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        "text": " Hi everybody, welcome to another episode on Mike Monticello."
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    {
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        "text": " I'm Ryan Pizlikaowsky."
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        "text": " And I'm Jennifer Stockburger."
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        "text": " So today we're going to spend most of our time talking about our first impressions of"
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        "text": " the all-new 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser, which is a pretty iconic model for decades."
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        "text": " The quick overview is the new version is smaller, it's less expensive and should be significantly"
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        "text": " more fuel efficient than the Alco Inversion, which was last sold in North America for the"
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        "start": 37.68,
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        "text": " 2021 model year."
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        "start": 38.68,
        "end": 44.28,
        "text": " So it has a little bit of a hiatus and now it's back and it's all new, quick spoiler alert."
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        "text": " It uses a turbocharged four-cylinder hybrid powertrain."
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        "text": " So that's a huge difference."
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        "text": " So we're going to get into all of that as we go forward."
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        "text": " But before we kind of tell you everything we think you want to know about the Land Cruiser,"
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        "text": " let's just start with what we bought."
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        "text": " Our first impressions are kind of based partially on a version that we rented, but also on this"
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        "text": " version that we purchased."
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        "text": " And I think most of you know, but if you don't, we only test vehicles that we purchase"
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        "text": " and we purchase everything anonymously."
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        "text": " If we don't purchase it, then we don't test it."
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        "text": " So that one that we rented from Toyota, we would never test."
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        "text": " But anyway, so, and for example, one thing we wouldn't do with our test model is take"
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        "text": " on our rock hill until we're totally through testing."
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        "text": " And but we were able to do that with the rented version."
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        "text": " Right."
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    {
        "start": 91.84,
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        "text": " So, okay, so what did we bought?"
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        "text": " We bought a, the second tier version, which is just called Land Cruiser versus the base"
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        "text": " 1958 model."
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        "text": " And our test model was equipped with a few optional features that most notable is the premium"
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        "text": " package, which brings things like a 14 speaker audio system, a JBL premium audio system,"
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        "text": " wireless charging, leather seats, power sunroof, a cool box in the center console, a"
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        "text": " head up display and lane changes sists, which is kind of a neat feature."
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        "text": " And along with a few other minor options, plus the $1395 destination charge, the total"
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        "text": " price of our Land Cruiser that we're going to be putting through our test program is $6,9,770."
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        "text": " Just let that sink in."
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        "text": " Actually, but that's a lot, 69,000."
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        "text": " That's a lot cheaper than the last version."
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        "text": " That's part of what they're trying to do here is really make this a more affordable."
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        "text": " It had just gotten, it had gotten, you know, besides getting long into"
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        "text": " the tooth, it had gotten just way too expensive."
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        "text": " And they got Lexus up there hovering above it."
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        "text": " Like what do you do?"
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        "text": " $100,000 Toyota that's now Lexus."
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        "start": 152.16,
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        "text": " Right."
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        "start": 153.16,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " We're also happy to see you figure out and they did."
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        "text": " It seems."
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        "text": " Yep."
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        "text": " We're also happy to see that the 2024 Land Cruiser has a full suite of standard active"
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        "text": " safety and driver assistance features."
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        "text": " We're talking automatic emergency braking with pedestrian cyclists and motorcycle detection,"
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        "text": " automatic emergency braking that operates at highway speeds, blind spot warning, rear"
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        "text": " cross-travel warning, reverse automatic emergency braking and something that is dear to"
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        "text": " your heart, gen automatic eye beams."
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        "text": " I say that because Gen was the in charge of our head like testing program for a long"
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        "text": " time."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " Okay."
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        "text": " So, let's, before we get into the one that we purchased and the first impression, let's"
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        "text": " take us down memory lane, Ryan Tellus, for those people that maybe don't know much about"
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        "text": " the Land Cruiser, like I said, it is a pretty iconic model."
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        "text": " I think that's fair, right?"
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        "text": " Just give us a little history of it."
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        "text": " I would say it's definitely iconic and it didn't look anything like it does today."
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        "text": " I mean, things evolve, but it was back in, when they first came out, it was like a Jeep,"
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        "text": " basically."
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        "text": " These originated in Japan in like the early 50s."
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        "text": " They can come here to like 57 or so."
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        "text": " 50s, isn't that the name?"
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        "text": " The trim?"
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    {
        "start": 217.64,
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        "text": " Yeah, right."
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    {
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        "text": " So, you're such a model, you're a particular detail."
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        "text": " It's different from the details."
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        "text": " And that's what it alludes to, right?"
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        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
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        "text": " No, that's right."
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        "text": " And the term FJ, we always hear of the FJ Cruiser that they did eventually, but there"
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        "text": " was FJ 2040, all the series, as they went along."
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        "text": " And it was the F-type engine."
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        "text": " It was a flat or an inline six cylinder, various displacements over the years."
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        "text": " And then J, which I learned recently was actually the body style, which was Jeep."
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        "text": " They did the Jeep body style, right?"
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        "text": " So they went throughout all the years and then it evolved from this little off-road,"
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        "text": " real-based Jeep like thing to, well, the last one we tested in 2008 was basically a"
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        "text": " Tahoe that goes through the woods, right?"
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        "text": " I mean, there was a huge V8, like it was not."
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        "text": " And three rows of seats."
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        "text": " Yeah, yeah."
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        "text": " Big and heavy."
