diff --git "a/data/en110/text/00000016.txt" "b/data/en110/text/00000016.txt" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/data/en110/text/00000016.txt" @@ -0,0 +1,13440 @@ +wlxPg95bHQ8-00000-00000051-00000329 in chemistry apollyon is any organic +wlxPg95bHQ8-00001-00000330-00000539 compound with alternating single and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00002-00000540-00000724 triple bonds that is a series of +wlxPg95bHQ8-00003-00000725-00001066 consecutive alkynes - CC - n with N +wlxPg95bHQ8-00004-00001067-00001345 greater than 1 the simplest example is +wlxPg95bHQ8-00005-00001346-00001754 die acetylene or Buda 1 3 DIY n e H - si +wlxPg95bHQ8-00006-00001755-00002167 si - si si - H these compounds have also +wlxPg95bHQ8-00007-00002168-00002368 been called ala Goines or carbonyls +wlxPg95bHQ8-00008-00002369-00002776 after carbine - si si - infinity the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00009-00002777-00002977 hypothetical allotrope of carbon that +wlxPg95bHQ8-00010-00002978-00003115 would be the ultimate member of the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00011-00003116-00003383 series the synthesis of this substance +wlxPg95bHQ8-00012-00003384-00003577 has been claimed several times since the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00013-00003578-00003788 1960s but those reports have been +wlxPg95bHQ8-00014-00003789-00004052 disputed indeed the substances +wlxPg95bHQ8-00015-00004053-00004325 identified as short chains of carbine in +wlxPg95bHQ8-00016-00004326-00004597 many early organic synthesis attempts +wlxPg95bHQ8-00017-00004598-00004816 would be called polylines today +wlxPg95bHQ8-00018-00004817-00005024 polylines are distinct from poly +wlxPg95bHQ8-00019-00005025-00005270 acetylenes polymers formerly obtained by +wlxPg95bHQ8-00020-00005271-00005438 polymerization of acetylenes +wlxPg95bHQ8-00021-00005439-00005708 the backbones of poly acetylenes have +wlxPg95bHQ8-00022-00005709-00005977 alternating single and double bonds - C +wlxPg95bHQ8-00023-00005978-00006313 R equals C R - n in biochemistry and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00024-00006314-00006668 plant biology polyacetylene is routinely +wlxPg95bHQ8-00025-00006669-00006836 used to describe naturally-occurring +wlxPg95bHQ8-00026-00006837-00007112 poly Ines and related species along with +wlxPg95bHQ8-00027-00007113-00007313 cumulants poly lines are distinguished +wlxPg95bHQ8-00028-00007314-00007490 from other organic chains by their +wlxPg95bHQ8-00029-00007491-00007684 rigidity which makes them promising for +wlxPg95bHQ8-00030-00007686-00007984 molecular nanotechnology poly inés have +wlxPg95bHQ8-00031-00007986-00008129 been detected in interstellar molecular +wlxPg95bHQ8-00032-00008130-00008864 clouds where hydrogen is scarce +wlxPg95bHQ8-00033-00008865-00009388 topic synthesis +wlxPg95bHQ8-00034-00009389-00009601 the first reported synthesis of +wlxPg95bHQ8-00035-00009602-00009922 polylines was performed in 1869 by Karl +wlxPg95bHQ8-00036-00009923-00010126 Glaser who observed that copper phenol +wlxPg95bHQ8-00037-00010127-00010432 acetyl I'd cut to c6h5 undergoes +wlxPg95bHQ8-00038-00010433-00010651 oxidative dimerization in the presence +wlxPg95bHQ8-00039-00010652-00010875 of air to produce diphenyl butadiene +wlxPg95bHQ8-00040-00010876-00011284 c6h5 c4 c6 h5 interest in these +wlxPg95bHQ8-00041-00011285-00011500 compounds has stimulated research into +wlxPg95bHQ8-00042-00011501-00011698 their preparation by organic synthesis +wlxPg95bHQ8-00043-00011699-00011974 by several general routes many such +wlxPg95bHQ8-00044-00011975-00012184 procedures involve a catio Chica vich +wlxPg95bHQ8-00045-00012185-00012406 coupling or similar reactions to unite +wlxPg95bHQ8-00046-00012407-00012621 two separate alkyne building blocks or +wlxPg95bHQ8-00047-00012622-00012835 by alkylation of a preformed paulien +wlxPg95bHQ8-00048-00012836-00013347 unit +wlxPg95bHQ8-00049-00013347-00013869 topic simple polymers +wlxPg95bHQ8-00050-00013871-00014084 using various techniques +wlxPg95bHQ8-00051-00014085-00014411 Pauline's h minus CC minus NH with and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00052-00014412-00014618 up to four or five were synthesized +wlxPg95bHQ8-00053-00014619-00015035 during the 1950's around 1971 TR Johnson +wlxPg95bHQ8-00054-00015036-00015281 and dr.m Walton developed the use of end +wlxPg95bHQ8-00055-00015282-00015541 caps of the form - cirthree where R was +wlxPg95bHQ8-00056-00015543-00015737 usually an ethyl group to protect the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00057-00015738-00015932 poly a chain during the chain doubling +wlxPg95bHQ8-00058-00015933-00016184 reaction using Hays catalyst a copper I +wlxPg95bHQ8-00059-00016185-00016472 TM EDA complex with that technique they +wlxPg95bHQ8-00060-00016473-00016691 were able to obtain poly inés like at 3 +wlxPg95bHQ8-00061-00016692-00017075 C CC MSI e t3 with em up to 8 in pure +wlxPg95bHQ8-00062-00017076-00017356 state and with em up to 16 in solution +wlxPg95bHQ8-00063-00017357-00017642 alkynes with the formula h minus CC +wlxPg95bHQ8-00064-00017643-00017930 minus NH and n from 2 to 6 can be +wlxPg95bHQ8-00065-00017931-00018137 detected in the decomposition products +wlxPg95bHQ8-00066-00018138-00018395 of partially oxidized copper i acetylide +wlxPg95bHQ8-00067-00018396-00018776 CU + 2 c 2 minus 2 and acetylene +wlxPg95bHQ8-00068-00018777-00019049 derivative known since 1856 or earlier +wlxPg95bHQ8-00069-00019050-00019385 by hydrochloric acid a carbonaceous +wlxPg95bHQ8-00070-00019386-00019712 residue left by the decomposition also +wlxPg95bHQ8-00071-00019713-00019928 has the spectral signature of minus CC +wlxPg95bHQ8-00072-00019929-00020544 minus n chains +wlxPg95bHQ8-00073-00020545-00021098 topic organometallics +wlxPg95bHQ8-00074-00021099-00021350 organometallic polyenes capped with +wlxPg95bHQ8-00075-00021351-00021554 metal complexes are well characterized +wlxPg95bHQ8-00076-00021555-00021833 as of the mid 2010s the most intense +wlxPg95bHQ8-00077-00021834-00022031 research has concerned rhenium rician +wlxPg95bHQ8-00078-00022032-00022292 air n equals six to twenty ruthenium +wlxPg95bHQ8-00079-00022293-00022508 luerssen roo-hoo n equals eight to +wlxPg95bHQ8-00080-00022509-00022940 twenty iron Fe C 12 C Fe Platinum PT c +wlxPg95bHQ8-00081-00022941-00023213 and PT and equals sixteen to twenty +wlxPg95bHQ8-00082-00023214-00023540 eight palladium a are C and P D N equals +wlxPg95bHQ8-00083-00023541-00023921 six to ten and cobalt co 3 C and C O 3 n +wlxPg95bHQ8-00084-00023922-00024716 equals 14 to 26 complexes +wlxPg95bHQ8-00085-00024717-00025219 topic stability +wlxPg95bHQ8-00086-00025220-00025481 long Pauline chains are said to be +wlxPg95bHQ8-00087-00025482-00025694 inherently unstable in bulk because they +wlxPg95bHQ8-00088-00025695-00025862 can cross link with each other in an +wlxPg95bHQ8-00089-00025863-00026137 exothermic indeed explosive reaction +wlxPg95bHQ8-00090-00026138-00026363 explosions are a real hazard in this +wlxPg95bHQ8-00091-00026364-00026579 area of research they can be fairly +wlxPg95bHQ8-00092-00026580-00026786 stable even against moisture and oxygen +wlxPg95bHQ8-00093-00026787-00026983 if they are end capped with suitable +wlxPg95bHQ8-00094-00026985-00027202 inert groups such as tert-butyl or +wlxPg95bHQ8-00095-00027204-00027401 trifluoromethyl rather than hydrogen +wlxPg95bHQ8-00096-00027402-00027452 atoms +wlxPg95bHQ8-00097-00027452-00027662 especially bulky ones that can keep the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00098-00027663-00028022 chains apart in 1995 the preparation of +wlxPg95bHQ8-00099-00028023-00028283 carbon chains with over 300 carbons was +wlxPg95bHQ8-00100-00028283-00028526 reported using this technique however +wlxPg95bHQ8-00101-00028527-00028763 the report has been contested by a claim +wlxPg95bHQ8-00102-00028764-00028925 that the detected molecules were +wlxPg95bHQ8-00103-00028926-00029108 fullerene like structures rather than +wlxPg95bHQ8-00104-00029108-00029345 long polyenes apollyon compound with +wlxPg95bHQ8-00105-00029345-00029588 Tennesse lenok units 20 atoms with the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00106-00029589-00029804 ends capped by fresh a-type aromatic +wlxPg95bHQ8-00107-00029805-00030026 polyethers dendrimers was isolated and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00108-00030027-00030407 characterized in 2004 as of 2010 the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00109-00030408-00030581 Pauline with the longest chain yet +wlxPg95bHQ8-00110-00030582-00030899 isolated had 22 as see Hellenic units 44 +wlxPg95bHQ8-00111-00030900-00031232 atoms and capped with Tris 3 5dt butyl +wlxPg95bHQ8-00112-00031233-00031465 phenyl methyl groups Pauline chains have +wlxPg95bHQ8-00113-00031466-00031676 also been stabilized to heating by CO +wlxPg95bHQ8-00114-00031677-00031895 deposition with silver nanoparticles and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00115-00031895-00032069 by complexation with a mercury +wlxPg95bHQ8-00116-00032070-00032288 containing tridentate Lewis acid to form +wlxPg95bHQ8-00117-00032289-00032395 layered adducts +wlxPg95bHQ8-00118-00032395-00032689 long pauline chains encapsulated in +wlxPg95bHQ8-00119-00032691-00032897 double walled carbon nanotubes have also +wlxPg95bHQ8-00120-00032898-00033520 been shown to be stable +wlxPg95bHQ8-00121-00033521-00033846 topic structure +wlxPg95bHQ8-00122-00033847-00034034 you +wlxPg95bHQ8-00123-00034035-00034352 synthetic polylines of the form are - - +wlxPg95bHQ8-00124-00034353-00034664 CC - and - are within about eight or +wlxPg95bHQ8-00125-00034665-00034862 more often have a smoothly curved or +wlxPg95bHQ8-00126-00034863-00035036 helical backbone in the crystal and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00127-00035037-00035261 solid state presumably due to crystal +wlxPg95bHQ8-00128-00035262-00035558 packing effects for example when the cap +wlxPg95bHQ8-00129-00035559-00035786 Aras try ice apropos Silla and n as +wlxPg95bHQ8-00130-00035787-00035981 eight x-ray crystallography of the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00131-00035982-00036170 substance a crystalline orange yellow +wlxPg95bHQ8-00132-00036171-00036392 solid shows the backbone bent by about +wlxPg95bHQ8-00133-00036393-00036686 25 to 30 degrees in a broad arch so that +wlxPg95bHQ8-00134-00036687-00037001 each C - CC angle deviates by 3.1 +wlxPg95bHQ8-00135-00037002-00037226 degrees from a straight line this +wlxPg95bHQ8-00136-00037227-00037457 geometry affords a denser packing with +wlxPg95bHQ8-00137-00037458-00037664 the bulky cap of an adjacent molecule +wlxPg95bHQ8-00138-00037665-00037844 nested into the concave side of the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00139-00037845-00038105 backbone as a result the distance +wlxPg95bHQ8-00140-00038106-00038258 between backbones of neighboring +wlxPg95bHQ8-00141-00038259-00038666 molecules is reduced to about 0.35 - 0.5 +wlxPg95bHQ8-00142-00038667-00038855 nanometers near the range at which one +wlxPg95bHQ8-00143-00038856-00039134 expects spontaneous cross-linking the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00144-00039135-00039344 compound is stable indefinitely at low +wlxPg95bHQ8-00145-00039345-00039533 temperature but decomposes before +wlxPg95bHQ8-00146-00039534-00039803 melting in contrast the homologous +wlxPg95bHQ8-00147-00039804-00040100 molecules with N equals 4 or N equals 5 +wlxPg95bHQ8-00148-00040101-00040298 have nearly straight backbones that stay +wlxPg95bHQ8-00149-00040299-00040679 at least 0.5 to 0.7 nanometers apart and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00150-00040680-00041306 melt without decomposing +wlxPg95bHQ8-00151-00041307-00041870 topic natural occurrence +wlxPg95bHQ8-00152-00041871-00042208 you +wlxPg95bHQ8-00153-00042209-00042794 topic biological origins +wlxPg95bHQ8-00154-00042795-00043049 a wide range of organisms synthesize +wlxPg95bHQ8-00155-00043050-00043310 polylines these chemicals have various +wlxPg95bHQ8-00156-00043311-00043520 biological activities including as +wlxPg95bHQ8-00157-00043521-00043703 flavorings and pigments chemical +wlxPg95bHQ8-00158-00043704-00043910 repellents and toxins and potential +wlxPg95bHQ8-00159-00043911-00044117 application to biomedical research and +wlxPg95bHQ8-00160-00044118-00044441 pharmaceuticals the simple fatty acid +wlxPg95bHQ8-00161-00044442-00044651 810 octave decade' Noack acid is +wlxPg95bHQ8-00162-00044652-00044822 isolated from the root bark of the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00163-00044823-00045050 legume Peres mackerel opium kuru liam of +wlxPg95bHQ8-00164-00045051-00045284 the showy mistletoe Laurent a CI family +wlxPg95bHQ8-00165-00045285-00045428 and has been investigated as a +wlxPg95bHQ8-00166-00045429-00045635 photopolymer izybelle unit in synthetic +wlxPg95bHQ8-00167-00045636-00045971 phospholipids the Reuben B is the most +wlxPg95bHQ8-00168-00045972-00046169 prevalent among several related light +wlxPg95bHQ8-00169-00046170-00046319 sensitive pigments that have been +wlxPg95bHQ8-00170-00046320-00046547 isolated from the giant ragweed ambrosia +wlxPg95bHQ8-00171-00046548-00046771 trifa de a plant used in herbal medicine +wlxPg95bHQ8-00172-00046772-00047045 the theru brines have antibiotic +wlxPg95bHQ8-00173-00047046-00047291 antiviral and nematodes idol activity an +wlxPg95bHQ8-00174-00047292-00047510 activity against HIV one that is +wlxPg95bHQ8-00175-00047511-00047837 mediated by exposure to light FAL Karen +wlxPg95bHQ8-00176-00047838-00047993 dial is the main compound responsible +wlxPg95bHQ8-00177-00047994-00048224 for bitterness in carrots and is the +wlxPg95bHQ8-00178-00048225-00048431 most active among several poly Ines with +wlxPg95bHQ8-00179-00048432-00048650 potential anti-cancer activity found in +wlxPg95bHQ8-00180-00048651-00048868 Devil's club Okhla Pentax hora de s-- +wlxPg95bHQ8-00181-00048869-00049145 other polylines from plants include +wlxPg95bHQ8-00182-00049146-00049418 Anantha toxin and psycho toxin Pauline's +wlxPg95bHQ8-00183-00049419-00049643 including FAL Karen dial can be found in +wlxPg95bHQ8-00184-00049644-00049859 apse a vegetables like carrot celery +wlxPg95bHQ8-00185-00049860-00050099 fennel parsley and parsnip where they +wlxPg95bHQ8-00186-00050100-00050504 show cytotoxic activities aliphatic C 17 +wlxPg95bHQ8-00187-00050505-00050717 polylines of the FAL Karen all type were +wlxPg95bHQ8-00188-00050718-00050930 described to act as metabolic modulators +wlxPg95bHQ8-00189-00050931-00051098 and are studied as potential health +wlxPg95bHQ8-00190-00051099-00051395 promoting nutriceuticals eat the other +wlxPg95bHQ8-00191-00051396-00051580 as a genus of plants whose active +wlxPg95bHQ8-00192-00051582-00051779 constituent as a pauline called thea +wlxPg95bHQ8-00193-00051779-00052019 they're all this compound is highly +wlxPg95bHQ8-00194-00052020-00052253 toxic to fish and mammals if the other +wlxPg95bHQ8-00195-00052254-00052451 terminalis leaves have traditionally +wlxPg95bHQ8-00196-00052452-00052613 been used to make poison bait by +wlxPg95bHQ8-00197-00052614-00052811 indigenous peoples of the lower Amazon +wlxPg95bHQ8-00198-00052812-00053147 basin die Hydra metric Aria acid as a +wlxPg95bHQ8-00199-00053148-00053348 Pauline produced and secreted by the 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much for coming on it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00056-00013722-00013865 great having you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00057-00013866-00014122 yeah it's great to be here +wmFaMS3KAB0-00058-00014123-00014363 so I was I was listening to this long +wmFaMS3KAB0-00059-00014363-00014735 three-hour discussion uh the other just +wmFaMS3KAB0-00060-00014736-00014944 today I think I finished it today about +wmFaMS3KAB0-00061-00014945-00015203 tornado cash and you know all those +wmFaMS3KAB0-00062-00015204-00015394 things and I heard you in there to sort +wmFaMS3KAB0-00063-00015395-00015611 of you know speaking a little bit the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00064-00015612-00015905 the voice of you know pure uh crypto +wmFaMS3KAB0-00065-00015906-00016072 decentralization you know I think +wmFaMS3KAB0-00066-00016073-00016216 there's a lot of other voices in there +wmFaMS3KAB0-00067-00016218-00016427 as well +wmFaMS3KAB0-00068-00016428-00016655 um I guess that sort of ties maybe a bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-00069-00016656-00016763 into +wmFaMS3KAB0-00070-00016764-00017165 reflex or two but I don't know maybe we +wmFaMS3KAB0-00071-00017166-00017339 can have like a brief background from +wmFaMS3KAB0-00072-00017340-00017543 you like you know who are you how did +wmFaMS3KAB0-00073-00017544-00017758 you get into crypto and then sort of how +wmFaMS3KAB0-00074-00017759-00018041 did that end up with you working on +wmFaMS3KAB0-00075-00018042-00018269 reflexor +wmFaMS3KAB0-00076-00018270-00018550 so I got into crypto uh like many people +wmFaMS3KAB0-00077-00018551-00018767 buying mushrooms on the Silk Road a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00078-00018768-00019030 decade ago uh I lost all my money in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00079-00019031-00019336 Mount gox sometime after that uh I've +wmFaMS3KAB0-00080-00019337-00019564 learned solidity joint consensus works +wmFaMS3KAB0-00081-00019565-00019883 on ethereum Smart contract stuff built +wmFaMS3KAB0-00082-00019884-00020143 some advertising stuff some +wmFaMS3KAB0-00083-00020144-00020350 micropayment stuff payment Channels +wmFaMS3KAB0-00084-00020351-00020597 State channels uh eventually started +wmFaMS3KAB0-00085-00020598-00020758 spank chain was trying to bring the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00086-00020759-00020944 crypto blockchain ethereum micro +wmFaMS3KAB0-00087-00020945-00021191 payments Tech to porn +wmFaMS3KAB0-00088-00021192-00021419 um and adult sites and then later +wmFaMS3KAB0-00089-00021420-00021641 started reflexor uh which makes the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00090-00021642-00022000 stable coin Rye a fork of uh maker does +wmFaMS3KAB0-00091-00022001-00022343 die uh so that it would stay sort of eth +wmFaMS3KAB0-00092-00022344-00022643 maximalist also help start Dao's started +wmFaMS3KAB0-00093-00022644-00022835 molokda back in the day +wmFaMS3KAB0-00094-00022836-00022991 um made Medicare cartel ventures in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00095-00022992-00023321 Lao of code base uh and so helped build +wmFaMS3KAB0-00096-00023322-00023572 some of the early early Dows really +wmFaMS3KAB0-00097-00023573-00023755 generally excited about +wmFaMS3KAB0-00098-00023756-00024119 furthering tools for people to maintain +wmFaMS3KAB0-00099-00024120-00024305 sovereignty have access to financial +wmFaMS3KAB0-00100-00024306-00024685 services be able to store money transact +wmFaMS3KAB0-00101-00024686-00024971 privately securely I don't know how this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00102-00024972-00025127 made me the poster child of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00103-00025128-00025336 decentralization in that last three hour +wmFaMS3KAB0-00104-00025337-00025678 conversation uh that we had it was a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00105-00025679-00025918 Twitter spaces hosted by Joe Gunther and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00106-00025919-00026194 her I think company like espressosis is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00107-00026195-00026435 like a privacy thing so there are some +wmFaMS3KAB0-00108-00026436-00026723 representatives from that on it uh Zuko +wmFaMS3KAB0-00109-00026724-00026933 was there there's a bunch of people uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00110-00026933-00027202 Zuko is obviously much you know he's an +wmFaMS3KAB0-00111-00027204-00027383 actual cryptographer he's a veteran of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00112-00027383-00027599 the space I think I was just the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00113-00027600-00027864 angriest and loudest person on the call +wmFaMS3KAB0-00114-00027866-00028211 because tornado is kind of personal for +wmFaMS3KAB0-00115-00028212-00028558 me uh helping with Malik Dao we gave +wmFaMS3KAB0-00116-00028560-00028840 tornado their first grant uh I knew the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00117-00028841-00029087 people doing it you know I like them I'm +wmFaMS3KAB0-00118-00029088-00029255 not happy that one of them is sitting in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00119-00029256-00029537 a jail cell right now uh it's not great +wmFaMS3KAB0-00120-00029538-00029896 so I was very angry I was just +wmFaMS3KAB0-00121-00029897-00030029 expressing that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00122-00030030-00030095 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00123-00030095-00030346 on the call uh I think obviously this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00124-00030347-00030658 stuff has far-reaching implications uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00125-00030660-00030989 a lot of the conversation has moved not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00126-00030989-00031139 only from privacy to also the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00127-00031139-00031505 implications of like censorship and uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00128-00031506-00031708 stable coins having censorable +wmFaMS3KAB0-00129-00031710-00032074 collateral and stuff like that and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00130-00032075-00032296 you know I've I've been able to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00131-00032297-00032495 contribute in multiple places in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00132-00032495-00032729 discourse +wmFaMS3KAB0-00133-00032730-00033065 cyber coins having sensible collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00134-00033066-00033293 um that sounds like maker +wmFaMS3KAB0-00135-00033294-00033562 um the other poster child of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00136-00033563-00033767 decentralization in the space which kind +wmFaMS3KAB0-00137-00033768-00033935 of which is an image that has kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00138-00033936-00034217 fractured over the tornado +wmFaMS3KAB0-00139-00034218-00034402 um Fallout a little bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-00140-00034403-00034751 um I really want to talk about this at +wmFaMS3KAB0-00141-00034752-00034961 length but before that I think we kind +wmFaMS3KAB0-00142-00034962-00035152 of need to cover our bases here and kind +wmFaMS3KAB0-00143-00035153-00035435 of understand how Rye works and how it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00144-00035436-00035674 different from maker so maybe I think +wmFaMS3KAB0-00145-00035675-00035909 most listeners will be familiar with how +wmFaMS3KAB0-00146-00035910-00036179 Maker Works and right Builds on a lot of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00147-00036180-00036437 ideas from maker so more specifically +wmFaMS3KAB0-00148-00036438-00036677 the first version of makeup what is now +wmFaMS3KAB0-00149-00036678-00036827 called Psy +wmFaMS3KAB0-00150-00036828-00037090 um so can you talk maybe a little bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-00151-00037091-00037457 going from there and what you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00152-00037458-00037709 talking about the point where you chose +wmFaMS3KAB0-00153-00037710-00038159 um to go on a different path than maker +wmFaMS3KAB0-00154-00038160-00038440 yeah so I was a big maker fan dye fan +wmFaMS3KAB0-00155-00038441-00038795 all through 2018 19 uh smoking couldn't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00156-00038796-00039161 get bank accounts uh and so die was a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00157-00039162-00039359 really great resource for us to be able +wmFaMS3KAB0-00158-00039360-00039677 to not lose all of our money in each uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00159-00039678-00039929 during the bear Market back then I liked +wmFaMS3KAB0-00160-00039930-00040162 it as like cypherpunk money it was like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00161-00040163-00040355 you know only backed by eth there's not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00162-00040356-00040612 a lot of governance uh it just kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00163-00040613-00040715 works +wmFaMS3KAB0-00164-00040716-00040807 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00165-00040808-00041189 uh the motivation to Fork came +wmFaMS3KAB0-00166-00041190-00041524 uh later in 20 I think 20 when they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00167-00041525-00041711 started adding other forms of collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00168-00041712-00041939 they went multi-collateral so they they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00169-00041940-00042245 started loading up on usdc uh and they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00170-00042246-00042515 started uh doing a lot more governance +wmFaMS3KAB0-00171-00042516-00042839 and so I wanted to see what the sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00172-00042840-00042952 pure +wmFaMS3KAB0-00173-00042953-00043271 uh decentralized sort of stable coin +wmFaMS3KAB0-00174-00043272-00043505 could work like and so we forked off of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00175-00043506-00043805 a multi-collateral dye and we made Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00176-00043806-00044057 Rye has only a single form of collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00177-00044058-00044615 just raw eth that it accepts and you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00178-00044616-00044927 deposit the Ethan in Fairly the similar +wmFaMS3KAB0-00179-00044928-00045130 way to Mint Rye the same way you might +wmFaMS3KAB0-00180-00045131-00045533 mint die the key difference between rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00181-00045534-00045724 and die is that in order to maintain +wmFaMS3KAB0-00182-00045725-00046024 stability without having centralized +wmFaMS3KAB0-00183-00046025-00046223 collateral like usdc which allows people +wmFaMS3KAB0-00184-00046224-00046439 to short die against usdc easily and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00185-00046440-00046768 keep die at the peg uh die a rye allows +wmFaMS3KAB0-00186-00046769-00047045 the system to have negative interest +wmFaMS3KAB0-00187-00047046-00047273 rates now that's not like a negative +wmFaMS3KAB0-00188-00047274-00047411 interest rate where you lose money it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00189-00047412-00047530 doesn't turn your hundred dollars into +wmFaMS3KAB0-00190-00047531-00047789 99 the way it works is that it changes +wmFaMS3KAB0-00191-00047790-00048017 the actual Peg price so in all of the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00192-00048018-00048173 other stablecoin systems they have a peg +wmFaMS3KAB0-00193-00048174-00048455 price of one dollar Rye says well +wmFaMS3KAB0-00194-00048456-00048665 actually we're gonna make it less than a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00195-00048666-00048911 dollar and this is a way to incentivize +wmFaMS3KAB0-00196-00048912-00049115 people to sell it and so it does so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00197-00049116-00049462 gradually over time and it expresses the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00198-00049463-00049715 the rate at which it will do so that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00199-00049716-00049858 called the Redemption rate which is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00200-00049859-00050086 shorthand for the rate of change of the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00201-00050087-00050296 Redemption price which itself is like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00202-00050297-00050596 the peg +wmFaMS3KAB0-00203-00050597-00050873 I I feel like maybe before we get into +wmFaMS3KAB0-00204-00050874-00051220 like the exact mechanics of Rye maybe it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00205-00051221-00051382 would be worth to speak a little bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-00206-00051383-00051526 because you because you said you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00207-00051527-00051670 there was like two points right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00208-00051671-00051935 basically that you know bothered you one +wmFaMS3KAB0-00209-00051936-00052180 was there was it became multi-collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00210-00052182-00052438 right and today I think it's something +wmFaMS3KAB0-00211-00052439-00052811 like 70 percent is you know like usdc +wmFaMS3KAB0-00212-00052812-00053165 right in uh in maker and the other thing +wmFaMS3KAB0-00213-00053166-00053459 was like the governance can you talk a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00214-00053460-00053800 little bit maybe like why did you think +wmFaMS3KAB0-00215-00053801-00054142 those were big issues and you know a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00216-00054144-00054430 little bit like sort of the division +wmFaMS3KAB0-00217-00054432-00054857 uh that you saw for Rye uh you know sort +wmFaMS3KAB0-00218-00054858-00055253 of like opposing maker +wmFaMS3KAB0-00219-00055254-00055685 yeah so the the two issues right the the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00220-00055686-00055954 multi-collateral and the governance +wmFaMS3KAB0-00221-00055955-00056285 um so at the time it didn't seem like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00222-00056286-00056488 multi-collateral and like the usdc +wmFaMS3KAB0-00223-00056489-00056794 inflow was gonna be that bad uh right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00224-00056795-00057125 now it's really bad uh right now there's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00225-00057126-00057359 like 20 crypto collateral and like 80 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00226-00057360-00057713 you know usdc and usdc derivatives so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00227-00057714-00057994 it's not entirely unfair to call die +wmFaMS3KAB0-00228-00057995-00058391 like a usdc condom uh you know I I do +wmFaMS3KAB0-00229-00058391-00058619 that I thought it was a safe way to use +wmFaMS3KAB0-00230-00058620-00058876 usdc you know like friends don't use let +wmFaMS3KAB0-00231-00058877-00059104 friends use usdc unprotected +wmFaMS3KAB0-00232-00059105-00059261 um we'll we'll come back to whether or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00233-00059262-00059507 not that's that's still the case but uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00234-00059508-00059776 the the sensor ability of the collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00235-00059777-00060041 is an issue because if for example the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00236-00060041-00060304 usdc has to freeze the die contractor +wmFaMS3KAB0-00237-00060305-00060526 all of the die contract then everybody +wmFaMS3KAB0-00238-00060527-00060899 holding die has to you know is kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00239-00060900-00061091 stuck uh they they need they don't have +wmFaMS3KAB0-00240-00061091-00061306 a way of getting their money back +wmFaMS3KAB0-00241-00061307-00061456 um and the people who have ethernet +wmFaMS3KAB0-00242-00061457-00061691 system are also kind of stuck because +wmFaMS3KAB0-00243-00061691-00061829 they don't have a way of like paying +wmFaMS3KAB0-00244-00061829-00062171 back their debt so it's not great for +wmFaMS3KAB0-00245-00062172-00062279 the system +wmFaMS3KAB0-00246-00062279-00062632 the governance stuff is also something +wmFaMS3KAB0-00247-00062633-00062776 that we wanted to improve on a lot of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00248-00062777-00062921 the governance comes from having +wmFaMS3KAB0-00249-00062922-00063161 multiple forms of collateral needing to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00250-00063162-00063365 manage the different kinds of collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00251-00063366-00063629 and how you you know assign risk to each +wmFaMS3KAB0-00252-00063629-00063892 one what's a stability fee Etc but +wmFaMS3KAB0-00253-00063894-00064079 another thing that you do with the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00254-00064079-00064229 governance is you like vote to set +wmFaMS3KAB0-00255-00064229-00064613 interest rates so whenever die is not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00256-00064614-00064871 stable a bunch of people get together in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00257-00064872-00065129 a meeting and they say we will raise the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00258-00065129-00065387 stability fee to something higher for +wmFaMS3KAB0-00259-00065388-00065663 example if the die is below Peg you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00260-00065664-00065867 so they did this before die went below +wmFaMS3KAB0-00261-00065868-00066059 Peg to like 95 cents and then they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00262-00066060-00066250 raised the civility fee to like 20 and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00263-00066251-00066461 then die repacked so the thing that ride +wmFaMS3KAB0-00264-00066462-00066671 does that's cool is it automates this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00265-00066672-00066965 process and zooming out to like the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00266-00066966-00067211 vision of this thing the vision of this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00267-00067212-00067488 thing is like we want International +wmFaMS3KAB0-00268-00067489-00067829 cooperation on a reserve currency uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00269-00067830-00068081 this has not been my goal for that long +wmFaMS3KAB0-00270-00068082-00068255 it's actually been a stated goal of the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00271-00068256-00068561 center Bankers of the earth who have +wmFaMS3KAB0-00272-00068562-00068765 thought about this for a long time the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00273-00068766-00068909 way that they make progress on this is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00274-00068910-00069149 they write papers +wmFaMS3KAB0-00275-00069150-00069353 in ethereum we can do more than writing +wmFaMS3KAB0-00276-00069354-00069617 papers we can test things and so Rai is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00277-00069618-00069887 a demonstration of a system that has a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00278-00069888-00070206 transparent rules-based engine to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00279-00070207-00070481 stabilize itself that isn't necessarily +wmFaMS3KAB0-00280-00070482-00070763 dependent on a group of people to go and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00281-00070764-00070955 figure it out +wmFaMS3KAB0-00282-00070956-00071255 maybe let me let me let me Loop in here +wmFaMS3KAB0-00283-00071256-00071356 so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00284-00071357-00071831 um make a in its original design also if +wmFaMS3KAB0-00285-00071832-00072167 I require correctly head um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00286-00072168-00072521 um had a Target rate feedback mechanism +wmFaMS3KAB0-00287-00072522-00072875 and they ended up not implementing this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00288-00072876-00073450 um in uh and and it basically ended up +wmFaMS3KAB0-00289-00073451-00073703 introducing this governance uh based +wmFaMS3KAB0-00290-00073704-00074237 parameter do you know why that happened +wmFaMS3KAB0-00291-00074238-00074532 uh yes so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00292-00074533-00074794 basically it was a political thing and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00293-00074795-00075082 it seemed at the time that the dollar +wmFaMS3KAB0-00294-00075083-00075412 Peg was more palatable uh and would get +wmFaMS3KAB0-00295-00075413-00075641 more adoption than letting it float it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00296-00075642-00075929 was like it was a little too weird uh I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00297-00075930-00076043 don't know if people remember at the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00298-00076044-00076181 time like I was sending twenty dollars +wmFaMS3KAB0-00299-00076182-00076493 of e 20th was 20 as like pizza money uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00300-00076494-00076703 the existence of something like die was +wmFaMS3KAB0-00301-00076704-00077021 a a great uh Innovation because it was +wmFaMS3KAB0-00302-00077022-00077279 the first stable coin ever that ethereum +wmFaMS3KAB0-00303-00077280-00077525 people could use to even transact like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00304-00077526-00077962 using a not volatile asset +wmFaMS3KAB0-00305-00077963-00078275 but yeah the the original design had the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00306-00078276-00078473 trfm target rate feedback mechanism that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00307-00078474-00078700 was Nikolai the technical co-founder's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00308-00078701-00079055 plan was not to Peg it uh it it it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00309-00079056-00079288 seemed he lost the political battle and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00310-00079289-00079588 that the pragmatists were more +wmFaMS3KAB0-00311-00079589-00079732 interested in having a dollar Peg +wmFaMS3KAB0-00312-00079733-00080015 because that would help growth uh and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00313-00080016-00080255 maker never really had to deal with this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00314-00080256-00080561 problem of trying to force people to not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00315-00080562-00080975 hold die uh or sell their die if the you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00316-00080976-00081256 know uh if the price of die was above +wmFaMS3KAB0-00317-00081257-00081438 the pack +wmFaMS3KAB0-00318-00081439-00081779 and usdc was also introduced later right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00319-00081780-00081953 it wasn't one of the early collaterals +wmFaMS3KAB0-00320-00081954-00082144 introduced a couple of years ago when +wmFaMS3KAB0-00321-00082145-00082438 prices fell precipitously +wmFaMS3KAB0-00322-00082439-00082626 um it looked like the entire system +wmFaMS3KAB0-00323-00082627-00082876 might collapse at some point and that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00324-00082877-00083099 when they introduced the usdc collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00325-00083100-00083182 right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00326-00083183-00083411 yeah so it was right around black +wmFaMS3KAB0-00327-00083412-00083867 Thursday I think March 12 2020 uh East +wmFaMS3KAB0-00328-00083868-00084226 crashed a lot I think 50 in 24 hours and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00329-00084227-00084550 die spiked up and in order to deal with +wmFaMS3KAB0-00330-00084551-00084797 the excessed item in they added the tag +wmFaMS3KAB0-00331-00084798-00084988 stability module which allows you to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00332-00084989-00085391 Mint uh die against usdc and so that was +wmFaMS3KAB0-00333-00085392-00085661 how they were able to lower the price of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00334-00085662-00085937 die by adding the usdc now I've made +wmFaMS3KAB0-00335-00085938-00086231 memes where I have like maker uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00336-00086232-00086543 introducing the usdc as like a trojan +wmFaMS3KAB0-00337-00086544-00086873 horse for ethereum right uh and it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00338-00086874-00087035 like the caption is like where did it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00339-00087036-00087293 all go wrong and it's like that day uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00340-00087294-00087431 is when it all went wrong it didn't seem +wmFaMS3KAB0-00341-00087432-00087581 like it was going to go all wrong from +wmFaMS3KAB0-00342-00087582-00087971 there uh and you know but like it didn't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00343-00087972-00088138 seem obvious that we were going to end +wmFaMS3KAB0-00344-00088139-00088468 up at like 80 usdc and die uh from that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00345-00088469-00088756 point but for me it was enough to want +wmFaMS3KAB0-00346-00088757-00089009 to try something different and to try +wmFaMS3KAB0-00347-00089010-00089231 and see how far we could get with Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00348-00089232-00089488 let's have um let's continue this uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00349-00089489-00089656 discussion after the technicalities +wmFaMS3KAB0-00350-00089657-00089818 Brian if you don't object because +wmFaMS3KAB0-00351-00089819-00090023 basically in the maker in the maker +wmFaMS3KAB0-00352-00090024-00090143 Forum +wmFaMS3KAB0-00353-00090144-00090329 um there's also discussion currently +wmFaMS3KAB0-00354-00090330-00090491 going on that was started last week by +wmFaMS3KAB0-00355-00090492-00090599 roon +wmFaMS3KAB0-00356-00090600-00090815 um about whether you know to kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00357-00090816-00091121 make die also free-float so basically +wmFaMS3KAB0-00358-00091122-00091355 this is kind of I think there's a larger +wmFaMS3KAB0-00359-00091356-00091541 discussion to have to be had here +wmFaMS3KAB0-00360-00091542-00091679 there's a couple +wmFaMS3KAB0-00361-00091680-00092038 yeah absolutely +wmFaMS3KAB0-00362-00092039-00092171 um so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00363-00092172-00092459 um let's kind of before we kind of look +wmFaMS3KAB0-00364-00092460-00092723 at the exact feedback mechanisms +wmFaMS3KAB0-00365-00092724-00093118 um kind of May I give you my idea of how +wmFaMS3KAB0-00366-00093119-00093311 Rye works and you can correct me because +wmFaMS3KAB0-00367-00093312-00093550 it's it's it's a very counterintuitive +wmFaMS3KAB0-00368-00093551-00094006 and um a little weird mechanism to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-00369-00094007-00094223 honest so basically if if it goes off +wmFaMS3KAB0-00370-00094224-00094493 pack and the pack is arbitrarily chosen +wmFaMS3KAB0-00371-00094494-00094667 so it's not one US dollar but you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00372-00094668-00094997 started it Pi dollars to kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00373-00094998-00095249 to to kind of uh make everyone +wmFaMS3KAB0-00374-00095250-00095518 understand that this is super arbitrary +wmFaMS3KAB0-00375-00095519-00095824 um and then basically the the mechanism +wmFaMS3KAB0-00376-00095825-00096091 that is behind it kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00377-00096092-00096371 tries to push back +wmFaMS3KAB0-00378-00096372-00096743 um the market price to the Redemption uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00379-00096744-00097006 price at any point in time no matter +wmFaMS3KAB0-00380-00097007-00097432 where the uh Redemption price currently +wmFaMS3KAB0-00381-00097433-00097738 is and the way that it does it is it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00382-00097739-00097937 doesn't move the Redemption price closer +wmFaMS3KAB0-00383-00097938-00098182 to the market price it moves it further +wmFaMS3KAB0-00384-00098183-00098309 away which is a little bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-00385-00098310-00098621 counterintuitive can you talk about that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00386-00098622-00099005 yeah so the market price so so the the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00387-00099006-00099167 things happen in like the sequence right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00388-00099168-00099424 it could be like uh the price of eth +wmFaMS3KAB0-00389-00099425-00099706 goes down you know uh the price of uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00390-00099707-00099911 people buy Rye to cover their their +wmFaMS3KAB0-00391-00099912-00100153 debts right now the price of Rise higher +wmFaMS3KAB0-00392-00100154-00100576 uh and so well the price of Rye being +wmFaMS3KAB0-00393-00100577-00100756 higher you need to get people to sell +wmFaMS3KAB0-00394-00100757-00101038 the Rye uh or you need to get more +wmFaMS3KAB0-00395-00101039-00101356 people to Mint right uh and sell it the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00396-00101357-00101524 way the protocol does that is it moves +wmFaMS3KAB0-00397-00101525-00101753 the peg price down away from the market +wmFaMS3KAB0-00398-00101754-00101974 price as you said so if the market price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00399-00101975-00102131 starts out at you know let's say three +wmFaMS3KAB0-00400-00102132-00102449 dollars and the uh and it's at +wmFaMS3KAB0-00401-00102450-00102599 equilibrium at three dollars and it goes +wmFaMS3KAB0-00402-00102600-00102802 up by you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00403-00102803-00103030 let's say five percent or something +wmFaMS3KAB0-00404-00103031-00103294 that's like three dollars and I don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00405-00103295-00103516 know uh one percent three cents of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00406-00103517-00103828 fifteen cents uh well that's a lot uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00407-00103829-00103997 and so that's gonna set a negative rate +wmFaMS3KAB0-00408-00103998-00104201 and so what's gonna happen next is that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00409-00104202-00104410 the peg that started at three dollars is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00410-00104411-00104710 actually gonna start dropping 299 298 uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00411-00104711-00105052 at a specified rate and so this is going +wmFaMS3KAB0-00412-00105053-00105293 to create the incentive for people +wmFaMS3KAB0-00413-00105294-00105490 holding Rye to realize that they should +wmFaMS3KAB0-00414-00105491-00105784 sell it because in the future uh not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00415-00105785-00105989 only is the price going to go lower but +wmFaMS3KAB0-00416-00105990-00106151 if the price goes lower and they don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00417-00106152-00106283 sell it then the price is going to go +wmFaMS3KAB0-00418-00106283-00106463 lower faster so it's kind of an +wmFaMS3KAB0-00419-00106464-00106589 exponential function that you're +wmFaMS3KAB0-00420-00106590-00106823 throwing in front of this thing uh and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00421-00106824-00107063 it's basically like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00422-00107064-00107290 you know we'll keep growing until it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00423-00107291-00107615 resolves the question on this so so the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00424-00107616-00107860 price is at 315 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00425-00107861-00108184 and now this Redemption +wmFaMS3KAB0-00426-00108185-00108395 now it's already different right from +wmFaMS3KAB0-00427-00108396-00108533 this pack +wmFaMS3KAB0-00428-00108533-00108773 right so the peg was at with three and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00429-00108774-00109145 it puts trading at 315 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00430-00109146-00109804 and now it's decreased to 298 I mean why +wmFaMS3KAB0-00431-00109805-00109999 um why do I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00432-00110000-00110345 believe that the price in the future is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00433-00110346-00110508 going to go down +wmFaMS3KAB0-00434-00110509-00111202 uh because the peg price is lowered +wmFaMS3KAB0-00435-00111203-00111347 um well +wmFaMS3KAB0-00436-00111348-00111551 if it doesn't it's going to keep going +wmFaMS3KAB0-00437-00111552-00111701 down faster +wmFaMS3KAB0-00438-00111702-00112013 so like you might stare at uh you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00439-00112014-00112223 negative I don't know something like 30 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00440-00112224-00112469 rate if you have a five percent +wmFaMS3KAB0-00441-00112470-00112733 difference uh and the sort of what it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00442-00112733-00112901 tuned it's like one to six one to seven +wmFaMS3KAB0-00443-00112902-00113158 in terms of like one percent uh error +wmFaMS3KAB0-00444-00113159-00113519 will drive a six or seven percent uh you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00445-00113520-00113710 know rate and so like let's say you're +wmFaMS3KAB0-00446-00113711-00113963 staring at a negative 30 rate well you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00447-00113964-00114113 know that as soon as the price goes back +wmFaMS3KAB0-00448-00114114-00114269 to three or you know whatever the new +wmFaMS3KAB0-00449-00114270-00114413 Redemption price is that the rate's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00450-00114414-00114634 gonna go away but so long as it doesn't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00451-00114635-00114815 that rate's going to keep growing and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00452-00114816-00114947 the price is just going to keep dropping +wmFaMS3KAB0-00453-00114948-00115252 and uh this is a good deal if you have +wmFaMS3KAB0-00454-00115253-00115552 minted rye and you're shorting Rye uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00455-00115553-00115684 because for me as somebody who's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00456-00115685-00115919 shorting Rye my debt is shrinking which +wmFaMS3KAB0-00457-00115920-00116045 is sort of the same thing as making +wmFaMS3KAB0-00458-00116046-00116369 money uh as a rye holder +wmFaMS3KAB0-00459-00116370-00116501 uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00460-00116502-00116758 you know maybe I have the expectation +wmFaMS3KAB0-00461-00116759-00116951 that the market price won't catch up to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00462-00116952-00117275 the Redemption price but if it does uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00463-00117276-00117521 then I stand to lose a lot of money uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00464-00117522-00117695 and the way the system's designed is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00465-00117696-00117815 that the rates just keep getting +wmFaMS3KAB0-00466-00117816-00118043 stronger if it doesn't so it's it's sort +wmFaMS3KAB0-00467-00118044-00118228 of like you know don't fight the FED we +wmFaMS3KAB0-00468-00118229-00118373 have our own version which is the money +wmFaMS3KAB0-00469-00118374-00118769 God always wins uh you can hold the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00470-00118770-00119099 price you know high or low if you want +wmFaMS3KAB0-00471-00119100-00119333 for a while but the end result is just +wmFaMS3KAB0-00472-00119333-00119651 going to be that the net change in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00473-00119652-00119963 Redemption price uh you know the peg is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00474-00119964-00120136 going to move even further against you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00475-00120138-00120347 when you try to hold the market price I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00476-00120348-00120569 still don't fully understand how the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00477-00120570-00120881 Redemption price being lowered forces +wmFaMS3KAB0-00478-00120882-00121102 the market price to get lower +wmFaMS3KAB0-00479-00121103-00121349 so it creates an expectation that the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00480-00121350-00121577 price of lie will be Rye would be lower +wmFaMS3KAB0-00481-00121578-00121828 in the future but why +wmFaMS3KAB0-00482-00121829-00122158 because the rate is negative and so you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00483-00122159-00122375 either well you either expect that the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00484-00122376-00122495 market price will catch up to the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00485-00122496-00122657 ramsham price or you don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00486-00122658-00123004 right uh if you don't you will just be +wmFaMS3KAB0-00487-00123005-00123293 educated uh because the market price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00488-00123294-00123431 will eventually catch up to the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00489-00123432-00123652 Redemption price because the money got +wmFaMS3KAB0-00490-00123653-00123964 always wins uh because at some point the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00491-00123965-00124163 rates are so strong that somebody's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00492-00124164-00124343 going to take it right let's say you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00493-00124344-00124534 ignore the rates let's say you're you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00494-00124535-00124769 hold all the the Rye let's say you're +wmFaMS3KAB0-00495-00124770-00124936 the one who bought up ride of three one +wmFaMS3KAB0-00496-00124938-00125164 five right five percent above the peg +wmFaMS3KAB0-00497-00125165-00125410 right now you get to sit there and wait +wmFaMS3KAB0-00498-00125411-00125699 as the the Redemption price gets lower +wmFaMS3KAB0-00499-00125700-00125939 and lower and so at first it was you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00500-00125940-00126166 know a five percent error then if Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00501-00126167-00126328 goes down the Redemption price goes down +wmFaMS3KAB0-00502-00126329-00126581 another you know 15 cents now it's a 10 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00503-00126582-00126881 error and so now that rate that was 30 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00504-00126882-00127108 is now something like double that you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00505-00127109-00127349 know something like sixty percent uh and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00506-00127350-00127589 that process only takes like with the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00507-00127590-00127781 current Pro like controller tuning only +wmFaMS3KAB0-00508-00127782-00128086 like a month or two uh to fully offset a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00509-00128088-00128434 gap in the market price by the same Gap +wmFaMS3KAB0-00510-00128435-00128651 in the Redemption price so you're +wmFaMS3KAB0-00511-00128652-00128854 staring at the rates doubling in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00512-00128855-00129034 something like you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00513-00129035-00129443 uh a month or two and if the initial +wmFaMS3KAB0-00514-00129444-00129784 rates didn't work maybe the the stronger +wmFaMS3KAB0-00515-00129785-00130066 rates will right and that process +wmFaMS3KAB0-00516-00130067-00130439 doesn't stop uh until the market returns +wmFaMS3KAB0-00517-00130440-00130613 to equilibrium +wmFaMS3KAB0-00518-00130614-00130936 so you can take the trade you just might +wmFaMS3KAB0-00519-00130938-00131309 not like how it goes you know it's uh in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00520-00131310-00131554 other words uh if you're trying to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00521-00131555-00131801 manipulate the price of Rye it should be +wmFaMS3KAB0-00522-00131802-00132178 expensive for you if you are trying to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00523-00132179-00132347 cause the Redemption price to go up or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00524-00132348-00132628 down you have to do something that the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00525-00132629-00132845 market actually punishes you to do +wmFaMS3KAB0-00526-00132846-00133169 and so everyone else who is aligned with +wmFaMS3KAB0-00527-00133170-00133354 stabilizing rye back to its Redemption +wmFaMS3KAB0-00528-00133355-00133433 price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00529-00133434-00133678 tends to make money and you would lose +wmFaMS3KAB0-00530-00133679-00133889 money because +wmFaMS3KAB0-00531-00133890-00134087 at some point in the future if you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00532-00134088-00134278 right the market price does eventually +wmFaMS3KAB0-00533-00134279-00134578 go back to you know 285 or whatever the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00534-00134579-00134783 final uh Redemption price is like you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00535-00134784-00135011 just lost that whole Delta +wmFaMS3KAB0-00536-00135012-00135347 as a rye holder so yeah I believe that I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00537-00135348-00135490 have no problems believing that I think +wmFaMS3KAB0-00538-00135491-00135743 that works it's kind of like a gyroscope +wmFaMS3KAB0-00539-00135744-00135904 that kind of writes itself right so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00540-00135905-00136037 basically it wobbles more and then it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00541-00136038-00136247 wobbles less so I think I think I buy +wmFaMS3KAB0-00542-00136248-00136595 that part the thing that I don't fully +wmFaMS3KAB0-00543-00136596-00136840 understand I mean +wmFaMS3KAB0-00544-00136841-00137075 um is I mean +wmFaMS3KAB0-00545-00137076-00137345 you have oracles built in right so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00546-00137346-00137671 basically clearly the the the protocol +wmFaMS3KAB0-00547-00137672-00138107 cares about the price ratio of eth to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00548-00138108-00138299 the US dollar +wmFaMS3KAB0-00549-00138300-00138809 um so how so basically cares about that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00550-00138810-00139289 ratio albeit not the value itself so in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00551-00139290-00139463 as how much +wmFaMS3KAB0-00552-00139464-00139528 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00553-00139529-00139793 does this mean that uh that the US +wmFaMS3KAB0-00554-00139794-00140104 dollar is is still influences the system +wmFaMS3KAB0-00555-00140105-00140321 right so basically it's not pegged to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00556-00140322-00140537 the US dollar but it is somehow +wmFaMS3KAB0-00557-00140538-00140693 correlated right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00558-00140694-00140902 yeah this is a thing we've also learned +wmFaMS3KAB0-00559-00140903-00141316 is that rye referencing the dollar still +wmFaMS3KAB0-00560-00141317-00141616 makes it a dollar denominated asset you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00561-00141617-00141821 know it has the ability to float away +wmFaMS3KAB0-00562-00141822-00142163 from the dollar go up 10 20 50 you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00563-00142164-00142409 or down uh the equivalent +wmFaMS3KAB0-00564-00142410-00142702 um but it still is subject to the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00565-00142703-00143033 esoteric dollar swings in the market +wmFaMS3KAB0-00566-00143034-00143321 right if the Dollar by itself one day +wmFaMS3KAB0-00567-00143322-00143621 became stronger or weaker uh that would +wmFaMS3KAB0-00568-00143622-00144011 you know somewhat reflect in the uh Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00569-00144012-00144376 uh trajectory right it won't uh it won't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00570-00144377-00144640 show up in the market price probably as +wmFaMS3KAB0-00571-00144641-00145043 quickly but uh it'll you know if if the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00572-00145044-00145175 dollar is strengthening right might +wmFaMS3KAB0-00573-00145176-00145313 weaken against the dollar if the dollar +wmFaMS3KAB0-00574-00145314-00145463 is weakening Ryan might strengthen +wmFaMS3KAB0-00575-00145464-00145589 against the dollar +wmFaMS3KAB0-00576-00145590-00145949 okay so basically if you look at the um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00577-00145950-00146285 the decline of the right price from 3.14 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00578-00146286-00146614 dollars to currently 2.90 or so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00579-00146615-00146897 um that would that would reflect +wmFaMS3KAB0-00580-00146898-00147016 um a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00581-00147017-00147109 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00582-00147110-00147401 a strengthening of the dollar and the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00583-00147402-00147640 weakening of the East price right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00584-00147641-00147863 you have to be really careful to explain +wmFaMS3KAB0-00585-00147864-00148252 Ryan macroeconomic uh terms because Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00586-00148253-00148643 is so small that the incentives for Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00587-00148644-00148883 holders are typically vastly greater +wmFaMS3KAB0-00588-00148884-00149093 than any sort of macroeconomic +wmFaMS3KAB0-00589-00149094-00149309 incentives for example the greatest +wmFaMS3KAB0-00590-00149310-00149537 price change in Rye happened in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00591-00149538-00149797 first three weeks uh and it was sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00592-00149798-00150113 we effectively sponsored an attack on +wmFaMS3KAB0-00593-00150114-00150376 our own system by offering flx +wmFaMS3KAB0-00594-00150377-00150814 incentives to ride uh LPS without +wmFaMS3KAB0-00595-00150815-00150997 requiring any sort of minting +wmFaMS3KAB0-00596-00150998-00151325 requirement which now most of our uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00597-00151326-00151552 liquidity incentives require is that you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00598-00151553-00151721 also meant the Rye that you're lping +wmFaMS3KAB0-00599-00151722-00151997 what we inadvertently did in the first +wmFaMS3KAB0-00600-00151998-00152387 three weeks was uh basically pump +wmFaMS3KAB0-00601-00152388-00152723 millions of dollars into uh holding you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00602-00152724-00152957 know for people to hold Rye uh by +wmFaMS3KAB0-00603-00152958-00153131 offering incentives for the LPS and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00604-00153132-00153239 people +wmFaMS3KAB0-00605-00153240-00153431 minted some rice some people initially +wmFaMS3KAB0-00606-00153432-00153593 did and then the rest of them went and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00607-00153594-00153802 they bought Rye off the market to LP it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00608-00153803-00154031 and then somebody else comes along buys +wmFaMS3KAB0-00609-00154032-00154289 that rye off the market to LP it uh and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00610-00154290-00154390 they all +wmFaMS3KAB0-00611-00154391-00154643 you know uh pumped up the price of Rye I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00612-00154644-00155087 think like 10 12 13 above the peg so it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00613-00155088-00155428 started at 3.14 it was like 3.3 you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00614-00155429-00155771 uh at some points and then +wmFaMS3KAB0-00615-00155772-00156059 uh it took us three weeks to figure out +wmFaMS3KAB0-00616-00156060-00156281 how to fix that and then once we fixed +wmFaMS3KAB0-00617-00156282-00156652 the incentive uh the the you know it's a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00618-00156653-00156923 requirement it went back to Flat uh the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00619-00156924-00157169 flat uh was around three dollars at that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00620-00157170-00157289 time so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00621-00157290-00157535 um much of the you know about five +wmFaMS3KAB0-00622-00157536-00158009 percent of of uh the the Rye Redemption +wmFaMS3KAB0-00623-00158010-00158249 price uh uh the ride Redemption price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00624-00158250-00158416 lowered by about five percent in those +wmFaMS3KAB0-00625-00158417-00158573 three weeks because the rates were like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00626-00158574-00158861 negative 70. uh the controller was also +wmFaMS3KAB0-00627-00158862-00159125 a little bit stronger and we to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-00628-00159126-00159263 absolutely clear like we thought that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00629-00159264-00159485 people were being irrational in in doing +wmFaMS3KAB0-00630-00159486-00159749 that but it turns out because some of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00631-00159750-00160001 those people you know flx opened it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00632-00160002-00160223 whatever a thousand when it did uh they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00633-00160224-00160504 were sort of being rational in that they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00634-00160505-00160726 were able to like play their Ponzi game +wmFaMS3KAB0-00635-00160727-00161057 and like exit the LP for some of them +wmFaMS3KAB0-00636-00161058-00161387 before you know the the price of Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00637-00161388-00161711 declined and the you know the flx that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00638-00161712-00161902 they were able to get was more than that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00639-00161903-00162004 so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00640-00162005-00162281 long story short we're learning to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-00641-00162282-00162521 more careful about how the incentives +wmFaMS3KAB0-00642-00162522-00162863 can warp the perceptions of how the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00643-00162864-00163097 system is working to most people who are +wmFaMS3KAB0-00644-00163098-00163378 using it they sort of know this uh but +wmFaMS3KAB0-00645-00163379-00163571 to somebody who's on the outside you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00646-00163572-00163702 could very easily look at it and be like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00647-00163703-00164195 ah it's the dollar +wmFaMS3KAB0-00648-00164196-00164393 Yeah so basically you kind of you screw +wmFaMS3KAB0-00649-00164394-00164657 Ed it up with your own incentives but in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00650-00164658-00164993 a way the market does this for you all +wmFaMS3KAB0-00651-00164994-00165173 the time right so basically if you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00652-00165174-00165401 actually have to rely on fairly +wmFaMS3KAB0-00653-00165402-00165707 sensitive Market feedback kind of are +wmFaMS3KAB0-00654-00165708-00165995 the actualities that you can price in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00655-00165996-00166151 um kind of have an effect on you anyway +wmFaMS3KAB0-00656-00166152-00166354 so for instance currently +wmFaMS3KAB0-00657-00166355-00166588 um if if you hold eth they are fairly +wmFaMS3KAB0-00658-00166589-00166823 lucrative things you can do with it at +wmFaMS3KAB0-00659-00166824-00167045 zero risk so basically kind of stake it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00660-00167046-00167249 for instance and that gives you like a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00661-00167250-00167464 guaranteed even if you liquid mistake +wmFaMS3KAB0-00662-00167465-00167651 gives you like a guaranteed like four or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00663-00167652-00167764 five percent +wmFaMS3KAB0-00664-00167765-00167999 um so basically if you have anything +wmFaMS3KAB0-00665-00168000-00168388 less if you stand to make anything less +wmFaMS3KAB0-00666-00168389-00168616 than that does your mechanism still work +wmFaMS3KAB0-00667-00168617-00168947 or is it kind of screwed by that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00668-00168948-00169175 so I don't think any of these things +wmFaMS3KAB0-00669-00169176-00169537 screw the mechanism to be totally clear +wmFaMS3KAB0-00670-00169538-00170009 Rye works with a negative 20 rate +wmFaMS3KAB0-00671-00170010-00170314 forever right works with a plus 20 rate +wmFaMS3KAB0-00672-00170315-00170626 forever Rye works with you know zero +wmFaMS3KAB0-00673-00170627-00171251 percent rate forever like okay fat but +wmFaMS3KAB0-00674-00171252-00171478 uh that's a different question +wmFaMS3KAB0-00675-00171479-00171814 um because you know you could +wmFaMS3KAB0-00676-00171815-00172199 uh it attractive to who is is a good +wmFaMS3KAB0-00677-00172200-00172338 question right so like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00678-00172339-00172888 for people who have eth and who have the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00679-00172889-00173152 opportunity to you know get liquid +wmFaMS3KAB0-00680-00173153-00173351 staking returns of whatever four or five +wmFaMS3KAB0-00681-00173352-00173585 percent as he said uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00682-00173586-00173873 they would possibly need you know more +wmFaMS3KAB0-00683-00173874-00174221 incentive to Mint Rye uh and so the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00684-00174222-00174371 existence of steak teeth in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00685-00174372-00174538 ecosystem and the fact that rye does not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00686-00174539-00174701 accept steak to eat this collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00687-00174702-00174904 creates an opportunity cost for anybody +wmFaMS3KAB0-00688-00174905-00175193 depositing eth into the Rye system and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00689-00175194-00175361 so that makes it so that they might want +wmFaMS3KAB0-00690-00175362-00175649 to get paid more to do so and so they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00691-00175650-00175931 might prefer a negative rate in this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00692-00175932-00176237 sense rise very like Farm to Table uh in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00693-00176238-00176381 terms of its stability like you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00694-00176382-00176573 exactly where your yield is coming from +wmFaMS3KAB0-00695-00176574-00176878 like your yield is coming from the Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00696-00176879-00177166 holders who are paying you to Mint a you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00697-00177167-00177461 know Rye against your eth uh if the rate +wmFaMS3KAB0-00698-00177462-00177743 is higher that means the eth depositors +wmFaMS3KAB0-00699-00177744-00177947 are demanding more or if the rate is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00700-00177948-00178126 more negative right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00701-00178127-00178397 uh and if the rate is positive that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00702-00178398-00178769 means the you know eth uh depositing Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00703-00178770-00179063 mentors are actually paying to mintry +wmFaMS3KAB0-00704-00179064-00179416 so it balances the supply and demand for +wmFaMS3KAB0-00705-00179417-00179687 the asset itself yeah I understand I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00706-00179688-00179831 mean I understand that basically it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00707-00179832-00180137 doesn't make or destroy money I totally +wmFaMS3KAB0-00708-00180138-00180352 get this it's a conservative system in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00709-00180353-00180569 that in that sense but basically on the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00710-00180570-00180749 flip side it means currently you have to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00711-00180750-00180935 pay like 14 and a half percent to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00712-00180936-00181163 actually hold right which seems +wmFaMS3KAB0-00713-00181164-00181438 unattractive to me so who who are the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00714-00181439-00181781 people who actually hold right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00715-00181782-00182093 yeah uh it's a good question and Rise +wmFaMS3KAB0-00716-00182094-00182333 market cap has obviously shrunk a lot uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00717-00182334-00182645 having it you know only backed by youth +wmFaMS3KAB0-00718-00182646-00182957 means that uh when eth goes down your +wmFaMS3KAB0-00719-00182958-00183173 economic bandwidth is also reduced and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00720-00183174-00183407 you know the market cap sort of shrinks +wmFaMS3KAB0-00721-00183408-00183628 uh necessarily +wmFaMS3KAB0-00722-00183629-00183911 um there's about 15 ish million Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00723-00183912-00184259 outstanding uh the people holding it are +wmFaMS3KAB0-00724-00184260-00184547 typically either lping it or Dows that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00725-00184548-00184823 want to be holding it uh DX Dao was +wmFaMS3KAB0-00726-00184824-00184978 until recently one of the largest +wmFaMS3KAB0-00727-00184979-00185254 holders but the negative rates you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00728-00185255-00185716 uh cause them to sell and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00729-00185717-00185783 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00730-00185784-00186209 you know it's it's not going to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-00731-00186210-00186413 like Rye isn't going to be friendliest +wmFaMS3KAB0-00732-00186414-00186628 towards the largest group of people it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00733-00186629-00186761 going to be friendliest for the people +wmFaMS3KAB0-00734-00186762-00186976 who care the most about decentralization +wmFaMS3KAB0-00735-00186977-00187349 right so it's if you if usdc works for +wmFaMS3KAB0-00736-00187350-00187523 you if you're not worried about you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00737-00187524-00187721 blacklisting or having your collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00738-00187722-00187978 blacklisted then like you know usdc or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00739-00187979-00188321 die could work for you if you care a lot +wmFaMS3KAB0-00740-00188322-00188543 about you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00741-00188544-00188854 uh the collateral type and you also want +wmFaMS3KAB0-00742-00188855-00189113 to to know like have some degree of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00743-00189114-00189383 predictability in the trajectory then +wmFaMS3KAB0-00744-00189384-00189743 Rye might be for you so we mentioned or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00745-00189744-00189911 Federica mentioned I think you both +wmFaMS3KAB0-00746-00189912-00190097 mentioned state if +wmFaMS3KAB0-00747-00190098-00190361 I guess accepting sticky fast collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00748-00190362-00190843 would undermine a bit right this sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00749-00190844-00191093 trustlessness nature no because you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00750-00191094-00191261 you're gonna have like some dependency +wmFaMS3KAB0-00751-00191262-00191525 on how lighter down and stuff but of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00752-00191526-00191681 course at the same time it will make it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00753-00191682-00191759 like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00754-00191760-00192076 much more attractive to like mintry +wmFaMS3KAB0-00755-00192077-00192275 is like how do you think about that is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00756-00192276-00192449 this something that like if you're like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00757-00192450-00192678 definitely not or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00758-00192679-00192928 maybe at some point we used to think +wmFaMS3KAB0-00759-00192929-00193049 about that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00760-00193050-00193307 now we don't think about that uh we +wmFaMS3KAB0-00761-00193308-00193499 already Froze all of the collaterals so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00762-00193500-00193804 Rye can only ever be backed by youth uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00763-00193805-00194045 we actually can't change that anymore +wmFaMS3KAB0-00764-00194046-00194297 um I think it steath is good collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00765-00194298-00194495 uh it might not be good for what we're +wmFaMS3KAB0-00766-00194496-00194764 trying to do with Rye which is just try +wmFaMS3KAB0-00767-00194765-00195095 to minimize the surface area for attacks +wmFaMS3KAB0-00768-00195096-00195419 and like having staked eth as a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00769-00195420-00195719 collateral type makes it you know you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00770-00195720-00196000 somewhat have to be dependent on Lido's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00771-00196001-00196175 governance like working well and them +wmFaMS3KAB0-00772-00196176-00196343 not screwing anything up or having any +wmFaMS3KAB0-00773-00196344-00196595 sort of like attacks or hacks or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00774-00196596-00196888 existential you know threats +wmFaMS3KAB0-00775-00196889-00197135 um whereas when you only use eth as +wmFaMS3KAB0-00776-00197136-00197326 collateral you have the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00777-00197327-00197513 you know as long as ethereum's working +wmFaMS3KAB0-00778-00197514-00197837 seemingly it'll be okay so less +wmFaMS3KAB0-00779-00197838-00197981 dependency +wmFaMS3KAB0-00780-00197982-00198311 of course it could drive more growth +wmFaMS3KAB0-00781-00198312-00198545 um personally I think that a better +wmFaMS3KAB0-00782-00198546-00198869 opportunity is to just make more Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00783-00198870-00199114 like things uh I don't think that rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00784-00199115-00199319 will be the last Rye like thing I think +wmFaMS3KAB0-00785-00199320-00199540 for Rye to work uh there will be more +wmFaMS3KAB0-00786-00199541-00199811 Rye like things and by Rye like things I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00787-00199812-00200057 just mean stable coins that aren't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00788-00200058-00200285 necessarily pegged to the dollar stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-00789-00200286-00200525 coins that have mechanisms that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00790-00200526-00200687 stabilize themselves whether their +wmFaMS3KAB0-00791-00200688-00200933 controller works exactly like rise or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00792-00200934-00201214 not is sort of a optimization problem +wmFaMS3KAB0-00793-00201215-00201478 you know you deal with later once you've +wmFaMS3KAB0-00794-00201479-00201695 already decided to not have a peg that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00795-00201696-00201773 already +wmFaMS3KAB0-00796-00201774-00202121 you know the first step so I think there +wmFaMS3KAB0-00797-00202122-00202307 could be more Rye like systems we might +wmFaMS3KAB0-00798-00202308-00202564 even help launch them uh or contribute +wmFaMS3KAB0-00799-00202565-00202702 to launching them +wmFaMS3KAB0-00800-00202703-00202931 um on other you know even on layer twos +wmFaMS3KAB0-00801-00202932-00203128 that have like steak teeth and more +wmFaMS3KAB0-00802-00203129-00203333 forms of collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-00803-00203334-00203500 um it was it was pretty expensive to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00804-00203501-00203650 have lots of forms of collateral on +wmFaMS3KAB0-00805-00203651-00203861 ethereum last summer too because the gas +wmFaMS3KAB0-00806-00203862-00204071 was so high and you need to spend gas +wmFaMS3KAB0-00807-00204072-00204275 for all the price feeds and things yeah +wmFaMS3KAB0-00808-00204276-00204754 so one thing I'm curious about about you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00809-00204755-00204934 know with regards to the right price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00810-00204935-00205288 right so ride price started at 3.14 now +wmFaMS3KAB0-00811-00205289-00205710 it's 2.92 uh or something like that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00812-00205711-00206123 he like in the long run +wmFaMS3KAB0-00813-00206123-00206458 like what would I mean could it go to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00814-00206459-00206855 one dollar or five dollars or like in in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00815-00206856-00207119 what would determine that like if let's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00816-00207119-00207388 say if I was like someone is like I want +wmFaMS3KAB0-00817-00207389-00207682 to hold you know some Assets in you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00818-00207683-00207923 like a crypto stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-00819-00207923-00208210 coin and you know I I would like to have +wmFaMS3KAB0-00820-00208211-00208529 it there for like five years and you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00821-00208530-00208703 know not have to worry about it and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00822-00208704-00209032 maybe maybe if the dollar like I don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00823-00209033-00209177 know hyperinflates at some point +wmFaMS3KAB0-00824-00209178-00209321 probably not gonna happen next five +wmFaMS3KAB0-00825-00209321-00209621 years but at some point I guess uh you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00826-00209621-00209758 know I would like not that to happen +wmFaMS3KAB0-00827-00209759-00209951 with you know I would like to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-00828-00209952-00210256 protected from that it's it's right a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00829-00210257-00210575 solution for this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00830-00210576-00210982 I would say it depends uh stability is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00831-00210983-00211271 really in the eye of the beholder uh if +wmFaMS3KAB0-00832-00211271-00211534 you think that like in five years the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00833-00211535-00211691 dollar is still a dollar then like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00834-00211692-00211942 You're Gonna Want dollar stable coins +wmFaMS3KAB0-00835-00211944-00212219 it's Rye is weird for me because people +wmFaMS3KAB0-00836-00212219-00212356 are like I don't get it I don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00837-00212357-00212482 understand it's like long-term price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00838-00212483-00212710 trajectory you know and I'm like I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00839-00212711-00213101 perfectly understand it's long-term uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00840-00213102-00213298 you know price trajectory I just don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-00841-00213300-00213551 understand the intermediate Market uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00842-00213552-00213742 things that might have to happen to to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00843-00213744-00213982 move it around like I can perfectly +wmFaMS3KAB0-00844-00213983-00214198 predict what the Rye Redemption price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00845-00214200-00214451 will do from the market activity right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00846-00214452-00214679 if you want to make Rye a dollar that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00847-00214680-00214984 easy simply hold it above the peg for a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00848-00214985-00215201 couple years and it'll get there you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00849-00215202-00215471 know it'll devalue itself 30 40 every +wmFaMS3KAB0-00850-00215471-00215669 year we had this funny conversation on +wmFaMS3KAB0-00851-00215669-00215842 Twitter I was like should we rebase ride +wmFaMS3KAB0-00852-00215844-00216089 to a dollar right vitalik thinks so a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00853-00216090-00216269 couple other people chimed in and they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00854-00216269-00216479 they think so Eric Wall was mad at us he +wmFaMS3KAB0-00855-00216480-00216653 was calling Rye autistic money and we're +wmFaMS3KAB0-00856-00216654-00216869 like yeah well you know what we are +wmFaMS3KAB0-00857-00216869-00217079 autistic and we can stay autistic longer +wmFaMS3KAB0-00858-00217080-00217421 than you can stay so uh you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00859-00217421-00217553 know what's the argument for not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00860-00217554-00217721 rebasing right to a dollar why didn't we +wmFaMS3KAB0-00861-00217721-00217858 start it at a dollar in the first place +wmFaMS3KAB0-00862-00217859-00217937 right +wmFaMS3KAB0-00863-00217938-00218201 and the the point is that rye is not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00864-00218202-00218381 mean reverting he doesn't actually care +wmFaMS3KAB0-00865-00218382-00218542 about what it's like initial starting +wmFaMS3KAB0-00866-00218544-00218879 point is so uh what might happen if Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-00867-00218880-00219010 started at a dollar is that it could +wmFaMS3KAB0-00868-00219011-00219221 like Drop to 95 cents and then people +wmFaMS3KAB0-00869-00219221-00219389 would buy it because they think that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00870-00219390-00219551 that would make it it's supposed to go +wmFaMS3KAB0-00871-00219552-00219706 back to a dollar it's a dollar stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-00872-00219707-00219917 coin and like that's not how it works in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00873-00219917-00220384 fact by buying Rye you know uh at 90 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00874-00220385-00220589 like if the Redemption price is 95 cents +wmFaMS3KAB0-00875-00220590-00220877 like you might make it go down faster +wmFaMS3KAB0-00876-00220878-00220998 so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00877-00221000-00221344 Rye is designed uh once again to to to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00878-00221346-00221651 like be predictable in terms of how it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00879-00221652-00221867 responds to the market +wmFaMS3KAB0-00880-00221867-00221921 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00881-00221921-00222065 and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00882-00222066-00222355 if over five years you think you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00883-00222356-00222605 like the market is just like always +wmFaMS3KAB0-00884-00222606-00222875 above the the Rye Market's always uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00885-00222876-00223060 above the peg then the Redemption price +wmFaMS3KAB0-00886-00223061-00223306 always going to go down uh and it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00887-00223307-00223558 gonna you know slowly devalue in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00888-00223559-00223727 flip side of that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00889-00223728-00223937 let's say we get to the hyperinflation +wmFaMS3KAB0-00890-00223938-00224125 scenario people like to talk about this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00891-00224126-00224356 uh the thing that I would expect to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00892-00224357-00224669 happen is that rye would roughly be uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-00893-00224669-00224992 in equilibrium with the rates in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00894-00224994-00225239 ecosystem to borrow against ether +wmFaMS3KAB0-00895-00225240-00225563 so I would be surprised in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00896-00225564-00225829 hyperinflation scenario where we expect +wmFaMS3KAB0-00897-00225830-00226271 like the dollar to drop you know 50 75 +wmFaMS3KAB0-00898-00226271-00226444 whatever percent over the course of a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00899-00226446-00226696 year maybe more if the rates to borrow +wmFaMS3KAB0-00900-00226698-00227015 die were at like 10 20 you know the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00901-00227016-00227219 stability fee wasn't like 10 20 because +wmFaMS3KAB0-00902-00227219-00227639 in theorem it should depeg right uh they +wmFaMS3KAB0-00903-00227640-00227825 should have to raise the stability fee +wmFaMS3KAB0-00904-00227826-00228125 to keep die from depegging and likewise +wmFaMS3KAB0-00905-00228126-00228232 you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00906-00228233-00228437 everywhere else in the ecosystem we +wmFaMS3KAB0-00907-00228438-00228689 should see like pretty high uh borrow +wmFaMS3KAB0-00908-00228690-00228905 rates against ether for dollar +wmFaMS3KAB0-00909-00228906-00229091 denominated assets so I would expect +wmFaMS3KAB0-00910-00229092-00229325 ride to roughly be in equilibrium with +wmFaMS3KAB0-00911-00229326-00229648 those dollar denominated uh the the debt +wmFaMS3KAB0-00912-00229650-00229906 rates the debt interest rates so is that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00913-00229907-00230032 going to completely offset +wmFaMS3KAB0-00914-00230033-00230279 hyperinflation I don't think so uh would +wmFaMS3KAB0-00915-00230280-00230494 it somewhat offset hyperinflation +wmFaMS3KAB0-00916-00230496-00230842 seems possible maybe even likely +wmFaMS3KAB0-00917-00230844-00231221 okay but like you know you said sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-00918-00231221-00231473 like okay you know Rai reflects the this +wmFaMS3KAB0-00919-00231473-00231773 the market of Ryan the trading and but +wmFaMS3KAB0-00920-00231773-00231965 like let's say in the in the example I +wmFaMS3KAB0-00921-00231966-00232163 made like okay I just want to have some +wmFaMS3KAB0-00922-00232164-00232391 sort of decentralized crypto +wmFaMS3KAB0-00923-00232392-00232642 you know stable coin like I have no idea +wmFaMS3KAB0-00924-00232644-00232858 of like are people gonna be is it going +wmFaMS3KAB0-00925-00232859-00233092 to be above the pack below the pack like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00926-00233094-00233356 like zero clue right no interest in it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00927-00233357-00233501 either right maybe I just want to hold +wmFaMS3KAB0-00928-00233502-00233855 this thing so then that team that seems +wmFaMS3KAB0-00929-00233856-00234010 to I mean because if you actually look +wmFaMS3KAB0-00930-00234011-00234305 at the price chart since rise existed it +wmFaMS3KAB0-00931-00234306-00234460 looks pretty good right it looks pretty +wmFaMS3KAB0-00932-00234461-00234641 stable right it's basically been like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00933-00234642-00234934 okay 3.1 2.9 doesn't matter right like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00934-00234935-00235163 that's close enough like over an +wmFaMS3KAB0-00935-00235164-00235379 extended time but of course if you then +wmFaMS3KAB0-00936-00235380-00235565 say like oh maybe it goes to a dollar or +wmFaMS3KAB0-00937-00235566-00235841 like you know then that that's like a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00938-00235842-00236087 very different matters so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00939-00236088-00236267 I'm like wondering a little bit about +wmFaMS3KAB0-00940-00236267-00236656 that of like how well it like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00941-00236657-00236855 serves because in the end people still +wmFaMS3KAB0-00942-00236856-00237058 want that kind of predictability with a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00943-00237059-00237292 stable coin right they want to know that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00944-00237294-00237556 it's gonna be worth even maybe it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00945-00237557-00237731 relative to the dollar Let's ignore the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00946-00237732-00237965 hyperinflation scenario but they want to +wmFaMS3KAB0-00947-00237966-00238127 know that kind of okay a year from now +wmFaMS3KAB0-00948-00238128-00238396 it's worth a similar amount +wmFaMS3KAB0-00949-00238398-00238691 I think that's like the fundamental goal +wmFaMS3KAB0-00950-00238692-00239015 of like all currencies ever right is +wmFaMS3KAB0-00951-00239016-00239219 that like you want them to be stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-00952-00239219-00239465 relative to like your purchasing power +wmFaMS3KAB0-00953-00239466-00239723 or like the stuff that you buy regularly +wmFaMS3KAB0-00954-00239723-00239903 you know your toilet paper and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00955-00239904-00240034 cheeseburger is that's like why we set +wmFaMS3KAB0-00956-00240035-00240263 up this Consumer Price Index to try and +wmFaMS3KAB0-00957-00240264-00240394 track it and like that's what our +wmFaMS3KAB0-00958-00240396-00240623 inflation metric comes from +wmFaMS3KAB0-00959-00240623-00240732 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-00960-00240733-00241030 like the the short answer is that like +wmFaMS3KAB0-00961-00241031-00241265 if you only want to check on rye every +wmFaMS3KAB0-00962-00241266-00241546 five years it's probably not set up +wmFaMS3KAB0-00963-00241548-00241769 right for that for you right now +wmFaMS3KAB0-00964-00241769-00242105 um it more it because of the response +wmFaMS3KAB0-00965-00242106-00242380 time of the controller being on the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00966-00242381-00242669 order of like a few months uh you kind +wmFaMS3KAB0-00967-00242669-00242830 of have to pay attention to it with a +wmFaMS3KAB0-00968-00242831-00243053 little bit more frequency than that +wmFaMS3KAB0-00969-00243054-00243305 um there are other controller setups +wmFaMS3KAB0-00970-00243306-00243496 that you could do that change the rate +wmFaMS3KAB0-00971-00243498-00243773 much more slowly that could be more +wmFaMS3KAB0-00972-00243773-00243934 friendly for people to only check in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00973-00243935-00244060 every couple years +wmFaMS3KAB0-00974-00244061-00244306 uh for example +wmFaMS3KAB0-00975-00244307-00244523 um the cool thing about Rye is that in +wmFaMS3KAB0-00976-00244523-00244744 the meantime it tells you exactly what +wmFaMS3KAB0-00977-00244746-00245063 it's going to do so like on it's not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00978-00245064-00245267 like the FED it doesn't Bluff you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00979-00245267-00245513 when the Rye has a certain rate it does +wmFaMS3KAB0-00980-00245514-00245908 what it says right so if you can pay +wmFaMS3KAB0-00981-00245909-00246077 attention to it you know it's it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00982-00246078-00246341 fairly easy to follow the instructions +wmFaMS3KAB0-00983-00246342-00246580 and do what it tells you to in the sense +wmFaMS3KAB0-00984-00246581-00246779 that when the rates are positive it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-00985-00246780-00247006 saying hello if you hold Rye you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-00986-00247007-00247229 you'll probably make some money and help +wmFaMS3KAB0-00987-00247230-00247384 like hello if the rates are negative +wmFaMS3KAB0-00988-00247385-00247667 like if you sell rye and wait and then +wmFaMS3KAB0-00989-00247667-00247846 buy it back later like you also might +wmFaMS3KAB0-00990-00247848-00248032 make some money you know the protocol +wmFaMS3KAB0-00991-00248033-00248225 makes very clear to add it's not +wmFaMS3KAB0-00992-00248226-00248392 Financial advice to tag to all of the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00993-00248394-00248698 protocol statements but uh you get the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00994-00248700-00248867 idea +wmFaMS3KAB0-00995-00248867-00249119 so so I mean maybe let's talk about the +wmFaMS3KAB0-00996-00249119-00249329 things that are still governed right so +wmFaMS3KAB0-00997-00249330-00249527 basically there's the flx token that you +wmFaMS3KAB0-00998-00249528-00249730 touched upon briefly earlier +wmFaMS3KAB0-00999-00249731-00249946 um and you just said that you made it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01000-00249948-00250073 firmly +wmFaMS3KAB0-01001-00250073-00250265 um single collateral so basically no +wmFaMS3KAB0-01002-00250266-00250463 other forms of collateral can ever be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01003-00250464-00250721 introduced for this form of Rye so what +wmFaMS3KAB0-01004-00250721-00251146 does f at X currently actually govern +wmFaMS3KAB0-01005-00251148-00251410 yeah flx governs a couple things it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01006-00251411-00251591 governs the controller parameters the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01007-00251592-00251765 oracles +wmFaMS3KAB0-01008-00251766-00252119 um and like a couple other sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01009-00252119-00252371 there's just infrastructure pieces like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01010-00252371-00252665 the gas Oracle for the Pinger Bots you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01011-00252666-00252832 know to to make sure that the price +wmFaMS3KAB0-01012-00252833-00253042 feeds are updated +wmFaMS3KAB0-01013-00253044-00253355 um we like to we have this meme called +wmFaMS3KAB0-01014-00253356-00253619 ungovernance right and the idea is that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01015-00253619-00253841 we just want to progressively remove +wmFaMS3KAB0-01016-00253842-00254098 governance over aspects of the protocol +wmFaMS3KAB0-01017-00254100-00254332 uh we want to do this to make it harder +wmFaMS3KAB0-01018-00254333-00254525 for people to mess with it including +wmFaMS3KAB0-01019-00254526-00254680 ourselves +wmFaMS3KAB0-01020-00254681-00254915 um we also just want to have fewer +wmFaMS3KAB0-01021-00254916-00255263 meetings fewer moving Parts uh fewer +wmFaMS3KAB0-01022-00255264-00255425 opportunities for you know human +wmFaMS3KAB0-01023-00255426-00255821 corruption so we want to take uh we want +wmFaMS3KAB0-01024-00255821-00255989 to automate the controller as much as +wmFaMS3KAB0-01025-00255990-00256079 possible +wmFaMS3KAB0-01026-00256080-00256246 so far +wmFaMS3KAB0-01027-00256248-00256529 you know we don't update the rates +wmFaMS3KAB0-01028-00256530-00256810 directly we only update the parameters +wmFaMS3KAB0-01029-00256811-00257069 that automatically update the rates and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01030-00257069-00257273 so we're able to have the controller +wmFaMS3KAB0-01031-00257273-00257530 discussions you know more more slowly +wmFaMS3KAB0-01032-00257531-00257698 like we've run this thing in production +wmFaMS3KAB0-01033-00257700-00257963 for a year and a half uh we ran it in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01034-00257964-00258215 the P only formed for a year then we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01035-00258216-00258496 added the integral controller uh about +wmFaMS3KAB0-01036-00258498-00258719 six months ago we just you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01037-00258719-00258892 published our results of that experiment +wmFaMS3KAB0-01038-00258894-00259025 we're trying to figure out what to do +wmFaMS3KAB0-01039-00259026-00259313 next so we're still in the process of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01040-00259314-00259510 figuring out how to design the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01041-00259511-00259780 controller so that we can not mess with +wmFaMS3KAB0-01042-00259781-00260008 it for a really long time and we're +wmFaMS3KAB0-01043-00260009-00260375 learning what what that means to us uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01044-00260376-00260542 because the ultimate goal is to remove +wmFaMS3KAB0-01045-00260544-00260692 control +wmFaMS3KAB0-01046-00260694-00260951 um read the price oracles the system +wmFaMS3KAB0-01047-00260952-00261223 depends on chain link which is not quite +wmFaMS3KAB0-01048-00261223-00261539 decentralized uh and we are adding +wmFaMS3KAB0-01049-00261540-00261923 backup oracles that rely on on-chain +wmFaMS3KAB0-01050-00261923-00262193 t-wops that we could quick switch to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01051-00262194-00262397 easily through the governance so we have +wmFaMS3KAB0-01052-00262398-00262684 the sort of like Oracle white list uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01053-00262685-00262841 and then you could switch between the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01054-00262842-00263032 oracles quickly but adding something to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01055-00263033-00263243 the white list takes a long time yeah +wmFaMS3KAB0-01056-00263244-00263405 but the the goal of all of our meetings +wmFaMS3KAB0-01057-00263406-00263645 is to have fewer meetings so we discuss +wmFaMS3KAB0-01058-00263646-00263747 the things that we want to remove +wmFaMS3KAB0-01059-00263748-00263980 control over and then we progressively +wmFaMS3KAB0-01060-00263981-00264137 remove control +wmFaMS3KAB0-01061-00264138-00264395 and as how much is the flx token like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01062-00264396-00264665 the mkr token so basically the mkr token +wmFaMS3KAB0-01063-00264666-00264995 kind of acts as a lender of Last Resort +wmFaMS3KAB0-01064-00264996-00265265 right so does flx have a similar +wmFaMS3KAB0-01065-00265266-00265421 mechanism +wmFaMS3KAB0-01066-00265422-00265693 yeah flx has that mechanism built into +wmFaMS3KAB0-01067-00265694-00266093 uh if you know Rye becomes under +wmFaMS3KAB0-01068-00266094-00266284 collateralized then +wmFaMS3KAB0-01069-00266285-00266567 uh in the same way that I would uh they +wmFaMS3KAB0-01070-00266568-00266825 both basically become algo Staples uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01071-00266826-00266999 backed by printing their governance +wmFaMS3KAB0-01072-00267000-00267269 token uh until their reserves are met +wmFaMS3KAB0-01073-00267270-00267497 but hopefully neither one goes under +wmFaMS3KAB0-01074-00267498-00267853 collateralized uh you know too much that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01075-00267854-00268121 that's a big problem and there aren't +wmFaMS3KAB0-01076-00268122-00268493 people to step into uh you know help +wmFaMS3KAB0-01077-00268494-00268660 bounce the books +wmFaMS3KAB0-01078-00268661-00269027 so is is there is there also a revenue +wmFaMS3KAB0-01079-00269028-00269339 side to effort it's the same as maker it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01080-00269340-00269555 does a buyback and burn of the tokens +wmFaMS3KAB0-01081-00269556-00269801 with the Surplus once it exceeds a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01082-00269802-00269932 certain threshold in the Surplus +wmFaMS3KAB0-01083-00269933-00270125 treasury of the system +wmFaMS3KAB0-01084-00270126-00270323 uh make sure that it has enough money to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01085-00270324-00270641 pay for Bots uh and and everything the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01086-00270642-00270827 protocol makes money from stability fee +wmFaMS3KAB0-01087-00270828-00271055 and liquidations +wmFaMS3KAB0-01088-00271056-00271379 and how is the stability fee set +wmFaMS3KAB0-01089-00271380-00271613 because in in maker that's uh that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01090-00271614-00271775 some sort of community I think you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01091-00271776-00272087 that does this +wmFaMS3KAB0-01092-00272088-00272279 yeah we just set it to I think two +wmFaMS3KAB0-01093-00272280-00272555 percent uh I think it's it might be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01094-00272556-00272867 locked in Forever +wmFaMS3KAB0-01095-00272868-00273137 uh the goal is to not change it uh we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01096-00273138-00273323 don't actually want to change the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01097-00273324-00273508 stability fee the stability fee is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01098-00273509-00273767 supposed to reflect the risk of the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01099-00273768-00274175 collateral uh maker sort of uses it as a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01100-00274176-00274475 monetary policy tool uh I don't think +wmFaMS3KAB0-01101-00274476-00274703 that makes a lot of sense I think you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01102-00274704-00274889 know the Redemption prices well +wmFaMS3KAB0-01103-00274890-00275032 obviously I think the third Redemption +wmFaMS3KAB0-01104-00275033-00275177 price is better to use for that and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01105-00275178-00275471 having two knobs Is Not Great uh to to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01106-00275472-00275693 do that so you just fix one of the knobs +wmFaMS3KAB0-01107-00275694-00275891 uh the stability fee and then play with +wmFaMS3KAB0-01108-00275892-00276130 the other one yeah but I mean Mecca did +wmFaMS3KAB0-01109-00276131-00276317 the exact Converse right they also only +wmFaMS3KAB0-01110-00276318-00276617 have one one knob because they fixed the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01111-00276618-00276779 Redemption price to one dollar so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01112-00276780-00276958 basically it's kind of like yeah so it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01113-00276959-00277201 maybe we should talk about that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01114-00277202-00277463 to me it's exactly equivalent in terms +wmFaMS3KAB0-01115-00277464-00277660 of basically how much control you have +wmFaMS3KAB0-01116-00277661-00277967 over the system hmm why did roon propose +wmFaMS3KAB0-01117-00277968-00278141 that they don't Peg die to a dollar +wmFaMS3KAB0-01118-00278142-00278410 anymore in the Forum last week +wmFaMS3KAB0-01119-00278411-00278591 interesting question I mean yes that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01120-00278592-00278741 doesn't mean that's a really good +wmFaMS3KAB0-01121-00278742-00278927 question I mean why don't you answer +wmFaMS3KAB0-01122-00278928-00279065 your own well maybe for people who +wmFaMS3KAB0-01123-00279066-00279353 haven't read their posts maybe uh maybe +wmFaMS3KAB0-01124-00279354-00279658 uh can either of you give some context +wmFaMS3KAB0-01125-00279659-00279832 about like you know what was written in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01126-00279833-00280006 the post and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01127-00280007-00280480 yeah sure uh so basically This Tornado +wmFaMS3KAB0-01128-00280481-00281008 cash usdc sanction uh so so when tornado +wmFaMS3KAB0-01129-00281009-00281219 cash was sanctioned usdc also went and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01130-00281220-00281387 froze all the usdc and those contracts +wmFaMS3KAB0-01131-00281388-00281530 that made a little bit of a wake-up call +wmFaMS3KAB0-01132-00281531-00281753 for everybody else who has usdc in their +wmFaMS3KAB0-01133-00281754-00281999 contract uh that could potentially be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01134-00282000-00282263 censored or you know Frozen +wmFaMS3KAB0-01135-00282264-00282515 um and and dye has I think the most it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01136-00282516-00282767 like six billion usdc's or something +wmFaMS3KAB0-01137-00282768-00283169 like that right so uh roon looks at this +wmFaMS3KAB0-01138-00283170-00283379 and is like huh we need some way of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01139-00283380-00283721 reducing our exposure to usdc +wmFaMS3KAB0-01140-00283722-00283943 uh and he looks at the knobs and he +wmFaMS3KAB0-01141-00283944-00284134 concludes that the most effective knob +wmFaMS3KAB0-01142-00284135-00284471 that we have to use is to actually +wmFaMS3KAB0-01143-00284472-00284717 reduce the Redemption price over time +wmFaMS3KAB0-01144-00284718-00284987 slowly now they could of course they +wmFaMS3KAB0-01145-00284988-00285149 don't need to use our sort of Target +wmFaMS3KAB0-01146-00285150-00285341 rate feedback mechanism they could just +wmFaMS3KAB0-01147-00285342-00285599 manually set like a negative half +wmFaMS3KAB0-01148-00285600-00285784 percent rate to start with or one +wmFaMS3KAB0-01149-00285785-00286049 percent rate to start with right and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01150-00286050-00286234 that could apply to you know all the die +wmFaMS3KAB0-01151-00286235-00286445 and then what that makes it is that it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01152-00286446-00286780 a less attractive uh you know for you to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01153-00286781-00287039 Mint potentially against usdc +wmFaMS3KAB0-01154-00287040-00287123 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-01155-00287124-00287458 or uh and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01156-00287459-00287680 um yeah it's one of their tools to to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01157-00287681-00287969 reduce the die demand and to reduce the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01158-00287970-00288575 usdc driven dye demand uh and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01159-00288576-00288749 in the aftermath of this it's been +wmFaMS3KAB0-01160-00288750-00288941 pretty funny because Nikolai has been +wmFaMS3KAB0-01161-00288942-00289204 there uh in the forums and the in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01162-00289205-00289349 Discord and I've been there and it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01163-00289350-00289427 like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01164-00289428-00289775 really funny because Rye which was sort +wmFaMS3KAB0-01165-00289776-00289865 of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01166-00289866-00290249 uh on or you know uh thought to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01167-00290250-00290482 this like stupid thing that no one +wmFaMS3KAB0-01168-00290483-00290687 should care about is like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01169-00290688-00290934 the whole research plan for their future +wmFaMS3KAB0-01170-00290935-00291280 right uh like had we not done right like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01171-00291281-00291425 everyone would be sitting there +wmFaMS3KAB0-01172-00291426-00291671 twiddling their thumbs uh thinking oh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01173-00291672-00291899 negative rates like what do we do uh no +wmFaMS3KAB0-01174-00291900-00292091 one's done it before it sounds scary I +wmFaMS3KAB0-01175-00292092-00292330 don't know right but because we've done +wmFaMS3KAB0-01176-00292331-00292493 negative rates even in you know the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01177-00292494-00292787 