sally Dodie in her office. 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"text": " but not untodd I brother." + }, + { + "start": 190.96, + "end": 191.76, + "text": " Yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 191.76, + "end": 192.56, + "text": " Who comes here?" + }, + { + "start": 194.08, + "end": 195.92000000000002, + "text": " That's too fair, senior entail." + }, + { + "start": 196.88, + "end": 197.6, + "text": " It's cool." + }, + { + "start": 198.56, + "end": 200.16, + "text": " What is money than his uses?" + }, + { + "start": 201.52, + "end": 203.52, + "text": " This Jew, Shylock," + }, + { + "start": 204.32, + "end": 205.28, + "text": " Miss Manliva," + }, + { + "start": 206.32, + "end": 207.52, + "text": " cut through a dog." + }, + { + "start": 214.64000000000001, + "end": 215.76, + "text": " The merchant defense" + }, + { + "start": 216.4, + "end": 217.6, + "text": " by William Shakespeare." + }, + { + "start": 225.6, + "end": 227.04, + "text": " Machiaktor for Antonio?" + }, + { + "start": 227.76, + "end": 228.24, + "text": " In Sioux." + }, + { + 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"text": " I have a mind," + }, + { + "start": 655.76, + "end": 656.9599999999999, + "text": " presages me such thrift," + }, + { + "start": 656.9599999999999, + "end": 659.76, + "text": " that I should question this before chinat." + }, + { + "start": 659.76, + "end": 663.36, + "text": " Thou knowest that all my fortunes are at sea?" + }, + { + "start": 663.36, + "end": 667.36, + "text": " Neither have I money nor commodity to raise a present sum." + }, + { + "start": 667.36, + "end": 669.36, + "text": " Therefore, go forth." + }, + { + "start": 669.36, + "end": 673.9599999999999, + "text": " Try what my credit can inventes do," + }, + { + "start": 673.9599999999999, + "end": 676.56, + "text": " that shall be racked even to the uttermost," + }, + { + "start": 676.56, + "end": 678.56, + "text": " to furnish thee to Belmont," + }, + { + "start": 678.56, + "end": 680.9599999999999, + "text": " to fear Poshah." + }, + { + "start": 680.96, + "end": 683.36, + "text": " Go," + }, + { + 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709.76, + "end": 711.52, + "text": " Hi, the name Simon," + }, + { + "start": 711.52, + "end": 712.5600000000001, + "text": " Simon Fulkenbridge." + }, + { + "start": 712.5600000000001, + "end": 714.16, + "text": " I'm an executive by day," + }, + { + "start": 714.16, + "end": 716.16, + "text": " and a wild man by night." + }, + { + "start": 716.16, + "end": 717.36, + "text": " Bosfowl," + }, + { + "start": 717.36, + "end": 719.76, + "text": " I am Moise Lebon." + }, + { + "start": 719.76, + "end": 722.96, + "text": " You've probably already noticed that I have" + }, + { + "start": 722.96, + "end": 724.96, + "text": " incredibly blue eyes." + }, + { + "start": 724.96, + "end": 729.36, + "text": " I'm interested in most phases of data processing." + }, + { + "start": 729.36, + "end": 733.36, + "text": " Hello, my name's Kurt." + }, + { + "start": 733.36, + "end": 736.16, + "text": " Most of my friends call me Big Kurt." + }, + { + "start": 736.16, + "end": 738.5600000000001, + "text": " 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Superfluity comes sooner by white hairs," + }, + { + "start": 786.56, + "end": 788.56, + "text": " but competency lives long." + }, + { + "start": 788.56, + "end": 790.96, + "text": " Good sentences and well pronounced." + }, + { + "start": 790.96, + "end": 792.56, + "text": " They will be better if well-follow." + }, + { + "start": 792.56, + "end": 796.16, + "text": " If to do, where as easy as to know what were good to do." + }, + { + "start": 796.16, + "end": 798.9599999999999, + "text": " Chapples had been churches." + }, + { + "start": 798.9599999999999, + "end": 802.16, + "text": " And poor men's cottages, princes, palaces." + }, + { + "start": 802.16, + "end": 806.16, + "text": " There's a good divine that follows his own instructions." + }, + { + "start": 806.16, + "end": 808.9599999999999, + "text": " I can easily teach 20 what were good to be done." + }, + { + "start": 808.9599999999999, + "end": 812.56, + "text": " Then be one of the 20 to follow my own teaching." + }, + { + 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"text": " Your father was ever virtuous," + }, + { + "start": 841.36, + "end": 844.5600000000001, + "text": " and holy men at their death have good inspirations." + }, + { + "start": 844.5600000000001, + "end": 849.76, + "text": " Therefore, the lottery that he had devised in these three chests of gold, silver and lead," + }, + { + "start": 850.16, + "end": 852.56, + "text": " whereof who chooses his meaning chooses you," + }, + { + "start": 852.56, + "end": 857.36, + "text": " will no doubt never be chosen by any rightly but one who shall rightly love." + }, + { + "start": 857.36, + "end": 858.56, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 858.56, + "end": 862.96, + "text": " But what warmth is there in your affection towards any of these princely suitors that I already come?" + }, + { + "start": 862.96, + "end": 865.36, + "text": " I pray thee, over name them," + }, + { + "start": 865.36, + "end": 867.76, + "text": " and as thou nameest them, I will describe them," + }, + { + "start": 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"start": 1014.56, + "end": 1020.16, + "text": " I remember him well, and I remember him worthy of thy praise." + }, + { + "start": 1020.56, + "end": 1022.56, + "text": " Oh!" + }, + { + "start": 1022.56, + "end": 1024.56, + "text": " Oh!" + }, + { + "start": 1024.56, + "end": 1025.56, + "text": " Oh!" + }, + { + "start": 1025.56, + "end": 1027.56, + "text": " How now, what news?" + }, + { + "start": 1027.56, + "end": 1029.56, + "text": " Mm-hmm." + }, + { + "start": 1029.56, + "end": 1031.56, + "text": " Mm." + }, + { + "start": 1031.56, + "end": 1033.56, + "text": " Mm." + }, + { + "start": 1033.56, + "end": 1037.36, + "text": " The four strangers seek for you, Madden, to take their leave." + }, + { + "start": 1037.36, + "end": 1039.36, + "text": " And there is a four-runner come from a fifth." + }, + { + "start": 1039.36, + "end": 1044.56, + "text": " The prince of Morocco, who brings word the prince, his master, will be here tonight." + }, + { + "start": 1044.56, + "end": 1046.56, + "text": " Oh!" + }, + { + "start": 1046.96, + "end": 1053.36, + "text": " If I could bid the fifth welcome with so good a heart as I can bid the other four fair well," + }, + { + "start": 1053.36, + "end": 1055.36, + "text": " I should be glad of his approach." + }, + { + "start": 1055.36, + "end": 1060.96, + "text": " Come, Larissa, whilst we shut the gates upon one wooer, another knocks at the door." + }, + { + "start": 1065.1599999999999, + "end": 1066.76, + "text": " Three thousand dockets?" + }, + { + "start": 1066.76, + "end": 1067.96, + "text": " Wow." + }, + { + "start": 1067.96, + "end": 1069.96, + "text": " Iser, for three months." + }, + { + "start": 1069.96, + "end": 1071.36, + "text": " For three months?" + }, + { + "start": 1071.36, + "end": 1072.56, + "text": " Well, mm." + }, + { + "start": 1072.56, + "end": 1076.1599999999999, + "text": " For the witch, as I told you, Antonio, shall be byte." + }, + { + "start": 1076.16, + "end": 1078.16, + "text": " Antonio shall 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"text": " I will buy with you, sell with you, talk with you, walk with you and so following," + }, + { + "start": 1186.16, + "end": 1193.16, + "text": " but I will not eat with you, drink with you, nor pray with you." + }, + { + "start": 1193.16, + "end": 1197.16, + "text": " What news on the realto?" + }, + { + "start": 1197.16, + "end": 1200.16, + "text": " Who is he coming to you?" + }, + { + "start": 1200.16, + "end": 1202.16, + "text": " Oh." + }, + { + "start": 1202.16, + "end": 1204.16, + "text": " Tis senior Antonio." + }, + { + "start": 1204.16, + "end": 1205.16, + "text": " Shela." + }, + { + "start": 1205.16, + "end": 1207.16, + "text": " Do you hear?" + }, + { + "start": 1207.16, + "end": 1213.16, + "text": " I'm debating of my present store, and by the near gas of my memory," + }, + { + "start": 1213.16, + "end": 1220.16, + "text": " I cannot instantly raise up the gross of four three thousand dockets." + }, + { + "start": 1220.16, + "end": 1221.16, + "text": " Shela." + }, + { + "start": 1221.16, + "end": 1223.16, + "text": " Rest you fair, good senior." + }, + { + "start": 1223.16, + "end": 1226.16, + "text": " Your worship was the last man in her mouth." + }, + { + "start": 1226.16, + "end": 1230.16, + "text": " How like a forning public, and he looks?" + }, + { + "start": 1230.16, + "end": 1232.16, + "text": " I hate him." + }, + { + "start": 1232.16, + "end": 1235.16, + "text": " For he is a Christian." + }, + { + "start": 1235.16, + "end": 1239.16, + "text": " But more for that, in low simplicity, he lends out money gratis," + }, + { + "start": 1239.16, + "end": 1243.16, + "text": " and brings down the rate of use and heal with us in Venice." + }, + { + "start": 1243.16, + "end": 1251.16, + "text": " If I can catch him once upon the hip, I will feed fat the ancient grudge I bear in him." + }, + { + "start": 1251.16, + "end": 1259.16, + "text": " He hates our sacred nation, and he rails, even there, where merchants must do congregate on me," + }, 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How much he would?" + }, + { + "start": 1283.16, + "end": 1285.16, + "text": " I, I, three thousand dockets." + }, + { + "start": 1285.16, + "end": 1286.16, + "text": " And for three months." + }, + { + "start": 1286.16, + "end": 1287.16, + "text": " I had forgot." + }, + { + "start": 1287.16, + "end": 1288.16, + "text": " Three months." + }, + { + "start": 1288.16, + "end": 1290.16, + "text": " You told me so." + }, + { + "start": 1290.16, + "end": 1291.16, + "text": " Well then, you're bond." + }, + { + "start": 1291.16, + "end": 1294.16, + "text": " And let me see, but here you..." + }, + { + "start": 1294.16, + "end": 1298.16, + "text": " Me thought you said you neither land nor borrow upon advantage." + }, + { + "start": 1298.16, + "end": 1300.16, + "text": " I do never use it." + }, + { + "start": 1300.16, + "end": 1302.16, + "text": " When Jacob grazed his uncle, Laban's sheep..." + }, + { + "start": 1302.16, + "end": 1304.16, + "text": " What of him? Did he take interest?" + }, + { + "start": 1304.16, + "end": 1309.16, + "text": " No, not take interest, not, as he would say, directly interest." + }, + { + "start": 1309.16, + "end": 1314.16, + "text": " Mark what Jacob did, when Laban and himself were compromised," + }, + { + "start": 1314.16, + "end": 1319.16, + "text": " that all the lambs which were streaked and pied should fall as Jacob's hire," + }, + { + "start": 1319.16, + "end": 1323.16, + "text": " the use being rank in end of autumn to turn to the rams," + }, + { + "start": 1323.16, + "end": 1328.16, + "text": " and when the work of generation was between these woolly breeders in the act," + }, + { + "start": 1328.16, + "end": 1331.16, + "text": " the skillful shepherd peeled me certain ones," + }, + { + "start": 1331.16, + "end": 1336.16, + "text": " and in the doing of the deed of kind, he stuck them up before the fulsom use," + }, + { + "start": 1336.16, + "end": 1340.16, + "text": " who then conceiving did in eaning 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Mark you, this, Bessania." + }, + { + "start": 1370.16, + "end": 1373.16, + "text": " The delicate sight scripture for his purpose," + }, + { + "start": 1374.16, + "end": 1377.16, + "text": " but what a goodly outside force on half." + }, + { + "start": 1377.16, + "end": 1380.16, + "text": " Three thousand dockets to the good-round sum." + }, + { + "start": 1380.16, + "end": 1385.16, + "text": " Three months from 12, and we see..." + }, + { + "start": 1385.16, + "end": 1388.16, + "text": " Well, shall we be beholden to you?" + }, + { + "start": 1388.16, + "end": 1391.16, + "text": " Senior Antonio, many a time and often in the realter," + }, + { + "start": 1391.16, + "end": 1394.16, + "text": " you have rated me about my monies and my use-senses." + }, + { + "start": 1394.16, + "end": 1397.16, + "text": " Still have I be wondered with a patient shrug," + }, + { + "start": 1397.16, + "end": 1400.16, + "text": " for sufferance is the badge of all our tribe." + }, + { + "start": 1400.16, 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"end": 1432.16, + "text": " Why not say, half a dog money?" + }, + { + "start": 1432.16, + "end": 1437.16, + "text": " Is it possible a cur can lend three thousand dockets?" + }, + { + "start": 1437.16, + "end": 1442.16, + "text": " Or shall I bend low and in a bondman's key with baited breath," + }, + { + "start": 1442.16, + "end": 1445.16, + "text": " and whispering humbleness say this?" + }, + { + "start": 1445.16, + "end": 1447.16, + "text": " Fair sir, you spat on me once," + }, + { + "start": 1447.16, + "end": 1449.16, + "text": " they last you spurned me such a day," + }, + { + "start": 1449.16, + "end": 1451.16, + "text": " and other time you called me dog," + }, + { + "start": 1451.16, + "end": 1456.16, + "text": " and for these curses I lend you thus much monies." + }, + { + "start": 1456.16, + "end": 1458.16, + "text": " I was like to call you so again," + }, + { + "start": 1458.16, + "end": 1460.16, + "text": " to spit on thee again, to spurn thee too." + }, + { + "start": 1460.16, + "end": 1462.16, + "text": " If I would lend this money," + }, + { + "start": 1462.16, + "end": 1464.16, + "text": " lend it not as to thy friends," + }, + { + "start": 1464.16, + "end": 1468.16, + "text": " for when in friendship take a breed for barren metal of his friend," + }, + { + "start": 1468.16, + "end": 1470.16, + "text": " but lend it rather to thine enemy," + }, + { + "start": 1470.16, + "end": 1474.16, + "text": " so if he break thou mace with better face exact the penalty." + }, + { + "start": 1474.16, + "end": 1476.16, + "text": " Look how you storm." + }, + { + "start": 1476.16, + "end": 1479.16, + "text": " I would be friends with you and have your love." + }, + { + "start": 1479.16, + "end": 1482.16, + "text": " Forget the shames that you have stained me with," + }, + { + "start": 1482.16, + "end": 1484.16, + "text": " supply your present ones," + }, + { + "start": 1484.16, + "end": 1486.16, + "text": " and take no doubt of use since for my monies," + }, + { + "start": 1486.16, + "end": 1488.16, + "text": " and you'll not hear me." + }, + { + "start": 1488.16, + "end": 1490.16, + "text": " This is kind I offer." + }, + { + "start": 1490.16, + "end": 1491.16, + "text": " This work-aignness." + }, + { + "start": 1491.16, + "end": 1494.16, + "text": " This kindness, will I show?" + }, + { + "start": 1494.16, + "end": 1497.16, + "text": " Go with me to a notary," + }, + { + "start": 1497.16, + "end": 1499.16, + "text": " seal me there your single bond," + }, + { + "start": 1499.16, + "end": 1501.16, + "text": " and in a merry sport," + }, + { + "start": 1501.16, + "end": 1503.16, + "text": " if you repay me not on such a day," + }, + { + "start": 1503.16, + "end": 1505.16, + "text": " in such a place, such some," + }, + { + "start": 1505.16, + "end": 1508.16, + "text": " or some as are expressed in the condition," + }, + { + "start": 1508.16, + "end": 1511.16, + "text": " let the forefathers be nominated for" + }, + { + "start": 1511.16, + "end": 1515.16, + "text": " an equal pound of your fair flesh," + }, + { + "start": 1515.16, + "end": 1522.16, + "text": " to be cut off and taken in what part of your body please with me." + }, + { + "start": 1524.16, + "end": 1526.16, + "text": " Contenty face." + }, + { + "start": 1527.16, + "end": 1529.16, + "text": " I'll seal to such a bond," + }, + { + "start": 1529.16, + "end": 1532.16, + "text": " and say there is much kindness in the due." + }, + { + "start": 1532.16, + "end": 1536.16, + "text": " You shall not seal to such a bond for me." + }, + { + "start": 1536.16, + "end": 1538.16, + "text": " I'd rather dwell on my necessity." + }, + { + "start": 1538.16, + "end": 1540.16, + "text": " Why fear not, man?" + }, + { + "start": 1540.16, + "end": 1542.16, + "text": " I will not forfeit it." + }, + { + "start": 1542.16, + "end": 1544.16, + "text": " Within these two months," + }, + { + "start": 1544.16, + "end": 1546.16, + "text": " thus a month before this bond expires," + }, 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1605.16, + "text": " Gentle Jew." + }, + { + "start": 1610.16, + "end": 1612.16, + "text": " The Hebrew will turn Christian." + }, + { + "start": 1612.16, + "end": 1614.16, + "text": " He grows kind." + }, + { + "start": 1614.16, + "end": 1617.16, + "text": " I like not fair terms and a villain's mind." + }, + { + "start": 1617.16, + "end": 1618.16, + "text": " Come on." + }, + { + "start": 1618.16, + "end": 1620.16, + "text": " In this, there can be notice may." + }, + { + "start": 1620.16, + "end": 1623.16, + "text": " My ships come home a month before the day." + }, + { + "start": 1641.16, + "end": 1644.16, + "text": " Miss, like me not for my complexion," + }, + { + "start": 1644.16, + "end": 1646.16, + "text": " the shadowed delivery of the burnished son" + }, + { + "start": 1647.16, + "end": 1649.16, + "text": " to whom I am a neighbor and near bread." + }, + { + "start": 1649.16, + "end": 1652.16, + "text": " I tell thee, lady," + }, + { + "start": 1652.16, + "end": 1656.16, + "text": " this aspect of mine has feared the valiant." + }, + { + "start": 1656.16, + "end": 1659.16, + "text": " By my love I swear," + }, + { + "start": 1659.16, + "end": 1664.16, + "text": " the best regarded virgins of our climb have loved it too." + }, + { + "start": 1664.16, + "end": 1666.16, + "text": " I would not change this hue" + }, + { + "start": 1666.16, + "end": 1669.16, + "text": " except to steal your thoughts." + }, + { + "start": 1669.16, + "end": 1671.16, + "text": " My gentle queen." + }, + { + "start": 1671.16, + "end": 1674.16, + "text": " Ah, in terms of choice," + }, + { + "start": 1674.16, + "end": 1679.16, + "text": " I am not solely led by nice direction of a maiden's eyes." + }, + { + "start": 1679.16, + "end": 1682.16, + "text": " Besides, the lottery of my destiny" + }, + { + "start": 1682.16, + "end": 1685.16, + "text": " bars me the right of voluntary choosing." + }, + { + "start": 1685.16, + "end": 1690.16, + "text": " But if my father had not scanted 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1726.16, + "text": " afterward in way of marriage." + }, + { + "start": 1726.16, + "end": 1729.16, + "text": " Therefore be advised." + }, + { + "start": 1730.16, + "end": 1731.16, + "text": " Nor will not." + }, + { + "start": 1731.16, + "end": 1733.16, + "text": " Come, bring me unto my chance." + }, + { + "start": 1733.16, + "end": 1735.16, + "text": " First, forward the temple." + }, + { + "start": 1735.16, + "end": 1737.16, + "text": " After dinner, your hazard shall be made." + }, + { + "start": 1737.16, + "end": 1741.16, + "text": " Good fortune then, to make me blessed or cusser this diamond me." + }, + { + "start": 1751.16, + "end": 1755.16, + "text": " Certainly my conscience will serve me to run from this Jew my master." + }, + { + "start": 1755.16, + "end": 1758.16, + "text": " The fiend is at my nil by my attempts at me, saying to me," + }, + { + "start": 1759.16, + "end": 1763.16, + "text": " gobo, Lancelot gobo, use your legs, take the start, run away!" + }, + { + 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"text": " God bless your worship." + }, + { + "start": 1825.16, + "end": 1828.16, + "text": " Guru Mercy, what's the start of it with me?" + }, + { + "start": 1828.16, + "end": 1830.16, + "text": " I am Lancelot, the Jew's man." + }, + { + "start": 1830.16, + "end": 1836.16, + "text": " And I have great infection, sir, as one would say, to serve you, sir." + }, + { + "start": 1836.16, + "end": 1838.16, + "text": " That is the very defect of the Matyser." + }, + { + "start": 1838.16, + "end": 1842.16, + "text": " I know the well, the haste of tin they suit." + }, + { + "start": 1842.16, + "end": 1844.16, + "text": " Shall I tell master spoke with me this day" + }, + { + "start": 1844.16, + "end": 1846.16, + "text": " and have preferred the if it be," + }, + { + "start": 1846.16, + "end": 1850.16, + "text": " a preferment to leave a rich Jew's service" + }, + { + "start": 1850.16, + "end": 1854.16, + "text": " to become the follower of so poor gentleman." + }, + { + "start": 1854.16, + "end": 1858.16, + "text": " The old proverb is very well parted between my master, Shylock and Yusa." + }, + { + "start": 1858.16, + "end": 1863.16, + "text": " You have the grace of God, sir, and he hath enough." + }, + { + "start": 1864.16, + "end": 1866.16, + "text": " That speaks to it well." + }, + { + "start": 1866.16, + "end": 1869.16, + "text": " Take leave of the old master and acquire my lodging." + }, + { + "start": 1869.16, + "end": 1871.16, + "text": " I'll take leave of the Jew in a twinkling." + }, + { + "start": 1872.16, + "end": 1874.16, + "text": " Signor Bessonio!" + }, + { + "start": 1875.16, + "end": 1876.16, + "text": " Graciano." + }, + { + "start": 1876.16, + "end": 1878.16, + "text": " I have a suit to you." + }, + { + "start": 1878.16, + "end": 1879.16, + "text": " I use you to attend it." + }, + { + "start": 1879.16, + "end": 1881.16, + "text": " You must not deny me." + }, + { + "start": 1881.16, + "end": 1883.16, + "text": " I must go with you to Belma." + }, + { + "start": 1883.16, + "end": 1885.16, + "text": " Well, then you must." + }, + { + "start": 1885.16, + "end": 1892.16, + "text": " But here, the Graciano, there are two wild, two rude and bold of voice." + }, + { + "start": 1892.16, + "end": 1895.16, + "text": " Parts that become the happily enough and such eyes as ours appear not false," + }, + { + "start": 1895.16, + "end": 1898.16, + "text": " but where they are not known, why they're there," + }, + { + "start": 1898.16, + "end": 1901.16, + "text": " they show something too liberal." + }, + { + "start": 1901.16, + "end": 1903.16, + "text": " Prathy." + }, + { + "start": 1903.16, + "end": 1908.16, + "text": " Take pain to a lay with some cold drops of modesty that's skipping spirit," + }, + { + "start": 1908.16, + "end": 1912.16, + "text": " lest through thy wild behavior, I've been as construed in the place I go to" + }, + { + "start": 1912.16, + "end": 1914.16, + "text": " and lose my hopes." + }, + { + "start": 1914.16, + "end": 1916.16, + "text": " Signor Bessonio, him." + }, + { + "start": 1916.16, + "end": 1919.16, + "text": " If I do not put on a sober habit," + }, + { + "start": 1919.16, + "end": 1923.16, + "text": " talk with respect and swear, but now then," + }, + { + "start": 1923.16, + "end": 1928.16, + "text": " where poor books in my pocket looked moolly." + }, + { + "start": 1928.16, + "end": 1931.16, + "text": " Namor, while Graciano's saying, put my eyes," + }, + { + "start": 1931.16, + "end": 1933.16, + "text": " that's with my heart, sigh and say," + }, + { + "start": 1933.16, + "end": 1937.16, + "text": " hey, man, use all the observance of civility," + }, + { + "start": 1937.16, + "end": 1940.16, + "text": " like one well studied in a sadder stench of pleases," + }, + { + "start": 1940.16, + "end": 1943.16, + "text": " Graham, never trust me more." + }, + { + "start": 1943.16, + "end": 1945.16, + "text": " Oh, well, we shall see you bearing." + }, + { + "start": 1945.16, + "end": 1946.16, + "text": " Yeah!" + }, + { + "start": 1946.16, + "end": 1947.16, + "text": " But I bathed tonight." + }, + { + "start": 1947.16, + "end": 1949.16, + "text": " You should not gauge me by what we do tonight." + }, + { + "start": 1949.16, + "end": 1950.16, + "text": " No, that would be petty." + }, + { + "start": 1950.16, + "end": 1953.16, + "text": " I would treat your other to put on your boldest suit of murder." + }, + { + "start": 1953.16, + "end": 1955.16, + "text": " We have friends that purpose merriment," + }, + { + "start": 1955.16, + "end": 1957.16, + "text": " but fail you well." + }, + { + "start": 1957.16, + "end": 1958.16, + "text": " I have some business." + }, + { + "start": 1958.16, + "end": 1960.16, + "text": " And I must go to Lorenzo and the rest," + }, + { + "start": 1960.16, + "end": 1962.16, + "text": " but we will visit you in supper time." + }, + { + "start": 1966.16, + "end": 1970.16, + "text": " Finest at WKD Blue for my mistress." + }, + { + "start": 1970.16, + "end": 1972.16, + "text": " Thanks, that's right." + }, + { + "start": 1975.16, + "end": 1979.16, + "text": " I am sorry that I would leave my father so our house is hell," + }, + { + "start": 1979.16, + "end": 1984.16, + "text": " and thou a merry devil did rob it of some taste of tediousness." + }, + { + "start": 1984.16, + "end": 1989.16, + "text": " But fairly well, there is a duckit for thee." + }, + { + "start": 1989.16, + "end": 1992.16, + "text": " And glance a lot, soon at supper," + }, + { + "start": 1992.16, + "end": 1996.16, + "text": " shall thou see Lorenzo, who is thy new master's guest." + }, + { + "start": 1996.16, + "end": 1997.16, + "text": " Give him this letter." + }, + { + "start": 1997.16, + "end": 2000.16, + "text": " Do it secretly, and so farewell," + }, + { + "start": 2000.16, + "end": 2003.16, + "text": " I will not have my father see me in talk with thee." + }, + { + "start": 2003.16, + "end": 2004.16, + "text": " Adieu." + }, + { + "start": 2004.16, + "end": 2006.16, + "text": " Tears exhibit my tongue." + }, + { + "start": 2007.16, + "end": 2010.16, + "text": " Almost beautiful pagan, most sweet Jew." + }, + { + "start": 2010.16, + "end": 2013.16, + "text": " If a Christian did not play the name and get thee," + }, + { + "start": 2013.16, + "end": 2015.16, + "text": " I am much deceived." + }, + { + "start": 2015.16, + "end": 2016.16, + "text": " But, Adieu." + }, + { + "start": 2016.16, + "end": 2020.16, + "text": " These foolish drops do something round my manly spirit." + }, + { + "start": 2020.16, + "end": 2021.16, + "text": " Adieu." + }, + { + "start": 2021.16, + "end": 2023.16, + "text": " Farewell, goodlance a lot." + }, + { + "start": 2025.16, + "end": 2030.16, + "text": " Alac, what hinder sin is it in me to be ashamed to be my father's child?" + }, + { + "start": 2031.16, + "end": 2035.16, + "text": " But, though I am adored at his blood, I am not his manness." + }, + { + "start": 2036.16, + "end": 2040.16, + "text": " Oh, Lorenzo, if thou keep promise, I shall end this drive." + }, + { + "start": 2040.16, + "end": 2043.16, + "text": " Become a Christian and thy loving wife." + }, + { + "start": 2045.16, + "end": 2047.16, + "text": " Are you in that way?" + }, + { + "start": 2047.16, + "end": 2049.16, + "text": " You're in that first ever for your own." + }, + { + "start": 2049.16, + "end": 2050.16, + "text": " You're pocketed!" + }, + { + "start": 2050.16, + "end": 2051.16, + "text": " Come on, true!" + }, + { + "start": 2051.16, + "end": 2052.16, + "text": " I'm not." + }, + { + "start": 2052.16, + "end": 2055.16, + "text": " Gentlemen, will you prepare you for this mask tonight?" + }, + { + "start": 2055.16, + "end": 2057.16, + "text": " We have not made good preparation." + }, + { + "start": 2057.16, + "end": 2059.16, + "text": " No, we have not spoken to you of Torxbarris." + }, + { + "start": 2059.16, + "end": 2062.16, + "text": " This vile, unless it may be Quaint Yordid," + }, + { + "start": 2062.16, + "end": 2064.16, + "text": " and veteran my mind, not under turban." + }, + { + "start": 2064.16, + "end": 2066.16, + "text": " It is now but six o'clock." + }, + { + "start": 2066.16, + "end": 2068.16, + "text": " We have two hours to furnish us." + }, + { + "start": 2068.16, + "end": 2070.16, + "text": " Friend, Lonsoloy." + }, + { + "start": 2070.16, + "end": 2071.16, + "text": " What's the news?" + }, + { + "start": 2071.16, + "end": 2073.16, + "text": " And it shall please you to break up this." + }, + { + "start": 2073.16, + "end": 2075.16, + "text": " It shall seem to signify." + }, + { + "start": 2075.16, + "end": 2079.16, + "text": " I know the hand in faith, it is a fair hand." + }, + { + "start": 2079.16, + "end": 2083.16, + "text": " And why to them the paper it written is the fair hand that written." + }, + { + "start": 2083.16, + "end": 2086.16, + "text": " Love me, Zipfay!" + }, + { + "start": 2086.16, + "end": 2088.16, + "text": " By the leaves, sir." + }, + { + "start": 2088.16, + "end": 2091.16, + "text": " Was not that letter from Fair Jessica." + }, + { + "start": 2092.16, + "end": 2094.16, + "text": " I must need to tell the Or." + }, + { + "start": 2094.16, + "end": 2098.16, + "text": " She have directed how I shall take her from her father's house." + }, + { + "start": 2098.16, + "end": 2101.16, + "text": " What gold and jewels she is furnished with." + }, + { + "start": 2101.16, + "end": 2104.16, + "text": " What pages suit she hathn't readiness?" + }, + { + "start": 2104.16, + "end": 2106.16, + "text": " If her the Jew her father come to heaven," + }, + { + "start": 2106.16, + "end": 2108.16, + "text": " it will be for his gentle daughter's sake." + }, + { + "start": 2108.16, + "end": 2111.16, + "text": " And never, Demis fortune cross her foot." + }, + { + "start": 2111.16, + "end": 2114.16, + "text": " Unless she do it under this excuse." + }, + { + "start": 2114.16, + "end": 2117.16, + "text": " That she is issued to a 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"start": 2162.16, + "end": 2164.16, + "text": " Jessica, I say." + }, + { + "start": 2164.16, + "end": 2165.16, + "text": " Why, Jessica?" + }, + { + "start": 2165.16, + "end": 2167.16, + "text": " Who bit the call? I did not bit the call." + }, + { + "start": 2167.16, + "end": 2171.16, + "text": " Your worship was one to tell me I could do nothing without bidding." + }, + { + "start": 2171.16, + "end": 2173.16, + "text": " Call you. What is your will?" + }, + { + "start": 2173.16, + "end": 2176.16, + "text": " I am bid forth to supper, Jessica." + }, + { + "start": 2176.16, + "end": 2178.16, + "text": " There are my keys, Thou." + }, + { + "start": 2178.16, + "end": 2180.16, + "text": " But where should I go?" + }, + { + "start": 2180.16, + "end": 2183.16, + "text": " Why, I am not bid for love. They flatter me." + }, + { + "start": 2183.16, + "end": 2188.16, + "text": " But yet I'll go in hate to feed upon the prodigal Christian." + }, + { + "start": 2188.16, + "end": 2191.16, + "text": " Jessica, my girl." + }, + { + "start": 2191.16, + "end": 2193.16, + "text": " Look to my house." + }, + { + "start": 2193.16, + "end": 2195.16, + "text": " I am right loath to go." + }, + { + "start": 2195.16, + "end": 2201.16, + "text": " There is some ill abruing towards my rest for either dream of money bags tonight." + }, + { + "start": 2201.16, + "end": 2203.16, + "text": " I beseech you so, go." + }, + { + "start": 2203.16, + "end": 2207.16, + "text": " My young master, Doth, expect your reproach." + }, + { + "start": 2207.16, + "end": 2208.16, + "text": " So do I, his." + }, + { + "start": 2208.16, + "end": 2210.16, + "text": " And they have conspired together." + }, + { + "start": 2210.16, + "end": 2213.16, + "text": " I will not say you shall see a mask," + }, + { + "start": 2213.16, + "end": 2218.16, + "text": " but if you do, then it was not for nothing that my nose fell ableeding on Black Monday last at six o'clock in the morning." + }, + { + "start": 2218.16, + "end": 2220.16, + "text": " What are their masks?" + }, + { + "start": 2220.16, + "end": 2222.16, + "text": " Hear you, me, Jessica?" + }, + { + "start": 2222.16, + "end": 2227.16, + "text": " Lock up my doors, and when you hear the drum and the vile squealing of the Rhinect 5," + }, + { + "start": 2227.16, + "end": 2231.16, + "text": " clamber not you up to the casements then, nor thrust your head into the public street" + }, + { + "start": 2231.16, + "end": 2236.16, + "text": " to gaze on Christian fools with varnished faces, but stop my house's ears." + }, + { + "start": 2236.16, + "end": 2237.16, + "text": " I mean my casements." + }, + { + "start": 2237.16, + "end": 2241.16, + "text": " Let not the sound of shallow, fappery enter my sober house." + }, + { + "start": 2241.16, + "end": 2246.16, + "text": " By Jacob's staff, I swear I have no mind of feasting forth tonight." + }, + { + "start": 2246.16, + "end": 2248.16, + "text": " But I will go." + }, + { + "start": 2248.16, + "end": 2249.16, + "text": " Go you before me, Sarah." + }, + { + "start": 2249.16, + "end": 2251.16, + "text": " So I will come." + }, + { + "start": 2251.16, + "end": 2253.16, + "text": " I will go before, sir." + }, + { + "start": 2253.16, + "end": 2257.16, + "text": " Mistress, look out at window for all this." + }, + { + "start": 2257.16, + "end": 2260.16, + "text": " There will come a question by, will be worth the Jewish's eye." + }, + { + "start": 2260.16, + "end": 2262.16, + "text": " Enough." + }, + { + "start": 2264.16, + "end": 2267.16, + "text": " What says that fool of haggar's offspring?" + }, + { + "start": 2267.16, + "end": 2270.16, + "text": " His words were farewell, Mistress. Nothing else." + }, + { + "start": 2270.16, + "end": 2276.16, + "text": " The patches kind enough, but a huge feeder, snail's slow in profit," + }, + { + "start": 2276.16, + "end": 2279.16, + "text": " and he sleeps by day more than the wild cat." + }, + { + "start": 2279.16, + "end": 2283.16, + "text": " Drone's hyped not with me." + }, + { + "start": 2283.16, + "end": 2289.16, + "text": " Therefore I part with him, and part with him to one that would have him help to waste his borrowed post." + }, + { + "start": 2290.16, + "end": 2294.16, + "text": " Wow. Jessica, stay in." + }, + { + "start": 2294.16, + "end": 2296.16, + "text": " Perhaps I will return immediately." + }, + { + "start": 2296.16, + "end": 2300.16, + "text": " Do as I bid you, shut doors after you." + }, + { + "start": 2300.16, + "end": 2301.16, + "text": " Fast-bind." + }, + { + "start": 2301.16, + "end": 2303.16, + "text": " Fast-bind." + }, + { + "start": 2305.16, + "end": 2308.16, + "text": " I'll probably never stale in thrifty mind." + }, + { + "start": 2312.16, + "end": 2314.16, + "text": " Farewell." + }, + { + "start": 2314.16, + "end": 2318.16, + "text": " And if my fortune be not crossed, I have a father." + }, + { + "start": 2318.16, + "end": 2321.16, + "text": " You a daughter lost." + }, + { + "start": 2325.16, + "end": 2331.16, + "text": " We walk around, pretend down, we're all grown up." + }, + { + "start": 2331.16, + "end": 2336.16, + "text": " Hey rich girls, what can you tell me?" + }, + { + "start": 2336.16, + "end": 2337.16, + "text": " Wow." + }, + { + "start": 2337.16, + "end": 2341.16, + "text": " This is the penthouse under which Lorenzo desires to make stand." + }, + { + "start": 2341.16, + "end": 2343.16, + "text": " It's ours almost past." + }, + { + "start": 2343.16, + "end": 2347.16, + "text": " And it is marvelously outdwells his hour for lovers ever run before the clogged." + }, + { + "start": 2347.16, + "end": 2349.16, + "text": " Swing through." + }, + { + "start": 2349.16, + "end": 2355.16, + "text": " Your patience for my longer boat, not I, but my affairs have made you wake." + }, + { + "start": 2355.16, + "end": 2361.16, + "text": " When you should please to play the thieves for wives, I'll watch as long for you there." + }, + { + "start": 2361.16, + "end": 2365.16, + "text": " Roach, here dwells my father, Jewel." + }, + { + "start": 2365.16, + "end": 2367.16, + "text": " Who?" + }, + { + "start": 2367.16, + "end": 2370.16, + "text": " Who's within?" + }, + { + "start": 2370.16, + "end": 2371.16, + "text": " Why?" + }, + { + "start": 2372.16, + "end": 2374.16, + "text": " Tell me for more certainty." + }, + { + "start": 2374.16, + "end": 2377.16, + "text": " Orbit, I'll swear that I do know your tongue." + }, + { + "start": 2377.16, + "end": 2380.16, + "text": " Lorenzo and thy love." + }, + { + "start": 2380.16, + "end": 2383.16, + "text": " Lorenzo, certain and thy love indeed." + }, + { + "start": 2383.16, + "end": 2385.16, + "text": " For who love I so much?" + }, + { + "start": 2385.16, + "end": 2389.16, + "text": " And now who knows but you Lorenzo, whether I am yours?" + }, + { + "start": 2389.16, + "end": 2392.16, + "text": " Heaven and thy thoughts are witness that thou art." + }, + { + "start": 2392.16, + "end": 2395.16, + "text": " Here, catch this casket." + }, + { + "start": 2395.16, + "end": 2396.16, + "text": " Oh, oh!" + }, + { + "start": 2396.16, + "end": 2398.16, + "text": " It is worth the pain." + }, + { + "start": 2398.16, + "end": 2403.16, + "text": " I am glad to have you not looked at me, but I am much ashamed of my exchange." + }, + { + "start": 2403.16, + "end": 2408.16, + "text": " But love is blind and love cannot see the pretty follies that themselves commit." + }, + { + "start": 2408.16, + "end": 2413.16, + "text": " For if they could, you've made himself with blush to see me thus transform into a boy." + }, + { + "start": 2413.16, + "end": 2415.16, + "text": " You're the same." + }, + { + "start": 2415.16, + "end": 2417.16, + "text": " Boy, you must be my torchbearer." + }, + { + "start": 2417.16, + "end": 2418.16, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 2418.16, + "end": 2420.16, + "text": " Must I hold a candle to my shades?" + }, + { + "start": 2420.16, + "end": 2423.16, + "text": " They in themselves good seem not too too light." + }, + { + "start": 2423.16, + "end": 2427.16, + "text": " Why, it is an office of discovery love, and I should be of scores." + }, + { + "start": 2427.16, + "end": 2432.16, + "text": " So are you sweet, even in the lovely garnish of a boy." + }, + { + "start": 2432.16, + "end": 2434.16, + "text": " But come at once." + }, + { + "start": 2434.16, + "end": 2439.16, + "text": " For the close night, doff play the runaway, and we are stayed for a Bessanius feast." + }, + { + "start": 2439.16, + "end": 2444.16, + "text": " I will make vast the doors and guild myself with some more ducats, and be with you straight." + }, + { + "start": 2446.16, + "end": 2450.16, + "text": " Now, by my hood, a gentile and no Jew." + }, + { + "start": 2450.16, + "end": 2453.16, + "text": " Be sure to me that I love her heartily," + }, + { + "start": 2453.16, + "end": 2458.16, + "text": " for she is wise if I can judge of her." + }, + { + "start": 2458.16, + "end": 2466.16, + "text": " And fair she is if that mine eyes be true, and true she is as she had proved herself." + }, + { + "start": 2466.16, + "end": 2473.16, + "text": " And therefore, like herself, wise, fair and true, shall she be placed in my constant soul." + }, + { + "start": 2473.16, + "end": 2474.16, + "text": " Please." + }, + { + "start": 2474.16, + "end": 2475.16, + "text": " Nurensa." + }, + { + "start": 2475.16, + "end": 2476.16, + "text": " What help that come?" + }, + { + "start": 2477.16, + "end": 2484.16, + "text": " On, gentlemen, away, our masking makes bite this time for our stay." + }, + { + "start": 2489.16, + "end": 2490.16, + "text": " Senior Antonio." + }, + { + "start": 2490.16, + "end": 2491.16, + "text": " Five, five, Grasiano." + }, + { + "start": 2491.16, + "end": 2493.16, + "text": " We're all the rest." + }, + { + "start": 2493.16, + "end": 2494.16, + "text": " There's nine o'clock." + }, + { + "start": 2494.16, + "end": 2496.16, + "text": " Our friends will stay for you." + }, + { + "start": 2496.16, + "end": 2497.16, + "text": " No mask tonight." + }, + { + "start": 2497.16, + "end": 2501.16, + "text": " The wind has come about, but Sarnio presently will go aboard." + }, + { + "start": 2501.16, + "end": 2502.16, + "text": " I am glad on it." + }, + { + "start": 2503.16, + "end": 2506.16, + "text": " I design no more delight than to be on the sale of God tonight." + }, + { + "start": 2506.16, + "end": 2507.16, + "text": " She won't have the time." + }, + { + "start": 2507.16, + "end": 2509.16, + "text": " You want the groove you can't deal with that." + }, + { + "start": 2509.16, + "end": 2511.16, + "text": " All that you see in Canary Blanche." + }, + { + "start": 2511.16, + "end": 2514.16, + "text": " You want the kind of things that gonna stay." + }, + { + "start": 2514.16, + "end": 2515.16, + "text": " Oh, Sarnio!" + }, + { + "start": 2515.16, + "end": 2517.16, + "text": " Well, that's Grasiano." + }, + { + "start": 2517.16, + "end": 2518.16, + "text": " Sarnio, you know." + }, + { + "start": 2518.16, + "end": 2522.16, + "text": " My Antonio, I will miss some speed of my return." + }, + { + "start": 2522.16, + "end": 2525.16, + "text": " Slub or not business for my sake, 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"start": 2557.16, + "end": 2559.16, + "text": " Go draw a side of curtain," + }, + { + "start": 2559.16, + "end": 2562.16, + "text": " and discover the several caskets to this noble prince." + }, + { + "start": 2562.16, + "end": 2563.16, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 2563.16, + "end": 2565.16, + "text": " Now, make your choice." + }, + { + "start": 2565.16, + "end": 2566.16, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 2566.16, + "end": 2569.16, + "text": " The first of gold." + }, + { + "start": 2569.16, + "end": 2572.16, + "text": " Who this inscription bears," + }, + { + "start": 2572.16, + "end": 2577.16, + "text": " who choose if me shall get the gold," + }, + { + "start": 2577.16, + "end": 2578.16, + "text": " and if I shall get the gold," + }, + { + "start": 2578.16, + "end": 2580.16, + "text": " and if I shall get the gold," + }, + { + "start": 2580.16, + "end": 2582.16, + "text": " and if I shall get the gold," + }, + { + "start": 2582.16, + "end": 2584.16, + "text": " and if 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"start": 2630.16, + "end": 2633.16, + "text": " Some gold direct my judgment." + }, + { + "start": 2633.16, + "end": 2634.16, + "text": " Let me see." + }, + { + "start": 2634.16, + "end": 2638.16, + "text": " I will insurvey the inscriptions back again." + }, + { + "start": 2639.16, + "end": 2642.16, + "text": " What says this lead in casket?" + }, + { + "start": 2643.16, + "end": 2649.16, + "text": " Who choose if me must give and hazard all he has?" + }, + { + "start": 2650.16, + "end": 2652.16, + "text": " Must give for what?" + }, + { + "start": 2652.16, + "end": 2654.16, + "text": " For lead?" + }, + { + "start": 2654.16, + "end": 2656.16, + "text": " Hazard for lead?" + }, + { + "start": 2658.16, + "end": 2660.16, + "text": " This casket retains." + }, + { + "start": 2660.16, + "end": 2664.16, + "text": " Men that hazard all do it in hope of fair advantages." + }, + { + "start": 2664.16, + "end": 2668.16, + "text": " A golden mind stumps not to shows of dross," + }, + { + "start": 2668.16, + "end": 2672.16, + "text": " and then nor give nor hazard all for lead." + }, + { + "start": 2673.16, + "end": 2680.16, + "text": " What says this silver with her virgin hue?" + }, + { + "start": 2681.16, + "end": 2687.16, + "text": " Who choose if me shall get as much as he deserves?" + }, + { + "start": 2687.16, + "end": 2690.16, + "text": " As much as he deserves?" + }, + { + "start": 2690.16, + "end": 2693.16, + "text": " Pause there, Morocco." + }, + { + "start": 2693.16, + "end": 2695.16, + "text": " As much as I deserve?" + }, + { + "start": 2695.16, + "end": 2697.16, + "text": " Why? That's the lady." + }, + { + "start": 2697.16, + "end": 2703.16, + "text": " I do invert this erfa and infertune in graces and in qualities of breeding." + }, + { + "start": 2703.16, + "end": 2709.16, + "text": " But more than this, in love, I do deserve." + }, + { + "start": 2710.16, + "end": 2714.16, + "text": " What if I strayed no feather but chose here?" + }, + { + "start": 2715.16, + "end": 2720.16, + "text": " Let's see once more this saying graveding gold." + }, + { + "start": 2720.16, + "end": 2726.16, + "text": " Who choose if me shall gain what many men desire?" + }, + { + "start": 2726.16, + "end": 2728.16, + "text": " Why that's the lady?" + }, + { + "start": 2728.16, + "end": 2734.16, + "text": " All the world desires her from the four corners of the earth they come to kiss this shrine," + }, + { + "start": 2734.16, + "end": 2736.16, + "text": " this mortal breeding saint." + }, + { + "start": 2736.16, + "end": 2743.16, + "text": " The Harkenian deserts and the vasty 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writing." + }, + { + "start": 2834.16, + "end": 2838.16, + "text": " All that glisters is not gold." + }, + { + "start": 2838.16, + "end": 2841.16, + "text": " Often have you heard that told." + }, + { + "start": 2841.16, + "end": 2847.16, + "text": " Many amn his life had sold, but my outside to behold." + }, + { + "start": 2847.16, + "end": 2852.16, + "text": " Gilded tombs do worms in fold." + }, + { + "start": 2852.16, + "end": 2857.16, + "text": " Had you been as wise as bold, young in limbs in judgment old," + }, + { + "start": 2857.16, + "end": 2860.16, + "text": " your answer had not been in scrolled." + }, + { + "start": 2860.16, + "end": 2865.16, + "text": " Fair you well, your suit is cold." + }, + { + "start": 2865.16, + "end": 2869.16, + "text": " Cold indeed and labor lost." + }, + { + "start": 2869.16, + "end": 2875.16, + "text": " Then fair well, heat and welcome frost." + }, + { + "start": 2875.16, + "end": 2877.16, + "text": " Portia, I do." + }, + { + "start": 2877.16, + "end": 2881.16, + "text": " I have to grieve the heart to take a tedious leave." + }, + { + "start": 2881.16, + "end": 2886.16, + "text": " Thus knows as part." + }, + { + "start": 2886.16, + "end": 2891.16, + "text": " Oh, I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 2891.16, + "end": 2893.16, + "text": " A gentle riddance." + }, + { + "start": 2893.16, + "end": 2897.16, + "text": " Draw the curtain, go." + }, + { + "start": 2900.16, + "end": 2903.16, + "text": " Ten duchets." + }, + { + "start": 2903.16, + "end": 2905.16, + "text": " Oh my god, this bed." + }, + { + "start": 2905.16, + "end": 2908.16, + "text": " Do you know more bits now, let it jump and no." + }, + { + "start": 2908.16, + "end": 2910.16, + "text": " Oh my god." + }, + { + "start": 2910.16, + "end": 2914.16, + "text": " Twelve, ready, twelve red." + }, + { + "start": 2914.16, + "end": 2917.16, + "text": " Hey, ho." + }, + { + "start": 2917.16, + "end": 2921.16, + "text": " You have been placed in queue." + }, + { + "start": 2921.16, + "end": 2926.16, + "text": " Your call is valuable, it's very valuable." + }, + { + "start": 2926.16, + "end": 2931.16, + "text": " We hope this does not inconvenience you." + }, + { + "start": 2931.16, + "end": 2935.16, + "text": " You're so valuable, so so valuable." + }, + { + "start": 2935.16, + "end": 2939.16, + "text": " Quick, quick, let Praedy draw the curtain straight." + }, + { + "start": 2939.16, + "end": 2943.16, + "text": " The rest of our are going to obtain his oath and come to his election presently." + }, + { + "start": 2943.16, + "end": 2946.16, + "text": " Yes, madam." + }, + { + "start": 2946.16, + "end": 2948.16, + "text": " Good afternoon." + }, + { + "start": 2948.16, + "end": 2951.16, + "text": " The whole to best handle the casket, snow ball prints." + }, + { + "start": 2951.16, + "end": 2953.16, + "text": " If you choose that, where and I am contained." + }, + { + "start": 2953.16, + "end": 2956.16, + "text": " Straight shall our natural rights be solemnised." + }, + { + "start": 2956.16, + "end": 2961.16, + "text": " But if you fail, without more speech, my lord, you must be gone from hence immediately." + }, + { + "start": 2961.16, + "end": 2964.16, + "text": " I am enjoined by oath to observe three things." + }, + { + "start": 2964.16, + "end": 2969.16, + "text": " But never to unfold to anyone which casket was I chose." + }, + { + "start": 2969.16, + "end": 2976.16, + "text": " Next, if I fail of the right casket, never in my life to who I made in way of marriage." + }, + { + "start": 2976.16, + "end": 2983.16, + "text": " Lastly, if I do fail, unfortunately my choice immediately to leave you and be gone." + }, + { + "start": 2983.16, + "end": 2988.16, + "text": " To these injunctions, everyone doth swear that come to hazard for my worthless self." + }, + { + "start": 2988.16, + "end": 2991.16, + "text": " And so have I addressed me." + }, + { + "start": 2991.16, + "end": 2996.16, + "text": " Fortunately now to my heart's hope." + }, + { + "start": 2996.16, + "end": 3012.16, + "text": " Gold, silver and base lead, who chooseeth me must give and hazard all he had." + }, + { + "start": 3012.16, + "end": 3014.16, + "text": " You shall look fairer." + }, + { + "start": 3014.16, + "end": 3017.16, + "text": " I give or hazard." + }, + { + "start": 3017.16, + "end": 3019.16, + "text": " What says the golden chest?" + }, + { + "start": 3019.16, + "end": 3026.16, + "text": " Who chooseeth me, salgain, what many men desire?" + }, + { + "start": 3026.16, + "end": 3029.16, + "text": " What many men desire?" + }, + { + "start": 3029.16, + "end": 3038.16, + "text": " That many might be meant by the full multitude that choose by show, not learning more than the phone I doth teach." + }, + { + "start": 3038.16, + "end": 3043.16, + "text": " I will not choose what many men desire." + }, + { + "start": 3043.16, + "end": 3050.16, + "text": " Because I will not jump with common spirits and rank me with the barbarous multitudes." + }, + { + "start": 3050.16, + "end": 3051.16, + "text": " Why?" + }, + { + "start": 3051.16, + "end": 3057.16, + "text": " Then to thee, thou silver treacherous." + }, + { + "start": 3057.16, + "end": 3061.16, + "text": " Tell me once more what title thou dost bear." + }, + { + "start": 3061.16, + "end": 3066.16, + "text": " Who chooseeth me, salgate as much as he deserves." + }, + { + "start": 3066.16, + "end": 3076.16, + "text": " And well said, too, for who shall go about to cause unfortunate and be honorable without the stamp of merit?" + }, + { + "start": 3076.16, + "end": 3080.16, + "text": " Well, well, well, but to my choice." + }, + { + "start": 3080.16, + "end": 3084.16, + "text": " Who chooseeth me, shall get as much as he deserves." + }, + { + "start": 3084.16, + "end": 3086.16, + "text": " I will assume desert." + }, + { + "start": 3086.16, + "end": 3088.16, + "text": " Give me a key for this." + }, + { + "start": 3088.16, + "end": 3093.16, + "text": " And instantly unlock my fortunes here." + }, + { + "start": 3096.16, + "end": 3098.16, + "text": " Hmm." + }, + { + "start": 3102.16, + "end": 3105.16, + "text": " It's too long a pause without what you find there." + }, + { + "start": 3105.16, + "end": 3107.16, + "text": " What is here?" + }, + { + "start": 3107.16, + "end": 3111.16, + "text": " The portrait of a blinking idiot." + }, + { + "start": 3111.16, + "end": 3114.16, + "text": " How much I like or doubt to Porsche?" + }, + { + "start": 3114.16, + "end": 3116.16, + "text": " How much I like my hopes?" + }, + { + "start": 3116.16, + "end": 3124.16, + "text": " And my disservance, who chooseeth me, shall have as much as he deserves." + }, + { + "start": 3124.16, + "end": 3127.16, + "text": " Did I deserve no more than a fool's head?" + }, + { + "start": 3127.16, + "end": 3130.16, + "text": " Is that my prize?" + }, + { + "start": 3130.16, + "end": 3133.16, + "text": " And my disserts not better?" + }, + { + "start": 3133.16, + "end": 3138.16, + "text": " To offend and judge our distinct offices and of opposed natures." + }, + { + "start": 3138.16, + "end": 3140.16, + "text": " What is here?" + }, + { + "start": 3142.16, + "end": 3145.16, + "text": " The fire seven times, drive this." + }, + { + "start": 3145.16, + "end": 3150.16, + "text": " Seven times, try that judgment is that did never choose a means." + }, + { + "start": 3150.16, + "end": 3153.16, + "text": " Some there be that shadows kiss." + }, + { + "start": 3153.16, + "end": 3157.16, + "text": " Such half but a shadows bliss." + }, + { + "start": 3157.16, + "end": 3160.16, + "text": " There be fools alive, I wish." + }, + { + "start": 3160.16, + "end": 3164.16, + "text": " Silverer and so was this." + }, + { + "start": 3164.16, + "end": 3166.16, + "text": " Take what wife you will to bed." + }, + { + "start": 3166.16, + "end": 3170.16, + "text": " I will ever be your head." + }, + { + "start": 3170.16, + "end": 3174.16, + "text": " So begun, you are sped." + }, + { + "start": 3174.16, + "end": 3175.16, + "text": " Ahem." + }, + { + "start": 3175.16, + "end": 3179.16, + "text": " It was still more fools alive appear by the time I linger here." + }, + { + "start": 3179.16, + "end": 3182.16, + "text": " With one full head I came to woo." + }, + { + "start": 3182.16, + "end": 3185.16, + "text": " But I go away with two." + }, + { + "start": 3185.16, + "end": 3187.16, + "text": " Sweet, a dear." + }, + { + "start": 3187.16, + "end": 3193.16, + "text": " I will keep my oath patiently to bear my wrath." + }, + { + "start": 3193.16, + "end": 3197.16, + "text": " That's half the candle singe the moth." + }, + { + "start": 3197.16, + "end": 3200.16, + "text": " Oh, these deliberate fools, when they do choose," + }, + { + "start": 3200.16, + "end": 3202.16, + "text": " they have the wisdom by their wit to lose." + }, + { + "start": 3202.16, + "end": 3204.16, + "text": " The ancients saying is no heresy." + }, + { + "start": 3204.16, + "end": 3208.16, + "text": " Hanging and wiving goes by destiny." + }, + { + "start": 3209.16, + "end": 3211.16, + "text": " Yeah, what would you?" + }, + { + "start": 3211.16, + "end": 3214.16, + "text": " Madem, there is a light that you will get a young Venetian," + }, + { + "start": 3214.16, + "end": 3218.16, + "text": " one that comes before to signify the approaching of his lord." + }, + { + "start": 3218.16, + "end": 3222.16, + "text": " From whom he brings sensible regrets to it," + }, + { + "start": 3222.16, + "end": 3227.16, + "text": " besides commends and curties, breathes gift of rich value." + }, + { + "start": 3227.16, + "end": 3232.16, + "text": " Yet I have not seen so likely an ambassador of love." + }, + { + "start": 3232.16, + "end": 3236.16, + "text": " A day in April never came so sweet." + }, + { + "start": 3236.16, + "end": 3240.16, + "text": " I pray that I am half a fear that will say a non he is some kind to thee." + }, + { + "start": 3240.16, + "end": 3243.16, + "text": " They'll spend such high day wit in praising them." + }, + { + "start": 3243.16, + "end": 3245.16, + "text": " He waits below." + }, + { + "start": 3245.16, + "end": 3247.16, + "text": " We are with you straight." + }, + { + "start": 3247.16, + "end": 3251.16, + "text": " Come, come, Nressif, I long to see quick cupids post that come so manally." + }, + { + "start": 3251.16, + "end": 3256.16, + "text": " Bessaniot, lord, love, if thy will it be?" + }, + { + "start": 3260.16, + "end": 3262.16, + "text": " Now, what news on the Rialto?" + }, + { + "start": 3263.16, + "end": 3268.16, + "text": " Why yet it lives there unchecked that Antonio half a ship of rich lading wrecked on the narrow seas?" + }, + { + "start": 3268.16, + "end": 3271.16, + "text": " The good winds, I think they call the place." + }, + { + "start": 3271.16, + "end": 3275.16, + "text": " Very dangerous flat and fatal where the carcasses of many it will ship library." + }, + { + "start": 3275.16, + "end": 3278.16, + "text": " I would it might prove the end of his losses." + }, + { + "start": 3278.16, + "end": 3283.16, + "text": " Let me say our men bathe in the times I said devil across my prayer for here he comes in the likeness of a Jew." + }, + { + "start": 3283.16, + "end": 3285.16, + "text": " How now, shall I look?" + }, + { + "start": 3285.16, + "end": 3287.16, + "text": " What news among the merchants?" + }, + { + "start": 3287.16, + "end": 3288.16, + "text": " You knew." + }, + { + "start": 3289.16, + "end": 3293.16, + "text": " None so well, none so well as you of my daughter's flight." + }, + { + "start": 3293.16, + "end": 3294.16, + "text": " That's certain." + }, + { + "start": 3294.16, + "end": 3298.16, + "text": " I, for my part, knew the tailor that made the wing she flew with all." + }, + { + "start": 3298.16, + "end": 3300.16, + "text": " My own flesh and blood to rebel." + }, + { + "start": 3300.16, + "end": 3305.16, + "text": " There is more between thy flesh and hers than between jet and ivory." + }, + { + "start": 3305.16, + "end": 3309.16, + "text": " More between your bloods than there is between red wine and renish." + }, + { + "start": 3309.16, + "end": 3314.16, + "text": " But tell us, do you hear whether Antonio have had any loss at sea or no?" + }, + { + "start": 3314.16, + "end": 3320.16, + "text": " There I have another bad match, a bankrupt, a prodigal who dares scarce show his head on the realtor." + }, + { + "start": 3320.16, + "end": 3324.16, + "text": " A beggar that was used to come so smug upon the marsh, let him look to his bond." + }, + { + "start": 3324.16, + "end": 3332.16, + "text": " He was want to call me usera, let him look to his bond, he was want to lend money for a Christian courtesy, let him look to his bond." + }, + { + "start": 3332.16, + "end": 3336.16, + "text": " Why, I am sure if he forfeit that will not take his flesh?" + }, + { + "start": 3336.16, + "end": 3337.16, + "text": " What's that good for?" + }, + { + "start": 3337.16, + "end": 3341.16, + "text": " To bait fish with all, if it will feed nothing else, it will feed my revenge." + }, + { + "start": 3341.16, + "end": 3351.16, + "text": " He afterscrazed me and hindered me half a million laughed at my losses, mocked at my gains, squand my nation, thwarted my bargains, cooled my friends, heated my enemies, and what's his reason?" + }, + { + "start": 3351.16, + "end": 3353.16, + "text": " I am a Jew!" + }, + { + "start": 3355.16, + "end": 3370.16, + "text": " That's not a two eyes, that's not a two hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions, fed with the same food, heard with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer." + }, + { + "start": 3370.16, + "end": 3382.16, + "text": " As a Christian is, if you prick us, do we not bleed, if you tickle us, do we not laugh, if you poison us, do we not die and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?" + }, + { + "start": 3382.16, + "end": 3388.16, + "text": " If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that, if a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility?" + }, + { + "start": 3388.16, + "end": 3395.16, + "text": " Revenge, if a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance be by Christian example? Why revenge? The villainy you teach me?" + }, + { + "start": 3395.16, + "end": 3400.16, + "text": " I will execute and it shall go hard, but I will better the instruction!" + }, + { + "start": 3405.16, + "end": 3408.16, + "text": " She's fighting in full of you today." + }, + { + "start": 3408.16, + "end": 3416.16, + "text": " New retail salespeople suggest that a wine with good collapse and spending in the shops, don't let the materialize despite the fact that..." + }, + { + "start": 3417.16, + "end": 3422.16, + "text": " I'm busy having a consortium, sales fellow, I have one hundred plus month of business." + }, + { + "start": 3422.16, + "end": 3426.16, + "text": " That's cute, but that is not a smart investment." + }, + { + "start": 3426.16, + "end": 3430.16, + "text": " I'm not you, what news from general, has the fan my daughter?" + }, + { + "start": 3430.16, + "end": 3435.16, + "text": " I often came where I did hear of her, but cannot find her." + }, + { + "start": 3436.16, + "end": 3438.16, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 3439.16, + "end": 3441.16, + "text": " There, there, there, there." + }, + { + "start": 3441.16, + "end": 3447.16, + "text": " A diamond gun cost me two thousand dockets in Frankfurt." + }, + { + "start": 3447.16, + "end": 3459.16, + "text": " The curse never fell upon our nation till now. I never felt it. Till