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        "text": " And luxury vehicle where, well, we'll talk about it, but this is a little bit different"
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        "text": " than that."
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        "text": " So, it's iconic."
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        "text": " I mean, it's like the Jeep Heritage or the Bronco Heritage and something like that."
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        "text": " Right."
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    {
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        "text": " So, that's kind of the history."
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        "text": " Jen, let's talk about, you know, what we're here to really talk about is the new model,"
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        "text": " the 2024 completely redesigned."
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        "text": " Tell us kind of what's new and different with this one."
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        "text": " Well, I think any of you both already alluded to a lot of it, but when is the last time"
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        "text": " we had a vehicle or anybody bought a new vehicle that was smaller, less expensive and more"
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        "text": " fuel efficient?"
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        "text": " Well, we get that a lot, but more than the version before."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " I mean, you think about it."
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        "text": " Everything's gotten bigger."
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        "text": " Everything's gotten beefier."
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        "text": " Everything's gotten more expensive."
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        "text": " This one actually came into a more moderate, I won't even say modest because it's really"
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        "text": " not price range."
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        "text": " The biggest change, Ryan, just is the powertrain."
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        "text": " This went from this huge 5.7 liter, not a little V8, big V8, to a 2.4 liter, 326th"
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        "text": " her, of course, power turbocharged 4."
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        "text": " Hybrid."
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        "text": " Yeah, and add that on."
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        "text": " That's a big change in my mind."
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        "text": " Six speed to eight speed."
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        "text": " Our Land Cruiser got 14 miles per gallon to the 2008 version we tested."
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        "text": " It's now EPA rated at 23 combined."
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        "start": 344.8,
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        "text": " Right."
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        "start": 345.8,
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        "text": " And of course, we asked part of our test program, like we do with every vehicle, we will"
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        "text": " put it through our own fuel economy testing, which will probably be similar to the EPA"
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        "text": " ratings, but we always like to do our own."
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        "text": " The other thing is that it's still got its off-road elements."
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        "text": " What I think the differences are, is they're much more technologically driven."
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        "text": " We talked about the one we rented, with all these, you can pick auto, dirt, sand,"
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        "text": " all the different terrain models."
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        "text": " All the different terrain settings, it's got traction control, it's got a disc, you can"
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        "text": " dislocate if that's the right word, the unstable laser bar, the key tires on the ground, and"
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        "text": " even terrain."
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        "text": " So all of that."
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        "text": " And then finally, you are, you said it, the safety additions."
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        "text": " Because we know for Toyota that Toyota safety sense packaging, blind spot warning, we're"
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        "text": " across traffic warning, standard, which they weren't always."
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        "text": " But to me, those are the three things that would drive wanting to get a newer version."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " And it sounds to me like what you're saying, Jen, is we're talking about a fully modern"
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        "text": " Grand Cruiser."
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        "text": " That's what this is all about."
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        "text": " But now, so those are the specs, but what's it like out in the real world, right?"
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        "text": " Now, Ryan, I feel like I know that you have an affinity for land rovers and other types"
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        "text": " of off-road vehicles."
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        "start": 426.88,
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        "text": " Is that correct?"
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        "text": " That's correct."
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        "text": " So, I feel like a Land Cruiser kind of fits into your vein of comfortable off-roaders"
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        "text": " that kind of have some caches to them."
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        "text": " What do you think of the new version, the new Land Cruiser?"
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        "text": " So I like it a lot."
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        "text": " Going back to what Jen was talking about, the downsides of it and whatnot."
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        "text": " It kind of went back getting back to what's roots a little more."
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        "text": " I mean, yeah, it's a hybrid and that's a very progressive for an off-road vehicle."
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    {
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        "text": " But it's smaller."
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    {
        "start": 457.52,
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        "text": " They put all the locking differentials back in there and disconnecting sway bar."
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    {
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        "text": " It's got all the goodies in there that make you feel like you're in an off-road vehicle."
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        "text": " It looks much better, I think."
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    {
        "start": 469.08,
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        "text": " We don't weigh our ratings on looks, but for me, I think it looks amazing."
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        "text": " I will say I wish we got the round headlight."
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        "text": " We have the R version."
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        "start": 478.6,
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        "text": " The version we purchased doesn't have."
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    {
        "start": 480.6,
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        "text": " That's the triple Z-MMD."
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    {
        "start": 482.6,
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        "text": " We probably would do someize that the ones we have, the headlights we have,"
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    {
        "start": 487.6,
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        "text": " would be better than the round ones."
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    {
        "start": 489.6,
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        "text": " They have some technology like swivel, the curve adaptive, they have things like that,"
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    {
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        "text": " and they have leveling."
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    {
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        "text": " I still want the round ones anyway."
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    {
        "start": 498.6,
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        "text": " The round ones are more in a stop."
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    {
        "start": 500.6,
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        "text": " Yeah, and then just driving it, I mean, it drives like a little truck."
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    {
        "start": 503.6,
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        "text": " It's got some body roll and a steering isn't like super sharp."
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    {
        "start": 506.6,
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        "text": " It shouldn't be, I think."
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    {
        "start": 509.6,
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        "text": " It's a Toyota hybrid powertrain, which I think has always been great."
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    {
        "start": 515.6,
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        "text": " This one's not perfect, I will say."
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    {
        "start": 517.6,
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        "text": " I notice a few things that were even a little different than the one we had rented."
