Transcipts_base/2025 Jeep Compass .json

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        "text": " All right, everyone, welcome back."
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    {
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        "text": " I'm John Lincove."
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        "text": " I'm Jennifer Stockberger."
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        "text": " I'm Joe Vasslack."
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        "text": " And this week we're going to be talking about the Jeep Compass, which is right now the"
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        "text": " only small SUV in the Jeep lineup because both the Renegade and Cherokee were dropped"
    },
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        "start": 28.16,
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        "text": " previously."
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    {
        "start": 29.16,
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        "text": " So, the Compass has to do double duty as a compact SUV as well as a subcompact SUV."
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        "text": " You may be wondering why we're talking about it because in 2023 there are actually some"
    },
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        "start": 40.28,
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        "text": " changes."
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    {
        "start": 41.28,
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        "text": " So, yeah, there were some thoughts of the Compass going away."
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        "text": " There were plans for a redesigned one."
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        "text": " So in 2023, Jeep gave the Compass a 200 horsepower, two liter turbocharged four cylinder"
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    {
        "start": 53.72,
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        "text": " engine, paired it with a B2B automatic transmission and gave it standard all-wheel drive."
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    {
        "start": 58.36,
        "end": 61.519999999999996,
        "text": " So, not every SUV in that category gets standard all-wheel drives."
    },
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        "end": 63.08,
        "text": " That's sort of like a selling point for them."
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        "start": 63.08,
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        "text": " Some of that category don't get all-wheel drive at all."
    },
    {
        "start": 65.28,
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        "text": " That's true."
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    {
        "start": 66.28,
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        "text": " The subcompact category, yep, a lot of them are front only."
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    {
        "start": 69.36,
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        "text": " So like I was saying, there is going to be a next generation Compass, but it's based on"
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    {
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        "text": " a global platform, the Lantis, the parent company of Alpha Romeo, Mouserade and Jeep, Chrysler,"
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    {
        "start": 79.6,
        "end": 80.6,
        "text": " et cetera."
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    {
        "start": 80.6,
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        "text": " But that's not coming to North American until 2026."
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    {
        "start": 84.24,
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        "text": " The rest of the world is going to see it in 2025."
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    {
        "start": 86.16,
        "end": 91.72,
        "text": " So we've said, you know what, with used car content that we have on Consumer Reports,"
    },
    {
        "start": 91.72,
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        "text": " .org, and in our magazine, and also just having updated ratings, time to test the Compass"
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    {
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        "text": " with that new power train."
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    {
        "start": 98.36,
        "end": 105.24,
        "text": " But Joe, in our pre-meeting, you were talking a little bit about it as the Compass gets"
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    {
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        "text": " this kind of halo effect, right?"
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    {
        "start": 107.16,
        "end": 108.16,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 108.16,
        "end": 109.16,
        "text": " And it's common."
    },
    {
        "start": 109.16,
        "end": 110.16,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 110.16,
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        "text": " So I think, yeah, you feel like you're buying into the Jeep brand, the lifestyle, the"
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    {
        "start": 116.16,
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        "text": " driving experience."
    },
    {
        "start": 117.2,
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        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 118.2,
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        "text": " And so when you're expecting to be driving something similar to a Jeep Grand Cherokee that"
    },
    {
        "start": 123.6,
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        "text": " actually drive pretty nice, rides well, steering is good, good power, power delivery."
    },
    {
        "start": 130.96,
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        "text": " Yeah, attractive."
    },
    {
        "start": 131.96,
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        "text": " Yeah, yeah, yeah."
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    {
        "start": 132.96,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " Best selling Jeep Grand Cherokee."
    },
    {
        "start": 135.96,
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        "text": " Yeah, that's your soul."
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    {
        "start": 136.96,
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        "text": " Oh, okay."
    },
    {
        "start": 137.96,
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        "text": " All right."
    },
    {
        "start": 138.96,
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        "text": " You got that."
    },
    {
        "start": 139.96,
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        "text": " Okay."
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    {
        "start": 140.96,
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        "text": " So yeah, you kind of, you're led to it to believe that you might be buying, you know,"
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        "start": 144.44,
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        "text": " something that drives similar to a Grand Cherokee, but in this case, it's, it's, well,"
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    {
        "start": 149.6,
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        "text": " it's not the case here."