simplified uh Pi model uh that we we did +wmFaMS3KAB0-01178-00292788-00292895 it it's like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01179-00292896-00293134 at least there's an example uh that you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01180-00293135-00293429 can point to and you know look and and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01181-00293430-00293710 and see something that for the most part +wmFaMS3KAB0-01182-00293711-00294041 Works to stabilize uh and use that as a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01183-00294042-00294191 direction and this sort of reflects the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01184-00294192-00294347 like three phases everyone goes through +wmFaMS3KAB0-01185-00294348-00294587 when they when they encounter Rye they +wmFaMS3KAB0-01186-00294588-00294767 start out and they're like man right +wmFaMS3KAB0-01187-00294768-00295054 this thing is weird uh I don't know how +wmFaMS3KAB0-01188-00295055-00295247 it works I don't want it I like the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01189-00295248-00295384 dollars and then they learn a little bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-01190-00295385-00295630 more and they're like oh I get it uh it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01191-00295631-00295829 stabilizes itself using the tag like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01192-00295830-00296003 that that kind of makes sense but it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01193-00296004-00296225 also like kind of small and weird and I +wmFaMS3KAB0-01194-00296226-00296399 don't know if I I want it and then they +wmFaMS3KAB0-01195-00296400-00296567 learn a little bit more and they're like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01196-00296568-00296819 I finally understand why the system is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01197-00296820-00296999 designed like this and I don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-01198-00297000-00297197 understand why everything isn't designed +wmFaMS3KAB0-01199-00297198-00297347 like this +wmFaMS3KAB0-01200-00297348-00297671 uh and that reality seems to be coming +wmFaMS3KAB0-01201-00297672-00297989 true with die uh die you know they bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-01202-00297990-00298325 The Poisoned Apple of usdc and now 80 of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01203-00298326-00298487 it is usdc-backed and they have to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01204-00298488-00298775 decide what to what to do about it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01205-00298776-00299027 um it's almost a civil war because all +wmFaMS3KAB0-01206-00299028-00299201 the people who have jobs that depend on +wmFaMS3KAB0-01207-00299202-00299477 the usdc and the rwa stuff like are +wmFaMS3KAB0-01208-00299478-00299915 gonna try to keep the system that way uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01209-00299916-00300191 and so I don't know how this is gonna +wmFaMS3KAB0-01210-00300192-00300551 unfold but it's uh I'm I'm definitely on +wmFaMS3KAB0-01211-00300552-00300851 team decentralist which is about uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01212-00300852-00301027 trying to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01213-00301028-00301354 reclaim monetary sovereignty for diet uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01214-00301355-00301637 have die be what did you know maker +wmFaMS3KAB0-01215-00301638-00301834 holders and die people want it to be and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01216-00301835-00302075 not have it always necessarily be a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01217-00302076-00302171 dollar if +wmFaMS3KAB0-01218-00302172-00302530 uh being a dollar adds too much risk +wmFaMS3KAB0-01219-00302531-00302789 yeah I agree do you think people should +wmFaMS3KAB0-01220-00302790-00303082 have been alarmed earlier by the fact +wmFaMS3KAB0-01221-00303083-00303406 that so much of dye is actually backed +wmFaMS3KAB0-01222-00303407-00303701 by usdc uh do you think we should never +wmFaMS3KAB0-01223-00303702-00303875 have gotten to this point where it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01224-00303876-00304175 like 80 percent +wmFaMS3KAB0-01225-00304176-00304403 that's hard to say I think maker made +wmFaMS3KAB0-01226-00304404-00304606 the pragmatic decisions based on the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01227-00304607-00304834 information they had at the time I think +wmFaMS3KAB0-01228-00304835-00305021 it would have been very hard for them to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01229-00305022-00305399 decide to not use the usdc and die for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01230-00305400-00305734 the last couple years I think that uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01231-00305735-00305969 given the fact that we've gone and done +wmFaMS3KAB0-01232-00305970-00306239 this research uh you know and and sort +wmFaMS3KAB0-01233-00306240-00306449 of proved that you can have negative +wmFaMS3KAB0-01234-00306450-00306653 rates without destroying your whole +wmFaMS3KAB0-01235-00306654-00306923 system uh you know rented and prod for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01236-00306924-00307132 almost two years I think they're in a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01237-00307133-00307282 much better place to try and make this +wmFaMS3KAB0-01238-00307283-00307445 decision now +wmFaMS3KAB0-01239-00307446-00307697 and and to be clear this the thing is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01240-00307698-00307865 going to unroll over like several years +wmFaMS3KAB0-01241-00307866-00308080 roon is sort of only talking about it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01242-00308081-00308423 now to get people prepared for it uh and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01243-00308424-00308651 we are excited about this because it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01244-00308652-00308825 means more people will learn about Rye +wmFaMS3KAB0-01245-00308826-00309113 learn about the trfm learn about unpeg +wmFaMS3KAB0-01246-00309114-00309413 you know stable coins or controlled pegs +wmFaMS3KAB0-01247-00309414-00309617 stable coins uh and we can sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01248-00309618-00309941 migrate intellectually away from the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01249-00309942-00310223 barren Wasteland of uh dollar stablecoin +wmFaMS3KAB0-01250-00310224-00310487 dominance forever +wmFaMS3KAB0-01251-00310488-00310775 maybe if we zoom out a little bit +wmFaMS3KAB0-01252-00310776-00311110 um so if you look at the demand +wmFaMS3KAB0-01253-00311111-00311291 um for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01254-00311292-00311591 um for die or for dollar denominated +wmFaMS3KAB0-01255-00311592-00311897 disabled coins in general so when people +wmFaMS3KAB0-01256-00311898-00312137 are crypto long there's always Iman +wmFaMS3KAB0-01257-00312138-00312280 right so basically but this kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01258-00312281-00312569 flips when people are crypto short right +wmFaMS3KAB0-01259-00312570-00312863 so they don't want to use crypto +wmFaMS3KAB0-01260-00312864-00313169 um for collateral so basically in in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01261-00313170-00313421 times like these where people generally +wmFaMS3KAB0-01262-00313422-00313679 tend to be crypto short +wmFaMS3KAB0-01263-00313680-00313756 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-01264-00313757-00314080 do do you think it's a it's a bigger uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01265-00314081-00314404 bigger problem to kind of to find people +wmFaMS3KAB0-01266-00314405-00315017 to Mint die or to hold die +wmFaMS3KAB0-01267-00315018-00315263 um I don't know I mean when when crypto +wmFaMS3KAB0-01268-00315264-00315539 goes down most of the stable coins that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01269-00315540-00315808 use debt leverage to back them will go +wmFaMS3KAB0-01270-00315809-00315965 down as well +wmFaMS3KAB0-01271-00315966-00316265 um it seems prudent to be able to impose +wmFaMS3KAB0-01272-00316266-00316523 negative rates uh because more people +wmFaMS3KAB0-01273-00316524-00316630 are going to want to hold the stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-01274-00316631-00316817 coins than people are going to want to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01275-00316818-00317069 take on debt you have a very basic +wmFaMS3KAB0-01276-00317070-00317308 supply and demand equation there and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01277-00317309-00317513 you have to balance it by having some +wmFaMS3KAB0-01278-00317514-00317669 sort of subsidy and incentive for the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01279-00317670-00317884 people who are minting and some sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01280-00317885-00318101 costs on the people who are holding +wmFaMS3KAB0-01281-00318102-00318569 and so negative rates are the way you do +wmFaMS3KAB0-01282-00318570-00318695 that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01283-00318696-00319030 um so yeah I think it makes sense +wmFaMS3KAB0-01284-00319031-00319343 I don't know what the like to zoom out +wmFaMS3KAB0-01285-00319344-00319595 again right like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01286-00319596-00319841 I don't think the end game forever is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01287-00319842-00320158 dollar denominated assets uh I think +wmFaMS3KAB0-01288-00320159-00320495 that in time crypto will probably make +wmFaMS3KAB0-01289-00320496-00320782 its own price indexes uh in time crypto +wmFaMS3KAB0-01290-00320783-00320993 will probably you know use some other +wmFaMS3KAB0-01291-00320994-00321280 standards besides uh you know basket of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01292-00321281-00321479 Fiat currencies or something +wmFaMS3KAB0-01293-00321480-00321869 um for now we use the USD reference for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01294-00321870-00322247 Rye because it's easy it's liquid you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01295-00322248-00322367 know it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01296-00322368-00322553 um relatively it's you know still today +wmFaMS3KAB0-01297-00322554-00322804 the most stable thing uh that we can use +wmFaMS3KAB0-01298-00322805-00323129 as a reference there are some plans uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01299-00323130-00323284 not anything in motion right now but +wmFaMS3KAB0-01300-00323285-00323519 things that we could potentially use to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01301-00323520-00323747 move off of the dollar if we wanted in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01302-00323748-00323891 you know over the course of 10 years or +wmFaMS3KAB0-01303-00323892-00324179 something if we wanted to switch to you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01304-00324180-00324415 know some other reference asset +wmFaMS3KAB0-01305-00324416-00324653 what kind of reference as it would that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01306-00324654-00324904 be I mean I mean basically some sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01307-00324905-00325108 basket but how would that be constructed +wmFaMS3KAB0-01308-00325109-00325258 and don't you need governance for that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01309-00325259-00325367 again +wmFaMS3KAB0-01310-00325368-00325756 uh yes and that's why we haven't done it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01311-00325757-00326069 um the like I don't really like that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01312-00326070-00326453 that problem because it's messy and it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01313-00326454-00326615 deals with a lot of factors that are +wmFaMS3KAB0-01314-00326616-00326921 constantly in flux like you know I when +wmFaMS3KAB0-01315-00326922-00327047 I said earlier stability is in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01316-00327048-00327203 either holder Brian you were like I want +wmFaMS3KAB0-01317-00327204-00327382 to hold something for five years and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01318-00327383-00327610 then come back and it's like fine well +wmFaMS3KAB0-01319-00327611-00327784 you want it to be fine relative to the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01320-00327785-00327917 stuff that you want to buy in five years +wmFaMS3KAB0-01321-00327918-00328151 uh so if you could give me an itemized +wmFaMS3KAB0-01322-00328152-00328360 list right now of everything that you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01323-00328361-00328639 want to buy in five years you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01324-00328640-00328877 like that's that's the kind of thing +wmFaMS3KAB0-01325-00328878-00329056 where it's like yeah things change you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01326-00329057-00329303 know uh we don't know exactly what the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01327-00329304-00329441 future will look like we don't know what +wmFaMS3KAB0-01328-00329442-00329710 consumption will look like uh and so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01329-00329711-00329843 there's sort of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01330-00329844-00330095 you know the the idea of this reference +wmFaMS3KAB0-01331-00330096-00330382 basket index thing cons you know CPI +wmFaMS3KAB0-01332-00330383-00330539 whatever will sort of always have to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01333-00330540-00330784 a govern process +wmFaMS3KAB0-01334-00330785-00331019 but yeah I mean I think on a high level +wmFaMS3KAB0-01335-00331020-00331128 right +wmFaMS3KAB0-01336-00331129-00331499 I think with the tornado cash +wmFaMS3KAB0-01337-00331500-00331775 you know this tornado cash sanctions you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01338-00331776-00332039 know I guess you can sort of interpret +wmFaMS3KAB0-01339-00332040-00332219 this in different ways you know maybe to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01340-00332220-00332393 some extent it's about like I don't know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01341-00332394-00332615 North Korea and preventing they get some +wmFaMS3KAB0-01342-00332616-00332897 money and stuff like that but I think on +wmFaMS3KAB0-01343-00332898-00333034 another level +wmFaMS3KAB0-01344-00333035-00333382 it's also just the government +wmFaMS3KAB0-01345-00333383-00333593 really not liking this crypto thing +wmFaMS3KAB0-01346-00333594-00333863 right and really not liking losing +wmFaMS3KAB0-01347-00333864-00334175 control right and basically saying like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01348-00334176-00334403 Okay we're gonna try to like crack down +wmFaMS3KAB0-01349-00334404-00334504 on this +wmFaMS3KAB0-01350-00334505-00334775 and I think if you see something like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01351-00334776-00334930 maker +wmFaMS3KAB0-01352-00334931-00335395 and I mean uscc is like such an obvious +wmFaMS3KAB0-01353-00335396-00335753 uh Avenue right so I think if that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01354-00335754-00335956 becomes something that's like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01355-00335957-00336184 I mean in the end right like if you're +wmFaMS3KAB0-01356-00336185-00336377 gonna have some stable coin that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01357-00336378-00336658 supposed to be you know widely used by +wmFaMS3KAB0-01358-00336659-00336875 people and that's supposed to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01359-00336876-00337234 actually like neutral and you know you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01360-00337235-00337403 can use it anonymously you don't have to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01361-00337404-00337721 do kyc you can use it across the world +wmFaMS3KAB0-01362-00337722-00337949 it just doesn't want it that you just +wmFaMS3KAB0-01363-00337950-00338254 cannot have uscc in there this is not +wmFaMS3KAB0-01364-00338255-00338477 gonna fly right like it has to be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01365-00338478-00338710 actually decentralized +wmFaMS3KAB0-01366-00338711-00339106 yeah I believe that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01367-00339107-00339269 um I want to see more decentralized +wmFaMS3KAB0-01368-00339270-00339503 stable coins uh more things that move +wmFaMS3KAB0-01369-00339504-00339869 away from usdc dominance +wmFaMS3KAB0-01370-00339870-00340054 usdc is clutter I mean that's why +wmFaMS3KAB0-01371-00340055-00340354 actually you know people uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01372-00340355-00340558 um criticizing Tara a lot and of course +wmFaMS3KAB0-01373-00340559-00340756 that turned out to be correct in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01374-00340757-00340889 retrospective +wmFaMS3KAB0-01375-00340890-00341201 but I always found that the the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01376-00341202-00341375 criticism of oh it's not that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01377-00341376-00341573 decentralized you know compared to make +wmFaMS3KAB0-01378-00341574-00341806 remain like no sense at all yeah there's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01379-00341807-00341987 points of centralization wherever you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01380-00341988-00342101 look +wmFaMS3KAB0-01381-00342102-00342365 um you know the maker has oracles that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01382-00342366-00342515 are kind of centralized maker has the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01383-00342516-00342832 usdc collateral right Tara had +wmFaMS3KAB0-01384-00342833-00343145 uh I mean the lfg fund was a multi-sig +wmFaMS3KAB0-01385-00343146-00343373 That was supposed to be backing it they +wmFaMS3KAB0-01386-00343374-00343528 didn't have any sort of like on-chain +wmFaMS3KAB0-01387-00343529-00343775 algorithmic backing they just decided +wmFaMS3KAB0-01388-00343776-00344080 when to back it and so there's all sorts +wmFaMS3KAB0-01389-00344081-00344375 of like information asymmetries like hey +wmFaMS3KAB0-01390-00344376-00344525 if you're close to them and you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01391-00344526-00344669 that they're out of money you should +wmFaMS3KAB0-01392-00344670-00344843 short the out of UST immediately +wmFaMS3KAB0-01393-00344844-00345191 right like uh that's the kind of thing +wmFaMS3KAB0-01394-00345192-00345430 that you know we try to avoid and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01395-00345431-00345599 decentralize systems +wmFaMS3KAB0-01396-00345600-00345797 um so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01397-00345798-00345917 yeah I think I think the better +wmFaMS3KAB0-01398-00345918-00346139 criticism of Tara was the one where +wmFaMS3KAB0-01399-00346140-00346319 vitalik blogged about it and also +wmFaMS3KAB0-01400-00346320-00346534 mentioned rye as an example because he +wmFaMS3KAB0-01401-00346535-00346745 talked about how if your stable coin +wmFaMS3KAB0-01402-00346746-00347039 can't unwind in a like down market like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01403-00347040-00347177 you were saying you know if youth +wmFaMS3KAB0-01404-00347178-00347380 crashes everything's going down like if +wmFaMS3KAB0-01405-00347381-00347639 your stable coin like can't unwind it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01406-00347640-00347825 basically a Ponzi scheme right you're +wmFaMS3KAB0-01407-00347826-00347956 gonna have some people sitting there at +wmFaMS3KAB0-01408-00347957-00348143 the end of it like hello I would like my +wmFaMS3KAB0-01409-00348144-00348389 money I would you know I want to exit uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01410-00348390-00348641 and if they can't exit then you you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01411-00348642-00348797 didn't design your system to be very +wmFaMS3KAB0-01412-00348798-00349006 friendly to those people to exit which +wmFaMS3KAB0-01413-00349007-00349223 you know systems that typically leave +wmFaMS3KAB0-01414-00349224-00349463 some people hanging or called ponzis +wmFaMS3KAB0-01415-00349464-00349828 do you think there is a future for you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01416-00349829-00350008 know algorithmic stable coins that are +wmFaMS3KAB0-01417-00350009-00350315 not backed or is this uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01418-00350316-00350525 do you think it you're playing with fire +wmFaMS3KAB0-01419-00350526-00350782 right like you you can get shorted to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01420-00350783-00351082 zero you know even if you're 80 backed +wmFaMS3KAB0-01421-00351083-00351334 or 90 backed right the the window of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01422-00351335-00351599 opportunity is smaller but uh the risk +wmFaMS3KAB0-01423-00351600-00351803 is always present right even things like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01424-00351804-00352006 maker and Rye could in theory become +wmFaMS3KAB0-01425-00352007-00352199 algo Staples if some Black Swan event +wmFaMS3KAB0-01426-00352200-00352408 hits and they become you know under +wmFaMS3KAB0-01427-00352409-00352715 capitalized uh you know under +wmFaMS3KAB0-01428-00352716-00352906 collateralized then there's less money +wmFaMS3KAB0-01429-00352907-00353206 backing them than they're having debt uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01430-00353207-00353363 so they need to recruit people who +wmFaMS3KAB0-01431-00353364-00353515 believe in them and if there aren't any +wmFaMS3KAB0-01432-00353516-00353849 then you know some people are gonna get +wmFaMS3KAB0-01433-00353850-00354130 a haircut that's how the systems were +wmFaMS3KAB0-01434-00354131-00354353 designed so to try to make the haircut +wmFaMS3KAB0-01435-00354354-00354604 process you know transparent Fair equal +wmFaMS3KAB0-01436-00354605-00354893 right uh it's not like you lose +wmFaMS3KAB0-01437-00354894-00355132 everything uh it's like you might lose +wmFaMS3KAB0-01438-00355133-00355487 whatever uh you know went wrong whatever +wmFaMS3KAB0-01439-00355488-00355660 degree of under collateralization you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01440-00355661-00355877 are is sort of shared by everybody if +wmFaMS3KAB0-01441-00355878-00356032 it's five percent for example ten +wmFaMS3KAB0-01442-00356033-00356104 percent +wmFaMS3KAB0-01443-00356105-00356315 but that's a huge difference right I +wmFaMS3KAB0-01444-00356316-00356465 mean basically having like an orderly +wmFaMS3KAB0-01445-00356466-00356717 shutdown even if it means everyone gets +wmFaMS3KAB0-01446-00356718-00356903 like a 10 haircut +wmFaMS3KAB0-01447-00356904-00357154 um that's completely different to the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01448-00357155-00357341 the situation where the first first +wmFaMS3KAB0-01449-00357342-00357563 person to cash out gets their entire +wmFaMS3KAB0-01450-00357564-00357832 money back and you know the the the the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01451-00357833-00358163 20th person doesn't so I mean this is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01452-00358164-00358445 yeah so I think this kind of Yeah so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01453-00358446-00358684 basically I'm totally with the ordered +wmFaMS3KAB0-01454-00358685-00359104 shutdown process we really uh we fought +wmFaMS3KAB0-01455-00359105-00359351 a losing battle uh those of us who care +wmFaMS3KAB0-01456-00359352-00359608 to try and not throw the algo stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-01457-00359609-00359897 term out with the bathwater uh you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01458-00359898-00360160 the because people are like I'll go +wmFaMS3KAB0-01459-00360161-00360430 stable's a bad word now right and it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01460-00360431-00360689 like I used to call Rye a kind of algo +wmFaMS3KAB0-01461-00360690-00360928 stable it's I'll you know has an +wmFaMS3KAB0-01462-00360929-00361180 algorithm that stabilizes it uh but now +wmFaMS3KAB0-01463-00361181-00361487 I can't uh now we have to you know make +wmFaMS3KAB0-01464-00361488-00361756 sure that like all we can do is try to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01465-00361757-00361913 explain that the bad thing wasn't +wmFaMS3KAB0-01466-00361914-00362106 actually the algo it was the under +wmFaMS3KAB0-01467-00362107-00362513 collateralized part like Luna didn't +wmFaMS3KAB0-01468-00362514-00362849 hold the Luna like that you used to Mint +wmFaMS3KAB0-01469-00362850-00363071 UST in a reserve somewhere it wasn't a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01470-00363072-00363389 CDP they lit it on fire you know they +wmFaMS3KAB0-01471-00363390-00363641 so there was no reserves the the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01472-00363642-00363815 reserves was backed by the you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01473-00363816-00364054 future printing against the Luna token +wmFaMS3KAB0-01474-00364055-00364289 and selling it uh and so as soon as the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01475-00364290-00364499 Luna demand went to zero the UST demand +wmFaMS3KAB0-01476-00364500-00364630 went to zero and the whole thing went to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01477-00364631-00364841 zero so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01478-00364842-00365249 that's not great uh having collateral in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01479-00365250-00365458 your system is very helpful for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01480-00365459-00365603 protecting against systems like that we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01481-00365604-00365765 want the regulators and the public to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01482-00365766-00365975 know the difference and so far that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01483-00365976-00366130 you know meant retreating off of the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01484-00366131-00366287 algo stable Hill and onto the over +wmFaMS3KAB0-01485-00366288-00366443 collateralized Hill +wmFaMS3KAB0-01486-00366444-00366653 so hopefully you guys can help with that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01487-00366654-00366887 narrative +wmFaMS3KAB0-01488-00366888-00367282 yeah no I mean I I think obviously Tara +wmFaMS3KAB0-01489-00367283-00367523 went horribly wrong in USD went horribly +wmFaMS3KAB0-01490-00367524-00367721 wrong and it was like tragic how you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01491-00367722-00367973 know lots of people lost lots of money +wmFaMS3KAB0-01492-00367974-00368363 uh it's just that if you look at the I +wmFaMS3KAB0-01493-00368364-00368584 mean maker right +wmFaMS3KAB0-01494-00368585-00368903 well make her struggle to scale more I +wmFaMS3KAB0-01495-00368904-00369175 struggled more with scaling than UST +wmFaMS3KAB0-01496-00369176-00369478 and the only way they actually got to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01497-00369479-00369658 scaling is by adding this like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01498-00369659-00370097 centralized you know basically USD coin +wmFaMS3KAB0-01499-00370098-00370445 to it right so is in you know I mean you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01500-00370446-00370595 said yourself right like probably they +wmFaMS3KAB0-01501-00370596-00370834 made they had no choice but to make that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01502-00370835-00370943 decision you know it would have been +wmFaMS3KAB0-01503-00370944-00371243 hard to make you know to just have eth +wmFaMS3KAB0-01504-00371244-00371417 and you know with Rye you know we're +wmFaMS3KAB0-01505-00371418-00371537 seeing okay +wmFaMS3KAB0-01506-00371538-00371825 it's very small right so like we really +wmFaMS3KAB0-01507-00371826-00372095 haven't seen anything get to any kind of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01508-00372096-00372232 scale right that's actually +wmFaMS3KAB0-01509-00372233-00372437 collateralized +wmFaMS3KAB0-01510-00372438-00372730 uh you know with +wmFaMS3KAB0-01511-00372731-00373030 actual crypto assets +wmFaMS3KAB0-01512-00373031-00373258 so I think that whole scaling issue is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01513-00373259-00373606 like it feels like a big big challenge +wmFaMS3KAB0-01514-00373607-00373852 to Me Maybe I mean maybe this would be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01515-00373853-00374069 super interesting to get your take on to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01516-00374070-00374375 me in large part this feels like mainly +wmFaMS3KAB0-01517-00374376-00374632 an oracle issue because basically if you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01518-00374633-00374878 had good price feeds for all kinds of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01519-00374879-00375167 assets you could use them as cholesterol +wmFaMS3KAB0-01520-00375168-00375317 um and I mean this is this is the reason +wmFaMS3KAB0-01521-00375318-00375545 why we don't see more real world assets +wmFaMS3KAB0-01522-00375546-00375791 as collateral because there's no good +wmFaMS3KAB0-01523-00375792-00376054 price feeds for them so basically if +wmFaMS3KAB0-01524-00376055-00376378 somehow be magically you know I could +wmFaMS3KAB0-01525-00376379-00376715 you know wave my wand and kind of have a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01526-00376716-00376799 good +wmFaMS3KAB0-01527-00376800-00377027 price feed for all kinds of things I +wmFaMS3KAB0-01528-00377028-00377254 feel like most of these problems would +wmFaMS3KAB0-01529-00377255-00377380 go away +wmFaMS3KAB0-01530-00377381-00377693 uh I'll answer both questions so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01531-00377694-00378006 um on the one hand Brian you're correct +wmFaMS3KAB0-01532-00378007-00378352 uh no well-designed decentralized +wmFaMS3KAB0-01533-00378353-00378604 stablecoin has scaled today +wmFaMS3KAB0-01534-00378605-00378773 right we could say rise while design +wmFaMS3KAB0-01535-00378774-00378952 hasn't scaled you could say maker is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01536-00378953-00379132 well designed until it's scaled using +wmFaMS3KAB0-01537-00379133-00379480 usdc you could say you know usdc scale +wmFaMS3KAB0-01538-00379481-00379949 or usdt scale or UST scale Terra but it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01539-00379950-00380110 wasn't poorly it was poorly designed and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01540-00380111-00380297 then you know 50 billion dollars in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01541-00380298-00380615 Flames so uh I think the answer is it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01542-00380616-00380830 still a work in progress uh and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01543-00380831-00381154 Frederick to your question of uh what if +wmFaMS3KAB0-01544-00381155-00381304 we had lots of price feeds you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01545-00381305-00381628 maker was designed to you know include +wmFaMS3KAB0-01546-00381629-00381851 real world assets +wmFaMS3KAB0-01547-00381852-00381977 um part of the challenge there is also +wmFaMS3KAB0-01548-00381978-00382187 liquidation right if I say I have a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01549-00382188-00382445 house and the housing market crashes +wmFaMS3KAB0-01550-00382446-00382697 I use my house as collateral for a loan +wmFaMS3KAB0-01551-00382698-00382925 somehow you have to carry out some sort +wmFaMS3KAB0-01552-00382926-00383243 of on-chain liquidation process auction +wmFaMS3KAB0-01553-00383244-00383489 somehow you have to get the dye you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01554-00383490-00383830 back into the system so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01555-00383831-00384077 there's there's complications there and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01556-00384078-00384310 the hard part's always the paperwork uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01557-00384311-00384491 with with any of these like real world +wmFaMS3KAB0-01558-00384492-00384628 interfaces +wmFaMS3KAB0-01559-00384629-00384882 so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01560-00384883-00385151 my solution is going to sound really +wmFaMS3KAB0-01561-00385152-00385625 silly my solution is youth hit 75 000. +wmFaMS3KAB0-01562-00385626-00385865 uh and then decentralized stable coins +wmFaMS3KAB0-01563-00385866-00386099 can scale +wmFaMS3KAB0-01564-00386100-00386465 uh right it's like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01565-00386466-00386734 maybe maybe like we're still in the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01566-00386735-00386963 experiment running phase uh of the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01567-00386964-00387184 decentralized table coin part uh maybe +wmFaMS3KAB0-01568-00387185-00387323 it's a good thing that they're you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01569-00387324-00387556 700 million dollars +wmFaMS3KAB0-01570-00387557-00387845 uh maybe like if Rye was billions of +wmFaMS3KAB0-01571-00387846-00388037 dollars I would actually be freaking out +wmFaMS3KAB0-01572-00388038-00388193 right now +wmFaMS3KAB0-01573-00388194-00388613 um you know like any any uh weaknesses +wmFaMS3KAB0-01574-00388614-00388871 of the system would be like uh much more +wmFaMS3KAB0-01575-00388872-00389221 apparent and risky so I think it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01576-00389222-00389471 important that we I don't know figure +wmFaMS3KAB0-01577-00389472-00389663 this stuff out but like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01578-00389664-00389878 also realize that it's still pretty +wmFaMS3KAB0-01579-00389879-00390245 early uh and as the collateral base +wmFaMS3KAB0-01580-00390246-00390497 grows uh and we have even stronger +wmFaMS3KAB0-01581-00390498-00390787 native assets than it seems +wmFaMS3KAB0-01582-00390788-00391043 overwhelmingly likely that the stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-01583-00391044-00391523 coins will grow uh proportionally too +wmFaMS3KAB0-01584-00391524-00391793 I mean usually we ask what's what's on +wmFaMS3KAB0-01585-00391794-00392008 the roadmap for the project it looks +wmFaMS3KAB0-01586-00392009-00392267 like that like you know together with +wmFaMS3KAB0-01587-00392268-00392501 your meetings you kind of reduce your +wmFaMS3KAB0-01588-00392502-00392873 roadmap choices so maybe I I'll ask this +wmFaMS3KAB0-01589-00392874-00393101 the other way around do you do you guys +wmFaMS3KAB0-01590-00393102-00393328 plan to uh to offer +wmFaMS3KAB0-01591-00393329-00393532 um an out of the box white label +wmFaMS3KAB0-01592-00393533-00393767 solution for people to make their own +wmFaMS3KAB0-01593-00393768-00394001 versions of Rye with whatever collateral +wmFaMS3KAB0-01594-00394002-00394193 they want because I think this is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01595-00394194-00394534 something that lots of projects might +wmFaMS3KAB0-01596-00394535-00394858 actually use right lots of dowels for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01597-00394859-00394991 instance who have their own governance +wmFaMS3KAB0-01598-00394992-00395206 token and so on +wmFaMS3KAB0-01599-00395207-00395471 it's not a plan to make the like fully +wmFaMS3KAB0-01600-00395472-00395615 white label you know out of the box +wmFaMS3KAB0-01601-00395616-00395806 thing it's actually a little harder than +wmFaMS3KAB0-01602-00395807-00396058 you know it seems and also rallying +wmFaMS3KAB0-01603-00396059-00396401 people around assets uh is like you know +wmFaMS3KAB0-01604-00396402-00396569 it might it might not make sense for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01605-00396570-00396832 like you know everybody to have every +wmFaMS3KAB0-01606-00396833-00396965 project to have their own stable point +wmFaMS3KAB0-01607-00396966-00397156 maybe it does I'm not sure +wmFaMS3KAB0-01608-00397157-00397360 um I think our plan right now is to work +wmFaMS3KAB0-01609-00397361-00397654 with like groups that have the dev +wmFaMS3KAB0-01610-00397655-00397865 capacity to be able to Fork the system +wmFaMS3KAB0-01611-00397866-00398063 and manage it themselves and then we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01612-00398064-00398302 provide support and maybe you know get +wmFaMS3KAB0-01613-00398303-00398549 some tokens out of it or have some sort +wmFaMS3KAB0-01614-00398550-00398806 of you know partnership agreement or +wmFaMS3KAB0-01615-00398807-00398951 something but +wmFaMS3KAB0-01616-00398952-00399028 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-01617-00399029-00399365 yeah uh it's it's a little bit too hard +wmFaMS3KAB0-01618-00399366-00399556 to go like full white label in like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01619-00399557-00399773 three years maybe it won't be +wmFaMS3KAB0-01620-00399774-00399941 um something I've I've always said is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01621-00399942-00400115 that like the cost of deploying a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01622-00400116-00400282 sophisticated smart contract