now, two thousand dockets in that and other precious, precious jewels." + }, + { + "start": 3460.16, + "end": 3469.16, + "text": " I would my daughter would dead at my fuss and the jewels in her ear, which you were hersted my foot and the dockets in her coffin." + }, + { + "start": 3469.16, + "end": 3471.16, + "text": " No news of them, why?" + }, + { + "start": 3471.16, + "end": 3477.16, + "text": " So, and I know not what spent in the search, why they'll lot upon lot!" + }, + { + "start": 3477.16, + "end": 3488.16, + "text": " The thief gone so much and so much to find the thief and no satisfaction, no revenge, nor no ill- luck stirring but what lights on my shoulders, no size but of my breathing, no tears." + }, + { + "start": 3489.16, + "end": 3491.16, + "text": " But of my shedding!" + }, + { + "start": 3491.16, + "end": 3502.16, + "text": " Yes, other men have ill- luck too. Antonio, as I heard in general, has an argacy cast away coming from triple." + }, + { + "start": 3502.16, + "end": 3505.16, + "text": " I thank God, I thank God, is it true?" + }, + { + "start": 3505.16, + "end": 3508.16, + "text": " I spoke with some of the sailors that escaped the wreck." + }, + { + "start": 3508.16, + "end": 3515.16, + "text": " I'm, I'm, ye good, shoeball, good news, good news, ha, ha, where? In general." + }, + { + "start": 3516.16, + "end": 3522.16, + "text": " Your daughter spent in general, as I heard, in one night, four score dockets." + }, + { + "start": 3522.16, + "end": 3525.16, + "text": " Those tickets are daggering me, I shall never see my gold again." + }, + { + "start": 3525.16, + "end": 3527.16, + "text": " Four score dockets at a city." + }, + { + "start": 3527.16, + "end": 3529.16, + "text": " Four score dockets?" + }, + { + "start": 3529.16, + "end": 3535.16, + "text": " There came diverse of Antonio's creditors and my company to Venice that swear he cannot choose but break." + }, + { + "start": 3535.16, + "end": 3540.16, + "text": " I'm very glad of it, I'll play him, I'll torture him, I'm glad of it." + }, + { + "start": 3540.16, + "end": 3545.16, + "text": " One of them showed me a ring that he had of your daughter for a monkey." + }, + { + "start": 3545.16, + "end": 3549.16, + "text": " Out upon her, that torture has made you well." + }, + { + "start": 3549.16, + "end": 3552.16, + "text": " It was my turquoise." + }, + { + "start": 3552.16, + "end": 3557.16, + "text": " I had this of Leah when I was a bachelor." + }, + { + "start": 3557.16, + "end": 3563.16, + "text": " I would not have given her for a wilderness of monkeys." + }, + { + "start": 3563.16, + "end": 3568.16, + "text": " But Antonio is certainly undone." + }, + { + "start": 3569.16, + "end": 3572.16, + "text": " That's true, that's very true." + }, + { + "start": 3572.16, + "end": 3574.16, + "text": " Go, Tubal." + }, + { + "start": 3574.16, + "end": 3581.16, + "text": " Feed me an officer, I will have the heart of him if he forfeit." + }, + { + "start": 3581.16, + "end": 3586.16, + "text": " For where he out of Venice I can make what merchandise I will go, go, go, Tubal." + }, + { + "start": 3586.16, + "end": 3589.16, + "text": " And meet me at our synagogue." + }, + { + "start": 3589.16, + "end": 3601.16, + "text": " The emotion it was, electric, and the stars they all 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So will I never be." + }, + { + "start": 3651.16, + "end": 3659.16, + "text": " So may you miss me, but if you do, you'll make me wish a sin that I had been false warn." + }, + { + "start": 3659.16, + "end": 3662.16, + "text": " But sure you hide." + }, + { + "start": 3662.16, + "end": 3665.16, + "text": " They have overlooked me and divided me." + }, + { + "start": 3665.16, + "end": 3667.16, + "text": " One half of me is yours." + }, + { + "start": 3667.16, + "end": 3670.16, + "text": " The other half, yours." + }, + { + "start": 3670.16, + "end": 3675.16, + "text": " Mine own, I would say, but if mine, then yours." + }, + { + "start": 3675.16, + "end": 3678.16, + "text": " And so all yours." + }, + { + "start": 3678.16, + "end": 3682.16, + "text": " Oh, these naughty times put bars between the owners and their rights." + }, + { + "start": 3682.16, + "end": 3685.16, + "text": " And so though yours, not yours." + }, + { + "start": 3685.16, + "end": 3687.16, + "text": " Let me choose." + }, + { + "start": 3687.16, + "end": 3690.16, + "text": " For as I am, I live upon the rack." + }, + { + "start": 3690.16, + "end": 3695.16, + "text": " Upon the rack, but Sonia, then confess what treason there is, mingled with your love." + }, + { + "start": 3695.16, + "end": 3706.16, + "text": " None, but the ugly treason of mistrust, which makes me fear they enjoying off my love." + }, + { + "start": 3706.16, + "end": 3710.16, + "text": " There may as well be enmity in life between snort and fire as treason on my love." + }, + { + "start": 3710.16, + "end": 3719.16, + "text": " I, but I fear you speak upon the rack where men enforcid do speak anything." + }, + { + "start": 3719.16, + "end": 3722.16, + "text": " Promise me life and I will confess the truth." + }, + { + "start": 3722.16, + "end": 3725.16, + "text": " Well then, confess and live." + }, + { + "start": 3725.16, + "end": 3729.16, + "text": " Confess and love have been the very sum of my confession." + }, + { + "start": 3729.16, + "end": 3731.16, + "text": " Oh, happy torment." + }, + { + "start": 3731.16, + "end": 3735.16, + "text": " When my torch erode of teaching me answers for deliverance." + }, + { + "start": 3735.16, + "end": 3742.16, + "text": " But let me do my fortune and the caskets." + }, + { + "start": 3742.16, + "end": 3745.16, + "text": " It was a poor thing." + }, + { + "start": 3748.16, + "end": 3750.16, + "text": " Away, then." + }, + { + "start": 3750.16, + "end": 3752.16, + "text": " I am locked in one of them." + }, + { + "start": 3752.16, + "end": 3756.16, + "text": " If you do love me, you will find me out." + }, + { + "start": 3756.16, + "end": 3757.16, + "text": " Question, no." + }, + { + "start": 3757.16, + "end": 3758.16, + "text": " Stand all aloof." + }, + { + "start": 3758.16, + "end": 3762.16, + "text": " Naurissa, let music sound while he doth make his choice." + }, + { + "start": 3762.16, + "end": 3768.16, + "text": " Then if he lose, he makes a swan like end, fading 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3913.16, + "end": 3920.16, + "text": " Thus ornament is but the guillage shore to a most dangerous sea." + }, + { + "start": 3920.16, + "end": 3925.16, + "text": " The beauty is scoff, veiling an Indian beauty." + }, + { + "start": 3925.16, + "end": 3932.16, + "text": " In a word, the seeming truth which cunning times put on to entrap the wisest." + }, + { + "start": 3932.16, + "end": 3939.16, + "text": " Therefore, thou gaudy gold, hard food for my dis." + }, + { + "start": 3939.16, + "end": 3944.16, + "text": " I will none of thee." + }, + { + "start": 3944.16, + "end": 3951.16, + "text": " Nor none of thee, a peel and common dredge between mine and mine." + }, + { + "start": 3951.16, + "end": 3968.16, + "text": " But thou, thou meager lad, which rather threatenest than his promise ought, that peelless moves me with an alquance." + }, + { + "start": 3969.16, + "end": 3973.16, + "text": " And here choose thy." + }, + { + "start": 3973.16, + "end": 3976.16, + "text": " Joy be the consqueus." + }, + { + "start": 3976.16, + "end": 3979.16, + "text": " Take these." + }, + { + "start": 3979.16, + "end": 3988.16, + "text": " How all the other passions fleet to err, his doubtful thoughts and rash, embraced, despair and shuddering fear and green-eyed jealousy?" + }, + { + "start": 3988.16, + "end": 3993.16, + "text": " Oh, love, be moderate, alay thy ecstasy." + }, + { + "start": 3993.16, + "end": 4001.16, + "text": " In measure, reign thy joy, scant this excess, I feel too much thy blessing make it less, for fear I serve it." + }, + { + "start": 4001.16, + "end": 4006.16, + "text": " What find I hear?" + }, + { + "start": 4006.16, + "end": 4010.16, + "text": " Fair porches, counterfeit." + }, + { + "start": 4010.16, + "end": 4013.16, + "text": " What demigod hath come so near creation?" + }, + { + "start": 4013.16, + "end": 4019.16, + "text": " With these eyes, or whether righting in the balls of mine seem they in motion?" + }, + { + "start": 4019.16, + "end": 4027.16, + "text": " Here are severed lips, parted with sugar-birth, so sweet a bar should sunder such sweet friends." + }, + { + "start": 4027.16, + "end": 4038.16, + "text": " Here in her hair's the painter plays, the spider and a thmoven a golden mesh to entrap the hearts of men, fast of the knots and cul-bebs, but her eyes." + }, + { + "start": 4038.16, + "end": 4040.16, + "text": " I could say to do them." + }, + { + "start": 4040.16, + "end": 4045.16, + "text": " Having me at one me thinks it should have borrowed a steel, both his and leave itself unfurnished." + }, + { + "start": 4045.16, + "end": 4054.16, + "text": " Yet look, how far are the substance of my prayers, doth wrong this shadow in underpricing it, so far this shadowed of lint behind the substance?" + }, + { + "start": 4054.16, + "end": 4061.16, + "text": " I hear the score, the content of the summary of my fortune." + }, + { + "start": 4062.16, + "end": 4068.16, + "text": " Here that choose not by the view, chants us fair and choose us true." + }, + { + "start": 4068.16, + "end": 4076.16, + "text": " Since this fortune falls to you, be content and seek no new, if you be well pleased with this and hold your fortune for your bliss," + }, + { + "start": 4076.16, + "end": 4085.16, + "text": " turn you where your lily is and claim her with, loving kiss." + }, + { + "start": 4086.16, + "end": 4103.16, + "text": " Agental scroll, fair lady, by your leave I come by note to give unto receive as doubtful whether what I see be true until confirmed signed, ratified by you." + }, + { + "start": 4104.16, + "end": 4119.16, + "text": " You see me, Lord Bessani, where I stand, such as I am, the form myself alone I would not be ambitious in my wish to wish myself much better." + }, + { + "start": 4119.16, + "end": 4130.16, + "text": " Yet for you I would be trebled twenty times myself, a thousand times more fair, ten thousand times more rich, that only to stand high in your account." + }, + { + "start": 4130.16, + "end": 4147.16, + "text": " I might invert you, beauties, living friends, exceed account, but the full sum of me is sum of something which, to turn in gross, is an unlessened girl unscould, unpracticed." + }, + { + "start": 4147.16, + "end": 4151.16, + "text": " Myself and what is mine to you and yours is now converted." + }, + { + "start": 4151.16, + "end": 4166.16, + "text": " But now I was the Lord of this fair mansion, master of my servants, queen hope of myself and even now, but now this house, this servants and this same myself are yours." + }, + { + "start": 4166.16, + "end": 4184.16, + "text": " My Lord, I give them with this ring which when you part from lose or give away let it pressage the ruin of your love and be my vantage to exclaim on you." + }, + { + "start": 4185.16, + "end": 4210.16, + "text": " My Lord, you have bereft me of all words, only my blood speaks to you in my veins, but when this ring parts from this finger then parts life from hence, or then be bold to 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No more pertains to me my Lord than you. Your fortune stood upon the casket there, so did mine too." + }, + { + "start": 4257.16, + "end": 4274.16, + "text": " As the matter falls, for woeing here until I sweat again and swearing until my very roof was dry with oaths of love, at last if promised last, I've got a promise of this fair one here to have her love, provided that your fortune achieved a mistress." + }, + { + "start": 4274.16, + "end": 4280.16, + "text": " Is this true, Narissa? Madam, it is, so you stand least with all." + }, + { + "start": 4280.16, + "end": 4285.16, + "text": " And do you, Grasiano, mean good fifth? Yes, ma'am, my Lord." + }, + { + "start": 4285.16, + "end": 4288.16, + "text": " I feast at thee much honored in your marriage." + }, + { + "start": 4288.16, + "end": 4294.16, + "text": " But who comes here, the Renzo and his infidel? What, my open-eation friends, how do you, my Lord?" + }, + { + "start": 4294.16, + "end": 4296.16, + "text": " The Renzo, Salania, welcome, Heather." + }, + { + "start": 4296.16, + "end": 4304.16, + "text": " If that the youth of mine you interest here, how far to bid you welcome by your leave, I bid my very friends and countrymen sweet Porsche, welcome." + }, + { + "start": 4304.16, + "end": 4308.16, + "text": " So do I, my Lord, they are in time, you welcome. I thank your honour." + }, + { + "start": 4308.16, + "end": 4318.16, + "text": " I pardon my Lord, my purpose was not to have seen you here, but meeting with Salania by the way she did entreat me past all saying nay to come with her along." + }, + { + "start": 4318.16, + "end": 4324.16, + "text": " I did my Lord, and I have reason for it. It's in your Antonio commends, him to you." + }, + { + "start": 4324.16, + "end": 4329.16, + "text": " There I up, his letter, I pray you tell me how my good friend off." + }, + { + "start": 4329.16, + "end": 4335.16, + "text": " Not sick my Lord, nor well, unless in mind, his letter there will show you his estate." + }, + { + "start": 4335.16, + "end": 4338.16, + "text": " Sir, cheer you on stranger, bid her welcome." + }, + { + "start": 4338.16, + "end": 4344.16, + "text": " You're hand, Salania, what's the news from Venice? How do I dot that royal merchant, good Antonio?" + }, + { + "start": 4344.16, + "end": 4349.16, + "text": " I know who will be glad of our success. We are the Jason's, we've won the fleas." + }, + { + "start": 4349.16, + "end": 4352.16, + "text": " I would you had won the fleas that he have lost." + }, + { + "start": 4352.16, + "end": 4358.16, + "text": " There are some shrewd contents in your own same paper that steals the colour from the Salania's cheek." + }, + { + "start": 4358.16, + "end": 4360.16, + "text": " Some dear friend, Ed." + }, + { + "start": 4360.16, + "end": 4364.16, + "text": " Else nothing in the world could turn so much the constitution of any constant man." + }, + { + "start": 4364.16, + "end": 4367.16, + "text": " What? Worse than worse?" + }, + { + "start": 4367.16, + "end": 4372.16, + "text": " With leave, Bassano, I am half yourself, and I must freely have the half of anything that this same paper brings you." + }, + { + "start": 4372.16, + "end": 4374.16, + "text": " Oh, sweet, porter." + }, + { + "start": 4376.16, + "end": 4380.16, + "text": " Here are a few of the unpleasant misfords that ever blot at paper." + }, + { + "start": 4382.16, + "end": 4391.16, + "text": " Gentle lady, when I did first in part my lofty, I freely told you all the wealth I had run in my veins." + }, + { + "start": 4391.16, + "end": 4394.16, + "text": " I was a gentleman." + }, + { + "start": 4394.16, + "end": 4401.16, + "text": " And then I told you true, and yet dear lady, reading myself at nothing, you shall see how much I was a brothered." + }, + { + "start": 4401.16, + "end": 4408.16, + "text": " When I told you that my state was nothing, I should then have told you that I was worse than nothing, for indeed..." + }, + { + "start": 4410.16, + "end": 4419.16, + "text": " I have engaged myself to a dear friend, engaged my friend to his mere enemy, to feed my mains." + }, + { + "start": 4419.16, + "end": 4426.16, + "text": " And here is a letter lady, the paper as the body of my friend, if you word in it, a keeping wound, issuing lifeblood." + }, + { + "start": 4426.16, + "end": 4430.16, + "text": " But let me hear the letter of your friend." + }, + { + "start": 4432.16, + "end": 4436.16, + "text": " Sweet Bassano, my ships have all miscarried." + }, + { + "start": 4436.16, + "end": 4441.16, + "text": " My creditors grow cruel. My state is very low." + }, + { + "start": 4441.16, + "end": 4447.16, + "text": " My bond to the Jew is forfeit, and since in pain it is impossible I should live." + }, + { + "start": 4447.16, + "end": 4454.16, + "text": " All debts are cleared between you and I, if I might, but see you at my death." + }, + { + "start": 4456.16, + "end": 4461.16, + "text": " Notwithstanding you, your pleasure, if your love do not persuade you to come, that not my letter." + }, + { + "start": 4461.16, + "end": 4466.16, + "text": " But is it true, Solano, of all his ventures field?" + }, + { + "start": 4466.16, + "end": 4470.16, + "text": " What? What not one hit? From Tripoli, from Mexico, and England?" + }, + { + "start": 4470.16, + "end": 4475.16, + "text": " From Lisbon, Barberian, and India? And not one vessel skipped the dreadful touch of merchant-murraying rocks?" + }, + { + "start": 4475.16, + "end": 4481.16, + "text": " Not one, my lord. Besides it should appear that if he had the present money to discharge the Jew, he would not take it." + }, + { + "start": 4481.16, + "end": 4483.16, + "text": " What sum owes he the Jew?" + }, + { + "start": 4483.16, + "end": 4485.16, + "text": " For me, three thousand dockets." + }, + { + "start": 4485.16, + "end": 4487.16, + "text": " What? No more." + }, + { + "start": 4487.16, + "end": 4496.16, + "text": " Pay him six thousand, and to face the bond, double six thousand, and then trouble that, before a friend of this description shall lose a hair through Bassano's fault." + }, + { + "start": 4498.16, + "end": 4503.16, + "text": " First go with me to church and call me wife, and then await a venice to your friend." + }, + { + "start": 4503.16, + "end": 4507.16, + "text": " For never shall you lie by Porsche's side with an unwhite soul." + }, + { + "start": 4507.16, + "end": 4513.16, + "text": " You shall have gold to pay the petty debt twenty times over when it is paid. Bring your true friend along." + }, + { + "start": 4513.16, + "end": 4521.16, + "text": " My maid, Nourissa, and myself meantime, will live as maid's and widows. Come away for you shall hence upon your wedding day." + }, + { + "start": 4521.16, + "end": 4524.16, + "text": " But your friends welcome. Show a merry cheer." + }, + { + "start": 4524.16, + "end": 4527.16, + "text": " Since you are dear bought, I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4533.16, + "end": 4535.16, + "text": " I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4535.16, + "end": 4537.16, + "text": " I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4537.16, + "end": 4539.16, + "text": " I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4539.16, + "end": 4541.16, + "text": " I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4541.16, + "end": 4543.16, + "text": " I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4543.16, + "end": 4545.16, + "text": " I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4545.16, + "end": 4547.16, + "text": " I will love you dear." + }, + { + "start": 4547.16, + "end": 4549.16, + "text": " This is my lord Antonio's." + }, + { + "start": 4549.16, + "end": 4551.16, + "text": " All right." + }, + { + "start": 4551.16, + "end": 4553.16, + "text": " Jailer, look to him. Tell not me of mercy." + }, + { + "start": 4553.16, + "end": 4557.16, + "text": " This is the fool that lent out money gratis." + }, + { + "start": 4557.16, + "end": 4559.16, + "text": " Jailer, look to him." + }, + { + "start": 4559.16, + "end": 4561.16, + "text": " Lunch!" + }, + { + "start": 4561.16, + "end": 4565.16, + "text": " Hear me yet, good shall I look?" + }, + { + "start": 4565.16, + "end": 4567.16, + "text": " I have my bond." + }, + { + "start": 4567.16, + "end": 4573.16, + "text": " Speak not against my bond. I have sworn an oath that I will have my bond." + }, + { + "start": 4573.16, + "end": 4581.16, + "text": " That calls me dog before thou hast a cause, but since I am a dog, beware my fangs." + }, + { + "start": 4581.16, + "end": 4585.16, + "text": " The duke shall grant me just it." + }, + { + "start": 4585.16, + "end": 4587.16, + "text": " I pray thee hear me speak my bond." + }, + { + "start": 4587.16, + "end": 4591.16, + "text": " Speak not my bond. I will not hear thee speak. I have my bond." + }, + { + "start": 4591.16, + "end": 4598.16, + "text": " And therefore speak no more. I will not be made a soft and dull-eyed fool to shake the head," + }, + { + "start": 4598.16, + "end": 4602.16, + "text": " relent and sigh and yield to Christian intercessors." + }, + { + "start": 4602.16, + "end": 4605.16, + "text": " Please, Lord, I will have no speaking." + }, + { + "start": 4607.16, + "end": 4609.16, + "text": " I will have my bond." + }, + { + "start": 4609.16, + "end": 4611.16, + "text": " Five minutes." + }, + { + "start": 4611.16, + "end": 4621.16, + "text": " Eight is the most impenetrable curve that ever kept with men. Let him alone." + }, + { + "start": 4621.16, + "end": 4629.16, + "text": " I'll follow him no more with bootless prayers. He seeks my life. His reason will I know." + }, + { + "start": 4629.16, + "end": 4633.16, + "text": " I often delivered from his forefitchers many that have at times made mong to me." + }, + { + "start": 4633.16, + "end": 4635.16, + "text": " Therefore he hates me." + }, + { + "start": 4635.16, + "end": 4638.16, + "text": " I am sure that the duke will never grant this forefitcher to hold." + }, + { + "start": 4638.16, + "end": 4643.16, + "text": " The duke cannot deny the cause of law. Therefore go." + }, + { + "start": 4643.16, + "end": 4651.16, + "text": " These griefs and losses have so baited me that I shall hardly spare a pound of flesh tomorrow to my bloody creditor." + }, + { + "start": 4651.16, + "end": 4658.16, + "text": " Pray God, Bessani, O come to see me pay his debt. And then I cannot." + }, + { + "start": 4668.16, + "end": 4675.16, + "text": " Madam, if you knew to whom you show this honour, how true a gentleman you send relief, how dear a lover of my Lord your husband," + }, + { + "start": 4675.16, + "end": 4679.16, + "text": " I know you would be prouder of the work than customary bounty can enforce." + }, + { + "start": 4679.16, + "end": 4682.16, + "text": " You never did repent for doing good, nor shall not now." + }, + { + "start": 4682.16, + "end": 4685.16, + "text": " For in companions that you converse and waste the time together," + }, + { + "start": 4685.16, + "end": 4690.16, + "text": " whose souls do bear an equal yoke of love, there must be needs, a like proportion of linomance," + }, + { + "start": 4690.16, + "end": 4695.16, + "text": " of manners and of spirit which makes me think that this Antonio, being the bosom lover of my Lord," + }, + { + "start": 4695.16, + "end": 4702.16, + "text": " must needs be like my Lord. If it be so, how little is the cost I've bestowed in purchasing the semblance of my soul" + }, + { + "start": 4702.16, + "end": 4708.16, + "text": " from out the state of hellish cruelty? This comes to near the praising of myself therefore no more of it." + }, + { + "start": 4708.16, + "end": 4709.16, + "text": " Here are the things." + }, + { + "start": 4709.16, + "end": 4716.16, + "text": " Lorenzo, I commit, into your hands, the husbandry and manage of my house until my Lord's return, for my own part," + }, + { + "start": 4716.16, + "end": 4722.16, + "text": " I have toward heaven breathed a secret vow to live in prayer and contemplation, only attended by Naressa here," + }, + { + "start": 4722.16, + "end": 4728.16, + "text": " until her husband and my Lord's return. There is a monastery two miles off, and there we will abide." + }, + { + "start": 4728.16, + "end": 4734.16, + "text": " I do desire you not to deny this imposition, the witch my lover and some necessity now lays upon you." + }, + { + "start": 4734.16, + "end": 4737.16, + "text": " Fair thoughts and happy hours attend you." + }, + { + "start": 4737.16, + "end": 4739.16, + "text": " I wish your ladieship all hearts content." + }, + { + "start": 4739.16, + "end": 4746.16, + "text": " Now, balthazar, as I have ever found the honest true, so let me find these still." + }, + { + "start": 4746.16, + "end": 4751.16, + "text": " Take this same letter and use thou all the endeavor of a man in speed to paguar chambers." + }, + { + "start": 4751.16, + "end": 4758.16, + "text": " See thou render this into my cousin's hand, Dr. Bellario, and look, what notes and garments he doth give thee." + }, + { + "start": 4758.16, + "end": 4763.16, + "text": " Bring them, I pray thee, with a magic speed unto the tragic, to the west ferry road." + }, + { + "start": 4763.16, + "end": 4766.16, + "text": " Waste no time in words, but get the gone, I shall be there before thee." + }, + { + "start": 4766.16, + "end": 4769.16, + "text": " Madam, I go with all convenient speed." + }, + { + "start": 4770.16, + "end": 4774.16, + "text": " Come on, Naressa, I have work in hand that you yet know not of." + }, + { + "start": 4774.16, + "end": 4777.16, + "text": " We'll see our husbands before they think of us." + }, + { + "start": 4777.16, + "end": 4779.16, + "text": " Shall they see us?" + }, + { + "start": 4779.16, + "end": 4780.16, + "text": " They shall." + }, + { + "start": 4780.16, + "end": 4785.16, + "text": " Naressa, but in such a habit that they shall think we are accomplished with that we lack." + }, + { + "start": 4785.16, + "end": 4789.16, + "text": " I'll hold thee anyway, dear, when we are both accoutre like young men." + }, + { + "start": 4789.16, + "end": 4796.16, + "text": " I'll prove the prettier fellow of the two, and speak between the change of man and boy with a reed voice," + }, + { + "start": 4796.16, + "end": 4805.16, + "text": " and turn two mincing steps into a manly stride, and speak of phrase like a fine bragging use," + }, + { + "start": 4805.16, + "end": 4813.16, + "text": " and tell quaint lies how honorable ladies sought my love, which I denying they fell sick and die." + }, + { + "start": 4813.16, + "end": 4816.16, + "text": " What shall we turn to men?" + }, + { + "start": 4816.16, + "end": 4823.16, + "text": " I'll tell thee all my whole device, and therefore haste away for we must measure twenty miles today." + }, + { + "start": 4824.16, + "end": 4830.16, + "text": " Slow down some old split clown bum, your old hit sound dumb, hold it now, crown them," + }, + { + "start": 4830.16, + "end": 4835.16, + "text": " where you found them at God-round town, cut a drown, then it would have flowed blow," + }, + { + "start": 4835.16, + "end": 4840.16, + "text": " full of sugar, cold and loaded in soda, draw for the poor free coffee at the banks," + }, + { + "start": 4840.16, + "end": 4842.16, + "text": " it blew the straw, not more for me to chill." + }, + { + "start": 4842.16, + "end": 4846.16, + "text": " Nico, for me, I want those gaming licenses by noon tomorrow." + }, + { + "start": 4846.16, + "end": 4847.16, + "text": " Yes, Jake." + }, + { + "start": 4847.16, + "end": 4849.16, + "text": " Otherwise we got ourselves to problem." + }, + { + "start": 4849.16, + "end": 4850.16, + "text": " By your joke." + }, + { + "start": 4858.16, + "end": 4859.16, + "text": " Boys Antonio here." + }, + { + "start": 4859.16, + "end": 4861.16, + "text": " Rally, step closer, Christ." + }, + { + "start": 4864.16, + "end": 4866.16, + "text": " Antonio." + }, + { + "start": 4866.16, + "end": 4867.16, + "text": " Hey, Grace." + }, + { + "start": 4867.16, + "end": 4869.16, + "text": " I am sorry for thee." + }, + { + "start": 4869.16, + "end": 4876.16, + "text": " Our opera comes to answer a stony adversary, and a human wretch uncapable of pity," + }, + { + "start": 4876.16, + "end": 4879.16, + "text": " void an empty from any dram of mercy." + }, + { + "start": 4879.16, + "end": 4883.16, + "text": " I have heard your grace obtain great pains to qualify his rigorous course," + }, + { + "start": 4883.16, + "end": 4888.16, + "text": " Mr. T. Stan's obliureate, and that no lawful means can carry me out of his envy's reach," + }, + { + "start": 4888.16, + "end": 4895.16, + "text": " I do oppose my patience to his fury, and I'm armed to suffer with a quietness of spirit," + }, + { + "start": 4895.16, + "end": 4897.16, + "text": " the very tyranny and rage of his." + }, + { + "start": 4898.16, + "end": 4899.16, + "text": " Shana." + }, + { + "start": 4899.16, + "end": 4900.16, + "text": " Shana." + }, + { + "start": 4900.16, + "end": 4901.16, + "text": " Salarena." + }, + { + "start": 4901.16, + "end": 4904.16, + "text": " Come and call the Jew into the court." + }, + { + "start": 4904.16, + "end": 4905.16, + "text": " He's ready at the door." + }, + { + "start": 4905.16, + "end": 4906.16, + "text": " It becomes my law." + }, + { + "start": 4906.16, + "end": 4907.16, + "text": " Right room." + }, + { + "start": 4907.16, + "end": 4909.16, + "text": " It's found before at the place." + }, + { + "start": 4909.16, + "end": 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+ "text": " The wolf." + }, + { + "start": 4925.16, + "end": 4926.16, + "text": " The wolf." + }, + { + "start": 4926.16, + "end": 4928.16, + "text": " The wolf thinks." + }, + { + "start": 4928.16, + "end": 4930.16, + "text": " And I think so too." + }, + { + "start": 4930.16, + "end": 4935.16, + "text": " The thou but leadest this fashion of I'm Alice to the last hour of act," + }, + { + "start": 4935.16, + "end": 4938.16, + "text": " a lentice thought thou shou'd I mercy and remore." + }, + { + "start": 4938.16, + "end": 4944.16, + "text": " Small strange, then, is thy strange apparent cruelty." + }, + { + "start": 4944.16, + "end": 4950.16, + "text": " We'll now exact the penalty, which is a pound of this poor merchant's flesh." + }, + { + "start": 4950.16, + "end": 4953.16, + "text": " Now we'll not only loose the forefisher," + }, + { + "start": 4953.16, + "end": 4956.16, + "text": " but touch with human gentleness and love," + }, + { + "start": 4956.16, + "end": 4959.16, + "text": " forgive a moiety of the principle." + }, + { + "start": 4959.16, + "end": 4962.16, + "text": " Glancing an eye of pity on his losses" + }, + { + "start": 4962.16, + "end": 4964.16, + "text": " that have of late so huddled on his back," + }, + { + "start": 4964.16, + "end": 4966.16, + "text": " enough to press a royal merchant down," + }, + { + "start": 4966.16, + "end": 4972.16, + "text": " and plucked commissaration of his state from brassy bosoms and rough hearts of flint," + }, + { + "start": 4972.16, + "end": 4974.16, + "text": " from stamen, turks and tartas," + }, + { + "start": 4974.16, + "end": 4978.16, + "text": " never trained to offices of tender courtesy." + }, + { + "start": 4979.16, + "end": 4983.16, + "text": " We all expect a gentle answer to you." + }, + { + "start": 4984.16, + "end": 4987.16, + "text": " I have possessed your grace of what I purpose," + }, + { + "start": 4987.16, + "end": 4993.16, + "text": " and by your holy Sabbath have I sworn to have the dew and forfeit of my bond." + }, + { + "start": 4994.16, + "end": 4999.16, + "text": " You'll ask me why I rather choose to have a waste of carrying flesh" + }, + { + "start": 4999.16, + "end": 5002.16, + "text": " than to receive 3,000 dockets." + }, + { + "start": 5003.16, + "end": 5006.16, + "text": " I'll not answer that, but say," + }, + { + "start": 5007.16, + "end": 5009.16, + "text": " mint as my humour." + }, + { + "start": 5010.16, + "end": 5012.16, + "text": " Is it answered?" + }, + { + "start": 5012.16, + "end": 5015.16, + "text": " Some men there are, love not," + }, + { + "start": 5015.16, + "end": 5020.16, + "text": " gaping pigs, some that are mad if they behold a cast," + }, + { + "start": 5020.16, + "end": 5023.16, + "text": " and others, when the bagpipe sings in the nose," + }, + { + "start": 5023.16, + "end": 5025.16, + "text": " cannot contain their urine," + }, + { + "start": 5025.16, + "end": 5027.16, + "text": " for affection, mistress of passion," + }, + { + "start": 5027.16, + "end": 5031.16, + "text": " sways it to the mood of what it likes or loads." + }, + { + "start": 5031.16, + "end": 5032.16, + "text": " Now, for your answer," + }, + { + "start": 5032.16, + "end": 5034.16, + "text": " as there is no firm reason to be rendered," + }, + { + "start": 5034.16, + "end": 5036.16, + "text": " why he cannot abide a gaping pig," + }, + { + "start": 5036.16, + "end": 5038.16, + "text": " why he, a harmless necessary cat," + }, + { + "start": 5038.16, + "end": 5040.16, + "text": " why he, a woolen bagpipe," + }, + { + "start": 5040.16, + "end": 5044.16, + "text": " but a force must yield to such inevitable shame" + }, + { + "start": 5044.16, + "end": 5047.16, + "text": " as to offend himself being offended." + }, + { + "start": 5047.16, + "end": 5049.16, + "text": " So can I give no reason," + }, + { + "start": 5049.16, + "end": 5052.16, + "text": " or I will not, more than a lodged hate," + }, + { + "start": 5052.16, + "end": 5055.16, + "text": " and a certain loathing I bear Antonio," + }, + { + "start": 5055.16, + "end": 5059.16, + "text": " that I follow thus, are losing suit against him." + }, + { + "start": 5061.16, + "end": 5063.16, + "text": " Are you answered?" + }, + { + "start": 5064.16, + "end": 5065.16, + "text": " This is no answer," + }, + { + "start": 5065.16, + "end": 5068.16, + "text": " though I'm feeling mad to excuse the current of thy cruelty." + }, + { + "start": 5068.16, + "end": 5070.16, + "text": " I'm not bound to please thee with my answers." + }, + { + "start": 5070.16, + "end": 5072.16, + "text": " Do all men kill the things they do not love?" + }, + { + "start": 5072.16, + "end": 5074.16, + "text": " Hates any man the thing he would not kill?" + }, + { + "start": 5074.16, + "end": 5076.16, + "text": " Every offence is not a hit at first." + }, + { + "start": 5076.16, + "end": 5079.16, + "text": " What, once thou have a serpent sting thee twice?" + }, + { + "start": 5079.16, + "end": 5082.16, + "text": " I pray you, think you question with the Jew." + }, + { + "start": 5082.16, + "end": 5084.16, + "text": " You may as well go stand upon the beach" + }, + { + "start": 5084.16, + "end": 5086.16, + "text": " and bid the main flood bait his usual height." + }, + { + "start": 5086.16, + "end": 5088.16, + "text": " You may as well use question with the wolf," + }, + { + "start": 5088.16, + "end": 5091.16, + "text": " why he have made thee you bleep for the lamb." + }, + { + "start": 5091.16, + "end": 5093.16, + "text": " You may as well forbid the mountain pines" + }, + { + "start": 5093.16, + "end": 5095.16, + "text": " to wag their high tops and to make no noise" + }, + { + "start": 5095.16, + "end": 5098.16, + "text": " when they are threatened with the gusts of heaven." + }, + { + "start": 5098.16, + "end": 5100.16, + "text": " You may as well do anything most hard," + }, + { + "start": 5100.16, + "end": 5102.16, + "text": " as seek to soften that," + }, + { + "start": 5102.16, + "end": 5107.16, + "text": " that which what's harder is Jewish heart." + }, + { + "start": 5108.16, + "end": 5111.16, + "text": " Therefore I do beseech you make no more offers," + }, + { + "start": 5111.16, + "end": 5112.16, + "text": " use no farther means," + }, + { + "start": 5112.16, + "end": 5115.16, + "text": " but with all brief and plain conveniency," + }, + { + "start": 5115.16, + "end": 5117.16, + "text": " let me have judgment," + }, + { + "start": 5117.16, + "end": 5120.16, + "text": " and the Jew is will." + }, + { + "start": 5121.16, + "end": 5124.16, + "text": " For thy three thousand dockets?" + }, + { + "start": 5125.16, + "end": 5126.16, + "text": " Here is six." + }, + { + "start": 5126.16, + "end": 5128.16, + "text": " If every docket in six thousand dockets" + }, + { + "start": 5128.16, + "end": 5130.16, + "text": " were in six parts and every part of docket" + }, + { + "start": 5130.16, + "end": 5133.16, + "text": " I would not draw them, I would have my bond." + }, + { + "start": 5133.16, + "end": 5135.16, + "text": " How shall thou hope for mercy?" + }, + { + "start": 5135.16, + "end": 5136.16, + "text": " Rendering none." + }, + { + "start": 5136.16, + "end": 5137.16, + "text": " What judgment shall I dread?" + }, + { + "start": 5137.16, + "end": 5138.16, + "text": " Doing no wrong." + }, + { + "start": 5138.16, + "end": 5141.16, + "text": " You have among you many a purchased slave," + }, + { + "start": 5141.16, + "end": 5143.16, + "text": " which like your asses and your dogs" + }, + { + "start": 5143.16, + "end": 5146.16, + "text": " and mules you use in abject and in slavish parts," + }, + { + "start": 5146.16, + "end": 5148.16, + "text": " because you bought them." + }, + { + "start": 5148.16, + "end": 5149.16, + "text": " Shall I say to you," + }, + { + "start": 5149.16, + "end": 5151.16, + "text": " why sweat there under burdens?" + }, + { + "start": 5151.16, + "end": 5153.16, + "text": " Let their beds be made as soft as yours," + }, + { + "start": 5153.16, + "end": 5156.16, + "text": " and let their palettes be seasoned with such veons." + }, + { + "start": 5156.16, + "end": 5158.16, + "text": " You will answer the slaves are ours." + }, + { + "start": 5158.16, + "end": 5160.16, + "text": " So do I answer you." + }, + { + "start": 5160.16, + "end": 5163.16, + "text": " The pound of flesh which I demand of him is dearly bals." + }, + { + "start": 5163.16, + "end": 5165.16, + "text": " It is mine, and I will have it." + }, + { + "start": 5165.16, + "end": 5167.16, + "text": " If you deny me, fire upon your law." + }, + { + "start": 5167.16, + "end": 5168.16, + "text": " I stand for judgment." + }, + { + "start": 5168.16, + "end": 5170.16, + "text": " Answer, shall I have it?" + }, + { + "start": 5170.16, + "end": 5173.16, + "text": " Upon my power, I may dismiss this court." + }, + { + "start": 5173.16, + "end": 5177.16, + "text": " Unless Bellario, a lunid doctor," + }, + { + "start": 5177.16, + "end": 5179.16, + "text": " why have sent forth to determine this?" + }, + { + "start": 5179.16, + "end": 5180.16, + "text": " Come here today." + }, + { + "start": 5180.16, + "end": 5181.16, + "text": " My lord." + }, + { + "start": 5181.16, + "end": 5184.16, + "text": " Here stays without a messenger with letters from the doctor." + }, + { + "start": 5184.16, + "end": 5186.16, + "text": " You come from Padua Chambers." + }, + { + "start": 5186.16, + "end": 5189.16, + "text": " Bring us the letter, call the messenger." + }, + { + "start": 5189.16, + "end": 5191.16, + "text": " Good, Sharon's on you." + }, + { + "start": 5191.16, + "end": 5193.16, + "text": " What might courage yet?" + }, + { + "start": 5193.16, + "end": 5194.16, + "text": " The Jews shall have my flesh." + }, + { + "start": 5194.16, + "end": 5198.16, + "text": " Blood bones in all air thou shalt loose from me, one drop of blood." + }, + { + "start": 5198.16, + "end": 5200.16, + "text": " I am attainted with her of the flock." + }, + { + "start": 5200.16, + "end": 5202.16, + "text": " Meet us for death." + }, + { + "start": 5202.16, + "end": 5206.16, + "text": " The weakest kind of fruit drops earliest to the ground." + }, + { + "start": 5207.16, + "end": 5210.16, + "text": " And so, let me." + }, + { + "start": 5211.16, + "end": 5214.16, + "text": " You cannot better be employed, Bessania," + }, + { + "start": 5214.16, + "end": 5217.16, + "text": " to live still and write my nebidav." + }, + { + "start": 5217.16, + "end": 5220.16, + "text": " I'm here from Padua, from Bellario." + }, + { + "start": 5220.16, + "end": 5223.16, + "text": " From both my lord and Bellario greets your greets." + }, + { + "start": 5223.16, + "end": 5225.16, + "text": " Why does Thou wet thy knife so earnestly?" + }, + { + "start": 5225.16, + "end": 5228.16, + "text": " To cut the forefooter from that bankrupt there." + }, + { + "start": 5228.16, + "end": 5233.16, + "text": " Not on my soul, but on my soul, harsh Jew thou make us thy knife keen." + }, + { + "start": 5233.16, + "end": 5235.16, + "text": " But no metal can." + }, + { + "start": 5235.16, + "end": 5237.16, + "text": " No, not the hangman's axe." + }, + { + "start": 5237.16, + "end": 5239.16, + "text": " Bare half the keenness of thy sharp envy." + }, + { + "start": 5239.16, + "end": 5241.16, + "text": " Can no prayers pierce thee?" + }, + { + "start": 5241.16, + "end": 5243.16, + "text": " No, none that Thou has to wait enough to make." + }, + { + "start": 5243.16, + "end": 5245.16, + "text": " Oh, thou be damned!" + }, + { + "start": 5245.16, + "end": 5248.16, + "text": " Inextrable dog hocks!" + }, + { + "start": 5248.16, + "end": 5251.16, + "text": " And for thy life, let justice be accused." + }, + { + "start": 5251.16, + "end": 5256.16, + "text": " For thy desires are war-wish, bloody, starved and ravenous." + }, + { + "start": 5256.16, + "end": 5259.16, + "text": " Still Thou canst rail the seal come off my barn," + }, + { + "start": 5259.16, + "end": 5262.16, + "text": " Thou but offends Thou longs to speak so loud." + }, + { + "start": 5262.16, + "end": 5264.16, + "text": " Repair thy whist, good you," + }, + { + "start": 5264.16, + "end": 5267.16, + "text": " Thou it will fall to cural us ruin." + }, + { + "start": 5267.16, + "end": 5270.16, + "text": " I stand here for law." + }, + { + "start": 5270.16, + "end": 5273.16, + "text": " This letter from Bellario," + }, + { + "start": 5273.16, + "end": 5276.16, + "text": " death commend a young and learned doctor," + }, + { + "start": 5276.16, + "end": 5278.16, + "text": " to work, children." + }, + { + "start": 5278.16, + "end": 5279.16, + "text": " Where is he?" + }, + { + "start": 5279.16, + "end": 5281.16, + "text": " The attendant here hard-buy to know your answer," + }, + { + "start": 5281.16, + "end": 5282.16, + "text": " whether you'll admit him." + }, + { + "start": 5282.16, + "end": 5285.16, + "text": " With all my heart, don't give him courty-stond back to this place." + }, + { + "start": 5285.16, + "end": 5290.16, + "text": " One time, I'll court you here, Bellario's letter." + }, + { + "start": 5291.16, + "end": 5294.16, + "text": " Your grace shall understand that at the receipt of your letter," + }, + { + "start": 5294.16, + "end": 5297.16, + "text": " I am very sick." + }, + { + "start": 5297.16, + "end": 5300.16, + "text": " In the instant that your messenger came," + }, + { + "start": 5300.16, + "end": 5304.16, + "text": " in loving visitation was with me a young doctor." + }, + { + "start": 5304.16, + "end": 5307.16, + "text": " His name is Balthazar." + }, + { + "start": 5307.16, + "end": 5310.16, + "text": " He is furnished with my opinion," + }, + { + "start": 5310.16, + "end": 5312.16, + "text": " which, better with his unlearning," + }, + { + "start": 5312.16, + "end": 5316.16, + "text": " the greatness whereof I cannot enough commend, comes with him." + }, + { + "start": 5316.16, + "end": 5319.16, + "text": " That my opportunity to fill up your graces" + }, + { + "start": 5319.16, + "end": 5322.16, + "text": " request in my stead." + }, + { + "start": 5322.16, + "end": 5323.16, + "text": " I'll be seated you," + }, + { + "start": 5323.16, + "end": 5326.16, + "text": " let his lack of years be no impediment," + }, + { + "start": 5326.16, + "end": 5329.16, + "text": " to let him lack a reverend estimation," + }, + { + "start": 5329.16, + "end": 5334.16, + "text": " for I never knew so young a body with so old ahead." + }, + { + "start": 5334.16, + "end": 5337.16, + "text": " You hear the learned Bellario, what he writes?" + }, + { + "start": 5337.16, + "end": 5341.16, + "text": " And here I take it, is the doctor come." + }, + { + "start": 5341.16, + "end": 5343.16, + "text": " Here you are, hand." + }, + { + "start": 5343.16, + "end": 5345.16, + "text": " Come you from old Bellario." + }, + { + "start": 5345.16, + "end": 5347.16, + "text": " You are welcome." + }, + { + "start": 5347.16, + "end": 5349.16, + "text": " Take your place." + }, + { + "start": 5349.16, + "end": 5351.16, + "text": " Are you acquainted with the difference" + }, + { + "start": 5351.16, + "end": 5353.16, + "text": " that holds the present question in the court?" + }, + { + "start": 5353.16, + "end": 5355.16, + "text": " I am informed thoroughly of the cause," + }, + { + "start": 5355.16, + "end": 5358.16, + "text": " which is the merchant here and which the Jew." + }, + { + "start": 5358.16, + "end": 5363.16, + "text": " And so you know, an old Shylock, both stand forth." + }, + { + "start": 5363.16, + "end": 5365.16, + "text": " Is your name Shylock?" + }, + { + "start": 5365.16, + "end": 5368.16, + "text": " Shylock, is my name." + }, + { + "start": 5368.16, + "end": 5371.16, + "text": " The strange natures, as you two follow," + }, + { + "start": 5371.16, + "end": 5373.16, + "text": " yet in such rule that the Venetian law" + }, + { + "start": 5373.16, + "end": 5376.16, + "text": " cannot impune you as you do proceed." + }, + { + "start": 5376.16, + "end": 5379.16, + "text": " You stand within his danger, do you not?" + }, + { + "start": 5379.16, + "end": 5382.16, + "text": " Aye. So he says." + }, + { + "start": 5382.16, + "end": 5384.16, + "text": " Do you confess the bond?" + }, + { + "start": 5384.16, + "end": 5386.16, + "text": " I do." + }, + { + "start": 5386.16, + "end": 5388.16, + "text": " Then must the Jew be merciful." + }, + { + "start": 5388.16, + "end": 5390.16, + "text": " On what compulsion must I?" + }, + { + "start": 5390.16, + "end": 5392.16, + "text": " Tell me that." + }, + { + "start": 5392.16, + "end": 5395.16, + "text": " The quality of mercy is not strained." + }, + { + "start": 5395.16, + "end": 5398.16, + "text": " It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven" + }, + { + "start": 5398.16, + "end": 5400.16, + "text": " upon the place beneath." + }, + { + "start": 5400.16, + "end": 5402.16, + "text": " It is twice blessed." + }, + { + "start": 5402.16, + "end": 5405.16, + "text": " It blesseth him that gives and him that takes." + }, + { + "start": 5405.16, + "end": 5407.16, + "text": " It is mightiest." + }, + { + "start": 5407.16, + "end": 5409.16, + "text": " In the mightiest it becomes the Throne of Monarch better" + }, + { + "start": 5409.16, + "end": 5411.16, + "text": " than his crown." + }, + { + "start": 5411.16, + "end": 5414.16, + "text": " His scepter shows the force of temporal power." + }, + { + "start": 5414.16, + "end": 5417.16, + "text": " The attribute to awe and majesty" + }, + { + "start": 5417.16, + "end": 5421.16, + "text": " wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings." + }, + { + "start": 5421.16, + "end": 5426.16, + "text": " But mercy is above this sceptered sway." + }, + { + "start": 5426.16, + "end": 5430.16, + "text": " It is enthroned in the hearts of kings." + }, + { + "start": 5431.16, + "end": 5434.16, + "text": " It is an attribute to God himself." + }, + { + "start": 5434.16, + "end": 5436.16, + "text": " And earthly power doeth then show" + }, + { + "start": 5436.16, + "end": 5440.16, + "text": " likeest gods when mercy seasons justice." + }, + { + "start": 5440.16, + "end": 5444.16, + "text": " Therefore, Jew, though justice be thy plea, consider this." + }, + { + "start": 5444.16, + "end": 5447.16, + "text": " That in the course of justice," + }, + { + "start": 5447.16, + "end": 5449.16, + "text": " none of us should see salvation." + }, + { + "start": 5449.16, + "end": 5452.16, + "text": " We do pray for mercy." + }, + { + "start": 5452.16, + "end": 5455.16, + "text": " And that same prayer doth teach us all to render" + }, + { + "start": 5455.16, + "end": 5457.16, + "text": " the deeds of mercy." + }, + { + "start": 5457.16, + "end": 5460.16, + "text": " I have spoke thus much to mitigate the justice of thy plea," + }, + { + "start": 5460.16, + "end": 5461.16, + "text": " which, if thou follow," + }, + { + "start": 5461.16, + "end": 5464.16, + "text": " this strict court of Venice must needs" + }, + { + "start": 5464.16, + "end": 5466.16, + "text": " give sentence against the merchant there." + }, + { + "start": 5466.16, + "end": 5468.16, + "text": " My deeds upon my head, I crave the law," + }, + { + "start": 5468.16, + "end": 5471.16, + "text": " the penalty and forfeit of my bond." + }, + { + "start": 5471.16, + "end": 5473.16, + "text": " Is he not able to discharge the money?" + }, + { + "start": 5473.16, + "end": 5475.16, + "text": " Yes, here I tender it for him in the court." + }, + { + "start": 5475.16, + "end": 5477.16, + "text": " Yeah, twice the song." + }, + { + "start": 5477.16, + "end": 5481.16, + "text": " If that were not sub-base, I would be blind to pet tantames or." + }, + { + "start": 5481.16, + "end": 5484.16, + "text": " On forfeit of my hands, my head, my heart," + }, + { + "start": 5484.16, + "end": 5486.16, + "text": " if this were not sub-base," + }, + { + "start": 5486.16, + "end": 5490.16, + "text": " it must appear that malice bears down truth." + }, + { + "start": 5490.16, + "end": 5495.16, + "text": " And I perceive you, Duke, rest once the Lord to your authority," + }, + { + "start": 5495.16, + "end": 5498.16, + "text": " to do a great right, do a little wrong," + }, + { + "start": 5498.16, + "end": 5501.16, + "text": " and curb this cruel devil of his will." + }, + { + "start": 5501.16, + "end": 5503.16, + "text": " It must not be there is no power in Venice" + }, + { + "start": 5503.16, + "end": 5505.16, + "text": " can alter a decree established." + }, + { + "start": 5505.16, + "end": 5507.16, + "text": " It will be recorded for a precedent," + }, + { + "start": 5507.16, + "end": 5509.16, + "text": " and many an error by the same example" + }, + { + "start": 5509.16, + "end": 5511.16, + "text": " will rush into the state and cannot be." + }, + { + "start": 5511.16, + "end": 5513.16, + "text": " A Daniel come to judgment." + }, + { + "start": 5513.16, + "end": 5514.16, + "text": " Yeah, a Daniel." + }, + { + "start": 5514.16, + "end": 5517.16, + "text": " Oh, why is young George, how I do honor thee?" + }, + { + "start": 5517.16, + "end": 5519.16, + "text": " I pray you let me look upon the bond." + }, + { + "start": 5519.16, + "end": 5522.16, + "text": " Here it is, most reverend Doctor, here it is." + }, + { + "start": 5525.16, + "end": 5528.16, + "text": " Shall I look this thrice thy money offered thee?" + }, + { + "start": 5528.16, + "end": 5532.16, + "text": " An oath, an oath I have an oath in heaven." + }, + { + "start": 5532.16, + "end": 5534.16, + "text": " Shall I lay perjury upon myself?" + }, + { + "start": 5534.16, + "end": 5536.16, + "text": " No, not for Venice." + }, + { + "start": 5536.16, + "end": 5539.16, + "text": " Why does bond is forfeit and lawfully by this," + }, + { + "start": 5539.16, + "end": 5541.16, + "text": " the Duke may claim a pound of flesh" + }, + { + "start": 5541.16, + "end": 5544.16, + "text": " to be by him cut off nearest the merchant's heart." + }, + { + "start": 5544.16, + "end": 5548.16, + "text": " Be merciful, take thrice thy money," + }, + { + "start": 5548.16, + "end": 5549.16, + "text": " bid me tear the bond." + }, + { + "start": 5549.16, + "end": 5551.16, + "text": " When is his pay according to the tenor?" + }, + { + "start": 5551.16, + "end": 5554.16, + "text": " Proceed to judgment by my soul." + }, + { + "start": 5554.16, + "end": 5558.16, + "text": " I swear there is no power in the tongue of man to alter me." + }, + { + "start": 5558.16, + "end": 5562.16, + "text": " I stay here on my bond." + }, + { + "start": 5562.16, + "end": 5565.16, + "text": " Most heartily I do be siege the court to give the judgment." + }, + { + "start": 5565.16, + "end": 5569.16, + "text": " Why then, thus it is, you must prepare your bosom for his knife." + }, + { + "start": 5570.16, + "end": 5573.16, + "text": " Noble George, excellent young man." + }, + { + "start": 5573.16, + "end": 5577.16, + "text": " The intent and purpose of the law have full relation to the penalty" + }, + { + "start": 5577.16, + "end": 5579.16, + "text": " which here appear to do upon the bond." + }, + { + "start": 5579.16, + "end": 5582.16, + "text": " It is very true, wise and upright, George." + }, + { + "start": 5582.16, + "end": 5584.16, + "text": " How much more elder are thou than thy looks?" + }, + { + "start": 5584.16, + "end": 5586.16, + "text": " Therefore, lay bare your bosom." + }, + { + "start": 5586.16, + "end": 5589.16, + "text": " Have your hands or wife, I will need a more rest." + }, + { + "start": 5589.16, + "end": 5591.16, + "text": " So says the bond, nothing, Noble George." + }, + { + "start": 5591.16, + "end": 5593.16, + "text": " nearest his heart, those are the very words." + }, + { + "start": 5593.16, + "end": 5596.16, + "text": " This is so, are there balance here to weigh the flesh?" + }, + { + "start": 5596.16, + "end": 5597.16, + "text": " I have them ready." + }, + { + "start": 5598.16, + "end": 5601.16, + "text": " Have by some surgeon, Shylock, on your charge to stop his wounds" + }, + { + "start": 5601.16, + "end": 5602.16, + "text": " lest he do bleed to death." + }, + { + "start": 5602.16, + "end": 5604.16, + "text": " Is it so nominated in the bond?" + }, + { + "start": 5604.16, + "end": 5606.16, + "text": " It is not so expressed, but what of that?" + }, + { + "start": 5606.16, + "end": 5608.16, + "text": " For a good you do so much for charity." + }, + { + "start": 5608.16, + "end": 5609.16, + "text": " Cannot find it." + }, + { + "start": 5609.16, + "end": 5611.16, + "text": " It is not in the bond." + }, + { + "start": 5614.16, + "end": 5616.16, + "text": " You, merchant, have you anything to say?" + }, + { + "start": 5617.16, + "end": 5618.16, + "text": " But little." + }, + { + "start": 5620.16, + "end": 5622.16, + "text": " I am the arm and will prepared." + }, + { + "start": 5623.16, + "end": 5625.16, + "text": " Give me your hand, Bessani." + }, + { + "start": 5627.16, + "end": 5628.16, + "text": " Fair you well." + }, + { + "start": 5629.16, + "end": 5632.16, + "text": " Weave not that I am fallen to this for you." + }, + { + "start": 5633.16, + "end": 5638.16, + "text": " For herein' fortune shows herself more kind than is her custom." + }, + { + "start": 5638.16, + "end": 5642.16, + "text": " It is still her use to let the wretched man out live his wealth." + }, + { + "start": 5642.16, + "end": 5646.16, + "text": " To view with hollow iron, wrinkled brow and age of poverty" + }, + { + "start": 5646.16, + "end": 5652.16, + "text": " from which lingering penance of such misery does she cut me off." + }, + { + "start": 5653.16, + "end": 5656.16, + "text": " Can make me to your honourable wife." + }, + { + "start": 5657.16, + "end": 5660.16, + "text": " Tell her the process of Antonio's end." + }, + { + "start": 5661.16, + "end": 5663.16, + "text": " Say how I loved you." + }, + { + "start": 5663.16, + "end": 5665.16, + "text": " Speak me fair in death." + }, + { + "start": 5666.16, + "end": 5668.16, + "text": " And when the tale is told," + }, + { + "start": 5668.16, + "end": 5669.16, + "text": " bid her be judge," + }, + { + "start": 5669.16, + "end": 5672.16, + "text": " whether Bessani or had not once a love." + }, + { + "start": 5672.16, + "end": 5675.16, + "text": " Repent but you that you shall lose your friend." + }, + { + "start": 5676.16, + "end": 5678.16, + "text": " And he repents not that he pays your debt." + }, + { + "start": 5679.16, + "end": 5681.16, + "text": " For if the Jew do cut but deep enough," + }, + { + "start": 5682.16, + "end": 5686.16, + "text": " I'll pay it presently with all my heart." + }, + { + "start": 5687.16, + "end": 5688.16, + "text": " Antonio." + }, + { + "start": 5689.16, + "end": 5696.16, + "text": " I am married to a wife which she's as dear to me as life itself," + }, + { + "start": 5696.16, + "end": 5701.16, + "text": " but life itself and her wife and world are not with me as steamed above their life." + }, + { + "start": 5701.16, + "end": 5703.16, + "text": " I would lose all my sacrifice," + }, + { + "start": 5704.16, + "end": 5706.16, + "text": " here to the stable to deliver you." + }, + { + "start": 5707.16, + "end": 5711.16, + "text": " Your wife would give you a little thanks for that if you were by to hear you make the offer." + }, + { + "start": 5711.16, + "end": 5714.16, + "text": " I have a wife whom I protest, I love," + }, + { + "start": 5714.16, + "end": 5719.16, + "text": " I would she wear in heaven so she could entreat some power to change this curious Jew." + }, + { + "start": 5719.16, + "end": 5721.16, + "text": " Just while you offer it behind her back," + }, + { + "start": 5721.16, + "end": 5723.16, + "text": " the wish would make else an unquiet house." + }, + { + "start": 5723.16, + "end": 5725.16, + "text": " These be the Christian husbands." + }, + { + "start": 5725.16, + "end": 5726.16, + "text": " I have a daughter," + }, + { + "start": 5726.16, + "end": 5730.16, + "text": " would any of the stock of brabis have been her husband rather than a Christian." + }, + { + "start": 5730.16, + "end": 5731.16, + "text": " We trifle time." + }, + { + "start": 5731.16, + "end": 5733.16, + "text": " I pray thee, pursue sentence." + }, + { + "start": 5734.16, + "end": 5738.16, + "text": " Pound of that same merchants flesh is thine, the court awards it and the law doth give it." + }, + { + "start": 5738.16, + "end": 5739.16, + "text": " Must write for judge." + }, + { + "start": 5739.16, + "end": 5743.16, + "text": " And you must cut this flesh from off his breast, the law allows it and the court awards it." + }, + { + "start": 5743.16, + "end": 5746.16, + "text": " But learn a judge, sentence, come, prepare." + }, + { + "start": 5746.16, + "end": 5747.16, + "text": " Shall you pray, sir?" + }, + { + "start": 5747.16, + "end": 5748.16, + "text": " Don't you still?" + }, + { + "start": 5748.16, + "end": 5750.16, + "text": " It's going to be a toilet, can I not write?" + }, + { + "start": 5750.16, + "end": 5752.16, + "text": " Tari, a little, there is something else." + }, + { + "start": 5753.16, + "end": 5755.16, + "text": " This bond, doth give thee here." + }, + { + "start": 5756.16, + "end": 5757.16, + "text": " No, jot of blood." + }, + { + "start": 5758.16, + "end": 5761.16, + "text": " The words expressly are a pound of flesh." + }, + { + "start": 5762.16, + "end": 5767.16, + "text": " Take them thy bond, take thou by pound of flesh, but in the cutting it." + }, + { + "start": 5768.16, + "end": 5771.16, + "text": " If thou dost shed one drop of Christine blood," + }, + { + "start": 5771.16, + "end": 5775.16, + "text": " by lands and goods are by the laws of Venice," + }, + { + "start": 5775.16, + "end": 5777.16, + "text": " confiscate unto the state of Venice." + }, + { + "start": 5778.16, + "end": 5780.16, + "text": " Oh, upright judge, marked you." + }, + { + "start": 5780.16, + "end": 5782.16, + "text": " Oh, learning judge." + }, + { + "start": 5782.16, + "end": 5783.16, + "text": " Is not the law." + }, + { + "start": 5783.16, + "end": 5784.16, + "text": " By self she'll see the act," + }, + { + "start": 5784.16, + "end": 5789.16, + "text": " for as thou urges justice be assured, thou shalt have justice more than thou desirest." + }, + { + "start": 5789.16, + "end": 5792.16, + "text": " I'll learn it, judge, marked you." + }, + { + "start": 5792.16, + "end": 5793.16, + "text": " I'll learn it, judge." + }, + { + "start": 5794.16, + "end": 5796.16, + "text": " I take this offer then." + }, + { + "start": 5796.16, + "end": 5800.16, + "text": " Pay the bond thrice and let the Christian go." + }, + { + "start": 5800.16, + "end": 5801.16, + "text": " Here is the money." + }, + { + "start": 5801.16, + "end": 5805.16, + "text": " Soft as you shall have all justice, soft no haste." + }, + { + "start": 5805.16, + "end": 5807.16, + "text": " He shall have nothing but the penalty." + }, + { + "start": 5807.16, + "end": 5810.16, + "text": " Oh, gee, an upright judge, I'll learn it, judge." + }, + { + "start": 5810.16, + "end": 5812.16, + "text": " Therefore prepare thee to cut off the flesh." + }, + { + "start": 5812.16, + "end": 5815.16, + "text": " Shed thou no blood, nor cut thou less no more," + }, + { + "start": 5815.16, + "end": 5817.16, + "text": " but