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        "text": " But it's got tons of power."
    },
    {
        "start": 523.6,
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        "text": " It's a scooter right along."
    },
    {
        "start": 524.6,
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        "text": " It's not a light vehicle either, but it moves right along."
    },
    {
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        "text": " I'm excited to take it off road a little bit."
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        "start": 528.6,
        "end": 529.6,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 529.6,
        "end": 530.6,
        "text": " What should we all do?"
    },
    {
        "start": 530.6,
        "end": 531.6,
        "text": " I do have a little..."
    },
    {
        "start": 531.6,
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        "text": " I do think ahead at like, I mean, some of these vehicles, they can drive through water and whatnot,"
    },
    {
        "start": 536.6,
        "end": 540.6,
        "text": " and doing that with a hybrid system makes me a little uneasy, but I don't know, we'll find out."
    },
    {
        "start": 540.6,
        "end": 542.6,
        "text": " I will say, you talked about the looks."
    },
    {
        "start": 542.6,
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        "text": " We have so many different cars."
    },
    {
        "start": 544.6,
        "end": 550.6,
        "text": " It's not often that a car elicits such a, hey, what is that?"
    },
    {
        "start": 550.6,
        "end": 551.6,
        "text": " I agree."
    },
    {
        "start": 551.6,
        "end": 552.6,
        "text": " I agree."
    },
    {
        "start": 552.6,
        "end": 554.6,
        "text": " Yeah, you definitely were getting some of that."
    },
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        "start": 554.6,
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        "text": " I had a lovely color."
    },
    {
        "start": 555.6,
        "end": 557.6,
        "text": " I was going to say that I think that blue is helping."
    },
    {
        "start": 557.6,
        "end": 558.6,
        "text": " It's beautiful."
    },
    {
        "start": 558.6,
        "end": 561.6,
        "text": " I was lucky enough I had it over the whole day weekend."
    },
    {
        "start": 561.6,
        "end": 567.6,
        "text": " I got three waves from two new, all the encroors, said the new one, and an old one."
    },
    {
        "start": 567.6,
        "end": 570.6,
        "text": " Like a FJ 40, going back to the 70s."
    },
    {
        "start": 570.6,
        "end": 572.6,
        "text": " I was like, oh, all right."
    },
    {
        "start": 572.6,
        "end": 576.6,
        "text": " Usually people are like, the purest are like, hey, you know, but it was pretty cool."
    },
    {
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        "text": " Let me know."
    },
    {
        "start": 577.6,
        "end": 579.6,
        "text": " Let me know if you get away from a Wrangler person."
    },
    {
        "start": 579.6,
        "end": 583.6,
        "text": " No, I got a middle finger at the time."
    },
    {
        "start": 583.6,
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        "text": " Okay, so Ryan's pretty high on it."
    },
    {
        "start": 586.6,
        "end": 592.6,
        "text": " You know, are there some things that maybe aren't quite jelling with you with this new land cruiser?"
    },
    {
        "start": 592.6,
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        "text": " Yeah, so here's the thing."
    },
    {
        "start": 593.6,
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        "text": " It's not that I dislike the land cruiser."
    },
    {
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        "text": " It's that I think for this vehicle owners buyers certainly need to manage their expectations."
    },
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        "start": 604.6,
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        "text": " Because they're selling out $70,000."
    },
    {
        "start": 607.6,
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        "text": " If they're on like, if they look at purely at the styling go, I just love that vehicle."
    },
    {
        "start": 611.6,
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        "text": " I'm going to get that at $70,000, but I think if you're thinking it's going to be a luxury vehicle,"
    },
    {
        "start": 617.6,
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        "text": " those people will be very disappointed."
    },
    {
        "start": 620.6,
        "end": 623.6,
        "text": " It's underpinning that are a truck."
    },
    {
        "start": 623.6,
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        "text": " It rides like a truck."
    },
    {
        "start": 624.6,
        "end": 625.6,
        "text": " It sounds like a truck."
    },
    {
        "start": 625.6,
        "end": 626.6,
        "text": " It handles like a truck."
    },
    {
        "start": 626.6,
        "end": 627.6,
        "text": " I love it."
    },
    {
        "start": 627.6,
        "end": 628.6,
        "text": " Which Ryan loves."
    },
    {
        "start": 628.6,
        "end": 629.6,
        "text": " But not for $70,000."
    },
    {
        "start": 629.6,
        "end": 632.6,
        "text": " But for $70,000, that's all I'm saying."
    },
    {
        "start": 632.6,
        "end": 635.6,
        "text": " There is notable role."
    },
    {
        "start": 635.6,
        "end": 639.6,
        "text": " My kids used to say, you know, this is a sick car."
    },
    {
        "start": 639.6,
        "end": 641.6,
        "text": " Meaning they were getting motion sick in the back."
    },
    {
        "start": 641.6,
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        "text": " I wonder if somebody's kids are going to be going, this is a sick car."
    },
    {
        "start": 645.6,
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        "text": " You know, things like that, if you're not using it for off-roading,"
    },
    {
        "start": 650.6,
        "end": 652.6,
        "text": " I'm not sure people are going to be pleased."
    },
    {
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        "text": " I think they just need to know."
    },
    {
        "start": 654.6,
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        "text": " If they're going in with eyes wide open, like I just love this, I'm going to take it."