platform +wmFaMS3KAB0-01623-00400283-00400558 you know drops by a factor of 10 every +wmFaMS3KAB0-01624-00400559-00400769 year so what that looked like was like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01625-00400770-00401134 2018 it was like 10 of you know rocket +wmFaMS3KAB0-01626-00401135-00401321 science level solidity devs had to like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01627-00401322-00401495 make maker Dow from scratch over 18 +wmFaMS3KAB0-01628-00401496-00401752 months you know then like a small group +wmFaMS3KAB0-01629-00401753-00401993 of like four people in 2020 could do it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01630-00401994-00402232 right and then like you know in a couple +wmFaMS3KAB0-01631-00402233-00402395 years from now it'll be like one guy +wmFaMS3KAB0-01632-00402396-00402677 just like deploys everything right so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01633-00402678-00402904 that's where we're going +wmFaMS3KAB0-01634-00402905-00403025 um +wmFaMS3KAB0-01635-00403026-00403373 I I think uh the tools that Dows have +wmFaMS3KAB0-01636-00403374-00403595 reported wanting are things to like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01637-00403596-00403828 automatically manage vaults like for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01638-00403829-00403978 example you know if you want to leave +wmFaMS3KAB0-01639-00403979-00404213 something for five years uh and come +wmFaMS3KAB0-01640-00404214-00404399 back like maybe you don't want to hold +wmFaMS3KAB0-01641-00404400-00404632 raw Rye itself you want to hold the like +wmFaMS3KAB0-01642-00404633-00404854 Vault that automatically arbitrages +wmFaMS3KAB0-01643-00404855-00405106 right uh given the market conditions you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01644-00405107-00405299 know and makes you money in the meantime +wmFaMS3KAB0-01645-00405300-00405593 so people want things like that like uh +wmFaMS3KAB0-01646-00405594-00405899 urine urine style tokenized vaults it's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01647-00405900-00406019 a little bit tricky because we have to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01648-00406020-00406252 manage you know like debt and +wmFaMS3KAB0-01649-00406253-00406673 liquidation stuff so working on that +wmFaMS3KAB0-01650-00406674-00407027 also working on we we did just roll out +wmFaMS3KAB0-01651-00407028-00407267 our like governance platform I know we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01652-00407268-00407471 we call it ungovernance but it uses the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01653-00407472-00407639 compound Bravo and it works like all the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01654-00407640-00407830 other governances the ungovernance is +wmFaMS3KAB0-01655-00407831-00408052 just the the meme to make sure that you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01656-00408053-00408371 know we we try to not uh do too much +wmFaMS3KAB0-01657-00408372-00408545 governance things +wmFaMS3KAB0-01658-00408546-00408737 um and then the last thing is that we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01659-00408738-00409049 are still researching and iterating on +wmFaMS3KAB0-01660-00409050-00409313 the controller with the goal of coming +wmFaMS3KAB0-01661-00409314-00409475 up with some sort of controller that we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01662-00409476-00409613 can lock in for a really long time +wmFaMS3KAB0-01663-00409614-00409834 without needing to change it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01664-00409835-00410003 um that won't of course happen without +wmFaMS3KAB0-01665-00410004-00410297 running it in prod for a while uh maybe +wmFaMS3KAB0-01666-00410297-00410453 you know a couple years with whatever we +wmFaMS3KAB0-01667-00410454-00410728 think is close to final but we are +wmFaMS3KAB0-01668-00410729-00410974 talking about that encourage people to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01669-00410975-00411347 join our Discord uh and uh jump into the +wmFaMS3KAB0-01670-00411347-00411514 research Channel just publish some stuff +wmFaMS3KAB0-01671-00411515-00411701 about the controller how it's working +wmFaMS3KAB0-01672-00411702-00411874 how it could be updated +wmFaMS3KAB0-01673-00411875-00412043 yeah we're just trying to remove things +wmFaMS3KAB0-01674-00412043-00412222 make it harder to change +wmFaMS3KAB0-01675-00412223-00412553 um hopefully uh also make it so that if +wmFaMS3KAB0-01676-00412554-00412822 one day the US decides that I can no +wmFaMS3KAB0-01677-00412823-00413093 longer touch it because I'm a US citizen +wmFaMS3KAB0-01678-00413093-00413272 there's other people who can still touch +wmFaMS3KAB0-01679-00413273-00413513 it and make it run uh and they don't +wmFaMS3KAB0-01680-00413514-00413795 live in the U.S +wmFaMS3KAB0-01681-00413796-00413987 cool well thanks so much I mean that was +wmFaMS3KAB0-01682-00413988-00414245 a that was a perfect like wrap-off in +wmFaMS3KAB0-01683-00414246-00414484 summary at the end and thanks so much +wmFaMS3KAB0-01684-00414485-00414743 for coming on that was really great I'm +wmFaMS3KAB0-01685-00414743-00415049 glad you're working on this uh and I'm +wmFaMS3KAB0-01686-00415050-00415289 excited to see you know we're +wmFaMS3KAB0-01687-00415289-00415643 right goes and where the idea of you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01688-00415643-00415897 know better better decentralized stable +wmFaMS3KAB0-01689-00415897-00416237 assets uh how that evolves in general so +wmFaMS3KAB0-01690-00416238-00416464 thanks so much for joining us +wmFaMS3KAB0-01691-00416465-00416651 yeah thanks for having me thanks for +wmFaMS3KAB0-01692-00416652-00416818 giving me the opportunity to talk to you +wmFaMS3KAB0-01693-00416819-00416951 guys about it +wmFaMS3KAB0-01694-00416952-00417143 cool and thanks so much for listening +wmFaMS3KAB0-01695-00417143-00417364 for once again tuning in if you want to +wmFaMS3KAB0-01696-00417365-00417545 support the show make sure to leave a +wmFaMS3KAB0-01697-00417546-00417832 snatch into its review or if remember +wmFaMS3KAB0-01698-00417833-00418120 the job post we have too so if that's +wmFaMS3KAB0-01699-00418121-00418366 you then get in touch and we look +wmFaMS3KAB0-01700-00418367-00418681 forward to being back next week +x06AmBQt7xg-00000-00000163-00002742 [Applause] +x06AmBQt7xg-00001-00002743-00002922 the champ comes into his title defense +x06AmBQt7xg-00002-00002923-00003152 incredibly competent Cory and with good +x06AmBQt7xg-00003-00003153-00003329 reason Cole when you're the champ you +x06AmBQt7xg-00004-00003330-00003453 don't have to worry about winning you +x06AmBQt7xg-00005-00003454-00003642 just have to make sure you don't lose +x06AmBQt7xg-00006-00003643-00004284 that is the champions advantage +x06AmBQt7xg-00007-00004285-00004443 tonight say she's never looked more +x06AmBQt7xg-00008-00004444-00004566 determined to walk out of a match +x06AmBQt7xg-00009-00004567-00004770 victorious than she looks right now she +x06AmBQt7xg-00010-00004771-00004971 definitely looks determined Michael but +x06AmBQt7xg-00011-00004972-00005116 so does the opposition +x06AmBQt7xg-00012-00005117-00005371 I guess something's gonna have to give +x06AmBQt7xg-00014-00008491-00008857 introducing the Challenger from Winnipeg +x06AmBQt7xg-00015-00008858-00010126 Manitoba Canada Chris Jerram introducing +x06AmBQt7xg-00016-00010127-00010507 the champion from Concord New Hampshire +x06AmBQt7xg-00017-00010508-00010920 she is the Intercontinental Champion +x06AmBQt7xg-00018-00010921-00011241 John Dee +x06AmBQt7xg-00019-00011242-00011870 [Applause] +x06AmBQt7xg-00020-00011871-00012104 if you can think about moving you better +x06AmBQt7xg-00021-00012105-00012249 apologize +x06AmBQt7xg-00022-00012250-00014519 [Applause] +x06AmBQt7xg-00023-00014519-00014719 this is it fellas were ready to get this +x06AmBQt7xg-00024-00014720-00014936 thing started look at her she's got +x06AmBQt7xg-00025-00014937-00015166 nerves of steel despite the title being +x06AmBQt7xg-00026-00015168-00015428 on the line she looks as poised as ever +x06AmBQt7xg-00027-00015429-00015605 and I don't think I've heard of Toronto +x06AmBQt7xg-00028-00015606-00015728 crowd this loud since we were in the +x06AmBQt7xg-00029-00015729-00016130 dome for Wrestlemania 18 and a tie-up +x06AmBQt7xg-00030-00016131-00016291 make no mistake about it this is all +x06AmBQt7xg-00031-00016293-00017300 about skill determination and power +x06AmBQt7xg-00032-00017301-00017643 how can she unseat the champ here come +x06AmBQt7xg-00033-00017644-00017844 on Michel minions challenger has come +x06AmBQt7xg-00034-00017845-00018075 this far only to be humiliated by the +x06AmBQt7xg-00035-00018076-00018306 champ well she definitely has all the +x06AmBQt7xg-00036-00018307-00018492 tools to become the champion but the +x06AmBQt7xg-00037-00018493-00019392 proof is in the pudding we shall see +x06AmBQt7xg-00038-00019393-00020730 [Applause] +x06AmBQt7xg-00039-00020731-00020910 I got a sharp pain in my neck just +x06AmBQt7xg-00040-00020911-00021433 watching that neckbreaker +x06AmBQt7xg-00041-00021434-00021942 well executed clothesline +x06AmBQt7xg-00042-00021943-00022174 if an apartment exhibits a weakness for +x06AmBQt7xg-00043-00022175-00022353 a specific move some will return to +x06AmBQt7xg-00044-00022354-00022543 utilizing that move as long as possible +x06AmBQt7xg-00045-00022544-00022997 [Applause] +x06AmBQt7xg-00046-00022998-00023189 I bet she won't let this golden +x06AmBQt7xg-00047-00023190-00023405 opportunity slip away now nobody +x06AmBQt7xg-00048-00023406-00023597 deserves to be disrespected the way she +x06AmBQt7xg-00049-00023598-00023803 disrespects people guys I'm a big +x06AmBQt7xg-00050-00023804-00024028 believer in treating people the way you +x06AmBQt7xg-00051-00024029-00024422 want to be treated she's going for the +x06AmBQt7xg-00052-00024423-00026000 cover and she kicks out nice kick out +x06AmBQt7xg-00053-00026001-00026789 [Music] +x06AmBQt7xg-00054-00026789-00028145 you know reverses it +x06AmBQt7xg-00055-00028145-00028433 that was such a hard fall that could +x06AmBQt7xg-00056-00028435-00029400 take all the energy right out of him +x06AmBQt7xg-00057-00029401-00029531 pays for that one +x06AmBQt7xg-00058-00029532-00030354 [Applause] +x06AmBQt7xg-00059-00030355-00030533 the Challenger not looking good right +x06AmBQt7xg-00060-00030534-00030764 now the challengers championship +x06AmBQt7xg-00061-00030766-00031058 aspirations are beginning to fade looks +x06AmBQt7xg-00062-00031059-00031205 to me guys like she may have +x06AmBQt7xg-00063-00031206-00031355 underestimated her opponent here tonight +x06AmBQt7xg-00064-00031356-00032664 and now she's paying for look at her go +x06AmBQt7xg-00065-00032666-00033479 [Music] +x06AmBQt7xg-00066-00033480-00033818 [Music] +x06AmBQt7xg-00067-00033819-00034089 he's starting to weaken some she knows 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the +x402NrYxQP4-00001-00000309-00000667 7th of April 1944 during World War two +x402NrYxQP4-00002-00000668-00001033 159 Boeing b-17 Flying Fortress of the +x402NrYxQP4-00003-00001034-00001291 United States Army Air Force escorted by +x402NrYxQP4-00004-00001292-00001556 Lockheed p-38 lightning fighters dropped +x402NrYxQP4-00005-00001557-00001747 over 2,000 bombs +x402NrYxQP4-00006-00001748-00002051 446 metric tons of ordnance during an +x402NrYxQP4-00007-00002052-00002255 attack which lasted five minutes from +x402NrYxQP4-00008-00002256-00002626 1:24 p.m. to 1:29 p.m. the target was +x402NrYxQP4-00009-00002627-00002795 the local marshalling yard but the +x402NrYxQP4-00010-00002796-00002992 inaccuracy of the bombing caused most of +x402NrYxQP4-00011-00002993-00003160 the bombs to fall all over the city +x402NrYxQP4-00012-00003161-00003560 destroying most of it out of 4,000 600 +x402NrYxQP4-00013-00003561-00003917 buildings 700 were destroyed 1,100 +x402NrYxQP4-00014-00003918-00004328 heavily damaged in 1962 slightly damaged +x402NrYxQP4-00015-00004329-00004613 a large part of the medieval parts of +x402NrYxQP4-00016-00004614-00004795 the city center were destroyed the +x402NrYxQP4-00017-00004796-00005047 medieval Palazzo de trecento distant +x402NrYxQP4-00018-00005048-00005302 only 700 meters from the objective was +x402NrYxQP4-00019-00005303-00005783 partly destroyed between 1000 and 1600 +x402NrYxQP4-00020-00005784-00006101 civilians were killed including 123 +x402NrYxQP4-00021-00006102-00006470 children the attackers lost one b-17 +x402NrYxQP4-00022-00006470-00006706 shot down by anti-aircraft guns of the +x402NrYxQP4-00023-00006708-00006881 nearby Airport as the bombing occurred +x402NrYxQP4-00024-00006881-00007151 on Good Friday fascist propaganda called +x402NrYxQP4-00025-00007152-00007601 the de Passion of Christ and of Trevizo +x402NrYxQP4-00026-00007602-00007849 a further 12 air raids both by the Royal +x402NrYxQP4-00027-00007850-00008144 Air Force in the USAAF mostly targeting +x402NrYxQP4-00028-00008145-00008345 the marshalling yard took place in the +x402NrYxQP4-00029-00008346-00008605 following 11 months on the 20th of April +x402NrYxQP4-00030-00008606-00009023 1944 the 14th of May 1944 the 20th of +x402NrYxQP4-00031-00009024-00009553 October 1944 21 22 25 in the 27th of +x402NrYxQP4-00032-00009554-00009944 December 1944 11:15 and the 31st of +x402NrYxQP4-00033-00009945-00010351 January 1945 and 13 in the 31st of March +x402NrYxQP4-00034-00010352-00010702 1945 these raids caused further damage +x402NrYxQP4-00035-00010703-00010946 and destruction to the town albeit none +x402NrYxQP4-00036-00010947-00011119 was as destructive and deadly as the +x402NrYxQP4-00037-00011120-00011488 first one had been Giuseppe Bertos novel +x402NrYxQP4-00038-00011489-00011651 the sky is red and the film with the +x402NrYxQP4-00039-00011652-00011843 same name as set during the bombing of +x402NrYxQP4-00040-00011844-00012523 treviso in its aftermath 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mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00025-00005616-00005847 commission our primary role and if i can +x5DFsRhEO3E-00026-00005848-00006063 just sort of you know quickly capture it +x5DFsRhEO3E-00027-00006064-00006222 is to really sort of help the government +x5DFsRhEO3E-00028-00006223-00006391 set strategic directions when it comes +x5DFsRhEO3E-00029-00006392-00006623 to mental health drug and alcohol and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00030-00006623-00006870 suicide prevention we're not responsible +x5DFsRhEO3E-00031-00006872-00007063 for implementation but we certainly +x5DFsRhEO3E-00032-00007064-00007278 support and leverage implementation but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00033-00007279-00007487 then we also do monitor +x5DFsRhEO3E-00034-00007488-00007831 report review on implementation progress +x5DFsRhEO3E-00035-00007831-00007974 to parliament through the minister for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00036-00007975-00008134 health so +x5DFsRhEO3E-00037-00008136-00008342 we're in the an independent statutory +x5DFsRhEO3E-00038-00008343-00008535 body which which tries to support +x5DFsRhEO3E-00039-00008536-00008735 government and the system +x5DFsRhEO3E-00040-00008736-00009031 and and and and drive change in terms of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00041-00009032-00009255 what's required +x5DFsRhEO3E-00042-00009256-00009503 look over the last couple of years apart +x5DFsRhEO3E-00043-00009504-00009703 from the pandemic we've also had some of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00044-00009704-00009927 these major significant inquiries so i +x5DFsRhEO3E-00045-00009928-00010078 really want to just touch on some of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00046-00010079-00010255 those critical aspects of those +x5DFsRhEO3E-00047-00010256-00010510 inquiries and their implications for us +x5DFsRhEO3E-00048-00010511-00010759 in queensland but also why i want to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00049-00010760-00010951 touch on the pandemic because obviously +x5DFsRhEO3E-00050-00010952-00011110 that's changed the landscape +x5DFsRhEO3E-00051-00011111-00011327 particularly around mental health and so 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with the sort +x5DFsRhEO3E-00066-00013936-00014094 of the most major +x5DFsRhEO3E-00067-00014095-00014255 sort of piece of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00068-00014256-00014551 research and and sort of inquiry that's +x5DFsRhEO3E-00069-00014552-00014751 occurred that was a report produced by +x5DFsRhEO3E-00070-00014752-00014951 the australian productivity commission +x5DFsRhEO3E-00071-00014952-00015255 inquiry into mental health now uh for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00072-00015256-00015447 people sort of benefit i'm sure that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00073-00015447-00015871 people have read the full 1 900 pages +x5DFsRhEO3E-00074-00015872-00016119 it's it's really providing an economic +x5DFsRhEO3E-00075-00016119-00016319 lens on mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00076-00016319-00016630 and if you look at that inquiry +x5DFsRhEO3E-00077-00016631-00016815 you'll see about the cost of mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-00078-00016816-00017022 health the cost of actually doing things +x5DFsRhEO3E-00079-00017023-00017215 the way we're doing it now which is +x5DFsRhEO3E-00080-00017216-00017543 anywhere between 550 and 600 +x5DFsRhEO3E-00081-00017544-00017783 million dollars a day +x5DFsRhEO3E-00082-00017784-00017871 so +x5DFsRhEO3E-00083-00017872-00018007 the productivity commission is +x5DFsRhEO3E-00084-00018008-00018271 suggesting we can do things differently +x5DFsRhEO3E-00085-00018272-00018511 the areas where we can make an impact +x5DFsRhEO3E-00086-00018512-00018711 and i can unpack these but i you know +x5DFsRhEO3E-00087-00018712-00018911 i'm not sure that time will allow but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00088-00018912-00019111 really around we've got to move the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00089-00019112-00019294 system upstream we've got to look at +x5DFsRhEO3E-00090-00019295-00019455 prevention and early intervention to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00091-00019456-00019614 help people +x5DFsRhEO3E-00092-00019615-00019758 we've got to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00093-00019759-00019967 support people to improve their +x5DFsRhEO3E-00094-00019968-00020191 experiences with the mental health care +x5DFsRhEO3E-00095-00020192-00020399 system as it is now +x5DFsRhEO3E-00096-00020400-00020694 and also improve people experiences +x5DFsRhEO3E-00097-00020695-00020822 beyond +x5DFsRhEO3E-00098-00020823-00021119 the health system obviously a strong +x5DFsRhEO3E-00099-00021120-00021383 focus on workforce and then we need to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00100-00021384-00021558 instill some sort of incentives and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00101-00021559-00021775 accountability for improved outcomes +x5DFsRhEO3E-00102-00021776-00021919 that's at the high +x5DFsRhEO3E-00103-00021920-00022071 high level in terms of what the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00104-00022072-00022350 productivity commission has recommended +x5DFsRhEO3E-00105-00022351-00022671 and not only will that be beneficial to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00106-00022672-00022807 individuals +x5DFsRhEO3E-00107-00022808-00023055 and families and carers but it will be +x5DFsRhEO3E-00108-00023056-00023383 beneficial to our community overall it +x5DFsRhEO3E-00109-00023384-00023622 will also be beneficial to our economy +x5DFsRhEO3E-00110-00023623-00023886 and i think it's important for us to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00111-00023887-00024055 think about what does that mean for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00112-00024056-00024286 queensland and i will talk a bit more +x5DFsRhEO3E-00113-00024287-00024463 now just quickly around +x5DFsRhEO3E-00114-00024464-00024711 that as a result of that the federal and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00115-00024712-00024886 state governments +x5DFsRhEO3E-00116-00024887-00025039 have agreed that they will develop a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00117-00025040-00025214 national partnership agreement on mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-00118-00025215-00025471 health and suicide prevention and that's +x5DFsRhEO3E-00119-00025472-00025646 in the current stages of being developed +x5DFsRhEO3E-00120-00025647-00025767 between the jurisdictions and the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00121-00025768-00025943 federal government and that's got some +x5DFsRhEO3E-00122-00025944-00026127 major implications for our system in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00123-00026127-00026327 queensland and i'll only mention a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00124-00026327-00026495 couple of these things and and i can go +x5DFsRhEO3E-00125-00026495-00026695 into a bit more detail but it's things +x5DFsRhEO3E-00126-00026695-00026958 like for example a lot of the bilaterals +x5DFsRhEO3E-00127-00026960-00027190 that will be done between jurisdictions +x5DFsRhEO3E-00128-00027191-00027374 and the federal government the ones that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00129-00027375-00027623 will really have a major impact on what +x5DFsRhEO3E-00130-00027624-00027839 we're doing is things like the adult +x5DFsRhEO3E-00131-00027839-00028007 mental health centers +x5DFsRhEO3E-00132-00028008-00028207 you know the head to health adult mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-00133-00028208-00028423 health centers and they're designed +x5DFsRhEO3E-00134-00028424-00028574 which i think is an important element +x5DFsRhEO3E-00135-00028575-00028758 they're designed to address the missing 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healthcare stage +x5DFsRhEO3E-00179-00037584-00037671 and then +x5DFsRhEO3E-00180-00037672-00037871 there is further support to come around +x5DFsRhEO3E-00181-00037872-00038046 they're calling it aftercare but it's +x5DFsRhEO3E-00182-00038047-00038230 more support for people in the sort of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00183-00038231-00038462 way back type of programs which you may +x5DFsRhEO3E-00184-00038463-00038751 have heard of people who present to ed +x5DFsRhEO3E-00185-00038752-00039023 and who may have suicidal ideation but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00186-00039024-00039302 don't get an inpatient service and and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00187-00039303-00039430 get referred to a whole range of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00188-00039431-00039559 services +x5DFsRhEO3E-00189-00039560-00039807 active and proactive follow-up of these +x5DFsRhEO3E-00190-00039808-00040007 people is also going to be further +x5DFsRhEO3E-00191-00040008-00040143 enhanced and we've got some clear +x5DFsRhEO3E-00192-00040144-00040415 evidence that that's working 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strong +x5DFsRhEO3E-00220-00046487-00046671 focus around suicide a whole range of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00221-00046672-00046895 things but really a strong component +x5DFsRhEO3E-00222-00046896-00047055 will be around the post-vention +x5DFsRhEO3E-00223-00047056-00047262 supporting communities and people who +x5DFsRhEO3E-00224-00047263-00047527 have been affected and in grief as a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00225-00047528-00047735 result of a suicide just to touch on +x5DFsRhEO3E-00226-00047736-00047918 some of the major things which i think +x5DFsRhEO3E-00227-00047919-00048143 the productivity commission but also the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00228-00048144-00048327 np the national partnership agreement +x5DFsRhEO3E-00229-00048328-00048558 sorry will actually include which means +x5DFsRhEO3E-00230-00048559-00048783 that the state system will change as a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00231-00048784-00048974 result of this so i think just if you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00232-00048975-00049151 keep that in mind this is important for 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all of the recommendations +x5DFsRhEO3E-00260-00054520-00054735 before they saw the final report +x5DFsRhEO3E-00261-00054736-00054854 now i know it's still going to have +x5DFsRhEO3E-00262-00054855-00055054 challenges none of this is perfect but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00263-00055055-00055223 you know i have not been on and i've +x5DFsRhEO3E-00264-00055224-00055375 been in this sector for you know nearly +x5DFsRhEO3E-00265-00055376-00055607 30 years so i'm showing my age but i +x5DFsRhEO3E-00266-00055608-00055871 haven't seen any government agree to to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00267-00055872-00056030 all the recommendations before they saw +x5DFsRhEO3E-00268-00056032-00056247 them but i also have never seen even at +x5DFsRhEO3E-00269-00056248-00056430 the federal level or the state level a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00270-00056432-00056687 3.6 billion dollar investment in mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-00271-00056688-00056871 health i just think that's that's sort +x5DFsRhEO3E-00272-00056872-00056959 of you know 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we've had bits and pieces a lot the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00287-00059872-00060007 barrett review and a whole range of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00288-00060008-00060182 things but we haven't had a systemic +x5DFsRhEO3E-00289-00060183-00060430 review and i think there is a bit of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00290-00060432-00060566 groundswell at the moment certainly +x5DFsRhEO3E-00291-00060567-00060687 coming from some of the college of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00292-00060688-00060847 psychiatry and some of the other +x5DFsRhEO3E-00293-00060848-00061006 professional groupings but you know +x5DFsRhEO3E-00294-00061007-00061159 consumers and carers who are certainly +x5DFsRhEO3E-00295-00061160-00061494 in contact with me are saying +x5DFsRhEO3E-00296-00061495-00061679 we in queensland need a review at the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00297-00061679-00061879 moment queensland is one of the lowest +x5DFsRhEO3E-00298-00061879-00062047 per capita spending states when it comes +x5DFsRhEO3E-00299-00062048-00062263 to mental health so i think those 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mental health commission +x5DFsRhEO3E-00314-00065136-00065326 as we have in queens and other states +x5DFsRhEO3E-00315-00065327-00065479 and why can't +x5DFsRhEO3E-00316-00065479-00065655 the standing commissions be given the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00317-00065656-00065815 additional power that they need to be +x5DFsRhEO3E-00318-00065816-00066038 able to do a systemic review and not and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00319-00066039-00066255 not have to spend 35 million +x5DFsRhEO3E-00320-00066256-00066494 or 40 50 million and use that money to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00321-00066495-00066735 actually beef up services so that seems +x5DFsRhEO3E-00322-00066736-00066879 to be the state of play at the more sort +x5DFsRhEO3E-00323-00066880-00067063 of national state level at this +x5DFsRhEO3E-00324-00067064-00067335 particular point in time +x5DFsRhEO3E-00325-00067336-00067438 just quickly +x5DFsRhEO3E-00326-00067439-00067638 in terms of the pandemic i just wanted +x5DFsRhEO3E-00327-00067639-00067871 to sort of touch on that you 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becoming such a huge priority at the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00356-00073392-00073726 moment um in fact we're seeing and i was +x5DFsRhEO3E-00357-00073727-00073862 just going to go through some of this +x5DFsRhEO3E-00358-00073863-00074079 increase in demand for services would +x5DFsRhEO3E-00359-00074080-00074287 would certainly indicate that we have +x5DFsRhEO3E-00360-00074288-00074503 seen for example +x5DFsRhEO3E-00361-00074504-00074791 anywhere and and again depends who you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00362-00074792-00075047 talk to at what particular point in time +x5DFsRhEO3E-00363-00075048-00075238 are we reflecting victoria or new south +x5DFsRhEO3E-00364-00075239-00075447 wales are we reflecting queensland but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00365-00075448-00075671 we've seen an increase in demand +x5DFsRhEO3E-00366-00075672-00075903 generally across services and i'll talk +x5DFsRhEO3E-00367-00075904-00076175 more about this between 20 and 50 +x5DFsRhEO3E-00368-00076176-00076359 in terms of services so some of the 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support their young people +x5DFsRhEO3E-00396-00082368-00082559 in you know they they're needing the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00397-00082560-00082775 support so i think part of it is and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00398-00082776-00082959 people say well what are the major +x5DFsRhEO3E-00399-00082960-00083111 issues that we're seeing presentations +x5DFsRhEO3E-00400-00083112-00083318 particularly in the public system is +x5DFsRhEO3E-00401-00083319-00083687 depression anxiety suicidal ideation and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00402-00083688-00083847 eating disorders +x5DFsRhEO3E-00403-00083848-00084118 eating disorders in fact i would say as +x5DFsRhEO3E-00404-00084119-00084238 i speak to a colleague who's a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00405-00084239-00084455 specialist in this area it's not so much +x5DFsRhEO3E-00406-00084456-00084662 that classic eating disorders you know +x5DFsRhEO3E-00407-00084663-00084911 anorexia bulimia etc it's actually +x5DFsRhEO3E-00408-00084912-00085111 eating disordered +x5DFsRhEO3E-00409-00085112-00085303 young 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graduations uh the uncertainty about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00425-00088104-00088343 where do i go from here about university +x5DFsRhEO3E-00426-00088344-00088550 job all sorts of things i've lost my +x5DFsRhEO3E-00427-00088551-00088799 part-time job you know all those things +x5DFsRhEO3E-00428-00088800-00088943 are impacting on young people at the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00429-00088944-00089094 moment and they're certainly some of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00430-00089095-00089350 things that we're seeing so a focus on +x5DFsRhEO3E-00431-00089351-00089567 young people is critical but we're also +x5DFsRhEO3E-00432-00089568-00089647 seeing +x5DFsRhEO3E-00433-00089648-00089862 parents ringing up about their the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00434-00089863-00090143 little ones so the sort of the 12 years +x5DFsRhEO3E-00435-00090144-00090262 under +x5DFsRhEO3E-00436-00090263-00090462 that also they're being impacted in many +x5DFsRhEO3E-00437-00090463-00090631 ways particularly not being able to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00438-00090632-00090838 socialize and i'm not certainly i've got +x5DFsRhEO3E-00439-00090839-00091111 family in victoria but also you know of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00440-00091112-00091303 the other jurisdictions etc will tell +x5DFsRhEO3E-00441-00091304-00091503 you that you can see the impact on some +x5DFsRhEO3E-00442-00091504-00091687 of that child development stuff where +x5DFsRhEO3E-00443-00091688-00091959 kids have been primarily not being able +x5DFsRhEO3E-00444-00091960-00092182 to socialize not being able to go to you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00445-00092183-00092406 know pre-school kindy and all those you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00446-00092407-00092599 know types of things so we're seeing a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00447-00092600-00092791 development but now parents are asking +x5DFsRhEO3E-00448-00092792-00093126 what can i do to support my that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00449-00093127-00093391 the younger age group to explain to them +x5DFsRhEO3E-00450-00093392-00093567 a range of these things that are actual +x5DFsRhEO3E-00451-00093568-00093838 fact happening uh for them and how do i +x5DFsRhEO3E-00452-00093839-00093999 deal with this and work with this to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00453-00094000-00094223 ensure that the impact is minimalized so +x5DFsRhEO3E-00454-00094224-00094350 these are some of the things that we're +x5DFsRhEO3E-00455-00094351-00094638 grappling with and i'm just about out of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00456-00094639-00094894 time so so just quickly to tell you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00457-00094895-00095223 about some of the things that we are +x5DFsRhEO3E-00458-00095224-00095438 that we that we are working on but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00459-00095439-00095606 there's lots happening and i have to say +x5DFsRhEO3E-00460-00095607-00095894 the queensland government uh has has +x5DFsRhEO3E-00461-00095895-00096143 probably um done +x5DFsRhEO3E-00462-00096144-00096279 something which i think has probably +x5DFsRhEO3E-00463-00096280-00096494 been you know sort of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00464-00096495-00096759 the only approach in the country was 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have gps embedded within +x5DFsRhEO3E-00492-00102576-00102830 the schools so we're seeing sort of that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00493-00102831-00103206 more preventative stuff moving upstream +x5DFsRhEO3E-00494-00103207-00103375 the other bit that we did and you might +x5DFsRhEO3E-00495-00103376-00103510 have seen this but we're also planning +x5DFsRhEO3E-00496-00103511-00103702 to do some more stuff we did some work +x5DFsRhEO3E-00497-00103703-00103847 with queensland health around the dear +x5DFsRhEO3E-00498-00103848-00104047 mind campaign before the pandemic about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00499-00104048-00104230 how do you maintain wellness and there's +x5DFsRhEO3E-00500-00104231-00104454 lots of resources and i don't i haven't +x5DFsRhEO3E-00501-00104455-00104654 got the time to talk about them now but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00502-00104655-00104871 if you're interested look at that dmi +x5DFsRhEO3E-00503-00104872-00105086 campaign if people can actually run +x5DFsRhEO3E-00504-00105088-00105390 activities locally we'd support that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00505-00105391-00105623 would be fantastic the other bit with +x5DFsRhEO3E-00506-00105624-00105799 that dmi we did something specific +x5DFsRhEO3E-00507-00105800-00106015 around the pandemic as you probably have +x5DFsRhEO3E-00508-00106016-00106134 seen about how you look after your +x5DFsRhEO3E-00509-00106135-00106334 mental health during the pandemic but at +x5DFsRhEO3E-00510-00106335-00106478 the moment we're having discussions +x5DFsRhEO3E-00511-00106479-00106639 around just the point i raised early +x5DFsRhEO3E-00512-00106640-00106775 about young people +x5DFsRhEO3E-00513-00106776-00107015 how do we look at emerging minds and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00514-00107016-00107166 what does that mean for young people +x5DFsRhEO3E-00515-00107167-00107375 this pandemic both the younger ones and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00516-00107376-00107639 families and more the adolescent you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00517-00107640-00107863 know the teenage type of group so we're 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+x5DFsRhEO3E-00546-00113848-00114086 government around drug and alcohol and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00547-00114088-00114310 we have put up a policy consideration +x5DFsRhEO3E-00548-00114311-00114527 for them about how to take reform in the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00549-00114528-00114775 drug and alcohol area forward +x5DFsRhEO3E-00550-00114776-00114990 uh drug and alcohol and consumption of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00551-00114991-00115207 drug and alcohol has increased +x5DFsRhEO3E-00552-00115208-00115407 considerably during the pandemic but it +x5DFsRhEO3E-00553-00115408-00115695 has been an issue for us for a long time +x5DFsRhEO3E-00554-00115696-00115919 remember alcohol is a much bigger issue +x5DFsRhEO3E-00555-00115920-00116134 than illicit substances +x5DFsRhEO3E-00556-00116135-00116431 three to one primarily in terms of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00557-00116432-00116790 impact on society individuals families +x5DFsRhEO3E-00558-00116791-00116943 community +x5DFsRhEO3E-00559-00116944-00117134 government the system the economy +x5DFsRhEO3E-00560-00117135-00117431 alcohol is three is three times more of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00561-00117432-00117678 an impact than illicit substances but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00562-00117679-00117863 primarily around what what we're +x5DFsRhEO3E-00563-00117864-00118015 suggesting to government in the new +x5DFsRhEO3E-00564-00118016-00118143 approach to drug and alcohol in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00565-00118144-00118366 queensland is about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00566-00118367-00118678 let's divert people who have a health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00567-00118679-00118966 problem an addiction let's divert them +x5DFsRhEO3E-00568-00118967-00119166 out of the criminal