just a pound of flesh." + }, + { + "start": 5817.16, + "end": 5820.16, + "text": " If thou text more, all less than a just pound." + }, + { + "start": 5820.16, + "end": 5824.16, + "text": " Be it but so much as make it light or heavy in the substance," + }, + { + "start": 5824.16, + "end": 5829.16, + "text": " or the division of the twentieth part of one poor scruple," + }, + { + "start": 5829.16, + "end": 5833.16, + "text": " may if the scale do turn but in the estimation of a hair." + }, + { + "start": 5833.16, + "end": 5836.16, + "text": " Thou diest and all thy goods are confiscate." + }, + { + "start": 5838.16, + "end": 5840.16, + "text": " Give me my principle and let me go." + }, + { + "start": 5840.16, + "end": 5842.16, + "text": " I have it ready for thee, here it is." + }, + { + "start": 5842.16, + "end": 5844.16, + "text": " He had refused it in the open court." + }, + { + "start": 5844.16, + "end": 5846.16, + "text": " He shall have merely justice and his bond." + }, + { + "start": 5847.16, + "end": 5850.16, + "text": " A Daniel? Still I say a second Daniel." + }, + { + "start": 5850.16, + "end": 5853.16, + "text": " I thank thee, Jude, for teaching me that word." + }, + { + "start": 5853.16, + "end": 5855.16, + "text": " Shall I not have barely my principle?" + }, + { + "start": 5855.16, + "end": 5858.16, + "text": " Thou shalt have nothing but the fourth itcher," + }, + { + "start": 5858.16, + "end": 5861.16, + "text": " to be so taken at thy peril, Jude." + }, + { + "start": 5861.16, + "end": 5864.16, + "text": " Well, then the devil will give him good at it." + }, + { + "start": 5864.16, + "end": 5866.16, + "text": " I'll stay no longer questioned." + }, + { + "start": 5866.16, + "end": 5870.16, + "text": " Taric, Jude, the law hath yet another hold on you." + }, + { + "start": 5870.16, + "end": 5873.16, + "text": " It is enacted in the laws of Venice." + }, + { + "start": 5873.16, + "end": 5877.16, + "text": " If it be proved against an alien that by direct or indirect attempts," + }, + { + "start": 5877.16, + "end": 5881.16, + "text": " he seek the life of any citizen." + }, + { + "start": 5881.16, + "end": 5883.16, + "text": " The party against the witch he doth contrive" + }, + { + "start": 5883.16, + "end": 5885.16, + "text": " shall seize one half of his goods." + }, + { + "start": 5885.16, + "end": 5889.16, + "text": " The other half comes to the privy coffer of the state," + }, + { + "start": 5889.16, + "end": 5893.16, + "text": " and the offender's life lies in the mercy of the Duke only," + }, + { + "start": 5893.16, + "end": 5895.16, + "text": " against all other voice." + }, + { + "start": 5895.16, + "end": 5898.16, + "text": " Down, therefore, on bed mercy of the Duke." + }, + { + "start": 5898.16, + "end": 5902.16, + "text": " I beg your pardon, thou most have lead to hang myself," + }, + { + "start": 5903.16, + "end": 5906.16, + "text": " and yet thy wealth being forfeit to the state," + }, + { + "start": 5906.16, + "end": 5908.16, + "text": " thou hast not left the valley of a corrupt." + }, + { + "start": 5908.16, + "end": 5911.16, + "text": " Therefore, thou must be hanged at the state's jaws." + }, + { + "start": 5911.16, + "end": 5915.16, + "text": " Thou shalt see the difference of our spirits." + }, + { + "start": 5915.16, + "end": 5919.16, + "text": " I pardon thee thy life before thou ask it." + }, + { + "start": 5919.16, + "end": 5923.16, + "text": " For half thy wealth, it is Antonio's." + }, + { + "start": 5923.16, + "end": 5926.16, + "text": " The other half comes to the general state." + }, + { + "start": 5926.16, + "end": 5931.16, + "text": " No, take my life and all pardon not that." + }, + { + "start": 5931.16, + "end": 5934.16, + "text": " You take my house when you do take the prop," + }, + { + "start": 5934.16, + "end": 5937.16, + "text": " that doth sustain my house." + }, + { + "start": 5937.16, + "end": 5942.16, + "text": " You take my life when you do take the means whereby I live." + }, + { + "start": 5943.16, + "end": 5945.16, + "text": " What mercy can you render him, Antonio?" + }, + { + "start": 5945.16, + "end": 5950.16, + "text": " A hangman's noose. Nothing else for God's sake." + }, + { + "start": 5950.16, + "end": 5954.16, + "text": " So please, my Lord, the Duke and all the court," + }, + { + "start": 5954.16, + "end": 5957.16, + "text": " quit the fine for one half of his goods." + }, + { + "start": 5957.16, + "end": 5959.16, + "text": " I am content." + }, + { + "start": 5960.16, + "end": 5965.16, + "text": " So he will let me have the other half in use to render it upon his death," + }, + { + "start": 5965.16, + "end": 5969.16, + "text": " unto the gentleman that lately stole his daughter." + }, + { + "start": 5969.16, + "end": 5971.16, + "text": " Two things provided more." + }, + { + "start": 5971.16, + "end": 5976.16, + "text": " For this favor, he presently become a Christian." + }, + { + "start": 5976.16, + "end": 5982.16, + "text": " The other, that he do record a gift here in the court of all he dies possessed," + }, + { + "start": 5982.16, + "end": 5986.16, + "text": " unto his son, Lorenzo, and his daughter." + }, + { + "start": 5986.16, + "end": 5992.16, + "text": " He shall do this, or else I do recant the pardon that I like pronounced here." + }, + { + "start": 5992.16, + "end": 5996.16, + "text": " Are thou contented, Jew? What does thou say?" + }, + { + "start": 6000.16, + "end": 6001.16, + "text": " I am content." + }, + { + "start": 6001.16, + "end": 6004.16, + "text": " Clarke, draw a deed of gift." + }, + { + "start": 6004.16, + "end": 6009.16, + "text": " I pray, give me a leaf to go for men's." + }, + { + "start": 6009.16, + "end": 6012.16, + "text": " I am not well." + }, + { + "start": 6012.16, + "end": 6015.16, + "text": " Send the deed after me, and I will sign it." + }, + { + "start": 6015.16, + "end": 6018.16, + "text": " Be God. But do it." + }, + { + "start": 6020.16, + "end": 6024.16, + "text": " In Christening, thou shall have two God-fathers." + }, + { + "start": 6024.16, + "end": 6026.16, + "text": " And I have been judged, thou should have had ten more." + }, + { + "start": 6026.16, + "end": 6029.16, + "text": " To bring me to the gallows, not the font." + }, + { + "start": 6031.16, + "end": 6035.16, + "text": " Sir, I entreat you home with me to dinner." + }, + { + "start": 6035.16, + "end": 6038.16, + "text": " I humbly do desire, your grace of pardon." + }, + { + "start": 6038.16, + "end": 6042.16, + "text": " I must away this night to ward Padua, and it is meat, I presently set forth." + }, + { + "start": 6042.16, + "end": 6045.16, + "text": " Oh, I am sorry the Jewel has served you not." + }, + { + "start": 6045.16, + "end": 6053.16, + "text": " Antonio, gratify this gentleman, for in my mind you are much bountain." + }, + { + "start": 6055.16, + "end": 6059.16, + "text": " Most worthy, gentlemen, I am my friend," + }, + { + "start": 6059.16, + "end": 6062.16, + "text": " half by your wisdom, been this day acquitted of grievous pantes." + }, + { + "start": 6062.16, + "end": 6065.16, + "text": " And Lou, whereof, three thousand dockets do you want to the Jew?" + }, + { + "start": 6065.16, + "end": 6067.16, + "text": " We freely cope your courteous pienes with all." + }, + { + "start": 6067.16, + "end": 6071.16, + "text": " And stand indebted over and above in love, and service to you, and..." + }, + { + "start": 6072.16, + "end": 6077.16, + "text": " He is well paid, that is well satisfied, and I delivering you and satisfied." + }, + { + "start": 6077.16, + "end": 6080.16, + "text": " And therein to account myself well paid." + }, + { + "start": 6080.16, + "end": 6083.16, + "text": " My mind was never yet more mercenary." + }, + { + "start": 6083.16, + "end": 6087.16, + "text": " I pray you, know me, when we meet again." + }, + { + "start": 6087.16, + "end": 6090.16, + "text": " I wish you well, and so I take my leave." + }, + { + "start": 6090.16, + "end": 6093.16, + "text": " Dear, sir, of course I must attempt you further." + }, + { + "start": 6093.16, + "end": 6096.16, + "text": " Tick some remembrance of us as a tribute, not as a fee." + }, + { + "start": 6096.16, + "end": 6100.16, + "text": " Grunt me two things, I pray you, not to deny me, undepardon me." + }, + { + "start": 6102.16, + "end": 6105.16, + "text": " You press me far, and therefore I will yield." + }, + { + "start": 6105.16, + "end": 6107.16, + "text": " Give me your gloves." + }, + { + "start": 6107.16, + "end": 6110.16, + "text": " I'll wear them for your sake." + }, + { + "start": 6110.16, + "end": 6114.16, + "text": " And for your love, I'll take this ring from you." + }, + { + "start": 6114.16, + "end": 6117.16, + "text": " Do not draw back your hand, I'll take them all." + }, + { + "start": 6117.16, + "end": 6120.16, + "text": " And you in love shall not deny me this." + }, + { + "start": 6121.16, + "end": 6123.16, + "text": " This ring?" + }, + { + "start": 6123.16, + "end": 6126.16, + "text": " Ah, good, sir, alas, it is a trifle." + }, + { + "start": 6126.16, + "end": 6129.16, + "text": " I will not shim myself to give you this." + }, + { + "start": 6130.16, + "end": 6133.16, + "text": " I will have nothing else but only this." + }, + { + "start": 6133.16, + "end": 6135.16, + "text": " And now me thinks I have a mind to it." + }, + { + "start": 6135.16, + "end": 6136.16, + "text": " Good, sir." + }, + { + "start": 6138.16, + "end": 6140.16, + "text": " This ring was given me by my wife." + }, + { + "start": 6140.16, + "end": 6144.16, + "text": " And when she put it on, she made me void that I should neither sound nor give nor lose it." + }, + { + "start": 6147.16, + "end": 6150.16, + "text": " That skew serves many men to save their gifts." + }, + { + "start": 6150.16, + "end": 6156.16, + "text": " And if your wife being not a mad woman, and know how well I have deserved the ring," + }, + { + "start": 6157.16, + "end": 6161.16, + "text": " she would not hold out enemy forever for giving it to me." + }, + { + "start": 6161.16, + "end": 6164.16, + "text": " Well, peace be with you." + }, + { + "start": 6164.16, + "end": 6166.16, + "text": " Good day, gentlemen." + }, + { + "start": 6166.16, + "end": 6168.16, + "text": " Hello, Pesanio." + }, + { + "start": 6168.16, + "end": 6171.16, + "text": " Let him have the ring." + }, + { + "start": 6171.16, + "end": 6176.16, + "text": " Let his deservings of my love with all be valued against your wife's commandment." + }, + { + "start": 6179.16, + "end": 6182.16, + "text": " Go, Roshano, run and overtake him, give him the ring," + }, + { + "start": 6182.16, + "end": 6185.16, + "text": " and bring him, if they can, onto Antonio's house." + }, + { + "start": 6185.16, + "end": 6187.16, + "text": " Make it still, of course." + }, + { + "start": 6187.16, + "end": 6188.16, + "text": " Come." + }, + { + "start": 6188.16, + "end": 6191.16, + "text": " You and I will thither presently, and in the morning, early," + }, + { + "start": 6191.16, + "end": 6194.16, + "text": " will we both fly toward Balmot." + }, + { + "start": 6194.16, + "end": 6196.16, + "text": " Come, Antonio." + }, + { + "start": 6201.16, + "end": 6204.16, + "text": " In quiet the juice house out, give him the deed and let him sign it." + }, + { + "start": 6204.16, + "end": 6208.16, + "text": " We'll wait a night and be a day before our husbands' home." + }, + { + "start": 6208.16, + "end": 6211.16, + "text": " This deed will be well-welcome to Lorenzo." + }, + { + "start": 6215.16, + "end": 6217.16, + "text": " What's this?" + }, + { + "start": 6220.16, + "end": 6225.16, + "text": " Fess, sir, you are well-airted, and my lord, Pesanio," + }, + { + "start": 6225.16, + "end": 6228.16, + "text": " upon more advice, has sent you here this ring," + }, + { + "start": 6228.16, + "end": 6230.16, + "text": " and often treat your company a dinner." + }, + { + "start": 6230.16, + "end": 6231.16, + "text": " That cannot be." + }, + { + "start": 6231.16, + "end": 6235.16, + "text": " This ring I do accept most, thankfully, and so I pray you tell him." + }, + { + "start": 6235.16, + "end": 6238.16, + "text": " Furthermore, I pray you show my youth old Shylox house." + }, + { + "start": 6238.16, + "end": 6240.16, + "text": " That will I do." + }, + { + "start": 6240.16, + "end": 6242.16, + "text": " Sir, I will speak with you." + }, + { + "start": 6243.16, + "end": 6245.16, + "text": " I'll see if I can get my husband's ring," + }, + { + "start": 6245.16, + "end": 6248.16, + "text": " which I did make him swear to keep forever, thou based on word." + }, + { + "start": 6248.16, + "end": 6251.16, + "text": " We shall have old swearing that they did give the rings away to men," + }, + { + "start": 6251.16, + "end": 6255.16, + "text": " but we'll outface them, and I'll swear them too." + }, + { + "start": 6257.16, + "end": 6258.16, + "text": " Away, make haste." + }, + { + "start": 6258.16, + "end": 6260.16, + "text": " Thou know where I will tarry." + }, + { + "start": 6260.16, + "end": 6261.16, + "text": " Ah, good sir." + }, + { + "start": 6261.16, + "end": 6263.16, + "text": " Will you show me to this house?" + }, + { + "start": 6273.16, + "end": 6279.16, + "text": " Ah, the moon shines bright." + }, + { + "start": 6279.16, + "end": 6284.16, + "text": " In such a night as this, when the sweet wind did gently kiss the trees," + }, + { + "start": 6284.16, + "end": 6286.16, + "text": " and they did make no noise." + }, + { + "start": 6286.16, + "end": 6291.16, + "text": " In such a night, Troilis me things mounted the Troion walls and side him." + }, + { + "start": 6291.16, + "end": 6295.16, + "text": " The moon shines bright." + }, + { + "start": 6295.16, + "end": 6301.16, + "text": " In such a night, Troilis me things mounted the Troion walls and side him." + }, + { + "start": 6301.16, + "end": 6306.16, + "text": " Inside his soul towards the Greciantennis, where crescidly that night." + }, + { + "start": 6306.16, + "end": 6310.16, + "text": " In such a night, did Fisbee fearfully overtrip the dew," + }, + { + "start": 6310.16, + "end": 6315.16, + "text": " and saw the lion's shadow air himself, and ran dismayed away." + }, + { + "start": 6315.16, + "end": 6319.16, + "text": " In such a night, stood Dido with a willow in her hand," + }, + { + "start": 6319.16, + "end": 6325.16, + "text": " upon the wild sea-bounds, and waft her love to come again to Carthage." + }, + { + "start": 6325.16, + "end": 6328.16, + "text": " In such a night, the day a gathered the enchanted herbs" + }, + { + "start": 6328.16, + "end": 6331.16, + "text": " that did renew old eason." + }, + { + "start": 6331.16, + "end": 6336.16, + "text": " In such a night, did Jessica steal from the wealthy dew," + }, + { + "start": 6336.16, + "end": 6340.16, + "text": " and with an unthrift love, did run from Venice as far as Belman?" + }, + { + "start": 6340.16, + "end": 6345.16, + "text": " In such a night, did young Lorenzo swear he loved her well," + }, + { + "start": 6345.16, + "end": 6351.16, + "text": " stealing her soul with many vows of faith and near a true one." + }, + { + "start": 6351.16, + "end": 6356.16, + "text": " Oh, in such a night, did pretty Jessica like a little Shrew?" + }, + { + "start": 6356.16, + "end": 6360.16, + "text": " What slander her love, and he forgave it her." + }, + { + "start": 6360.16, + "end": 6366.16, + "text": " In such a night, I would out night you did nobody come," + }, + { + "start": 6366.16, + "end": 6369.16, + "text": " but Hark, I hear the footing of a man." + }, + { + "start": 6369.16, + "end": 6372.16, + "text": " Who comes so fast in silence of the night?" + }, + { + "start": 6372.16, + "end": 6374.16, + "text": " A friend." + }, + { + "start": 6374.16, + "end": 6380.16, + "text": " A friend? What friend? Your name, I pray you, friend." + }, + { + "start": 6380.16, + "end": 6384.16, + "text": " Balfazar is my name, and I bring word my mistress will" + }, + { + "start": 6384.16, + "end": 6387.16, + "text": " before the break of day be here at Belmont." + }, + { + "start": 6387.16, + "end": 6392.16, + "text": " She darts stray abut by holy crosses where she kneels and prays" + }, + { + "start": 6392.16, + "end": 6394.16, + "text": " for happy wedlock hours." + }, + { + "start": 6394.16, + "end": 6397.16, + "text": " I pray you, is my master yet returned?" + }, + { + "start": 6397.16, + "end": 6400.16, + "text": " He is not nor have we not heard from him." + }, + { + "start": 6400.16, + "end": 6404.16, + "text": " Sweet solitin, and they're expecting their coming." + }, + { + "start": 6404.16, + "end": 6411.16, + "text": " And yet no matter, why should we go in?" + }, + { + "start": 6411.16, + "end": 6416.16, + "text": " My friend, Balfazar, signify I pray you within the house." + }, + { + "start": 6416.16, + "end": 6421.16, + "text": " Your mistress is at hand, and bring your music forth into the air." + }, + { + "start": 6421.16, + "end": 6423.16, + "text": " Very good, sir." + }, + { + "start": 6423.16, + "end": 6430.16, + "text": " How sweet the moon might sleep upon this bank." + }, + { + "start": 6430.16, + "end": 6435.16, + "text": " Here we will sit and let the sounds of music creep in our ears," + }, + { + "start": 6435.16, + "end": 6440.16, + "text": " soft stillness, and the night become the touches of sweet harmony." + }, + { + "start": 6441.16, + "end": 6443.16, + "text": " Sit, Jessica." + }, + { + "start": 6443.16, + "end": 6449.16, + "text": " Look how the flow of heaven is thick in the lake with patterns of bright gold." + }, + { + "start": 6449.16, + "end": 6454.16, + "text": " There's not the smallest orbush that holds, but in this motion like an angel sings." + }, + { + "start": 6454.16, + "end": 6460.16, + "text": " Still acquiring to the young I'd cherubans, such harmonies in immortal souls" + }, + { + "start": 6460.16, + "end": 6465.16, + "text": " but ask this muddy vesture of Decadeeth grossly closer to him." + }, + { + "start": 6465.16, + "end": 6467.16, + "text": " Cannot hear it." + }, + { + "start": 6468.16, + "end": 6470.16, + "text": " There we go." + }, + { + "start": 6470.16, + "end": 6472.16, + "text": " Thanks, Balfazar." + }, + { + "start": 6472.16, + "end": 6477.16, + "text": " Come home and wake Diana with him with sweetest touches." + }, + { + "start": 6477.16, + "end": 6482.16, + "text": " Piss your mistress ear and draw her home with music." + }, + { + "start": 6489.16, + "end": 6494.16, + "text": " I never marry when I hear sweet music." + }, + { + "start": 6495.16, + "end": 6504.16, + "text": " The reason is your spirits are attended for dubert note a world and want and heard" + }, + { + "start": 6504.16, + "end": 6509.16, + "text": " or race of youthful and unhandled cults, fetching mad bounds," + }, + { + "start": 6509.16, + "end": 6512.16, + "text": " bellowing and naying loud, which is the hot condition of their blood." + }, + { + "start": 6512.16, + "end": 6518.16, + "text": " If they but hear the chance a trumpet sound or any air of music touch there is," + }, + { + "start": 6518.16, + "end": 6521.16, + "text": " you shall perceive them make a mutual stand." + }, + { + "start": 6521.16, + "end": 6529.16, + "text": " Their savage eyes tend to a modest gaze by the sweet power of music." + }, + { + "start": 6529.16, + "end": 6534.16, + "text": " Therefore the poet did feign that all fierce drew trees, stones and floods" + }, + { + "start": 6534.16, + "end": 6542.16, + "text": " since not so stockish, hard and full of rage, but music for the time to change his nature." + }, + { + "start": 6544.16, + "end": 6550.16, + "text": " The man that hath no music in himself nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds" + }, + { + "start": 6550.16, + "end": 6555.16, + "text": " is fit for treason, stratagem and sport." + }, + { + "start": 6555.16, + "end": 6561.16, + "text": " The motions of his spirit are dull as night and his affections dull as air of us." + }, + { + "start": 6561.16, + "end": 6565.16, + "text": " Let no such man be trusted." + }, + { + "start": 6565.16, + "end": 6568.16, + "text": " Mark the music." + }, + { + "start": 6569.16, + "end": 6576.16, + "text": " The light we see is burning in my hall." + }, + { + "start": 6576.16, + "end": 6580.16, + "text": " How far that little candle thrice is beams." + }, + { + "start": 6580.16, + "end": 6584.16, + "text": " So shines a good deed in a naughty world." + }, + { + "start": 6584.16, + "end": 6587.16, + "text": " And moonshine we did not see the candle." + }, + { + "start": 6587.16, + "end": 6590.16, + "text": " So does the greater glory dim the less." + }, + { + "start": 6590.16, + "end": 6594.16, + "text": " A substitute shines brightly as a king under the king be by," + }, + { + "start": 6594.16, + "end": 6601.16, + "text": " and then his state empties itself as does an inland brook into the mane of waters." + }, + { + "start": 6606.16, + "end": 6608.16, + "text": " Music." + }, + { + "start": 6608.16, + "end": 6609.16, + "text": " Hark." + }, + { + "start": 6609.16, + "end": 6612.16, + "text": " Is your music madam of the house?" + }, + { + "start": 6612.16, + "end": 6615.16, + "text": " Nothing is good I see without respect." + }, + { + "start": 6615.16, + "end": 6618.16, + "text": " We think it sounds much sweeter than by day." + }, + { + "start": 6618.16, + "end": 6621.16, + "text": " Silence bestows that virtue on it, madam." + }, + { + "start": 6621.16, + "end": 6625.16, + "text": " The crow doth sing as sweetly as the lark when neither is attended." + }, + { + "start": 6625.16, + "end": 6628.16, + "text": " And I think the nightingale, if she should sing by day," + }, + { + "start": 6628.16, + "end": 6634.16, + "text": " when every goose is cackling, would be thought no better a musician than the ren." + }, + { + "start": 6634.16, + "end": 6641.16, + "text": " How many things by season, season doth to their right praise and true perfection?" + }, + { + "start": 6641.16, + "end": 6643.16, + "text": " Peace." + }, + { + "start": 6643.16, + "end": 6647.16, + "text": " Now the moon sleeps within dimming and would not be awake." + }, + { + "start": 6647.16, + "end": 6652.16, + "text": " That is the voice or else I am much deceived of pusher." + }, + { + "start": 6652.16, + "end": 6656.16, + "text": " He knows me as the blind man knows the cuckoo by the bad voice." + }, + { + "start": 6656.16, + "end": 6658.16, + "text": " Delayed you, welcome home." + }, + { + "start": 6658.16, + "end": 6661.16, + "text": " We've been praying for our husband's welfare," + }, + { + "start": 6661.16, + "end": 6664.16, + "text": " which speed we hope the better for our words." + }, + { + "start": 6664.16, + "end": 6665.16, + "text": " Are they returned?" + }, + { + "start": 6665.16, + "end": 6666.16, + "text": " Madam, they are not yet." + }, + { + "start": 6666.16, + "end": 6667.16, + "text": " Go in, Narissa." + }, + { + "start": 6667.16, + "end": 6671.16, + "text": " Give order to my servants that they take no note at all of our being absent hence." + }, + { + "start": 6671.16, + "end": 6674.16, + "text": " Nor you, Lorenzo, Jessica, nor you." + }, + { + "start": 6674.16, + "end": 6677.16, + "text": " Your husband is at hand, I hear strumpet." + }, + { + "start": 6677.16, + "end": 6681.16, + "text": " We are no deltails, madam, may you not." + }, + { + "start": 6681.16, + "end": 6686.16, + "text": " This night, many things, is but the daylight sick." + }, + { + "start": 6686.16, + "end": 6687.16, + "text": " It looks a little paler." + }, + { + "start": 6687.16, + "end": 6692.16, + "text": " It is a day such as the day is when the sun is hidden." + }, + { + "start": 6692.16, + "end": 6696.16, + "text": " You should hold there with it, to buddies, if you would walk in absence of the sun." + }, + { + "start": 6696.16, + "end": 6698.16, + "text": " Let me give light, but let me not be light." + }, + { + "start": 6698.16, + "end": 6703.16, + "text": " For a light wife doth make a heavy husband, and never be bisonno so for me." + }, + { + "start": 6703.16, + "end": 6706.16, + "text": " But God sought all, you are welcome home." + }, + { + "start": 6706.16, + "end": 6707.16, + "text": " My lord." + }, + { + "start": 6707.16, + "end": 6709.16, + "text": " I thank you, madam." + }, + { + "start": 6709.16, + "end": 6713.16, + "text": " Give welcome to my friend." + }, + { + "start": 6713.16, + "end": 6719.16, + "text": " This is the man, this is Tony El, to whom I am so infinitely bound." + }, + { + "start": 6719.16, + "end": 6725.16, + "text": " You should in its sense be much bound to him, for as I hear, he was much bound for you." + }, + { + "start": 6725.16, + "end": 6727.16, + "text": " No more than I am well acquitted of." + }, + { + "start": 6727.16, + "end": 6729.16, + "text": " So you are very welcome to our house." + }, + { + "start": 6729.16, + "end": 6733.16, + "text": " It must appear in other ways than words, therefore I scammed this breeding courtesy." + }, + { + "start": 6733.16, + "end": 6735.16, + "text": " I swear you do me wrong." + }, + { + "start": 6735.16, + "end": 6737.16, + "text": " In fact, I gave it to the judges Clark." + }, + { + "start": 6737.16, + "end": 6742.16, + "text": " What do you a girl that had it for my part, since you do take it love so much that heart?" + }, + { + "start": 6742.16, + "end": 6743.16, + "text": " A quarrel?" + }, + { + "start": 6743.16, + "end": 6744.16, + "text": " Who? Already?" + }, + { + "start": 6744.16, + "end": 6745.16, + "text": " What's the matter?" + }, + { + "start": 6745.16, + "end": 6747.16, + "text": " About a hoop of gold." + }, + { + "start": 6747.16, + "end": 6752.16, + "text": " A poultry ring that she did give me, whose posee was for all the world like a cutler's poetry on a knife." + }, + { + "start": 6752.16, + "end": 6754.16, + "text": " Love me and leave me not." + }, + { + "start": 6754.16, + "end": 6757.16, + "text": " What took you of the posee or the value?" + }, + { + "start": 6757.16, + "end": 6761.16, + "text": " You swore to me when I did give it you that you would wear it till your hour of death," + }, + { + "start": 6761.16, + "end": 6764.16, + "text": " and that it should lie with you in your grave." + }, + { + "start": 6764.16, + "end": 6769.16, + "text": " Though not for me, yet for your vehement oaths, you should have been respected and have kept it." + }, + { + "start": 6769.16, + "end": 6771.16, + "text": " Gave it a judges' Clark." + }, + { + "start": 6771.16, + "end": 6776.16, + "text": " Now by my hand, I gave it to you for kind of boy a little scrub boy." + }, + { + "start": 6776.16, + "end": 6781.16, + "text": " You know, higher than thyself, the judges' Clark, a prating boy that begged it as a fee." + }, + { + "start": 6781.16, + "end": 6783.16, + "text": " I could not for my heart to know him." + }, + { + "start": 6783.16, + "end": 6786.16, + "text": " You were to blame. I must be playing with you." + }, + { + "start": 6786.16, + "end": 6789.16, + "text": " Departs so slightly with your wife's first gift," + }, + { + "start": 6789.16, + "end": 6794.16, + "text": " the things stuck on with oeds upon your finger and so riveted with faith into your flesh." + }, + { + "start": 6794.16, + "end": 6798.16, + "text": " I gave my love, a ring, and made him swear, never to part with it." + }, + { + "start": 6798.16, + "end": 6801.16, + "text": " And here he stands, I debby sworn for him." + }, + { + "start": 6801.16, + "end": 6806.16, + "text": " He would not leave it, nor pluck it from his finger, for the wealth that the world masters." + }, + { + "start": 6806.16, + "end": 6811.16, + "text": " Why I were best to cut my left hand off and swear I lost the ring defending it." + }, + { + "start": 6811.16, + "end": 6816.16, + "text": " My Lord Bessani, I gave his ring away, hung to the judge, that begged it and indeed deserved it too." + }, + { + "start": 6816.16, + "end": 6821.16, + "text": " And then the boy, his Clark, that took some pains in writing, he begged mine." + }, + { + "start": 6821.16, + "end": 6824.16, + "text": " And neither man nor master would take up but the two rings." + }, + { + "start": 6824.16, + "end": 6827.16, + "text": " What ring gave you, my Lord?" + }, + { + "start": 6827.16, + "end": 6831.16, + "text": " Not that I hoped which you received of me." + }, + { + "start": 6832.16, + "end": 6836.16, + "text": " If I could add a lie onto a fault, I would deny it." + }, + { + "start": 6836.16, + "end": 6840.16, + "text": " But you see my finger, it's not the ring upon us." + }, + { + "start": 6840.16, + "end": 6845.16, + "text": " It is gone." + }, + { + "start": 6845.16, + "end": 6849.16, + "text": " Even so void is your false heart of truth." + }, + { + "start": 6849.16, + "end": 6854.16, + "text": " By heaven I will now come in your bed until I see the ring." + }, + { + "start": 6854.16, + "end": 6857.16, + "text": " Nor I in yours till I again see mine." + }, + { + "start": 6857.16, + "end": 6861.16, + "text": " Sweet Portia, if you did know to whom I gave the ring," + }, + { + "start": 6861.16, + "end": 6865.16, + "text": " if you did know for whom I gave the ring, and what can see for what I gave the ring," + }, + { + "start": 6865.16, + "end": 6870.16, + "text": " and how unwillingly I left the ring, when not would be accepted but the ring." + }, + { + "start": 6870.16, + "end": 6873.16, + "text": " You would have bit the strength of your displeasure." + }, + { + "start": 6873.16, + "end": 6878.16, + "text": " If you had known the virtue of the ring, or half her worthiness that gave the ring," + }, + { + "start": 6878.16, + "end": 6885.16, + "text": " or your own honour to contain the ring, you would not then have parted with the ring." + }, + { + "start": 6885.16, + "end": 6890.16, + "text": " What man is there so much unreasonable if you had pleased to have defended it," + }, + { + "start": 6890.16, + "end": 6895.16, + "text": " with any terms of zeal, wanted the modesty to urge the thing held as a ceremony?" + }, + { + "start": 6895.16, + "end": 6897.16, + "text": " Nor is it teaches me what to believe." + }, + { + "start": 6897.16, + "end": 6900.16, + "text": " I'll die for it, but some woman had the ring." + }, + { + "start": 6900.16, + "end": 6905.16, + "text": " No, by my honour, madam, by my soul, no woman had it but a civil doctor," + }, + { + "start": 6905.16, + "end": 6910.16, + "text": " which did refuse 3,000 dockets of me and begged the ring," + }, + { + "start": 6910.16, + "end": 6914.16, + "text": " the witch I did deny him and suffered him to go displeased away," + }, + { + "start": 6914.16, + "end": 6918.16, + "text": " even he that did uphold the very life of my dear friend." + }, + { + "start": 6919.16, + "end": 6921.16, + "text": " Which I'd say is real lady." + }, + { + "start": 6921.16, + "end": 6924.16, + "text": " I was enforced descended after him." + }, + { + "start": 6924.16, + "end": 6927.16, + "text": " I was beset with shame and courtesy." + }, + { + "start": 6927.16, + "end": 6932.16, + "text": " My honour would not let in gratitude so much besmirate pardon me, good lady." + }, + { + "start": 6932.16, + "end": 6935.16, + "text": " I am the unhappy subject of this quarrel." + }, + { + "start": 6935.16, + "end": 6937.16, + "text": " Sir, I agree with not you. You are welcome, notwithstanding." + }, + { + "start": 6937.16, + "end": 6941.16, + "text": " Forgiveness, forgive me this and forgiveness, and in the hearing of these, my many friends," + }, + { + "start": 6941.16, + "end": 6949.16, + "text": " I swear to thee, even by thine own fair eyes, wherein I see myself." + }, + { + "start": 6949.16, + "end": 6956.16, + "text": " Mark you with that, in both my eyes he doubly sees himself in each eye one," + }, + { + "start": 6956.16, + "end": 6960.16, + "text": " swear by your double self and there's an oath of credit." + }, + { + "start": 6960.16, + "end": 6970.16, + "text": " No, but hear me, pardon this fault, and by my soul I swear." + }, + { + "start": 6971.16, + "end": 6975.16, + "text": " I never more will break an oath with thee." + }, + { + "start": 6975.16, + "end": 6983.16, + "text": " I once did let my body for his wealth, which but for him that had your husband's ring had quite miscarried." + }, + { + "start": 6983.16, + "end": 6992.16, + "text": " I dare be bound again, my soul upon the forefied, that your lord will never more break faith advisedly." + }, + { + "start": 6992.16, + "end": 6995.16, + "text": " Then you shall be his surety." + }, + { + "start": 6996.16, + "end": 7001.16, + "text": " Give him this and bid him keep it better than the other." + }, + { + "start": 7001.16, + "end": 7009.16, + "text": " Here, O Bessaniu, swear to keep this ring." + }, + { + "start": 7011.16, + "end": 7016.16, + "text": " If I haven't, it is the same I give the doctor." + }, + { + "start": 7016.16, + "end": 7019.16, + "text": " I had it of him." + }, + { + "start": 7019.16, + "end": 7025.16, + "text": " Pardon me, Bessaniu, for by this ring the doctor lay with me." + }, + { + "start": 7025.16, + "end": 7034.16, + "text": " And pardon me, my general Grasiana, for that same scrubbed boy the doctor's clock in lieu of this last night did lie with me." + }, + { + "start": 7034.16, + "end": 7037.16, + "text": " What, are we cock-holes, heir we have deserved it?" + }, + { + "start": 7037.16, + "end": 7040.16, + "text": " Are you not so grossly?" + }, + { + "start": 7040.16, + "end": 7045.16, + "text": " You are all amazed. Here is a letter, read it at your leisure." + }, + { + "start": 7045.16, + "end": 7052.16, + "text": " It comes from Padua, from Balario. There, you shall find that Porsche was the doctor." + }, + { + "start": 7052.16, + "end": 7054.16, + "text": " Naurissa there, her clerk." + }, + { + "start": 7054.16, + "end": 7059.16, + "text": " Lorenzo, here shall witness, I set forth as soon as you and even but now returned. I have not yet entered my house." + }, + { + "start": 7059.16, + "end": 7065.16, + "text": " Antonio, you are welcome. And I have better news in store for you than you expect." + }, + { + "start": 7065.16, + "end": 7072.16, + "text": " Unseal this letter soon. There, you shall find three of your augusties are richly come to Harbour suddenly." + }, + { + "start": 7072.16, + "end": 7076.16, + "text": " You shall not know by what strange accident I chanced on this letter." + }, + { + "start": 7076.16, + "end": 7083.16, + "text": " I am done. Were you the doctor and I knew you not." + }, + { + "start": 7083.16, + "end": 7086.16, + "text": " Were you the clerk that is to make me cock-hole?" + }, + { + "start": 7086.16, + "end": 7091.16, + "text": " I, but the clerk that never means to do it unless he live until he be a man." + }, + { + "start": 7091.16, + "end": 7098.16, + "text": " Sweet doctor, you should be my betful. When I am absent, then lie with my wife." + }, + { + "start": 7098.16, + "end": 7108.16, + "text": " Sweet lady, you have given me life and living. For here I read for certain that my ships are safely come to road." + }, + { + "start": 7108.16, + "end": 7113.16, + "text": " How now, Lorenzo? My clerk. That's some good comforts too for you." + }, + { + "start": 7113.16, + "end": 7124.16, + "text": " I, and I'll give them him without a fee. There do I give to you, Injesica, from the rich to you, a special deed of gift after his death of all he dies possessed." + }, + { + "start": 7124.16, + "end": 7128.16, + "text": " Well, fair ladies, you dropped manner in the way of staffed people." + }, + { + "start": 7128.16, + "end": 7134.16, + "text": " It is almost morning and yet I am sure you are not satisfied of these events at full." + }, + { + "start": 7134.16, + "end": 7141.16, + "text": " Let us go in and charge us there upon intergotries and we will answer all things faithfully." + }, + { + "start": 7142.16, + "end": 7167.16, + "text": " And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and giver of life who preceded from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, who spaked by the prophets." + }, + { + "start": 7168.16, + "end": 7171.16, + "text": " And I believe one Catholic and Apostolic." + }, + { + "start": 7174.16, + "end": 7184.16, + "text": " I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins, and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come." + }, + { + "start": 7198.16, + "end": 7214.16, + "text": " In the much and a venice by William Shakespeare, Antonio was played by Ray Feren, Vasanio Colin Morgan, Portia, Haley Atwell and Shylock Andrew Scott." + }, + { + "start": 7214.16, + "end": 7225.16, + "text": " Salarino was Ryan Whittle, Salarnio, Nier Janayek, Gwashiano, Ryan Erley, Lorenzo Chris Luchum Hoi, and Jessica Lauren Cornelius." + }, + { + "start": 7225.16, + "end": 7241.16, + "text": " Narissa was Kerry Goodeson, Morocco Stefan Adegbola, Aragon Havie Marzan, the Duke Neomacol, Chubal Clive Hayward, Balthazar Rupert Holiday Evans and Lancelot Gobo Luke Bailey." + }, + { + "start": 7241.16, + "end": 7246.16, + "text": " The merchant of Venice was adapted and directed by Emma Harding." + }, + { + "start": 7256.16, + "end": 7267.16, + "text": " I can recite the play. I can't. The quality of mercy is not strained. It droppeth at the gentle rain beneath the pond of the room." + }, + { + "start": 7267.16, + "end": 7269.16, + "text": " I thought you could recite the whole thing." + }, + { + "start": 7269.16, + "end": 7274.16, + "text": " Well, bits! Bits! It's stuck with me! That's what happens to Shakespeare." + }, + { + "start": 7274.16, + "end": 7276.16, + "text": " So what did you think of that, Rian?" + }, + { + "start": 7276.16, + "end": 7281.16, + "text": " It's a lovely thing to do something and to do it in its entirety and to do it beautifully." + }, + { + "start": 7282.16, + "end": 7286.16, + "text": " There's a reason why Shakespeare stood with us. Is it actually quite good at this stuff?" + }, + { + "start": 7286.16, + "end": 7288.16, + "text": " I have a slight niggle." + }, + { + "start": 7288.16, + "end": 7297.16, + "text": " When I listen to Shakespeare, it kind of takes me, I don't know, maybe five, ten minutes to start to get into the language." + }, + { + "start": 7297.16, + "end": 7302.16, + "text": " It always just sounds like noise at first and then something clicks in a minute." + }, + { + "start": 7302.16, + "end": 7308.16, + "text": " And this, it was funny because every now and again you hear these sort of, they've added some modern bits." + }, + { + "start": 7308.16, + "end": 7312.16, + "text": " And that sort of took me out of the Shakespeare a bit and it took me a little while to get back into it." + }, + { + "start": 7312.16, + "end": 7319.16, + "text": " So it was a funny for me at least. I don't know. It was a funny kind of experience coming back and forth from those two different registers." + }, + { + "start": 7319.16, + "end": 7321.16, + "text": " But I do have to say it's worth it." + }, + { + "start": 7321.16, + "end": 7324.16, + "text": " I have a theory that it helps you to feel really clever." + }, + { + "start": 7324.16, + "end": 7327.16, + "text": " Listen to something like this and you feel clever." + }, + { + "start": 7327.16, + "end": 7333.16, + "text": " And I think Shakespeare, that has the best impact because with some podcasts I feel clever for maybe ten minutes." + }, + { + "start": 7333.16, + "end": 7335.16, + "text": " With this I feel clever for probably a week." + }, + { + "start": 7335.16, + "end": 7342.16, + "text": " Right. So it lasts. If you would like to hear what they do next, subscribe, go search for Shakespeare on three." + }, + { + "start": 7342.16, + "end": 7347.16, + "text": " And you'll hear the next product. I don't have the info on what the next plays are going to be." + }, + { + "start": 7347.16, + "end": 7350.16, + "text": " Who's going to be in them, but they're getting some pretty big names." + }, + { + "start": 7350.16, + "end": 7352.16, + "text": " And it's, yeah, it's going to be good." + }, + { + "start": 7352.16, + "end": 7354.16, + "text": " So that's all from us. See you next week." + }, + { + "start": 7365.16, + "end": 7368.16, + "text": " you" + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/Short Cuts.json b/Transcipts_base/Short Cuts.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..9c603d609dbb53dde8d39f2b41e5399df84027cb --- /dev/null +++ b/Transcipts_base/Short Cuts.json @@ -0,0 +1,1292 @@ +[ + { + "start": 0.0, + "end": 2.0, + "text": " This is the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 2.0, + "end": 23.0, + "text": " Hello and welcome to Podcasting House. If you've never listened to the podcast before, let me explain what we're doing." + }, + { + "start": 23.0, + "end": 30.0, + "text": " We listen with you to an episode from a different BBC podcast that we think is worth your time." + }, + { + "start": 30.0, + "end": 34.0, + "text": " If you like it and you want to hear more, you can search for it and subscribe." + }, + { + "start": 34.0, + "end": 39.0, + "text": " My name is Eli and as always I'm joined by Rean. What are we listening to today?" + }, + { + "start": 39.0, + "end": 48.0, + "text": " We're listening to shortcuts. Shortcuts is a collection of usually three mini documentaries presented by that story teller." + }, + { + "start": 48.0, + "end": 49.0, + "text": " Bar excellence." + }, + { + "start": 49.0, + "end": 50.0, + "text": " Is that an expression?" + }, + { + "start": 50.0, + "end": 52.0, + "text": " Yeah, sure. 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My favourite moment, oh there's quite a few lovely moments in it." + }, + { + "start": 101.0, + "end": 103.0, + "text": " There's one moment." + }, + { + "start": 103.0, + "end": 104.0, + "text": " Now don't spoil it for us for you." + }, + { + "start": 105.0, + "end": 109.0, + "text": " I mean you can say it, say it, I'm just a Donald spoil it, but say it, no say it." + }, + { + "start": 109.0, + "end": 112.0, + "text": " No, no, no, I think it's fair. I think it's fair. I'm just going to leave it." + }, + { + "start": 112.0, + "end": 116.0, + "text": " I'm telling you what, you guess what my favourite moment was and let me know next week." + }, + { + "start": 116.0, + "end": 121.0, + "text": " Hello, welcome to the podcast version of Shortcuts. 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And I'm glad I worked there because I never would have been" + }, + { + "start": 2663.2000000000003, + "end": 2667.92, + "text": " able to work to that standard if I didn't work at Apple back in the day. Right? So the important" + }, + { + "start": 2667.92, + "end": 2673.1200000000003, + "text": " thing is that companies are honest about the kinds of cultures that they have. Right? It's the" + }, + { + "start": 2673.1200000000003, + "end": 2678.48, + "text": " lying. It's the look how everything's combing and like, and look, no culture is perfect. Even good" + }, + { + "start": 2678.48, + "end": 2683.84, + "text": " ones have problems and even bad ones have advantages. Right? 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And I think one of the things that boils down for me is it" + }, + { + "start": 3558.88, + "end": 3564.6400000000003, + "text": " goes right back to what we're talking about, which is it's based on both parties and they both get a say." + }, + { + "start": 3565.2000000000003, + "end": 3569.76, + "text": " And so if you say I want to live this kind of lifestyle and you're upfront about it and somebody" + }, + { + "start": 3569.76, + "end": 3575.76, + "text": " says, I'm cool with that. Then great. But if you lie and say I want to have this kind of, I want to" + }, + { + "start": 3575.76, + "end": 3581.52, + "text": " be strictly monogamous, but you don't really, because you like the person a lot and you think that if" + }, + { + "start": 3581.52, + "end": 3584.56, + "text": " you tell them that you want a different kind of relationship, you're going to lose them. 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And I realized that one of" + }, + { + "start": 4120.96, + "end": 4130.16, + "text": " the things I had to do was I had to be a better listener. And so my girlfriend, when we first" + }, + { + "start": 4130.16, + "end": 4134.719999999999, + "text": " started dating, she's terrible listener. Terrible, right? I mean, we joke about it." + }, + { + "start": 4136.719999999999, + "end": 4140.08, + "text": " Where I would say, babe, I need to have an uncomfortable conversation with you. There's something" + }, + { + "start": 4140.08, + "end": 4143.2, + "text": " I'm struggling with, something you said or did that it's making me uncomfortable. I need to work" + }, + { + "start": 4143.2, + "end": 4148.24, + "text": " it through with you. And she would start telling me a problem she had with me. Right? And so" + }, + { + "start": 4148.8, + "end": 4151.76, + "text": " what I would do is just hold space for that in the conversation, would just change entirely." + }, + { + "start": 4153.76, + "end": 4158.72, + "text": " But I had to learn what I learned about listening to this holding space, to learn to hold space for" + }, + { + "start": 4158.72, + "end": 4168.96, + "text": " someone, you know, to learn to as if holding a baby, you know, like to let someone feel safe" + }, + { + "start": 4168.96, + "end": 4173.44, + "text": " telling what they need to say without you trying to fix something or disagree with something or" + }, + { + "start": 4173.44, + "end": 4180.8, + "text": " correct something. Right? Go on. Tell me more. What else? Was the most valuable thing I learned" + }, + { + "start": 4181.52, + "end": 4191.2, + "text": " in COVID? And the nice thing is is when you give that to someone, weirdly, they, by some weird" + }, + { + "start": 4191.2, + "end": 4197.04, + "text": " osmosis, they gain the capability to give it back to you. But because you've done it, if you do" + }, + { + "start": 4197.12, + "end": 4203.6, + "text": " it enough times, you can say, this is what came later, which is I hear what you're saying and I" + }, + { + "start": 4203.6, + "end": 4208.88, + "text": " want to talk about that. But for now, I want to finish the thing that I started talking about. Can" + }, + { + "start": 4208.88, + "end": 4213.28, + "text": " you, can we just start with that? And you can say it politely. And they recognize that you've" + }, + { + "start": 4213.28, + "end": 4217.2, + "text": " held space for them so many times that they'll offer you that service and they know how to do it" + }, + { + "start": 4217.2, + "end": 4220.8, + "text": " because they've seen it modeled. Really interesting thing about that. I was thinking about my own" + }, + { + "start": 4220.8, + "end": 4226.24, + "text": " relationship with my, with my partner is the reason why that's so true for me is because most of" + }, + { + "start": 4226.24, + "end": 4231.36, + "text": " the time when someone is talking and talking and repeating themselves is because they don't feel" + }, + { + "start": 4231.36, + "end": 4234.88, + "text": " like they've been heard. Correct. So in my relationship with my partner, the fact that we do" + }, + { + "start": 4234.88, + "end": 4240.16, + "text": " exactly what you've described where we literally go, give me a safe space. And then I talk, means she" + }, + { + "start": 4240.16, + "end": 4244.48, + "text": " only feels like she has to say it once because she feels like it was her the first time. In my previous" + }, + { + "start": 4244.48, + "end": 4249.28, + "text": " relationship, I'm in the bin. I'm going to be honest. I was in the wardrobe one day and I've" + }, + { + "start": 4249.28, + "end": 4254.0, + "text": " locked myself in there. My girlfriend is banging on the door, repeating herself. And I've," + }, + { + "start": 4254.16, + "end": 4259.92, + "text": " I'm not proud of this but it's the truth. I, I, long context, I said, I'm going for New Year's Eve," + }, + { + "start": 4259.92, + "end": 4263.36, + "text": " me, me and a client are going out to Singapore, it's their birthday. It's the biggest client in the" + }, + { + "start": 4263.36, + "end": 4266.88, + "text": " world. They've asked me to come. It's their birthday. She goes, I want to spend New Year's with the" + }, + { + "start": 4266.88, + "end": 4272.4, + "text": " Eve with you. And I go, yeah, but I've told them that I'm going to Singapore. She goes, I want to" + }, + { + "start": 4272.4, + "end": 4276.08, + "text": " spend New Year's Eve with you. 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And this is such a narrow example." + }, + { + "start": 5057.12, + "end": 5061.76, + "text": " So it's not necessarily truth, but a male managing director we had who was extremely" + }, + { + "start": 5062.5599999999995, + "end": 5066.5599999999995, + "text": " exaggerating and very, very, very ambitious about forecasts that we have ever realized." + }, + { + "start": 5066.5599999999995, + "end": 5070.72, + "text": " That makes sense. That's consistent. And I think there's lots of data on this." + }, + { + "start": 5073.04, + "end": 5077.5199999999995, + "text": " Men, when they apply for a job, and they say we need these 10 things. And if they have six out of" + }, + { + "start": 5077.52, + "end": 5080.96, + "text": " the 10, they apply for the job. And women won't apply for the job unless they have nine or 10" + }, + { + "start": 5080.96, + "end": 5087.68, + "text": " of the qualities. 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So yeah, I mean, some of it is a cultural as well." + }, + { + "start": 5121.04, + "end": 5126.08, + "text": " I have a female entrepreneur friend who has a theory. I have to stress this as her theory." + }, + { + "start": 5127.4400000000005, + "end": 5132.72, + "text": " It's deferring. Exactly. Exactly. She believes men make better entrepreneurs than women." + }, + { + "start": 5133.84, + "end": 5136.08, + "text": " She believes men make better entrepreneurs than women. Yes." + }, + { + "start": 5137.36, + "end": 5147.52, + "text": " The logic is that when we're young, traditional roles for the most part still exist." + }, + { + "start": 5147.52, + "end": 5155.52, + "text": " That if you want to go to the prom, generally, the boy asks the girl. 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And one dare remember, it was actually after you left" + }, + { + "start": 5323.120000000001, + "end": 5327.040000000001, + "text": " in when we're in the studio in LA, I thought to myself, if I was going to interview myself," + }, + { + "start": 5327.6, + "end": 5331.4400000000005, + "text": " it would probably be the most interesting interview in the world because I know all of the bullshit" + }, + { + "start": 5332.160000000001, + "end": 5336.64, + "text": " and I know all of the stuff that no one's ever asked me that I've maybe skirted away from or whatever." + }, + { + "start": 5337.52, + "end": 5342.0, + "text": " If you were sat in my chair and you were interviewing Simon today, what is, what are some of the" + }, + { + "start": 5342.0, + "end": 5347.84, + "text": " questions you would have asked you to get to get the most interesting stuff out of you?" + }, + { + "start": 5348.56, + "end": 5351.76, + "text": " Maybe just give me one question. I think you've done a pretty good job. I mean," + }, + { + "start": 5352.72, + "end": 5358.64, + "text": " I think the best interviews are conversations. I think the best interviews have no agenda," + }, + { + "start": 5358.64, + "end": 5365.76, + "text": " but the interviewer has genuine curiosity. I think the best interviews are open-ended questions" + }, + { + "start": 5366.4800000000005, + "end": 5372.96, + "text": " that are difficult and in this case of your interviews, you know, you are pretty blunt with a" + }, + { + "start": 5372.96, + "end": 5377.68, + "text": " question that doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room, you know, a lot of questions I can wiggle out of" + }, + { + "start": 5377.68, + "end": 5384.400000000001, + "text": " and yours less so. But they give an opportunity to me to think out loud. You know, I think a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 5384.400000000001, + "end": 5389.92, + "text": " the questions you asked today, I haven't thought about it or if I haven't sort of codified it." + }, + { + "start": 5389.92, + "end": 5395.12, + "text": " And what you heard were not answers, but you heard me thinking." + }, + { + "start": 5396.24, + "end": 5399.28, + "text": " And if you go back and listen to them, I probably, they're probably sort of like," + }, + { + "start": 5399.68, + "end": 5403.84, + "text": " sort of bounce around a little bit because you hear me trying to get to an answer. They're not" + }, + { + "start": 5403.84, + "end": 5409.52, + "text": " answers I'm trying to get to an answer. And those are the best because I walk away feeling" + }, + { + "start": 5410.24, + "end": 5416.16, + "text": " enlightened because I got to think where usually the answers, the questions are," + }, + { + "start": 5417.12, + "end": 5422.16, + "text": " I've heard them all before, they're very focused on my work when you wrote this, when you wrote that," + }, + { + "start": 5422.16, + "end": 5427.84, + "text": " you know, what were you thinking? And I don't learn anything. So when you ask me about my work," + }, + { + "start": 5427.84, + "end": 5431.44, + "text": " I know the answer is when you ask me not about my work, you ask me about life and you ask me" + }, + { + "start": 5431.44, + "end": 5437.599999999999, + "text": " about challenges that the world is facing, that's what I love. So, you know, I think you've done that." + }, + { + "start": 5437.599999999999, + "end": 5440.24, + "text": " And so the questions that I ask myself are the questions you ask me." + }, + { + "start": 5440.24, + "end": 5444.8, + "text": " Okay, I'm going to ask you the question. I'm not copying out. It's genuinely, you're very good at what" + }, + { + "start": 5444.8, + "end": 5449.04, + "text": " you do. I will ask you the question that I would ask myself. Okay, which is, what is the greatest," + }, + { + "start": 5449.04, + "end": 5452.88, + "text": " I was just thinking about it then, what is the greatest fear you have about how you're currently" + }, + { + "start": 5452.88, + "end": 5462.320000000001, + "text": " living your life? 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You know," + }, + { + "start": 5707.28, + "end": 5712.64, + "text": " someone with an old-fashioned perspective, you know, so the mistake people will make is to not" + }, + { + "start": 5712.64, + "end": 5716.88, + "text": " share them with anyone. And when I say something to your business, it doesn't mean it's not out of" + }, + { + "start": 5716.88, + "end": 5722.16, + "text": " anyone's business. I absolutely do share those things because it would be unhealthy not to. But I want" + }, + { + "start": 5722.16, + "end": 5728.16, + "text": " to help, I want to share those things in a really safe, really safe magical space with somebody who" + }, + { + "start": 5728.16, + "end": 5731.68, + "text": " loves me no matter what, and cares me no matter what, and will stand by me no matter what." + }, + { + "start": 5734.96, + "end": 5740.08, + "text": " Interesting. No one has ever responded like that before, which I think is, which is amazing in" + }, + { + "start": 5740.08, + "end": 5745.2, + "text": " and of itself, because it's really, it's really changed my perspective on a few things. As you know," + }, + { + "start": 5745.84, + "end": 5749.84, + "text": " we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest asks a question for the next" + }, + { + "start": 5749.84, + "end": 5754.8, + "text": " guest. Yes. They have no idea who they're asking it for. Correct. I wonder, I'd love to know how" + }, + { + "start": 5754.8, + "end": 5759.52, + "text": " somebody answered my question last time. We could look at that. I'll tell you. Yeah, often." + }, + { + "start": 5762.320000000001, + "end": 5765.92, + "text": " It's a slightly interesting one because it feels like it's something we've discussed in many respects." + }, + { + "start": 5767.68, + "end": 5775.28, + "text": " What's one conversation? What's one conversation you haven't had, which you know you need to," + }, + { + "start": 5775.28, + "end": 5780.96, + "text": " and why haven't you had it? Are you willing to have it? Yeah, won't share the answer, and yes, I will." + }, + { + "start": 5781.12, + "end": 5786.56, + "text": " Because you'd rather have it with the person. I'd rather have it with the person." + }, + { + "start": 5787.92, + "end": 5793.92, + "text": " To me to broadcast it now, before I've talked to the person, seems unfair and disingenuous." + }, + { + "start": 5794.96, + "end": 5806.16, + "text": " And I think it's kind of like when there's a respect, when you hear about, there was a tragedy" + }, + { + "start": 5806.88, + "end": 5811.28, + "text": " and people were killed and they don't release the names before they've told the families." + }, + { + "start": 5812.08, + "end": 5815.92, + "text": " They tell the families first and they release the names just out of respect." + }, + { + "start": 5816.5599999999995, + "end": 5820.0, + "text": " And I think the same goes for these kinds of conversations, which is I think we owe it to the people" + }, + { + "start": 5820.0, + "end": 5825.04, + "text": " in our lives we love and care about to let them be the first to hear the thing that has to be said" + }, + { + "start": 5825.92, + "end": 5832.639999999999, + "text": " rather than the second or the last. I think it's just, that's how I would want to be treated to." + }, + { + "start": 5832.72, + "end": 5836.56, + "text": " I'd want to be the first to hear it if somebody has something to say to me. It's just respect." + }, + { + "start": 5837.6, + "end": 5840.08, + "text": " So yes, there are things and they will be said." + }, + { + "start": 5841.4400000000005, + "end": 5845.360000000001, + "text": " I can feel you great. And enjoy it. It really ties in nicely with your earlier point about" + }, + { + "start": 5845.360000000001, + "end": 5848.88, + "text": " having a conversation as soon as possible and on as conversation as soon as possible. But also," + }, + { + "start": 5848.88, + "end": 5851.92, + "text": " I guess the adjacent point to that is having it with them first." + }, + { + "start": 5851.92, + "end": 5854.96, + "text": " Yeah. Making sure they don't find out by the great viner of podcasts." + }, + { + "start": 5854.96, + "end": 5860.320000000001, + "text": " Can I, can I, yes, 100% and I've heard stories of like people hearing about things on television," + }, + { + "start": 5860.32, + "end": 5864.48, + "text": " you know, people losing their jobs they found out through somebody else, things like that." + }, + { + "start": 5866.16, + "end": 5869.44, + "text": " Can I just share one funny story about being honest before we close?" + }, + { + "start": 5871.599999999999, + "end": 5875.599999999999, + "text": " Honesty always has to be honest, right? Honesty is really easy. You just tell the truth." + }, + { + "start": 5876.32, + "end": 5882.4, + "text": " But honesty doesn't have to happen in the moment. And this is a lesson I've learned, right?" + }, + { + "start": 5882.4, + "end": 5889.36, + "text": " So I went to see a friend of mine's play and it was easily the worst thing I've ever seen in my" + }, + { + "start": 5889.36, + "end": 5897.28, + "text": " entire life. I mean, if she wasn't in it, I would have walked out. It was awful. And at the end" + }, + { + "start": 5897.28, + "end": 5901.599999999999, + "text": " of the performance, I hung around with the, you know, close friends and family in the, in the foyer," + }, + { + "start": 5901.599999999999, + "end": 5906.32, + "text": " and she eventually came out still in costume, still in makeup. And she knows I'm an honest broker." + }, + { + "start": 5907.2, + "end": 5913.2, + "text": " So after the thanks for coming, the first question was, what did you think? Right? Now, I'm" + }, + { + "start": 5913.2, + "end": 5918.719999999999, + "text": " an honest person, but she's all jacked up on adrenaline. She's all jacked up on emotion. Now is not" + }, + { + "start": 5918.72, + "end": 5923.4400000000005, + "text": " the time, but the problem is I can't lie. You know, we do it all, we lie all the time to protect" + }, + { + "start": 5923.4400000000005, + "end": 5926.72, + "text": " other people's feelings. You know, you get given a gift. It's the ugliest sweater you've ever seen" + }, + { + "start": 5926.72, + "end": 5929.76, + "text": " in your life. And they go, what do you think? You go, my God, I love it. Thank you. You don't love it." + }, + { + "start": 5930.400000000001, + "end": 5936.8, + "text": " Right? So don't say you love it to protect them, right? But you don't have to be honest in the moment." + }, + { + "start": 5936.8, + "end": 5940.88, + "text": " So what I said was, oh, my God, I'm so proud of you. It was so amazing to be here and watch you" + }, + { + "start": 5940.88, + "end": 5944.400000000001, + "text": " do your thing. I've never sat in the audience and seen you do your thing before. And it was so much" + }, + { + "start": 5944.4, + "end": 5952.24, + "text": " joy to see one stage. All of that was true. And that was it. Done. The next day when all the adrenaline" + }, + { + "start": 5952.24, + "end": 5955.2, + "text": " had come down and there was no more emotion, I called her up and say, can I tell you what I" + }, + { + "start": 5955.2, + "end": 5960.08, + "text": " thought of the play? She goes, yeah, and then I told her point by point why it sucked. But we had a" + }, + { + "start": 5960.08, + "end": 5966.96, + "text": " rational conversation the next day. And I think we make this mistake all the time in our relationships," + }, + { + "start": 5966.96, + "end": 5971.36, + "text": " which is we think we have to be honest in the moment, but we don't read the room and understand" + }, + { + "start": 5971.36, + "end": 5975.2, + "text": " that there's too much emotion involved to have a rational conversation. You know, somebody's" + }, + { + "start": 5975.2, + "end": 5979.599999999999, + "text": " mad at us and we're good, this is not the time for rational feedback. You meet emotion with" + }, + { + "start": 5979.599999999999, + "end": 5984.719999999999, + "text": " emotion, you meet rational with rational. You can't mix the two. And sometimes we're rational," + }, + { + "start": 5984.719999999999, + "end": 5989.599999999999, + "text": " but they're emotional, which means we have to stand down. Right? So what I've learned about honesty" + }, + { + "start": 5989.599999999999, + "end": 5994.16, + "text": " is we have to be honest, but we can actually delay. You have to meet rational with rational and" + }, + { + "start": 5994.16, + "end": 6000.48, + "text": " emotional with emotional. Let me give you some honesty then. I went, I went on your video subscription" + }, + { + "start": 6000.48, + "end": 6005.2, + "text": " library. Absolutely love it. I'm a member now. You'll see my name in the back end. Looked at the" + }, + { + "start": 6005.2, + "end": 6009.5199999999995, + "text": " live, the live course is coming out, watch loads of the videos. Amazing. 