    },
    {
        "start": 658.6,
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        "text": " This is the next vehicle I will see all over Martha's Vineyard in one."
    },
    {
        "start": 662.6,
        "end": 663.6,
        "text": " No, yeah, yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 663.6,
        "end": 664.6,
        "text": " It will be a ton of them."
    },
    {
        "start": 664.6,
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        "text": " I think, just thank you."
    },
    {
        "start": 665.6,
        "end": 666.6,
        "text": " I think that you're right."
    },
    {
        "start": 666.6,
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        "text": " I think for me, I'm almost fine with, like it's really hard to have both really awesome"
    },
    {
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        "text": " off-road capabilities and really good on-road capabilities."
    },
    {
        "start": 676.6,
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        "text": " It's very difficult."
    },
    {
        "start": 677.6,
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        "text": " I think Range Rover is maybe one of the rare exceptions."
    },
    {
        "start": 681.6,
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        "text": " Of course, that's even more money, but that they are able to do both."
    },
    {
        "start": 685.6,
        "end": 687.6,
        "text": " But it's so it's really hard to do that."
    },
    {
        "start": 687.6,
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        "text": " So I would almost give them a pass on the ride and the handling."
    },
    {
        "start": 692.6,
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        "text": " But what I can't give them a pass, I'm just saying."
    },
    {
        "start": 695.6,
        "end": 697.6,
        "text": " And we'll get to it because we haven't really gotten into it."
    },
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        "start": 697.6,
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        "text": " But I can't give them a pass on the powertrain because when you're going from a super smooth,"
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    {
        "start": 702.6,
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        "text": " awesome, luscious V8 to this thing, it feels very trucky at times."
    },
    {
        "start": 710.6,
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        "text": " It comes across as unrefined."
    },
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        "text": " I think it's a big jump from people."
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        "start": 715.6,
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        "text": " Anyone who bought the last Land Cruiser to go to this one, it's going to be a big jump in terms of the powertrain"
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        "text": " because there's just some issues with it."
    },
    {
        "start": 723.6,
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        "text": " It can be a bit jumpy off the line during full stops and then there's some hesitation during rolling stops."
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        "text": " And I think that's partially because of the hybrid."
    },
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        "start": 732.6,
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        "text": " Because it's really, I don't want to say it's a little bit aggressive when it turns the engine off."
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        "text": " Before you can notice that."
    },
    {
        "start": 739.6,
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        "text": " Before you get to the stop, right?"
    },
    {
        "start": 741.6,
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        "text": " So now, but if you're doing a rolling stop and you're getting going again,"
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    {
        "start": 744.6,
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        "text": " now there's this moment where the gas engine's off and it's not capable of it."
    },
    {
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        "text": " It has very a small amount of electric power can give you."
    },
    {
        "start": 751.6,
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        "text": " Go ahead."
    },
    {
        "start": 752.6,
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        "text": " And the 8 speed."
    },
    {
        "start": 753.6,
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        "text": " It's doing that search."
    },
    {
        "start": 754.6,
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        "text": " It's like a lot of gears to choose."
    },
    {
        "start": 756.6,
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        "text": " So I think that like you said, the mid-range torque is fantastic."
    },
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        "start": 761.6,
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        "text": " Ryan, I totally agree with you about that."
    },
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        "start": 763.6,
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        "text": " But there's just some unevenness to the powertrain where sometimes you ask for a downshift."
    },
    {
        "start": 769.6,
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        "text": " It comes nice and quick, but then it comes on more abruptly than you thought."
    },
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        "start": 774.6,
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        "text": " But the biggest thing for me is the vibrations."
    },
    {
        "start": 777.6,
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        "text": " The vibrations you feel through the steering wheel, basically during any kind of acceleration."
    },
    {
        "start": 783.6,
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        "text": " And the harder you press the gas pedal and the higher the revs go, the more vibrates."
    },
    {
        "start": 787.6,
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        "text": " And that's just a big difference."
    },
    {
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        "text": " And it just feels unrefined."
    },
    {
        "start": 791.6,
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        "text": " Yes, it's kind of a truck and that's okay."
    },
    {
        "start": 794.6,
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        "text": " But for me, it's just a little, I don't know if I would want to put up with that all the time."
    },
    {
        "start": 797.6,
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        "text": " Is it a $70,000 to call?"
    },
    {
        "start": 799.6,
        "end": 800.6,
        "text": " Well, yeah, exactly."
    },
    {
        "start": 800.6,
        "end": 801.6,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
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        "text": " One thing I was thinking to the noise, I think of the pleasing grunt or whatever, you know, the exhaust burble, all the words that went with the V8."
    },
    {
        "start": 810.6,
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        "text": " Now you got, I'm going to say it again."
    },
    {
        "start": 812.6,
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        "text": " Oh, no."
    },
    {
        "start": 813.6,
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        "text": " No, I had a lot of it."
    },
    {
        "start": 815.6,
        "end": 816.6,
        "text": " And I pulled this room in there."
    },
    {
        "start": 816.6,
        "end": 817.6,
        "text": " I was like, I love turbo wine."
    },
    {
        "start": 817.6,
        "end": 818.6,
        "text": " And I'm like, oh, my God."
    },
    {
        "start": 818.6,
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        "text": " I see, I think you're the terminology."
    },
    {
        "start": 820.6,
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        "text": " You're you're denigrating it."
    },
    {
        "start": 822.6,
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        "text": " It should be turbo whistle."