    },
    {
        "start": 151.16,
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        "text": " But on the, similar circumstances, we talked about the X1 or the X2 when you think you're"
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    {
        "start": 155.84,
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        "text": " getting an X3 or you're getting an X5 drivability or that, you know, driving experience, it's,"
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        "text": " it's not there."
    },
    {
        "start": 163.24,
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        "text": " It's just, you know, you're, you're kind of buying the badge."
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        "text": " Yeah, certainly."
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    {
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        "text": " I mean, we've seen it, you know, not just from BMW, but we've seen it in a lot of our,"
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        "start": 170.56,
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        "text": " the reliability data, you know, you get the entry level model when the luxury and particularly"
    },
    {
        "start": 176.72,
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        "text": " goes down, you know, and they can't be both affordable and super comfortable."
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    {
        "start": 182.6,
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        "text": " And that's not reliability."
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    {
        "start": 183.6,
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        "text": " We've also just seen those, those lower end models just have had poor reliability."
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    {
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        "text": " The luxury effect doesn't scale down very well."
    },
    {
        "start": 190.72,
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        "text": " No."
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    {
        "start": 191.72,
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        "text": " So yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 192.72,
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        "text": " Or in this case, the Jeep effect."
    },
    {
        "start": 193.72,
        "end": 194.72,
        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 194.72,
        "end": 195.72,
        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 195.72,
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        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 196.72,
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        "text": " You know, and it's got all the little logos and a little Sasquatch and the little Jeep crawling"
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    {
        "start": 198.72,
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        "text": " in the Easter eggs, if you will, but Easter eggs don't make a good vehicle, you know."
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    {
        "start": 203.6,
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        "text": " But you know, there are a number of positives with it."
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    {
        "start": 206.28,
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        "text": " You know, it's, we like hard controls to the climate system, you know, too many people"
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    {
        "start": 209.72,
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        "text": " or too many manufacturers throwing them into the touchscreen."
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    {
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        "text": " Audio controls in the back of the steering wheel, Jeep, Stellantis Chrysler, I mean, you"
    },
    {
        "start": 216.68,
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        "text": " know, it's across the brand."
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    {
        "start": 217.76,
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        "text": " They do that really well, I think, in a number of, yeah, like that."
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        "text": " Like one of my favorite parts of the controls in Stellantis products."
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    {
        "start": 224.6,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
        "start": 225.6,
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        "text": " And they've done it for years."
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        "start": 226.6,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " They perfected."
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        "text": " What's your guys' opinion on passing power?"
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        "text": " You know, you're driven it."
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    {
        "start": 232.68,
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        "text": " You know, it's, it's sometimes you get little, you know, peakyness and such."
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    {
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        "text": " We could talk about that."
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        "text": " But does it have the oomph to get down the road when you're cruising along?"
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        "text": " You know, sometimes it's big delays, etc."
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        "text": " Yes."
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        "text": " So, so first of all, in comparison to other vehicles, it's not a super powerful power train,"
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        "text": " but compared to the outgoing compass so much better."
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        "text": " Again, you said this went to a turbo, etc."
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    {
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        "text": " That to me makes this a much more livable vehicle because you do have the power."
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    {
        "start": 265.72,
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        "text": " We used words like, um, laxed a days of cold response."
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        "start": 269.92,
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        "text": " So it was just mediocre power."
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    {
        "start": 273.0,
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        "text": " It does, it's fine now."
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        "text": " Again, it's not going to blow you away, but this is much more power than the outgoing"
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        "text": " and much, much better."
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        "text": " And this compass, the old compass was the lowest rated and we're talking a road test"
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        "text": " score, not reliability and safety and all that, but road test score in this class."
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    {
        "start": 293.36,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " So it didn't do very well."
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    {
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        "text": " So it had, had room to move for sure."
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        "text": " Absolutely."
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        "text": " You agreed."
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        "text": " The old 2.4 was kind of a dog."
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    {
        "start": 301.56,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
        "start": 302.56,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " Sure."
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    {
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        "text": " When did, yeah, I agree with what everything Jen said."
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        "text": " It does, you know, it's an improvement on power, especially mid range."
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        "text": " I think it does, you know, for most people and daily driving it as enough power for what"
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        "text": " you need."