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We've talked about going fast. We're always open to it." + }, + { + "start": 1642.12, + "end": 1650.12, + "text": " You know, if someone caught in a message and says, hey, we're going to go ahead and you know, not too crazy about how this is or what about this?" + }, + { + "start": 1650.12, + "end": 1655.12, + "text": " That ball means, you know, we were always open. This is I'd say we do a lot of learning here on this channel." + }, + { + "start": 1655.12, + "end": 1662.12, + "text": " We drive a little bit of subject matter expertise. But one thing that I know is that you don't know it all. We're always open up learning from everybody." + }, + { + "start": 1662.12, + "end": 1668.12, + "text": " We glad you found our show every day tech on MPB think radio. This is Abraham Nanny still here." + }, + { + "start": 1668.12, + "end": 1675.12, + "text": " It was severe. 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For another tip, like I said before, entertainment and gaming is okay at times." + }, + { + "start": 2641.12, + "end": 2649.12, + "text": " But you might feel more comfortable if your student has in-game text or voice chat disabled so that they're not conversing with strangers." + }, + { + "start": 2649.12, + "end": 2653.12, + "text": " If for no other reason, then just to keep them from getting their feelings hurt." + }, + { + "start": 2653.12, + "end": 2658.12, + "text": " Because if I am playing an online competitive game, the first thing I do is turn off chat." + }, + { + "start": 2658.12, + "end": 2663.12, + "text": " Because I just do not mess with people talking trash on me." + }, + { + "start": 2663.12, + "end": 2666.12, + "text": " I know I'm bad at games, but I don't want people to tell me that all the time." + }, + { + "start": 2666.12, + "end": 2668.12, + "text": " So, that's the first thing." + }, + { + "start": 2668.12, + "end": 2671.12, + "text": " Right. Right. Right. I don't want to do, I don't want to be reminded about you." + }, + { + "start": 2671.12, + "end": 2678.12, + "text": " Yeah. That's, I think, the problem my husband has playing with his friends is because they're all telling each other how bad they are at the time." + }, + { + "start": 2678.12, + "end": 2680.12, + "text": " Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely." + }, + { + "start": 2680.12, + "end": 2685.12, + "text": " Well, that's, I feel like that's a bit different. Like when you're with your guys and you're, it's not, it's not." + }, + { + "start": 2685.12, + "end": 2688.12, + "text": " It's not. It's really hurts. It hurts their feelings, I think." + }, + { + "start": 2688.12, + "end": 2690.12, + "text": " Everybody gets their feelings hurt." + }, + { + "start": 2690.12, + "end": 2691.12, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2691.12, + "end": 2697.12, + "text": " It's like trash talking during a card game. You know, everybody's going to get their feelings hurt." + }, + { + "start": 2697.12, + "end": 2698.12, + "text": " Oh, yeah. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2698.12, + "end": 2703.12, + "text": " Is the engine man, you and my wife are the exact opposite because you moved from the trash talking." + }, + { + "start": 2703.12, + "end": 2710.12, + "text": " And me and my guys play were all on the lines. He's like, ooh, that's such a, that's such a, yeah, tell them I feel." + }, + { + "start": 2710.12, + "end": 2716.12, + "text": " I'm okay with it a little bit like that, but when everybody's feeling start getting on the line, I can hear it." + }, + { + "start": 2716.12, + "end": 2718.12, + "text": " I can hear the tension rise." + }, + { + "start": 2718.12, + "end": 2721.12, + "text": " Oh, yeah. That's funny. That's funny." + }, + { + "start": 2721.12, + "end": 2732.12, + "text": " All right. 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And I think that stems from my childhood," + }, + { + "start": 1198.24, + "end": 1202.8, + "text": " my dad's experiences and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Well, so I've got a confession as well," + }, + { + "start": 1202.8, + "end": 1208.08, + "text": " to me. Go on. So I went to rugby school as well. Okay. And I played, yeah, I played for my A team." + }, + { + "start": 1208.08, + "end": 1213.04, + "text": " And I was I was pretty, I was pretty good. Okay. What exactly did you play? Blindside Flanker." + }, + { + "start": 1213.04, + "end": 1218.32, + "text": " Okay. So I was I was really into rugby because I went to rugby school and I love football," + }, + { + "start": 1218.32, + "end": 1221.52, + "text": " but my school didn't play football. And so I was like, no, I've got to be on the school's" + }, + { + "start": 1221.52, + "end": 1225.52, + "text": " main team. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. So it worked really hard to get on the team. 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I love his style. There's a video of him working with the, I guess" + }, + { + "start": 1712.4, + "end": 1717.76, + "text": " he's just like a swinging bag and he is so effortless because Canelo's got a great head movement" + }, + { + "start": 1717.76, + "end": 1724.3200000000002, + "text": " but he looks like he's thinking about it. Whereas Nassim is just living the dream just he's so fluid" + }, + { + "start": 1724.3200000000002, + "end": 1728.72, + "text": " and I love the way he used to move. Yeah, yeah. And I love how we would enter the ring." + }, + { + "start": 1729.68, + "end": 1733.76, + "text": " Me, I would over rotate and slam on my face or something. Yeah, he was brilliant." + }, + { + "start": 1733.76, + "end": 1737.92, + "text": " He was like wrestling meets boxing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He must have been a nightmare to fight." + }, + { + "start": 1737.92, + "end": 1742.32, + "text": " Yeah, he must have been like he's beating me and he's embarrassing me. 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That's amazing, man. I love hearing that. And I love hearing that" + }, + { + "start": 2043.28, + "end": 2047.04, + "text": " has been great for you, right? I think that's the point. Not everything has to be like, look what I" + }, + { + "start": 2047.04, + "end": 2050.56, + "text": " did. You can do it too. It's kind of like, no, this is just what's been great for me. Do you think" + }, + { + "start": 2050.56, + "end": 2056.0, + "text": " it was partly that attitude for you at least in the beginning where it's like, well, I can drink," + }, + { + "start": 2056.0, + "end": 2058.96, + "text": " I drink a lot, it comes from my mum jeans and it doesn't affect me and then all of a sudden you" + }, + { + "start": 2058.96, + "end": 2063.7599999999998, + "text": " realize, well, wait a minute, it's more than that because I think there is that. Like I was like" + }, + { + "start": 2063.76, + "end": 2067.92, + "text": " that as a young man as well. Like for me, it was it was easy to drink. 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That guy and then all of a sudden I decided I" + }, + { + "start": 2322.96, + "end": 2326.48, + "text": " wasn't going to drink anymore. I was like, crap, I'm going to fit in. And then I remember I went" + }, + { + "start": 2326.48, + "end": 2330.8, + "text": " into the corporate world for a bit and I didn't drink. And I was like, God, am I going to miss out on" + }, + { + "start": 2330.8, + "end": 2336.32, + "text": " opportunities and networking. All the guys afterwards are going to get drinks. And I'm like, I'll come" + }, + { + "start": 2336.32, + "end": 2342.1600000000003, + "text": " but I'll have a water or a laver soda, whatever it is. And what was really interesting for me is not" + }, + { + "start": 2342.16, + "end": 2350.08, + "text": " relying on drinking made me rely on qualities and skills I had. Sure. That were actually better." + }, + { + "start": 2350.08, + "end": 2355.12, + "text": " Yeah. 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I hope that, you know, I can meet other" + }, + { + "start": 2427.84, + "end": 2431.44, + "text": " people and chat to them about it because it's really nice. It's lovely to be like, let's go get a" + }, + { + "start": 2431.44, + "end": 2438.5600000000004, + "text": " line of silence together. Yeah, let's get a juice. Yeah, no, it is true. It's true. And it's" + }, + { + "start": 2438.5600000000004, + "end": 2443.44, + "text": " really interesting because they, I can't remember. I'm trying to remember. There was this blog that came" + }, + { + "start": 2443.44, + "end": 2449.1200000000003, + "text": " out years ago. I can't remember it now. And there was this girl on Instagram who was getting a lot" + }, + { + "start": 2449.12, + "end": 2456.3199999999997, + "text": " of likes and a lot of comments and a lot of attention. And one day she just disappeared. Like," + }, + { + "start": 2456.3199999999997, + "end": 2460.08, + "text": " she stopped posting. 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Yeah, it's like swag. It doesn't go. Yeah. He still has it." + }, + { + "start": 2882.88, + "end": 2887.6000000000004, + "text": " And yeah, definitely, definitely. I got a glimpse into it. Obviously he's been doing it for," + }, + { + "start": 2887.6000000000004, + "end": 2893.28, + "text": " you know, nearly 30 years and yeah, I only did it for three, but you still get to a glimpse of it" + }, + { + "start": 2893.28, + "end": 2896.88, + "text": " and get an experience of it. So you know that it exists. Right. Right. And I think that's half the" + }, + { + "start": 2896.88, + "end": 2900.56, + "text": " battle too, like even with your sobriety, it's like, you just need to know it exists." + }, + { + "start": 2900.56, + "end": 2903.12, + "text": " Totally. And then you're like, wow, there's this other side." + }, + { + "start": 2903.12, + "end": 2906.6400000000003, + "text": " 100%. 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Like this new our planet show has just come out." + }, + { + "start": 3005.12, + "end": 3009.44, + "text": " One sitting. I've done the whole thing. So I would love to do something like that. So the next time" + }, + { + "start": 3009.44, + "end": 3015.04, + "text": " you go in, yeah, I'll figure it out. No, where's the place I love nature too? I just took my," + }, + { + "start": 3015.04, + "end": 3019.2799999999997, + "text": " me and my wife just went to Bali. Oh, I love Bali. Yeah, and it was unbelievable. We went white" + }, + { + "start": 3019.2799999999997, + "end": 3024.08, + "text": " water rafting and it almost felt like Jurassic Park. I was just waiting for a dinosaur head to" + }, + { + "start": 3024.08, + "end": 3029.12, + "text": " pop out. And it was just beautiful. It was so lush. It was so natural. 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I'm on another, like I could have gone into outer space and landed on another planet." + }, + { + "start": 3060.0800000000004, + "end": 3065.6000000000004, + "text": " There's a reason why every single space film Iceland is the first on the list for locations." + }, + { + "start": 3065.6000000000004, + "end": 3069.44, + "text": " Oh, is that the, is that the, I don't know that. I think Interstellar probably shot in Iceland." + }, + { + "start": 3069.44, + "end": 3074.48, + "text": " I went to the glacier this night. So I'm sure all of those films, you know, because you could do," + }, + { + "start": 3074.48, + "end": 3080.96, + "text": " you could do Mars, you could do Venus all in, you know, in Iceland. I would love to go. I don't know," + }, + { + "start": 3080.96, + "end": 3086.0, + "text": " we were thinking about doing some climbing and I'm not sure about how I feel about" + }, + { + "start": 3086.96, + "end": 3093.28, + "text": " glaciers and walking across them and just falling and never being found. Yeah, we walked across" + }, + { + "start": 3093.28, + "end": 3098.08, + "text": " them and obviously there were teams there. Sure. And then they had an expert and they went down" + }, + { + "start": 3098.08, + "end": 3102.48, + "text": " into the glacier like they went into one. And it was, and it was really scary because while we were" + }, + { + "start": 3102.48, + "end": 3105.52, + "text": " walking on the glacier and we've got, I forgot about those little boots are called the ones with" + }, + { + "start": 3105.52, + "end": 3109.52, + "text": " the kind of like, the little prongs. Yeah, yeah, but I forgot what they called it by anyway. We had" + }, + { + "start": 3109.52, + "end": 3114.96, + "text": " those on and, uh, crap on, crampons, crampons, crampons, crampons. Okay, yeah, thank you, Jack." + }, + { + "start": 3114.96, + "end": 3119.52, + "text": " And so we were in these crampons and literally it was like three steps further and you, you would" + }, + { + "start": 3119.52, + "end": 3123.44, + "text": " have fallen and you don't see it. And you would never be found. And you never, you never," + }, + { + "start": 3123.44, + "end": 3127.68, + "text": " never be found. You've never known. And it would be like that movie. What's it? 126 hours. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3127.68, + "end": 3131.36, + "text": " The guy had to soar for his own arm. 126 hours, mate, in 10 minutes. The ice, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3132.32, + "end": 3137.2, + "text": " Yeah, no, I, that's a bit too far for me. Well, if you went with a group of, you know, experts" + }, + { + "start": 3137.2, + "end": 3141.2, + "text": " and all the rest of it, yeah, but you've seen the documentary. Sometimes the experts go out and" + }, + { + "start": 3141.2, + "end": 3145.68, + "text": " it's one, it's the one-way story. They don't ever come back, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you've" + }, + { + "start": 3145.68, + "end": 3149.3599999999997, + "text": " got, you got to be careful. I'll show you some videos later though, because it was pretty," + }, + { + "start": 3149.3599999999997, + "end": 3153.52, + "text": " I'd love to. Yeah, it was pretty spectacular. It was, it was really amazing. No, I love, I love" + }, + { + "start": 3153.52, + "end": 3157.52, + "text": " that with your journey with Subrite. And again, the other thing we were talking about this earlier," + }, + { + "start": 3157.52, + "end": 3165.7599999999998, + "text": " going back to it was you decided to take a break from acting. Yeah. Because you were doing this" + }, + { + "start": 3166.32, + "end": 3170.32, + "text": " it was really tough and challenging. And you're like, you need some time. And again, you were saying" + }, + { + "start": 3170.32, + "end": 3175.36, + "text": " that that was missed can strew down just before we dive into why you needed to take a break and" + }, + { + "start": 3175.36, + "end": 3179.5200000000004, + "text": " what was challenging about it. I just wanted to just, if you wanted to give context to that and you" + }, + { + "start": 3179.5200000000004, + "end": 3185.0400000000004, + "text": " don't have to, but if you want to choose to clarify what you meant and what was going on there." + }, + { + "start": 3185.0400000000004, + "end": 3190.5600000000004, + "text": " It's only a break from acting because I'm an actor. Yeah. It's not like the acting itself. 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And then I found out as the 89th show and I was thinking, gosh, it is so hard. It's just so" + }, + { + "start": 3458.5600000000004, + "end": 3462.7200000000003, + "text": " hard and all their families are with them and traveling with them and all the rest of it. And so" + }, + { + "start": 3462.7999999999997, + "end": 3468.3999999999996, + "text": " I want to touch on that with you as well that walk us through because I've talked about this" + }, + { + "start": 3468.3999999999996, + "end": 3472.9599999999996, + "text": " with actors offline and I don't think I've fully done it online. And so if you're willing to go" + }, + { + "start": 3472.9599999999996, + "end": 3478.56, + "text": " that, I'd really appreciate it. 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If you send me human feces in my male," + }, + { + "start": 3507.52, + "end": 3512.16, + "text": " there'd be trouble. I wouldn't be putting up with that. You and Jared Leto in a boxing match." + }, + { + "start": 3512.16, + "end": 3518.4, + "text": " Yeah, there'd be a boxing movie then. But that idea of, I think as viewers, we don't," + }, + { + "start": 3518.4, + "end": 3523.04, + "text": " it's what I'm saying is like, when I went on tour, I was like, I get it. I get it now. As viewers," + }, + { + "start": 3523.04, + "end": 3528.7200000000003, + "text": " we don't get it because we don't really hear about the deep process that actors go through of" + }, + { + "start": 3528.7200000000003, + "end": 3534.1600000000003, + "text": " getting into a role, playing someone with multiple personalities. Like, you know, I don't know," + }, + { + "start": 3534.1600000000003, + "end": 3538.48, + "text": " is that, is that tough or is it actually, is that not, am I getting it wrong? 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Obviously, I come home and read the script and do all of my prep work, but I'm not." + }, + { + "start": 3665.2, + "end": 3668.7999999999997, + "text": " I'm leaving the character at work because it's too, it's too much, especially when you're playing" + }, + { + "start": 3668.7999999999997, + "end": 3673.12, + "text": " a character like Danny from the crowded room, like you can't bring that into your personal life." + }, + { + "start": 3673.7599999999998, + "end": 3679.36, + "text": " It's tough. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that, but I'm actually glad I asked it to you the way because what" + }, + { + "start": 3679.36, + "end": 3685.2, + "text": " I'm actually hearing is you did it early on and you saw it wasn't healthy. Sure. And so you actually" + }, + { + "start": 3685.2, + "end": 3690.24, + "text": " found another way. Yeah. 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Why don't we pack our bags and move" + }, + { + "start": 3868.7999999999997, + "end": 3873.2799999999997, + "text": " across? And so we went back to New York two months later. We moved over to LA. So it wasn't even," + }, + { + "start": 3874.0800000000004, + "end": 3878.32, + "text": " and now we've been there for five years. And the truth is that I was really intentional" + }, + { + "start": 3879.0400000000004, + "end": 3883.28, + "text": " when I moved somewhere. So while I'm building my purpose and my work and my career, which I" + }, + { + "start": 3883.28, + "end": 3888.32, + "text": " absolutely love what I get to do every day. And I could never have dreamed of doing what I do to" + }, + { + "start": 3888.32, + "end": 3893.1200000000003, + "text": " them. Super grateful. But at the same time, I was really intentional about building community and" + }, + { + "start": 3893.1200000000003, + "end": 3898.1600000000003, + "text": " family. 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I'm going to make lots of effort with you. And so" + }, + { + "start": 4000.56, + "end": 4005.68, + "text": " it kind of makes it very easy because my work is me. Do you find because of what you do and your skill" + }, + { + "start": 4005.68, + "end": 4011.8399999999997, + "text": " set and your experiences and your life as a monk that people unload on you a lot? Yes." + }, + { + "start": 4012.56, + "end": 4016.24, + "text": " Like you might meet a new person and they're sort of saying, well, I'm feeling this way. And I" + }, + { + "start": 4016.24, + "end": 4020.8799999999997, + "text": " would love to try and get to a place of enlightenment. Like that must happen to you a lot. Yes. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 4020.8799999999997, + "end": 4024.56, + "text": " A lot. You can have the train station. Right. You can have it on a plane. It can happen anywhere" + }, + { + "start": 4024.56, + "end": 4030.08, + "text": " in the world. And do you welcome those conversations? Do you like having those sorts of conversations?" + }, + { + "start": 4030.08, + "end": 4035.04, + "text": " So I think it depends where we are. Sure. And it depends who it is. And I always say to people as a" + }, + { + "start": 4035.04, + "end": 4043.12, + "text": " disclaimer that I don't want to give you the belief that I can solve your life in 30 seconds." + }, + { + "start": 4043.12, + "end": 4047.68, + "text": " Yeah. Right. All that I could ever solve your life for you. Just to be really clear." + }, + { + "start": 4047.68, + "end": 4051.2799999999997, + "text": " Yeah. And I always say that to people because people are like, Jay, tell me what I need to do. And" + }, + { + "start": 4051.2799999999997, + "end": 4055.52, + "text": " I'll be like, look, I just wanted to be fully aware that I'm happy to share some insights with you." + }, + { + "start": 4056.16, + "end": 4063.8399999999997, + "text": " But I don't have the power or gift or magic or ability to transform your life. 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When you're immature and you're in amateur in your work, you almost feel like you have to" + }, + { + "start": 4141.76, + "end": 4146.0, + "text": " have all the answers. And I'm like, you know what, I don't. And it's fine. And actually, people really" + }, + { + "start": 4146.0, + "end": 4152.16, + "text": " appreciate it. We just chat to them. And you know, and so yeah. And again, you know, I'm always happy" + }, + { + "start": 4152.16, + "end": 4155.84, + "text": " to listen to someone when I can. Obviously, they're sometimes when I'm like rushing late for a" + }, + { + "start": 4155.84, + "end": 4160.96, + "text": " blame or yeah, I'm trying to get into a car or a way. And I can't, I can't do it. Sure. But I" + }, + { + "start": 4160.96, + "end": 4164.96, + "text": " always stop and say hello, give someone a hug and yeah, so I don't have the answers to question." + }, + { + "start": 4164.96, + "end": 4169.28, + "text": " No, absolutely. Yeah. I guess what's interesting, what you're saying about making decisions," + }, + { + "start": 4169.28, + "end": 4174.639999999999, + "text": " something that I am constantly battling with myself is the inner battle between my gut and my brain." + }, + { + "start": 4175.28, + "end": 4181.12, + "text": " And that sounds really weird. No, it's real. I go with my gut a lot. I'm very, very, I think a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 4181.12, + "end": 4185.84, + "text": " the decisions I make in life are very sort of instinctual. I don't like to be bombarded with" + }, + { + "start": 4186.5599999999995, + "end": 4190.5599999999995, + "text": " evidence and facts and all that sort of stuff. I just like to feel a certain way about how" + }, + { + "start": 4191.36, + "end": 4196.48, + "text": " I would like something to sort of transpire. It can be taking a film, accepting a script," + }, + { + "start": 4196.48, + "end": 4199.68, + "text": " doing a business deal, buying a house, like it's all sorts of different things." + }, + { + "start": 4200.4, + "end": 4207.28, + "text": " Through your monthly life, did you feel like you would rely on your kind of inner instincts" + }, + { + "start": 4207.28, + "end": 4212.0, + "text": " rather than like getting the evidence of this is going to make you this much money or if you do" + }, + { + "start": 4212.0, + "end": 4216.639999999999, + "text": " that, these are the risks. How do you, where do you stand with that sort of thing? Yeah," + }, + { + "start": 4216.639999999999, + "end": 4221.36, + "text": " most poorly worded questions. No, you know why I mean. No, no, no, mate, I think both, I think this" + }, + { + "start": 4221.36, + "end": 4226.5599999999995, + "text": " is with such a conversation that is what a question sounds like in a conversation. And I think I've" + }, + { + "start": 4226.5599999999995, + "end": 4231.04, + "text": " asked you fairly poorly worded questions today as well, but I think that's what real. Come" + }, + { + "start": 4231.04, + "end": 4236.24, + "text": " in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. Then like, mate, I've got a question one. Right. But no, I think I" + }, + { + "start": 4236.24, + "end": 4240.48, + "text": " get what you're saying. And if I go on the wrong track, let me know, but living as a monk, you're" + }, + { + "start": 4240.48, + "end": 4246.88, + "text": " trained to understand that everything exists in a certain mode. And so I'll explain what that means." + }, + { + "start": 4246.88, + "end": 4252.8, + "text": " And so in the monk philosophy, there are three modes. And the modes are the mode of ignorance," + }, + { + "start": 4252.8, + "end": 4257.84, + "text": " the mode of passion and the mode of goodness. 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And then you're like, oh, mum," + }, + { + "start": 4523.280000000001, + "end": 4527.04, + "text": " like, you know, but the good thing about mum's is they wouldn't judge you for it. Yeah. They're" + }, + { + "start": 4527.28, + "end": 4531.2, + "text": " like, look, I told you, but yeah, to make you understand. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But" + }, + { + "start": 4532.16, + "end": 4535.6, + "text": " it's interesting that you've been able to hold on to that. And I love that. Do you feel like" + }, + { + "start": 4536.16, + "end": 4540.48, + "text": " you were asking me about moving to LA? And I think what have you felt? And there's a part of you" + }, + { + "start": 4540.48, + "end": 4545.2, + "text": " that's obviously wanting to be back in Kingston, be back to law. Have you felt that there's been" + }, + { + "start": 4545.2, + "end": 4548.88, + "text": " parts of yourself that have been challenged? I don't feel sitting with you today that," + }, + { + "start": 4549.84, + "end": 4553.84, + "text": " you know, I don't know you before. I don't know. You after I've only met you today. So I can't" + }, + { + "start": 4553.84, + "end": 4558.64, + "text": " judge who you are or what you enjoy. All I can say is that when I'm sitting with you today," + }, + { + "start": 4558.64, + "end": 4562.400000000001, + "text": " I feel like I'm sitting with an authentic individual and your energy comes across very easily." + }, + { + "start": 4562.400000000001, + "end": 4567.68, + "text": " Thank you. Do you feel like you've had to hold on to that at times with opportunities," + }, + { + "start": 4567.68, + "end": 4572.32, + "text": " challenges, the industry or is that all stuff that we kind of make up in our heads? And it's" + }, + { + "start": 4572.32, + "end": 4576.88, + "text": " actually just be yourself and you're fine. I really don't know the answer to that question. 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But that said, I am always looking for ways" + }, + { + "start": 4612.24, + "end": 4617.28, + "text": " to kind of remove myself from it to kind of just live as normal a life as possible." + }, + { + "start": 4617.92, + "end": 4624.4, + "text": " Today doing this is a very rare thing for me to do. Like in London to come in and speak to someone" + }, + { + "start": 4624.4, + "end": 4630.0, + "text": " about my life is something I would not typically do, but because I'm a fan of yours and I was keen to" + }, + { + "start": 4630.0, + "end": 4635.76, + "text": " kind of hear what you had to say and chat to you today. I felt like this would be a safe space for" + }, + { + "start": 4635.76, + "end": 4644.08, + "text": " me to do that. But yeah, I definitely think it has been an ongoing thought which is don't lose" + }, + { + "start": 4644.08, + "end": 4649.04, + "text": " yourself. I've seen so many people come before me and lose themselves and I've had friends that" + }, + { + "start": 4649.04, + "end": 4653.12, + "text": " I've grown up with that aren't friends of mine anymore because they've lost themselves to this" + }, + { + "start": 4653.12, + "end": 4659.4400000000005, + "text": " business. And I just am really, really keen to focus on what makes me happy, which is my family," + }, + { + "start": 4659.44, + "end": 4665.839999999999, + "text": " it's my friends, it's my carpentry, my golf, the charity that my mum runs, like that is the" + }, + { + "start": 4665.839999999999, + "end": 4670.08, + "text": " stuff that makes me really happy and that's the stuff that I should protect. My relationship is" + }, + { + "start": 4670.08, + "end": 4676.08, + "text": " the thing that I keep most sacred. I don't talk about it. I try my best to keep it as private as" + }, + { + "start": 4676.08, + "end": 4681.04, + "text": " possible. We both feel very strongly that that is the healthiest way for us to move on as a couple." + }, + { + "start": 4682.5599999999995, + "end": 4688.08, + "text": " So I do try to keep as removed from it as possible. Like you'll never see me in an award show," + }, + { + "start": 4688.08, + "end": 4693.44, + "text": " but I don't have to be a, I'm never going to a red carpet event that I'm not in the film of," + }, + { + "start": 4693.44, + "end": 4699.12, + "text": " you know, I don't want the attention when I don't need it. I love the spotlight, I love the pressure" + }, + { + "start": 4699.12, + "end": 4702.96, + "text": " that comes with it. Just watch that tennis documentary breaking point. I haven't seen it yet." + }, + { + "start": 4702.96, + "end": 4707.5199999999995, + "text": " You got to see it. It's amazing. I never realized how brutal tennis was. I've always been a huge tennis" + }, + { + "start": 4707.5199999999995, + "end": 4712.8, + "text": " lover. I am now absolutely in awe of what those athletes go through. But there's a quote from" + }, + { + "start": 4712.8, + "end": 4719.68, + "text": " Billie Jean King that's on the stand at her stadium in New York that says pressure is a privilege" + }, + { + "start": 4720.4800000000005, + "end": 4726.72, + "text": " and that is so true. Like, oh my god, feeling pressure on a daily basis in the capacity that we feel" + }, + { + "start": 4726.72, + "end": 4731.52, + "text": " is such a privilege. I love feeling pressure. I feel like I thrive under pressure. The best golf I've" + }, + { + "start": 4731.52, + "end": 4736.4800000000005, + "text": " ever played in my life is when there are cameras around and people are watching. I just think that" + }, + { + "start": 4736.4800000000005, + "end": 4741.92, + "text": " that is a real amazing thing to be able to experience. So I enjoy it while I can and then when it" + }, + { + "start": 4741.92, + "end": 4746.72, + "text": " becomes a bit much, I kind of become a bit of a recluse and I disappear. I come back to Kingston. I" + }, + { + "start": 4746.72, + "end": 4751.68, + "text": " play golf. I play tennis. I hang out with my friends and my family. Do the pub quiz and all that sort" + }, + { + "start": 4751.68, + "end": 4758.56, + "text": " of stuff. So yeah, so it is something I actively try to do as I get older. It only gets easier." + }, + { + "start": 4758.56, + "end": 4765.84, + "text": " Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And I can relate to that where in my small way or in my world where" + }, + { + "start": 4765.84, + "end": 4769.52, + "text": " a lot of my friends think like I'm in a lale, like always at events, always at pies. I'm not, I'm" + }, + { + "start": 4769.92, + "end": 4775.360000000001, + "text": " in bed by 930 p.m. And I only live there because it works for me in the world that I do and what I do." + }, + { + "start": 4775.360000000001, + "end": 4780.400000000001, + "text": " Sure. And I enjoy living in a lale, but it's, I don't live there for Hollywood. And I think that's" + }, + { + "start": 4780.400000000001, + "end": 4784.080000000001, + "text": " often the perception as well. I was like, oh, you're all Hollywood now. And I'm like, well, no, not" + }, + { + "start": 4784.080000000001, + "end": 4789.360000000001, + "text": " really. Like I don't really, I don't really go to all the events and gatherings and stuff. And" + }, + { + "start": 4789.360000000001, + "end": 4794.080000000001, + "text": " that's I need to be there or I'm connected to a project. So I relate to that. What you mentioned" + }, + { + "start": 4794.080000000001, + "end": 4798.4800000000005, + "text": " a few things there, but if I had to ask you as Tom, when do you feel most yourself? Like when do" + }, + { + "start": 4798.48, + "end": 4803.839999999999, + "text": " you feel most connected or and what are you trying to reconnect to if you're like, well, I know what" + }, + { + "start": 4803.839999999999, + "end": 4808.719999999999, + "text": " it is, but I'm still figuring it out again. I think when I feel most myself is to do my relationships," + }, + { + "start": 4808.719999999999, + "end": 4812.879999999999, + "text": " I'm going to leave that and not talk about that. Absolutely. But I think the other thing, and this" + }, + { + "start": 4812.879999999999, + "end": 4819.04, + "text": " is such a stupid thing, but it's when I'm playing good golf, like there's something about how golf" + }, + { + "start": 4819.04, + "end": 4822.5599999999995, + "text": " is the most humbling sport in the world. It doesn't matter who you are. Doesn't matter how much" + }, + { + "start": 4822.56, + "end": 4828.160000000001, + "text": " money you've got, how successful you are. Golf will batter you no matter who you are. And I love" + }, + { + "start": 4828.160000000001, + "end": 4833.280000000001, + "text": " that's what I love about it. You know, it's such a leveling sport. I love going to a golf course" + }, + { + "start": 4833.280000000001, + "end": 4837.92, + "text": " and meeting new people that I've never played with before, playing around a golf. I struggle when" + }, + { + "start": 4837.92, + "end": 4842.320000000001, + "text": " I don't play badly. Like I've got a bit of a temper and like you're supposed to have 14 clubs in" + }, + { + "start": 4842.320000000001, + "end": 4850.160000000001, + "text": " your bag. I currently have nine and you can probably guess why. But I just love being outside. I've" + }, + { + "start": 4850.16, + "end": 4855.12, + "text": " always been an outdoorsy person. I love being on the golf course. I love my mates. They all love" + }, + { + "start": 4855.12, + "end": 4860.16, + "text": " playing golf. There's just something about the challenge of shooting lower than your lowest school" + }, + { + "start": 4860.16, + "end": 4866.24, + "text": " that really kind of takes my mind off of the work. The interesting thing about golf is that" + }, + { + "start": 4866.88, + "end": 4870.48, + "text": " you could be having a terrible day. You could be really upset about something. And if you play really" + }, + { + "start": 4870.48, + "end": 4876.16, + "text": " well, you completely forget about it. If you play really badly, you then are playing badly because" + }, + { + "start": 4876.16, + "end": 4882.72, + "text": " of what's happening outside of golf. It's like a really weird kind of catch 22, I guess." + }, + { + "start": 4883.68, + "end": 4887.12, + "text": " But I love it. I think when I'm playing good golf is when I feel most like myself." + }, + { + "start": 4887.12, + "end": 4890.32, + "text": " Yeah. Wow. That's it. That's a unique answer. But I get it." + }, + { + "start": 4891.44, + "end": 4896.72, + "text": " Yeah. I've only ever played golf like twice in my life. Right. And I totally get the point of" + }, + { + "start": 4896.72, + "end": 4902.48, + "text": " how humbling it is is horrendous. No matter how quickly you pick up other things in life," + }, + { + "start": 4902.48, + "end": 4905.44, + "text": " golf is not one of those things that you pick up that easily." + }, + { + "start": 4905.44, + "end": 4909.759999999999, + "text": " Oh, mate, you can sign the biggest deal of your life and go out to play golf to celebrate and" + }, + { + "start": 4909.759999999999, + "end": 4914.24, + "text": " it will ruin your day. Like absolutely ruined. Don't go out to play golf to celebrate. No," + }, + { + "start": 4914.24, + "end": 4920.4, + "text": " never go out to celebrate. No, crazy. Do you still play any sport? I love playing football when I'm" + }, + { + "start": 4920.4, + "end": 4924.0, + "text": " back here. Okay. That's one of the things. My mates know that when I'm back in London," + }, + { + "start": 4924.0, + "end": 4927.5199999999995, + "text": " we're going to play a game for football. Where do you play? Well, we'll just we we'll just play" + }, + { + "start": 4927.5199999999995, + "end": 4932.16, + "text": " on like a seven-side pitch or a five-side pitch like close to Northwest London, which is where most" + }, + { + "start": 4932.16, + "end": 4937.12, + "text": " my mates are. So like stand more, eduare, whatford. That's like where all my mates are. And so we'll" + }, + { + "start": 4937.12, + "end": 4941.5199999999995, + "text": " just go rent a pitch, kick a boil about. I'm not any good anymore. Sure. But I still got the full" + }, + { + "start": 4941.5199999999995, + "end": 4946.08, + "text": " kit and the socks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. I always look dressed in fresh, bro. I've actually" + }, + { + "start": 4946.08, + "end": 4951.04, + "text": " got namears kit like from here. Oh, wow. So you best believe I'll show up to five aside in his" + }, + { + "start": 4951.04, + "end": 4956.48, + "text": " full kit. I love it. I love it. Is this on by him too? No, that's not so. Yeah, that's just his kit." + }, + { + "start": 4956.48, + "end": 4961.76, + "text": " We went on a lads holiday to Portugal recently to play golf and at the result we were staying at" + }, + { + "start": 4961.76, + "end": 4966.400000000001, + "text": " the the people were so nice. They said, let's have an England versus Portugal football match." + }, + { + "start": 4966.400000000001, + "end": 4970.88, + "text": " There was like, I think there's eight of us and there was a bunch of brits that were working at" + }, + { + "start": 4970.88, + "end": 4974.88, + "text": " the resort. So they kind of joined our team and we literally did England versus Portugal." + }, + { + "start": 4974.88, + "end": 4981.04, + "text": " It's a full-sized pitch. We did 60 minutes, 30 minutes each way. I'm fit. I train every day. I" + }, + { + "start": 4981.04, + "end": 4987.12, + "text": " actually love my fitness. I really, really like I'm into it. By the end, I could not make five" + }, + { + "start": 4987.12, + "end": 4992.48, + "text": " paces without my legs cramping up. They are so fit. These football players, it's unbelievable." + }, + { + "start": 4993.12, + "end": 4998.08, + "text": " We won and it's so funny how the first 10 minutes of the game was really friendly, like soft" + }, + { + "start": 4998.08, + "end": 5004.0, + "text": " fouls, sorry mate, like your free kick. By the end, it was savage. It was really intense." + }, + { + "start": 5004.0, + "end": 5008.48, + "text": " Well, at least you won there. We won. I got an assist. It's actually a glorious assist as well," + }, + { + "start": 5008.48, + "end": 5014.8, + "text": " actually. I just pinged the ball over the top. My brother made a run and it bounced and he managed" + }, + { + "start": 5014.8, + "end": 5019.360000000001, + "text": " to get his foot to it and he chipped the keeper and scored. But there's no footage. There's no footage." + }, + { + "start": 5019.360000000001, + "end": 5024.4800000000005, + "text": " No proof. Yeah, no proof. Yeah, no proof. I sometimes think when the whole no proof thing," + }, + { + "start": 5024.4800000000005, + "end": 5027.52, + "text": " like we had the craziest experience of my life the other day, I'll tell you about it." + }, + { + "start": 5028.4800000000005, + "end": 5034.24, + "text": " Because our lives are so crazy, there's no, why would I lie? But the other day, we went swimming" + }, + { + "start": 5034.24, + "end": 5040.0, + "text": " with killer whales in Mexico. I said the other day it was last year. It was one of the most humbling" + }, + { + "start": 5040.0, + "end": 5044.4800000000005, + "text": " experiences of my life. There's no proof of it. There's no evidence because it was so off the cuff," + }, + { + "start": 5044.48, + "end": 5048.16, + "text": " we weren't planning on doing it. So most people I tell her like you definitely didn't do that." + }, + { + "start": 5048.719999999999, + "end": 5055.599999999999, + "text": " But we were in Mexico and we were on a boat and we just so happened to see this pot of Orca." + }, + { + "start": 5056.639999999999, + "end": 5060.959999999999, + "text": " Jack, my security guard thought it would be a good idea to jump in. He jumped straight in," + }, + { + "start": 5060.959999999999, + "end": 5065.28, + "text": " flippers on, goggles on. And we were driving to keep up with the whales because they were kind of" + }, + { + "start": 5065.28, + "end": 5071.919999999999, + "text": " following our boat. So by the time Jack had jumped in, he was like this. He was like 100 meters away" + }, + { + "start": 5072.0, + "end": 5076.96, + "text": " and you could see him and the whales were like swimming around him. So I'm just trying to freak out" + }, + { + "start": 5076.96, + "end": 5080.32, + "text": " because he's a good friend of mine. And he's a security guard. Yeah, and he was a security guard." + }, + { + "start": 5080.32, + "end": 5085.6, + "text": " Jack, we got to get back to our hotel, bro. So I said to the guy like excuse me sir, can you turn" + }, + { + "start": 5085.6, + "end": 5090.64, + "text": " around and go and get my friend because we now can't see him anymore like he's gone. We found him," + }, + { + "start": 5090.64, + "end": 5095.36, + "text": " we got him back in the boat and he sort of said like lads, you have to get in. It's unlike anything" + }, + { + "start": 5095.36, + "end": 5100.0, + "text": " you've ever seen before. My brother Harry's like googling whether or not it's safe to swim with them." + }, + { + "start": 5100.0, + "end": 5104.56, + "text": " And it's sort of the general consensus online is don't go swimming with killer whales." + }, + { + "start": 5104.56, + "end": 5109.28, + "text": " You can. There's never been a recorded tack in the wild, but they are wild animals." + }, + { + "start": 5109.28, + "end": 5113.52, + "text": " There's no one to report. There's biggest of us. And also Jack's giving it like don't worry time" + }, + { + "start": 5113.52, + "end": 5117.52, + "text": " I'll be there. I'll look after him. I'm like Jack, what are you going to do, bro? Like what's this whale" + }, + { + "start": 5117.52, + "end": 5124.4, + "text": " the size to eat me? So anyway, we put the flippers on, put the goggles on. We find the whales." + }, + { + "start": 5124.48, + "end": 5129.759999999999, + "text": " They're sort of interacting with the back of the boat. They're clearly curious. And I just" + }, + { + "start": 5129.759999999999, + "end": 5134.799999999999, + "text": " thought like I guess it goes back to what you're saying, the mode of ignorance. I just was like," + }, + { + "start": 5134.799999999999, + "end": 5140.48, + "text": " I'm going to try it. See what happens. I jumped in. My brother jumped in. Jack jumped in. We kind of" + }, + { + "start": 5140.48, + "end": 5146.48, + "text": " came together with 30 miles out of the coast. So it's literally like dark blue water, nothing" + }, + { + "start": 5146.48, + "end": 5153.759999999999, + "text": " below us. And to my relief, the whales had gone. We couldn't see them. So I'm sort of thinking," + }, + { + "start": 5154.0, + "end": 5157.76, + "text": " well, that's actually a bit of a touch. At least I can say I jumped in and they have gone." + }, + { + "start": 5158.56, + "end": 5163.360000000001, + "text": " But then Jack said, look down and we look down and it came from beneath us." + }, + { + "start": 5164.24, + "end": 5168.4800000000005, + "text": " And what has been such an interesting experience for me was as soon as I saw the whale," + }, + { + "start": 5169.12, + "end": 5176.320000000001, + "text": " I wasn't scared anymore because I could just tell that it wasn't going to eat me. I don't know" + }, + { + "start": 5176.320000000001, + "end": 5180.400000000001, + "text": " how to explain it, but you could just see from its body language. I remember it so vividly," + }, + { + "start": 5180.4, + "end": 5186.0, + "text": " it swam up to us. It was maybe 10 meters below us. And it was kind of motionlessly sort of just" + }, + { + "start": 5186.0, + "end": 5190.48, + "text": " looking at us. And then it kind of rolled on its back. It did this weird thing where it kind of" + }, + { + "start": 5190.48, + "end": 5196.0, + "text": " put its head like this. And you could see it's eye like we were having this crazy like moment." + }, + { + "start": 5196.639999999999, + "end": 5201.839999999999, + "text": " And then it just swam off and it was gone. And then for three hours afterwards, I couldn't speak." + }, + { + "start": 5201.839999999999, + "end": 5208.96, + "text": " I had the biggest adrenaline dump. I just basically was asleep. But it was such an amazing experience" + }, + { + "start": 5208.96, + "end": 5215.44, + "text": " to sort of meet the apex predator of the world. And it kind of looked at you and just swim away." + }, + { + "start": 5216.0, + "end": 5221.52, + "text": " Most people don't believe me because there's no evidence. But it was, I think about it now." + }, + { + "start": 5221.52, + "end": 5227.2, + "text": " And then it's so funny as well. I see these, I like our planet. There's more footage of" + }, + { + "start": 5227.2, + "end": 5230.96, + "text": " Orcas hunting and another way in which they hunt. There is no way I would do that again." + }, + { + "start": 5230.96, + "end": 5235.76, + "text": " No way I'd get in there again. But yeah, it was amazing." + }, + { + "start": 5235.76, + "end": 5239.6, + "text": " Hearing you explain it is like you're so present. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 5239.6, + "end": 5242.320000000001, + "text": " You can tell that you're just you were so present in that moment." + }, + { + "start": 5242.320000000001, + "end": 5245.6, + "text": " You stop thinking about like, well, you know, if I tell the softers," + }, + { + "start": 5245.6, + "end": 5248.4800000000005, + "text": " that no one's going to believe me or whatever it is, you're just like, wait a minute." + }, + { + "start": 5248.4800000000005, + "end": 5250.72, + "text": " Yeah. You know, nature makes you present like that." + }, + { + "start": 5250.72, + "end": 5255.280000000001, + "text": " And that's what I love about nature is it's completely unbiased as well. Like if that whale wanted" + }, + { + "start": 5255.280000000001, + "end": 5259.84, + "text": " to have a snack, then you know, it's not looking at you going, I know, but that's a famous person." + }, + { + "start": 5259.84, + "end": 5264.16, + "text": " I've got to leave him alone or it just you are at one with mother nature." + }, + { + "start": 5264.16, + "end": 5266.5599999999995, + "text": " We're in the middle of the ocean. There's nothing we could do." + }, + { + "start": 5267.28, + "end": 5271.12, + "text": " And we just were able to enjoy it somewhat maybe like being in the cave." + }, + { + "start": 5271.12, + "end": 5276.48, + "text": " Like you were saying, it was just about us and this whale, my brother and I were holding hands." + }, + { + "start": 5276.48, + "end": 5282.16, + "text": " But then as soon as it presented itself to us, any stress just dissipated." + }, + { + "start": 5282.16, + "end": 5286.8, + "text": " And it was just this unbelievable experience. And it was so leveling. It was so humbling." + }, + { + "start": 5286.8, + "end": 5289.12, + "text": " That it makes me feel like I can take on certain things." + }, + { + "start": 5289.84, + "end": 5293.36, + "text": " So it was honestly even thinking about the experience down my heart is racing." + }, + { + "start": 5293.36, + "end": 5295.92, + "text": " Yeah, I can imagine. It was wild." + }, + { + "start": 5295.92, + "end": 5297.679999999999, + "text": " Yeah, it was a cool experience. That's unbelievable." + }, + { + "start": 5297.679999999999, + "end": 5301.759999999999, + "text": " That's an incredible experience. And it is different from the cave though," + }, + { + "start": 5301.759999999999, + "end": 5305.36, + "text": " because I do think it's different when you're with another living being." + }, + { + "start": 5305.36, + "end": 5305.839999999999, + "text": " Sure." + }, + { + "start": 5305.839999999999, + "end": 5307.36, + "text": " And so that's what I found." + }, + { + "start": 5307.36, + "end": 5312.16, + "text": " Like my closest experience to what you're talking about is I went trekking" + }, + { + "start": 5312.16, + "end": 5315.44, + "text": " with, well, looking for mountain gorilla in Rwanda last night." + }, + { + "start": 5315.44, + "end": 5317.2, + "text": " Oh, that's hot. Have you been top of my list?" + }, + { + "start": 5317.2, + "end": 5318.24, + "text": " I would love to see that." + }, + { + "start": 5318.24, + "end": 5323.04, + "text": " Okay. Yeah, we should do it. I would do that again any day because it was unbelievable." + }, + { + "start": 5323.12, + "end": 5327.04, + "text": " So you're not again, these gorillas are not like in a park or something." + }, + { + "start": 5327.04, + "end": 5329.5199999999995, + "text": " No, no, no, no, they're mountain gorilla. They're in their world." + }, + { + "start": 5330.16, + "end": 5334.4, + "text": " And you go and look for them and there's no tagging devices or any tech." + }, + { + "start": 5334.4, + "end": 5337.28, + "text": " There's people who've watched the gorilla for so many years that they know" + }, + { + "start": 5337.92, + "end": 5340.8, + "text": " where their droppings are. They know where families hang out." + }, + { + "start": 5340.8, + "end": 5342.32, + "text": " They know what their routines are." + }, + { + "start": 5342.32, + "end": 5345.5199999999995, + "text": " So depending on what time you're going out, there's someone who's just around them who's calling" + }, + { + "start": 5345.5199999999995, + "end": 5348.32, + "text": " their friend, calling your guide saying walk this way." + }, + { + "start": 5348.32, + "end": 5349.04, + "text": " This is where you've got to go." + }, + { + "start": 5349.04, + "end": 5351.36, + "text": " Exactly. Just to make it very, very clear that, you know," + }, + { + "start": 5351.839999999999, + "end": 5353.04, + "text": " the gorilla has been treated very well." + }, + { + "start": 5354.4, + "end": 5359.04, + "text": " You're literally looking around and you could be on the lookout for them for like two to" + }, + { + "start": 5359.04, + "end": 5362.32, + "text": " six hours. You may not find them. You're just hiking." + }, + { + "start": 5362.32, + "end": 5364.96, + "text": " So you might not find them." + }, + { + "start": 5364.96, + "end": 5369.44, + "text": " So we found them in two hours. One group that we heard about because you go in smaller groups of" + }, + { + "start": 5369.44, + "end": 5374.0, + "text": " like 10, the other group that we are friends with, they took eight hours to find gorillas," + }, + { + "start": 5374.0, + "end": 5377.839999999999, + "text": " but they saw them too. And when I went, I was kind of like, oh, we're going to see one gorilla," + }, + { + "start": 5377.839999999999, + "end": 5381.2, + "text": " whatever. They're going to be far away. I was a bit skeptical because I didn't know how" + }, + { + "start": 5381.2, + "end": 5385.76, + "text": " it was going to be. And it was incredible because we looked around for two hours and I'll show you" + }, + { + "start": 5385.76, + "end": 5390.4, + "text": " the video afterwards, but we got and we just saw them like hanging out kind of like, oh, I'm" + }, + { + "start": 5390.4, + "end": 5395.12, + "text": " looking at everyone here, just hanging out still. And then all of a sudden they all started walking" + }, + { + "start": 5395.12, + "end": 5399.92, + "text": " together and there was a family of 20 gorillas. You got two silver backs that are like, you know," + }, + { + "start": 5399.92, + "end": 5403.76, + "text": " they're like, they're fists are like, you know, just huge sap." + }, + { + "start": 5403.76, + "end": 5407.5199999999995, + "text": " You know, you got exactly. 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I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 5552.96, + "end": 5556.08, + "text": " No, no, no. I think that's I think you've actually taken it somewhere really beautiful." + }, + { + "start": 5556.08, + "end": 5560.8, + "text": " I think for me as well, it's humility. Yeah, that's right. And like when you when you meet someone" + }, + { + "start": 5560.8, + "end": 5566.400000000001, + "text": " new, rarely are we humble. Sure. We often feel the pressure to be like, or look at who I am. Or" + }, + { + "start": 5566.400000000001, + "end": 5571.04, + "text": " like, you know, or we're trying to create, even if it's not have ego, there's a certain sense of" + }, + { + "start": 5571.04, + "end": 5576.72, + "text": " like wanting to gain people's like and respect. Yeah. And you were like, no matter what I do," + }, + { + "start": 5576.72, + "end": 5581.2, + "text": " this whale or gorilla is not going to like or respect me. Sure. 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Mate." + }, + { + "start": 5639.76, + "end": 5645.360000000001, + "text": " Are they playing it here? Yeah. My local tennis club has got two courts. No way. You can't book them." + }, + { + "start": 5645.360000000001, + "end": 5650.240000000001, + "text": " They're so sold out. All right. Honestly, paddle tennis. I love tennis. Yeah. I think tennis is" + }, + { + "start": 5650.240000000001, + "end": 5654.96, + "text": " one of the best sports in the world. Yeah. And I think that they are the highest performing athletes" + }, + { + "start": 5654.96, + "end": 5661.200000000001, + "text": " some of in the world. But it's really hard tennis. Yeah. Like I find unless I'm playing with someone" + }, + { + "start": 5661.200000000001, + "end": 5667.04, + "text": " who's much better than me, I don't play well. Like I really, I need to be chasing someone. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 5667.12, + "end": 5672.8, + "text": " Paddle tennis is so social. It's easy to have great rallies. 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I have to ask you if you want to clarify the Harry Kane situation." + }, + { + "start": 6032.240000000001, + "end": 6036.88, + "text": " Because now tell you what, the reason why I say this is I had the dream. So I'm a Manchester United" + }, + { + "start": 6036.88, + "end": 6042.96, + "text": " support. Everyone on my community knows that very well. Right. I have always had the dream that Harry" + }, + { + "start": 6042.96, + "end": 6048.96, + "text": " Kane when when Rooney retired. Harry Kane was going to come to Manchester United. Okay. And he was" + }, + { + "start": 6048.96, + "end": 6052.72, + "text": " going to follow in the footsteps of all the great England forwards that have played. Okay." + }, + { + "start": 6052.72, + "end": 6058.08, + "text": " Manchester United. That didn't happen. Right. I'm still holding on to that dream. But you want him to" + }, + { + "start": 6058.08, + "end": 6063.6, + "text": " go somewhere else. Well, listen, listen, let me just clarify right. 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And he would fit into almost any team." + }, + { + "start": 6099.04, + "end": 6105.2, + "text": " And I'd love to see him on top. Yeah. And I interesting question. Do you think he would have had" + }, + { + "start": 6105.76, + "end": 6113.76, + "text": " a similar season to Holland had he gone to see? Oh, that's, uh, I personally think," + }, + { + "start": 6114.72, + "end": 6120.4, + "text": " because I think Holland's amazing. I think Holland with his age, his strength, and his mentality." + }, + { + "start": 6120.4, + "end": 6125.36, + "text": " You know what's crazy about Holland is I saw this interview and you know, obviously it hurts me" + }, + { + "start": 6125.36, + "end": 6130.8, + "text": " to say it, but city and all. But when Holland did this interview, he'd just scored like, I can't" + }, + { + "start": 6130.8, + "end": 6135.04, + "text": " remember which game it was. He's unbelievable. He scored like five goals that game. 