justice system into +x5DFsRhEO3E-00569-00119167-00119351 a health response if they haven't +x5DFsRhEO3E-00570-00119352-00119607 committed any other crime a part being +x5DFsRhEO3E-00571-00119608-00119807 apart from being caught with small +x5DFsRhEO3E-00572-00119808-00120086 amounts with small amounts of substance +x5DFsRhEO3E-00573-00120088-00120327 illicit substance for personal use and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00574-00120328-00120478 consumption they're not traffickers +x5DFsRhEO3E-00575-00120479-00120671 suppliers or manufacturers +x5DFsRhEO3E-00576-00120672-00120895 let's get those people into treatment +x5DFsRhEO3E-00577-00120896-00121039 rather than into +x5DFsRhEO3E-00578-00121040-00121175 the courts +x5DFsRhEO3E-00579-00121176-00121390 and the prisons so there's lots things +x5DFsRhEO3E-00580-00121391-00121534 happening at this particular point in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00581-00121535-00121671 time both at the national and state +x5DFsRhEO3E-00582-00121672-00121902 level and i think we've got a lot to do +x5DFsRhEO3E-00583-00121903-00122127 as we go forward but i think picking up +x5DFsRhEO3E-00584-00122128-00122286 the increase in demand for services +x5DFsRhEO3E-00585-00122288-00122566 overall the impact of the pandemic and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00586-00122567-00122710 how do we actually +x5DFsRhEO3E-00587-00122711-00122934 change the mental health system and this +x5DFsRhEO3E-00588-00122935-00123054 is what i think the victorians are +x5DFsRhEO3E-00589-00123055-00123214 trying to do now and the commonwealth +x5DFsRhEO3E-00590-00123215-00123463 money is trying to do that now providing +x5DFsRhEO3E-00591-00123464-00123727 support for people in the community in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00592-00123728-00124007 situ when they need it without having to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00593-00124008-00124214 be at that really extreme +x5DFsRhEO3E-00594-00124215-00124478 crisis stage that you then need a you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00595-00124479-00124710 know police officer and an ambo to take +x5DFsRhEO3E-00596-00124711-00124958 you into ed that's that whole shift that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00597-00124959-00125231 we're trying to make at the moment so um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00598-00125232-00125390 thank you very much and i hope that was +x5DFsRhEO3E-00599-00125391-00125575 useful +x5DFsRhEO3E-00600-00125576-00125847 thanks ivan yes extremely useful i'm +x5DFsRhEO3E-00601-00125848-00126086 sure everyone will agree um always great +x5DFsRhEO3E-00602-00126088-00126383 to have um an update from you and i you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00603-00126383-00126543 know never want you to rush because +x5DFsRhEO3E-00604-00126544-00126695 you've you know you've got lots to say +x5DFsRhEO3E-00605-00126696-00126790 and um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00606-00126791-00127007 uh we really appreciate you taking the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00607-00127008-00127263 time we do have a question it's from +x5DFsRhEO3E-00608-00127264-00127439 kathy o'toole i think kathy's on the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00609-00127440-00127686 board at the queensland alliance for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00610-00127688-00127823 mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00611-00127824-00127958 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00612-00127959-00128134 she's asked the systemic review as long +x5DFsRhEO3E-00613-00128135-00128254 as do you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00614-00128255-00128399 ivan do you have any ideas on how +x5DFsRhEO3E-00615-00128400-00128623 community can advocate for such a review +x5DFsRhEO3E-00616-00128624-00128766 the attention on prevention and early +x5DFsRhEO3E-00617-00128767-00128895 intervention +x5DFsRhEO3E-00618-00128896-00129158 they're critical +x5DFsRhEO3E-00619-00129159-00129447 look look i think i think i think at the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00620-00129448-00129631 moment the community is already +x5DFsRhEO3E-00621-00129632-00129790 advocating now whether formally the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00622-00129791-00130095 alliance does or not i mean i i haven't +x5DFsRhEO3E-00623-00130096-00130254 heard but i think generally the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00624-00130255-00130431 community has been advocating for this +x5DFsRhEO3E-00625-00130432-00130647 i've certainly had approaches to me both +x5DFsRhEO3E-00626-00130648-00130886 from families people lived experience +x5DFsRhEO3E-00627-00130888-00131151 i've had from agencies i've had from the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00628-00131152-00131414 professional associations so it's it i'm +x5DFsRhEO3E-00629-00131415-00131599 certainly hearing that more and more and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00630-00131600-00131751 certainly the minister is as well in the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00631-00131752-00131943 government now +x5DFsRhEO3E-00632-00131944-00132207 uh i think uh at at the moment it's +x5DFsRhEO3E-00633-00132208-00132407 really i'm leaving it for a government +x5DFsRhEO3E-00634-00132408-00132614 decision whether they think a review is +x5DFsRhEO3E-00635-00132615-00132823 warranted or needed and then have a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00636-00132824-00133031 discussion around how that may occur but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00637-00133032-00133207 certainly with both kathy and jennifer +x5DFsRhEO3E-00638-00133208-00133439 here online it's it's certainly also an +x5DFsRhEO3E-00639-00133440-00133559 option for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00640-00133560-00133799 for for you know for the alliance and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00641-00133800-00134087 and and and other players you know like +x5DFsRhEO3E-00642-00134088-00134271 checkup and others etc and people around +x5DFsRhEO3E-00643-00134272-00134439 the table here who may also have +x5DFsRhEO3E-00644-00134440-00134599 particularly strong views about the need +x5DFsRhEO3E-00645-00134600-00134775 for review to express those through +x5DFsRhEO3E-00646-00134776-00134911 various channels whether it's your local +x5DFsRhEO3E-00647-00134912-00135159 mps whether it's you know ministers +x5DFsRhEO3E-00648-00135160-00135431 government even myself etc i'm certainly +x5DFsRhEO3E-00649-00135432-00135702 taking all of that you know in my to my +x5DFsRhEO3E-00650-00135703-00135887 discussions with the minister and with +x5DFsRhEO3E-00651-00135888-00136087 government +x5DFsRhEO3E-00652-00136088-00136263 great thanks ivan i'm sure yep there +x5DFsRhEO3E-00653-00136264-00136399 might be a few people online that will +x5DFsRhEO3E-00654-00136400-00136639 take up that i guess that challenge to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00655-00136640-00136911 um you know make noise and um let their +x5DFsRhEO3E-00656-00136912-00137063 views be known +x5DFsRhEO3E-00657-00137064-00137254 um ivan i believe you have to leave us +x5DFsRhEO3E-00658-00137255-00137543 now you've got a busy day as always so +x5DFsRhEO3E-00659-00137544-00137839 on behalf of um everyone online uh thank +x5DFsRhEO3E-00660-00137840-00138007 you again for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00661-00138008-00138247 giving us a presentation and i'm sure +x5DFsRhEO3E-00662-00138248-00138423 we'll see you we've got queensland +x5DFsRhEO3E-00663-00138424-00138599 mental health week coming up lisa is +x5DFsRhEO3E-00664-00138600-00138799 going to talk about that later so lots +x5DFsRhEO3E-00665-00138800-00138975 happening um in the next couple of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00666-00138976-00139127 months in the lead up to mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00667-00139128-00139399 week so um thanks again ivan and thank +x5DFsRhEO3E-00668-00139400-00139647 you very soon i'll stay for a while i +x5DFsRhEO3E-00669-00139648-00139743 want to listen to some of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00670-00139744-00139975 presentations but we will just phase out +x5DFsRhEO3E-00671-00139976-00140151 as we need to go so thank you very much +x5DFsRhEO3E-00672-00140152-00140239 and i'm +x5DFsRhEO3E-00673-00140240-00140359 i'll stand for a while but i'll turn my +x5DFsRhEO3E-00674-00140360-00140663 camera off so i can have a drink +x5DFsRhEO3E-00675-00140664-00140839 have a cup of tea +x5DFsRhEO3E-00676-00140840-00141007 thanks simon +x5DFsRhEO3E-00677-00141008-00141254 okay um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00678-00141255-00141343 can +x5DFsRhEO3E-00679-00141344-00141543 i guess can you see +x5DFsRhEO3E-00680-00141544-00141902 i think i'm online yes i am okay so next +x5DFsRhEO3E-00681-00141903-00142143 time um our next speaker today is +x5DFsRhEO3E-00682-00142144-00142351 jennifer black jennifer presented i +x5DFsRhEO3E-00683-00142352-00142583 think you're rather new at the alliance +x5DFsRhEO3E-00684-00142584-00142807 um 12 months ago +x5DFsRhEO3E-00685-00142808-00142959 but jennifer is the ceo of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00686-00142960-00143159 queensland alliance for mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00687-00143160-00143343 it's the peak body for the community +x5DFsRhEO3E-00688-00143344-00143743 health sector in queensland um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00689-00143744-00143999 jennifer has worked in victoria um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00690-00144000-00144135 extensively +x5DFsRhEO3E-00691-00144136-00144326 with over 30 years experience in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00692-00144327-00144471 government public private and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00693-00144472-00144743 not-for-profit mental health sectors and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00694-00144744-00144919 i guess we're touching on i haven't +x5DFsRhEO3E-00695-00144920-00145135 mentioned the the low end the middle and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00696-00145136-00145335 the sort of the extreme end and i think +x5DFsRhEO3E-00697-00145336-00145447 we're covering +x5DFsRhEO3E-00698-00145448-00145735 that quite nicely today from activities +x5DFsRhEO3E-00699-00145736-00145935 in mental health week right through to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00700-00145936-00146151 suicide prevention and general practice +x5DFsRhEO3E-00701-00146152-00146383 and and jennifer your presentations on a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00702-00146384-00146463 new +x5DFsRhEO3E-00703-00146464-00146607 um strategy +x5DFsRhEO3E-00704-00146608-00146847 uh that the alliance has put out called +x5DFsRhEO3E-00705-00146848-00147054 well-being first so if you'd like to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00706-00147055-00147295 share your screen um we'll hand over to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00707-00147296-00147559 you jennifer to talk about that okay +x5DFsRhEO3E-00708-00147560-00147854 thank you and hello everyone +x5DFsRhEO3E-00709-00147855-00148087 um before i start i'd like to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00710-00148088-00148335 acknowledge the traditional owners of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00711-00148336-00148566 the land on which we meet +x5DFsRhEO3E-00712-00148567-00148807 and pay my respects to elders past +x5DFsRhEO3E-00713-00148808-00149031 present and emerging i'm just going to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00714-00149032-00149311 share my screen can you see that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00715-00149312-00149607 yes that's fine thanks +x5DFsRhEO3E-00716-00149608-00149807 let's get it to full screen so you don't +x5DFsRhEO3E-00717-00149808-00150126 see what's coming is that working no +x5DFsRhEO3E-00718-00150127-00150239 just +x5DFsRhEO3E-00719-00150240-00150502 ah how about that that's it perfect +x5DFsRhEO3E-00720-00150503-00150671 beautiful okay +x5DFsRhEO3E-00721-00150672-00151007 um so thank you david and yes uh the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00722-00151008-00151254 alliance has um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00723-00151255-00151487 just released a report called wellbeing +x5DFsRhEO3E-00724-00151488-00151814 first um which is available on our +x5DFsRhEO3E-00725-00151815-00152063 website if you'd like to read the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00726-00152064-00152231 full report +x5DFsRhEO3E-00727-00152232-00152390 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00728-00152391-00152631 so the queensland alliance for mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-00729-00152632-00152783 health is the peak body for the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00730-00152784-00153014 community mental health sector so that's +x5DFsRhEO3E-00731-00153015-00153087 the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00732-00153088-00153239 not-for-profit +x5DFsRhEO3E-00733-00153240-00153454 grassroots services +x5DFsRhEO3E-00734-00153455-00153726 um that deliver +x5DFsRhEO3E-00735-00153727-00153951 community-based mental health services +x5DFsRhEO3E-00736-00153952-00154295 to the community around queensland +x5DFsRhEO3E-00737-00154296-00154407 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00738-00154408-00154502 and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00739-00154503-00154678 when the i've i've actually been with +x5DFsRhEO3E-00740-00154679-00155039 the alliance for about 18 months and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00741-00155040-00155254 of course when i moved from victoria i +x5DFsRhEO3E-00742-00155255-00155495 thought you know never in my wildest +x5DFsRhEO3E-00743-00155496-00155695 dreams did i think that we would be in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00744-00155696-00155990 the situation we're in and um not able +x5DFsRhEO3E-00745-00155991-00156351 to freely travel around the country +x5DFsRhEO3E-00746-00156352-00156431 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00747-00156432-00156726 so the alliance wanted to do a piece of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00748-00156727-00156966 work um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00749-00156967-00157278 for a number of reasons but this report +x5DFsRhEO3E-00750-00157279-00157526 sets out a vision for the sector +x5DFsRhEO3E-00751-00157527-00157775 um for the future and we took the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00752-00157776-00157951 opportunity at the beginning of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00753-00157952-00158343 pandemic to partner with a futurist +x5DFsRhEO3E-00754-00158344-00158599 and we also partnered with uh helen +x5DFsRhEO3E-00755-00158600-00158943 glover and a range of key stakeholders +x5DFsRhEO3E-00756-00158944-00159207 within our membership base and and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00757-00159208-00159535 beyond +x5DFsRhEO3E-00758-00159536-00159647 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00759-00159648-00159959 so so what were the things that led up +x5DFsRhEO3E-00760-00159960-00160175 to us thinking about this +x5DFsRhEO3E-00761-00160176-00160278 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00762-00160279-00160447 well it was a bit of a perfect storm +x5DFsRhEO3E-00763-00160448-00160807 really uh so we had covert 19 that had +x5DFsRhEO3E-00764-00160808-00161111 uh that had hit us for the first time in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00765-00161112-00161335 in my career in mental health did we +x5DFsRhEO3E-00766-00161336-00161559 have the whole of the population talking +x5DFsRhEO3E-00767-00161560-00161766 about the importance of their collective +x5DFsRhEO3E-00768-00161767-00161878 well-being +x5DFsRhEO3E-00769-00161879-00162111 um we've never heard that before and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00770-00162112-00162375 that was an opportunity to to start to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00771-00162376-00162483 think about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00772-00162484-00162759 um you know the impacts of the pandemic +x5DFsRhEO3E-00773-00162760-00162990 on on people's well well-being on their +x5DFsRhEO3E-00774-00162991-00163214 mental health and their well-being +x5DFsRhEO3E-00775-00163215-00163511 um the productivity commission had just +x5DFsRhEO3E-00776-00163512-00163823 delivered yet another report +x5DFsRhEO3E-00777-00163824-00164126 that outlined some systemic issues with +x5DFsRhEO3E-00778-00164127-00164399 the with the mental health system +x5DFsRhEO3E-00779-00164400-00164687 um and you know it it +x5DFsRhEO3E-00780-00164688-00164959 quite compellingly pointed out that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00781-00164960-00165263 people are missing out on services that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00782-00165264-00165559 they could have within our system +x5DFsRhEO3E-00783-00165560-00165695 uh that the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00784-00165696-00165935 acute system is under pressure +x5DFsRhEO3E-00785-00165936-00166151 um that the way people get mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00786-00166152-00166431 care in our current system is to present +x5DFsRhEO3E-00787-00166432-00166702 to a.d or present to the acute +x5DFsRhEO3E-00788-00166703-00166895 services +x5DFsRhEO3E-00789-00166896-00167063 and whilst there's some +x5DFsRhEO3E-00790-00167064-00167238 early intervention +x5DFsRhEO3E-00791-00167239-00167447 um in terms of you know some of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00792-00167448-00167687 intervention in child and youth +x5DFsRhEO3E-00793-00167688-00167783 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00794-00167784-00167887 areas +x5DFsRhEO3E-00795-00167888-00168135 early intervention in episode of illness +x5DFsRhEO3E-00796-00168136-00168438 is um is not strong in the way that we +x5DFsRhEO3E-00797-00168439-00168702 deliver services and an iron referred to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00798-00168703-00168895 the missing middle which is a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00799-00168896-00169102 an example of that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00800-00169103-00169311 we also in queensland had the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00801-00169312-00169575 introduction of a new mental a new human +x5DFsRhEO3E-00802-00169576-00169702 rights act +x5DFsRhEO3E-00803-00169703-00170078 um so for decades we've been hearing um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00804-00170079-00170247 stories about how people are +x5DFsRhEO3E-00805-00170248-00170478 experiencing care that was echoed in the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00806-00170479-00170711 in the productivity commission as well +x5DFsRhEO3E-00807-00170712-00170990 that this was an opportunity to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00808-00170991-00171175 think about our mental health services +x5DFsRhEO3E-00809-00171176-00171407 in a different way +x5DFsRhEO3E-00810-00171408-00171623 um so look ovens talk a little bit about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00811-00171624-00171895 the impacts of covet 19 and yeah it +x5DFsRhEO3E-00812-00171896-00172095 depends on where you get your stats as +x5DFsRhEO3E-00813-00172096-00172311 to what the percentages are but they're +x5DFsRhEO3E-00814-00172312-00172495 pretty compelling +x5DFsRhEO3E-00815-00172496-00172735 but really covered 19 has amplified the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00816-00172736-00172966 problems that perhaps the productivity +x5DFsRhEO3E-00817-00172967-00173223 commission has outlined +x5DFsRhEO3E-00818-00173224-00173454 and i guess +x5DFsRhEO3E-00819-00173455-00173751 whilst it's easy to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00820-00173752-00173966 fund more of the same i think the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00821-00173967-00174183 productivity commission and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00822-00174184-00174351 you know the voice of lived experience +x5DFsRhEO3E-00823-00174352-00174614 that for decades has been advocating for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00824-00174615-00174838 something different in our mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00825-00174839-00175063 system but we do know that there's been +x5DFsRhEO3E-00826-00175064-00175263 a significant increase to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00827-00175264-00175478 support lines call lines +x5DFsRhEO3E-00828-00175479-00175790 um you know the surveys around uh the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00829-00175791-00176031 population 78 percent of australians +x5DFsRhEO3E-00830-00176032-00176335 report their mental health has worsened +x5DFsRhEO3E-00831-00176336-00176647 loneliness has become a huge factor +x5DFsRhEO3E-00832-00176648-00176847 and in queensland we have a 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+x5DFsRhEO3E-00861-00183160-00183423 on the homeschooling requirements that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00862-00183424-00183638 uh that really impact on women and of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00863-00183639-00183783 course we know the geography of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00864-00183784-00184135 queensland is that we do have um a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00865-00184136-00184478 really diverse population we have +x5DFsRhEO3E-00866-00184479-00184687 isolated communities that don't have +x5DFsRhEO3E-00867-00184688-00185038 access to services um and we have you +x5DFsRhEO3E-00868-00185039-00185238 know uh rates of suicide in some of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00869-00185239-00185638 those regions um that that need some +x5DFsRhEO3E-00870-00185639-00185807 attention +x5DFsRhEO3E-00871-00185808-00186007 um so what are the arguments for change +x5DFsRhEO3E-00872-00186008-00186238 so i guess i'm just taking you through +x5DFsRhEO3E-00873-00186239-00186495 um really what our report talks about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00874-00186496-00186807 and where we're going with it um so we +x5DFsRhEO3E-00875-00186808-00187014 know from royal commissions the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00876-00187015-00187199 productivity commissions people's +x5DFsRhEO3E-00877-00187200-00187431 experience of care +x5DFsRhEO3E-00878-00187432-00187566 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00879-00187567-00187847 is not always ideal people report +x5DFsRhEO3E-00880-00187848-00188119 stories of feeling traumatized by the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00881-00188120-00188399 the mental health system +x5DFsRhEO3E-00882-00188400-00188487 and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00883-00188488-00188663 for decades +x5DFsRhEO3E-00884-00188664-00188863 many people have been talking about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00885-00188864-00189078 having a different sort of system that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00886-00189079-00189302 that works with them much earlier in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00887-00189303-00189447 their distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-00888-00189448-00189719 and provides uh practical solutions for +x5DFsRhEO3E-00889-00189720-00190054 them in in relation to that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00890-00190055-00190295 the productivity commission outlined the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00891-00190296-00190526 economics of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00892-00190527-00190750 investing in mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-00893-00190751-00190838 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00894-00190839-00191135 at which was which was a compelling +x5DFsRhEO3E-00895-00191136-00191335 four thousand pages of whatever it was +x5DFsRhEO3E-00896-00191336-00191431 either +x5DFsRhEO3E-00897-00191432-00191638 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00898-00191639-00191790 so uh +x5DFsRhEO3E-00899-00191791-00192014 you know really what we what we were +x5DFsRhEO3E-00900-00192015-00192238 what we're trying to create through our +x5DFsRhEO3E-00901-00192239-00192566 report is some alternatives to reduce +x5DFsRhEO3E-00902-00192567-00192807 the burden on the acute system +x5DFsRhEO3E-00903-00192808-00193071 um some of people's experiences of care +x5DFsRhEO3E-00904-00193072-00193366 is that they need to present to ed to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00905-00193367-00193678 get a service um so a crisis-driven +x5DFsRhEO3E-00906-00193679-00193902 service like that is not really helping +x5DFsRhEO3E-00907-00193903-00194135 people early in their distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-00908-00194136-00194350 um so there's you know +x5DFsRhEO3E-00909-00194351-00194543 we believe there's some answers in this +x5DFsRhEO3E-00910-00194544-00194647 about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00911-00194648-00194887 providing alternatives to actually +x5DFsRhEO3E-00912-00194888-00195087 filter people away from eds to perhaps +x5DFsRhEO3E-00913-00195088-00195399 something that's more appropriate +x5DFsRhEO3E-00914-00195400-00195478 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00915-00195479-00195671 but change in the system is difficult +x5DFsRhEO3E-00916-00195672-00195863 there have been many many reports that +x5DFsRhEO3E-00917-00195864-00196071 have said the same sorts of things about +x5DFsRhEO3E-00918-00196072-00196359 our mental health service system +x5DFsRhEO3E-00919-00196360-00196495 and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00920-00196496-00196743 it has been difficult to enact those 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economic status +x5DFsRhEO3E-00950-00203808-00203999 without being labeled a person with +x5DFsRhEO3E-00951-00204000-00204159 mental illness +x5DFsRhEO3E-00952-00204160-00204343 and that we all value and invest in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00953-00204344-00204550 community initiatives that foster +x5DFsRhEO3E-00954-00204551-00204743 collective well-being +x5DFsRhEO3E-00955-00204744-00204903 and our nation's productivity is +x5DFsRhEO3E-00956-00204904-00205079 measured not only in terms of its +x5DFsRhEO3E-00957-00205080-00205319 economic growth but in terms of its +x5DFsRhEO3E-00958-00205319-00205598 mental wealth +x5DFsRhEO3E-00959-00205600-00205790 so the emerging opportunities +x5DFsRhEO3E-00960-00205791-00206062 particularly for our sector +x5DFsRhEO3E-00961-00206063-00206151 so +x5DFsRhEO3E-00962-00206152-00206255 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00963-00206256-00206431 one of the things that we've explored in +x5DFsRhEO3E-00964-00206432-00206823 the report is that the the absence 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+x5DFsRhEO3E-00980-00210535-00210639 but +x5DFsRhEO3E-00981-00210640-00210855 our report argues that they're actually +x5DFsRhEO3E-00982-00210856-00210934 to +x5DFsRhEO3E-00983-00210935-00211206 two continuums and they can +x5DFsRhEO3E-00984-00211207-00211415 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00985-00211416-00211655 we can respond to them in different ways +x5DFsRhEO3E-00986-00211656-00211942 uh to get positive outcomes so mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-00987-00211944-00212127 well-being state of well-being which the +x5DFsRhEO3E-00988-00212128-00212415 individual realizes his or her home +x5DFsRhEO3E-00989-00212416-00212655 abilities kind of read my own slide +x5DFsRhEO3E-00990-00212656-00212751 because +x5DFsRhEO3E-00991-00212752-00212951 pictures are in the way +x5DFsRhEO3E-00992-00212952-00213142 and can cope with the normal stresses of +x5DFsRhEO3E-00993-00213144-00213294 life can work productively and +x5DFsRhEO3E-00994-00213296-00213519 fruitfully and is able to make a +x5DFsRhEO3E-00995-00213519-00213887 contribution to his or her community +x5DFsRhEO3E-00996-00213888-00214134 community when mental wellbeing +x5DFsRhEO3E-00997-00214135-00214591 is a combination of a range of things um +x5DFsRhEO3E-00998-00214592-00214798 and it and it involves a community +x5DFsRhEO3E-00999-00214800-00215206 response um to help people flourish and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01000-00215207-00215567 work to their full potential +x5DFsRhEO3E-01001-00215567-00215871 so uh this is the two continuum model +x5DFsRhEO3E-01002-00215871-00216103 that i'm talking about so it comes from +x5DFsRhEO3E-01003-00216104-00216342 we've adapted this from uh someone by +x5DFsRhEO3E-01004-00216344-00216534 the name of corey keyes +x5DFsRhEO3E-01005-00216535-00216671 and so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01006-00216671-00216975 most of our uh mental health system is +x5DFsRhEO3E-01007-00216976-00217287 built along a mental illness continuum +x5DFsRhEO3E-01008-00217288-00217582 which is the horizontal continuum here +x5DFsRhEO3E-01009-00217583-00217910 and at any one point in in time +x5DFsRhEO3E-01010-00217911-00218342 we all probably sit along that continuum +x5DFsRhEO3E-01011-00218344-00218598 to low presence of symptoms to high +x5DFsRhEO3E-01012-00218600-00218823 presence of symptoms i think ivan was +x5DFsRhEO3E-01013-00218823-00218975 talking about the pandemic actually +x5DFsRhEO3E-01014-00218976-00219206 perhaps taking people further along +x5DFsRhEO3E-01015-00219207-00219534 towards the lower end of this continuum +x5DFsRhEO3E-01016-00219535-00219687 but we would argue there's also a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01017-00219688-00219934 continuum about well-being and it's +x5DFsRhEO3E-01018-00219935-00220175 actually different from the mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-01019-00220176-00220398 illness continuum +x5DFsRhEO3E-01020-00220400-00220510 and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01021-00220511-00220839 corey key says that in the flourishing +x5DFsRhEO3E-01022-00220840-00220919 uh +x5DFsRhEO3E-01023-00220919-00221206 quadrant there where you have 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the presence of mental illness +x5DFsRhEO3E-01039-00224511-00224687 and i think the pandemic is really +x5DFsRhEO3E-01040-00224688-00224927 highlighting this and actually taking +x5DFsRhEO3E-01041-00224928-00225191 people into +x5DFsRhEO3E-01042-00225192-00225358 you know different parts of these +x5DFsRhEO3E-01043-00225359-00225582 continuums +x5DFsRhEO3E-01044-00225583-00225894 argument of course is that the community +x5DFsRhEO3E-01045-00225896-00226094 mental health sector that not-for-profit +x5DFsRhEO3E-01046-00226096-00226391 sector has its real strength in working +x5DFsRhEO3E-01047-00226392-00226598 in the well-being space and along that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01048-00226600-00227031 well-being continuum +x5DFsRhEO3E-01049-00227032-00227110 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01050-00227111-00227358 and it does it in a range of ways from +x5DFsRhEO3E-01051-00227359-00227446 different +x5DFsRhEO3E-01052-00227448-00227679 you know well-being is not is is a range +x5DFsRhEO3E-01053-00227680-00227910 of things emotional well-being people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01054-00227911-00228103 are satisfied with the life you know +x5DFsRhEO3E-01055-00228104-00228334 they're interested in good spirits +x5DFsRhEO3E-01056-00228335-00228591 social well-being is is about +x5DFsRhEO3E-01057-00228592-00228871 um connection and contribution to your +x5DFsRhEO3E-01058-00228871-00229006 community +x5DFsRhEO3E-01059-00229007-00229151 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01060-00229152-00229367 you know a feeling a sense of belonging +x5DFsRhEO3E-01061-00229367-00229519 to that community +x5DFsRhEO3E-01062-00229519-00229742 and psychological well-being is part of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01063-00229744-00229975 that too +x5DFsRhEO3E-01064-00229976-00230231 you know ability to adapt to your +x5DFsRhEO3E-01065-00230232-00230591 environment that you can +x5DFsRhEO3E-01066-00230592-00230782 grow and develop personally seek +x5DFsRhEO3E-01067-00230783-00230982 challenge maintain positive +x5DFsRhEO3E-01068-00230983-00231239 relationships with other other people so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01069-00231240-00231439 there's a range of elements that we've +x5DFsRhEO3E-01070-00231440-00231694 outlined in the report about +x5DFsRhEO3E-01071-00231696-00232279 what contributes to to well-being +x5DFsRhEO3E-01072-00232280-00232479 and um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01073-00232480-00232687 the the final part of our report is +x5DFsRhEO3E-01074-00232688-00232910 thinking about what will it take +x5DFsRhEO3E-01075-00232911-00233015 to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01076-00233016-00233319 really change our services to to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01077-00233319-00233591 actually think about um operating in a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01078-00233592-00233791 well-being +x5DFsRhEO3E-01079-00233792-00233958 continuum +x5DFsRhEO3E-01080-00233959-00234055 and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01081-00234056-00234206 these are the elements that we've +x5DFsRhEO3E-01082-00234207-00234446 identified that they +x5DFsRhEO3E-01083-00234448-00234727 really need to be population focused +x5DFsRhEO3E-01084-00234728-00234975 um locally responsive to the needs of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01085-00234976-00235231 that community and that's +x5DFsRhEO3E-01086-00235232-00235375 nowhere more important than in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01087-00235376-00235567 queensland when we have such diversity +x5DFsRhEO3E-01088-00235567-00235727 of communities +x5DFsRhEO3E-01089-00235728-00235934 um they need a direct entry point +x5DFsRhEO3E-01090-00235935-00236151 without medical intervention +x5DFsRhEO3E-01091-00236152-00236310 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01092-00236311-00236431 you know i might be saying that to the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01093-00236432-00236694 wrong audience here but but in fact not +x5DFsRhEO3E-01094-00236696-00236919 all distress does need a medical +x5DFsRhEO3E-01095-00236919-00237215 uh a medical response and at the moment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01096-00237216-00237471 most of our systems are designed to take +x5DFsRhEO3E-01097-00237471-00237679 you through that pathway +x5DFsRhEO3E-01098-00237680-00237879 um a well-being service would have a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01099-00237880-00238082 strong customer service +x5DFsRhEO3E-01100-00238083-00238319 philosophy uh and relevant to people's +x5DFsRhEO3E-01101-00238319-00238455 needs so it's actually meeting the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01102-00238456-00238694 person where they are and responding to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01103-00238696-00238942 the needs that are in front of them +x5DFsRhEO3E-01104-00238944-00239119 the programs that they offer foster +x5DFsRhEO3E-01105-00239119-00239327 wellbeing and they do it early in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01106-00239328-00239534 people's distress so that they can build +x5DFsRhEO3E-01107-00239535-00239831 the skills that they need to to to stop +x5DFsRhEO3E-01108-00239832-00239910 their +x5DFsRhEO3E-01109-00239911-00240119 um their health languishing into +x5DFsRhEO3E-01110-00240119-00240294 something more serious +x5DFsRhEO3E-01111-00240296-00240534 um they take a coaching approach +x5DFsRhEO3E-01112-00240535-00240758 so they're not there to do the doing but +x5DFsRhEO3E-01113-00240759-00241071 there to assist the person to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01114-00241071-00241230 develop the skills and do the doing +x5DFsRhEO3E-01115-00241231-00241391 themselves +x5DFsRhEO3E-01116-00241392-00241542 and they're personal ed not +x5DFsRhEO3E-01117-00241544-00241855 person-centric +x5DFsRhEO3E-01118-00241856-00242119 and they specialize in linking people to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01119-00242119-00242455 naturally occurring community resources +x5DFsRhEO3E-01120-00242456-00242806 and use technology where appropriate +x5DFsRhEO3E-01121-00242807-00243055 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01122-00243056-00243279 and that's that's probably my time i +x5DFsRhEO3E-01123-00243280-00243446 could say say a lot more but i would +x5DFsRhEO3E-01124-00243448-00243606 encourage you to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01125-00243607-00243910 read the report and i'm you know i'd be +x5DFsRhEO3E-01126-00243911-00244015 happy to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01127-00244016-00244182 come and have a conversation whoever +x5DFsRhEO3E-01128-00244183-00244423 wants to be part of this conversation +x5DFsRhEO3E-01129-00244423-00244894 with us as we take it around the state +x5DFsRhEO3E-01130-00244896-00245110 thanks jennifer and can people download +x5DFsRhEO3E-01131-00245111-00245334 the report from your website did you +x5DFsRhEO3E-01132-00245335-00245471 yeah yeah +x5DFsRhEO3E-01133-00245471-00245742 okay fantastic i'm sure um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01134-00245744-00245927 people will we might just pop your web +x5DFsRhEO3E-01135-00245928-00246079 address um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01136-00246080-00246230 