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    {
        "start": 314.56,
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        "text": " I mean, we're kind of now with EVs and everything."
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    {
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        "text": " Everything's so fast today that when you jump in a car that, you know, is an improvement"
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    {
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        "text": " on the past, it still feels slow and right Harrison, but that being said, it's still"
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        "text": " adequate for today and, you know, most, most driving situations."
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        "text": " The transmission is where things start to, you know, get hung up and that's when you"
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        "text": " start."
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        "text": " It's the power delivery."
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        "text": " Not getting the power when you need it or when you want it, especially in rolling"
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        "text": " stops, traffic, you're trying to pull out and maybe timing that is kind of crucial and"
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    {
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        "text": " sometimes that delayed downshift, they'll throw you off and leave you a little stranded."
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        "start": 353.0,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " We do see that often with these small turbo fours, even if it's got a hybrid, a powertrain"
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        "text": " or it's a plug-in hybrid, you know, there is a odd transition in many vehicles where"
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    {
        "start": 365.08,
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        "text": " we're continuing."
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        "text": " It's not a one time thing."
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        "text": " And it is that rolling stop, Joe, you hit the nail on the head."
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        "text": " It's that rolling stop where you then start again and it goes, Oh, man, what did you do?"
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        "text": " I don't know where I'm supposed to be."
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        "text": " One other thing on this car, too, transmission-related power delivery related is the stop start system."
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        "text": " I am often tempted or physically do shut off the start stops when they're very delayed,"
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    {
        "start": 389.12,
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        "text": " they're tugging on my steering wheel, whatever it is."
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    {
        "start": 391.88,
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        "text": " This is really done."
    },
    {
        "start": 392.88,
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        "text": " Well, I had no temptation to shut down."
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    {
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        "text": " Shut off that stop start system in this car."
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        "text": " Yeah, it seems like kicks in and quickly, too."
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    {
        "start": 400.12,
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        "text": " Yes."
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    {
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        "text": " You don't have that delay, you don't feel as if you, you know, you have to torque the wheel"
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        "text": " just to get the engine going."
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        "text": " The other thing, too, on the power delivery is I am always judging how comfortable am I"
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        "text": " jumping out into already moving traffic."
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        "text": " And there are many cars where I'm like, this is a little disconcerting, not going to"
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    {
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        "text": " do that or I'm going to leave a lot more."
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    {
        "start": 421.88,
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        "text": " I did not have that in this new compass."
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    {
        "start": 424.28,
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        "text": " Would have likely absolutely had it in the old."
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    {
        "start": 427.2,
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        "text": " Car I drove in today, we won't talk about it, but it's up in the, it's probably $70,000"
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        "text": " range, as of e6."
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    {
        "start": 433.2,
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        "text": " And yeah, it's what I was, you know, if you back out, it's very, very troublesome with"
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    {
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        "text": " that, but also just pulling out into traffic and you're nosing out, especially trying"
    },
    {
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        "text": " to get the kids to school."
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    {
        "start": 443.0,
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        "text": " So there's a lot of people going the same direction and you try to pull through that, I don't"
    },
    {
        "start": 446.12,
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        "text": " want to be hung out when people are going 50 miles an hour, cut forwards."
    },
    {
        "start": 448.96,
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        "text": " You want to jump into that and go, oh shoot."
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    {
        "start": 450.88,
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        "text": " Yep."
    },
    {
        "start": 451.88,
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        "text": " I can't get up to speed."
    },
    {
        "start": 452.88,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
        "start": 453.88,
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        "text": " For sure."
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    {
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        "text": " A couple other places that we really like, you know, we've talked about the stop start."
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        "text": " You connect, it's not necessarily riding on its laurels, but it was a good system for"
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        "text": " years."
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    {
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        "text": " It's, you know, we've seen some, some other systems maybe score better."
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    {
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        "text": " But we do like the fact that on the home screen, a, it's got a nice ability to move with"
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    {
        "start": 470.52,
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        "text": " this touch and drag tiles in or features in, so you have a, a, a favorite area."
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    {
        "start": 475.44,
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        "text": " But also just that screen, thankfully, yeah, it's so big."
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    {
        "start": 478.6,
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        "text": " It's a shape forward."