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The thing for me is I love legacy. I love" + }, + { + "start": 6246.24, + "end": 6251.2, + "text": " seeing what players can do. I'm less about the teams. It's what I love about tennis or golf. It's" + }, + { + "start": 6251.2, + "end": 6255.84, + "text": " not about the team. It's about the player. I would just love to see what he could do there." + }, + { + "start": 6255.84, + "end": 6260.88, + "text": " I'm sure one day we'll see England race at trophy. We've got such a great young team." + }, + { + "start": 6263.28, + "end": 6267.44, + "text": " I admire them all. But yeah, I think it's a great move for him. He's only 19 or something like that." + }, + { + "start": 6267.44, + "end": 6271.759999999999, + "text": " It's insane. He's 19. That's wild. Incredible. He's a year older than my brother Paddy." + }, + { + "start": 6272.32, + "end": 6278.96, + "text": " That's mental. You've been amazing today. Honestly, this has been some of the most fun I've had" + }, + { + "start": 6278.96, + "end": 6284.0, + "text": " in a long time. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. We ask everyone the final five. These are the" + }, + { + "start": 6284.0, + "end": 6289.599999999999, + "text": " fast five questions, which means answers have to be one word to one sentence maximum. No more than that." + }, + { + "start": 6289.599999999999, + "end": 6294.08, + "text": " Done. You don't have to write or spell them out. No, no, no, no, no." + }, + { + "start": 6294.16, + "end": 6299.04, + "text": " A long, a long segment. None of that. All right. Tom Holland, is your final five." + }, + { + "start": 6299.84, + "end": 6305.36, + "text": " Question one, what is the best advice you've ever received? To turn your nerves into excitement." + }, + { + "start": 6305.36, + "end": 6308.88, + "text": " I like that. That would never have done the show. I loved that. All right. 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I barely watch TV shows if I'm completely honest. And" + }, + { + "start": 6582.32, + "end": 6588.4, + "text": " it's because I like something that makes me think and reflect and, you know, and entertain me" + }, + { + "start": 6588.4, + "end": 6593.28, + "text": " at the same time. Sure. And I think it does a brilliant job of doing all three. Like it's gripping." + }, + { + "start": 6593.28, + "end": 6597.5199999999995, + "text": " I'm like, trying to figure out what's going on next. Nice. At the same time, I'm like, it's amazing" + }, + { + "start": 6597.5199999999995, + "end": 6604.08, + "text": " watching you being able to be this very different character to what we know you as. Sure." + }, + { + "start": 6604.08, + "end": 6607.759999999999, + "text": " And that's really impressive. So even on like, even on a performance level, I'm like, I'm" + }, + { + "start": 6607.759999999999, + "end": 6612.48, + "text": " forgetting that you are Spider-Man. Nice. Right. 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I'm Eli and this is Rian. The BBC makes hundreds" + }, + { + "start": 22.64, + "end": 27.240000000000002, + "text": " of podcasts and it can be hard to know where to start. So that's where we come in." + }, + { + "start": 27.240000000000002, + "end": 31.04, + "text": " Twice a week, Rian and I play you a different episode of a different podcast and if you" + }, + { + "start": 31.04, + "end": 35.92, + "text": " like it you can search for it and subscribe to it. So what have we got to date, Rian?" + }, + { + "start": 35.92, + "end": 40.96, + "text": " We have got the first episode, which is a good job, the first episode of a new drama called" + }, + { + "start": 40.96, + "end": 47.28, + "text": " That Was Then. So this is one of those intriguing dramas. You're not really sure where you're" + }, + { + "start": 47.28, + "end": 52.16, + "text": " going or what's happening. So you have to stay with it Eli and eventually you start to" + }, + { + "start": 52.16, + "end": 57.8, + "text": " untangle the threads and it's a very rewarding listen. So it's not just like a who done it." + }, + { + "start": 57.8, + "end": 64.92, + "text": " It's sort of what is it? Yes, it is a many layered and intriguing offer. I'm going to say no more." + }, + { + "start": 64.92, + "end": 70.44, + "text": " I've got you listen for yourself. Okay. Oh and stick around after this episode for an interview" + }, + { + "start": 70.44, + "end": 77.0, + "text": " that we did with the lead actress in this podcast, Rosie Cavallero. Here it is, episode one of That Was Then." + }, + { + "start": 87.8, + "end": 92.36, + "text": " Yeah, she dropped it. She dropped the bear. I've got it. I've got it here." + }, + { + "start": 92.36, + "end": 98.67999999999999, + "text": " It is written. Ben. Ben. Ben. Ben. Ben." + }, + { + "start": 98.67999999999999, + "end": 104.36, + "text": " Yeah, chapter seven, chapter three. It's going to be full version. It is written." + }, + { + "start": 104.36, + "end": 109.4, + "text": " This is back in the year of the stop it. Stop it. Stop it. You've got to stop watching this." + }, + { + "start": 109.56, + "end": 120.36000000000001, + "text": " When all this shit disappears, when it all turns out to be nothing, I'll delete it. I'll chuck this bloody" + }, + { + "start": 120.36000000000001, + "end": 131.96, + "text": " phone in the river and tell them I got mugged. Right. This is Anna Sanwell. This is my first" + }, + { + "start": 132.92000000000002, + "end": 140.04000000000002, + "text": " recording, I suppose. It all started with a phone call from Nottingham, of course." + }, + { + "start": 142.60000000000002, + "end": 149.0, + "text": " Here. So, I'm looking for Anna Marmian. Oh yes, that's me. That's my old name. Oh, you're not" + }, + { + "start": 149.0, + "end": 153.64000000000001, + "text": " easy to find, Anna. Sorry, what was this about? Is this parish business? You're the Anna" + }, + { + "start": 153.64000000000001, + "end": 159.64000000000001, + "text": " Marmian, who is at Nottingham University, right? 19. Sorry. I should have explained that after that." + }, + { + "start": 159.64, + "end": 167.0, + "text": " Sorry. This was about three days ago. No, actually, it was exactly three days ago. Wednesday. Okay." + }, + { + "start": 168.44, + "end": 176.51999999999998, + "text": " Oh, I'll go back. There. This is about as this parish business. Sorry, that thing, I said just" + }, + { + "start": 176.51999999999998, + "end": 182.44, + "text": " now about habit. I'll explain. I'll explain that to you. Just right back again. Sorry." + }, + { + "start": 183.72, + "end": 187.16, + "text": " Sorry, what was this about as this parish business? At You're the Anna Marmian, who is at Nottingham" + }, + { + "start": 187.16, + "end": 193.4, + "text": " University, right? 1995. Sorry, who is this? I'm from the evening post, I'm putting together a" + }, + { + "start": 193.4, + "end": 197.64, + "text": " piece for today. We want to know, are you shocked by this decision? Are you angry? Your friend's" + }, + { + "start": 197.64, + "end": 202.6, + "text": " killer's been released? Sorry. You haven't beat the court of appeal. Jules Winter is a" + }, + { + "start": 202.6, + "end": 209.24, + "text": " appeal, I mean. Jules Winter? Yes, been released this afternoon is one free man. What? I didn't" + }, + { + "start": 209.24, + "end": 212.76, + "text": " even know there was a... The lawyer found an alibi. It proves he couldn't have been it. Alibi?" + }, + { + "start": 213.72, + "end": 218.2, + "text": " You didn't even know this. Well, obviously, I... Does it sound? 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But he came in our house, he still bends" + }, + { + "start": 243.72, + "end": 248.51999999999998, + "text": " wallet. How did they explain that? It's not their job. So, could you describe how was it when" + }, + { + "start": 248.51999999999998, + "end": 252.04, + "text": " you found the body, the transcript mentions the substantial quantities of his blood and the" + }, + { + "start": 252.04, + "end": 258.36, + "text": " clothing? What? Have you ever got over that? The shock, the horror of it. And the victim was" + }, + { + "start": 258.36, + "end": 263.8, + "text": " you, you live together, right? You and Ben? Well, we shared a house, I mean, students, you make" + }, + { + "start": 263.8, + "end": 271.08, + "text": " it sound like we were having... Can you give me a number for CB Krull or Aravin Tarka," + }, + { + "start": 271.08, + "end": 276.04, + "text": " that you guys all still in touch? No, we still, we haven't, we don't. 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The day we have all earned" + }, + { + "start": 423.71999999999997, + "end": 429.59999999999997, + "text": " the man who is sitting there in front of his petri-" + }, + { + "start": 429.59999999999997, + "end": 434.36, + "text": " and wall of photos, shots of a house, the murder weapon. He's got the six of us in our" + }, + { + "start": 434.36, + "end": 440.28, + "text": " morta-boards. That must have, from some university thing, looking so sensible." + }, + { + "start": 441.71999999999997, + "end": 445.56, + "text": " Rose will stern and doing it right. Vinnie looks plain terrified. Phoebe doesn't care," + }, + { + "start": 445.56, + "end": 452.76, + "text": " I still wish she was at Cambridge. And Harry, not the real Harry. Ben," + }, + { + "start": 454.28, + "end": 466.59999999999997, + "text": " never got older. 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Another thing should explain, there was this man stalking me, um, it's about six months" + }, + { + "start": 516.28, + "end": 519.24, + "text": " again. Nothing sexual, it was a religious thing. You get them sometimes." + }, + { + "start": 520.28, + "end": 526.44, + "text": " Something to do with the apocryphal. It wasn't a well man, but it was always his word against mine," + }, + { + "start": 526.44, + "end": 530.28, + "text": " so a call recorder app makes me feel safer." + }, + { + "start": 530.36, + "end": 531.0799999999999, + "text": " Oh, the boys." + }, + { + "start": 531.0799999999999, + "end": 537.4, + "text": " Whip. Really, you know, the whole point, a wake-off grid, no devices, me, the boys," + }, + { + "start": 538.28, + "end": 544.92, + "text": " tent, forest, you know how much. I value this. Oh, oh, what is it?" + }, + { + "start": 545.56, + "end": 550.76, + "text": " Bloody fuckery, yeah. What's wrong? Let me just handle this." + }, + { + "start": 551.56, + "end": 556.1999999999999, + "text": " Harry? Harry, are you okay? Harry, Harry." + }, + { + "start": 556.5200000000001, + "end": 558.5200000000001, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 558.5200000000001, + "end": 559.0, + "text": " What?" + }, + { + "start": 559.0, + "end": 561.24, + "text": " I stepped in something." + }, + { + "start": 561.24, + "end": 562.2800000000001, + "text": " All right. What do you mean?" + }, + { + "start": 562.2800000000001, + "end": 566.5200000000001, + "text": " Fuck, so bad you're wrong. I don't know what." + }, + { + "start": 566.5200000000001, + "end": 567.5600000000001, + "text": " I thought you liked all that." + }, + { + "start": 567.5600000000001, + "end": 570.9200000000001, + "text": " I like walking in shit. What's wrong with you, Harry?" + }, + { + "start": 570.9200000000001, + "end": 576.76, + "text": " I'm sorry. I am not very... 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You promised me that, right?" + }, + { + "start": 695.0799999999999, + "end": 697.24, + "text": " Not once, not once." + }, + { + "start": 697.24, + "end": 698.76, + "text": " Did I think of those tapes?" + }, + { + "start": 699.64, + "end": 701.0799999999999, + "text": " Harry reminded me." + }, + { + "start": 702.36, + "end": 703.24, + "text": " He wouldn't have, would he?" + }, + { + "start": 704.68, + "end": 705.0799999999999, + "text": " Would he?" + }, + { + "start": 706.6, + "end": 709.72, + "text": " Just like he said, it was in the loft behind the Lego and the Playmobile." + }, + { + "start": 710.68, + "end": 711.56, + "text": " I loved Playmobile." + }, + { + "start": 712.28, + "end": 716.36, + "text": " The real stuff, the farm, the zoo and the public sector stuff." + }, + { + "start": 717.0, + "end": 718.12, + "text": " None of that dragon rubbish." + }, + { + "start": 719.24, + "end": 721.3199999999999, + "text": " Behind the trunk of clothes, I couldn't give up." + }, + { 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1465.76, + "text": " So thank you for calling us." + }, + { + "start": 1465.76, + "end": 1469.8, + "text": " I'm sorry that we're having a little bit of trouble explaining it on the air." + }, + { + "start": 1469.8, + "end": 1474.0, + "text": " It's just that we don't want to risk any privacy as, especially considering that privacy" + }, + { + "start": 1474.0, + "end": 1476.56, + "text": " seems to be a little bit of a concern for you." + }, + { + "start": 1476.56, + "end": 1479.08, + "text": " So we don't want to risk any of that." + }, + { + "start": 1479.08, + "end": 1482.64, + "text": " Email us at every day tech at mpbeonline.org." + }, + { + "start": 1482.64, + "end": 1485.28, + "text": " So what is everyone watching right now?" + }, + { + "start": 1485.28, + "end": 1487.68, + "text": " What TV shows or movies are popular?" + }, + { + "start": 1487.68, + "end": 1493.04, + "text": " This is Abram Nanny still here with Sabir Abdul-Hot who is ready to answer your questions." + }, + 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Well, that's going to wrap us up for the day." + }, + { + "start": 2779.4, + "end": 2782.4, + "text": " So thanks, Sabir, for helping myself and our callers out." + }, + { + "start": 2782.4, + "end": 2783.4, + "text": " It's been a good show." + }, + { + "start": 2783.4, + "end": 2785.4, + "text": " We covered a lot of topics today." + }, + { + "start": 2785.4, + "end": 2790.4, + "text": " So if you have any questions, email everyday tech at mpbonline.org." + }, + { + "start": 2790.4, + "end": 2792.4, + "text": " Today's show is engineered by Jermaine Flood." + }, + { + "start": 2792.4, + "end": 2794.4, + "text": " Our call screener was Will Pickering." + }, + { + "start": 2794.4, + "end": 2796.4, + "text": " I've been your host, Abram Nanny." + }, + { + "start": 2796.4, + "end": 2801.4, + "text": " Turn in next Wednesday at 10 on mpbthinkradio for more everyday tech." + }, + { + "start": 2801.4, + "end": 2803.4, + "text": " This is an mpbthinkradio podcast." + }, + { + "start": 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You mean place lovingly?" + }, + { + "start": 53.2, + "end": 54.24, + "text": " Yes, yes." + }, + { + "start": 54.24, + "end": 55.2, + "text": " Thank you Eli." + }, + { + "start": 55.2, + "end": 58.800000000000004, + "text": " Yes, we're lovingly crafted and recrafted and placed online." + }, + { + "start": 58.800000000000004, + "end": 63.52, + "text": " But now the BBC has recognised that podcasting is a distinct medium." + }, + { + "start": 65.60000000000001, + "end": 69.04, + "text": " So this is the first of a set of new podcast commissions." + }, + { + "start": 69.04, + "end": 70.48, + "text": " It's called The Boring Talks." + }, + { + "start": 70.48, + "end": 75.12, + "text": " This one is a special podcast version of The Boring Conference." + }, + { + "start": 75.12, + "end": 76.48, + "text": " Is it boring?" + }, + { + "start": 76.48, + "end": 84.48, + "text": " Well, each speaker takes an ostensibly boring topic and examines it so closely" + }, + { + "start": 84.48, + "end": 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So we're going to have to narrow it down a lot more in order to" + }, + { + "start": 561.52, + "end": 568.16, + "text": " get to this specific day. Thankfully, Douglas Adams gives us one really important piece of" + }, + { + "start": 568.16, + "end": 572.0, + "text": " information with the following exchange. It also happens in the horse and groom." + }, + { + "start": 573.36, + "end": 578.8, + "text": " Going to watch the match this afternoon then, Ford glanced at him, no no point, he said and" + }, + { + "start": 578.8, + "end": 583.68, + "text": " looked out the window. What's that? Forgon conclusion then, you're a concern, said the barman," + }, + { + "start": 583.76, + "end": 594.3199999999999, + "text": " Arsenal without a chance. This is the key piece of information that we needed. Arsenal are playing" + }, + { + "start": 594.3199999999999, + "end": 600.2399999999999, + "text": " football on a Thursday. 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This is a vital piece of information that we need. If we can find Arsenal" + }, + { + "start": 632.88, + "end": 638.48, + "text": " playing in the West country on a Thursday, this is very easy. So I looked at every single Arsenal" + }, + { + "start": 638.5600000000001, + "end": 646.64, + "text": " football club fixture from 1971 to 1987. There are four occasions on which Arsenal plays on a" + }, + { + "start": 646.64, + "end": 655.6800000000001, + "text": " Thursday. They are the 11th of May 1972, Arsenal vs Tottenham, Division 1, the 26th of December 1974," + }, + { + "start": 655.6800000000001, + "end": 662.64, + "text": " Arsenal vs Chelsea, in Division 1. The 1st of May 1980, Arsenal vs Liverpool FA Cup semi-final," + }, + { + "start": 662.64, + "end": 667.92, + "text": " 3rd replay. And the 1st of January 1987, Arsenal vs Wimbledon in Division 1." + }, + { + "start": 672.0, + "end": 677.68, + "text": " None of these games are in the West country. So we've caught him out. Except maybe we haven't caught" + }, + { + "start": 677.68, + "end": 683.92, + "text": " him out. Because let's not forget, Ford and Arthur are drinking in the morning. And the game" + }, + { + "start": 683.92, + "end": 688.72, + "text": " we already know is later in the day. So we need to know the time that they were drinking and whether" + }, + { + "start": 688.8000000000001, + "end": 692.8000000000001, + "text": " it's possible for them to travel to an Arsenal game. Because otherwise we've caught Douglas Adams" + }, + { + "start": 692.8000000000001, + "end": 699.2, + "text": " out completely. In order to answer this question, I turned to Dr James Neal, who is a Geographer working" + }, + { + "start": 699.2, + "end": 705.0400000000001, + "text": " at University College London. And one of James's areas of research is the history and geography of" + }, + { + "start": 705.0400000000001, + "end": 711.9200000000001, + "text": " boozing in Britain. And I said to James, when did pubs open in the UK on a Thursday between 1971" + }, + { + "start": 711.92, + "end": 717.52, + "text": " and 1987. And he referred me to the Licensing Act 1964, Section 60, which says," + }, + { + "start": 718.16, + "end": 722.4799999999999, + "text": " on weekdays, other than Christmas Day or Good Friday, the hours from 11 in the morning to" + }, + { + "start": 722.4799999999999, + "end": 726.9599999999999, + "text": " half past 10 in the evening with a break of two and a half hours beginning at three in the afternoon," + }, + { + "start": 726.9599999999999, + "end": 732.7199999999999, + "text": " which is around about way of saying pubs open at 11. If we want to calculate whether it's" + }, + { + "start": 732.7199999999999, + "end": 737.36, + "text": " possible to go to the pub in the West country from 11am and still make it to an Arsenal game," + }, + { + "start": 737.36, + "end": 742.88, + "text": " we need to look at how quickly you can travel from horse and groom pubs in the West country" + }, + { + "start": 742.88, + "end": 748.96, + "text": " to Arsenal. So what I did first of all was I had a look at where the West country is," + }, + { + "start": 748.96, + "end": 754.5600000000001, + "text": " as a lovely Wikipedia page for the West country that defines this area as a loosely defined area" + }, + { + "start": 754.5600000000001, + "end": 760.24, + "text": " of Southwest England. The second thing I did was use Google Maps to locate every single pub" + }, + { + "start": 760.24, + "end": 765.28, + "text": " called the horse and groom in the West country. If we take a typical horse and groom pub in the" + }, + { + "start": 765.28, + "end": 770.3199999999999, + "text": " West country, I've chosen to have a look at the horse and groom up at Oddington, partly because" + }, + { + "start": 770.3199999999999, + "end": 777.1999999999999, + "text": " it has a very beautiful, easy to find and easy to read website, and partly because it's a quintessential" + }, + { + "start": 777.1999999999999, + "end": 783.28, + "text": " village in dating back to 1580. And if it's been an instance 1580, it was definitely open between" + }, + { + "start": 783.28, + "end": 789.1999999999999, + "text": " 1971 and 1987. If you are drinking at the horse and groom up at Oddington, according to the AA" + }, + { + "start": 789.2800000000001, + "end": 795.5200000000001, + "text": " Root Planner, it takes 2 hours and 2 minutes to drive the 85.3 miles to the Highbury Stadium," + }, + { + "start": 795.5200000000001, + "end": 802.0, + "text": " not you'll note the new Arsenal Emirates Stadium built after 1987. So you've got plenty of time" + }, + { + "start": 802.0, + "end": 810.4000000000001, + "text": " to down six very quick pints and then have somebody else crucially drive you to the stadium." + }, + { + "start": 810.88, + "end": 822.88, + "text": " Anyway, let's have a little look at some of these games because I've got four possible dates for" + }, + { + "start": 822.88, + "end": 826.3199999999999, + "text": " the end of the world and I want to get rid of some of them. I want to draw your attention to" + }, + { + "start": 826.3199999999999, + "end": 831.4399999999999, + "text": " two games to start with. The first is Arsenal Chelsea on the 26th of December 1974," + }, + { + "start": 831.4399999999999, + "end": 836.96, + "text": " and the second is Arsenal Wimbledon on the 1st of January 1987. These games have one thing in common," + }, + { + "start": 836.96, + "end": 841.6800000000001, + "text": " which is that they are the day after a major public holiday. Now we know from the Hitchhiker's" + }, + { + "start": 841.6800000000001, + "end": 847.0400000000001, + "text": " guide to the galaxy that the day before the world is destroyed Arthur is in the pub. It says" + }, + { + "start": 847.0400000000001, + "end": 854.0, + "text": " the pub, he thought, oh dear, the pub. He vaguely remembered being angry. However, the book doesn't say" + }, + { + "start": 854.0, + "end": 858.8000000000001, + "text": " Arthur was in the pub because it was Christmas day and the book doesn't say Arthur was in the pub" + }, + { + "start": 858.8000000000001, + "end": 863.6800000000001, + "text": " because it was New Year's Eve. So I'd like to rule these dates out, but I know that many of you" + }, + { + "start": 863.76, + "end": 868.3199999999999, + "text": " are skeptical listeners to this talk, and you're thinking, well Steve, you can't just rule those out" + }, + { + "start": 868.3199999999999, + "end": 873.12, + "text": " on the omission of facts. Sometimes books have to skip over details, in which case I have a second" + }, + { + "start": 873.12, + "end": 878.64, + "text": " argument to convince you. One of the things that we know about the Thursday morning when the world" + }, + { + "start": 878.64, + "end": 885.28, + "text": " was destroyed was that as Arthur awoke, the Thursday morning sun was bright and clear. We also know" + }, + { + "start": 885.28, + "end": 890.0, + "text": " that the time Arthur awoke was eight o'clock. The book says at eight o'clock on Thursday morning," + }, + { + "start": 890.24, + "end": 895.68, + "text": " Arthur didn't feel very good. I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that, according to the" + }, + { + "start": 895.68, + "end": 901.2, + "text": " Met Office website, on the 26th of December and the 1st of January in the West country, the sun" + }, + { + "start": 901.2, + "end": 907.6, + "text": " rises at 814. There is no way the sun can be bright and clear at the moment Arthur wakes up" + }, + { + "start": 907.6, + "end": 913.6, + "text": " if either of these days is the end of the world. Great news. We have our four possible dates for the" + }, + { + "start": 913.6, + "end": 919.36, + "text": " end of the world down to two. Let me remind you, they are the 11th of May 1972, Arsenal vs Tottenham" + }, + { + "start": 919.52, + "end": 925.2, + "text": " in Division 1 and the 1st of May 1980, Arsenal vs Liverpool in FA Cup semi-final replay." + }, + { + "start": 925.84, + "end": 930.5600000000001, + "text": " The first thing we know about both of these games is that they're evening kickoffs. We can" + }, + { + "start": 930.5600000000001, + "end": 935.92, + "text": " find on eBay paraphernalia from the games. There's an Arsenal Tottenham program, which says kickoff" + }, + { + "start": 935.92, + "end": 942.72, + "text": " 730pm. Old ticket stubs are still on sale from the Arsenal Liverpool game which had a kickoff of 745pm." + }, + { + "start": 950.08, + "end": 954.96, + "text": " The second thing that we need to do is to have a look at the timeline of the book itself," + }, + { + "start": 954.96, + "end": 959.84, + "text": " to try and work out where our heroes go, see if there are hints in the text that tell us the day" + }, + { + "start": 959.84, + "end": 965.44, + "text": " that the world ends. I'll recap. We know that Arthur Dent wakes up at 8am. We know that," + }, + { + "start": 966.16, + "end": 972.32, + "text": " Arthur and Ford can't start drinking any earlier than 11am. We know that a couple of hours after" + }, + { + "start": 972.32, + "end": 978.08, + "text": " this they are on a Vogue-on spaceship. We know that when they are ejected from the Vogue-on spaceship" + }, + { + "start": 978.1600000000001, + "end": 983.84, + "text": " because the book on page 57 gives us, it's now just after four in the afternoon and I'm already" + }, + { + "start": 983.84, + "end": 988.8000000000001, + "text": " being thrown out of an alien spaceship. 30 seconds after they are thrown off the ship," + }, + { + "start": 988.8000000000001, + "end": 994.08, + "text": " Arthur and Ford are picked up by a second spaceship, the heart of gold. The heart of gold then" + }, + { + "start": 994.08, + "end": 1000.96, + "text": " travels to the planet of Magarathia. Two nuclear missiles are fired at it by a long dormant race" + }, + { + "start": 1000.96, + "end": 1007.84, + "text": " of people. The book doesn't mention at any point anybody having a sleep, having their" + }, + { + "start": 1007.84, + "end": 1013.2, + "text": " dinner, going to the Lou or drinking anything other than a cup of tea in this time," + }, + { + "start": 1013.2, + "end": 1018.1600000000001, + "text": " which means I naturally assume that all of this story takes place in a single day. If we look at" + }, + { + "start": 1018.1600000000001, + "end": 1022.1600000000001, + "text": " the timings, that means that it's likely that nuclear missiles are fired at the heart of gold" + }, + { + "start": 1022.1600000000001, + "end": 1028.48, + "text": " somewhere between 8pm and 10pm in the evening. The amazing thing about the spaceship part of gold" + }, + { + "start": 1028.48, + "end": 1032.72, + "text": " in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is that it's powered by something called the infinite" + }, + { + "start": 1032.72, + "end": 1037.1200000000001, + "text": " improbability drive. The thing we need to know about the infinite improbability drive is that every" + }, + { + "start": 1037.12, + "end": 1042.9599999999998, + "text": " time the heart of gold travels, it does so by passing through every single point in the universe" + }, + { + "start": 1042.9599999999998, + "end": 1047.84, + "text": " that it didn't have it simultaneously and then ending up at the place that it wanted to go." + }, + { + "start": 1048.56, + "end": 1054.3999999999999, + "text": " The other thing that we know is that the universe that the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy exists in" + }, + { + "start": 1054.3999999999999, + "end": 1061.76, + "text": " is one of many universes in our multiverse. And interestingly, recent research published in Physics" + }, + { + "start": 1061.76, + "end": 1069.28, + "text": " Review X has started to suggest that in any given universe there is a point where that universe" + }, + { + "start": 1069.28, + "end": 1075.28, + "text": " connects with other universes of the multiverse. Current physics thinking suggests that there are" + }, + { + "start": 1075.28, + "end": 1080.8799999999999, + "text": " ways for different universes to talk to each other. Let's recap. The spaceship the heart of gold" + }, + { + "start": 1080.8799999999999, + "end": 1086.32, + "text": " passes through every single point in its own universe simultaneously, which means that the heart of" + }, + { + "start": 1086.56, + "end": 1092.56, + "text": " gold must pass through the point in its universe which is in contact with our universe when it travels" + }, + { + "start": 1092.56, + "end": 1100.3999999999999, + "text": " to macrothia. What this means is if we look for echoes of our universe within the book, this will tell" + }, + { + "start": 1100.3999999999999, + "end": 1106.6399999999999, + "text": " us which day it was that the earth is destroyed and I draw your attention to a specific part of" + }, + { + "start": 1106.6399999999999, + "end": 1111.04, + "text": " the description of the launch of new clear missiles from macrothia. It says the following." + }, + { + "start": 1112.0, + "end": 1120.3999999999999, + "text": " The computer started to sink. When you walk through the storm it winds nasily. Hold your head up high," + }, + { + "start": 1120.3999999999999, + "end": 1125.04, + "text": " Zeyford screamed at it to shut up but his voice was lost in the din of what they quite naturally" + }, + { + "start": 1125.04, + "end": 1130.8799999999999, + "text": " assumed was approaching destruction. And don't be afraid of the dark." + }, + { + "start": 1131.2800000000002, + "end": 1139.2, + "text": " If you're thinking, Steve, why is that a hint to a football game?" + }, + { + "start": 1139.68, + "end": 1160.24, + "text": " Some of you will recognise these words, maybe the more football literature view, maybe the more" + }, + { + "start": 1160.24, + "end": 1164.48, + "text": " musical theatre literature view. These words are of course from the song, you'll never walk alone," + }, + { + "start": 1164.48, + "end": 1169.04, + "text": " take them from the musical carousel written by Rogers and Hammerstein but these words are more" + }, + { + "start": 1169.04, + "end": 1176.24, + "text": " famous as the anthem of Liverpool Football Club. So there is only one conclusion. The day that" + }, + { + "start": 1176.24, + "end": 1181.28, + "text": " the earth ends in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the date of the Arsenal Liverpool FA Cup" + }, + { + "start": 1181.28, + "end": 1190.0, + "text": " semi-final third replay played on the 1st of May 1980. However, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the" + }, + { + "start": 1190.0, + "end": 1196.24, + "text": " Galaxy was written in 1978 so we've discovered Douglas Adams definitely wasn't a hack. Douglas" + }, + { + "start": 1196.24, + "end": 1202.48, + "text": " Adams definitely could do research but he could only do research using his psychic powers to read the future." + }, + { + "start": 1213.36, + "end": 1216.48, + "text": " And that princessed the end of this edition of the football insorts." + }, + { + "start": 1216.56, + "end": 1227.44, + "text": " I'm James Ward and the producer was Luke Doran. Join us next time when we find out how a book on" + }, + { + "start": 1227.44, + "end": 1234.32, + "text": " fly genetics became one of the most expensive books in the world." + }, + { + "start": 1247.1200000000001, + "end": 1252.64, + "text": " Okay so I'm here now with Steve Cross who you've just heard talking about the end of the world." + }, + { + "start": 1252.64, + "end": 1257.44, + "text": " There was just one thing I wanted to ask you. Are you going to come at me about my analysis?" + }, + { + "start": 1257.44, + "end": 1261.52, + "text": " Because I want to warn you about this James because I've had a number of people come at me about" + }, + { + "start": 1261.52, + "end": 1266.32, + "text": " this analysis. Apparently book three says something different, don't care, I'm only analysing book one." + }, + { + "start": 1266.32, + "end": 1271.76, + "text": " I just wanted to question one thing. No please I'm keen for you to question one thing." + }, + { + "start": 1272.08, + "end": 1281.36, + "text": " So you pinpoint the end of the world as occurring on Thursday the 1st of May 1980 on the basis of" + }, + { + "start": 1281.36, + "end": 1287.52, + "text": " the Arsenal vs Liverpool match. On Equivically. Kick off 745 p.m. That's correct." + }, + { + "start": 1288.24, + "end": 1295.28, + "text": " And you quote as part of your evidence. Yes. This conversation from the book." + }, + { + "start": 1296.64, + "end": 1299.92, + "text": " Going to watch the match this afternoon then ford launched at him." + }, + { + "start": 1299.92, + "end": 1303.68, + "text": " Well James this is one of the wonders of the English language." + }, + { + "start": 1303.68, + "end": 1306.8000000000002, + "text": " It's going to watch the match this afternoon then." + }, + { + "start": 1306.8000000000002, + "end": 1310.8000000000002, + "text": " But it's the wonder of the English language is that sentences are often imprecise." + }, + { + "start": 1310.8000000000002, + "end": 1313.1200000000001, + "text": " So let's take a moment to look at this sentence in depth." + }, + { + "start": 1313.1200000000001, + "end": 1317.52, + "text": " Remember this is about deep reading. Going to watch the match this afternoon then." + }, + { + "start": 1317.52, + "end": 1322.96, + "text": " Not watching the match this afternoon implying that the match is this afternoon." + }, + { + "start": 1322.96, + "end": 1327.28, + "text": " But going to watch the match this afternoon. Let's remember it's an evening kick off." + }, + { + "start": 1327.76, + "end": 1332.24, + "text": " They've got to get from the West country to Coventry where the game's playing." + }, + { + "start": 1332.24, + "end": 1337.84, + "text": " They're probably going to have to go to watch the match at some point in the afternoon." + }, + { + "start": 1337.84, + "end": 1340.24, + "text": " In order to be there in the evening it makes perfect sense." + }, + { + "start": 1340.24, + "end": 1344.96, + "text": " So you're interpreting that sentence. Going to watch the match this afternoon then." + }, + { + "start": 1344.96, + "end": 1348.96, + "text": " As going this afternoon then to watch the match." + }, + { + "start": 1348.96, + "end": 1353.6, + "text": " It's more that I'm not interpreting it as watching the match this afternoon then." + }, + { + "start": 1353.6, + "end": 1357.52, + "text": " I think the going is a very intentional addition to that sentence." + }, + { + "start": 1358.3999999999999, + "end": 1359.36, + "text": " I think that solves it." + }, + { + "start": 1364.3999999999999, + "end": 1367.36, + "text": " So that's the boring talks. 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It's impossible." + }, + { + "start": 141.32, + "end": 150.32, + "text": " I'm Alex Kretowski and in today's episode of Digital Human, I'm looking at blissful ignorance." + }, + { + "start": 150.32, + "end": 154.32, + "text": " Follow the conversation at hashtag DigiHuman." + }, + { + "start": 154.32, + "end": 160.92, + "text": " There is something remarkable about the firehose of information that we can access through the web." + }, + { + "start": 160.92, + "end": 168.72, + "text": " Not just in its very existence, that is pretty remarkable, but also in how it affects what we believe about our own abilities." + }, + { + "start": 168.72, + "end": 172.32, + "text": " It makes us think that we are smarter than we really are." + }, + { + "start": 175.32, + "end": 185.92, + "text": " What we've been finding in our research is that when people search online, they tend to mistake the answers that they find for information that they already knew." + }, + { + "start": 185.92, + "end": 192.92, 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The producer this week was Kate Bissel, and the researcher was Elizabeth Ann Duffy." + }, + { + "start": 1768.52, + "end": 1781.52, + "text": " So that was Digital Human with Alex Kratowski. I completely agree that phones have killed a lot of great dinner party arguments." + }, + { + "start": 1781.52, + "end": 1788.52, + "text": " Who's in that film or stuff like that? It's like an entire category of conversation that just doesn't exist anymore." + }, + { + "start": 1788.52, + "end": 1792.52, + "text": " So you don't end up getting led down these little alleyways anymore because you can just take your phone out." + }, + { + "start": 1792.52, + "end": 1800.52, + "text": " Although I went to supper the other night with some friends of mine and one particular person at the party banned all phone usage." + }, + { + "start": 1800.52, + "end": 1805.52, + "text": " He said he'd collect up all the things we didn't know the answers to and he'd report back." + }, + { + "start": 1805.52, + "end": 1813.52, + "text": " So a day later I had a list of all the things that had been in contention and the answer as Googled by him." + }, + { + "start": 1813.52, + "end": 1820.52, + "text": " I thought that was great. So you get both. 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+ "start": 21.8, + "end": 24.8, + "text": " we are helping you find the best podcasts" + }, + { + "start": 24.8, + "end": 27.6, + "text": " from the hundreds of podcasts available to the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 27.6, + "end": 29.28, + "text": " So we'll pick one for you" + }, + { + "start": 29.36, + "end": 31.200000000000003, + "text": " and then you can go away and have a listen." + }, + { + "start": 31.200000000000003, + "end": 33.2, + "text": " And if you like it as much as we do," + }, + { + "start": 33.2, + "end": 34.4, + "text": " you can subscribe to it." + }, + { + "start": 34.4, + "end": 37.2, + "text": " So I'm Rian and with me, I have Eli" + }, + { + "start": 37.2, + "end": 39.2, + "text": " and he's got today's offering." + }, + { + "start": 39.2, + "end": 40.8, + "text": " I do. This is Leisure Society." + }, + { + "start": 40.8, + "end": 41.6, + "text": " Hang on, hang on." + }, + { + "start": 41.6, + "end": 42.08, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 42.08, + "end": 42.64, + "text": " This is what?" + }, + { + "start": 42.64, + "end": 43.52, + "text": " Oh no. What's going on?" + }, + { + "start": 43.52, + "end": 44.480000000000004, + "text": " Oh no. What have it done?" + }, + { + "start": 45.36, + "end": 46.64, + "text": " Just try the title again." + }, + { + "start": 46.64, + "end": 48.480000000000004, + "text": " It's Leisure Society." + }, + { + "start": 48.480000000000004, + "end": 50.88, + "text": " It's Leisure Society, Eli." + }, + { + "start": 50.88, + "end": 52.64, + "text": " You're in Britain now, mate." + }, + { + "start": 52.64, + "end": 53.92, + "text": " All right. I'm going to try that again." + }, + { + "start": 53.92, + "end": 54.400000000000006, + "text": " Yeah, you can." + }, + { + "start": 54.400000000000006, + "end": 54.96, + "text": " I take it from the top." + }, + { + "start": 54.96, + "end": 57.92, + "text": " This is Leisure Society." + }, + { + "start": 57.92, + "end": 58.56, + "text": " Well done." + }, + { + "start": 58.64, + "end": 62.88, + "text": " I feel like that's the name of a 90s Brit Pop band," + }, + { + "start": 62.88, + "end": 64.8, + "text": " like Men's Wear or something." + }, + { + "start": 64.8, + "end": 66.08, + "text": " Leisure is correct." + }, + { + "start": 66.08, + "end": 67.60000000000001, + "text": " Okay. 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Well that's the way you said it far" + }, + { + "start": 1972.5600000000002, + "end": 1979.2, + "text": " me yeah don't matter if I get them all muddy dup or anything I just throw them off yeah I can't" + }, + { + "start": 1979.2, + "end": 1983.6000000000001, + "text": " stand wellies I don't wear wellies why do you not like them? I can't get them on nothing" + }, + { + "start": 1983.6000000000001, + "end": 1989.44, + "text": " easy enough it's a it's a pain you know you put your hands on all the mud trying to get them off now" + }, + { + "start": 1989.76, + "end": 1991.52, + "text": " please I just click them off and go in the house" + }, + { + "start": 1997.52, + "end": 2005.2, + "text": " thank you for all of your work and just being very honest and true and still creating excellent work" + }, + { + "start": 2005.2, + "end": 2011.8400000000001, + "text": " yeah thank you and it's been a pleasure to be in your beautiful garden and just sort of be" + }, + { + "start": 2011.8400000000001, + "end": 2018.56, + "text": " illuminated to a side of you which is just so like warm and maternal and lovely and calm and" + }, + { + "start": 2018.56, + "end": 2028.24, + "text": " hippie so thank you it seems like there's such a yin and yang to to what you represent now she's good thank you" + }, + { + "start": 2034.0, + 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She became a celebrity in 19th century America." + }, + { + "start": 1178.08, + "end": 1186.3999999999999, + "text": " So much so that there was a phrase Mrs. Hale says, meaning that she was like the arbiter of" + }, + { + "start": 1186.3999999999999, + "end": 1192.6399999999999, + "text": " behavior and housekeeping and education and culinary issues." + }, + { + "start": 1193.6000000000001, + "end": 1202.24, + "text": " I almost like I dare say this, but it's given me like Oprah vibes like Oprah in the 90s." + }, + { + "start": 1202.24, + "end": 1204.16, + "text": " Yes, very, very similar." + }, + { + "start": 1207.5200000000002, + "end": 1213.92, + "text": " She really connected with people and she had a fabulous sense of what was important and what" + }, + { + "start": 1213.92, + "end": 1218.5600000000002, + "text": " wasn't important. 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And this is where Sarah Joseph Ahale comes back in our story." + }, + { + "start": 2042.0, + "end": 2047.28, + "text": " So finally, in 1863, she wrote to Lincoln." + }, + { + "start": 2047.28, + "end": 2053.2, + "text": " Sir, permit me as editor of the ladies book to request a few minutes of your precious time." + }, + { + "start": 2053.76, + "end": 2060.64, + "text": " Just five days after reading Hale's letter, a Lincoln agreed and issued a proclamation." + }, + { + "start": 2061.2, + "end": 2064.96, + "text": " Making thanksgiving a national holiday." + }, + { + "start": 2065.12, + "end": 2074.7200000000003, + "text": " I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States." + }, + { + "start": 2074.7200000000003, + "end": 2080.2400000000002, + "text": " And also those who are at sea and those who are subjurling in formlands to set apart and observe" + }, + { + "start": 2080.2400000000002, + "end": 2084.16, + "text": " the last Thursday of November. Next, that's a day of thanksgiving." + }, + { + "start": 2086.08, + "end": 2087.04, + "text": " Abraham Lincoln." + }, + { + "start": 2087.92, + "end": 2094.16, + "text": " He asked Americans to come together with one heart and one voice." + }, + { + "start": 2094.88, + "end": 2104.24, + "text": " And he was again talking about northerners and southerners stopping the war and moving toward peace" + }, + { + "start": 2104.24, + "end": 2110.88, + "text": " and reunification. Thanksgiving would be celebrated in local hospitals where soldiers were" + }, + { + "start": 2110.88, + "end": 2117.52, + "text": " recovering from their wounds. They would be served turkey, goose, ham, chicken pie, cranberry sauce," + }, + { + "start": 2118.2400000000002, + "end": 2126.08, + "text": " and sweet potatoes. It energized people in the north. It was the message, come on, we just have" + }, + { + "start": 2126.08, + "end": 2133.44, + "text": " to keep at it. We're going to win this war. 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While allowed responses heard floating through the air from" + }, + { + "start": 2274.2400000000002, + "end": 2280.5600000000004, + "text": " the 10,000 Indian children and orphans who are led to mourn the honorable acts of a few civilized" + }, + { + "start": 2280.64, + "end": 2291.44, + "text": " myth. William A. Piss slips his eyes up from his speech. More than a thousand auditorium seats" + }, + { + "start": 2291.44, + "end": 2298.32, + "text": " rise in a circle around him. A Piss stares into the audience. A sea of white northeners stares" + }, + { + "start": 2298.32, + "end": 2308.64, + "text": " back. It's 1836, 25 years before the start of the Civil War. More than two centuries after the" + }, + { + "start": 2308.64, + "end": 2314.96, + "text": " Wampanoag leader Usameekwin and the pilgrims in Plymouth shared a meal and signed a peace treaty." + }, + { + "start": 2315.7599999999998, + "end": 2321.68, + "text": " And William A. 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The epicenter" + }, + { + "start": 2354.96, + "end": 2363.36, + "text": " for criticism of the United States' violent approach to subjugating Native people is New England." + }, + { + "start": 2364.0, + "end": 2370.7200000000003, + "text": " This is historian David Silverman. If you want a critique of the evils of the United States" + }, + { + "start": 2370.7200000000003, + "end": 2377.6800000000003, + "text": " in the 19th century, it is almost always going to come out of Boston. In the 19th century," + }, + { + "start": 2377.6800000000003, + "end": 2384.56, + "text": " the criticism of US Indian affairs coming out of New England is very, very sharp. As part of that" + }, + { + "start": 2384.64, + "end": 2394.32, + "text": " positioning, New Englanders style their region as free of the national sins of violent Indian affairs" + }, + { + "start": 2394.32, + "end": 2402.32, + "text": " and slavery, neither of which is true. As early as 1769, New Englanders began celebrating what they" + }, + { + "start": 2402.32, + "end": 2409.92, + "text": " called Four Fathers Day on December 22nd, the anniversary of the day the pilgrims made landfall" + }, + { + "start": 2410.0, + "end": 2415.76, + "text": " at Plymouth Rock. They were honoring what New Englanders were building up as a foundational moment" + }, + { + "start": 2415.76, + "end": 2423.44, + "text": " in the American story. 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That story wasn't part of American lore yet." + }, + { + "start": 2470.48, + "end": 2477.6, + "text": " When does the element of this sort of friendship and handshaking between the native people" + }, + { + "start": 2477.6, + "end": 2480.8799999999997, + "text": " and the European sellers emerge as the story of Thanksgiving?" + }, + { + "start": 2481.52, + "end": 2487.7599999999998, + "text": " In the 1840s, a minister in New England publishes one of the two primary sources" + }, + { + "start": 2488.4, + "end": 2493.1200000000003, + "text": " that documents that feast between the Wampanogs and the Plymouth colonists." + }, + { + "start": 2493.84, + "end": 2502.1600000000003, + "text": " To that primary source account, he adds a footnote. The footnote read, this was the first Thanksgiving." + }, + { + "start": 2502.1600000000003, + "end": 2508.6400000000003, + "text": " Wow. 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To have Europeans sitting at a table" + }, + { + "start": 2675.36, + "end": 2683.28, + "text": " and Native people sitting on the ground is designed to accentuate that the English are civilized" + }, + { + "start": 2683.28, + "end": 2691.36, + "text": " and that the natives are savage. And that's a basic binary that has shaped white Americans'" + }, + { + "start": 2691.36, + "end": 2699.44, + "text": " views of themselves and of indigenous people really for 400 years. By the early 1900s," + }, + { + "start": 2699.44, + "end": 2704.6400000000003, + "text": " acting out that fantasy had become part of the curriculum at many schools." + }, + { + "start": 2705.36, + "end": 2710.7200000000003, + "text": " There were black and white photos all over from the early 20th century. You know, in the years," + }, + { + "start": 2710.72, + "end": 2716.16, + "text": " you'll see the kids in planes feathered head dresses and these pilgrim costumes which have these" + }, + { + "start": 2716.16, + "end": 2723.68, + "text": " obscenely large buckles on every conceivable article of clothing. It's a white wash of the" + }, + { + "start": 2723.68, + "end": 2726.3999999999996, + "text": " bloodiness of the ruthlessness of colonialism." + }, + { + "start": 2727.2000000000003, + "end": 2740.7200000000003, + "text": " Around the time where this myth that we've been talking about so far has started to take hold" + }, + { + "start": 2740.7200000000003, + "end": 2747.28, + "text": " about Thanksgiving, what were the lives of actual descendants of those people from the 1600s," + }, + { + "start": 2747.28, + "end": 2750.32, + "text": " the Wampanox people? 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Stories about their history with white" + }, + { + "start": 2818.72, + "end": 2825.2799999999997, + "text": " settlers and also about things that had actually happened to them. Adventures and misadventures," + }, + { + "start": 2825.84, + "end": 2835.1200000000003, + "text": " funny childhood memories. Unbelievable shiplocked in ice, using your crazy gay head navigation skills" + }, + { + "start": 2835.1200000000003, + "end": 2840.8, + "text": " to walk across the ice because you remember a community in this direction carrying the captains," + }, + { + "start": 2840.8, + "end": 2847.44, + "text": " wife who have to come on the voyage for some odd reason. You know, that's just like, I think the" + }, + { + "start": 2847.44, + "end": 2855.84, + "text": " underpinning was, here we are, these survivors, strong senses of humor, full of hope," + }, + { + "start": 2856.56, + "end": 2861.84, + "text": " also holding on to these stories of, hey, you know what, everybody jokes about us, but we've got" + }, + { + "start": 2861.84, + "end": 2869.68, + "text": " some serious skills. That's why we're here today. It wasn't about, get a lot of this turkey," + }, + { + "start": 2869.68, + "end": 2872.2400000000002, + "text": " you know, it just, turkey wasn't new for us." + }, + { + "start": 2872.72, + "end": 2879.7599999999998, + "text": " cranberry, cranberry, new, I don't know what to say. New England wasn't new. I mean, we kind of like," + }, + { + "start": 2879.7599999999998, + "end": 2883.3599999999997, + "text": " yeah, I mean, we're kind of from here. 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They are designed to cultivate unity." + }, + { + "start": 2941.1200000000003, + "end": 2946.7200000000003, + "text": " There will never be unity around complex historical subjects. They're too complex." + }, + { + "start": 2947.36, + "end": 2954.1600000000003, + "text": " Whether it is the inaccurate, rosy color view of the first Thanksgiving in 1621 or using the day" + }, + { + "start": 2954.1600000000003, + "end": 2962.1600000000003, + "text": " as a vessel for national unity, what we are thankful for is a choice, a choice with consequences." + }, + { + "start": 2962.48, + "end": 2969.12, + "text": " These national holidays, they remind us of what it means to be an American number one." + }, + { + "start": 2969.92, + "end": 2979.3599999999997, + "text": " And then they also give us a chance to celebrate our nation. I should say there are critics" + }, + { + "start": 2979.3599999999997, + "end": 2986.64, + "text": " of Thanksgiving people who won't celebrate it because they wrongly think that it is" + }, + { + "start": 2986.72, + "end": 2994.0, + "text": " celebrating the destruction of native culture. I can't disagree with that more strongly." + }, + { + "start": 2994.0, + "end": 3000.7999999999997, + "text": " I think it is a time of celebration of people of different cultures coming together." + }, + { + "start": 3002.0, + "end": 3008.96, + "text": " I think it's true that most adults don't give pilgrims and Indians much of a thought." + }, + { + "start": 3010.08, + "end": 3016.48, + "text": " But that's part of the point. The point is that we're indoctrinated with this idea as children" + }, + { + "start": 3016.64, + "end": 3022.96, + "text": " and then we're never asked to revisit it as we become more mature and capable of complex thought." + }, + { + "start": 3023.68, + "end": 3029.92, + "text": " I would prefer to see Thanksgiving continue without invoking pilgrims and Indians at all." + }, + { + "start": 3030.56, + "end": 3041.7599999999998, + "text": " I don't trust any ritual to capture complexities of any sort. Never mind violent complexities that" + }, + { + "start": 3041.84, + "end": 3048.8, + "text": " strike at the heart of the desire to have the United States be a beacon of light in the world." + }, + { + "start": 3048.8, + "end": 3057.28, + "text": " That is asking too much." + }, + { + "start": 3065.5200000000004, + "end": 3070.88, + "text": " As for Sarah Josepha Hale, she had her mind made up that Thanksgiving could bring the U.S." + }, + { + "start": 3071.84, + "end": 3077.6, + "text": " and she lived long enough to see it take hold. Hale spent the rest of her life making sure" + }, + { + "start": 3077.6, + "end": 3086.32, + "text": " Thanksgiving would outlive her. And before she died in April 1879, she had one last word to say about" + }, + { + "start": 3086.32, + "end": 3092.2400000000002, + "text": " Thanksgiving and her own legacy. In the magazine she dedicated much of her life to." + }, + { + "start": 3093.52, + "end": 3100.0, + "text": " This idea was very near to my heart. For I believe that this celebration would be a bond of union" + }, + { + "start": 3100.0, + "end": 3113.84, + "text": " throughout our country as well as a source of happiness in the homes of the people." + }, + { + "start": 3123.92, + "end": 3127.68, + "text": " That's it for this week's show. 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"text": " Like we said, it's going to cost you." + }, + { + "start": 2647.1200000000003, + "end": 2650.56, + "text": " And I don't mean that in like a threatening type of way." + }, + { + "start": 2650.56, + "end": 2653.1200000000003, + "text": " Like the money that you pay for it is going to be up there." + }, + { + "start": 2653.12, + "end": 2658.24, + "text": " And the iPad Pro can run starting from $1,000." + }, + { + "start": 2658.24, + "end": 2662.48, + "text": " And if you get like the highest specs and all the accessories and stuff, it can get you" + }, + { + "start": 2662.48, + "end": 2666.72, + "text": " up to $3,000 with all the accessories and stuff." + }, + { + "start": 2666.72, + "end": 2668.44, + "text": " That's a couple months mortgage." + }, + { + "start": 2668.44, + "end": 2670.92, + "text": " Yeah, you're ahead of fun with that." + }, + { + "start": 2670.92, + "end": 2671.92, + "text": " Oh man." + }, + { + "start": 2671.92, + "end": 2672.92, + "text": " I'm spec-" 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"start": 30.9, + "end": 34.0, + "text": " I'm Eli and as always I'm joined by Rian." + }, + { + "start": 34.0, + "end": 35.3, + "text": " Welcome Rian." + }, + { + "start": 35.3, + "end": 36.3, + "text": " What have we got today?" + }, + { + "start": 36.3, + "end": 40.5, + "text": " We have got an episode of the Radio 3 Documentary Podcast Strand." + }, + { + "start": 40.5, + "end": 44.5, + "text": " If you want to subscribe you're going to be searching for Radio 3 Documentary." + }, + { + "start": 44.5, + "end": 47.5, + "text": " So the episode I've chosen is Radio Control." + }, + { + "start": 47.5, + "end": 54.9, + "text": " It is a brilliant documentary, so it takes you to the world of broadcasting in Germany" + }, + { + "start": 54.9, + "end": 58.5, + "text": " during the Second World War and just after." + }, + { + "start": 58.5, + "end": 62.199999999999996, + "text": " So you get to hear so many different sounds that were unique to this time" + }, + { + "start": 62.199999999999996, + "end": 68.5, + "text": " and that were pioneered by the engineers that were working out of these various radio stations in Germany." + }, + { + "start": 68.5, + "end": 70.5, + "text": " What do you mean sounds that were unique to this time?" + }, + { + "start": 70.5, + "end": 75.5, + "text": " Well they spend a lot of time explaining to you the difference between" + }, + { + "start": 75.5, + "end": 80.8, + "text": " older traditional German classical music and modern electronic music" + }, + { + "start": 80.89999999999999, + "end": 85.39999999999999, + "text": " and how a lot of that music had its beginnings in the experiments that happened" + }, + { + "start": 85.39999999999999, + "end": 87.39999999999999, + "text": " with things like magnetic tape." + }, + { + "start": 87.39999999999999, + "end": 89.1, + "text": " It's brilliant and..." + }, + { + "start": 89.1, + "end": 90.3, + "text": " And do we hear some of these sounds?" + }, + { + "start": 90.3, + "end": 91.6, + "text": " Are you hear all the sounds?" + }, + { + "start": 91.6, + "end": 93.39999999999999, + "text": " You hear everything. It's amazing." + }, + { + "start": 93.39999999999999, + "end": 98.0, + "text": " I had no idea about this particular world and it's opened it up for me." + }, + { + "start": 98.0, + "end": 100.9, + "text": " So it just immerse yourself in it, honestly. It's brilliant." + }, + { + "start": 100.9, + "end": 102.9, + "text": " Let's give a listen." + }, + { + "start": 102.9, + "end": 108.6, + "text": " Hello BBC, this is Thomas Cadet reporting from Supreme Headquarters." + }, + { + "start": 108.6, + "end": 110.89999999999999, + "text": " Yes, I saw it." + }, + { + "start": 110.89999999999999, + "end": 114.5, + "text": " In the small hours of this morning, May the 7th, 1945," + }, + { + "start": 114.5, + "end": 118.1, + "text": " I saw the formal acknowledgement by Germanist present leaders," + }, + { + "start": 118.1, + "end": 123.5, + "text": " military leaders of their countries complete and utter defeat by land in the air and at sea." + }, + { + "start": 126.69999999999999, + "end": 130.7, + "text": " In 1945, at the end of the Second World War," + }, + { + "start": 130.7, + "end": 136.29999999999998, + "text": " Germany was a country that was geographically truncated, politically divided," + }, + { + "start": 136.3, + "end": 139.0, + 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"start": 2438.48, + "end": 2439.48, + "text": " Hey, good morning." + }, + { + "start": 2439.48, + "end": 2440.48, + "text": " Thank you for taking my car." + }, + { + "start": 2440.48, + "end": 2443.48, + "text": " I got a question about private concerns." + }, + { + "start": 2443.48, + "end": 2448.92, + "text": " I was going through the settings on my Android phone and I found out that they've taken" + }, + { + "start": 2448.92, + "end": 2457.36, + "text": " pictures without my access, my second access, my phone, my birthday, and they can monitor" + }, + { + "start": 2457.36, + "end": 2458.36, + "text": " to me very easily." + }, + { + "start": 2458.36, + "end": 2465.2, + "text": " They take you to a block, a generic block, block everything." + }, + { + "start": 2465.2, + "end": 2469.96, + "text": " You've got to go through each specific app and feature block everything." + }, + { + "start": 2469.96, + "end": 2470.96, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 2470.96, + "end": 2472.72, + "text": " That's a great question." + }, + { + "start": 2472.72, + "end": 2474.64, + "text": " And I've seen that happen." + }, + { + "start": 2474.64, + "end": 2477.3199999999997, + "text": " Now the screenshots and everything else kind of concerns me." + }, + { + "start": 2477.3199999999997, + "end": 2480.4399999999996, + "text": " The screenshots and everything that kind of concerns me." + }, + { + "start": 2480.4399999999996, + "end": 2484.2, + "text": " I'm not sure what your day to day is, but I'm thinking that you might want to be careful" + }, + { + "start": 2484.2, + "end": 2486.3199999999997, + "text": " that your phone has not been rooted." + }, + { + "start": 2486.3199999999997, + "end": 2488.9199999999996, + "text": " But rooted means that there's a possibility." + }, + { + "start": 2488.9199999999996, + "end": 2493.6, + "text": " I'm not saying that this happened brother, but that screenshot thing makes me think that" + }, + { + "start": 2493.6, + "end": 2498.08, + 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We're your hosts. I'm Mark as an I'm Andrew and this episode is a bit of a guest interview." + }, + { + "start": 14.0, + "end": 25.0, + "text": " A bit. It's the whole interview. It's pretty exciting. We were able to get Hugo Barra to join us in the studio in the flesh. If you haven't heard the name or if you don't know if you've heard the name," + }, + { + "start": 25.0, + "end": 39.0, + "text": " you might remember Hugo from work at Google or Xiaomi or most recently. This is why we had him on. He had this huge super in depth blog post about vision pro and like the state of VR and AR." + }, + { + "start": 39.0, + "end": 51.0, + "text": " And obviously he has experience from Oculus and a bunch of history and those companies, but there were a lot of things in those posts that I'd never read before like unique thoughts about VR and AR," + }, + { + "start": 51.0, + "end": 80.0, + "text": " which in a world where feels like everyone said everything about this stuff. It was it was really interesting to see so I wanted to dig in on some of his hot takes. Yeah, if you don't know the name, you know probably 10 products that he's worked on. No, like he's been in this space for so long and has a great of ton of great insights and is really, really knowledgeable just everything tech. Yeah, so it was really fun to have an X like a true expert in the industry come on and elaborate on some of his takes. So I think we should just jump right into it. Let's roll it." + }, + { + "start": 80.0, + "end": 109.0, + "text": " Welcome Hugo Barra to waveform. Thank you guys. Thank you for having me. Really good to have you. We we've talked a little bit in the past about this, but we've seen you on stage presenting with with Google with Android stuff. We've seen the Xiaomi stuff and you've had a long history with VR. And we've talked a lot about Appalvision Pro on this on." + }, + { + "start": 109.0, + "end": 125.0, + "text": " This on this podcast, but I feel like a lot of your thoughts are things that we hadn't even considered and a lot of takes from your blog post are angles about the history and the future of VR in general that we somehow haven't gotten to yet. And I would love to talk about them with you." + }, + { + "start": 125.0, + "end": 144.0, + "text": " I'm excited to be here ready to do it. Okay, amazing. Well, I feel like the first thing I want to jump into is like vision pro as it exists today, like it's a pretty good product. You've owned one, you've used one. We've had our review unit, our review came out. What is your like 30 seconds summer you give to people who ask like, Oh, you've you vision pro, right? 