    },
    {
        "start": 823.6,
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        "text": " It is."
    },
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        "start": 824.6,
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        "text": " You say wine."
    },
    {
        "start": 825.6,
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        "text": " It sounds offensive, but whistle sounds good."
    },
    {
        "start": 827.6,
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        "text": " I actually wrote here wine whistle."
    },
    {
        "start": 829.6,
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        "text": " Well, so that's funny because I don't mind like I said, I don't like the vibrations for the steering wheel, but I don't mind a turbo whistling up and down."
    },
    {
        "start": 836.6,
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        "text": " I kind of like that right now in the cars."
    },
    {
        "start": 838.6,
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        "text": " Yeah, yeah, this is embarrassing, but that's real like like high pitch."
    },
    {
        "start": 842.6,
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        "text": " I don't I'm a little harder hearing."
    },
    {
        "start": 844.6,
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        "text": " I don't hear that was."
    },
    {
        "start": 845.6,
        "end": 846.6,
        "text": " Oh, my God."
    },
    {
        "start": 846.6,
        "end": 850.6,
        "text": " I did hear it in some of the cars we've had in the past, but this didn't I wasn't I did detecting it."
    },
    {
        "start": 850.6,
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        "text": " And I was you know, I had some people in the car and they could hear it."
    },
    {
        "start": 853.6,
        "end": 854.6,
        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 854.6,
        "end": 855.6,
        "text": " But yeah, so yeah, yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 855.6,
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        "text": " Yeah, just where again, if you're going in with eyes wide open, it's there."
    },
    {
        "start": 859.6,
        "end": 860.6,
        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 860.6,
        "end": 863.6,
        "text": " Now, okay, so it's not surprising right that it's a little bit clumsy through corners."
    },
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        "start": 863.6,
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        "text": " I think we can agree."
    },
    {
        "start": 864.6,
        "end": 865.6,
        "text": " We can all agree."
    },
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        "text": " It's kind of clumsy through corners as most serious off road vehicles are right."
    },
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        "start": 868.6,
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        "text": " And I'm going to go for a clumsy with speed in the AM."
    },
    {
        "start": 871.6,
        "end": 872.6,
        "text": " Yes."
    },
    {
        "start": 872.6,
        "end": 873.6,
        "text": " Yeah, we're going to find out."
    },
    {
        "start": 873.6,
        "end": 874.6,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 874.6,
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        "text": " The steering is pretty slow."
    },
    {
        "start": 875.6,
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        "text": " Large amounts of body roll."
    },
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        "start": 876.6,
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        "text": " We talked about that."
    },
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        "start": 877.6,
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        "text": " And then there's the ride."
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    {
        "start": 878.6,
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        "text": " If you ride, if you drive on mostly smooth roads like secondary roads or the highway, it's probably going to be fine."
    },
    {
        "start": 884.6,
        "end": 889.6,
        "text": " Yeah, but it's when you hit those bumpier back roads that things start to get a little bouncy again."
    },
    {
        "start": 889.6,
        "end": 891.6,
        "text": " Get a little bit of unrefinement."
    },
    {
        "start": 891.6,
        "end": 893.6,
        "text": " You feel that body on frame jiggle."
    },
    {
        "start": 893.6,
        "end": 894.6,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 894.6,
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        "text": " Am I right?"
    },
    {
        "start": 895.6,
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        "text": " You guys agree with that?"
    },
    {
        "start": 896.6,
        "end": 899.6,
        "text": " I said, I think I wrote in the law, but if it's a single disturbance, it's fine."
    },
    {
        "start": 899.6,
        "end": 900.6,
        "text": " Yes."
    },
    {
        "start": 900.6,
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        "text": " If there's more than one hundred percent of your body's going to get it's jittery."
    },
    {
        "start": 903.6,
        "end": 905.6,
        "text": " Yeah, bodies going to get unsettled is exactly the word."
    },
    {
        "start": 905.6,
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        "text": " Yeah, I do agree."
    },
    {
        "start": 907.6,
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        "text": " I also say that well, first of all, kind of backing up a little bit."
    },
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        "start": 911.6,
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        "text": " The front seats, it seemed like most of the people in the logbook are fine with the front seats."
    },
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        "start": 915.6,
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        "text": " They like them."
    },
    {
        "start": 916.6,
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        "text": " They fit me well."
    },
    {
        "start": 917.6,
        "end": 918.6,
        "text": " The rear seat is not that great."
    },
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        "start": 918.6,
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        "text": " That's fine."
    },
    {
        "start": 919.6,
        "end": 923.6,
        "text": " You know, it's very flat, shapeless, probably great for childhood seats."
    },
    {
        "start": 923.6,
        "end": 924.6,
        "text": " You'll have to tell us about that."
    },
    {
        "start": 924.6,
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        "text": " That's fine."
    },
    {
        "start": 925.6,
        "end": 928.6,
        "text": " There's lots of headroom, but that's about as good as it gets."
    },
    {
        "start": 928.6,
        "end": 931.6,
        "text": " You just don't feel like you're supported at all."
    },
    {
        "start": 931.6,
        "end": 934.6,
        "text": " There isn't that much under leg support."
    },
    {
        "start": 934.6,
        "end": 938.6,
        "text": " The foot space is pretty tight underneath the front seats."
    },
    {
        "start": 939.6,
        "end": 941.6,
        "text": " There's just some things that aren't so great."