    },
    {
        "start": 479.6,
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        "text": " It, it, it, it's not cluttered unlike recent small SUVs like the Alpharmate, the, the"
    },
    {
        "start": 485.72,
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        "text": " Tonale and the Dodge Hornet."
    },
    {
        "start": 487.44,
        "end": 488.44,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 488.44,
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        "text": " Very small screen, you know, very cluttered, very hard to operate."
    },
    {
        "start": 491.48,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 492.48,
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        "text": " And especially when you have a choppy ride and you're trying to land on the icons, yeah,"
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        "text": " I'm hosting here."
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        "text": " Hey, hey, hey, hey, if you want to take the scene, that's really cool."
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        "text": " Yeah, I don't know."
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        "text": " You touched on something else, John, when you were talking about you connect to is one"
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        "text": " I can have a tile of shortcuts."
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    {
        "start": 622.8,
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " Isn't this nice that I've heated steering wheel, heated seats?"
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        "text": " What's the best car I can get?"
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        "text": " Apple car play."
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        "text": " I was like, I've never thought that, you know, we live and breathe the brand and model."
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    {
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        "text": " Right."
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        "start": 654.4,
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        "text": " But this person just wanted heated seats in a heated steering wheel."
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        "text": " It was very interesting to hear someone saying, I know it'll get me there."
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        "text": " What I want the livability site daily."
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        "text": " They're going to hold on to it for a long time."
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        "text": " They want to have something that lives with their first stains."
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        "text": " What's that lifestyle?"
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        "text": " But also some like blind spot warning and rear cross traffic warning."
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        "text": " Standard."
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        "text": " Toyota RAV4, not Subaru Farser, not, you know, so these are some, you know, vehicles"
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        "text": " that score high in our road tests."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " They, you know, they get those added points, but they do get knocked because they don't"
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        "text": " have those standard equipment."
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    {
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        "text": " Correct."
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        "text": " So they'll get extra points when we test it and score it."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Like they'll pad the front of the dash, but not the door handle or, so it's an interesting"
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        "text": " high, it's kind of the highest because the other high trim that's only a few hundred"
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        "text": " Yeah, trail hawks."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " I get in a car after you and then, yeah, we'll see how, so how was it for you?"
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        "text": " more important to me when I have all the controls within reach."
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        "text": " So I'm going to adjust the ability, rather than feeling the confinement, right?"
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        "text": " So father is me, father me as much, but I felt the head restrained."
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        "text": " I think if you get used to it, but, and you know, this is, and you can't push it forward."
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        "text": " This one you can't, but it really, I guess the only thing you could say is people might"
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        "text": " and then is at the feeding it."
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        "text": " a barette or something, you're going to feel that it's, it's going to funny."
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        "text": " It's going to be a lot of damage."
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        "text": " We break it in, break in the engine, break in the tires."
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        "text": " The turn signal, the stock quality is very plasticgy, cheap feeling or reward."
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        "text": " I went, oh my gosh."
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        "text": " I thought I had a light bulb out."
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        "text": " A couple of other, the recent cars have that, the same sound."
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        "text": " it all the way, it does like for five or six."
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        "text": " So you're trying to just extra."
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        "text": " You think you'd left it on."
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        "text": " And don't leave it on with that sound."
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        "text": " It's so loud and annoying."
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        "start": 1048.4399999999998,
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        "text": " Weird little logos."
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    },
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        "text": " So if you're going to spend all the time doing Easter eggs, put a logo on it that you can"
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    },
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        "start": 1060.56,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " It's minor, but it's sort of like, these are little things."
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        "text": " It looks better than it behaves in terms of fit and finish."
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        "text": " That's just kind of a little over the top."
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        "start": 1091.1599999999999,
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        "text": " Joe, give us a moment."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " So what's going on with that?"
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        "text": " I feel like it's got sunglasses on or something."
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        "text": " When you go into the first, yeah, exactly."
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        "text": " At night, that's..."
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        "text": " Tell me the same."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " You feel like you can't rely on it."
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        "text": " So you get back to traditional mirrors and actually maybe checking before you get in your"
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        "text": " There's definitely some performance issues there, which I would assume is an equipment thing"
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        "text": " that could be..."
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        "text": " That would be an interesting thing to find out."
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        "text": " What is it?"
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        "text": " It's just low quality cameras and software."