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I'm just saying, Tim, you could make it happen tomorrow if you wanted to." + }, + { + "start": 3542.0, + "end": 3548.0, + "text": " No, I also think it's also part of it is Apple could have gone two different directions with like attracting people to this VR idea." + }, + { + "start": 3548.0, + "end": 3556.0, + "text": " One of them was super, super high end amazing tech. The other, which is a little bit less Apple like, is super, super accessible available, cheaper." + }, + { + "start": 3556.0, + "end": 3560.0, + "text": " And I think they typically go with this before they go with that." + }, + { + "start": 3560.0, + "end": 3565.0, + "text": " So ideally, drum up excitement. People get to experience this, which that's what they're doing." + }, + { + "start": 3565.0, + "end": 3568.0, + "text": " You can go to an Apple store today and experience the fun thing." + }, + { + "start": 3568.0, + "end": 3576.0, + "text": " But someday when there is a Apple Vision Pro SE, whatever, that's going to be another exciting moment for," + }, + { + "start": 3576.0, + "end": 3580.0, + "text": " okay, the developers have gotten the thing to the form factor." + }, + { + "start": 3580.0, + "end": 3582.0, + "text": " Now it'll start to be available for the masses." + }, + { + "start": 3582.0, + "end": 3585.0, + "text": " But that's TBD. We'll have to see." + }, + { + "start": 3585.0, + "end": 3597.0, + "text": " Yeah. Yeah. 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That's where we end it. So thank you for. Thank you for your time. And of course for all the insight. Well, we'd love to have you back. Obviously we talk about stuff like this all the time. Not just the current tech, but the history and the context of it. So this is super fun. And hopefully we get to do it again sometime. It's a dream come true to be here. Thank you guys. Great work. Appreciate it. So that's about it. That was that was really fun. Thanks again to Hugo for coming to the studio." + }, + { + "start": 4085.0, + "end": 4115.0, + "text": " And for sharing the time, the expertise. So it's fun having conversations with people who are very knowledgeable about this stuff. And I feel like this is still very early. Like as much as we've talked about VR for the past 10 years. Like this is rapidly developing. We didn't even touch spatial. What are they called spatial personas in this conversation and like all the weird stuff that's been happening with hardware. 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The briefing room from Radio 4." + }, + { + "start": 75.36, + "end": 81.12, + "text": " We cannot bring about the kind of society I want to see unless we tackle one of the biggest barriers" + }, + { + "start": 81.12, + "end": 88.24, + "text": " to social mobility we face today, the National Housing Crisis. Crisis. Talk about housing" + }, + { + "start": 88.24, + "end": 94.96, + "text": " in Britain today and everyone uses the same word. Why? In much of the country housing is so" + }, + { + "start": 94.96, + "end": 100.96, + "text": " unaffordable that millions of people who would reasonably expect to buy their own home are unable to" + }, + { + "start": 100.96, + "end": 108.16, + "text": " do so. Others are struggling even to find somewhere to rent. 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So perhaps a symbolic piece of sort of politically" + }, + { + "start": 767.52, + "end": 772.24, + "text": " low hanging fruit appearing as though they're making it easier for younger keywests to buy houses" + }, + { + "start": 772.24, + "end": 776.88, + "text": " by cooling down the market, by keeping out those foreign buyers, why not actually end up having" + }, + { + "start": 776.88, + "end": 779.28, + "text": " this greater impact on the market as the government had hoped." + }, + { + "start": 779.92, + "end": 783.68, + "text": " Colin Peacock" + }, + { + "start": 784.3199999999999, + "end": 789.76, + "text": " So are restrictions and interventions like those in New Zealand any part of the answer to our" + }, + { + "start": 789.76, + "end": 794.88, + "text": " housing problems? To talk about this and other questions about housing, I'm now joined in the" + }, + { + "start": 794.88, + "end": 799.4399999999999, + "text": " briefing room by three experts, Christine Whitehead, who's professor of housing at the London" + }, + { + "start": 799.4399999999999, + "end": 805.1999999999999, + "text": " School of Economics, Polly Neat, Chief Executive at the Housing Charity Shelter, and Andrew Wittaker" + }, + { + "start": 805.2800000000001, + "end": 810.48, + "text": " of the Home Builders Federation, whose members build 80% of new homes in England and Wales." + }, + { + "start": 811.12, + "end": 816.08, + "text": " Christine Whitehead, you were listening to that report from Colin Peacock. I think you know" + }, + { + "start": 816.08, + "end": 819.5200000000001, + "text": " something about the situation in New Zealand. What did you make of what they've done?" + }, + { + "start": 820.1600000000001, + "end": 827.0400000000001, + "text": " I think he's right that this is really a political decision. The proportion of people actually" + }, + { + "start": 827.0400000000001, + "end": 833.6, + "text": " buying is not that large. It does have some impact on supply. It does make, mean, you build a few" + }, + { + "start": 833.6800000000001, + "end": 839.52, + "text": " more houses, but it's not going to really help the young people in New Zealand getting to the" + }, + { + "start": 839.52, + "end": 844.48, + "text": " housing market. Polly Neat, do you agree with that? We've had some initiatives in Britain like" + }, + { + "start": 844.48, + "end": 851.12, + "text": " the second, trying to stop second home purchases in parts of Cornwall and so on. Do you think" + }, + { + "start": 851.12, + "end": 856.16, + "text": " placing restrictions on what kind of people can buy in and the circumstances they can would have" + }, + { + "start": 856.16, + "end": 862.4, + "text": " any significant effect on housing? Well, I don't really think measures that are about tinkering with" + }, + { + "start": 862.4, + "end": 868.72, + "text": " demand are going to sort the problem that we've got, which is one of supply. So unless we build" + }, + { + "start": 869.4399999999999, + "end": 876.88, + "text": " vastly more homes and particularly social housing, actually, is what is needed, not more luxury" + }, + { + "start": 876.88, + "end": 880.9599999999999, + "text": " homes for people to buy. I don't think it will make the difference. And I think as everyone's" + }, + { + "start": 880.9599999999999, + "end": 887.4399999999999, + "text": " already said, it could be a smart political move. The only thing it makes me think about, I guess," + }, + { + "start": 887.5200000000001, + "end": 893.6, + "text": " is the level of political salience of this issue in New Zealand, which is clearly very high." + }, + { + "start": 893.6, + "end": 898.32, + "text": " And it's going that way here. And I really hope it continues to, because what we really need is" + }, + { + "start": 898.32, + "end": 902.8800000000001, + "text": " politicians concerning themselves with solving the housing crisis. Well, that's a very important" + }, + { + "start": 902.8800000000001, + "end": 908.8000000000001, + "text": " point about salience. And it's a very important point about supply. So everybody agrees, the main" + }, + { + "start": 908.8000000000001, + "end": 914.72, + "text": " problem is that we don't build enough homes. The government target is 300,000 new homes a year," + }, + { + "start": 914.72, + "end": 920.32, + "text": " and we're not hitting that. Andrew, from your perspective and from your expertise, why do we" + }, + { + "start": 920.32, + "end": 925.84, + "text": " not build enough houses? Well, let's get off on the right foot. I think we are starting to move" + }, + { + "start": 925.84, + "end": 933.6, + "text": " in the right direction. Housing output has grown to 217,000 additional dwellings last year," + }, + { + "start": 933.6, + "end": 942.24, + "text": " and the industry has increased output by 74% over the last four years. If we need to build more" + }, + { + "start": 942.24, + "end": 949.36, + "text": " houses to meet more housing demand, then we need to plan for more housing, and we need to make" + }, + { + "start": 949.36, + "end": 956.08, + "text": " sure that the industry and anyone else who needs to deliver housing can deliver that housing." + }, + { + "start": 956.08, + "end": 961.6, + "text": " One of the points that Polly Neet made was a significant proportion of this essentially has" + }, + { + "start": 961.6, + "end": 968.32, + "text": " to be social housing. Do you agree with that perception? I think it's fair to look at the statistics," + }, + { + "start": 968.32, + "end": 975.5200000000001, + "text": " to look at the needs of individual people and say, what tenure of housing do you need?" + }, + { + "start": 976.0, + "end": 982.8000000000001, + "text": " But it's a bit of a red herring because fundamentally, if we need 100 houses of whatever tenure," + }, + { + "start": 982.8000000000001, + "end": 989.2800000000001, + "text": " and we only build 90, 10 people are going to miss out, regardless of what tenure they want." + }, + { + "start": 989.2800000000001, + "end": 995.7600000000001, + "text": " If we want more social housing, then let's fund more social housing. If we want to encourage people" + }, + { + "start": 995.76, + "end": 1000.24, + "text": " into home ownership, let's give them more products that allow them to enter home ownership." + }, + { + "start": 1000.24, + "end": 1007.28, + "text": " I understand that point, but I think the issue is, if we seriously want to build 300,000 buildings" + }, + { + "start": 1007.28, + "end": 1013.04, + "text": " a year, the buildings that are needed are social homes. That's the point. So where we have a" + }, + { + "start": 1013.04, + "end": 1018.56, + "text": " shortfall and where we don't have enough supply to meet demand is on the affordable end of the market," + }, + { + "start": 1018.56, + "end": 1025.2, + "text": " and specifically in social housing. And the system isn't going to, the market system we have," + }, + { + "start": 1025.2, + "end": 1031.28, + "text": " isn't going to magically deliver more social housing, unless we do something about particularly" + }, + { + "start": 1031.28, + "end": 1036.8, + "text": " the cost of land, which is what is driving developers because they spend so much for land," + }, + { + "start": 1036.8, + "end": 1042.72, + "text": " they then have to build luxury homes in order to recoup that money and make profit, because that's" + }, + { + "start": 1042.72, + "end": 1046.8, + "text": " what they're in business to do, absolutely fair enough. And what that then means is that the" + }, + { + "start": 1046.8, + "end": 1050.72, + "text": " affordable housing and the social housing just gets cut out every single time." + }, + { + "start": 1051.1200000000001, + "end": 1055.44, + "text": " At Christine Whitehead, when I was a boy, social housing meant housing for rent." + }, + { + "start": 1056.4, + "end": 1060.48, + "text": " These days when we talk about social housing, we often seem to be talking about essentially" + }, + { + "start": 1060.48, + "end": 1065.44, + "text": " housing that's bought from the people who make it, but at the lower end of the range." + }, + { + "start": 1066.16, + "end": 1070.0, + "text": " Well, we do have to be careful about what we do mean by social housing. 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But the people who are really suffering at the moment, the people who are in" + }, + { + "start": 1108.96, + "end": 1116.3999999999999, + "text": " private rented housing, or not able to form a household at all. And these people are paying" + }, + { + "start": 1116.3999999999999, + "end": 1124.24, + "text": " very high rents, and they are not able to afford the ancestors of life. Now, difficulty about" + }, + { + "start": 1124.24, + "end": 1131.84, + "text": " social housing is the person who gets in is able to do that mostly, but the person who doesn't get" + }, + { + "start": 1132.32, + "end": 1138.8799999999999, + "text": " in has no help other than welfare and welfare means that they get nothing to do their work with" + }, + { + "start": 1138.8799999999999, + "end": 1143.52, + "text": " to the time. Polly, does that mean that our concentration in when we talk about the housing crisis" + }, + { + "start": 1143.52, + "end": 1150.8, + "text": " on younger homeowners is mistaken? I don't think younger homeowners aren't important," + }, + { + "start": 1150.8, + "end": 1154.9599999999998, + "text": " but that's not where the housing crisis lies. The housing crisis lies. Where the politics tends to lie?" + }, + { + "start": 1155.6, + "end": 1161.1999999999998, + "text": " It can be, although actually the politics is shifting, I think, almost as we speak. It's absolutely" + }, + { + "start": 1161.2, + "end": 1166.56, + "text": " right that people in private renting are absolutely at the sharp end. But I don't want to sound like a" + }, + { + "start": 1166.56, + "end": 1170.88, + "text": " broken record, but the reason for that is because there isn't enough social housing, which is where they" + }, + { + "start": 1170.88, + "end": 1175.92, + "text": " don't think that either. Because we're never going to build the sort of social housing, which will" + }, + { + "start": 1175.92, + "end": 1181.68, + "text": " deal with that whole range of people in the private rented sector who are really doing" + }, + { + "start": 1181.68, + "end": 1186.56, + "text": " extremely badly out of it. Social housing, even if you built a hundred thousand a year for a while," + }, + { + "start": 1186.56, + "end": 1191.52, + "text": " will not carry out anything like the level for the public. Well, it's not an either or, is it?" + }, + { + "start": 1191.52, + "end": 1196.0, + "text": " No, we have to. Of course. We have to. And there aren't enough rights for people who are renting" + }, + { + "start": 1196.0, + "end": 1200.24, + "text": " in the private sector. Tenancies aren't long enough, and unfortunately the government is looking at" + }, + { + "start": 1200.24, + "end": 1204.3999999999999, + "text": " this at the moment. It's consulting on three attendancies at the moment, which would be a really good" + }, + { + "start": 1204.3999999999999, + "end": 1209.44, + "text": " step forward. Of course. And the single biggest cause of homelessness, actually. I mean, we're seeing" + }, + { + "start": 1209.44, + "end": 1214.24, + "text": " individuals and families coming into our frontline services around the country every single day," + }, + { + "start": 1214.24, + "end": 1218.56, + "text": " who are homeless because they've been evicted from a private tendency. That's the biggest cause" + }, + { + "start": 1218.56, + "end": 1223.52, + "text": " of homelessness. And yes, of course, they need protection against that eviction and housing" + }, + { + "start": 1223.52, + "end": 1228.48, + "text": " benefit needs to be of a level that they can afford to buy food and pay their rent. But more social" + }, + { + "start": 1228.48, + "end": 1233.52, + "text": " housing is going to have a big impact on that problem. Now, I want to come back to that in a moment," + }, + { + "start": 1233.52, + "end": 1238.4, + "text": " also. And also, if you like, what was raised in the New Zealand package, really, which is the sort of," + }, + { + "start": 1239.2, + "end": 1243.68, + "text": " what would you call it? A kind of anglophone reliance upon home ownership, that kind of," + }, + { + "start": 1243.68, + "end": 1248.5600000000002, + "text": " kind of concept. And then the idea of your house as being essentially an investment rather than" + }, + { + "start": 1248.5600000000002, + "end": 1254.0, + "text": " the service. But in the first instance, Andrew, talking about land and how scarcity of land and" + }, + { + "start": 1254.0, + "end": 1259.44, + "text": " land use acts as a restriction upon the capacity to build housing. Do you recognise that?" + }, + { + "start": 1259.44, + "end": 1264.64, + "text": " Oh, absolutely. And that's fundamentally driven by the planning system and by local planning" + }, + { + "start": 1264.64, + "end": 1272.16, + "text": " authorities. And quite frankly, their failure to allocate enough land to be developed for housing" + }, + { + "start": 1272.16, + "end": 1278.88, + "text": " over the last 20 or 30 years since we had a plan led system. By my memory, governments have been" + }, + { + "start": 1278.88, + "end": 1283.76, + "text": " worrying about that problem for a couple of decades now. Why haven't we tackled that now?" + }, + { + "start": 1283.76, + "end": 1290.5600000000002, + "text": " We haven't tackled it because we've left it to local people to make local decisions. And whilst" + }, + { + "start": 1290.5600000000002, + "end": 1296.48, + "text": " in a democratic society, that sounds like a good idea. Those local people are not going to vote for" + }, + { + "start": 1296.48, + "end": 1302.08, + "text": " a lot of the things that we actually need. You'll never see a neighbourhood plan allocate a site" + }, + { + "start": 1302.08, + "end": 1307.68, + "text": " for an abattoir or a sewage treatment works. And people have said, well, what we don't want in our" + }, + { + "start": 1307.68, + "end": 1313.76, + "text": " neighbourhood plan or in our neighbourhood is new housing. I think that's changing. I think people" + }, + { + "start": 1313.76, + "end": 1319.6, + "text": " are starting to see that it's their children that are suffering in the housing crisis. They can't" + }, + { + "start": 1319.6, + "end": 1324.88, + "text": " afford to house themselves. And they don't see why. And they are starting to do something about it." + }, + { + "start": 1324.88, + "end": 1332.8000000000002, + "text": " Christine, I think that there's far too much emphasis on new builders such. Yes, we don't have" + }, + { + "start": 1332.8000000000002, + "end": 1339.5200000000002, + "text": " enough land. Yes, we need to build more. But even if we build the 300,000 a year, which we're not" + }, + { + "start": 1339.5200000000002, + "end": 1345.92, + "text": " going to, by the way, not in my next few years, that's going to be less than 1% of a total stock." + }, + { + "start": 1345.92, + "end": 1352.88, + "text": " What we need to be doing as well and probably more importantly is to be allocating the total stock" + }, + { + "start": 1352.96, + "end": 1359.92, + "text": " better to be using the existing housing in a more effective way. And we have a system incentivising" + }, + { + "start": 1359.92, + "end": 1365.7600000000002, + "text": " people not to move. And we're running into a situation with massive underoccupation in" + }, + { + "start": 1365.7600000000002, + "end": 1370.5600000000002, + "text": " the unoccupied sector. And people just sitting in houses which they're not very happy with," + }, + { + "start": 1370.5600000000002, + "end": 1375.8400000000001, + "text": " unable or unprepared to move. Let's say there's a country in which they do it better, in which you" + }, + { + "start": 1375.8400000000001, + "end": 1380.4, + "text": " have an allocation of existing housing stock better. What are they doing differently to what we're" + }, + { + "start": 1380.96, + "end": 1385.76, + "text": " doing? Well, one of the things they're doing is that they've got better taxation systems." + }, + { + "start": 1386.3200000000002, + "end": 1392.88, + "text": " We have a system by which I live in a large house which I moved into a long while ago and where" + }, + { + "start": 1392.88, + "end": 1401.68, + "text": " my council tax is only \u00a3100 a year more than it was when I moved in 30 years ago. So the people who" + }, + { + "start": 1401.68, + "end": 1409.52, + "text": " are consuming the housing are really not paying their way in the neighbourhood in the community." + }, + { + "start": 1409.52, + "end": 1416.4, + "text": " This is a real problem. This is caused by people getting older, living longer and yet we do very" + }, + { + "start": 1416.4, + "end": 1423.12, + "text": " little in policy terms to encourage local authorities to plan properly for specialist products," + }, + { + "start": 1423.12, + "end": 1428.96, + "text": " for older people for example, to find sites for those kind of products in locations where" + }, + { + "start": 1428.96, + "end": 1433.12, + "text": " older people want to live which tend to be different to where younger people want to live." + }, + { + "start": 1433.6799999999998, + "end": 1440.4799999999998, + "text": " In my way. Well, in terms of access to facilities, younger people want access to paraphrase" + }, + { + "start": 1440.4799999999998, + "end": 1448.7199999999998, + "text": " nightclubs and vibrant places and older people want access to Dr. Surgery's hospitals," + }, + { + "start": 1448.7199999999998, + "end": 1454.56, + "text": " open space, those kind of things. Chris, did you don't want access to nightclubs, apparently?" + }, + { + "start": 1454.56, + "end": 1460.9599999999998, + "text": " I wouldn't mind a bit of access to nightclubs. More importantly, I do think that it is scary" + }, + { + "start": 1460.96, + "end": 1468.32, + "text": " watching how divided it is. I mean, you go into a town at 11 o'clock in the morning and everybody" + }, + { + "start": 1468.32, + "end": 1475.76, + "text": " is my age and it really is shaking how much I think we need community mixing rather than" + }, + { + "start": 1475.76, + "end": 1483.3600000000001, + "text": " separation in that way. That, Pauli, one of the reasons for this I imagine is because we regard our" + }, + { + "start": 1483.3600000000001, + "end": 1490.08, + "text": " houses not just as places that we live but places that are racking up significant capital gains for" + }, + { + "start": 1490.08, + "end": 1496.3999999999999, + "text": " us which we might eventually want to turn into money. You can't blame people for that in one" + }, + { + "start": 1496.3999999999999, + "end": 1502.1599999999999, + "text": " sense because in recent times people have seen the value of their homes going up and up and they" + }, + { + "start": 1502.1599999999999, + "end": 1507.28, + "text": " might actually have suffered financially in other ways. Penchains for a start are not as good as" + }, + { + "start": 1507.28, + "end": 1513.1999999999998, + "text": " they used to be. So it is people do see their home as their security for the future but I think" + }, + { + "start": 1513.1999999999998, + "end": 1519.04, + "text": " we're not kind of having a reality check about younger people coming through for whom that is not" + }, + { + "start": 1519.04, + "end": 1525.84, + "text": " a realistic aspiration certainly at the moment and more importantly the people who simply cannot" + }, + { + "start": 1525.84, + "end": 1532.0, + "text": " participate in the housing market at all. So you know we've got 1.2 million people on council waiting" + }, + { + "start": 1532.0, + "end": 1538.72, + "text": " lists. We've got 300,000 people homeless in this country and there's absolutely nothing for them." + }, + { + "start": 1538.72, + "end": 1543.84, + "text": " So every part of the market, the market system if you like is failing to deliver." + }, + { + "start": 1543.84, + "end": 1548.24, + "text": " We do seem to have a bit of a cultural obsession that we with owner occupation here in Britain." + }, + { + "start": 1548.8, + "end": 1554.24, + "text": " In other countries I think particularly of Germany there's a much higher level of rented accommodation" + }, + { + "start": 1554.24, + "end": 1560.48, + "text": " isn't there? Christine. The German rental system is very very different from ours. If you have to put" + }, + { + "start": 1560.48, + "end": 1566.16, + "text": " in your own bathroom you tend to want to stay there for quite a long while and that is quite" + }, + { + "start": 1566.16, + "end": 1573.6, + "text": " normally the case in Germany. You have to apply for your housing and you might fill in 70 or 80" + }, + { + "start": 1573.6, + "end": 1581.1999999999998, + "text": " forms each of which takes three hours to do in order to get your rental housing. So we did a study" + }, + { + "start": 1581.1999999999998, + "end": 1588.9599999999998, + "text": " of owner occupation across the world in terms of industrialized countries. Germany, Japan, all sorts" + }, + { + "start": 1588.9599999999998, + "end": 1597.84, + "text": " of places. At age 45 everybody who was of that sort of stable family type were in owner occupation." + }, + { + "start": 1597.84, + "end": 1603.36, + "text": " 80% plus in Germany just as much as in Britain. The difference was that they got in later and they" + }, + { + "start": 1603.36, + "end": 1609.28, + "text": " didn't want to get in earlier rather than very specifically but they never wanted to be" + }, + { + "start": 1609.28, + "end": 1616.0, + "text": " homeless. They do. I think there is another issue as well which is that the rental system as you" + }, + { + "start": 1616.0, + "end": 1621.76, + "text": " rightly said is very different here. It's not a system that supports people to view their rented" + }, + { + "start": 1621.76, + "end": 1626.56, + "text": " home as their long term home and that is a problem and that is something that we could do something" + }, + { + "start": 1626.56, + "end": 1632.8, + "text": " about by changing the laws and the rents. It's a relatively circular argument that we have constantly" + }, + { + "start": 1632.8, + "end": 1638.96, + "text": " in that we want people to aspire to own their own home and then when lots of people do own their own" + }, + { + "start": 1638.96, + "end": 1643.36, + "text": " home we say that's really bad for people who can't afford to own their own home and then we try" + }, + { + "start": 1643.36, + "end": 1648.1599999999999, + "text": " and encourage more rental properties and then we say that's not really great because people don't" + }, + { + "start": 1648.1599999999999, + "end": 1652.24, + "text": " want to live in rental properties for the rest of their life. They aspire to home ownership." + }, + { + "start": 1652.24, + "end": 1657.52, + "text": " We can't make up our mind. I don't think the fact that a lot of people own their own home" + }, + { + "start": 1657.52, + "end": 1662.24, + "text": " is what causes the problems for the people who can't afford to participate in the property market." + }, + { + "start": 1662.24, + "end": 1666.48, + "text": " What causes the problems for them is there isn't enough housing being built that they can afford." + }, + { + "start": 1666.48, + "end": 1672.16, + "text": " I think what this conversation shows is that housing crisis is not one crisis. It is a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 1672.16, + "end": 1679.2, + "text": " different crises. It is undoubtedly the case that our particular form of arrangement" + }, + { + "start": 1679.76, + "end": 1685.52, + "text": " are extremely bad for people who want a longer term tendency and I'm very pleased that the" + }, + { + "start": 1685.52, + "end": 1690.08, + "text": " government is thinking around it. 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Until then, goodbye." + }, + { + "start": 1731.6, + "end": 1736.8, + "text": " So yes, that was about the housing crisis and very good it was too, I think." + }, + { + "start": 1736.8, + "end": 1740.8, + "text": " That definitely goes in the bucket marked I feel cleverer." + }, + { + "start": 1740.8, + "end": 1746.8, + "text": " Yeah, yeah. I mean, you've just kind of, you've got it now. It's the briefing room. So the next time" + }, + { + "start": 1746.8, + "end": 1751.28, + "text": " you read an article in the newspaper that says house prices up, house prices down, more" + }, + { + "start": 1751.28, + "end": 1757.9199999999998, + "text": " going to rate the man, a social housing bill blocked in whatever the house sits in, then you kind" + }, + { + "start": 1757.9199999999998, + "end": 1763.28, + "text": " of know what's going on. You know how to make judgments about what you read. I'd love this podcast" + }, + { + "start": 1763.28, + "end": 1768.72, + "text": " for that reason. 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It's from Radio 4 and into" + }, + { + "start": 63.28, + "end": 68.8, + "text": " it we step and down we go. It's got some sound effects in it and they come out of nowhere and I'm" + }, + { + "start": 68.8, + "end": 75.36, + "text": " just like, whoa. Do you want to tell the story about the email that I sent you, Rian, after I heard" + }, + { + "start": 75.36, + "end": 80.56, + "text": " the first episode? I was going to leave that out but I will do it with pleasure. So the premise of" + }, + { + "start": 80.56, + "end": 85.92, + "text": " the premise of this podcast which you'll get straight away is they are pretending that they have made" + }, + { + "start": 85.92, + "end": 92.88, + "text": " a podcast and it is drawing in, it sounds like an ad so Eli sent me an email. So there's" + }, + { + "start": 92.88, + "end": 100.16, + "text": " some mistake on this, Rian, have you left an ad on the beginning? 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And that's not what we have difficult." + }, + { + "start": 638.4, + "end": 644.24, + "text": " All schools have physical children. But Charles Ward was more than that. There was" + }, + { + "start": 644.64, + "end": 653.04, + "text": " a darkness to him. What do you mean by darkness? Well, he was anti-authority, certainly." + }, + { + "start": 653.04, + "end": 657.44, + "text": " But again, we always have a few pupils like that. Often they come from difficult backgrounds," + }, + { + "start": 657.44, + "end": 663.6800000000001, + "text": " though. And I don't think that could be said of Charles. He didn't mix well." + }, + { + "start": 663.6800000000001, + "end": 670.16, + "text": " Was he bullied? Oh, no, I should say not. If anything, the other children were afraid of him." + }, + { + "start": 670.16, + "end": 678.0, + "text": " So he was violent. No, not violent. I understand this is a little frustrating." + }, + { + "start": 678.0, + "end": 683.12, + "text": " The police had the same issue when I talked to them. The truth is, it was not something you could" + }, + { + "start": 683.12, + "end": 689.1999999999999, + "text": " put a finger on. It was just that there was something about him that prompted" + }, + { + "start": 690.7199999999999, + "end": 697.52, + "text": " just quiet. Maybe, you could say, something that was kind of off the other children's" + }, + { + "start": 697.52, + "end": 701.84, + "text": " same defense that his teachers do. And you talked to Mr. Mrs. Ward about this." + }, + { + "start": 701.84, + "end": 706.56, + "text": " I did, yes, on a number of occasions. She said that sometimes when you bring parents in," + }, + { + "start": 706.56, + "end": 710.48, + "text": " they tell you that they don't recognize your description of their child. The kids not like" + }, + { + "start": 710.48, + "end": 714.64, + "text": " this at home and so on. And sometimes she said that really is the case. And other times," + }, + { + "start": 714.64, + "end": 718.8, + "text": " you know, they're just being defensive, which is understandable, I guess. No one wants to accept" + }, + { + "start": 718.8, + "end": 726.4, + "text": " that their kid is difficult. But in the case of Mr. and Mrs. Ward. Well, the father, I just think" + }, + { + "start": 726.4, + "end": 730.4, + "text": " he wasn't around very much. I thought he had a close relationship with Charles. And certainly," + }, + { + "start": 730.4, + "end": 734.24, + "text": " there was a sense that he felt he had better things to do than be hauled into the school principal." + }, + { + "start": 734.9599999999999, + "end": 741.92, + "text": " But the mother, I think Mrs. Ward connected with what I was saying. I think she was scared." + }, + { + "start": 742.72, + "end": 751.1999999999999, + "text": " Of her son? I think so. Again, not physically. But I shouldn't say this," + }, + { + "start": 751.2, + "end": 758.5600000000001, + "text": " but I really don't know how to explain it to you. We never had anything like the incidents" + }, + { + "start": 758.5600000000001, + "end": 763.84, + "text": " that happened in some other schools. Incident? With guns, I mean. School shootings." + }, + { + "start": 766.6400000000001, + "end": 771.84, + "text": " I think about how to articulate the one underlying reason why I call the words in. And I'm not saying," + }, + { + "start": 771.9200000000001, + "end": 783.0400000000001, + "text": " let me put it this way. If it was on TV a year or two later, the school shooting had occurred," + }, + { + "start": 783.0400000000001, + "end": 787.76, + "text": " and they had put up a picture of Charles Ward, I would not have been surprised." + }, + { + "start": 787.84, + "end": 804.8, + "text": " I'm standing on Prospect Street, which is in the College Hill area of Providence. College Hill" + }, + { + "start": 804.8, + "end": 810.48, + "text": " is a really nice neighborhood, one of the most affluent in the area. And at 100 Prospect Street," + }, + { + "start": 810.48, + "end": 816.24, + "text": " right where I'm standing, is what was, until a few years ago, the Ward House. It was built," + }, + { + "start": 816.24, + "end": 821.12, + "text": " I'm guessing around the turn of the century, and it's a big house. I mean, it's a mansion by" + }, + { + "start": 821.12, + "end": 828.0, + "text": " any standards. This was a family with money. 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At the way of the neighborhood, I'm very safe, excellent schools. But you" + }, + { + "start": 860.64, + "end": 866.56, + "text": " can't sell it. You cannot sell this property. And why do you think that is? Well, if I had to guess," + }, + { + "start": 866.56, + "end": 872.56, + "text": " I'd say it's the atmosphere. And he's right. It's a great house in a nice neighborhood," + }, + { + "start": 872.56, + "end": 878.7199999999999, + "text": " and houses like this are in high demand and providence. But this one just feels unwelcoming." + }, + { + "start": 878.7199999999999, + "end": 882.64, + "text": " I've had people who were terribly excited when they saw it from the outside," + }, + { + "start": 882.64, + "end": 887.1199999999999, + "text": " but then entered the property and turned around and walked right back out again." + }, + { + "start": 887.1199999999999, + "end": 892.9599999999999, + "text": " But nothing happened here that you know of. Nothing I'm aware. The Ward family were very" + }, + { + "start": 892.9599999999999, + "end": 898.7199999999999, + "text": " unfortunate, as you know. Sarah Ward was hit by a comba. The sun was locked up in an insane" + }, + { + "start": 899.6800000000001, + "end": 906.24, + "text": " in the psychiatric institution. And quiet. And before that, Howard Ward the father." + }, + { + "start": 907.2, + "end": 914.1600000000001, + "text": " Now, I don't understand the ins and outs of finance, but it seems he was very successful just" + }, + { + "start": 914.1600000000001, + "end": 919.2, + "text": " after his wife died. And then he seems to have made a number of bad investments. By the time he passed" + }, + { + "start": 919.2, + "end": 926.64, + "text": " away in 2013, there was almost no money left. And the house has been empty since 2016, when Charles" + }, + { + "start": 926.72, + "end": 931.4399999999999, + "text": " Ward was... That's correct. You might have I taken a look around? Oh, be my guest." + }, + { + "start": 936.08, + "end": 939.04, + "text": " So Vester told me that Charles's room was the second on the right of the stairs." + }, + { + "start": 939.6, + "end": 943.28, + "text": " And I wanted to take a look at it, even though I didn't really think it would yield any clues." + }, + { + "start": 943.52, + "end": 958.3199999999999, + "text": " Okay, this is quite weird. The room is empty. It's pretty big. There's not much light because" + }, + { + "start": 958.3199999999999, + "end": 964.16, + "text": " this side of the house is shaded by a big old tree. There's a fireplace, but no furniture." + }, + { + "start": 964.16, + "end": 970.64, + "text": " That's all been cleared out, I guess. Maybe sold. But there's a smell. Like someone recently" + }, + { + "start": 970.64, + "end": 974.3199999999999, + "text": " lit a fire in a grate, which it doesn't look like they have. I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 987.84, + "end": 995.04, + "text": " You okay? Yeah, the wind just must have caught the door and it made me jump. Sorry." + }, + { + "start": 995.8399999999999, + "end": 1002.56, + "text": " I don't know what made that door slam. Maybe it was the wind, but when I heard the noise and I turned" + }, + { + "start": 1002.56, + "end": 1010.48, + "text": " around, I could swear there was someone there. A man standing behind the door with his back to the wall," + }, + { + "start": 1010.48, + "end": 1012.56, + "text": " just staring at me." + }, + { + "start": 1012.7199999999999, + "end": 1025.9199999999998, + "text": " Wow, so you really think there wasn't any there? No, of course not. I mean, it seemed real in a moment." + }, + { + "start": 1025.9199999999998, + "end": 1030.0, + "text": " For context, you're hearing me and Kennedy in the cafe across the road from the mystery machine" + }, + { + "start": 1030.0, + "end": 1034.72, + "text": " studio. It was a trigger the light or a shadow cast by something going by. 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No, sure. So you know why I'm here." + }, + { + "start": 1093.36, + "end": 1099.28, + "text": " I do and I think this is going to be interesting. Oh. Yeah, I dug around in the archives, which is" + }, + { + "start": 1099.28, + "end": 1107.04, + "text": " something I have always wanted to say. But what I actually mean is I did a search on Ward Charles Dexter" + }, + { + "start": 1107.04, + "end": 1111.84, + "text": " on the library computer system. The first thing is more buffy, isn't it? Well, it's funny. You should" + }, + { + "start": 1111.84, + "end": 1117.6, + "text": " say that because the list of books I found was actually very buffy indeed. Well, kind of evil will," + }, + { + "start": 1117.6, + "end": 1126.0, + "text": " really. Okay. Here we go. And before anyone gets the wrong idea, I should point out that we have" + }, + { + "start": 1126.0, + "end": 1132.08, + "text": " a lending arrangement with the municipal library here in Providence. And they in turn can order books" + }, + { + "start": 1132.08, + "end": 1137.04, + "text": " in. I wouldn't want anyone to think we actually have these books on the shelves of the school library." + }, + { + "start": 1137.52, + "end": 1143.6799999999998, + "text": " Turbo, philosopher, the key of wisdom, the complete mystical records of Dr. John D," + }, + { + "start": 1144.64, + "end": 1151.44, + "text": " the book of thought. Inokian magic. Wow, this list goes on and on, doesn't it? You can't fault the" + }, + { + "start": 1151.44, + "end": 1156.5600000000002, + "text": " boy's appetite for reading. He was allowed to check these books out of the school library at age 1415." + }, + { + "start": 1156.5600000000002, + "end": 1163.3600000000001, + "text": " Okay. I think it's important to note that I was not the librarian at the time. And with respect to" + }, + { + "start": 1163.3600000000001, + "end": 1170.4, + "text": " my predecessor, I would have taken a very different view on the matter. What do you think happened" + }, + { + "start": 1171.1200000000001, + "end": 1182.16, + "text": " about the disappearance? I have no idea. Do you? I took an interest after you called and I saw this list." + }, + { + "start": 1183.52, + "end": 1190.96, + "text": " I looked up Charles Ward. I confess. I didn't know the story before. It's pretty strange. It seems" + }, + { + "start": 1190.96, + "end": 1197.3600000000001, + "text": " to be. You know something that did jump out at me? And I don't mean to derail what you're doing or" + }, + { + "start": 1197.36, + "end": 1207.12, + "text": " no derail away. Okay. So Charles Ward left the school in 2007. The records refer to it as a mutual" + }, + { + "start": 1207.12, + "end": 1211.6799999999998, + "text": " arrangement, which basically means the school called his parents and said, don't send your kid here" + }, + { + "start": 1211.6799999999998, + "end": 1218.56, + "text": " anymore. Yeah, I got that much. So then I wanted to see where he went after that, but he didn't" + }, + { + "start": 1218.56, + "end": 1224.6399999999999, + "text": " transfer to a different school. No, he had a private tutor. Yeah. Do you know who that was?" + }, + { + "start": 1225.6000000000001, + "end": 1235.8400000000001, + "text": " Yes. I do. Barbara Sayers. I'm going to see her tomorrow morning. Okay. What? You do me a favor." + }, + { + "start": 1236.8000000000002, + "end": 1243.68, + "text": " You give me a call when you've spoken to her. Sure. Why? Just indulge me." + }, + { + "start": 1244.48, + "end": 1249.1200000000001, + "text": " So while Kennedy had been out in the States, digging around in the Charles Dexter Ward story," + }, + { + "start": 1249.1200000000001, + "end": 1252.48, + "text": " I've been here trying to figure out what Dr. Willett have been doing in London." + }, + { + "start": 1253.44, + "end": 1258.56, + "text": " I managed to put together a biography of Willett, which we'll get to soon, but I couldn't figure out" + }, + { + "start": 1258.56, + "end": 1263.44, + "text": " what brought him here. Had his experiences with Charles Ward sent him off the rails," + }, + { + "start": 1264.4, + "end": 1269.68, + "text": " or was his trip to London completely unrelated to Ward's disappearance? And then there's obviously" + }, + { + "start": 1269.68, + "end": 1274.8, + "text": " the murder of Lucy Horthall. 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You can write all the letters you want. There's no way anyone's letting some ex-colourmiss with" + }, + { + "start": 1307.76, + "end": 1315.12, + "text": " a podcast to a paranoid schizophrenic in maximum security. It's an interesting story though." + }, + { + "start": 1315.12, + "end": 1320.64, + "text": " No, we don't even know if it is a story yet. Oh, will it is a story? I advise you to tread a little" + }, + { + "start": 1320.64, + "end": 1325.76, + "text": " carefully there. Really? Why? Because of Lucy Horthall. The murder of it, Tim, what about it?" + }, + { + "start": 1325.76, + "end": 1331.04, + "text": " You don't have researchers or anything. We have an investigator. Yeah, I like her voice." + }, + { + "start": 1331.92, + "end": 1336.72, + "text": " She's been off-looking at the American angle. Well, I don't know anything about that, but" + }, + { + "start": 1337.76, + "end": 1342.0, + "text": " if you want the juice on Willett, look at Lucy Horthall. 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And it's certainly interesting." + }, + { + "start": 1461.28, + "end": 1464.88, + "text": " The Lucy Hawthorne was very well connected, but I can't see how it's relevant." + }, + { + "start": 1465.68, + "end": 1471.44, + "text": " Unless she wasn't randomly chosen as a victim. And that's one of many questions we're going to be" + }, + { + "start": 1471.44, + "end": 1477.2, + "text": " tackling moving forward. Did Dr. Willett deliberately target the granddaughter of a senior civil" + }, + { + "start": 1477.2, + "end": 1484.24, + "text": " servant? If so, why? 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You can't leave that" + }, + { + "start": 1526.8000000000002, + "end": 1531.1200000000001, + "text": " It's a deep, eldritch dive into the bubbly world of HP Lovecraft." + }, + { + "start": 1531.1200000000001, + "end": 1536.96, + "text": " Hey, you never come out again. 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Speak, speak." + }, + { + "start": 31.599999999999998, + "end": 34.4, + "text": " Hello and welcome to Podcasting House." + }, + { + "start": 34.4, + "end": 37.04, + "text": " And if this is the first time that you're joining us," + }, + { + "start": 37.04, + "end": 39.76, + "text": " then welcome aboard the Good Ship podcast." + }, + { + "start": 39.76, + "end": 41.12, + "text": " Oh, it's not a ship, is it?" + }, + { + "start": 41.12, + "end": 42.64, + "text": " Welcome inside." + }, + { + "start": 42.64, + "end": 45.2, + "text": " A wonderful home of podcasting here on BBC." + }, + { + "start": 45.2, + "end": 46.239999999999995, + "text": " It's a houseboat, maybe." + }, + { + "start": 46.239999999999995, + "end": 48.4, + "text": " Is it a houseboat? 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Yeah, oh the, the feelings when you get into the," + }, + { + "start": 975.16, + "end": 981.16, + "text": " the moment and it does every little bit, every sense of the evening comes back." + }, + { + "start": 981.5600000000001, + "end": 986.12, + "text": " At the height of the police investigation, 60 officers were assigned to this case." + }, + { + "start": 986.12, + "end": 991.48, + "text": " It went through a cold case review and now it's being reinvestigated right from the very beginning" + }, + { + "start": 991.48, + "end": 998.76, + "text": " that's a 13 year old case with 20 officers on it full time. Veronica Wilson describes having" + }, + { + "start": 998.76, + "end": 1004.52, + "text": " different teams going through their lives every detail and they haven't found a motive to" + }, + { + "start": 1004.52, + "end": 1010.1999999999999, + "text": " kill Alistair Wilson. Is he Mr. Sweeney clean or did he have a secret? What are the police" + }, + { + "start": 1010.1999999999999, + "end": 1018.1999999999999, + "text": " missed? Okay. Okay, so Sandy first of all can you talk me through? Here's another man I'd like" + }, + { + "start": 1018.1999999999999, + "end": 1023.0, + "text": " you to meet. He's Sandy Park. He's the former leader of Highland Council and was the" + }, + { + "start": 1023.0, + "end": 1027.8799999999999, + "text": " provost of an air at the time of the shooting. So he was a man who was interviewed a lot at the time" + }, + { + "start": 1028.5200000000002, + "end": 1034.0400000000002, + "text": " and generally he's a man who knows stuff. 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What we do have is a description of the man who shot him the police have gone" + }, + { + "start": 1165.72, + "end": 1174.12, + "text": " back to check the original description for me and sent me this male 35 to 40 white 5 to 6 to 5 to 10" + }, + { + "start": 1174.12, + "end": 1181.56, + "text": " no facial hair baseball cap navy or black with no marking scene dark blue thin or light blue" + }, + { + "start": 1182.52, + "end": 1186.04, + "text": " zip of the front and gathered at the waist dark blue jeans." + }, + { + "start": 1188.52, + "end": 1193.8799999999999, + "text": " The interview with Veronica Wilson tells you something about how the media works it was coordinated" + }, + { + "start": 1193.8799999999999, + "end": 1199.3999999999999, + "text": " by the police so at no point before I met her in the hotel room had I spoken to her directly." + }, + { + "start": 1199.96, + "end": 1205.72, + "text": " She walks into a room of cameras we sit down and chat a little but really within about 15" + }, + { + "start": 1205.72, + "end": 1211.32, + "text": " minutes we're talking about the most emotional experience of her life with both personal" + }, + { + "start": 1211.32, + "end": 1217.8799999999999, + "text": " and forensically detailed questions. 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So I mentioned the police" + }, + { + "start": 1252.8400000000001, + "end": 1257.96, + "text": " 20 of them back on this case so they must think they have a good chance of solving it." + }, + { + "start": 1258.52, + "end": 1265.16, + "text": " The man leading the investigation called Operation Soren is detective superintendent Gary Cunningham" + }, + { + "start": 1265.16, + "end": 1270.92, + "text": " you'll hear him quite a lot as we go through this podcast. I've met him a few times to talk through" + }, + { + "start": 1270.92, + "end": 1277.0, + "text": " whether I might get access to the inquiry 13 years on and no motive I wondered if they had" + }, + { + "start": 1277.0, + "end": 1282.3600000000001, + "text": " anything to lose they had to make the decision about what they could reveal to me with the crown" + }, + { + "start": 1282.3600000000001, + "end": 1287.24, + "text": " office and procurator fiscal service. I will hear what they decided they could reveal as you go" + }, + { + "start": 1287.24, + "end": 1294.8400000000001, + "text": " through the episodes for now here's his take on the inquiry as it stands. I would say we're still" + }, + { + "start": 1294.9199999999998, + "end": 1300.1999999999998, + "text": " absolutely fully committed to investigate every single aspect of this investigation. It's" + }, + { + "start": 1300.1999999999998, + "end": 1304.36, + "text": " really important that we review all the other work that's been done over all these years and we" + }, + { + "start": 1304.36, + "end": 1311.48, + "text": " identify new opportunities while moving forward. That means literally going over every interview that's" + }, + { + "start": 1311.48, + "end": 1317.8, + "text": " being done every potential lead in a bit of evidence that's been gathered over 13 years is that" + }, + { + "start": 1317.8, + "end": 1322.6799999999998, + "text": " right? I think that's absolutely right it's pointless missing one aspect which could actually" + }, + { + "start": 1322.76, + "end": 1327.24, + "text": " give us the answer. I mean realistically we do not know who's carried out the screen we've got a" + }, + { + "start": 1327.24, + "end": 1332.92, + "text": " focus on a number of lines of inquiry but unless we go over all that information right back to the" + }, + { + "start": 1332.92, + "end": 1337.8, + "text": " very start to see what was initially captured to every single statement then we're not doing a" + }, + { + "start": 1337.8, + "end": 1344.6000000000001, + "text": " job properly. We need to have a fully investigated inquiry from day one and tease out anything that" + }, + { + "start": 1344.6000000000001, + "end": 1350.76, + "text": " may have been missed over these years so it can move us towards a suspect. Do you have a motive yet?" + }, + { + "start": 1350.76, + "end": 1356.04, + "text": " We don't have a motive yet and that's where I think the public can really help us. 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If they had concerns in the past and they still have concerns I would" + }, + { + "start": 1388.44, + "end": 1393.96, + "text": " urge them to come forward to speak to me, to speak to our team so we can sit down, discuss the" + }, + { + "start": 1393.96, + "end": 1398.36, + "text": " issues and offer any support that they may need through Police Scotland. We have these support" + }, + { + "start": 1398.36, + "end": 1404.28, + "text": " mechanisms but we need to come forward so we can now progress investigation and identify the" + }, + { + "start": 1404.28, + "end": 1409.8799999999999, + "text": " individual responsible. So I was about to edit off the last bit of his last answer there." + }, + { + "start": 1410.44, + "end": 1415.8, + "text": " As you can imagine we've got hours of interviews so we can't broadcast everything but then it" + }, + { + "start": 1415.8, + "end": 1421.72, + "text": " occurred to me what he could be saying is that he's offering protection to a gang member whose" + }, + { + "start": 1421.72, + "end": 1426.44, + "text": " loyalties have prevented them from speaking in the past but now he's trying to offer them a" + }, + { + "start": 1426.44, + "end": 1433.48, + "text": " safe way out. Yet secrecy is the criminal code isn't it but maybe revenge, maybe that's the" + }, + { + "start": 1433.48, + "end": 1439.48, + "text": " card he's trying to play without actually laying it face up on the table. I need to ask Detective" + }, + { + "start": 1439.48, + "end": 1444.44, + "text": " Superintendent Gary Cunningham what he meant by this, I'll add it to my rather long list of" + }, + { + "start": 1444.44, + "end": 1451.64, + "text": " questions for him. One thing I do get from DS Cunningham is that he feels the impact of this crime." + }, + { + "start": 1452.52, + "end": 1457.96, + "text": " You might wonder why the police teams over the years haven't solved it by now, I think that's" + }, + { + "start": 1457.96, + "end": 1463.32, + "text": " what we're all wondering but I get a genuine feeling Gary Cunningham is personally committed to the" + }, + { + "start": 1463.32, + "end": 1468.28, + "text": " this one. I don't know maybe that's just his manner. Anyway I'm due to speak to him again this week" + }, + { + "start": 1469.1599999999999, + "end": 1475.3999999999999, + "text": " but crucially you heard him say he hasn't found the motive. In the quest to find the motive there's" + }, + { + "start": 1475.3999999999999, + "end": 1482.6, + "text": " one very strange but possibly vital clue in this crime. This is the best match, the best likeness" + }, + { + "start": 1482.6, + "end": 1489.24, + "text": " of EndNote that was handed to Alistair Wilson on the 28th of November 2004 shortly before he was" + }, + { + "start": 1490.2, + "end": 1494.1200000000001, + "text": " shot. A couple of interesting facts I want to share with you and hopefully the public can help with" + }, + { + "start": 1494.1200000000001, + "end": 1500.28, + "text": " is the fact that one the name Paul was on this envelope and secondly when he's gone upstairs" + }, + { + "start": 1500.28, + "end": 1507.72, + "text": " to his wife he's the envelope is open and there's nothing inside. That's episode two, the envelope." + }, + { + "start": 1508.68, + "end": 1513.56, + "text": " If you think you have information that can help the police you can call them directly or call" + }, + { + "start": 1513.6399999999999, + "end": 1519.24, + "text": " the crime stoppers charity anonymously. Now the way people get to hear about and find podcasts like" + }, + { + "start": 1519.24, + "end": 1524.6, + "text": " this one is if you share it, rate it, talk about it you know the kind of thing so please help get" + }, + { + "start": 1524.6, + "end": 1531.96, + "text": " the message out. Thanks very much. This podcast was produced by me Fiona Walker and Mona McAllan" + }, + { + "start": 1531.96, + "end": 1538.76, + "text": " and it was commissioned by Daniel Maxwell Rachel Coburn did the artwork the audio supervisor" + }, + { + "start": 1538.84, + "end": 1547.72, + "text": " was Malcolm Tory with thanks to Jennifer Tracy for her guidance. 