martina i'll get you to pop the web +x5DFsRhEO3E-01137-00246231-00246398 address in the chat function there so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01138-00246400-00246519 people want to go and have a look at +x5DFsRhEO3E-01139-00246519-00246775 that um they certainly can look i can +x5DFsRhEO3E-01140-00246776-00246967 send you a direct link to the report +x5DFsRhEO3E-01141-00246967-00247142 because it might be a bit complicated to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01142-00247144-00247303 find amongst all the other things so i +x5DFsRhEO3E-01143-00247304-00247463 can do that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01144-00247464-00247663 before and a few people have been asking +x5DFsRhEO3E-01145-00247664-00247879 will we send the there'll be a recording +x5DFsRhEO3E-01146-00247880-00248039 of the presentation here today and we'll +x5DFsRhEO3E-01147-00248040-00248279 have that up on our website as well so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01148-00248280-00248479 quite a few people want to send +x5DFsRhEO3E-01149-00248480-00248758 this presentation or this webinar to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01150-00248759-00248927 their colleagues so i will have that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01151-00248928-00249142 available for people are there aren't +x5DFsRhEO3E-01152-00249144-00249463 any questions uh in the panel there in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01153-00249464-00249591 the chat panel +x5DFsRhEO3E-01154-00249592-00249767 um but yeah thank you so much i really +x5DFsRhEO3E-01155-00249767-00250046 like the quote there um jennifer the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01156-00250048-00250287 absence of mental health is as bad as +x5DFsRhEO3E-01157-00250288-00250471 the presence of mental illness i think +x5DFsRhEO3E-01158-00250471-00250719 it's just a really nice way or a clear +x5DFsRhEO3E-01159-00250719-00250951 way of thinking about things and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01160-00250952-00251151 certainly the quadrant was um something +x5DFsRhEO3E-01161-00251152-00251375 i hadn't seen before so um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01162-00251376-00251558 thank you so much for for the work +x5DFsRhEO3E-01163-00251559-00251719 involved in pulling that together and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01164-00251719-00251927 i'm sure it'll be an excellent resource +x5DFsRhEO3E-01165-00251928-00252079 for people right around not just +x5DFsRhEO3E-01166-00252080-00252351 queensland i guess um around australia +x5DFsRhEO3E-01167-00252352-00252542 so thank you and you're able to to stay +x5DFsRhEO3E-01168-00252544-00252855 with us yeah sure okay +x5DFsRhEO3E-01169-00252856-00253071 fantastic if you could just um stop +x5DFsRhEO3E-01170-00253071-00253271 sharing your screen we'll then move on +x5DFsRhEO3E-01171-00253271-00253482 to our next +x5DFsRhEO3E-01172-00253483-00253894 speaker and our next speaker is uh joe +x5DFsRhEO3E-01173-00253896-00254198 graslinska from larter consulting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01174-00254200-00254671 um i think joe's in was it day 210 +x5DFsRhEO3E-01175-00254671-00254942 joe of lockdown in victoria not that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01176-00254944-00255167 we're counting but approximately not the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01177-00255167-00255430 accounting at all but um so thank you so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01178-00255431-00255719 much for for joining us today uh joe is +x5DFsRhEO3E-01179-00255719-00255903 a social researcher and a public health +x5DFsRhEO3E-01180-00255904-00256134 professional who specializes in system +x5DFsRhEO3E-01181-00256135-00256415 refer reform service design and practice +x5DFsRhEO3E-01182-00256416-00256639 improvement she works predominantly in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01183-00256640-00256942 the primary mental health care system +x5DFsRhEO3E-01184-00256944-00257158 working with phns general practice and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01185-00257159-00257406 community based services she's got a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01186-00257407-00257567 particular interest in improving access +x5DFsRhEO3E-01187-00257567-00257782 to care and outcomes for vulnerable +x5DFsRhEO3E-01188-00257783-00257998 populations and works with consumers and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01189-00258000-00258191 people with lived experience using +x5DFsRhEO3E-01190-00258192-00258391 co-design approaches and joe you've +x5DFsRhEO3E-01191-00258392-00258630 presented another topic um we've had +x5DFsRhEO3E-01192-00258631-00258798 previously i think that was on the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01193-00258800-00259046 social prescribing +x5DFsRhEO3E-01194-00259048-00259279 theme that we had late last year but +x5DFsRhEO3E-01195-00259280-00259455 great to have you along today have you +x5DFsRhEO3E-01196-00259456-00259655 got a presentation you're going to share +x5DFsRhEO3E-01197-00259656-00259894 i do i'll share my screen now please let +x5DFsRhEO3E-01198-00259896-00260046 me know +x5DFsRhEO3E-01199-00260048-00260558 once you can see that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01200-00260559-00260806 yep that's perfect joe thank you over to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01201-00260807-00260919 you +x5DFsRhEO3E-01202-00260919-00261167 great fantastic thanks david +x5DFsRhEO3E-01203-00261167-00261375 um and thank you for having me here +x5DFsRhEO3E-01204-00261376-00261606 today and great to see um so many people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01205-00261607-00261727 in the room +x5DFsRhEO3E-01206-00261728-00261894 i will begin by acknowledging the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01207-00261896-00262087 traditional custodians of the land upon +x5DFsRhEO3E-01208-00262088-00262271 which i am today which is the word +x5DFsRhEO3E-01209-00262272-00262430 injury people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01210-00262431-00262599 and of course extend my respects to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01211-00262600-00262958 elders past present and emerging +x5DFsRhEO3E-01212-00262959-00263127 so following on from the previous two +x5DFsRhEO3E-01213-00263128-00263503 presentations from ivan and jennifer +x5DFsRhEO3E-01214-00263504-00263751 i really wanted to draw our attention to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01215-00263752-00263991 mental health presentations in a general +x5DFsRhEO3E-01216-00263992-00264167 practice setting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01217-00264168-00264351 and more specifically through the lens +x5DFsRhEO3E-01218-00264352-00264639 of suicide prevention +x5DFsRhEO3E-01219-00264640-00264806 now i will be talking about suicide for +x5DFsRhEO3E-01220-00264807-00265079 the next 10 or so minutes um so i +x5DFsRhEO3E-01221-00265080-00265239 encourage self-care for anyone who might +x5DFsRhEO3E-01222-00265240-00265415 need to take a break +x5DFsRhEO3E-01223-00265416-00265758 during this presentation to do so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01224-00265759-00265943 so what do we know about the way that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01225-00265944-00266095 general practice and primary care +x5DFsRhEO3E-01226-00266096-00266310 settings respond to mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-01227-00266311-00266463 concerns +x5DFsRhEO3E-01228-00266464-00266630 i really wanted to share some +x5DFsRhEO3E-01229-00266631-00266871 perspectives that we've gained from some +x5DFsRhEO3E-01230-00266872-00267087 of the work that we've done recently +x5DFsRhEO3E-01231-00267088-00267310 perspectives from gps from nurses from +x5DFsRhEO3E-01232-00267311-00267510 practice management staff +x5DFsRhEO3E-01233-00267511-00267655 and from consumer and patient +x5DFsRhEO3E-01234-00267656-00267910 perspectives as well +x5DFsRhEO3E-01235-00267911-00268127 i wanted to draw our attention +x5DFsRhEO3E-01236-00268128-00268271 to some of the opportunities which +x5DFsRhEO3E-01237-00268272-00268519 remain to build capacity +x5DFsRhEO3E-01238-00268520-00268663 in the system +x5DFsRhEO3E-01239-00268664-00268895 and to build and to respond better to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01240-00268896-00269143 mental health concerns +x5DFsRhEO3E-01241-00269144-00269399 to identify opportunities for earlier +x5DFsRhEO3E-01242-00269400-00269630 intervention +x5DFsRhEO3E-01243-00269631-00269863 to keep getting better at identifying +x5DFsRhEO3E-01244-00269864-00270110 people at risk +x5DFsRhEO3E-01245-00270111-00270351 and to provide mental health care in a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01246-00270352-00271015 way that meets patient expectations +x5DFsRhEO3E-01247-00271016-00271230 now my presentation hasn't jumped to the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01248-00271231-00271471 next slide david can you let me know if +x5DFsRhEO3E-01249-00271472-00271655 you can see a second slide i might just +x5DFsRhEO3E-01250-00271656-00271919 give it another moment or so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01251-00271920-00272103 um i did want to begin by just sharing a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01252-00272104-00272327 couple of key statistics which probably +x5DFsRhEO3E-01253-00272328-00272527 aren't unfamiliar to many people in the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01254-00272528-00272758 room +x5DFsRhEO3E-01255-00272759-00272982 we know that gps are the first +x5DFsRhEO3E-01256-00272983-00273158 professional contact in over seventy +x5DFsRhEO3E-01257-00273159-00273358 percent of mental health cases across +x5DFsRhEO3E-01258-00273359-00273663 the country +x5DFsRhEO3E-01259-00273664-00273879 we also know that sixty five percent of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01260-00273880-00274263 gps identify psychological issues in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01261-00274264-00274415 their top three most common +x5DFsRhEO3E-01262-00274416-00274919 presentations on a daily basis +x5DFsRhEO3E-01263-00274920-00275230 when we look at suicide data itself +x5DFsRhEO3E-01264-00275231-00275519 and we look at suicide deaths +x5DFsRhEO3E-01265-00275520-00275799 we know that up to 45 percent of people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01266-00275800-00275951 who have died +x5DFsRhEO3E-01267-00275952-00276215 in fact presented to their gp in the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01268-00276216-00276582 four weeks ahead of their death +x5DFsRhEO3E-01269-00276583-00276863 and in the we and up to 20 up to 20 of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01270-00276864-00277023 the deaths in australia +x5DFsRhEO3E-01271-00277024-00277327 um have seen their gp in the week before +x5DFsRhEO3E-01272-00277328-00277519 their death +x5DFsRhEO3E-01273-00277520-00277695 what we don't necessarily know is the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01274-00277696-00277879 content of those conversations in those +x5DFsRhEO3E-01275-00277880-00278095 presentations and to what extent +x5DFsRhEO3E-01276-00278096-00278303 suicide risk and suicide ideation might +x5DFsRhEO3E-01277-00278304-00278895 have been disclosed at those sessions +x5DFsRhEO3E-01278-00278896-00279079 uh joe it's just david here we're still +x5DFsRhEO3E-01279-00279080-00279382 on the title slide so um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01280-00279383-00279575 i'm wondering if i could stop sharing +x5DFsRhEO3E-01281-00279576-00279782 and ask perhaps martina in the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01282-00279783-00279943 background to pull up the presentation +x5DFsRhEO3E-01283-00279944-00280134 martina's got that so yeah let's do that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01284-00280135-00280382 so if you can hit stop share martina +x5DFsRhEO3E-01285-00280383-00280806 you've got that um ready to go +x5DFsRhEO3E-01286-00280807-00280903 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01287-00280904-00281167 yeah we'll pull that up now sorry joe +x5DFsRhEO3E-01288-00281168-00281319 that's all right not a problem you can +x5DFsRhEO3E-01289-00281320-00281487 um i think it's slide two that we want +x5DFsRhEO3E-01290-00281488-00281641 to be on +x5DFsRhEO3E-01291-00281642-00281967 [Music] +x5DFsRhEO3E-01292-00281968-00282127 so again um when we look at the actual +x5DFsRhEO3E-01293-00282128-00282423 suicide death data in australia +x5DFsRhEO3E-01294-00282424-00282639 we know that approximately 50 of people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01295-00282640-00282743 who die +x5DFsRhEO3E-01296-00282744-00282958 do in fact or did in fact have a mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-01297-00282959-00283247 health diagnosis +x5DFsRhEO3E-01298-00283248-00283430 and then finally when we look at the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01299-00283431-00283695 evidence based for what works in suicide +x5DFsRhEO3E-01300-00283696-00283919 prevention internationally +x5DFsRhEO3E-01301-00283920-00284127 we know that interventions in primary +x5DFsRhEO3E-01302-00284128-00284287 care settings in general practice +x5DFsRhEO3E-01303-00284288-00284519 settings in fact afford some of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01304-00284520-00284703 highest impact opportunities that we +x5DFsRhEO3E-01305-00284704-00284934 know of from an intervention perspective +x5DFsRhEO3E-01306-00284935-00285087 so building capacity for general +x5DFsRhEO3E-01307-00285088-00285287 practice to respond +x5DFsRhEO3E-01308-00285288-00285551 shows some of the biggest impact in um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01309-00285552-00285967 in suicide attempts and suicide deaths +x5DFsRhEO3E-01310-00285968-00286127 so at our end is an organization that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01311-00286128-00286406 works um specifically in primary care +x5DFsRhEO3E-01312-00286407-00286551 and we were really keen to i guess +x5DFsRhEO3E-01313-00286552-00286710 explore what the opportunities might be +x5DFsRhEO3E-01314-00286711-00286943 to build that capacity +x5DFsRhEO3E-01315-00286944-00287199 and we worked with a regional and rural +x5DFsRhEO3E-01316-00287200-00287471 primary health network here in victoria +x5DFsRhEO3E-01317-00287472-00287687 to explore some of the issues and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01318-00287688-00288319 identify some of the ways to respond +x5DFsRhEO3E-01319-00288320-00288447 now hopefully you'll have a slide that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01320-00288448-00288639 comes up in a moment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01321-00288640-00288767 but what we did during the course of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01322-00288768-00288903 2020 +x5DFsRhEO3E-01323-00288904-00289087 we worked across six local government +x5DFsRhEO3E-01324-00289088-00289199 areas +x5DFsRhEO3E-01325-00289200-00289406 and we spoke to gps across a number of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01326-00289407-00289647 different general practice settings +x5DFsRhEO3E-01327-00289648-00290006 we spoke to 55 gps across 45 different +x5DFsRhEO3E-01328-00290007-00290182 general practices +x5DFsRhEO3E-01329-00290183-00290391 and those settings included +x5DFsRhEO3E-01330-00290392-00290551 sole practitioners +x5DFsRhEO3E-01331-00290552-00290782 corporate multi-site settings +x5DFsRhEO3E-01332-00290783-00291006 bulk billing only practices +x5DFsRhEO3E-01333-00291007-00291199 achos +x5DFsRhEO3E-01334-00291200-00291391 headspace centers drug and alcohol +x5DFsRhEO3E-01335-00291392-00291654 clinics university clinics a really good +x5DFsRhEO3E-01336-00291655-00291919 diverse range +x5DFsRhEO3E-01337-00291920-00292143 we also spoke to nurses +x5DFsRhEO3E-01338-00292144-00292647 and practice managers and practice staff +x5DFsRhEO3E-01339-00292648-00292982 great thank you slide four would be good +x5DFsRhEO3E-01340-00292983-00293158 another key component of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01341-00293159-00293327 perspectives that we collected was from 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what did we learn +x5DFsRhEO3E-01357-00296976-00297134 and i'm really keen i guess to emphasize +x5DFsRhEO3E-01358-00297135-00297391 that today i'm just speaking to a slice +x5DFsRhEO3E-01359-00297392-00297647 of the findings um and happy for anyone +x5DFsRhEO3E-01360-00297648-00297782 to reach out afterwards who wants to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01361-00297783-00297895 learn a little bit more about some of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01362-00297896-00298103 the perspectives +x5DFsRhEO3E-01363-00298104-00298351 but in our conversations with gps we can +x5DFsRhEO3E-01364-00298352-00298582 speak to at least three broad groups of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01365-00298583-00298782 doctors in relation to the way that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01366-00298783-00299047 suicidal risk was managed +x5DFsRhEO3E-01367-00299048-00299303 the first group are gps who are very +x5DFsRhEO3E-01368-00299304-00299534 confident and comfortable in supporting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01369-00299535-00299775 mental health concerns and supporting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01370-00299776-00300095 suicidal risk +x5DFsRhEO3E-01371-00300096-00300327 the second broad group was gps who have +x5DFsRhEO3E-01372-00300328-00300558 a stable patient list or even closed +x5DFsRhEO3E-01373-00300559-00300647 books +x5DFsRhEO3E-01374-00300648-00300847 and who have really long term ongoing +x5DFsRhEO3E-01375-00300848-00301015 relationships with their patients and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01376-00301016-00301230 feel really confident in being able to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01377-00301231-00301479 identify any deterioration or changes to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01378-00301480-00301839 their patients welfare +x5DFsRhEO3E-01379-00301840-00302047 and that third group of gps is a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01380-00302048-00302247 relatively loose group +x5DFsRhEO3E-01381-00302248-00302558 but it's gps who spoke to us about +x5DFsRhEO3E-01382-00302559-00302830 tendencies or times where they avoid +x5DFsRhEO3E-01383-00302831-00303047 asking questions of patients +x5DFsRhEO3E-01384-00303048-00303287 questions that may in fact elicit a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01385-00303288-00303575 disclosure of psychological distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-01386-00303576-00304015 and i'll get to that in a moment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01387-00304016-00304295 we heard that many gps feel very alone +x5DFsRhEO3E-01388-00304296-00304591 and very isolated in their support of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01389-00304592-00304847 patients at risk of suicide +x5DFsRhEO3E-01390-00304848-00305063 we know obviously the gps prefer to work +x5DFsRhEO3E-01391-00305064-00305279 in teams and are comfortable when they +x5DFsRhEO3E-01392-00305280-00305543 work to the limits of clinical risk +x5DFsRhEO3E-01393-00305544-00305710 and many of them are currently feeling +x5DFsRhEO3E-01394-00305711-00305871 very unsupported +x5DFsRhEO3E-01395-00305872-00306143 without timely access or in fact even +x5DFsRhEO3E-01396-00306144-00306295 access at all +x5DFsRhEO3E-01397-00306296-00306543 to acute mental health services in a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01398-00306544-00306758 public system that's over stretched and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01399-00306759-00307054 stretched beyond capacity +x5DFsRhEO3E-01400-00307055-00307247 without access to public or private +x5DFsRhEO3E-01401-00307248-00307391 psychiatry +x5DFsRhEO3E-01402-00307392-00307727 or psychiatric liaison to draw on +x5DFsRhEO3E-01403-00307728-00307863 and without timely access to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01404-00307864-00308063 psychological therapies where in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01405-00308064-00308279 victoria at least many of the gps have a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01406-00308280-00308519 six to eight week waiting list for their +x5DFsRhEO3E-01407-00308520-00308823 patients +x5DFsRhEO3E-01408-00308824-00308991 second to that we also heard from many +x5DFsRhEO3E-01409-00308992-00309239 gps that when they think about suicidal +x5DFsRhEO3E-01410-00309240-00309534 risk and patients at risk of suicide +x5DFsRhEO3E-01411-00309535-00309703 they tend to focus on the patients who +x5DFsRhEO3E-01412-00309704-00309919 already have a mental health diagnosis +x5DFsRhEO3E-01413-00309920-00310054 who they know fairly well through that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01414-00310055-00310254 diagnosis and who come to them +x5DFsRhEO3E-01415-00310255-00310503 expressing that suicidal those suicidal +x5DFsRhEO3E-01416-00310504-00310687 thoughts +x5DFsRhEO3E-01417-00310688-00310871 many of the gps we spoke to found it +x5DFsRhEO3E-01418-00310872-00311143 harder to comment on patients +x5DFsRhEO3E-01419-00311144-00311430 who experience psychological distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-01420-00311431-00311647 without disclosing that distress to the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01421-00311648-00311815 gp +x5DFsRhEO3E-01422-00311816-00312039 and so we found that there are gaps in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01423-00312040-00312271 earlier identification of risk +x5DFsRhEO3E-01424-00312272-00312510 and gaps in the use of screening and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01425-00312511-00312734 risk assessment tools +x5DFsRhEO3E-01426-00312735-00312967 and unfortunately among the 55 gps we +x5DFsRhEO3E-01427-00312968-00313151 spoke to we didn't meet many who had +x5DFsRhEO3E-01428-00313152-00313319 actually undertaken any kind of suicide +x5DFsRhEO3E-01429-00313320-00313479 prevention training +x5DFsRhEO3E-01430-00313480-00313671 with the exception of registrars and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01431-00313672-00313943 early career gps who tended quite often +x5DFsRhEO3E-01432-00313944-00314071 to be in that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01433-00314072-00314303 very mental health confident and capable +x5DFsRhEO3E-01434-00314304-00314527 group +x5DFsRhEO3E-01435-00314528-00314734 many gps told us that they rely on the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01436-00314735-00314958 familiarity with their patients +x5DFsRhEO3E-01437-00314959-00315382 in order to inform their risk assessment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01438-00315383-00315575 so we know that providing mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-01439-00315576-00315839 support is challenging in a system +x5DFsRhEO3E-01440-00315840-00315991 that doesn't necessarily function +x5DFsRhEO3E-01441-00315992-00316206 effectively or cohesively +x5DFsRhEO3E-01442-00316207-00316479 and for many gps mental health care can +x5DFsRhEO3E-01443-00316480-00316695 be difficult compared to supporting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01444-00316696-00316847 other medical conditions such as +x5DFsRhEO3E-01445-00316848-00317095 diabetes such as cardiac issues which +x5DFsRhEO3E-01446-00317096-00317247 have much more straightforward and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01447-00317248-00317479 functioning risk assessments have timely +x5DFsRhEO3E-01448-00317480-00317639 referral pathways +x5DFsRhEO3E-01449-00317640-00317799 and good access to the necessary +x5DFsRhEO3E-01450-00317800-00318206 specialist care required +x5DFsRhEO3E-01451-00318207-00318510 now if we can jump to the next slide +x5DFsRhEO3E-01452-00318511-00318695 coming back to this issue of this group +x5DFsRhEO3E-01453-00318696-00318999 of gps or the tendency for gps who +x5DFsRhEO3E-01454-00319000-00319191 aren't necessarily confident +x5DFsRhEO3E-01455-00319192-00319447 to avoid asking questions of a patient +x5DFsRhEO3E-01456-00319448-00319630 which might lead to disclosure of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01457-00319631-00319879 distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-01458-00319880-00320087 we heard quite frequently from gps about +x5DFsRhEO3E-01459-00320088-00320351 this idea of appointment blowout +x5DFsRhEO3E-01460-00320352-00320519 and the idea that within a 15-minute +x5DFsRhEO3E-01461-00320520-00320671 appointment setting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01462-00320672-00320823 asking questions that might lead a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01463-00320824-00321006 patient to talk about their relationship +x5DFsRhEO3E-01464-00321007-00321182 issues or their unemployment or their +x5DFsRhEO3E-01465-00321183-00321319 drug and alcohol issues or their +x5DFsRhEO3E-01466-00321320-00321439 bereavement +x5DFsRhEO3E-01467-00321440-00321630 risks risk the chance of that time with +x5DFsRhEO3E-01468-00321631-00321806 the patient blowing out to perhaps up to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01469-00321807-00322063 45 minutes up to an hour which obviously +x5DFsRhEO3E-01470-00322064-00322287 places additional pressures um on the gp +x5DFsRhEO3E-01471-00322288-00322415 in that moment and for the rest of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01472-00322416-00322582 day +x5DFsRhEO3E-01473-00322583-00322847 the flip side of that was also um should +x5DFsRhEO3E-01474-00322848-00323199 distress be identified many gps who have +x5DFsRhEO3E-01475-00323200-00323367 quite full up appointment books who may +x5DFsRhEO3E-01476-00323368-00323503 not have another appointment available +x5DFsRhEO3E-01477-00323504-00323647 for three or four weeks +x5DFsRhEO3E-01478-00323648-00323830 felt uncomfortable with not being able +x5DFsRhEO3E-01479-00323831-00324263 to provide the necessary follow-up care +x5DFsRhEO3E-01480-00324264-00324534 the earning capacity from supporting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01481-00324535-00324799 mental health care in general practice +x5DFsRhEO3E-01482-00324800-00325119 was an issue that was raised repeatedly +x5DFsRhEO3E-01483-00325120-00325358 and sadly for some gps +x5DFsRhEO3E-01484-00325359-00325551 the ability to again that appointment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01485-00325552-00325751 blow out within the moment and then the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01486-00325752-00325879 effect that it has on some of the other +x5DFsRhEO3E-01487-00325880-00326095 patients throughput is a factor for some +x5DFsRhEO3E-01488-00326096-00326415 gps in some general practice settings +x5DFsRhEO3E-01489-00326416-00326615 and some of the emotional fatigue and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01490-00326616-00326839 overwhelm that can come from supporting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01491-00326840-00327087 mental health care patients on a regular +x5DFsRhEO3E-01492-00327088-00327303 basis becoming known as the go-to gp +x5DFsRhEO3E-01493-00327304-00327479 within a practice to support mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-01494-00327480-00327630 illness +x5DFsRhEO3E-01495-00327631-00327863 some of that emotional fatigue um around +x5DFsRhEO3E-01496-00327864-00328071 the heartsync patients for example um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01497-00328072-00328254 you know really +x5DFsRhEO3E-01498-00328255-00328471 sits uncomfortably with gps who don't +x5DFsRhEO3E-01499-00328472-00328687 necessarily have the support within +x5DFsRhEO3E-01500-00328688-00328854 their general practice or peer support +x5DFsRhEO3E-01501-00328855-00329110 or debriefing available to them um to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01502-00329111-00329415 get them through that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01503-00329416-00329599 we also heard some of the barriers from +x5DFsRhEO3E-01504-00329600-00329854 gps around having no one to share care +x5DFsRhEO3E-01505-00329855-00330054 with so the patients the care of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01506-00330055-00330295 patients with mental health issues and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01507-00330296-00330551 no one to hand over to in the crisis +x5DFsRhEO3E-01508-00330552-00330823 so with the stretched public um health +x5DFsRhEO3E-01509-00330824-00331023 public mental health system +x5DFsRhEO3E-01510-00331024-00331254 and particularly anything after 5 pm the 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+x5DFsRhEO3E-01525-00334368-00334527 experiences of trauma +x5DFsRhEO3E-01526-00334528-00334710 and obviously we've touched on the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01527-00334711-00334934 burden from covert and the surge in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01528-00334935-00335127 uptick in presentations for the last 18 +x5DFsRhEO3E-01529-00335128-00335327 months and we heard about farmers as a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01530-00335328-00335582 risk category as well +x5DFsRhEO3E-01531-00335583-00335734 in our orange and blue boxes at the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01532-00335735-00335967 bottom what we didn't hear +x5DFsRhEO3E-01533-00335968-00336103 as much about +x5DFsRhEO3E-01534-00336104-00336358 from gps was patients who experience +x5DFsRhEO3E-01535-00336359-00336575 barriers to disclosing psychological +x5DFsRhEO3E-01536-00336576-00336758 distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-01537-00336759-00336967 and that might be patients such as men +x5DFsRhEO3E-01538-00336968-00337263 as a general category young people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01539-00337264-00337591 lgbti community members carers young +x5DFsRhEO3E-01540-00337592-00337839 parents elderly people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01541-00337840-00338030 anyone for whom the gp might actually +x5DFsRhEO3E-01542-00338031-00338151 need to be able to initiate a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01543-00338152-00338327 conversation rather than presenting with +x5DFsRhEO3E-01544-00338328-00338567 the distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-01545-00338568-00338743 we also didn't hear much and i guess +x5DFsRhEO3E-01546-00338744-00338943 exploring that men as a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01547-00338944-00339134 you know as representing 80 percent of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01548-00339135-00339358 the statistics around death +x5DFsRhEO3E-01549-00339359-00339654 men as a broad at-risk category um and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01550-00339655-00339775 particularly men who might be +x5DFsRhEO3E-01551-00339776-00339991 experiencing a cluster of risk factors +x5DFsRhEO3E-01552-00339992-00340199 around relationship breakdown uh child +x5DFsRhEO3E-01553-00340200-00340399 custody disputes unemployment drug and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01554-00340400-00340591 alcohol issues +x5DFsRhEO3E-01555-00340592-00340782 we explored this issue of how confidence +x5DFsRhEO3E-01556-00340783-00340991 gps felt in engaging some of those men +x5DFsRhEO3E-01557-00340992-00341143 and overcoming some of the barriers to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01558-00341144-00341351 disclosure +x5DFsRhEO3E-01559-00341352-00341567 but we definitely didn't hear these men +x5DFsRhEO3E-01560-00341568-00341758 and these risk factors discussed +x5DFsRhEO3E-01561-00341759-00341934 assertively by gps is something that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01562-00341935-00342351 they were very familiar with +x5DFsRhEO3E-01563-00342352-00342510 and i we probably don't have time to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01564-00342511-00342639 touch on this and this is probably a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01565-00342640-00342847 whole separate presentation but when we +x5DFsRhEO3E-01566-00342848-00342982 reached out to people with lived +x5DFsRhEO3E-01567-00342983-00343143 experience some of the key issues that 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+x5DFsRhEO3E-01596-00349024-00349199 be immediately referred out of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01597-00349200-00349406 practice for those patients you know +x5DFsRhEO3E-01598-00349407-00349567 many patients spoke to us about wanting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01599-00349568-00349758 or having a medical home and wanting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01600-00349759-00349903 their mouth their mental health care +x5DFsRhEO3E-01601-00349904-00350127 needs and their suicidal ideation +x5DFsRhEO3E-01602-00350128-00350287 particularly for chronic for people who +x5DFsRhEO3E-01603-00350288-00350478 experienced chronic ideation they wanted +x5DFsRhEO3E-01604-00350479-00350647 that to be kept within house within the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01605-00350648-00350934 general practice setting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01606-00350935-00351095 we also heard about some general +x5DFsRhEO3E-01607-00351096-00351239 practice settings that might be high +x5DFsRhEO3E-01608-00351240-00351430 turnover or bulk billing settings that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01609-00351431-00351654 kind of churn and burn approach where +x5DFsRhEO3E-01610-00351655-00351734 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01611-00351735-00351919 quite often driven by a medication first +x5DFsRhEO3E-01612-00351920-00352151 approach and really a reluctance by +x5DFsRhEO3E-01613-00352152-00352319 clinicians to actually build an ongoing +x5DFsRhEO3E-01614-00352320-00352543 relationship and to listen adequately to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01615-00352544-00352767 the person in distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-01616-00352768-00352951 and also acknowledgement that for people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01617-00352952-00353103 who need who might need an appointment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01618-00353104-00353415 with a gp more urgently um you know +x5DFsRhEO3E-01619-00353416-00353615 reception staff doing their general +x5DFsRhEO3E-01620-00353616-00353815 reception work on a day-to-day basis +x5DFsRhEO3E-01621-00353816-00353999 might in fact inadvertently act as a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01622-00354000-00354206 gatekeeper to accessing an appointment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01623-00354207-00354343 that might be a little bit more urgent +x5DFsRhEO3E-01624-00354344-00354839 because of a crisis situation +x5DFsRhEO3E-01625-00354840-00354934 so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01626-00354935-00355078 in terms of opportunities to build +x5DFsRhEO3E-01627-00355079-00355278 capacity +x5DFsRhEO3E-01628-00355279-00355543 is absolutely an opportunity to identify +x5DFsRhEO3E-01629-00355544-00355647 risk +x5DFsRhEO3E-01630-00355648-00356271 more frequently and identify it earlier +x5DFsRhEO3E-01631-00356272-00356503 there's also an opportunity for gps who +x5DFsRhEO3E-01632-00356504-00356751 are more confident and capable to sit +x5DFsRhEO3E-01633-00356752-00356951 alongside more clinical risk in a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01634-00356952-00357215 primary care setting and to develop some +x5DFsRhEO3E-01635-00357216-00357399 treatment skills for those gps in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01636-00357400-00357582 contemporary approaches for working +x5DFsRhEO3E-01637-00357583-00357710 alongside +x5DFsRhEO3E-01638-00357711-00357967 suicidality +x5DFsRhEO3E-01639-00357968-00358103 and we absolutely identified some +x5DFsRhEO3E-01640-00358104-00358423 opportunities to build core competencies +x5DFsRhEO3E-01641-00358424-00358703 to respond to specific um community +x5DFsRhEO3E-01642-00358704-00358878 groups and groups that are more +x5DFsRhEO3E-01643-00358879-00359063 vulnerable to suicide or those that are +x5DFsRhEO3E-01644-00359064-00359223 more vulnerable to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01645-00359224-00359423 having barriers to disclose their +x5DFsRhEO3E-01646-00359424-00360054 symptoms in a general practice setting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01647-00360055-00360206 so i've just i've got a snapshot here +x5DFsRhEO3E-01648-00360207-00360423 for some of the key um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01649-00360424-00360615 supports that we've recommended to this +x5DFsRhEO3E-01650-00360616-00360887 primary health network in particular +x5DFsRhEO3E-01651-00360888-00361191 in order to provide some more holistic +x5DFsRhEO3E-01652-00361192-00361399 supports and build capacity for gps and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01653-00361400-00361575 nurses +x5DFsRhEO3E-01654-00361576-00361775 we've had a lot of requests particularly +x5DFsRhEO3E-01655-00361776-00361910 down here in victoria in some of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01656-00361911-00362167 rural and regional areas to have really +x5DFsRhEO3E-01657-00362168-00362343 up-to-date and current +x5DFsRhEO3E-01658-00362344-00362615 referral lists for providers who of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01659-00362616-00362847 psychological therapies so lists that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01660-00362848-00363054 include waiting times and lists that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01661-00363055-00363287 