    },
    {
        "start": 941.6,
        "end": 944.6,
        "text": " Backing up again, let's just talk because we always talk about it."
    },
    {
        "start": 944.6,
        "end": 949.6,
        "text": " Let's talk about some things that we really do like besides the front seats and the mid-range to work."
    },
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        "start": 949.6,
        "end": 950.6,
        "text": " That's the controls."
    },
    {
        "start": 950.6,
        "end": 951.6,
        "text": " The controls are pretty simple."
    },
    {
        "start": 951.6,
        "end": 954.6,
        "text": " Tell us what you like about the controls."
    },
    {
        "start": 954.6,
        "end": 955.6,
        "text": " Traditional shifter."
    },
    {
        "start": 955.6,
        "end": 956.6,
        "text": " Yes."
    },
    {
        "start": 956.6,
        "end": 959.6,
        "text": " Really easy to navigate."
    },
    {
        "start": 959.6,
        "end": 962.6,
        "text": " Screen, climate controls are separate."
    },
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        "text": " Volume knob."
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        "text": " That I use, I shouldn't say."
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        "text": " Not everybody."
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        "text": " Things I use often are all there."
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        "text": " CarPlay integrates super easily."
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        "text": " The drive mode selector is very simple."
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        "text": " The off-road goodies are like hard buttons right in front of you."
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        "text": " The cockpit itself is kind of off-roading."
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        "text": " Everything kind of close to you."
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        "text": " It's very driving position."
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        "text": " Visibility is very, very up-right."
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        "text": " The squareness makes, I don't know if you were going to know it or leave in your notes."
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        "text": " You know where I'm going."
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        "text": " Which yield is almost vertical."
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        "text": " Because your A-pillars or windshield pillars are going to be upright more than they are coming back."
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        "text": " Even though they can be a little thick, but because they're not sweeping back toward the driver's head,"
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        "text": " it's pretty easy."
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        "text": " There's a lot of glass areas."
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        "text": " That aspect is pretty good."
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        "text": " Like I said, you feel like you're sitting up high and you have a good view ahead."
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        "text": " I like that."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " It's a commanding view."
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        "text": " Exactly."
    },
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        "text": " I think we're a little torn on how much we really like this vehicle."
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        "text": " But I think you're right, Jen, that people need to just be aware of what they're getting into."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " It's a Jen's point."
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        "text": " For the money, you need to be aware."
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        "text": " If you put the money aside, that's like my type of vehicle."
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        "text": " I like that."
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        "text": " It's still working."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " I can give up a little bit of ride for that trucky off-road feeling."
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        "text": " But yeah, for that kind of money, that's a very good point."
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        "text": " I mean, it's not the old land cruiser."
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        "text": " And the old one was luxurious much more."
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        "text": " But there is something to what you're talking about."
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        "text": " That there is something just kind of unique about a vehicle."
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        "text": " And you even find that when you get in a Wrangler, after you haven't been in one for a while,"
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        "text": " it kind of has a unique drive."
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        "text": " It feels so trucky and an old school."
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        "text": " And there's something, just there's some character there that you don't see in a lot of these We land SUVs."
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        "text": " I want to say we're in appreciation though, that they're still trying to make these fun cars."
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        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
        "start": 1073.6,
        "end": 1074.6,
        "text": " Because we're getting really bland."
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    {
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        "end": 1075.6,
        "text": " Everything's like the same."
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        "text": " Like, the thing has some personality."
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        "text": " And I give a lot of credit for that."
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " You were going to say something, John."
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    {
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        "text": " And I feel like it was going to be really..."
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    {
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        "text": " It was just going to say, no, it wasn't really."
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        "text": " It was, if I'm showing out $70,000, do I want to go bang it over rocks?"
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        "text": " So I'll tell you what."
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        "text": " And I don't think I do."
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        "text": " That's fair too."
    },
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        "start": 1094.6,
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        "text": " Well, I've got a question for both of you guys."
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        "text": " But I will say this."
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        "text": " So I wouldn't want to."
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        "text": " I will say that when..."
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        "text": " Once our vehicles are through tests, there's some local trails around here."
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        "text": " And keep in mind, we're in the Northeast."
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        "text": " And the problem with the Northeast is that it's not wide open."
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        "text": " So our trails are kind of narrow."
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        "text": " So that's why something like a Wrangler makes so much sense."
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        "text": " Because it's actually a pretty narrow vehicle."
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        "text": " But it's also not $70,000."
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        "text": " And so when I'm out there on these local trails,"
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        "text": " I never see anyone with a vehicle."
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        "text": " Anywhere near as expensive as what I'm driving."
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        "text": " I see someone that clapped out old jacked up Jeep Cherokee."
    },
    {
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        "text": " So when the branches break down the sides of the car."
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        "text": " They don't care."
    },
    {
        "start": 1138.6,
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        "text": " But anyway, so let's just pretend for a second that each of us were in the market for."
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        "text": " Let's call it a rugged SUV."
    },
    {
        "start": 1146.6,
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        "text": " So let's just try and stick with you know,"
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        "text": " we're talking what like Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler, Jeep Grant Cherokee, Land Rover Defender,"
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    {
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        "text": " something like that."
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        "text": " Let's just say we were in that market."
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        "text": " Jen, would you buy this Land Cruiser or would you buy something else?"
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        "text": " I would buy something else."