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        "text": " We were joking about it in the sense of you have to ride your brake pedal to illuminate"
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        "text": " whatever you can behind and maybe bounce it off the house or building behind just to"
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        "text": " get some kind of depth perception."
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        "text": " No."
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        "text": " To see anything."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " That this one kind of stands out."
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        "text": " It's not a good way."
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        "text": " Like you said, crazy competitive."
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        "text": " I'll touch on something might be a little weird though."
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        "text": " So that's almost, that's the numbers you gave 81% of the vehicles recommended."
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        "text": " So what does that mean for us here at CR?"
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        "text": " Does it mean time to re-evaluate ratings?"
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        "text": " You know, and we've had that in other categories."
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        "text": " You know, it used to be family sedans and large sedans."
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        "text": " Now those categories are shrinking though."
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        "text": " Hyundai, it's not a, but now that there's so many small SUVs, compact SUVs, what does"
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        "text": " And we have up to that scale in the past."
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        "text": " Over time."
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        "text": " Yeah, it's so competitive."
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        "text": " No one's really, no one sleeps here at the in-ness segment."
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        "text": " It just shows you how much attention's being paid where it's just everything's so competitive"
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        "text": " And not as much on the larger or sometimes whatever segments there is out there, but these"
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        "text": " high volume, it's just crucial to have, you know, be that competitive."
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        "text": " Large pickups, there's no question there's volume there."
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        "text": " Sure."
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        "start": 1350.24,
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        "text": " But they're never going to meet the balance that these vehicles do."
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        "start": 1352.76,
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " Definitely."
    },
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        "text": " And you're talking about your look at, I mean, it's interesting."
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        "text": " You look at where our plug-in hybrids, for example, playing, they're playing right in"
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        "text": " that segment."
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " And the most, you know, most of the offerings in the SUVs, not the bigger, not, and certainly"
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        "text": " not the subcompact."
    },
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        "text": " So certainly, certainly competitive vehicle."
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        "text": " Joe, if you want to wean yourself off the Jeep brand because, you know, you've bought"
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        "text": " a renegade, a compass, a grand Cherokee, you know, whatever, your family is a Jeep,"
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        "text": " you know, and there are a lot of people there, you know, I'm a Ford guy."
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        "text": " I'm a Jeep guy, whatever a gal."
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        "text": " Being before you leave you off the Biar Wrangler, then you can leave the Jeep brand."
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        "text": " What are you doing?"
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        "text": " You're getting a track."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " So, yeah, that's a tough one because I guess it's something you're going to have to just"
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        "text": " If that's the case, then you go for the RAV, you go for the Forester, you go for the CRV,"
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        "text": " The fudge is, I love it."
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        "text": " Yeah, the fun and the misery, right?"
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        "text": " It's a jackele and hide."
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        "text": " You know, that vehicle doesn't come without big compromise."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " And I think most of the owners that stick with them know that and, you know, I love the,"
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " You know, after I have to drive on the highway or something like that."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " And everyone else is like, uh, super market."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " They're all carry the kids around."
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        "text": " And it's as if this compass is like, okay, yeah, we have the version that can do that."
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        "text": " So you could go for one of those, but is it a poser?"
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " You know, if you go for the farrester top out, dorsi trim, or you're like, you just wanted"
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        "text": " So online we have a first drive of the Jeep Compass and it's getting up to 2000 miles, so"
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        "text": " where it falls into that now 32 vehicle list of small SUVs."
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        "text": " from Jerry."
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        "text": " Lucky Jerry."
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        "text": " Lucky Jerry."
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        "text": " Jerry says, I recently purchased a set of new tires from my 2002 Toyota Echo and was offered"
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        "text": " to enhance traction and wet conditions."
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        "text": " I'm also told it can improve braking distance and handling when cornering."
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        "text": " Even though I'd never heard of it, I went ahead and did it, but now I'm wondering if"
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        "text": " So Jerry, not only did I start at CR in 2002, so your Echo is as old as my 10 year here."
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        "text": " We got to love the little Echo member."
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        "text": " We used it for a child seat car for a long time."
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        "text": " We had it at Little Red, Echo, it was cute."
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        "text": " So Jerry, so typically this action of SIPING, which is exactly right, it's the cutting"
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        "text": " the advantages is for winter traction, which is why people are doing it."