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So I'm Rian and as always I've got Eli with the Hello Eli. Hello." + }, + { + "start": 37.76, + "end": 42.96, + "text": " What have you got? I've got well ladies and gentlemen this is The Receipts. This podcast started" + }, + { + "start": 42.96, + "end": 50.0, + "text": " outside the BBC as a passion project really. It's self-produced by the presenters themselves and it was" + }, + { + "start": 50.0, + "end": 55.68, + "text": " an instant hit. Three young British black women talking about life, love and work and being" + }, + { + "start": 56.32, + "end": 59.36, + "text": " now I mean I'm not you know. You're none of those things. I'm not." + }, + { + "start": 59.36, + "end": 65.28, + "text": " I'm not. Those things but they're so they're just so real and fun to listen to that I want to" + }, + { + "start": 65.28, + "end": 70.16, + "text": " eavesdrop on their conversation. It's just you know what I mean it's it's it's I don't know. I just" + }, + { + "start": 70.16, + "end": 76.0, + "text": " love it so the fact that it's come now to the BBC for a while is it just forms the goggles from" + }, + { + "start": 76.0, + "end": 81.28, + "text": " my heart really. So here it is The Receipts. It's your girl Tully T. Why not your girl yet? Because" + }, + { + "start": 81.52, + "end": 86.16, + "text": " you don't know me but it's not in T. Audrey formerly known as Garnas Finest and your mama" + }, + { + "start": 86.16, + "end": 87.44, + "text": " Sita Milena Sanchez." + }, + { + "start": 95.04, + "end": 100.8, + "text": " Hi guys welcome to our brand new show The Receipts on one extra BBC you know. Yeah. We are" + }, + { + "start": 100.8, + "end": 106.08, + "text": " fully on the BBC. Oh. Don't know how they let us in but we're here we're here to take over." + }, + { + "start": 106.08, + "end": 111.04, + "text": " We're bringing you a brand new episode over the next six weeks. We'll be joined by guests" + }, + { + "start": 111.04, + "end": 116.32000000000001, + "text": " we'll be talking a lot of things that if you listen to the podcast before so there's sex" + }, + { + "start": 116.32000000000001, + "end": 122.48, + "text": " there's sex and sex. No we're kidding it's gonna be more than that it's gonna be conversations with" + }, + { + "start": 122.48, + "end": 129.44, + "text": " guests and just us talking our usual shit but on the BBC. Take a nice look at it. We hope you" + }, + { + "start": 129.44, + "end": 138.64000000000001, + "text": " enjoy and stay tuned. All right okay girls so it's summer. It is indeed. Sun shining. It is" + }, + { + "start": 138.64, + "end": 144.0, + "text": " indeed. It is a bit tanned. It is indeed. It is longish. My hair. My hair wig has been put on" + }, + { + "start": 144.0, + "end": 148.95999999999998, + "text": " installed. What else happens in the summer? Men are looking nicer. They are because you know what" + }, + { + "start": 148.95999999999998, + "end": 153.51999999999998, + "text": " because everybody that's been banging out of gym instead of time to shine. It's their time to shine" + }, + { + "start": 153.51999999999998, + "end": 157.44, + "text": " but not me because I didn't do diddly. You know when they're like us some of our bodies are made in the" + }, + { + "start": 157.44, + "end": 163.2, + "text": " winter. The body is some what is going to take whatever body in whatever form. Whatever form" + }, + { + "start": 163.2, + "end": 168.0, + "text": " out. Foul MP3 F that I give it. But you know I always get so triggered when people tweet stuff" + }, + { + "start": 168.0, + "end": 172.88, + "text": " like that but it's only because I know that I haven't been doing anything. Do you know what I mean" + }, + { + "start": 172.88, + "end": 176.88, + "text": " so. I don't get triggered I think it's okay but anyway I feel like you look naturally nice" + }, + { + "start": 176.88, + "end": 183.76, + "text": " in the summer anyway. Absolutely. I'm going to be wearing hair square. Bear events there's so much to do." + }, + { + "start": 183.76, + "end": 189.12, + "text": " Day parties and holidays and things like that. You get horny eyes. Does the heat make you horny?" + }, + { + "start": 189.12, + "end": 193.28, + "text": " Absolutely. I'm the opposite you know. I'm gonna get very madoo. No no no I'm the opposite." + }, + { + "start": 193.92, + "end": 200.24, + "text": " I get I'm more sexually active in the winter because there's nothing else to do. Just stay at home and" + }, + { + "start": 200.24, + "end": 206.48, + "text": " bone. I mean you look no more than I do. It's true in the summer I'm always out and then like" + }, + { + "start": 206.48, + "end": 212.08, + "text": " because obviously this summer's been so amazing. I'm too hot like I don't know get off me like I don't" + }, + { + "start": 212.08, + "end": 215.52, + "text": " want to be all like hitch up and sweaty like I just want to be like. It doesn't make me horny but" + }, + { + "start": 215.52, + "end": 221.92000000000002, + "text": " it does make me like want to entertain me a little bit more. Yeah outside. Yeah like I'll first" + }, + { + "start": 221.92, + "end": 226.64, + "text": " go. I want like our first go dates. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I want one Switzerland." + }, + { + "start": 226.64, + "end": 230.56, + "text": " Kick n' edge. Not a picnic. Well when I said when I said I said our first go I mean go to a" + }, + { + "start": 230.56, + "end": 235.83999999999997, + "text": " queue. I mean the rest. Yeah. I'm talking about a queue. I'm talking about a cute bitch." + }, + { + "start": 235.83999999999997, + "end": 240.32, + "text": " I'm talking about a cute little restaurant somewhere that I can get a nice iced tea or a nice" + }, + { + "start": 240.32, + "end": 245.04, + "text": " Prosecco or a belini. What one's what it's up? What one splits up or have some brain issues" + }, + { + "start": 245.04, + "end": 249.67999999999998, + "text": " and have a little sun sun. That's my idea of our fresco. So in the list of like cuffing season" + }, + { + "start": 249.68, + "end": 254.56, + "text": " in summertime. For me I feel like summertime is the best time to be single. Absolutely. She says" + }, + { + "start": 254.56, + "end": 261.76, + "text": " that she's been single for five years. Oh seasons. Winter summer swing. That's why you can talk" + }, + { + "start": 261.76, + "end": 265.36, + "text": " on being single in the summer because you've been through it the whole season show." + }, + { + "start": 265.36, + "end": 270.16, + "text": " I'm just saying. Yeah. So I feel like being single in the summer is actually quite nice." + }, + { + "start": 270.16, + "end": 276.08, + "text": " The reason why it's nice is that like everybody is a bit more free out to summer loving a summer" + }, + { + "start": 276.08, + "end": 280.88, + "text": " hoeing. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Definitely. And also people always like because you know people" + }, + { + "start": 280.88, + "end": 287.59999999999997, + "text": " get dumped. When do they get dumped like eight months? Yeah. To be fair. No. In March you start" + }, + { + "start": 287.59999999999997, + "end": 293.2, + "text": " um planting the seeds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what is it? What is it?" + }, + { + "start": 293.2, + "end": 297.44, + "text": " I don't know. You've literally done nothing to keep up. I'm going to get ready for the summer." + }, + { + "start": 297.44, + "end": 303.12, + "text": " So come June July. The slate is clean and you can go and. So what's that? How does your summer" + }, + { + "start": 303.12, + "end": 306.96, + "text": " activities? How does that plan out? I don't even believe that you're you're a ho in the summer." + }, + { + "start": 306.96, + "end": 310.48, + "text": " It's not possible. What do you mean? It's just not possible. You can be a hoeing the winter but" + }, + { + "start": 310.48, + "end": 314.64, + "text": " you can't be a hoeing the summer. You know you're out because you meet more people in the summer." + }, + { + "start": 314.64, + "end": 318.64, + "text": " Meet a lot more people. Let's not call it that. Let's not do that. No but we claim in the world." + }, + { + "start": 319.28000000000003, + "end": 325.2, + "text": " I'm taking it as if the word ho is something bad. I am we claiming it. Ho is like it's not a bad word." + }, + { + "start": 325.2, + "end": 327.92, + "text": " It's just a word. Ho is home. It just means living in your best life. Home is home." + }, + { + "start": 327.92, + "end": 342.48, + "text": " It's not home. It's not home. No, hoesiness. Because in the summer you can have a bigger" + }, + { + "start": 342.48, + "end": 348.08000000000004, + "text": " hotel. Because my other winter. What's the hotel? Explain it to the people then. It's basically" + }, + { + "start": 348.08000000000004, + "end": 354.24, + "text": " like a hotel is just kind of like a kind of rotation of men that gives you different things." + }, + { + "start": 354.24, + "end": 361.20000000000005, + "text": " A rotation of the situation. So we can have a David. David is hard working. 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Ton days are type of guy yeah that when you offer to pay he" + }, + { + "start": 394.24, + "end": 399.04, + "text": " looks at you in this like your match. Yeah. Yeah. How dare you disrespect me. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 399.04, + "end": 405.28000000000003, + "text": " We creeped out of the year 2017. I've got my bonus B. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And then he's" + }, + { + "start": 405.28000000000003, + "end": 409.2, + "text": " the last guy we're thinking about Carlos. Can we do Carlos? Yeah. Do you do Carlos? Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 409.2, + "end": 415.6, + "text": " Carlos. Yeah. What do Carlos do? Where's the meet-up? No, he's a mechanic. He's a trap man." + }, + { + "start": 416.24, + "end": 423.68, + "text": " Clean up. Don't talk about cliches. I think I want Carlos to be like creative." + }, + { + "start": 424.48, + "end": 429.04, + "text": " Carlos is a creative painter. No, that's a death look. I've saved that for Bob because that's" + }, + { + "start": 429.04, + "end": 435.36, + "text": " a label. Yeah. So Bob was a label. Carlos is a creative. He works for an agency like say kind" + }, + { + "start": 435.36, + "end": 440.16, + "text": " of like he just does like cool. He's an account exec. Yeah. And then like sometimes she doesn't" + }, + { + "start": 440.16, + "end": 444.16, + "text": " you don't hear from like a week old so you know just like oh there's this new pop pop in Brixton" + }, + { + "start": 444.16, + "end": 448.32000000000005, + "text": " coming with me. Yes. That's the kind of man Carlos is. But Carlos doesn't pay for that." + }, + { + "start": 448.32000000000005, + "end": 454.40000000000003, + "text": " Carlos doesn't pay for that. Carlos is like oh 2018. Yeah. No. He splits the bill and stuff. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 454.40000000000003, + "end": 458.40000000000003, + "text": " I don't like that. I don't like that Carlos. And then after split in the bill he asked to keep" + }, + { + "start": 458.40000000000003, + "end": 462.88, + "text": " the receipts because it's freelance so he's trying to claim expenses. Right. That's he." + }, + { + "start": 462.88, + "end": 466.56, + "text": " Actually Carlos doesn't even split the bill. He'll be like you pay for what you had and I'll" + }, + { + "start": 466.56, + "end": 470.64000000000004, + "text": " pay for what I had. Yeah. That's split in the bill says. No, it's not because I could have eaten more." + }, + { + "start": 470.71999999999997, + "end": 475.76, + "text": " So he has bread and water. Exactly. I am never in my life been in a day and all the more than I" + }, + { + "start": 475.76, + "end": 482.8, + "text": " can afford it. That is a lie because I have. I'm looking at you. But you take two cars. You have" + }, + { + "start": 482.8, + "end": 486.0, + "text": " the credit card and then you have a bank card. Oh you have that. 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I'm afraid to I'm stupid. I'd be for" + }, + { + "start": 600.8000000000001, + "end": 605.5200000000001, + "text": " I'd be for as not like to be a lot of people. I'd be for you. But I just think like as a" + }, + { + "start": 605.52, + "end": 610.72, + "text": " married woman, can I really be going to I be for you? So I fun about my husband. I mean, yeah," + }, + { + "start": 610.72, + "end": 614.96, + "text": " she's not fun. I mean, I will definitely do it. But do you think people will judge me though?" + }, + { + "start": 614.96, + "end": 618.96, + "text": " Who cares about people? I don't know. And what are the rules for what you can go in holiday when you" + }, + { + "start": 619.76, + "end": 624.24, + "text": " and maybe she said this hoativities conversation. Yeah. Seeing issue I'm married women. No, I can" + }, + { + "start": 624.24, + "end": 628.0799999999999, + "text": " talk about my past life. Okay, cool. I'm talking about my past life. 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I was like so cute. So I" + }, + { + "start": 987.84, + "end": 992.32, + "text": " walked into the cover and I saw this man at the bar and I saw him and I was like oh my god he's" + }, + { + "start": 992.32, + "end": 998.32, + "text": " like my type on paper like exactly like what it is that I go for and then he was like there's a" + }, + { + "start": 998.32, + "end": 1002.0, + "text": " woman next to him that he was talking to and I was like oh damn that's his girlfriend or whatever" + }, + { + "start": 1002.0, + "end": 1005.76, + "text": " but I think that men do this thing where they make it obvious that they're not with someone" + }, + { + "start": 1005.76, + "end": 1008.72, + "text": " where men are dating. Yeah they do. Because I opened my male friends and they did it. It's like" + }, + { + "start": 1008.72, + "end": 1012.48, + "text": " kind of like step further back from it. 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That's what you did. Go. Do you like go. Do you like tea?" + }, + { + "start": 1074.32, + "end": 1077.36, + "text": " Go. Just want to be the same like British words." + }, + { + "start": 1077.36, + "end": 1078.36, + "text": " Do you like British words? Tea." + }, + { + "start": 1078.36, + "end": 1079.1599999999999, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1079.1599999999999, + "end": 1083.84, + "text": " So I'm just like you know what I'm the most. So anyways I went over to go like I was like" + }, + { + "start": 1083.84, + "end": 1086.24, + "text": " hi you are and he was like are you British?" + }, + { + "start": 1086.24, + "end": 1092.96, + "text": " He's like yeah. How did you tell? How can you tell? Is it my English accent? Did it" + }, + { + "start": 1092.96, + "end": 1096.24, + "text": " give it away? I don't think it's I don't think it's my English. British." + }, + { + "start": 1096.24, + "end": 1097.76, + "text": " British. British. 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Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1146.8, + "end": 1151.68, + "text": " So that was a good test for that. Yeah. Yeah. He's mobility. He's got some" + }, + { + "start": 1151.68, + "end": 1155.6000000000001, + "text": " stuff. Yeah. He was meant to see that he had to live in Jordan. That's attractive. And he also" + }, + { + "start": 1155.6000000000001, + "end": 1160.24, + "text": " lists. Yes. Anyway we say talking to about four o'clock in the morning my poor friend was like" + }, + { + "start": 1160.24, + "end": 1164.4, + "text": " we're going home. Yeah. She's a good friend. She's a good friend. She was a great friend. So" + }, + { + "start": 1164.4, + "end": 1168.24, + "text": " we went home whatever. So next day he messaged me and he was like oh wait yeah. Now I was like" + }, + { + "start": 1168.24, + "end": 1172.16, + "text": " oh I'm going home seeing like I'm just at my hotel packing up. He was like cool I'll be there" + }, + { + "start": 1172.16, + "end": 1176.48, + "text": " in half an hour. So I turned up at the hotel. I love that shit. When to go get a drink and then" + }, + { + "start": 1176.56, + "end": 1180.56, + "text": " like went for a walk around like the streets of New York. Did you hold hands? Did you?" + }, + { + "start": 1180.56, + "end": 1186.16, + "text": " Did you? Did you? Did you? Yeah. And then I was like I've got to get my fly. So I was" + }, + { + "start": 1186.16, + "end": 1192.0, + "text": " with the music. I've got to go. And he was like oh no. Thank God. And he was like you know what I just" + }, + { + "start": 1192.0, + "end": 1195.44, + "text": " want to spend some more time with him. And you know New York people have to say my." + }, + { + "start": 1195.44, + "end": 1204.0, + "text": " Oh my god. That's the favorite thing to say. Of course. So stupid to be. Surely. So he like" + }, + { + "start": 1204.0, + "end": 1207.68, + "text": " it was like I could call. So he took me to the airport. Oh. So he was like I could call with" + }, + { + "start": 1207.68, + "end": 1211.2, + "text": " I take it to the airport. So I got him a lift to the airport and he kept like missing the exit" + }, + { + "start": 1211.2, + "end": 1214.8, + "text": " to the airport and I was like I'm going to miss my fly. I was like you got me. Ma, I was like you" + }, + { + "start": 1214.8, + "end": 1220.4, + "text": " didn't want to get me to fly. I did. And he had money. Did you tell him about this? I did. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1220.4, + "end": 1227.28, + "text": " But I don't think I said I was going to say this story on this. I hopefully never listen." + }, + { + "start": 1227.28, + "end": 1230.48, + "text": " So he was like do you know when they're trying to tell you how much they love Britain. He was like" + }, + { + "start": 1230.48, + "end": 1235.6, + "text": " oh top gay. I was like okay. Top gay. Top gay. Top gay. Top only reference the British he had. I was like" + }, + { + "start": 1235.6, + "end": 1239.84, + "text": " oh okay. Cool. Really? What? Interesting actually. It was it was really cute. So that was my summer" + }, + { + "start": 1239.84, + "end": 1244.48, + "text": " right man. She still talks to him. I know it's too much. Last to keep in touch. I tell you that now." + }, + { + "start": 1244.48, + "end": 1251.52, + "text": " That's good. I'll say take that as a yes. But when getting to a center summer I say it'll probably" + }, + { + "start": 1251.52, + "end": 1255.84, + "text": " end by September. Do you think? Yeah. No you have to keep him on there. I've got to keep him there man." + }, + { + "start": 1255.84, + "end": 1263.1999999999998, + "text": " Keep him to your birth. Yeah. Absolutely. If it gets to a bridge. I want to go to the" + }, + { + "start": 1263.1999999999998, + "end": 1269.76, + "text": " pool again. So yeah that was my holiday way man. That's an actual story. I really wish I had" + }, + { + "start": 1269.76, + "end": 1275.36, + "text": " like a holiday way of months now because I would imagine that as you just explained it sounded so" + }, + { + "start": 1275.36, + "end": 1280.56, + "text": " beautiful like literally like a movie kind of thing. That's something like movie like. And excuse" + }, + { + "start": 1280.6399999999999, + "end": 1285.2, + "text": " you know that you have to go home to reality. Yeah. How is the person is that? Because you know why" + }, + { + "start": 1285.2, + "end": 1291.12, + "text": " do you know why holiday romance are a thing because I fall in love with bloody Jimmy that selling" + }, + { + "start": 1291.76, + "end": 1296.08, + "text": " bracelets and beach. Like I literally fall in love with them and I find everything good in them." + }, + { + "start": 1296.08, + "end": 1303.12, + "text": " It's a sun. It is a sun. It is a fit him indeed. But like the day. Yeah that's why I think like my" + }, + { + "start": 1303.12, + "end": 1308.3999999999999, + "text": " holiday romance has actually been a holiday. It's been like a UK romance. Why? Because it's a sun." + }, + { + "start": 1308.4, + "end": 1312.16, + "text": " A sunbabes because to me there's just nothing like a good old fashioned Londoner." + }, + { + "start": 1312.88, + "end": 1317.76, + "text": " Like I don't think I could be with someone that has an accent. Really? Yeah. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1318.5600000000002, + "end": 1323.2, + "text": " I only like him. I like American. It will just be too me. Yeah see me. I find myself attracted to" + }, + { + "start": 1323.2, + "end": 1328.0, + "text": " men with an American accent and I know damn well if they had a British accent I wouldn't even look" + }, + { + "start": 1328.0, + "end": 1333.0400000000002, + "text": " twice. The only American accent I like is the new accent. That's actually the only accent I care for." + }, + { + "start": 1333.04, + "end": 1338.72, + "text": " Like it sounds like Timberlands. Yeah exactly. Like when you're a prostate building." + }, + { + "start": 1339.44, + "end": 1342.96, + "text": " Like sounds like. Yeah I just yeah only New York." + }, + { + "start": 1342.96, + "end": 1347.2, + "text": " Jenny from the block. That's the only thing. Yeah that's the only thing. I don't know." + }, + { + "start": 1347.2, + "end": 1352.48, + "text": " I quite like the southern accent. Why are you alright? They sound really like well brought up." + }, + { + "start": 1352.48, + "end": 1356.6399999999999, + "text": " They've got great hospitality. I will definitely say that. How many of you minute?" + }, + { + "start": 1358.0, + "end": 1361.68, + "text": " Would you know about that hospitality? I like the Latin. I don't know anyone." + }, + { + "start": 1361.68, + "end": 1365.8400000000001, + "text": " But that's what they say in southern hospitality. You met the one from Vegas. I did. And they" + }, + { + "start": 1365.8400000000001, + "end": 1371.2, + "text": " had great hospitality. Yeah they were great great great hospitality. Well I like the ones from" + }, + { + "start": 1371.2, + "end": 1376.0, + "text": " the Bronx. You know the Latin ones that proper a little mafia months. Yeah. I like it." + }, + { + "start": 1376.0, + "end": 1380.3200000000002, + "text": " Did that the word? The little mafia months. The mafia months. Mafia months." + }, + { + "start": 1380.3200000000002, + "end": 1385.6000000000001, + "text": " Ah, like actual killers and stuff. Look at those." + }, + { + "start": 1386.3999999999999, + "end": 1392.08, + "text": " The like the chula. Under BBC." + }, + { + "start": 1392.08, + "end": 1397.04, + "text": " You can't say she likes killers. The chula. So I'm talking about the chula," + }, + { + "start": 1397.04, + "end": 1403.6, + "text": " mate. Oh, they're not the same as mafia. Mafia is not chula." + }, + { + "start": 1403.6, + "end": 1407.36, + "text": " They're not talking about that. Why are you so free? You're saying the word" + }, + { + "start": 1407.36, + "end": 1411.6799999999998, + "text": " mafia was well without anything whatsoever. I don't know about the chula." + }, + { + "start": 1412.64, + "end": 1416.64, + "text": " They have to whisper. The portal rake. Like the mafia I should know." + }, + { + "start": 1416.64, + "end": 1419.44, + "text": " Yeah. I don't know where. I don't know where." + }, + { + "start": 1419.44, + "end": 1422.64, + "text": " They've been out now. Apparently. He says she likes." + }, + { + "start": 1422.64, + "end": 1426.0800000000002, + "text": " Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it." + }, + { + "start": 1426.0800000000002, + "end": 1429.92, + "text": " Kisses my biggest friend. I'm not joking. I'm so scared of him." + }, + { + "start": 1431.3600000000001, + "end": 1434.48, + "text": " I didn't even have enough. Anyway, let me just move in on to free." + }, + { + "start": 1434.48, + "end": 1438.24, + "text": " Please stop talking about him. I'm so scared of him. I don't even know." + }, + { + "start": 1438.24, + "end": 1440.64, + "text": " I can't make it make sense. I'm scared of him." + }, + { + "start": 1440.64, + "end": 1442.16, + "text": " He is a really nice guy." + }, + { + "start": 1444.64, + "end": 1448.48, + "text": " Anyways, the Papi Jullos. I like the Papi Jullos from America." + }, + { + "start": 1448.48, + "end": 1450.88, + "text": " Do you know? That's the kind of guy that I'm just like, oh," + }, + { + "start": 1450.88, + "end": 1455.2, + "text": " Papi Jullos. So like, boards with loads of tattoos and like a bandana." + }, + { + "start": 1457.68, + "end": 1460.64, + "text": " All the stereotypes. And then literally an attire job." + }, + { + "start": 1460.64, + "end": 1464.72, + "text": " All the stereotypes. Oh my god." + }, + { + "start": 1465.52, + "end": 1469.76, + "text": " I'm so chubby. I'm legit going to do my eyebrows with like eyeliner." + }, + { + "start": 1469.76, + "end": 1472.48, + "text": " Oh, the stereotypes in the world. Wow." + }, + { + "start": 1472.48, + "end": 1474.24, + "text": " I know. I'm joking. It's just one of the movies, isn't it?" + }, + { + "start": 1474.24, + "end": 1476.32, + "text": " You know what I was talking about in school, though?" + }, + { + "start": 1476.32, + "end": 1478.32, + "text": " Where it was like, it was a time you kind of got to go out." + }, + { + "start": 1479.3600000000001, + "end": 1481.84, + "text": " Yeah, but you know what was so lit about that is that," + }, + { + "start": 1481.84, + "end": 1484.72, + "text": " and I don't know what it's like being a kid now, but I can't imagine it's the same." + }, + { + "start": 1484.72, + "end": 1489.3600000000001, + "text": " Because honestly, after troughs, so about 11.11.30, we'd go and my-" + }, + { + "start": 1489.3600000000001, + "end": 1491.6000000000001, + "text": " I literally wouldn't come home until 6.30. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1491.6, + "end": 1495.12, + "text": " We would just be out. And where I grew up, I grew up in an estate." + }, + { + "start": 1495.12, + "end": 1499.36, + "text": " And it was like, this was bad. I mean, this was when estates were literally communities." + }, + { + "start": 1499.36, + "end": 1503.04, + "text": " Like everybody looked out for everybody. All the mums knew each other." + }, + { + "start": 1503.6, + "end": 1509.28, + "text": " Everybody talks like everybody was close. So you could honestly quite literally run around all day," + }, + { + "start": 1509.28, + "end": 1512.24, + "text": " just like out with the neighbours and then just come home and have dinner, shower," + }, + { + "start": 1512.24, + "end": 1515.1999999999998, + "text": " and go to bed. And that was someone we didn't that continuously." + }, + { + "start": 1515.1999999999998, + "end": 1516.56, + "text": " I don't know if it's like that anymore." + }, + { + "start": 1516.56, + "end": 1520.7199999999998, + "text": " Do you remember traveling around the whole of London with one pound on your list of God?" + }, + { + "start": 1520.72, + "end": 1522.16, + "text": " It was nice to cut it. It was definitely-" + }, + { + "start": 1522.16, + "end": 1523.1200000000001, + "text": " No, it was seven." + }, + { + "start": 1523.1200000000001, + "end": 1523.84, + "text": " How much it was next?" + }, + { + "start": 1523.84, + "end": 1525.6000000000001, + "text": " It was 40p before for one single." + }, + { + "start": 1525.6000000000001, + "end": 1527.3600000000001, + "text": " 40p for a bus ride." + }, + { + "start": 1527.3600000000001, + "end": 1529.6000000000001, + "text": " And it was two pound for a day travel car." + }, + { + "start": 1529.6000000000001, + "end": 1530.64, + "text": " With train. One to six." + }, + { + "start": 1530.64, + "end": 1531.3600000000001, + "text": " Yeah, with train." + }, + { + "start": 1531.3600000000001, + "end": 1532.88, + "text": " With train and bus two pounds." + }, + { + "start": 1532.88, + "end": 1533.3600000000001, + "text": " That's smart." + }, + { + "start": 1533.3600000000001, + "end": 1534.24, + "text": " Oh my." + }, + { + "start": 1534.24, + "end": 1536.0, + "text": " And cinema used to be like two pound 50." + }, + { + "start": 1536.72, + "end": 1537.52, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1537.52, + "end": 1538.88, + "text": " Oh, yeah, not cinemas." + }, + { + "start": 1538.88, + "end": 1539.92, + "text": " Cinema now. That's not-" + }, + { + "start": 1539.92, + "end": 1540.8, + "text": " And we take you know-" + }, + { + "start": 1540.8, + "end": 1543.52, + "text": " And adult bus fare, one single bus ride was 70p." + }, + { + "start": 1543.52, + "end": 1544.48, + "text": " 70p." + }, + { + "start": 1544.48, + "end": 1545.92, + "text": " I don't- that's why I don't even like going cinema." + }, + { + "start": 1545.92, + "end": 1547.04, + "text": " Why are you going to pay all this money?" + }, + { + "start": 1547.04, + "end": 1547.52, + "text": " I just-" + }, + { + "start": 1547.52, + "end": 1549.3600000000001, + "text": " Cinema is luxury." + }, + { + "start": 1549.3600000000001, + "end": 1549.76, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1549.76, + "end": 1550.4, + "text": " Oh yeah, yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1550.4, + "end": 1552.24, + "text": " It's luxury now because you're looking at about-" + }, + { + "start": 1553.04, + "end": 1553.84, + "text": " Not as far as state though." + }, + { + 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+ "start": 1566.16, + "end": 1567.12, + "text": " Why is he not picking up?" + }, + { + "start": 1567.12, + "end": 1567.92, + "text": " Who are you dating?" + }, + { + "start": 1567.92, + "end": 1568.56, + "text": " And then-" + }, + { + "start": 1568.56, + "end": 1570.72, + "text": " Yeah, if he's doing everything and he picks you up," + }, + { + "start": 1570.72, + "end": 1572.96, + "text": " he's put 30 pounds in the car, right?" + }, + { + "start": 1572.96, + "end": 1573.92, + "text": " That's already 30 pounds." + }, + { + "start": 1573.92, + "end": 1575.44, + "text": " Then you get then how much it tickets each?" + }, + { + "start": 1576.16, + "end": 1577.12, + "text": " Like \u00a320." + }, + { + "start": 1577.12, + "end": 1578.32, + "text": " What are you all doing?" + }, + { + "start": 1578.3999999999999, + "end": 1579.36, + "text": " That's a ticket for cinema." + }, + { + "start": 1579.36, + "end": 1579.84, + "text": " I tried everything." + }, + { + "start": 1579.84, + 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"end": 1594.96, + "text": " Each bar is different." + }, + { + "start": 1594.96, + "end": 1596.72, + "text": " I have definitely spent about \u00a318." + }, + { + "start": 1596.72, + "end": 1597.52, + "text": " And then you get popcorn." + }, + { + "start": 1597.52, + "end": 1598.32, + "text": " And then you get popcorn." + }, + { + "start": 1598.32, + "end": 1600.96, + "text": " A popcorn alone is like \u00a317.50 for a large drink." + }, + { + "start": 1600.96, + "end": 1601.9199999999998, + "text": " And a large drink." + }, + { + "start": 1601.9199999999998, + "end": 1602.72, + "text": " And a large drink." + }, + { + "start": 1602.72, + "end": 1603.6, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1603.6, + "end": 1606.8, + "text": " And then a large drink is like a good \u00a35.65" + }, + { + "start": 1607.36, + "end": 1608.56, + "text": " for a large drink." + }, + { + "start": 1608.56, + "end": 1610.8, + "text": " If you want to splage and you want to get some minstrels," + }, + { + "start": 1610.8, + "end": 1612.56, + "text": " that's another \u00a35.50." + }, + { + "start": 1612.56, + "end": 1614.1599999999999, + "text": " That's another \u00a38.99." + }, + { + "start": 1614.1599999999999, + "end": 1616.0, + "text": " That's another \u00a38.99, bro." + }, + { + "start": 1616.0, + "end": 1616.8, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1616.8, + "end": 1617.84, + "text": " And then go for bid." + }, + { + "start": 1617.84, + "end": 1618.96, + "text": " You want some hog and does." + }, + { + "start": 1620.96, + "end": 1622.1599999999999, + "text": " Go for bid." + }, + { + "start": 1622.1599999999999, + "end": 1625.28, + "text": " You fancy something to cool your throat." + }, + { + "start": 1625.28, + "end": 1626.08, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1626.08, + "end": 1627.36, + "text": " That's another \u00a36.50." + }, + { + "start": 1628.24, + "end": 1631.52, + "text": " By the time you've left there, that's \u00a3100." + }, + { + "start": 1631.52, + "end": 1632.8, + "text": " This is why you have a vision." + }, + { + "start": 1632.8, + "end": 1634.08, + "text": " It was not \u00a3100." + }, + { + "start": 1634.08, + "end": 1634.56, + "text": " It is." + }, + { + "start": 1634.56, + "end": 1636.48, + "text": " That's why you have to go with a big bag." + }, + { + "start": 1637.76, + "end": 1639.28, + "text": " That's why you got to do that." + }, + { + "start": 1639.28, + "end": 1641.28, + "text": " You can come and play it around." + }, + { + "start": 1641.28, + "end": 1642.8, + "text": " So now you've bought that up." + }, + { + "start": 1642.8, + "end": 1644.96, + "text": " I know this is complete segue from somewhere." + }, + { + "start": 1644.96, + "end": 1646.08, + "text": " So this is just a question." + }, + { + "start": 1646.08, + "end": 1647.9199999999998, + "text": " If you went and a decedent cinematic," + }, + { + "start": 1647.9199999999998, + "end": 1649.12, + "text": " if a guy or whatever," + }, + { + "start": 1649.12, + "end": 1649.84, + "text": " and then you were like," + }, + { + "start": 1649.84, + "end": 1650.56, + "text": " buy some popcorn." + }, + { + "start": 1650.56, + "end": 1651.76, + "text": " I don't worry about it." + }, + { + "start": 1651.76, + "end": 1654.3999999999999, + "text": " I'll be back when you get to the decedent money that opens his bag." + }, + { + "start": 1656.3999999999999, + "end": 1658.3999999999999, + "text": " And there's some drinks and drinks in there." + }, + { + "start": 1660.3999999999999, + "end": 1661.2, + "text": " Apart of me," + }, + { + "start": 1661.2, + "end": 1661.9199999999998, + "text": " because I'm so free," + }, + { + "start": 1661.9199999999998, + "end": 1662.56, + "text": " or apart of me," + }, + { + "start": 1662.56, + "end": 1664.24, + "text": " you can so turn on and then the other part of me," + }, + { + "start": 1664.24, + "end": 1666.1599999999999, + "text": " because I'm also shallow," + }, + { + "start": 1666.16, + "end": 1667.2, + "text": " would also be disgusting." + }, + { + "start": 1667.2, + "end": 1668.5600000000002, + "text": " So I'd be feeling all these emotions." + }, + { + "start": 1668.5600000000002, + "end": 1670.8000000000002, + "text": " But it also depends how much I like that guy." + }, + { + "start": 1670.8000000000002, + "end": 1672.4, + "text": " Because if I'm really into him," + }, + { + "start": 1672.4, + "end": 1672.88, + "text": " I'll be like," + }, + { + "start": 1672.88, + "end": 1674.24, + "text": " do you know this is the cutest thing?" + }, + { + "start": 1674.24, + "end": 1675.44, + "text": " You're so still fortunate." + }, + { + "start": 1675.44, + "end": 1676.88, + "text": " That's not part of me." + }, + { + "start": 1676.88, + "end": 1677.8400000000001, + "text": " I'm not a nutty." + }, + { + "start": 1677.8400000000001, + "end": 1679.92, + "text": " I'm not here for that on the first day." + }, + { + "start": 1679.92, + "end": 1680.24, + "text": " No." + }, + { + "start": 1680.24, + "end": 1681.92, + "text": " Absolutely the hell not." + }, + { + "start": 1681.92, + "end": 1683.0400000000002, + "text": " If that's my man," + }, + { + "start": 1683.0400000000002, + "end": 1683.76, + "text": " then I'll be like," + }, + { + "start": 1683.76, + "end": 1684.24, + "text": " oh, babe." + }, + { + "start": 1684.24, + "end": 1685.0400000000002, + "text": " Like, yes." + }, + { + "start": 1685.0400000000002, + "end": 1687.0400000000002, + "text": " Let's save that coin." + }, + { + "start": 1687.0400000000002, + "end": 1688.3200000000002, + "text": " But first of all, first day," + }, + { + "start": 1688.3200000000002, + "end": 1689.3600000000001, + "text": " we shouldn't even be guys in the box." + }, + { + "start": 1689.3600000000001, + "end": 1689.8400000000001, + "text": " Exactly." + }, + { + "start": 1689.8400000000001, + "end": 1690.48, + "text": " How about it?" + }, + { + "start": 1690.48, + "end": 1691.44, + "text": " For starters." + }, + { + "start": 1691.44, + "end": 1692.72, + "text": " But you cannot do that like this." + }, + { + "start": 1692.72, + "end": 1694.72, + "text": " The same as the equivalent of bringing out a coupon." + }, + { + "start": 1695.3600000000001, + "end": 1697.76, + "text": " What song do the coupons on the first date?" + }, + { + "start": 1697.76, + "end": 1699.6000000000001, + "text": " I wouldn't mind the coupon on the first date." + }, + { + "start": 1699.6000000000001, + "end": 1700.4, + "text": " To Lonnie." + }, + { + "start": 1700.4, + "end": 1701.28, + "text": " I was like," + }, + { + "start": 1701.28, + "end": 1702.0, + "text": " exactly." + }, + { + "start": 1702.88, + "end": 1704.56, + "text": " That is a life on the pit of hell." + }, + { + "start": 1704.56, + "end": 1705.28, + "text": " I got a story." + }, + { + "start": 1705.28, + "end": 1705.52, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1705.52, + "end": 1706.56, + "text": " I got a story." + }, + { + "start": 1706.56, + "end": 1707.52, + "text": " That went on a date." + }, + { + "start": 1707.52, + "end": 1708.48, + "text": " Yeah, with somebody." + }, + { + "start": 1708.48, + "end": 1709.52, + "text": " It's the friend you." + }, + { + "start": 1709.52, + "end": 1710.24, + "text": " Absolutely." + }, + { + "start": 1711.2, + "end": 1711.92, + "text": " Absolutely." + }, + { + "start": 1711.92, + "end": 1712.96, + "text": " And when it cleared that up." + }, + { + "start": 1712.96, + "end": 1715.92, + "text": " So I went on a date with a guy" + }, + { + "start": 1715.92, + "end": 1719.1200000000001, + "text": " and he had a voucher of five pounds off." + }, + { + "start": 1719.1200000000001, + "end": 1720.8, + "text": " And we waited in the restaurant half an hour" + }, + { + "start": 1720.8, + "end": 1722.72, + "text": " until they redeemed that voucher." + }, + { + "start": 1722.72, + "end": 1724.08, + "text": " I said, I said three times." + }, + { + "start": 1724.08, + "end": 1724.56, + "text": " It's 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+ "text": " If you're a Jason, a Jason." + }, + { + "start": 2822.76, + "end": 2823.76, + "text": " Yes, no." + }, + { + "start": 2823.76, + "end": 2824.76, + "text": " If you're a Jason, a Jason." + }, + { + "start": 2824.76, + "end": 2825.76, + "text": " Or you're a Jason." + }, + { + "start": 2825.76, + "end": 2827.76, + "text": " Or if you're a Jason to a Jason." + }, + { + "start": 2827.76, + "end": 2828.76, + "text": " Ooh." + }, + { + "start": 2828.76, + "end": 2829.76, + "text": " Ooh." + }, + { + "start": 2829.76, + "end": 2830.76, + "text": " Ooh, well done." + }, + { + "start": 2830.76, + "end": 2833.76, + "text": " Yeah, so that is it for episode one." + }, + { + "start": 2833.76, + "end": 2835.76, + "text": " I've been tolly tea." + }, + { + "start": 2835.76, + "end": 2837.76, + "text": " Audrey formerly known as Garner Twinest." + }, + { + "start": 2837.76, + "end": 2839.76, + "text": " And your mama said that I know some chips." + }, + { + "start": 2839.76, + "end": 2841.76, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2846.76, + "end": 2850.76, + "text": " You can download the receipts on one extra on the new BBC Sounds app on your favourite podcast app." + }, + { + "start": 2850.76, + "end": 2868.76, + "text": " So there will be a few more episodes of the receipts on one extra." + }, + { + "start": 2868.76, + "end": 2869.76, + "text": " They're a pretty unpredictable bunch." + }, + { + "start": 2869.76, + "end": 2870.76, + "text": " I would imagine." + }, + { + "start": 2870.76, + "end": 2871.76, + "text": " Hards pinned down." + }, + { + "start": 2871.76, + "end": 2872.76, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 2872.76, + "end": 2873.76, + "text": " I mean, they will stay independent." + }, + { + "start": 2873.76, + "end": 2876.76, + "text": " I think they're going to, you know, they're going to keep doing the podcast probably not always" + }, + { + "start": 2876.76, + "end": 2877.76, + "text": " with the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 2877.76, + "end": 2879.76, + "text": " But there'll be a few more episodes with us." + }, + { + "start": 2879.76, + "end": 2883.76, + "text": " But on one extra, you can expect more stuff from them like this." + }, + { + "start": 2883.76, + "end": 2887.76, + "text": " Frank, funny discussions about Black culture in the UK." + }, + { + "start": 2887.76, + "end": 2889.76, + "text": " And we'll go under the banner of one extra chat." + }, + { + "start": 2889.76, + "end": 2892.76, + "text": " So as my kids would say, search that up." + }, + { + "start": 2892.76, + "end": 2894.76, + "text": " And we'll see you next time." + }, + { + "start": 2909.76, + "end": 2910.76, + "text": " Bye." + } +] \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/Transcipts_base/The_A.I._Bubble_is_Bursting_with_Ed_Zitron.json b/Transcipts_base/The_A.I._Bubble_is_Bursting_with_Ed_Zitron.json new file mode 100644 index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..4733badf6aac1ddc9f4ead09cd55cf21632038cf --- /dev/null +++ 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Thank you so much for joining me on the" + }, + { + "start": 3.68, + "end": 9.52, + "text": " show again. Artificial intelligence is supposed to revolutionize the world and our economy." + }, + { + "start": 9.52, + "end": 14.72, + "text": " The major platforms are spending tens of billions of dollars on it just this year alone to" + }, + { + "start": 14.72, + "end": 19.64, + "text": " gain an advantage. It's one of the largest infusions of cash into a specific technology" + }, + { + "start": 19.64, + "end": 24.44, + "text": " in the history of Silicon Valley. But while we're seeing all this investment, what we're" + }, + { + "start": 24.44, + "end": 29.68, + "text": " not seeing yet is anything approaching a revolution. The companies tell us that AI is about" + }, + { + "start": 29.68, + "end": 34.64, + "text": " to get massively better, that this is just the beginning and that a mega powerful artificial" + }, + { + "start": 34.64, + "end": 39.6, + "text": " general intelligence that will transform work and our lives is just around the corner." + }, + { + "start": 39.6, + "end": 44.88, + "text": " But there's a big problem. Large language models require material written or generated" + }, + { + "start": 44.88, + "end": 50.08, + "text": " by humans to train on. And a recent study found that they might already run out of training" + }, + { + "start": 50.08, + "end": 55.36, + "text": " data in just the next couple years, which means those models won't be able to get much better." + }, + { + "start": 55.36, + "end": 63.84, + "text": " And in the meantime, all of the AI companies are burning cash. Chat GPT loses $700,000" + }, + { + "start": 63.84, + "end": 70.4, + "text": " every day that it's running. Open AI's recent release of GPT 40 lets users interact with audio" + }, + { + "start": 70.4, + "end": 76.32, + "text": " or video, but the underlying model is the same. It's not actually any smarter than it used to be." + }, + { + "start": 76.32, + "end": 80.72, + "text": " It's just a little bit slicker now. And it's not going that much better for the other companies either." + }, + { + "start": 80.72, + "end": 86.08, + "text": " Apple just did a big reveal of their new Apple intelligence, which will let you use AI to turn a" + }, + { + "start": 86.08, + "end": 92.48, + "text": " photo of yourself into an emoji, which, okay, I mean, who gives a shit. And meanwhile, Google has" + }, + { + "start": 92.48, + "end": 98.64, + "text": " had to deal with the humiliation of people posting examples of their AI giving insane answers" + }, + { + "start": 98.64, + "end": 104.56, + "text": " to boring normal questions. No, Google AI, you should not put glue in your pizza sauce. And it's" + }, + { + "start": 104.56, + "end": 109.68, + "text": " kind of weird that your brand new product told me that I should. So there's this suspicion growing" + }, + { + "start": 109.68, + "end": 115.92, + "text": " that AI is nothing but marketing hype that it's the same as crypto, web3, and the metaverse," + }, + { + "start": 115.92, + "end": 121.04, + "text": " just a new way for these tech companies to prop up their stock prices because they don't have any" + }, + { + "start": 121.04, + "end": 127.52000000000001, + "text": " other real ideas. So is that the case? And if so, what is going to happen with the bubble bursts?" + }, + { + "start": 127.52000000000001, + "end": 132.08, + "text": " Well, on the show today, we have an absolutely incredible guest to answer those questions for us." + }, + { + "start": 132.08, + "end": 135.52, + "text": " But before we get into it, I just want to remind you that if you want to support this show and" + }, + { + "start": 135.52, + "end": 140.24, + "text": " all the conversations we bring you, you can do so on Patreon. Head to patreon.com slash ad" + }, + { + "start": 140.24, + "end": 144.32000000000002, + "text": " and con over five bucks a month gets you every episode of the show ad free. We've got a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 144.32000000000002, + "end": 148.64000000000001, + "text": " wonderful community features as well. We'd love to have you join us. And just to remind you," + }, + { + "start": 148.64000000000001, + "end": 152.56, + "text": " if you want to come see me do stand up comedy on the road, head to adonconover.net for tickets and" + }, + { + "start": 152.56, + "end": 157.28, + "text": " tour dates coming up soon. I'm heading to Phoenix, Arizona and Toronto, Canada, adonconover.net for" + }, + { + "start": 157.28, + "end": 162.88, + "text": " those tickets. And now let's get to this week's episode to dissect the waves of AI hype being pushed" + }, + { + "start": 162.88, + "end": 168.07999999999998, + "text": " by some of the most powerful companies on earth. My guest today is Ed Zitron. He's a writer," + }, + { + "start": 168.07999999999998, + "end": 173.12, + "text": " he's a PR guy, and he's also one of the smartest fiercest and most influential critics of tech" + }, + { + "start": 173.12, + "end": 178.72, + "text": " out there, which he puts in his influential newsletter. Where's your ed at? Please welcome Ed Zitron." + }, + { + "start": 182.32, + "end": 186.56, + "text": " Ed, thank you so much for being on the show. Thanks for having me. You have a wonderful newsletter" + }, + { + "start": 186.56, + "end": 192.24, + "text": " called Where's Your Ed at? Correct. Where you are documenting more than almost anybody else." + }, + { + "start": 192.24, + "end": 198.48000000000002, + "text": " What exactly is happening in the economy, especially in tech? You use this phrase, the rot economy." + }, + { + "start": 198.48000000000002, + "end": 203.84, + "text": " What do you mean by that? So the rot economy is this growth for all costs ecosystem. It's kind of" + }, + { + "start": 203.84, + "end": 209.76000000000002, + "text": " eating all the markets and it's most prevalent in tech. Where it's not about better, it's not even" + }, + { + "start": 209.76000000000002, + "end": 215.52, + "text": " about making more money per se. It's being able to show that you will grow forever. You will show" + }, + { + "start": 216.0, + "end": 223.04000000000002, + "text": " 10, 20% growth per quarter forever perpetually. What this means is you see products like Facebook," + }, + { + "start": 223.04000000000002, + "end": 228.64000000000001, + "text": " especially Facebook's best example, which are made worse. They are harder to use. There are more" + }, + { + "start": 228.64000000000001, + "end": 233.44, + "text": " ads. They interrupt you more than getting your way more. They interrupt. You're trying to do the" + }, + { + "start": 233.44, + "end": 238.08, + "text": " thing that the website is meant to be for Connect with France, for example, so that they can show" + }, + { + "start": 238.08, + "end": 243.12, + "text": " Wall Street. We're growing. We're not only increasing revenue, but number go up. It really is" + }, + { + "start": 243.12, + "end": 248.88, + "text": " the number go up mission. 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Google wanted to increase" + }, + { + "start": 282.0, + "end": 286.88, + "text": " the number of queries on Google, which doesn't mean Google is good. It means that more people are" + }, + { + "start": 286.88, + "end": 290.72, + "text": " searching for more, which usually suggest that Google is not doing its job right? Yeah. Because" + }, + { + "start": 290.72, + "end": 294.88, + "text": " if the more you have to search, the less good search results you're getting, you're trying three" + }, + { + "start": 294.88, + "end": 299.84000000000003, + "text": " search results when previously all you needed one. Exactly. And the problem is" + }, + { + "start": 299.91999999999996, + "end": 304.23999999999995, + "text": " for the user there is Google is worse. So you use it more, but that's a solution for Google," + }, + { + "start": 304.23999999999995, + "end": 310.08, + "text": " because you'll see more ads and also number of queries goes up. Yeah. Great. And this is really" + }, + { + "start": 310.08, + "end": 315.91999999999996, + "text": " the rot economy writ large. It's when products have kind of escaped the pen of utility. There was" + }, + { + "start": 315.91999999999996, + "end": 322.0, + "text": " usually it used to not be quite so obvious a con it used to be, oh, this is a free product. We" + }, + { + "start": 322.0, + "end": 328.0, + "text": " make so much more money. Like we should be paying you as well as this being free. But we're all happy" + }, + { + "start": 328.0, + "end": 332.08, + "text": " here because the product does what it's meant to. Yeah. Not really the case anymore in a lot of" + }, + { + "start": 332.08, + "end": 337.92, + "text": " cases at least. You make the argument that Facebook is dying in what way. So traffic to Facebook has" + }, + { + "start": 337.92, + "end": 343.2, + "text": " been dropping off for like three or four years. I mean, I deleted my Facebook account totally" + }, + { + "start": 344.56, + "end": 349.12, + "text": " four or five years ago and I've never once missed it. I'm still an Instagram addicts. Right. And" + }, + { + "start": 349.12, + "end": 353.68, + "text": " I kind of have to be for my work. Right. Like as a comedian, literally people ask me to do shows on" + }, + { + "start": 353.68, + "end": 357.92, + "text": " there. That's where I see other comedians. It's like that is the town square for what I am doing" + }, + { + "start": 357.92, + "end": 364.72, + "text": " for better or worse. Facebook never comes up. It's just has disappeared from the social world. I" + }, + { + "start": 364.72, + "end": 370.56, + "text": " inhabit. So what's insane is billions of people allegedly use Facebook. Yeah. Now you go in there" + }, + { + "start": 370.56, + "end": 377.52, + "text": " and it is kind of like Instagram. It is thing you've followed carousel of people you might know and" + }, + { + "start": 378.24, + "end": 383.76, + "text": " carousel of videos you can't what that show is like a three-second loop and person you follow" + }, + { + "start": 383.76, + "end": 389.03999999999996, + "text": " ad person you follow or sponsored content. What's also crazy is it's full of AI content now." + }, + { + "start": 389.03999999999996, + "end": 393.52, + "text": " Mm-hmm. Just weird like shrimp. Jesus is the when everyone see it like it's just a shrimp." + }, + { + "start": 393.52, + "end": 399.52, + "text": " AI. Jesus. Jesus. But he's like made of shrimp or like some not even like cocktail shrimp like" + }, + { + "start": 399.52, + "end": 405.91999999999996, + "text": " crustacean like in the sea shrimp. It's so I have seen both. Okay. And as a connoisseur of the shrimp." + }, + { + "start": 406.88, + "end": 410.56, + "text": " Yeah. I just wanted to be clear shrimp does not refer to the form of Jesus because he's actually" + }, + { + "start": 410.56, + "end": 417.28000000000003, + "text": " usually quite buff. What's also weird is you see a lot of these ones where it's like no one will" + }, + { + "start": 417.28000000000003, + "end": 422.8, + "text": " share this on a post with a million shares. Yeah. And it will be a disfigured child begging for money" + }, + { + "start": 422.8, + "end": 427.84000000000003, + "text": " on the street. And people responding just like wow this is so so terrible. I will support this." + }, + { + "start": 428.64, + "end": 434.0, + "text": " It isn't obvious whether these are real people or not. Yeah. But Facebook as a product is just" + }, + { + "start": 434.0, + "end": 438.64, + "text": " deteriorated and the the traffic's gone down. Web visits are down something we did because like" + }, + { + "start": 438.64, + "end": 444.96, + "text": " 20% 25% over the last few years along with most of the major internet platforms. And actually the" + }, + { + "start": 444.96, + "end": 452.0, + "text": " product itself functions so poorly. If you one of my favorite things I found recently was if you" + }, + { + "start": 452.0, + "end": 457.68, + "text": " type Facebook complaints into the search bar you can find six seven different groups with thousands" + }, + { + "start": 457.68, + "end": 462.88, + "text": " of people all complaining to what they think is Facebook. But when you go in there it's just the" + }, + { + "start": 462.88, + "end": 468.71999999999997, + "text": " most obvious scam artist saying like oh yeah DM me I'll help you get back in there. And then" + }, + { + "start": 468.71999999999997, + "end": 473.04, + "text": " the occasional Judas goat with someone responding to his another scammer saying oh this person really" + }, + { + "start": 473.04, + "end": 479.36, + "text": " helped me. And it's so strange because yeah this website makes billions and billions of dollars" + }, + { + "start": 479.36, + "end": 485.04, + "text": " but the actual product is broken bro. Are you log in you're like there's nobody here it's a dead" + }, + { + "start": 485.04, + "end": 490.71999999999997, + "text": " mall there's there's sort of like deluded boomers walking around by people who people who like" + }, + { + "start": 490.72, + "end": 495.92, + "text": " don't have their wits about them sort of stumbling about the place but not know like actual" + }, + { + "start": 496.56, + "end": 500.48, + "text": " activity of the type that we were used to 10 years ago or the type that would indicate there's a" + }, + { + "start": 500.48, + "end": 504.64000000000004, + "text": " thriving product happening. I wouldn't go on there to talk to a friend which kind of feels like the" + }, + { + "start": 504.64000000000004, + "end": 508.96000000000004, + "text": " point of the thing. Yeah. And even Instagram the only reason I keep Instagram is I have three or" + }, + { + "start": 508.96000000000004, + "end": 514.08, + "text": " four friends on there who or whatever reason maybe they hate me is they like they're not great with" + }, + { + "start": 514.08, + "end": 519.52, + "text": " text they're not great with email they're amazing on Instagram DMs. Yeah and I guess it might just be" + }, + { + "start": 519.52, + "end": 526.64, + "text": " the lanes of brains that people go into. Instagram is right now pretty bad too as you well know. Yeah" + }, + { + "start": 526.64, + "end": 531.92, + "text": " in the sense that you do get algorithm algorithm person's thing algorithm algorithm. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 532.56, + "end": 536.64, + "text": " But I think it's going to get so much worse. I think once Facebook really falls apart they're" + }, + { + "start": 536.64, + "end": 540.96, + "text": " going to go now we need to make Instagram even more profitable. 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If you like it, you can search for it wherever you normally listen to your" + }, + { + "start": 31.76, + "end": 36.72, + "text": " podcasts, wherever you're listening to this, for instance, and find more episodes. My name's Eli" + }, + { + "start": 36.72, + "end": 41.04, + "text": " Sessions. With me is Rianne Roberts. Hello, Rianne. You're using my surname. Have I been back?" + }, + { + "start": 41.04, + "end": 46.400000000000006, + "text": " Oh no, I'm not supposed to. Feel fine this now, Rianne. What are you bringing? 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Hit the one trillion dollar mark and it's big boss, the chief" + }, + { + "start": 470.56, + "end": 475.52, + "text": " executive, the founder Jeff Bezos is the world's richest man by far. Guess what he owns an hour?" + }, + { + "start": 476.4, + "end": 484.64, + "text": " 8 million bucks an hour. Is that 1% versus the rest the winner take all? Is that providing us with" + }, + { + "start": 484.64, + "end": 490.88, + "text": " a big problem in terms of how we organize society, do you think? It's a problem but it's also a benefit." + }, + { + "start": 490.88, + "end": 496.4, + "text": " You can take a taxi cab to London Airport, you can get out at San Francisco Airport and use" + }, + { + "start": 496.4, + "end": 501.44, + "text": " the same algorithm to take another taxi cab. There are quite a few benefits to being part of that" + }, + { + "start": 501.44, + "end": 507.28, + "text": " big scale and that large network. 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If you think about smartphones before Apple came along," + }, + { + "start": 806.96, + "end": 812.3199999999999, + "text": " they all looked a bit funny. They had kind of weird keyboards and a funny aerial and they" + }, + { + "start": 812.3199999999999, + "end": 818.72, + "text": " folded out in odd ways within 18 months of the iPhone coming out. Basically, all smartphones" + }, + { + "start": 818.8000000000001, + "end": 824.8000000000001, + "text": " look pretty much the same. This is what we call in the book Spillovers, which is to say the design" + }, + { + "start": 824.8000000000001, + "end": 831.84, + "text": " of the iPhone, that was readily appropriate by many other firms. But Apple solves that problem" + }, + { + "start": 832.4, + "end": 836.32, + "text": " in a way that illustrates one of the other properties of intangibles and that's the properties" + }, + { + "start": 836.32, + "end": 842.24, + "text": " of synergies, which is that of course what Apple had is not only the design of the smartphone," + }, + { + "start": 842.24, + "end": 847.52, + "text": " but they had the clever software, another intangible asset, they had the reputation of Apple itself," + }, + { + "start": 847.6, + "end": 852.24, + "text": " another intangible asset, and they had the whole network and marketing system around the" + }, + { + "start": 852.24, + "end": 857.4399999999999, + "text": " App Store, another intangible asset as well. Synergies essentially are the whole is greater than" + }, + { + "start": 857.4399999999999, + "end": 862.0799999999999, + "text": " the sum of the parts. So they all these ideas and features come together and create something" + }, + { + "start": 862.0799999999999, + "end": 868.0799999999999, + "text": " bigger. People talk about the whole Apple ecosystem as being a kind of measure of those synergies." + }, + { + "start": 868.0799999999999, + "end": 874.0, + "text": " And I suppose a good place to end is should we care about this? I mean, we see a lot of economists" + }, + { + "start": 874.0, + "end": 878.72, + "text": " bemoaning the fact that oh, we don't make anything anymore. It's all services, people making" + }, + { + "start": 878.72, + "end": 884.56, + "text": " cups of coffee for each other. That's no way to run an economy. Does it matter? So one way in which" + }, + { + "start": 884.56, + "end": 889.92, + "text": " it might matter, for example, is around inequality. It might well be that in the future the firms" + }, + { + "start": 889.92, + "end": 896.72, + "text": " who can scale up, they might grow very affluent and the owners of that company might do extremely well," + }, + { + "start": 896.72, + "end": 901.52, + "text": " whereas everybody else might not do quite so well. Jonathan Haskell and Stianne Westlake." + }, + { + "start": 904.0, + "end": 909.36, + "text": " Tomorrow I'll be looking at how our attention has become one of the most valuable commodities to" + }, + { + "start": 909.36, + "end": 913.36, + "text": " be traded and even stolen in the new age of capitalism." + }, + { + "start": 926.0, + "end": 930.72, + "text": " Well, that was a really fun show, Rianne. I love how he gets into it quickly. Just dive straight in," + }, + { + "start": 930.72, + "end": 934.24, + "text": " you're off and running. Yeah, great. Yeah, it's good, isn't it? Yeah. 