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        "text": " I would buy Ford Bronco."
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        "text": " And the reason I say that is that I would be okay if the branches break down the sides."
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        "text": " Or I banged it over some rocks."
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        "text": " I wouldn't be, even when you get a new car like that first thing."
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        "text": " It's the worst."
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        "text": " It's the worst."
    },
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        "text": " And I think it looks so nice."
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        "text": " And I would be like, oh, I rode it."
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        "text": " I rode it."
    },
    {
        "start": 1184.6,
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        "text": " But anyway, it is not get there."
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        "text": " It is funny because I mean, you can't, it's hard to look at this Land Cruiser,"
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    {
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        "text": " not be able to not think it looks so cool."
    },
    {
        "start": 1192.6,
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        "text": " And like you want to take it on, but man, I don't want to get it like super, you know, I don't want it."
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        "start": 1196.6,
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        "text": " Did you end up?"
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        "text": " I rode down in my, do you ever love a car based solely on its looks?"
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        "text": " Absolutely."
    },
    {
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        "text": " And then find out it was a really great car."
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        "text": " Like I go back, I loved the Asusu Amigo."
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        "text": " I wanted one when I was high-time, so bad."
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        "text": " And the Eagle Talon."
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        "text": " I wanted both those cars."
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        "text": " Neither one of them was particularly reliable."
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        "text": " I don't see a lot of them on the road today."
    },
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        "text": " I don't see a lot of them on the road today."
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    {
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        "text": " Anyway, I'd never fall in love just now."
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        "text": " Absolutely."
    },
    {
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        "text": " Styling is super important."
    },
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        "text": " We know that."
    },
    {
        "start": 1225.6,
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        "text": " Styling is really important to buyers, but of course, the best thing is if you can have the whole package."
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        "text": " So Ryan, how do we get the whole package?"
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        "text": " Is it the Land Cruiser or is it something else entirely?"
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        "text": " Yeah, if I could afford this and I have it, am I going to take it off road?"
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        "text": " Probably not for a while."
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        "text": " Do you buy a Land Cruiser or will you buy a Land Rover Defender?"
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        "text": " I buy this."
    },
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        "text": " Okay."
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        "text": " Interesting."
    },
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        "text": " I would buy this."
    },
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        "text": " You really like it."
    },
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        "text": " Yeah, I really do."
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        "text": " I think it has, you know..."
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        "text": " You don't get a loan."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " I think it has some potential."
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        "text": " And I like to Defender, but I mean, the Defender is arguably a little more well-mannered on-road."
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        "end": 1259.6,
        "text": " Right."
    },
    {
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        "text": " But that doesn't sell me."
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        "text": " But honestly, if I was going to buy something I'd go off-roading, like something more modern to go off-roading with,"
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        "text": " I'd probably buy a last-generation GX or something."
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " You can get those pretty good."
    },
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        "text": " Yep."
    },
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        "text": " And they're nice cars."
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        "text": " Super reliable."
    },
    {
        "start": 1271.6,
        "end": 1272.6,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " Great off-road."
    },
    {
        "start": 1273.6,
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        "text": " And my mom had to just go..."
    },
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        "text": " And even a little bit luck looking for her."
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    {
        "start": 1275.6,
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        "text": " Yeah, my mom actually just got one."
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        "text": " She got..."
    },
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        "text": " Really?"
    },
    {
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        "text": " She gave up on her BMW X5 because it was giving her issues."
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        "text": " And I'm like, you know what?"
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        "end": 1281.6,
        "text": " I'm done with..."
    },
    {
        "start": 1281.6,
        "end": 1282.6,
        "text": " What did she get?"
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        "text": " Alexa's GX."
    },
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        "text": " Like I used the 2021 because she was freaking out on her reliability."
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        "text": " I have two."
    },
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        "text": " I might just get this and stop."
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        "text": " I have two bodies that bought used GXs specifically to go off-roading."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " My mom did not do that."
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        "text": " And every after you've come right that time, buying a used one would maybe let her..."
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 1297.6,
        "end": 1298.6,
        "text": " Yeah."
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    {
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        "text": " Absolutely."
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        "start": 1299.6,
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        "text": " Absolutely."
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    {
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        "text": " So I hate to admit this, but I'm agreeing with Jen out of the ones that I mentioned."
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    {
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        "text": " Yeah."
    },
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        "text": " Do a new rugged SUV."
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        "text": " I'd go with a Bronco."
    },
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        "text": " And I especially love the two-door model."
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        "text": " The more I see it, the two-door model is good."
    },
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        "start": 1315.6,
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " The Man I think is good looking."
    },
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        "text": " And you have all that money now left over to accessorize."
    },
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        "text": " And it's..."
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        "text": " Well, it's considerably less expensive."
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    {
        "start": 1321.6,
        "end": 1322.6,
        "text": " Yeah."
    },
    {
        "start": 1322.6,
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        "text": " And yet if you get the Turbo B6 version like what we tested, it's a much nicer product."
    },
    {
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        "text": " It's a much nicer powertrain, I think, to work with."
    },
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        "text": " And yeah, so I think I'd probably go with the Bronco."
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        "text": " But we do have a first drive review of the Land Cruiser."
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        "text": " Like I said, it's actually based more on the version that we rented."
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        "text": " But we will be sending this Land Cruiser that we purchased through our test program soon."