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        "text": " I don't want to scare you, Jerry, you're probably fine."
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        "text": " I'm not sure where you live, but yeah, you have not voided any manufacturer warranty in"
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        "text": " There you go, Jerry."
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        "text": " Let us know if you can send us send us a little more information."
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        "text": " It'll be interesting to find out, particularly where you live."
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        "text": " We're going to go to our second question, jet from Bud Lake, New Jersey."
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        "text": " I don't take my tests for my provisional license until next year, but I was looking at"
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        "text": " Thank you for your help and keep on talking cars."
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        "text": " So while we can't help you necessarily the decent shape, but certainly want to find something"
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        "text": " Joe, we're going to go to Jen first just because she and loads of the, so much of the team car list."
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        "text": " I'm not offended."
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        "text": " All of the vehicles in our lists have that and why you see differences in model year from"
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        "text": " My pick for you based on everything you listed and because it has the most model years."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " I didn't know that was going to suggest that so I don't have that number in front of me."
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        "text": " Oh, that's great."
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        "text": " So I'd pick a 2014 Honda Civic and I think that encompasses everything he's asking for"
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        "text": " Are you saying my Prius is not?"
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        "text": " Yes."
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        "text": " So if you want to impress your friend, don't get it."
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        "text": " It was an actual 2014, so I stick with that."
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        "text": " It seems like that that era is a really good era because I was looking at the 2013 Mazda"
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " I had two because I was a huge eye-catching issue."
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        "text": " Jet, hope that works for you."
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        "text": " Let us know what you choose."
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        "text": " Still enjoying it."
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        "text": " Yeah, I think so."
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        "text": " You have the answer, my question."
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        "text": " Yeah, what are your cars doing?"
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        "text": " Yeah, doing acceleration."
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        "text": " We weren't doing eight ass, you know, it pays, you know, we, it's just, there's so many"
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        "text": " things going on at the same time."
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        "text": " But I do remember taking, we had a Porsche here and doing on the straight away."
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        "text": " I think I, I was like, I'm six, you know, like, and you get into that 500 foot point."
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        "text": " You're saying, that's, that's a fence."
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        "text": " It's not a catch fence, like a race track."
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        "text": " You know, it's not a sand trap."
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        "text": " It's grass and it's wet."
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        "text": " It like, I remember that one, but also just little things like we've done Jim Connough,"
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        "text": " you know, we've done auto cross and stuff like that."
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        "text": " The ability to do that is super cool as well."
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        "start": 2423.94,
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        "text": " So, and the fact that we're able to do the street survival class with, with team drivers,"
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        "text": " with young drivers, you know, we have a facility that is, is safe and facility that's, that's"
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        "text": " big enough to do all that."
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    {
        "start": 2433.94,
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " It's our parking lot with light stanchions in the middle of it or something like that."
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        "text": " So I think, I mean, those are, those are all the cool aspects of it."
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        "text": " We just had a neat thing when Ryan and Gordon finished it."
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        "text": " The, like you say, the auto cross when they finished their tire wet handling, they left"
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        "text": " to the wedded auto cross really."
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    {
        "start": 2450.14,
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        "text": " And let other members of our team go out and just try it because you, like you say, the"
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    {
        "start": 2455.66,
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        "text": " cars go through quickly and there's more people who need them for different aspects."
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    {
        "start": 2459.5,
        "end": 2464.9,
        "text": " And not everybody gets to get in and experience some of that stuff like we used to in the past."
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    {
        "start": 2464.9,
        "end": 2465.9,
        "text": " So it's great."
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        "start": 2465.9,
        "end": 2469.3399999999997,
        "text": " That exact day we were doing the Lexus GX first try video."
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    {
        "start": 2469.3399999999997,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
        "start": 2470.3399999999997,
        "end": 2473.22,
        "text": " So I didn't get to do that because we were using another part of the track."
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    {
        "start": 2473.22,
        "end": 2475.3799999999997,
        "text": " So yeah, it is, it's an impressive facility."
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        "text": " It is."
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        "text": " To your point, many manufacturers come and do are impressed by it."
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        "start": 2479.42,
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        "text": " Next."
    },
    {
        "start": 2480.42,
        "end": 2481.58,
        "text": " So that'll do it for this episode."
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