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this." + }, + { + "start": 1323.16, + "end": 1326.16, + "text": " If you could email us every day tech..." + }, + { + "start": 1326.16, + "end": 1329.16, + "text": " Every day tech at MPB online..." + }, + { + "start": 1329.16, + "end": 1330.16, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1330.16, + "end": 1332.16, + "text": " ...on .org, excuse me, I said .com." + }, + { + "start": 1332.16, + "end": 1339.16, + "text": " Every day tech at MPBonline.org, and I would love to discuss this further with you offline." + }, + { + "start": 1339.16, + "end": 1344.16, + "text": " Because there's going to be certain questions I'd like to ask, but I don't want to broadcast that over the air." + }, + { + "start": 1344.16, + "end": 1349.16, + "text": " But the quick and easy way is to make sure that your network is not hidden." + }, + { + "start": 1349.16, + "end": 1352.16, + "text": " Make sure that you have..." + }, + { + "start": 1352.16, + "end": 1354.16, + "text": " Make sure your network's not hidden." + }, + { + "start": 1354.16, + "end": 1357.16, + "text": " Try to reconnect to it back to your device." + }, + { + "start": 1357.16, + "end": 1361.16, + "text": " Then also try to go ahead and connect using an Ethernet cable." + }, + { + "start": 1361.16, + "end": 1362.16, + "text": " I just want to..." + }, + { + "start": 1362.16, + "end": 1364.16, + "text": " There's a few things that I just want to rule out there." + }, + { + "start": 1364.16, + "end": 1366.16, + "text": " I don't think that you're breached." + }, + { + "start": 1366.16, + "end": 1368.16, + "text": " I don't think you have anything else." + }, + { + "start": 1368.16, + "end": 1369.16, + "text": " But that's what I'm thinking." + }, + { + "start": 1369.16, + "end": 1370.16, + "text": " What do y'all think?" + }, + { + "start": 1370.16, + "end": 1371.16, + "text": " So..." + }, + { + "start": 1371.16, + "end": 1372.16, + "text": " So, Shane..." + }, + { + "start": 1372.16, + "end": 1374.16, + "text": " Quick, another quick question." + }, + { + "start": 1374.16, + "end": 1376.16, + "text": " Let me go for a Shane." + }, + { + "start": 1376.16, + "end": 1378.16, + "text": " I'm tired." + }, + { + "start": 1378.16, + "end": 1379.16, + "text": " I need to interrupt you again." + }, + { + "start": 1379.16, + "end": 1380.16, + "text": " That's fine." + }, + { + "start": 1380.16, + "end": 1381.16, + "text": " That's fine." + }, + { + "start": 1381.16, + "end": 1382.16, + "text": " Go ahead." + }, + { + "start": 1382.16, + "end": 1385.16, + "text": " Quick question about this." + }, + { + "start": 1385.16, + "end": 1389.16, + "text": " So, this is a brand new modem that's put in?" + }, + { + "start": 1389.16, + "end": 1390.16, + "text": " Apparently new." + }, + { + "start": 1390.16, + "end": 1391.16, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 1391.16, + "end": 1394.16, + "text": " It's the latest that Comcast has available." + }, + { + "start": 1394.16, + "end": 1395.16, + "text": " Right." + }, + { + 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"text": " But there's something..." + }, + { + "start": 1464.16, + "end": 1466.16, + "text": " Normally it's easy to go back to it." + }, + { + "start": 1466.16, + "end": 1467.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1467.16, + "end": 1468.16, + "text": " And I was going to recommend even..." + }, + { + "start": 1468.16, + "end": 1470.16, + "text": " I was going to recommend even a couple of hardware changes." + }, + { + "start": 1470.16, + "end": 1473.16, + "text": " That could be happened where you were uninstall and reinstall." + }, + { + "start": 1473.16, + "end": 1475.16, + "text": " But that's not going to fix the issue because..." + }, + { + "start": 1475.16, + "end": 1478.16, + "text": " I mean, I'm not sure about that because she can see her neighbor stuff." + }, + { + "start": 1478.16, + "end": 1479.16, + "text": " That's why I want to get that new deal." + }, + { + "start": 1479.16, + "end": 1480.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1480.16, + "end": 1486.16, + "text": " Because there's a couple other questions I want to ask you, Diane, but I don't want to compromise your security over there." + }, + { + "start": 1486.16, + "end": 1487.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1487.16, + "end": 1488.16, + "text": " So, but there's something..." + }, + { + "start": 1488.16, + "end": 1489.16, + "text": " There's a couple other issues though." + }, + { + "start": 1489.16, + "end": 1490.16, + "text": " All right, I'm done." + }, + { + "start": 1490.16, + "end": 1491.16, + "text": " It seems to be an email." + }, + { + "start": 1491.16, + "end": 1493.16, + "text": " Yeah, just use an email." + }, + { + "start": 1493.16, + "end": 1495.16, + "text": " We'll try to work on it as a team too." + }, + { + "start": 1495.16, + "end": 1496.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1496.16, + "end": 1498.16, + "text": " Every day tech at mpboonline.org." + }, + { + "start": 1498.16, + "end": 1499.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1499.16, + "end": 1500.16, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 1500.16, + "end": 1502.16, + "text": " Yeah, I saw that online and I will do that." + }, + { + "start": 1502.16, + "end": 1503.16, + "text": " Thank you." + }, + { + "start": 1503.16, + "end": 1504.16, + "text": " I appreciate your time." + }, + { + "start": 1504.16, + "end": 1505.16, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 1505.16, + "end": 1506.16, + "text": " Thanks, Diane." + }, + { + "start": 1506.16, + "end": 1507.16, + "text": " Anytime." + }, + { + "start": 1507.16, + "end": 1508.16, + "text": " No problem." + }, + { + "start": 1508.16, + "end": 1509.16, + "text": " No problem." + }, + { + "start": 1509.16, + "end": 1510.16, + "text": " That's an interesting one." + }, + { + "start": 1510.16, + "end": 1511.16, + "text": " I can see that happen." + }, + { + "start": 1511.16, + "end": 1512.16, + "text": " Yeah, I've never seen that." + }, + { + "start": 1512.16, + "end": 1513.16, + "text": " I've seen that happen." + }, + { + 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as of May 7th, 2024, take talk announced their plan to sue the US government" + }, + { + "start": 1588.16, + "end": 1594.16, + "text": " saying it's unconstitutional for the government to ban the app from use or to force them to sell to another company." + }, + { + "start": 1594.16, + "end": 1600.16, + "text": " The lawsuit states if Congress can do this, it can circumvent the First Amendment by invoking national security" + }, + { + "start": 1600.16, + "end": 1606.16, + "text": " and ordering the publisher of any individual newspaper or website to sell to avoid being shut down." + }, + { + "start": 1606.16, + "end": 1607.16, + "text": " That is crazy." + }, + { + "start": 1607.16, + "end": 1609.16, + "text": " Yeah, it is quite wild." + }, + { + "start": 1610.16, + "end": 1615.16, + "text": " As I was looking a lot of this up last week, because I wanted to talk about it last week and we never got to it." + }, + { + "start": 1616.16, + "end": 1623.16, + "text": " As I was writing it, 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Appreciate you so much for listening for sure." + }, + { + "start": 2035.6399999999999, + "end": 2040.6, + "text": " Appreciate it. Yeah, and one thing we did not mention that it was his recommendation to Diane was" + }, + { + "start": 2040.6, + "end": 2046.9199999999998, + "text": " that we never said just try a hard reset. Yeah, never. Which I don't think that would be our problem," + }, + { + "start": 2046.92, + "end": 2052.04, + "text": " but always something that you do. The hard reset is the I don't know what else to try. Let me try" + }, + { + "start": 2052.04, + "end": 2060.04, + "text": " this. Yeah, that's that's that I would say if we were to if we were to get a wireless Nick," + }, + { + "start": 2060.04, + "end": 2065.4, + "text": " like a USB wireless Nick and that didn't work, then a hard reset. Right. You say I want to try" + }, + { + "start": 2065.4, + "end": 2070.2000000000003, + "text": " that wireless because it might just be something crazy happening with our internal device. So then" + }, + { + "start": 2070.2000000000003, + "end": 2075.8, + "text": " that that happens. That happens. We are glad you found our show everyday tech on MPB think radio." + }, + { + "start": 2075.8, + "end": 2080.6800000000003, + "text": " This is Abraham Nanny still here with Sabir Abdul Hock and Shane Chism who's ready to answer your" + }, + { + "start": 2080.6800000000003, + "end": 2087.1600000000003, + "text": " questions email us at everyday tech at MPB online dot org. So what is popular on the top streaming" + }, + { + "start": 2087.1600000000003, + "end": 2094.1200000000003, + "text": " services right now? As of today, May 22nd, 2024. Here's what we've got on Netflix, the movie Madam" + }, + { + "start": 2094.1200000000003, + "end": 2099.5600000000004, + "text": " Web tops the movie charts and congratulations. You were right. Germaine. The number one show is" + }, + { + "start": 2099.56, + "end": 2103.32, + "text": " Bridgerton. I know she was so hype about that last week. That for them. I" + }, + { + "start": 2104.2, + "end": 2114.04, + "text": " sing on the lead. You said the top of the list. You are amazing. We did a little bit of unfortunate" + }, + { + "start": 2114.04, + "end": 2120.12, + "text": " free promotion last week. Hey, look, quick question. Not to beer. Maybe Sabir. Maybe shame. Maybe" + }, + { + "start": 2120.12, + "end": 2126.36, + "text": " you know. I don't. So when it comes down to the Netflix, like somebody told me a little birdie" + }, + { + "start": 2126.36, + "end": 2133.6400000000003, + "text": " said that your top list is curated specifically for you. And I was like, no way. 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+ "end": 191.07999999999998, + "text": " There are some really great episodes in the back catalog." + }, + { + "start": 191.07999999999998, + "end": 192.72, + "text": " No, there really really are." + }, + { + "start": 192.72, + "end": 195.6, + "text": " David Attenborough talking about the Kuku, for instance." + }, + { + "start": 195.6, + "end": 197.27999999999997, + "text": " I just think this is delightful." + }, + { + "start": 197.27999999999997, + "end": 200.07999999999998, + "text": " And it always makes me feel better after I listen to it." + }, + { + "start": 200.07999999999998, + "end": 201.92, + "text": " Lots to be said for that, Eli." + }, + { + "start": 201.92, + "end": 203.11999999999998, + "text": " So thanks for listening to us." + }, + { + "start": 203.11999999999998, + "end": 204.44, + "text": " Go subscribe to Tweet of the Day." + }, + { + "start": 204.44, + "end": 206.35999999999999, + "text": " If you liked that and subscribed to us too," + }, + { + "start": 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31.36, + "end": 34.24, + "text": " And we've got a very, very important podcast today" + }, + { + "start": 34.24, + "end": 37.28, + "text": " about something but it's like me hold very dear." + }, + { + "start": 37.28, + "end": 39.2, + "text": " Yeah, it's called Under the Weather." + }, + { + "start": 39.2, + "end": 42.56, + "text": " It's a brand new podcast that is about how the weather works." + }, + { + "start": 42.56, + "end": 46.64, + "text": " It's hosted by two weather presenters, Simon King and Claire Nassier," + }, + { + "start": 46.64, + "end": 51.28, + "text": " who underneath their TV makeup and Naisuits are basically big weather nerds." + }, + { + "start": 51.28, + "end": 56.879999999999995, + "text": " They go and talk to experts about stuff like nuclear winter" + }, + { + "start": 56.879999999999995, + "end": 59.2, + "text": " or can you smell a storm coming?" + }, + { + "start": 59.2, + "end": 61.6, + "text": " And this episode is all about the ozone layer." + }, + { 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If you like it you can search for it on the web or in the podcasting app of your choice and listen to more episodes." + }, + { + "start": 38.0, + "end": 44.0, + "text": " I'm Eli and as always I'm joined by Rianne. Welcome Rianne. Hello Eli. What have we got today?" + }, + { + "start": 44.0, + "end": 51.0, + "text": " This is a very exciting day Eli because we have episode one of a brand new and original podcast from the BBC." + }, + { + "start": 51.0, + "end": 58.0, + "text": " Yes. And it's called Unpopped. This is a podcast all about an aspect of popular culture." + }, + { + "start": 58.0, + "end": 65.0, + "text": " So something that we really think deserves exploring deserves serious consideration. Very serious consideration." + }, + { + "start": 65.0, + "end": 73.0, + "text": " Absolutely. 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Right, here's what's coming up." + }, + { + "start": 99.0, + "end": 102.0, + "text": " We're going to do our championship check-in." + }, + { + "start": 102.0, + "end": 107.0, + "text": " Discuss how land onoruses win or has affected the driver and constructors championships." + }, + { + "start": 107.0, + "end": 111.0, + "text": " We're going to talk about my Clarence chances in the final six races" + }, + { + "start": 111.0, + "end": 116.0, + "text": " and also the sprint races, which I think could be quite key to the championship going forward." + }, + { + "start": 116.0, + "end": 118.0, + "text": " We'll talk a bit about Daniel Riccardo as well." + }, + { + "start": 118.0, + "end": 124.0, + "text": " And we'll also talk about Max Verstappen's threat to quit Formula One based on the swearing" + }, + { + "start": 124.0, + "end": 127.0, + "text": " that we heard in the press conference earlier on in the week." + }, + { + "start": 127.0, + "end": 129.0, + "text": " But let's start, shall we, with the championship check-in." + }, + { + "start": 129.0, + "end": 134.0, + "text": " And look, a hugely dominant display from land onoruses led from pole position all the way through" + }, + { + "start": 134.0, + "end": 137.0, + "text": " to the checkered flag. 20 seconds ahead of Max Verstappen." + }, + { + "start": 137.0, + "end": 140.0, + "text": " Here's how the driver's championship looks then." + }, + { + "start": 140.0, + "end": 142.0, + "text": " Verstappen on 331 points." + }, + { + "start": 142.0, + "end": 146.0, + "text": " Norris on 279. 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"text": " Do a digital detox." + }, + { + "start": 130.84, + "end": 133.52, + "text": " We hear those phrases all the time." + }, + { + "start": 133.52, + "end": 134.48000000000002, + "text": " And we get it." + }, + { + "start": 134.48000000000002, + "end": 135.72, + "text": " We all want to do it." + }, + { + "start": 135.72, + "end": 137.4, + "text": " We're all trying." + }, + { + "start": 137.4, + "end": 141.64000000000001, + "text": " But look, it's not like those hours I spend looking at my little screen are all about" + }, + { + "start": 141.64000000000001, + "end": 146.8, + "text": " checking Instagram or playing Candy Crush or shopping on Zappos." + }, + { + "start": 146.8, + "end": 150.20000000000002, + "text": " When my kid broke his finger at camp, how did I find out?" + }, + { + "start": 150.20000000000002, + "end": 151.20000000000002, + "text": " A text." + }, + { + "start": 151.20000000000002, + "end": 152.20000000000002, + "text": " Why?" + }, + { + "start": 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If you've never listened to the podcast before, let me explain what we're doing." + }, + { + "start": 24.0, + "end": 30.0, + "text": " Twice a week we listen with you to an episode from a different BBC podcast that we think is worth your time." + }, + { + "start": 30.0, + "end": 38.0, + "text": " If you'd like it and you want to hear more, you can search for it and subscribe. My name's Eli and as always I'm joined by William." + }, + { + "start": 38.0, + "end": 40.0, + "text": " What do we listen to today, William?" + }, + { + "start": 40.0, + "end": 50.0, + "text": " You're such a lucky person to be joined by me with actually with this brilliant episode of Adam Bucksen's comedy series which he did for Radio 4," + }, + { + "start": 50.0, + "end": 52.0, + "text": " which is called you're doing it wrong." + }, + { + "start": 52.0, + "end": 70.0, + "text": " So in the four episodes that he's done he takes a particular topic which we are all quite concerned about in our modern lives and explains why we're doing it wrong with advice from various experts and of course bringing his own unique and whimsical and delightful take on the world." + }, + { + "start": 70.0, + "end": 76.0, + "text": " And that there are episodes about diet, parenting and I love them all. 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188.56, + "end": 190.04, + "text": " Hi, this is Teresa." + }, + { + "start": 190.04, + "end": 191.44, + "text": " I'm from Dallas, Texas." + }, + { + "start": 191.44, + "end": 192.44, + "text": " Teresa." + }, + { + "start": 192.44, + "end": 193.44, + "text": " Hi." + }, + { + "start": 193.44, + "end": 194.44, + "text": " T-H-E-R-E-S-A?" + }, + { + "start": 194.44, + "end": 195.44, + "text": " Yeah, no H." + }, + { + "start": 195.44, + "end": 196.44, + "text": " No H." + }, + { + "start": 196.44, + "end": 197.44, + "text": " No H." + }, + { + "start": 197.44, + "end": 198.44, + "text": " No H." + }, + { + "start": 198.44, + "end": 199.44, + "text": " See, I was right in there." + }, + { + "start": 199.44, + "end": 200.44, + "text": " Ah, this is the sessionist, Teresa." + }, + { + "start": 200.44, + "end": 201.44, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 201.44, + "end": 203.68, + "text": " How does it feel to be part of a new country?" + }, + { + "start": 203.68, + "end": 204.68, + "text": " New country." + }, + { + "start": 204.68, + "end": 207.96, + "text": " Haven't you guys seceded from the union?" + }, + { + "start": 207.96, + "end": 209.72, + "text": " Oh, don't bring that up." + }, + { + "start": 209.72, + "end": 211.12, + "text": " Okay, we won't bring that up." + }, + { + "start": 211.12, + "end": 212.12, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 212.12, + "end": 214.68, + "text": " Well, I am having an international incident in my own home." + }, + { + "start": 214.68, + "end": 215.68, + "text": " Oh, really?" + }, + { + "start": 215.68, + "end": 216.68, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 216.68, + "end": 217.68, + "text": " Did you say it from Dallas?" + }, + { + "start": 217.68, + "end": 218.68, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 218.68, + "end": 222.48, + "text": " Yeah, I'm from Dallas, but my husband's British, see?" + }, + { + "start": 222.48, + "end": 225.76, + "text": " And we have to move from Dallas to Ohio." + }, + { + "start": 225.76, + 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+ "end": 447.68, + "text": " Okay." + }, + { + "start": 447.68, + "end": 448.68, + "text": " Bye bye." + }, + { + "start": 448.68, + "end": 455.68, + "text": " And what would you ever do if they brought the Toyota and it broke down every car?" + }, + { + "start": 455.68, + "end": 456.68, + "text": " Oh, that's why she's going to find it." + }, + { + "start": 456.68, + "end": 458.36, + "text": " You'd never be able to talk your way out of that." + }, + { + "start": 458.36, + "end": 462.12, + "text": " She's got to get the discovery and hope that it's a basket case." + }, + { + "start": 462.12, + "end": 463.12, + "text": " 1-800-332-9287." + }, + { + "start": 463.12, + "end": 464.12, + "text": " Hello, you're on Kairtok." + }, + { + "start": 464.12, + "end": 467.12, + "text": " This is Attila Winninger from Wheat Millinois." + }, + { + "start": 467.12, + "end": 468.12, + "text": " Attila?" + }, + { + "start": 468.12, + "end": 469.12, + "text": " Yes." + }, + { + "start": 469.12, + "end": 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I'm still there's plenty. I'm trying to think of a word that ends in" + }, + { + "start": 34.64, + "end": 39.2, + "text": " shun and I'm just totally coming up drive. Sorry, Rian. That's okay. I got four in there." + }, + { + "start": 39.2, + "end": 44.72, + "text": " Yes. So if you like this particular episode then the feed is there. We were kind of in a" + }, + { + "start": 44.72, + "end": 49.92, + "text": " alert system aren't we Eli? Yeah, that's right. That's right. We've liked the Beacons. We let you know." + }, + { + "start": 49.92, + "end": 55.52, + "text": " Yeah. So what are you letting us know about? Well today it's a podcast from Radio 5 Live called" + }, + { + "start": 55.52, + "end": 62.080000000000005, + "text": " You Me and the Big C. Now it's in a time-honored podcast tradition of talking about stuff that people" + }, + { + "start": 62.080000000000005, + "end": 68.0, + "text": " usually don't talk about. 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Deborah James, better name to some as Bauer Bay, hey and the Rachel Blanc" + }, + { + "start": 111.44, + "end": 117.28, + "text": " from Big C Little Me also heard on 5 Live as well. We are three friends, we are bloggers, we all" + }, + { + "start": 117.28, + "end": 123.03999999999999, + "text": " have one major thing in common. We all have what we have had cancer and we're here to tell you all" + }, + { + "start": 123.03999999999999, + "end": 128.07999999999998, + "text": " about the highs as well as the lows. Just a reminder before we get started that you can get in touch" + }, + { + "start": 128.07999999999998, + "end": 133.36, + "text": " to suggest future topics, things that you'd like to hear us talk about. You can use the hashtag You Me" + }, + { + "start": 133.36, + "end": 140.07999999999998, + "text": " Big C on social media. 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Your hair looks amazing." + }, + { + "start": 3364.0, + "end": 3366.0, + "text": " You were just saying to me, it's not real." + }, + { + "start": 3366.0, + "end": 3369.0, + "text": " No. I lost half of my hair." + }, + { + "start": 3369.0, + "end": 3373.0, + "text": " So, yeah, I mean, can we see it if I should go?" + }, + { + "start": 3373.0, + "end": 3376.0, + "text": " Yeah, yeah, so, lost half of my hair." + }, + { + "start": 3376.0, + "end": 3378.0, + "text": " So it's starting to grow back." + }, + { + "start": 3378.0, + "end": 3381.0, + "text": " So I've seen you on social media talking about your chemo wings." + }, + { + "start": 3381.0, + "end": 3384.0, + "text": " Yeah. I've got the same thing like my little sideburns." + }, + { + "start": 3384.0, + "end": 3388.0, + "text": " Yeah, whenever I wash my hair, they kind of just go outwards like this." + }, + { + "start": 3388.0, + "end": 3390.0, + "text": " So I look like Okido." + }, + { + "start": 3391.0, + "end": 3392.0, + "text": " The cartoon character." + }, + { + "start": 3392.0, + "end": 3395.0, + "text": " And so have you got extensions in? Are there clippings?" + }, + { + "start": 3395.0, + "end": 3398.0, + "text": " They are. I think it's called an LA weave." + }, + { + "start": 3398.0, + "end": 3400.0, + "text": " Oh, girl, you've got a weave." + }, + { + "start": 3400.0, + "end": 3402.0, + "text": " Yeah. 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I'm just jealous." + }, + { + "start": 3446.0, + "end": 3451.0, + "text": " Yes, I'm hating, I'm just hating. I'm hating and hating." + }, + { + "start": 3451.0, + "end": 3454.0, + "text": " I'm just going to jealous going on here." + }, + { + "start": 3454.0, + "end": 3456.0, + "text": " Do you want to give us a little bit of background, babe?" + }, + { + "start": 3456.0, + "end": 3459.0, + "text": " Like let, because obviously we know you very well and we know your story," + }, + { + "start": 3459.0, + "end": 3461.0, + "text": " we know your age, we know family situation." + }, + { + "start": 3461.0, + "end": 3465.0, + "text": " Like we do mind telling everyone like who you are, how old you are," + }, + { + "start": 3465.0, + "end": 3467.0, + "text": " and what's going on, can't you guys?" + }, + { + "start": 3467.0, + "end": 3472.0, + "text": " So I was 28 when I was diagnosed with stage four bowel cancer." + }, + { + "start": 3472.0, + "end": 3477.0, + "text": " I had a five centimeter tumor in my bowel." + }, + { + "start": 3477.0, + "end": 3481.0, + "text": " It spread to my lymph nodes and it spread to my liver." + }, + { + "start": 3481.0, + "end": 3485.0, + "text": " So I had an emergency right hemic electomy." + }, + { + "start": 3485.0, + "end": 3488.0, + "text": " Which is basically a liver resection." + }, + { + "start": 3488.0, + "end": 3491.0, + "text": " No, no, no. 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3785.0, + "end": 3786.0, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 3786.0, + "end": 3787.0, + "text": " It's a good thing." + }, + { + "start": 3787.0, + "end": 3791.0, + "text": " And then this is something that I found last year when my cancer came straight back after my surgery." + }, + { + "start": 3791.0, + "end": 3795.0, + "text": " And they said, you're gonna have to have some more chemo straight off the back of all the treatment." + }, + { + "start": 3795.0, + "end": 3796.0, + "text": " I thought I was done." + }, + { + "start": 3796.0, + "end": 3798.0, + "text": " You know, you have that endpoint in sight." + }, + { + "start": 3798.0, + "end": 3799.0, + "text": " But you just..." + }, + { + "start": 3799.0, + "end": 3801.0, + "text": " You have to just take a bit of time and regroup." + }, + { + "start": 3801.0, + "end": 3802.0, + "text": " And you've got no choice, everyone." + }, + { + "start": 3802.0, + "end": 3803.0, + "text": " So how do you do it?" + }, + { + "start": 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I mean, and paying through the nose to do it." + }, + { + "start": 862.88, + "end": 864.88, + "text": " Right. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 864.88, + "end": 870.88, + "text": " It's people that have experienced winter tires have the, the, the, they're always so happy." + }, + { + "start": 870.88, + "end": 877.88, + "text": " The satisfaction, owner satisfaction, a brand of winter tires is tremendous because they bought them to do one thing and they do that really, really well." + }, + { + "start": 877.88, + "end": 880.88, + "text": " And it's noticeable. That really hits home for them." + }, + { + "start": 880.88, + "end": 881.88, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 881.88, + "end": 882.88, + "text": " Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 882.88, + "end": 886.88, + "text": " And you go through those parking lots and it's just winter tire, winter tires." + }, + { + "start": 886.88, + "end": 887.88, + "text": " Right. Absolutely." + }, + { + "start": 887.88, + "end": 889.88, + "text": " Because of that group of people who are out there." + }, + { + "start": 889.88, + "end": 893.88, + "text": " So yes, thank you, Ryan, for educating us, educating everybody." + }, + { + "start": 893.88, + "end": 900.88, + "text": " There is a ton, not just the ratings, but of tire information, maintenance, everything at consumer reports dot org." + }, + { + "start": 900.88, + "end": 902.88, + "text": " Ryan is a wealth." + }, + { + "start": 902.88, + "end": 908.88, + "text": " So moving on to audience questions, send all your tire questions, Ryan Pizzlecow, ski note is kidding." + }, + { + "start": 908.88, + "end": 910.88, + "text": " Talking cars at iCloud." + }, + { + "start": 910.88, + "end": 913.88, + "text": " Written video, etc." + }, + { + "start": 913.88, + "end": 914.88, + "text": " And we love them." + }, + { + "start": 914.88, + "end": 919.88, + "text": " This week we have a great video question from Mike in South Hadley." + }, + { + "start": 919.88, + "end": 922.88, + "text": " Mass our neighbor. Hello, Mike and take a listen." + }, + { + "start": 922.88, + "end": 923.88, + "text": " Hi, talking cars." + }, + { + "start": 923.88, + "end": 928.88, + "text": " I've been a regular listener and a subscriber to CR and I love what you do." + }, + { + "start": 928.88, + "end": 930.88, + "text": " I may have a bone to pick with you though." + }, + { + "start": 930.88, + "end": 937.88, + "text": " The consumer is the number one driver of the US economy and you do good work helping us make smart decisions and spending." + }, + { + "start": 937.88, + "end": 943.88, + "text": " I have one objection in the case of automobiles and CR's impact." + }, + { + "start": 943.88, + "end": 951.88, + "text": " There has been little change in the road fatality rate since 2009, but the average new car cost 62% more now." + }, + { + "start": 951.88, + "end": 957.88, + "text": " The share of young people licensed to drive is at record low as a result." + }, + { + "start": 957.88, + "end": 959.88, + 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Oh and my son for sending in the music you hear in the background" + }, + { + "start": 70.0, + "end": 75.52000000000001, + "text": " Porter said hey dad this song was recorded on an iPad pro using Garageband" + }, + { + "start": 75.52000000000001, + "end": 82.2, + "text": " The song is called something creepy and I transferred it to your computer using air drop regards Porter" + }, + { + "start": 82.52000000000001, + "end": 86.44, + "text": " Well, thanks Porter for the music and folks. I'll put the full song at the end of the episode" + }, + { + "start": 87.0, + "end": 91.03999999999999, + "text": " Also want to thank Steve for sending in the artwork for this episode Steve wrote" + }, + { + "start": 91.56, + "end": 95.32, + "text": " Hi Rob. I've been listening since your first podcast in fact" + }, + { + "start": 95.32, + "end": 102.28, + "text": " You quoted me when Apple lowered the price for the original iPhone just a month after we all stood in line to purchase one" + }, + { + "start": 102.28, + "end": 110.0, + "text": " I wrote the show to say I salute you Steve jobs. I'll let you guess which finger who knows we all got a refund of" + }, + { + "start": 110.2, + "end": 112.2, + "text": " $100 shortly after" + }, + { + "start": 112.24000000000001, + "end": 117.04, + "text": " You've served an invaluable information source for all of us over the years including Apple" + }, + { + "start": 117.48, + "end": 121.48, + "text": " Though they may not admit it openly regards Steve redman" + }, + { + "start": 121.48, + "end": 127.8, + "text": " Well, thanks Steve for the artwork and folks you can see the artwork in the free T.I. Up via the bonus button for episode 506" + }, + { + "start": 128.0, + "end": 134.28, + "text": " Or at Instagram dot com slash today and iOS and also at Facebook dot com slash today and iOS" + }, + { + "start": 135.0, + "end": 140.92000000000002, + "text": " If you have some artwork and or music you have created on your iOS device that you would like to share with the audience" + }, + { + "start": 141.23999999999998, + "end": 144.88, + "text": " Please email to me at today and iOS at gmail dot com" + }, + { + "start": 145.07999999999998, + "end": 149.56, + "text": " Please make sure to include which app or apps you use to create set artwork and or music" + }, + { + "start": 150.6, + "end": 156.11999999999998, + "text": " Before we get into the Apple September 2021 event we need to cover some urgent news" + }, + { + "start": 156.83999999999997, + "end": 162.83999999999997, + "text": " Apple just released a critical security update for iPhones iPads Apple watches and Max" + }, + { + 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It's Tuesday, Sunday, October 27, 2024. And this is episode 284 of the" + }, + { + "start": 38.04, + "end": 43.040000000000006, + "text": " Defensive Security Podcast. My name is Jerry Bell. And joining me today is always Mr. Andrew" + }, + { + "start": 43.040000000000006, + "end": 47.760000000000005, + "text": " Elliott. Good evening, Jerry. I see you're at the undisclosed secret to Southern Command" + }, + { + "start": 47.760000000000005, + "end": 54.88, + "text": " Location. Yes, I'm in a different location in the Southern compound because the Southern" + }, + { + "start": 54.88, + "end": 63.040000000000006, + "text": " compound is about to get new floors. That sounds very fun. Yes, and to be exciting. Good" + }, + { + "start": 63.040000000000006, + "end": 72.80000000000001, + "text": " luck with that. Thank you. There we go. Happy Sunday. So happy Sunday. How you doing?" + }, + { + "start": 72.80000000000001, + "end": 77.0, + "text": " I'm good. I have to go back to work for you. Don't. I just have to make a little bit" + }, + { + "start": 77.0, + "end": 85.32, + "text": " of a figure out how to move some interactively large furniture so that the flooring can go" + }, + { + "start": 85.32, + "end": 91.64, + "text": " in. So that'll be my fun. But yeah, life continues to be good. I've at some point got" + }, + { + "start": 91.64, + "end": 96.56, + "text": " to figure out how I'm going to start earning money again, but I'm kicking that kid down" + }, + { + "start": 96.56, + "end": 102.48, + "text": " the road as long as I can. That's a future Jerry problem. Yes, exactly. It's a future" + }, + { + "start": 102.48, + "end": 108.08, + "text": " Jerry problem. That's fair. Just before we did into the stories, I reminder that the" + }, + { + "start": 108.08, + "end": 112.72, + "text": " thoughts and opinions we express on the show are ours and do not represent those of our" + }, + { + "start": 112.72, + "end": 119.96000000000001, + "text": " employers. Even if some of us don't have employers. Any future passed or multi-dimensional" + }, + { + "start": 119.96000000000001, + "end": 128.96, + "text": " employers? Correct. Correct. So the first story we have today comes from CNBC. And the" + }, + { + "start": 128.96, + "end": 134.88, + "text": " title here is Delta Suze CrowdStrike after widespread IT outage that caused thousands of" + }, + { + "start": 134.88, + "end": 140.72, + "text": " cancellations. This has obviously been in the works for a while. We've talked about it" + }, + { + "start": 140.72, + "end": 149.52, + "text": " several times in the past, but it has finally landed. Delta is indeed suing CrowdStrike" + }, + { + "start": 149.52, + "end": 158.68, + "text": " in Georgia for the look price. 500 million claiming that they have lost $380 million" + }, + { + "start": 158.68, + "end": 166.48000000000002, + "text": " in revenue as a result of the breach and then another $170 million in costs. 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So I don't know if that was folklore," + }, + { + "start": 402.24, + "end": 407.76, + "text": " like I reported somewhere or if it's accurate. But if that is true, it's interesting that" + }, + { + "start": 407.76, + "end": 416.24, + "text": " there's a number that CrowdStrike came back with as an opening of negotiation. If that happened." + }, + { + "start": 416.24, + "end": 422.15999999999997, + "text": " They did. So they did lower CrowdStrike, I should say. They being CrowdStrike did lower their" + }, + { + "start": 422.16, + "end": 428.56, + "text": " full year guidance on profits because of the package that they're putting together to compensate" + }, + { + "start": 428.56, + "end": 435.6, + "text": " customers who are harmed by the the incident. So it's entirely possible that they have some" + }, + { + "start": 435.6, + "end": 442.0, + "text": " formulation that resulted in Delta getting a proposed 30 million dollars. I don't know. 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Yeah, their earnings per year revenue was 3.516 billion." + }, + { + "start": 561.6, + "end": 567.6, + "text": " Last year just looking source of this is CNBC page on crowd strikes. So hopefully we're out" + }, + { + "start": 567.6, + "end": 577.36, + "text": " to the accurate. Gross margin. They're gross margin. 75.37%. That is insanely high gross margin." + }, + { + "start": 578.96, + "end": 583.76, + "text": " Wow. Anyway, so I think what we're saying is that we should start. Welcome to the technical," + }, + { + "start": 583.76, + "end": 588.96, + "text": " welcome to the technical analysis by days. Exactly. Yeah. So we're going to start a hedge fund" + }, + { + "start": 588.96, + "end": 595.2, + "text": " buying on bad news and cybersecurity for companies and just waiting for the balance back." + }, + { + "start": 595.2, + "end": 600.08, + "text": " Some people might. It do knows. This is not investment advice. I'm not your investor advisor." + }, + { + "start": 600.08, + "end": 605.76, + "text": " If you do it in a makeshimoney, send me a Starbucks card. Okay. But back to the industry at large." + }, + { + "start": 606.5600000000001, + "end": 611.84, + "text": " If this goes to the distances we were saying earlier and crowd strike loses a bunch of money on this," + }, + { + "start": 611.84, + "end": 619.36, + "text": " I wonder what kind of chilling effect that might have on cutting in innovation in cybersecurity" + }, + { + "start": 619.36, + "end": 624.8000000000001, + "text": " defense and does that give the bad guys a potential advantage if the defender suddenly get cold" + }, + { + "start": 624.8000000000001, + "end": 630.48, + "text": " feet about being aggressive in defending against the bad guys? Certainly possible that there is some" + }, + { + "start": 630.48, + "end": 636.8000000000001, + "text": " moral hazard in the whole no good deed goes unpunished. 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As we've talked about in the past," + }, + { + "start": 702.32, + "end": 708.32, + "text": " I think that was one of the one of the concessions that crowd strike recently said that they were" + }, + { + "start": 708.32, + "end": 713.28, + "text": " making a change on that they were going to be treating those channel file updates as actual code" + }, + { + "start": 713.28, + "end": 718.88, + "text": " updates. Yeah. And giving admins more control over their rollout schedule and methodology." + }, + { + "start": 719.4399999999999, + "end": 726.4, + "text": " We'll see. We will see. I will watch this one. I definitely want to find the text of the lawsuit." + }, + { + "start": 726.4, + "end": 731.04, + "text": " I did a quick search before the show and I ran out of time and I couldn't find it. It's" + }, + { + "start": 731.04, + "end": 734.88, + "text": " supposedly in Fulton County, which is one of our main counties here in Georgia." + }, + { + "start": 735.68, + "end": 739.28, + "text": " Their superior court system and I was searching the records. Not a lot of other interesting" + }, + { + "start": 739.28, + "end": 744.88, + "text": " lawsuits that Deltas evolved with, but not this one. A lot of garnishing of wages going out" + }, + { + "start": 744.88, + "end": 751.52, + "text": " with Delta place, which for the record. Interesting. Interesting. That could be the case with" + }, + { + "start": 751.52, + "end": 756.24, + "text": " any major employers. I have no idea what normal is for how many garnishing of wage loss to" + }, + { + "start": 756.24, + "end": 763.04, + "text": " tap in, but it was a very large employer here. Yeah. One of our biggest. I think. Yeah." + }, + { + "start": 765.12, + "end": 770.4, + "text": " Anyway, yeah. If this doesn't get settled out of court, we'll be talking about this crazy thing" + }, + { + "start": 770.4, + "end": 779.12, + "text": " probably till 2030. Tissure. It will be a long cycle. But I, you know what? I think you're right." + }, + { + "start": 779.12, + "end": 784.3199999999999, + "text": " I think this will get settled. I don't think it's anybody's best interest for this to go all the way." + }, + { + "start": 785.84, + "end": 789.76, + "text": " No. The question is the only people. This is one of those situations where the only people who" + }, + { + "start": 789.76, + "end": 795.68, + "text": " win are the lawyers. Right. And look, to be clear, I'm also not like taking sides here. I'm not" + }, + { + "start": 795.68, + "end": 802.0799999999999, + "text": " rooting for or against either of these companies. I just, I bet some of the discovery that would come" + }, + { + "start": 802.0799999999999, + "end": 807.28, + "text": " out would not look good for anybody. And I think they know that, but I think this is how lawyers" + }, + { + "start": 807.28, + "end": 816.0, + "text": " maximize their settlement options. Yeah. So just to go meta for a second, I think. I also find" + }, + { + "start": 816.0, + "end": 822.3199999999999, + "text": " interesting how both sides are throwing each other under the bus. Like CrowdStrike is saying," + }, + { + "start": 822.8000000000001, + "end": 825.6800000000001, + "text": " like this wouldn't have happened if you hadn't had this old-ass" + }, + { + "start": 826.8000000000001, + "end": 834.08, + "text": " infrastructure. And Delta is saying this would never have happened if you hadn't been cutting corners." + }, + { + "start": 835.36, + "end": 840.5600000000001, + "text": " And so they're like, they're just, they're just like throwing pushing each other down in front of" + }, + { + "start": 840.5600000000001, + "end": 848.0, + "text": " a bus, trying to see which one who actually gets run over. But I, I think the parallel there is," + }, + { + "start": 848.0, + "end": 855.04, + "text": " you're always one step away from something bad happening like this. And if Delta does want to go" + }, + { + "start": 855.04, + "end": 861.76, + "text": " all the way, they are going to necessarily air all their dirty laundry from a security perspective," + }, + { + "start": 861.76, + "end": 868.0, + "text": " from a 19 management perspective. And on the con on the converse CrowdStrike has already had," + }, + { + "start": 868.0, + "end": 874.8, + "text": " they've already experienced a lot of discomfort. I think they've got more ahead of them, but not as much" + }, + { + "start": 874.8, + "end": 878.8, + "text": " as I think is Delta does though. That's a good point. CrowdStrike has already had to open the" + }, + { + "start": 878.8, + "end": 884.4, + "text": " commoto before Congress and everybody else. And Delta really hasn't had to. So that's a very good" + }, + { + "start": 884.4, + "end": 891.3599999999999, + "text": " point. We'll see. We'll see. All right. Moving on to our next story. This one comes from the register" + }, + { + "start": 891.3599999999999, + "end": 897.5999999999999, + "text": " and the title here is TechFirm's to pay millions in SEC penalties for misleading SolarWinds' disclosures." + }, + { + "start": 897.5999999999999, + "end": 902.9599999999999, + "text": " This is the event that just keeps on eventing. Oh yes. Back four years ago," + }, + { + "start": 903.6800000000001, + "end": 908.96, + "text": " I was a few. You'll remember. That's like a couple things. Two hundred years ago. We had a couple" + }, + { + "start": 908.96, + "end": 915.2800000000001, + "text": " of things going on at that time. That was right at the right at the upswing of COVID. But SolarWinds" + }, + { + "start": 915.2800000000001, + "end": 923.76, + "text": " announced there was the big news about the SolarWinds hack. 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The only thing we know is what's been reported. I am concerned, like I just," + }, + { + "start": 1432.16, + "end": 1438.56, + "text": " checkpoint is an example. Like they file very, it's just described in the article here," + }, + { + "start": 1438.56, + "end": 1448.24, + "text": " very generic, their disclosures were made in very generic terms. And even after the fine," + }, + { + "start": 1448.24, + "end": 1456.08, + "text": " like the follow up was done in very generic terms. And I have to wonder if that's because" + }, + { + "start": 1456.08, + "end": 1461.6, + "text": " they're a security company. Maybe I worked for checkpoint for about five years." + }, + { + "start": 1462.08, + "end": 1469.6, + "text": " And checkpoint is like, what are the top technology firms in Israel?" + }, + { + "start": 1470.32, + "end": 1476.0, + "text": " It's the rock star company of Cyberschkiri Israel. 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It basically proceeds" + }, + { + "start": 2103.44, + "end": 2109.76, + "text": " the same way. Right. They commence the employee start screen sharing session where they install" + }, + { + "start": 2110.56, + "end": 2118.96, + "text": " I ultimately the intention is to install Cobalt strike again, which lets them take over the network." + }, + { + "start": 2120.2400000000002, + "end": 2124.1600000000003, + "text": " I will be honest, given the amount of political spam I've been getting to my show and if somebody called" + }, + { + "start": 2124.16, + "end": 2129.2799999999997, + "text": " me to offer to help stop that, I probably would let them. What do you need? Let get stuff." + }, + { + "start": 2131.7599999999998, + "end": 2137.6, + "text": " Living in this ring state is exciting this time of year. Yeah, I totally, totally," + }, + { + "start": 2137.6, + "end": 2144.48, + "text": " you think what once they've got Cobalt strike on the computer, particularly Windows computer," + }, + { + "start": 2145.92, + "end": 2152.0, + "text": " if there's a myriad ways for lateral movement, it's not guaranteed. You may have other really" + }, + { + "start": 2152.0, + "end": 2157.92, + "text": " awesome controls in your environment that will detect and mitigate the attacks. But I think that" + }, + { + "start": 2157.92, + "end": 2164.24, + "text": " in general, this has been a pretty effective technique. I suspect, by the way, that if they're" + }, + { + "start": 2164.24, + "end": 2171.52, + "text": " going through the trouble of identifying a specific person at a specific organization, they're" + }, + { + "start": 2171.52, + "end": 2178.08, + "text": " probably doing a little bit of weeding out, looking for companies that they have the ability to" + }, + { + "start": 2178.08, + "end": 2187.04, + "text": " connect in through teams and perhaps aren't super sophisticated to be able to detect Cobalt strike." + }, + { + "start": 2187.04, + "end": 2192.7999999999997, + "text": " Right. Key takeaways for me, lockdown teams to approval for external connections. And maybe" + }, + { + "start": 2193.2799999999997, + "end": 2198.08, + "text": " block the ability for any of your endpoints loaded as your own access tools. 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So you're saying it's your fall." + }, + { + "start": 2263.9199999999996, + "end": 2268.96, + "text": " Again, this comes from ours technical in the title here is for to get admin report active exploitation" + }, + { + "start": 2268.96, + "end": 2277.52, + "text": " zero day vendor isn't talking. This by the way is like a very scary scenario for me. This is like" + }, + { + "start": 2277.52, + "end": 2283.2, + "text": " a one of the worst case ones in my mind of things that keep me up at night. Please, to your summary" + }, + { + "start": 2283.7599999999998, + "end": 2292.08, + "text": " the exact timing of everything is still very unclear to me and even after I've read everything that" + }, + { + "start": 2292.08, + "end": 2301.3599999999997, + "text": " I could find about the situation sometime before October 13th, there was it was detected that" + }, + { + "start": 2301.3599999999997, + "end": 2309.2, + "text": " some adversary was exploiting a vulnerability in for the manager and effectively what" + }, + { + "start": 2309.8399999999997, + "end": 2318.0, + "text": " it relied on was and I'm oversimplifying to a fault here. So apologies, but if you connect" + }, + { + "start": 2319.04, + "end": 2327.2799999999997, + "text": " there all you need to connect a for to net firewall into a for to manager is a certificate" + }, + { + "start": 2328.08, + "end": 2335.7599999999998, + "text": " and through a vulnerability you can effectively first feed it, a for to net firewall and then" + }, + { + "start": 2335.76, + "end": 2341.76, + "text": " there was also a vulnerability in the for to net manager for to manager that would allow" + }, + { + "start": 2342.7200000000003, + "end": 2351.5200000000004, + "text": " an actor controlled or an adversary controlled firewall to run the arbitrary command on the" + }, + { + "start": 2351.5200000000004, + "end": 2359.36, + "text": " for to manager and that by the way would happen regardless. So as long as there was some way some" + }, + { + "start": 2359.36, + "end": 2364.88, + "text": " sort of connection even if it was behind that even if there was a firewall in the way if there was" + }, + { + "start": 2364.96, + "end": 2370.88, + "text": " any sort of connection activity between the for to manager and the adversary controlled" + }, + { + "start": 2371.6800000000003, + "end": 2377.04, + "text": " for to net firewall they could effectively take over the environment." + }, + { + "start": 2377.84, + "end": 2382.32, + "text": " Yeah, and to be clear the for to manager is a tool meant to manage a bunch of network equipment" + }, + { + "start": 2382.32, + "end": 2387.6, + "text": " including firewalls and it was remote code open to the internet for a lot of people. I think" + }, + { + "start": 2387.6, + "end": 2394.56, + "text": " somebody said 60,000 of these were seen was showed in. Right. Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, but what made" + }, + { + "start": 2394.56, + "end": 2405.2799999999997, + "text": " it worse is that. Fortunet was not they apparently were aware but were not publishing any information." + }, + { + "start": 2405.2799999999997, + "end": 2411.92, + "text": " Now at some point I think sometime around October 17th they allegedly are as far as I could tell." + }, + { + "start": 2412.72, + "end": 2418.08, + "text": " This is where it starts to get murky. They sent e-bails out to some subset of their customers letting" + }, + { + "start": 2418.08, + "end": 2427.12, + "text": " them know that there was an update tending and that they needed to take some kind of protective" + }, + { + "start": 2427.12, + "end": 2433.84, + "text": " or mitigating measures like moving it moving access to the for to manager from the internet and so on." + }, + { + "start": 2433.84, + "end": 2440.56, + "text": " No vulnerability disclosure. No warnings. No. They didn't say what happened or why. No sense of" + }, + { + "start": 2440.56, + "end": 2447.2, + "text": " air out it necessarily. Right. Just very mysterious and it wasn't sent to everybody as well. There's lots of" + }, + { + "start": 2447.2, + "end": 2452.64, + "text": " for to net customers saying I never got that. Now I don't know if they had the wrong contact" + }, + { + "start": 2452.64, + "end": 2459.04, + "text": " information and they tried. I have no idea but the problem here is there was some period of time" + }, + { + "start": 2459.04, + "end": 2465.8399999999997, + "text": " where this vulnerability which is very serious was under active exploitation and I think that was" + }, + { + "start": 2465.8399999999997, + "end": 2471.2, + "text": " happening before for to net became aware of it. And then even after they did become aware of it" + }, + { + "start": 2472.0, + "end": 2477.7599999999998, + "text": " I suppose started working on a fix but they were not communicating and it took a long time by" + }, + { + "start": 2477.7599999999998, + "end": 2484.72, + "text": " the way I think was only recently within the past few days that they actually published the CBE" + }, + { + "start": 2485.8399999999997, + "end": 2492.08, + "text": " that actually describes what the vulnerability is and as well as obviously releasing patches." + }, + { + "start": 2492.08, + "end": 2496.48, + "text": " So like this far as I know it is on your network on the perimeter of your network protecting you." + }, + { + "start": 2496.56, + "end": 2500.08, + "text": " As far as I know there's still been no public advisory for for it on this." + }, + { + "start": 2502.4, + "end": 2508.48, + "text": " So they did there was there is an advisory now. Oh is there now. Yeah. This article is a few days old." + }, + { + "start": 2508.48, + "end": 2516.2400000000002, + "text": " Okay. Sorry. It was on the I believe it was on the 20s. Yes. Again the timing is really weird if you" + }, + { + "start": 2516.2400000000002, + "end": 2523.12, + "text": " read it's if you go to the advice if you go to the for to net advisory it has a date of" + }, + { + "start": 2523.7599999999998, + "end": 2530.56, + "text": " October 17th but then it says October 20th is updated on October 25th and as far as I can tell" + }, + { + "start": 2530.56, + "end": 2537.04, + "text": " the first time anybody seems to become aware of it was on October 25th which was only two days ago" + }, + { + "start": 2537.04, + "end": 2543.12, + "text": " as of the time we were recording this. So again I don't exactly know the the timing. I think the" + }, + { + "start": 2543.12, + "end": 2549.68, + "text": " problem I have with this situation is just the trains the lack of transparency and when you read" + }, + { + "start": 2549.68, + "end": 2556.3999999999996, + "text": " this article like that become it kind of comes out in spades and it scares the crap out of me to have" + }, + { + "start": 2556.3999999999996, + "end": 2562.08, + "text": " to rely on this thing to protect my network when I've got to I have this level of uncertainty about" + }, + { + "start": 2562.08, + "end": 2572.24, + "text": " the status of one of my primary controls. Yeah I'm looking like in their blog look this is their" + }, + { + "start": 2572.24, + "end": 2577.2, + "text": " live so take it with a grain of salt but I'm not seeing anything jump it out of me on their website" + }, + { + "start": 2577.2, + "end": 2582.8799999999997, + "text": " on their blog. I see a nice article they've published about nation states burning zero days" + }, + { + "start": 2582.8799999999997, + "end": 2592.48, + "text": " against Avanti one of their competitors. I just pinged it to you it's in their piece. Oh okay thanks." + }, + { + "start": 2596.64, + "end": 2604.3999999999996, + "text": " Okay look at that yeah okay yeah this was published October 17th" + }, + { + "start": 2604.48, + "end": 2610.1600000000003, + "text": " I'm going to read 25th odd. Yeah but then if you go down to the if you go down to the bottom" + }, + { + "start": 2611.76, + "end": 2620.2400000000002, + "text": " it says initial publication October 23rd so that's why I say I don't understand so if you are the" + }, + { + "start": 2620.2400000000002, + "end": 2626.4, + "text": " user of Ford and Firewalls and you have a Ford a manager which you probably do and it was in any" + }, + { + "start": 2626.4, + "end": 2631.6800000000003, + "text": " way accessible from the internet which was apparently a pretty good chance that was in fact the case" + }, + { + "start": 2632.3999999999996, + "end": 2638.64, + "text": " there are a set of steps that you really should be taking to determine if you were hacked." + }, + { + "start": 2638.64, + "end": 2650.8799999999997, + "text": " The CVE was created in 927. Oh Jesus Christ September 27th. Wow. Wow. Look I'm just" + }, + { + "start": 2650.8799999999997, + "end": 2656.3199999999997, + "text": " reporting what I'm seeing so yeah that's what I got there for you. Yeah does not necessarily" + }, + { + "start": 2656.32, + "end": 2662.8, + "text": " reflect when the vulnerability is discovered okay fine but interesting because that's" + }, + { + "start": 2662.8, + "end": 2668.6400000000003, + "text": " what Ford and I requested maybe they maybe it's Clinton's maybe they had another CVE they were" + }, + { + "start": 2668.6400000000003, + "end": 2674.48, + "text": " requested and repurposed. But it's look I think the takeaways Ford and that was not being very" + }, + { + "start": 2674.48, + "end": 2683.12, + "text": " transparent here. Exactly. Yeah exactly. But credit to your amazing" + }, + { + "start": 2683.92, + "end": 2690.8, + "text": " InfoSectotic Change Masternons server on the Fediverse for participating in this situation." + }, + { + "start": 2691.76, + "end": 2696.96, + "text": " Yeah in fairness it was Kevin Boen, Kevin Bulmont who's on a different server who's really" + }, + { + "start": 2696.96, + "end": 2702.0, + "text": " leading a lot of the discussion they actually linked to his account through InfoSectotic Change" + }, + { + "start": 2702.16, + "end": 2705.44, + "text": " I didn't see that. That's what I thought that's what I thought he was on your server in my" + }, + { + "start": 2705.44, + "end": 2712.0, + "text": " bag. I think that's pretty cool. I think if it weren't for your tireless efforts" + }, + { + "start": 2712.0, + "end": 2718.88, + "text": " civilization would collapse. Totally. Well critical infrastructure at this point. I think" + }, + { + "start": 2719.6, + "end": 2724.16, + "text": " I think that you're wherever this is running should get like first priority for data risk or" + }, + { + "start": 2724.24, + "end": 2734.0, + "text": " power restoration like a hospital would. I agree. Anywho. I it all serious this like a" + }, + { + "start": 2734.0, + "end": 2740.64, + "text": " unignaloged act of the X-putted zero day on a required perimeter facing device like a firewall" + }, + { + "start": 2740.64, + "end": 2746.7999999999997, + "text": " is one of my worst fears. That's bad news bears right there. And what what could you do I mean" + }, + { + "start": 2746.7999999999997, + "end": 2750.48, + "text": " I guess in the real world if you got a sniff of it and it looks like Reddit was one of the first" + }, + { + "start": 2750.48, + "end": 2755.84, + "text": " places that started talking about this you could swap for another vendor but who's prepared to do" + }, + { + "start": 2755.84, + "end": 2764.64, + "text": " that like this is a bad not fast not as a reactionary no like that or a precautionary measure no look" + }, + { + "start": 2767.36, + "end": 2773.68, + "text": " bad things happen all the time and is like I guess we thought as we've talked about several times" + }, + { + "start": 2774.64, + "end": 2781.3599999999997, + "text": " today it all comes down to how you respond right and so if you're you would you pick a vendor like" + }, + { + "start": 2781.3599999999997, + "end": 2787.7599999999998, + "text": " this there are going to be vulnerabilities like every stinking 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defenders we have to be cognizant" + }, + { + "start": 2987.36, + "end": 2995.6000000000004, + "text": " right that we are we are really dependent on our vendors behaving and if they don't but that can" + }, + { + "start": 2995.6000000000004, + "end": 3003.2000000000003, + "text": " put us at grave exposure this means we should hand code our own firewalls each time totally just" + }, + { + "start": 3003.2000000000003, + "end": 3008.7200000000003, + "text": " like cryptography we should I think so how else we know what's secure if you don't do it yourself true" + }, + { + "start": 3009.2, + "end": 3018.56, + "text": " absolutely anyway all right I suppose I one last thing to be said I suppose as exposed to the internet" + }, + { + "start": 3018.56, + "end": 3022.9599999999996, + "text": " you don't have to like how many of these four managers need to be exposed to it I probably" + }, + { + "start": 3022.9599999999996, + "end": 3028.0, + "text": " sell them Friday but it's probably not 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it's too" + }, + { + "start": 3068.48, + "end": 3072.96, + "text": " easy to just say nobody should ever do it ever and because of your version of reality I think" + }, + { + "start": 3072.96, + "end": 3077.36, + "text": " there's probably lots of like I was reading some somebody was talking about lots of retail organizations" + }, + { + "start": 3077.36, + "end": 3081.36, + "text": " use these to manage many retail sites they have no back-end infrastructure to get to them like" + }, + { + "start": 3082.56, + "end": 3088.0, + "text": " I don't look we don't everybody's situation what I'm saying is that if you can get it off the internet" + }, + { + "start": 3088.64, + "end": 3100.48, + "text": " yeah man all right I'm happy we really have to to find some like happy puppy story or kitten" + }, + { + "start": 3100.48, + "end": 3105.6, + "text": " story to end these shows with Ellie we could just take the the whole I don't remember it was" + }, + { + "start": 3105.6, + "end": 3111.84, + 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