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        "text": " So stay alert and be on the lookout for full road test results as soon as we have them."
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        "text": " I suspect we'll be fighting over it a little bit."
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        "text": " Yeah, definitely."
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        "text": " Because it's not our 70k."
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        "text": " Yeah, well, that's just it."
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        "text": " Our friends and family will go bring that home."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Maybe we'll do some off-road."
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        "text": " Some light off-roading, I think we will."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " Alright, so let's move on to audience questions."
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        "text": " Don't forget to send those questions, comments, 30-second video clips of talking cars at iCloud.com."
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        "text": " And yeah, definitely, if you don't mind taking a little time, shoot some videos."
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        "text": " We love the cool backgrounds."
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        "text": " We love seeing your faces."
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        "text": " So send those if you have the time."
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        "start": 1385.6,
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        "text": " And to that end, if we use your video or your regular question that you send in,"
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        "text": " we're going to send you some CR Auto Test Swag, maybe some T-shirt or something like that."
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        "text": " So be sure to, like, a little more motivation to send in a really good watch."
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        "text": " It's not a bribe, is it?"
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        "text": " It's not a bribe."
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        "text": " But it's a little, not even a popularity contest."
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        "text": " Just a appreciation that maybe you haven't seen, you know, talked about on the show before, right?"
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        "text": " Okay, so the first question today comes from Steve and Steve says,"
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        "text": " lately, I've seen commercials advertising that their particular cars come recommended by CR."
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        "text": " Do these ads fall under this policy or am I missing something?"
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        "text": " Steve likely isn't the only person to have noticed this."
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        "text": " So, Jen, tell us about what's going on."
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        "text": " So the people are absolutely seeing these ads, you know, with a lot of CR that they didn't see before."
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        "text": " We are still buying them at retail, just as consumers would."
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        "text": " All of that is still in place on the front end."
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        "text": " The difference is now that we are licensing the CR, what they call CR,"
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        "text": " And the difference too is years and years ago, it wasn't quite as necessary."
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        "text": " There weren't so many reviews, endorsements, sponsored reviews that sometimes now you can't quite sort out."
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        "text": " Is this paid for? Is this even real?"
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " And CR really wanted to be at the table as remaining that trusted mark, but differentiating ourselves."
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        "text": " Right."
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        "text": " That was us."
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        "text": " You have to be a CR recommended product to carry that logo with it."
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        "text": " There is a little bit of money involved as well. Did you want to talk about that real quick just to be fully transparent?"
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        "text": " Goes back in. Hopefully we're getting more Toyota Land Cruisers at 70K so that you can negotiate the market."
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        "text": " It's not like that."
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        "text": " Can they then pick that up and use that recommendation?"
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        "text": " It's got good value and we're hoping to benefit from that in the future to feed more."
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        "text": " And yet in a way it should get the word out more about CR which is important that people understand what we do."
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        "text": " And that we have said this is a good product."
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        "text": " I just want to add to if it works."
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        "text": " It truly we see, hey consumers are leaning into more CR recommended products."
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        "text": " I see what's happening."
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        "text": " I'm sure there are others asking that question."
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        "text": " It was mentioned that it's available in a front wheel drive configuration."
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        "text": " I think that's Andy, that's a great question for sure."
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        "text": " It's more efficient and it's handling wise."
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        "text": " I think it's a cost and a handling thing still."
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        "text": " I would think to maybe, sorry, Jeff."
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        "text": " No, no way."
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        "text": " With the front wheel drive EV, you know, on the prologue or whatever, because you can get that on all wheel drive version."
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        "text": " Yeah."
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        "text": " How many times, and I've said it on this show, that you get wheels spin on the front wheels, you know, at certain locations around here when it's raining or when it's wet."
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        "text": " If that instant power, which we'll say, again, stability control changes the whole equation."
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        "text": " But would that be a riskier instant power at the rear with an electric?"
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        "text": " It could be for two reasons. One, it's stability control, traction control aren't perfect."
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        "text": " And they're not always instantaneous. So they could be thinking, well, if they're going to feel that slight traction, be weird."
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        "text": " We don't want to scare people with the, oh, the rear stepped out just even for a second."
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        "text": " That might scare some buyers, right? So I've, man, I think that that might be part of what they're thinking."
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        "text": " It might not be that common. We might see that they're a lot of them are just rear wheel or just only all wheeled."
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    {
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        "text": " Not a wheel, yeah."
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        "text": " Few of them every now and again are front wheeled because they made that choice."
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    {
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        "text": " Yeah. Well, Andy, hopefully that answers your question."
    },
    {
        "start": 2015.6,
        "end": 2021.6,
        "text": " That's going to do it for this episode. If you want to learn more about the cars and the topics we talked about, you can click on the links in the show notes."
    },
    {
        "start": 2021.6,
        "end": 2026.6,
        "text": " Don't forget to send those questions, comments, 30 second video clips of talking cars at iCloud.com."
    },
    {
        "start": 2026.6,
        "end": 2027.6,
        "text": " Thanks so much, Sharon."
    },
    {
        "start": 2027.6,
        "end": 2030.6,
        "text": " That's right. Get your T-shirt, your T-shirt, your T-shirt."
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    {
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        "text": " If you have your question, it gets used."
    },
    {
        "start": 2032.6,
        "end": 2036.6,
        "text": " Yeah, so that's going to do it for this episode. And again, thanks for watching and we'll see you all next time."
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