specifically um include specializations +x5DFsRhEO3E-01662-00363288-00363454 and what's in and out of scope +x5DFsRhEO3E-01663-00363455-00363751 um and one of the issues that came up um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01664-00363752-00363871 responding to what i haven't mentioned +x5DFsRhEO3E-01665-00363872-00364063 before was that idea of eating disorders +x5DFsRhEO3E-01666-00364064-00364375 when that started ramping up during 2020 +x5DFsRhEO3E-01667-00364376-00364551 psychologists who support and who are +x5DFsRhEO3E-01668-00364552-00364719 comfortable supporting eating disorders +x5DFsRhEO3E-01669-00364720-00364871 started closing their books very quickly +x5DFsRhEO3E-01670-00364872-00365110 during 2020 and we had gps left with +x5DFsRhEO3E-01671-00365111-00365454 nowhere to refer their patients to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01672-00365455-00365630 that issue of having access to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01673-00365631-00366054 psychiatric liaison is really critical +x5DFsRhEO3E-01674-00366055-00366199 also when we spoke about earlier +x5DFsRhEO3E-01675-00366200-00366430 intervention to gps many identified that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01676-00366431-00366630 they didn't in fact have any pathways +x5DFsRhEO3E-01677-00366631-00366830 for earlier intervention +x5DFsRhEO3E-01678-00366831-00367047 and the health pathways tools that's +x5DFsRhEO3E-01679-00367048-00367239 that are really common in victoria the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01680-00367240-00367503 online clinical tools for gps +x5DFsRhEO3E-01681-00367504-00367647 don't currently have any early +x5DFsRhEO3E-01682-00367648-00367830 intervention pathways so connecting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01683-00367831-00368071 through to more community-based supports +x5DFsRhEO3E-01684-00368072-00368182 and some of what jennifer was +x5DFsRhEO3E-01685-00368183-00368487 referencing in her presentation +x5DFsRhEO3E-01686-00368488-00368710 the ability as we know to have +x5DFsRhEO3E-01687-00368711-00368982 a quick guide to put above the computer +x5DFsRhEO3E-01688-00368983-00369215 in the office a risk flow chart +x5DFsRhEO3E-01689-00369216-00369382 so stepping out depending on whether +x5DFsRhEO3E-01690-00369383-00369623 someone's identified as low moderate or +x5DFsRhEO3E-01691-00369624-00369775 severe risk +x5DFsRhEO3E-01692-00369776-00369878 and a quick +x5DFsRhEO3E-01693-00369879-00370063 guide for what a gp should do in that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01694-00370064-00370254 instance +x5DFsRhEO3E-01695-00370255-00370463 and again some of those issues around gp +x5DFsRhEO3E-01696-00370464-00370767 self-care well-being and peer supports +x5DFsRhEO3E-01697-00370768-00371271 are high in the recommendations list +x5DFsRhEO3E-01698-00371272-00371534 the other key aspect of the approach is +x5DFsRhEO3E-01699-00371535-00371743 really around building competencies for +x5DFsRhEO3E-01700-00371744-00371910 both gps +x5DFsRhEO3E-01701-00371911-00372158 practice nurses and reception and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01702-00372159-00372343 administrative staff so really taking +x5DFsRhEO3E-01703-00372344-00372743 that whole of practice skills approach +x5DFsRhEO3E-01704-00372744-00372902 when we talk about universal +x5DFsRhEO3E-01705-00372903-00373199 competencies what we recommended was +x5DFsRhEO3E-01706-00373200-00373471 identifying warning signs of distress +x5DFsRhEO3E-01707-00373472-00373775 and recognizing depression +x5DFsRhEO3E-01708-00373776-00374006 skills in initiating conversation with +x5DFsRhEO3E-01709-00374007-00374215 patients who may face barriers to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01710-00374216-00374439 disclosure +x5DFsRhEO3E-01711-00374440-00374719 providing ultra brief psychological +x5DFsRhEO3E-01712-00374720-00374863 interventions +x5DFsRhEO3E-01713-00374864-00375110 so simple well-being interventions or +x5DFsRhEO3E-01714-00375111-00375343 brief counselling interventions for +x5DFsRhEO3E-01715-00375344-00375567 distress tolerance +x5DFsRhEO3E-01716-00375568-00375758 and ones that can prevent or delay +x5DFsRhEO3E-01717-00375759-00375943 escalation +x5DFsRhEO3E-01718-00375944-00376143 plus providing escalation plans for +x5DFsRhEO3E-01719-00376144-00376278 family members who are supporting +x5DFsRhEO3E-01720-00376279-00376478 someone +x5DFsRhEO3E-01721-00376479-00376782 also as part of universal competencies +x5DFsRhEO3E-01722-00376783-00376975 those issues around working with higher +x5DFsRhEO3E-01723-00376976-00377175 risk patient groups +x5DFsRhEO3E-01724-00377176-00377439 and delivering trauma-informed care +x5DFsRhEO3E-01725-00377440-00377647 contemporary cultural awareness safety +x5DFsRhEO3E-01726-00377648-00377815 and competency +x5DFsRhEO3E-01727-00377816-00378127 lgbti inclusive practice +x5DFsRhEO3E-01728-00378128-00378406 and ways to engage men +x5DFsRhEO3E-01729-00378407-00378606 in terms of some of the advanced skills +x5DFsRhEO3E-01730-00378607-00378791 and that would be for a separate +x5DFsRhEO3E-01731-00378792-00379054 interested cohort of gps that's really +x5DFsRhEO3E-01732-00379055-00379319 around collaborative safety planning +x5DFsRhEO3E-01733-00379320-00379599 a team approach to treatment planning +x5DFsRhEO3E-01734-00379600-00379782 working with families carers natural +x5DFsRhEO3E-01735-00379783-00379927 supports +x5DFsRhEO3E-01736-00379928-00380167 and also effective management after a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01737-00380168-00380415 suicide attempt +x5DFsRhEO3E-01738-00380416-00380630 and we've just got in the black there +x5DFsRhEO3E-01739-00380631-00380839 the idea that as part of this an +x5DFsRhEO3E-01740-00380840-00381102 approach to practice systems can be used +x5DFsRhEO3E-01741-00381103-00381287 so really having a look at how software +x5DFsRhEO3E-01742-00381288-00381463 systems can be used for patient +x5DFsRhEO3E-01743-00381464-00381695 identification where practice might be +x5DFsRhEO3E-01744-00381696-00381791 able to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01745-00381792-00382015 build some lists of patients +x5DFsRhEO3E-01746-00382016-00382239 subject to diagnoses +x5DFsRhEO3E-01747-00382240-00382415 mental health treatment plans +x5DFsRhEO3E-01748-00382416-00382647 prescriptions and pull these together in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01749-00382648-00382863 a way that might identify patients at +x5DFsRhEO3E-01750-00382864-00383047 risk then can be they can be assertively +x5DFsRhEO3E-01751-00383048-00383351 reached out to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01752-00383352-00383615 so i'll end it here but i'll make one +x5DFsRhEO3E-01753-00383616-00383823 final quick reference to one of the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01754-00383824-00383967 outcomes of this work that we did with +x5DFsRhEO3E-01755-00383968-00384215 gps last year +x5DFsRhEO3E-01756-00384216-00384382 and we at lara have started offering +x5DFsRhEO3E-01757-00384383-00384543 mental health education to general +x5DFsRhEO3E-01758-00384544-00384751 practice to support some of the needs +x5DFsRhEO3E-01759-00384752-00384902 that we heard about some of the more +x5DFsRhEO3E-01760-00384903-00385182 general mental health care needs +x5DFsRhEO3E-01761-00385183-00385327 we're offering mental health skills +x5DFsRhEO3E-01762-00385328-00385487 training and focused psychological +x5DFsRhEO3E-01763-00385488-00385758 strategies training to identify and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01764-00385759-00385871 manage +x5DFsRhEO3E-01765-00385872-00386095 treatment for mental health issues and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01766-00386096-00386334 to support gps to gain confidence in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01767-00386335-00386502 being able to utilize a range of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01768-00386503-00386758 psychological strategies +x5DFsRhEO3E-01769-00386759-00387015 this training has been developed in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01770-00387016-00387151 partnership with people with lived +x5DFsRhEO3E-01771-00387152-00387399 experience and is delivered by gps and a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01772-00387400-00387630 psychologist +x5DFsRhEO3E-01773-00387631-00387791 and the two sets of training combined +x5DFsRhEO3E-01774-00387792-00387878 really +x5DFsRhEO3E-01775-00387879-00388039 align with the state mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-01776-00388040-00388351 strategy to build system capability +x5DFsRhEO3E-01777-00388352-00388558 to support the workforce for earlier +x5DFsRhEO3E-01778-00388559-00388743 intervention and to build on the reform +x5DFsRhEO3E-01779-00388744-00388975 that ivan was talking about +x5DFsRhEO3E-01780-00388976-00389351 so i'll leave it there thank you +x5DFsRhEO3E-01781-00389352-00389502 thank you joe +x5DFsRhEO3E-01782-00389503-00389830 um very topical um at the moment and i'm +x5DFsRhEO3E-01783-00389831-00389967 sure um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01784-00389968-00390287 yeah we can um many of the issues you're +x5DFsRhEO3E-01785-00390288-00390534 experiencing experiencing in victoria +x5DFsRhEO3E-01786-00390535-00390727 we're also experiencing here obviously +x5DFsRhEO3E-01787-00390728-00390847 not to the same +x5DFsRhEO3E-01788-00390848-00391063 uh degree at the moment and i guess +x5DFsRhEO3E-01789-00391064-00391287 let's hope that stays that way but thank +x5DFsRhEO3E-01790-00391288-00391423 you for that and if people want more +x5DFsRhEO3E-01791-00391424-00391663 information can they um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01792-00391664-00391791 we'll send people your contact +x5DFsRhEO3E-01793-00391792-00392006 information particularly around the the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01794-00392007-00392151 training because i think you offered +x5DFsRhEO3E-01795-00392152-00392439 that australia-wide the mental health +x5DFsRhEO3E-01796-00392440-00392630 skills training yeah that's absolutely +x5DFsRhEO3E-01797-00392631-00392791 right we've had them really good to take +x5DFsRhEO3E-01798-00392792-00392975 up from gps across queensland but +x5DFsRhEO3E-01799-00392976-00393175 absolutely is available australia-wide +x5DFsRhEO3E-01800-00393176-00393278 so i've got my details on the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01801-00393279-00393423 presentation there but feel free to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01802-00393424-00393495 share +x5DFsRhEO3E-01803-00393496-00393702 fantastic thank you +x5DFsRhEO3E-01804-00393703-00394006 um all right well our last presentation +x5DFsRhEO3E-01805-00394007-00394302 um this morning i'm just going to fix my +x5DFsRhEO3E-01806-00394303-00394558 screen at the moment +x5DFsRhEO3E-01807-00394559-00394878 okay and we have lisa maynard um from +x5DFsRhEO3E-01808-00394879-00395158 jacob who'll be talking to us about +x5DFsRhEO3E-01809-00395159-00395334 queensland mental health week which is +x5DFsRhEO3E-01810-00395335-00395558 coming up from the 9th to the 17th of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01811-00395559-00395695 october +x5DFsRhEO3E-01812-00395696-00395934 excuse me checkups coordinated mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-01813-00395935-00396143 health week this is our fourth year i +x5DFsRhEO3E-01814-00396144-00396423 believe and lisa came on board last year +x5DFsRhEO3E-01815-00396424-00396727 so it's her second year coordinating uh +x5DFsRhEO3E-01816-00396728-00396943 this really important week +x5DFsRhEO3E-01817-00396944-00397158 and it's grown um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01818-00397159-00397310 each year +x5DFsRhEO3E-01819-00397311-00397695 we've had to as we say pivot and offer +x5DFsRhEO3E-01820-00397696-00397863 people are offering online events and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01821-00397864-00398039 face-to-face events now for mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-01822-00398040-00398151 health week +x5DFsRhEO3E-01823-00398152-00398439 so we're really um grateful to have lisa +x5DFsRhEO3E-01824-00398440-00398671 give us an update around how things are +x5DFsRhEO3E-01825-00398672-00398887 tracking for this this year's mental +x5DFsRhEO3E-01826-00398888-00399047 health week and give you some +x5DFsRhEO3E-01827-00399048-00399206 information about how you could get +x5DFsRhEO3E-01828-00399207-00399327 involved +x5DFsRhEO3E-01829-00399328-00399534 uh so lisa over to you +x5DFsRhEO3E-01830-00399535-00399758 oh thank you david and just checking my +x5DFsRhEO3E-01831-00399759-00400030 presentation is um easy to see for +x5DFsRhEO3E-01832-00400031-00400334 everyone yes yeah fantastic +x5DFsRhEO3E-01833-00400335-00400582 so um continuing on from david's +x5DFsRhEO3E-01834-00400583-00400734 acknowledgement earlier i'm actually +x5DFsRhEO3E-01835-00400735-00400967 presenting from brisbane uh so i would +x5DFsRhEO3E-01836-00400968-00401143 like to acknowledge the traditional +x5DFsRhEO3E-01837-00401144-00401334 owners and custodians of the land on +x5DFsRhEO3E-01838-00401335-00401551 which i'm here today and that's the +x5DFsRhEO3E-01839-00401552-00401799 terrible and yagura people +x5DFsRhEO3E-01840-00401800-00402191 so um just to give you a brief overview +x5DFsRhEO3E-01841-00402192-00402519 of um the week so um it's held in +x5DFsRhEO3E-01842-00402520-00402719 october every year and it aims to shine +x5DFsRhEO3E-01843-00402720-00402934 a spotlight on both individual and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01844-00402935-00403167 community mental health and well-being +x5DFsRhEO3E-01845-00403168-00403487 so it does take um an all of um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01846-00403488-00403734 population approach as well as +x5DFsRhEO3E-01847-00403735-00403999 highlighting and celebrating +x5DFsRhEO3E-01848-00404000-00404206 our mental health and community sectors +x5DFsRhEO3E-01849-00404207-00404343 and um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01850-00404344-00404534 you know really wanting to make sure +x5DFsRhEO3E-01851-00404535-00404799 people are encouraging help seeking so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01852-00404800-00404975 the week is funded by the queensland +x5DFsRhEO3E-01853-00404976-00405143 mental health commission so that is uh +x5DFsRhEO3E-01854-00405144-00405327 you know another part of the wonderful +x5DFsRhEO3E-01855-00405328-00405510 work that the commission does is funding +x5DFsRhEO3E-01856-00405511-00405615 um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01857-00405616-00405823 initiatives like this um and as david +x5DFsRhEO3E-01858-00405824-00405951 said it's the fourth year we've +x5DFsRhEO3E-01859-00405952-00406230 coordinated it here at checkup um but +x5DFsRhEO3E-01860-00406231-00406399 that coordination wouldn't be possible +x5DFsRhEO3E-01861-00406400-00406630 without a really strong cross-sector +x5DFsRhEO3E-01862-00406631-00406791 collaboration we're really lucky to have +x5DFsRhEO3E-01863-00406792-00406951 support from +x5DFsRhEO3E-01864-00406952-00407182 organizations right across the state who +x5DFsRhEO3E-01865-00407183-00407447 make the week possible so +x5DFsRhEO3E-01866-00407448-00407647 this year the week will be celebrated 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+x5DFsRhEO3E-01882-00410752-00411399 um just to give you a bit of a +x5DFsRhEO3E-01883-00411400-00411630 new identity that +x5DFsRhEO3E-01884-00411631-00411974 you'll be seeing um is that um we're +x5DFsRhEO3E-01885-00411975-00412134 once again going with the theme take +x5DFsRhEO3E-01886-00412135-00412366 time from itself so this +x5DFsRhEO3E-01887-00412367-00412607 is the third and final year that we'll +x5DFsRhEO3E-01888-00412608-00412830 have this at the thing as the theme and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01889-00412831-00413222 it really recognizes the importance of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01890-00413223-00413414 taking time to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01891-00413415-00413599 undertake activities that boost our +x5DFsRhEO3E-01892-00413600-00413791 mental health and well-being +x5DFsRhEO3E-01893-00413792-00414039 seek help when needed and it really +x5DFsRhEO3E-01894-00414039-00414263 works well aligning with the queensland +x5DFsRhEO3E-01895-00414264-00414478 government's demand campaign which ivan 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an eye out because we'll +x5DFsRhEO3E-01910-00417431-00417678 have lots of little um initiatives and +x5DFsRhEO3E-01911-00417679-00417847 activities trying to get people involved +x5DFsRhEO3E-01912-00417847-00418047 with different things to do with those +x5DFsRhEO3E-01913-00418047-00418303 six building blocks um in the six weeks +x5DFsRhEO3E-01914-00418304-00418439 prior to +x5DFsRhEO3E-01915-00418439-00418599 mental health week which is coming up +x5DFsRhEO3E-01916-00418600-00418870 very soon uh and we're very lucky as +x5DFsRhEO3E-01917-00418871-00419078 well to have had a beautiful piece of +x5DFsRhEO3E-01918-00419079-00419318 artwork um created by townsville artist +x5DFsRhEO3E-01919-00419319-00419479 jesse james to inform our visual +x5DFsRhEO3E-01920-00419480-00419687 identity um +x5DFsRhEO3E-01921-00419688-00419870 you know i would encourage you to see uh +x5DFsRhEO3E-01922-00419871-00420070 the artwork and it's you know a bigger +x5DFsRhEO3E-01923-00420071-00420247 version up 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+x6dy3Zmcimc-00026-00008610-00008801 going to discuss today laugh large +x6dy3Zmcimc-00027-00008802-00009095 numbers and Central limit theorem here +x6dy3Zmcimc-00028-00009096-00009287 they are the basically bridge between +x6dy3Zmcimc-00029-00009288-00009605 our probability and statistics +x6dy3Zmcimc-00030-00009606-00009706 okay +x6dy3Zmcimc-00031-00009707-00010037 some moment generating functions +x6dy3Zmcimc-00032-00010038-00010487 what is abbreviated as mgfs +x6dy3Zmcimc-00033-00010488-00010985 is a function Phi +x6dy3Zmcimc-00034-00010986-00011219 which goes from +x6dy3Zmcimc-00035-00011220-00011524 real values to positive real numbers +x6dy3Zmcimc-00036-00011525-00011699 and how it is defined +x6dy3Zmcimc-00037-00011700-00011974 Phi of X of a random variable X at Point +x6dy3Zmcimc-00038-00011975-00012328 T is defined as expectation of +x6dy3Zmcimc-00039-00012329-00012623 e to the power t x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00040-00012624-00012922 okay so X is your random variable and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00041-00012923-00013151 now you are going to take +x6dy3Zmcimc-00042-00013152-00013408 expectation of this so what you are +x6dy3Zmcimc-00043-00013409-00013558 basically doing is we are defining a new +x6dy3Zmcimc-00044-00013559-00013769 random variable Y which is e to the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00045-00013769-00014063 power T of X and now we are trying to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00046-00014063-00014243 find expectation of I +x6dy3Zmcimc-00047-00014244-00014633 and this is we are defining for every t +x6dy3Zmcimc-00048-00014634-00014794 that is why the argument of this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00049-00014795-00015161 function is the entire real line +x6dy3Zmcimc-00050-00015162-00015479 and now this e to the power t x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00051-00015480-00015622 this is always going to be positive +x6dy3Zmcimc-00052-00015623-00015815 right +x6dy3Zmcimc-00053-00015816-00016108 so this random variable y I have defined +x6dy3Zmcimc-00054-00016109-00016253 this is a positive valued random +x6dy3Zmcimc-00055-00016254-00016361 variable +x6dy3Zmcimc-00056-00016362-00016649 even if my X takes negative values +x6dy3Zmcimc-00057-00016650-00016858 y will always take positive value so +x6dy3Zmcimc-00058-00016859-00017153 that is why the range is always going to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00059-00017154-00017386 be positive valued +x6dy3Zmcimc-00060-00017387-00017627 now its expectation you can just see +x6dy3Zmcimc-00061-00017628-00017743 that +x6dy3Zmcimc-00062-00017744-00018041 and if you recall we had something +x6dy3Zmcimc-00063-00018042-00018400 called Lotus right law of unconscious +x6dy3Zmcimc-00064-00018401-00018622 statisticians yeah if you just apply +x6dy3Zmcimc-00065-00018623-00018869 this I really don't need to go and find +x6dy3Zmcimc-00066-00018870-00019175 out what is the pmf for PDF of Y +x6dy3Zmcimc-00067-00019176-00019541 from pmf or PDF of x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00068-00019542-00019775 all I just need to do is compute this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00069-00019776-00019930 probabilities +x6dy3Zmcimc-00070-00019931-00020177 and use the this function +x6dy3Zmcimc-00071-00020178-00020417 then you will directly get this moment +x6dy3Zmcimc-00072-00020418-00020579 generating functions +x6dy3Zmcimc-00073-00020580-00020819 so to find this momentum generating +x6dy3Zmcimc-00074-00020820-00021064 function that's it like if I to find a +x6dy3Zmcimc-00075-00021065-00021335 moment generation function of x if it is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00076-00021336-00021491 discrete +x6dy3Zmcimc-00077-00021492-00021749 just use this x value to compute its +x6dy3Zmcimc-00078-00021750-00022049 expectation and if it is continuous just +x6dy3Zmcimc-00079-00022050-00022253 use CDF of x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00080-00022254-00022475 to compute this expect I mean this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00081-00022476-00022636 expectation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00082-00022637-00022889 now why this moment generative functions +x6dy3Zmcimc-00083-00022890-00023021 are useful +x6dy3Zmcimc-00084-00023022-00023183 okay +x6dy3Zmcimc-00085-00023184-00023500 now look into this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00086-00023501-00023861 for time being +x6dy3Zmcimc-00087-00023862-00024203 that does not matter let's assume +x6dy3Zmcimc-00088-00024204-00024449 so notice that if you look into this Phi +x6dy3Zmcimc-00089-00024450-00024743 of X is this function +x6dy3Zmcimc-00090-00024744-00025013 is differentiable in t +x6dy3Zmcimc-00091-00025014-00025319 say Phi of X is taking t as the argument +x6dy3Zmcimc-00092-00025320-00025505 right can this function be +x6dy3Zmcimc-00093-00025506-00025702 differentiated at T +x6dy3Zmcimc-00094-00025704-00026027 okay let's say we can differentiate +x6dy3Zmcimc-00095-00026027-00026279 so what is this for time being just +x6dy3Zmcimc-00096-00026280-00026495 focus on the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00097-00026495-00026981 continuous case okay so now Phi of x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00098-00026982-00027599 of T is f of x x DX +x6dy3Zmcimc-00099-00027600-00028090 of oh sorry +x6dy3Zmcimc-00100-00028091-00028270 e to the power +x6dy3Zmcimc-00101-00028272-00028631 TX DX and this is internal now what I'm +x6dy3Zmcimc-00102-00028632-00028817 asking is d by DT +x6dy3Zmcimc-00103-00028818-00029207 of Phi of X at T +x6dy3Zmcimc-00104-00029208-00030761 and now I need to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00105-00030762-00030923 suppose I +x6dy3Zmcimc-00106-00030924-00031090 I +x6dy3Zmcimc-00107-00031091-00031331 now what I'm doing here first I'm doing +x6dy3Zmcimc-00108-00031332-00031517 the integration operation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00109-00031518-00031661 and then I'm doing the differentiation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00110-00031662-00031877 operations can this integration and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00111-00031877-00032267 differentiation operation can be swapped +x6dy3Zmcimc-00112-00032268-00032567 so instead of this I want to do this now +x6dy3Zmcimc-00113-00032568-00032746 I want to do +x6dy3Zmcimc-00114-00032747-00033568 differentiation first +x6dy3Zmcimc-00115-00033569-00033881 d by t s +x6dy3Zmcimc-00116-00033882-00034337 are they still the same if I do this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00117-00034338-00034702 s all the time +x6dy3Zmcimc-00118-00034703-00034924 huh +x6dy3Zmcimc-00119-00034925-00035368 when this is possible +x6dy3Zmcimc-00120-00035369-00035665 it need to be +x6dy3Zmcimc-00121-00035666-00035933 uniformly continuous what is that +x6dy3Zmcimc-00122-00035934-00036112 okay anyway check this when this is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00123-00036113-00036467 possible +x6dy3Zmcimc-00124-00036468-00036689 we're integrating +x6dy3Zmcimc-00125-00036690-00037252 yeah X +x6dy3Zmcimc-00126-00037253-00037457 yeah we are getting integrating over X +x6dy3Zmcimc-00127-00037458-00037745 that is fine but uh it's still always +x6dy3Zmcimc-00128-00037746-00037901 possible to change this integration and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00129-00037902-00038230 differentiation it's in general not true +x6dy3Zmcimc-00130-00038231-00038465 but it works under some conditions you +x6dy3Zmcimc-00131-00038466-00038659 can look for those conditions +x6dy3Zmcimc-00132-00038660-00039035 ah now if you do this here +x6dy3Zmcimc-00133-00039036-00039227 this becomes simpler right only thing +x6dy3Zmcimc-00134-00039228-00039527 that is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00135-00039528-00039712 differentiable +x6dy3Zmcimc-00136-00039713-00039851 since I have to differentiate with +x6dy3Zmcimc-00137-00039852-00040001 respect to T this is simply going to be +x6dy3Zmcimc-00138-00040002-00040439 t e to the power TX DX right +x6dy3Zmcimc-00139-00040440-00040637 and now if I do this this is going to be +x6dy3Zmcimc-00140-00040638-00040918 T times +x6dy3Zmcimc-00141-00040919-00041357 what is this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00142-00041358-00042109 uh now T has come out right +x6dy3Zmcimc-00143-00042110-00043399 all right +x6dy3Zmcimc-00144-00043400-00044068 now if you look into this expression +x6dy3Zmcimc-00145-00044069-00044321 one thing you will notice is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00146-00044322-00044639 had this thumb not been there +x6dy3Zmcimc-00147-00044640-00044873 e to the power t x this is exactly equal +x6dy3Zmcimc-00148-00044874-00045173 to expectation of x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00149-00045174-00045412 right and when this term will not be +x6dy3Zmcimc-00150-00045413-00045551 there +x6dy3Zmcimc-00151-00045552-00045790 one possibility is when T equals to zero +x6dy3Zmcimc-00152-00045791-00046151 so if I take do this D by d a t +x6dy3Zmcimc-00153-00046152-00046487 V of x t and compute it at T equals to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00154-00046488-00046930 zero I get expectation of x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00155-00046931-00047224 so like this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00156-00047225-00047746 if you do it +x6dy3Zmcimc-00157-00047747-00047951 take that second derivation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00158-00047952-00048202 you will end up with this expression +x6dy3Zmcimc-00159-00048203-00048640 okay and now say like this one here what +x6dy3Zmcimc-00160-00048641-00048965 I basically did here +x6dy3Zmcimc-00161-00048966-00049312 okay +x6dy3Zmcimc-00162-00049313-00049505 this I can simply write as this is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00163-00049506-00049787 nothing but expectation of +x6dy3Zmcimc-00164-00049788-00049930 X +x6dy3Zmcimc-00165-00049931-00050296 e to the power t x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00166-00050297-00050524 right +x6dy3Zmcimc-00167-00050525-00050789 now Simply Now if I so that is why this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00168-00050790-00050885 is X +x6dy3Zmcimc-00169-00050886-00051058 e to the power t x now if you do a +x6dy3Zmcimc-00170-00051059-00051232 double differentiation you will get and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00171-00051233-00051466 again if you put T equals to 0 you will +x6dy3Zmcimc-00172-00051467-00051551 get +x6dy3Zmcimc-00173-00051552-00051838 expectation of x square +x6dy3Zmcimc-00174-00051839-00052030 and similarly if you keep on doing take +x6dy3Zmcimc-00175-00052032-00052307 the nth derivative you will get this and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00176-00052308-00052547 when you sub compute that value at T +x6dy3Zmcimc-00177-00052548-00052744 equals to zero you will get this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00178-00052745-00053003 so now notice that you got expectation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00179-00053004-00053104 of x +x6dy3Zmcimc-00180-00053105-00053375 expectation of x square and expectation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00181-00053376-00053500 of +x6dy3Zmcimc-00182-00053501-00053687 X power n +x6dy3Zmcimc-00183-00053688-00054082 these are called basically the moments +x6dy3Zmcimc-00184-00054083-00054323 expectation of X is the first moment +x6dy3Zmcimc-00185-00054324-00054587 which we also call as +x6dy3Zmcimc-00186-00054588-00054719 mean +x6dy3Zmcimc-00187-00054720-00055037 and this is the second moment and like +x6dy3Zmcimc-00188-00055038-00055115 that +x6dy3Zmcimc-00189-00055116-00055354 and when you do it nth this is called +x6dy3Zmcimc-00190-00055355-00055637 the nth moment +x6dy3Zmcimc-00191-00055638-00055913 Okay so +x6dy3Zmcimc-00192-00055914-00056213 if you somehow know the moment +x6dy3Zmcimc-00193-00056214-00056407 generating function of a random variable +x6dy3Zmcimc-00194-00056408-00056644 basically you can generate all the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00195-00056645-00056963 moments +x6dy3Zmcimc-00196-00056964-00057215 okay just you need to do if you need to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00197-00057216-00057400 find the nth moment you need to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00198-00057401-00057700 differentiate that many times and after +x6dy3Zmcimc-00199-00057701-00057953 that plug into equals to 0 in the nth +x6dy3Zmcimc-00200-00057954-00058163 derivative +x6dy3Zmcimc-00201-00058164-00058421 OK this is true I am doing this another +x6dy3Zmcimc-00202-00058422-00058553 assumption that address is the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00203-00058554-00058829 differentiable at the point T equals +x6dy3Zmcimc-00204-00058829-00059063 and now if I know the first moment and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00205-00059064-00059303 second momentum +x6dy3Zmcimc-00206-00059304-00059429 moment +x6dy3Zmcimc-00207-00059429-00059903 I know the relation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00208-00059904-00060130 for computing the variance +x6dy3Zmcimc-00209-00060132-00060388 now variance of X is nothing but second +x6dy3Zmcimc-00210-00060389-00060647 momentum minus square of the first +x6dy3Zmcimc-00211-00060648-00060965 momentum you can even go and collect the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00212-00060966-00061204 variance in this case +x6dy3Zmcimc-00213-00061205-00061529 so another thing why +x6dy3Zmcimc-00214-00061529-00061769 moment generating functions are used is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00215-00061770-00062044 with them operations becomes many times +x6dy3Zmcimc-00216-00062045-00062207 useful +x6dy3Zmcimc-00217-00062208-00062488 okay for example let's say if you have +x6dy3Zmcimc-00218-00062489-00062680 this bunch of random variables +x6dy3Zmcimc-00219-00062682-00063244 and I say that they are independent +x6dy3Zmcimc-00220-00063245-00063641 okay now in that case and I'll be +x6dy3Zmcimc-00221-00063641-00063791 interested in this new random variable +x6dy3Zmcimc-00222-00063791-00063971 which is basically +x6dy3Zmcimc-00223-00063972-00064450 the sum of all these random variables +x6dy3Zmcimc-00224-00064451-00064721 and I am interested in finding Phi of Y +x6dy3Zmcimc-00225-00064722-00064835 at T +x6dy3Zmcimc-00226-00064836-00065003 so now that is why is nothing but +x6dy3Zmcimc-00227-00065004-00065111 summation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00228-00065112-00065447 and by definition okay before I write +x6dy3Zmcimc-00229-00065448-00065638 this sub by definition this quantity is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00230-00065639-00065838 nothing but +x6dy3Zmcimc-00231-00065839-00066143 expectation of e to the power +x6dy3Zmcimc-00232-00066144-00066485 t x 1 +x6dy3Zmcimc-00233-00066486-00066887 x 2 all the way up to x n +x6dy3Zmcimc-00234-00066888-00067109 which is nothing but expectation of e to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00235-00067110-00067271 the power t x 1 +x6dy3Zmcimc-00236-00067272-00067511 e to the power t x 2 +x6dy3Zmcimc-00237-00067512-00067913 and e to the power txl +x6dy3Zmcimc-00238-00067914-00068249 and now if this x 1 x 2 are independent +x6dy3Zmcimc-00239-00068250-00068441 can I write the expectation of the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00240-00068442-00068597 product as product of the expectations +x6dy3Zmcimc-00241-00068598-00068813 of each one of this term now we know +x6dy3Zmcimc-00242-00068814-00068969 that this is the thing bar this product +x6dy3Zmcimc-00243-00068970-00069232 I equals to 1 to n +x6dy3Zmcimc-00244-00069233-00069617 expectation of U to the power t x i +x6dy3Zmcimc-00245-00069618-00070013 and by definition this is nothing but +x6dy3Zmcimc-00246-00070014-00070175 pay off +x6dy3Zmcimc-00247-00070176-00070499 x i at T +x6dy3Zmcimc-00248-00070500-00071015 and that is what we have obtained +x6dy3Zmcimc-00249-00071016-00071243 okay so when +x6dy3Zmcimc-00250-00071244-00071435 I have this bunch of random variables +x6dy3Zmcimc-00251-00071436-00071644 and if they are independent +x6dy3Zmcimc-00252-00071645-00071921 if I know the moment generating function +x6dy3Zmcimc-00253-00071922-00072185 of each one of them then I can easily +x6dy3Zmcimc-00254-00072186-00072400 compute the moment generating function +x6dy3Zmcimc-00255-00072401-00072605 of their sum all I need to do is take +x6dy3Zmcimc-00256-00072606-00072826 the product +x6dy3Zmcimc-00257-00072827-00073169 and another good thing about mjf is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00258-00073170-00073385 moment generating functions uniquely +x6dy3Zmcimc-00259-00073386-00073650 determines the distribution +x6dy3Zmcimc-00260-00073651-00073979 if you give a distribution and if I find +x6dy3Zmcimc-00261-00073980-00074182 out its moment generative function there +x6dy3Zmcimc-00262-00074183-00074471 is a one to one map between them +x6dy3Zmcimc-00263-00074472-00074656 okay +x6dy3Zmcimc-00264-00074657-00074938 so here is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00265-00074939-00075263 I have directly put a table here +x6dy3Zmcimc-00266-00075264-00075587 Computing moment generating functions of +x6dy3Zmcimc-00267-00075588-00075755 some of the distributions that we have +x6dy3Zmcimc-00268-00075756-00075959 studied +x6dy3Zmcimc-00269-00075960-00076319 the moment generating functions +x6dy3Zmcimc-00270-00076320-00076499 of a Bernoulli random variable with +x6dy3Zmcimc-00271-00076500-00076679 probability p +x6dy3Zmcimc-00272-00076680-00077129 or with parameter p is this quantity +x6dy3Zmcimc-00273-00077130-00077597 and binomial is going to be like this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00274-00077598-00077885 and geometric can be computed to be like +x6dy3Zmcimc-00275-00077886-00078023 this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00276-00078024-00078232 like this poisson also computed and for +x6dy3Zmcimc-00277-00078233-00078376 the distributions like uniform +x6dy3Zmcimc-00278-00078377-00078785 exponential +x6dy3Zmcimc-00279-00078786-00079037 uh gaussian and Kamas have computed and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00280-00079038-00079361 written here +x6dy3Zmcimc-00281-00079362-00079782 okay now suppose let us say +x6dy3Zmcimc-00282-00079783-00080219 I give you a moment generating function +x6dy3Zmcimc-00283-00080220-00080417 which is of this form +x6dy3Zmcimc-00284-00080418-00080579 this is what +x6dy3Zmcimc-00285-00080580-00080800 this means this x is definitely has to +x6dy3Zmcimc-00286-00080801-00081755 be binomial +x6dy3Zmcimc-00287-00081756-00082037 okay and let's take another example if I +x6dy3Zmcimc-00288-00082038-00082217 have another moment generating function +x6dy3Zmcimc-00289-00082218-00084167 which I said to be like this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00290-00084168-00084481 foreign +x6dy3Zmcimc-00291-00084482-00084850 so this has to be +x6dy3Zmcimc-00292-00084851-00085109 this is which distribution first +x6dy3Zmcimc-00293-00085110-00085511 normal +x6dy3Zmcimc-00294-00085512-00085679 0.7 and +x6dy3Zmcimc-00295-00085680-00086021 one variance is going to be one +x6dy3Zmcimc-00296-00086022-00086176 okay +x6dy3Zmcimc-00297-00086177-00086429 so like this if I tell you any moment +x6dy3Zmcimc-00298-00086430-00086644 generator functions you should be able +x6dy3Zmcimc-00299-00086645-00087005 to uniquely map it to that distribution +x6dy3Zmcimc-00300-00087006-00087462 and there is one more notion of +x6dy3Zmcimc-00301-00087463-00087641 characteristic function which is very +x6dy3Zmcimc-00302-00087642-00087826 analogous to moment generating function +x6dy3Zmcimc-00303-00087827-00088055 but that involves this complex number +x6dy3Zmcimc-00304-00088056-00088223 instead of Simply taking it to the power +x6dy3Zmcimc-00305-00088224-00088523 TX we will take it as a to the power T J +x6dy3Zmcimc-00306-00088524-00088715 X if our +x6dy3Zmcimc-00307-00088716-00088912 random variable has some complex value +x6dy3Zmcimc-00308-00088913-00089356 in that maybe it can handle that +x6dy3Zmcimc-00309-00089357-00089717 okay and what is J here J is the Euler's +x6dy3Zmcimc-00310-00089718-00090076 number +x6dy3Zmcimc-00311-00090077-00090197 okay +x6dy3Zmcimc-00312-00090198-00090581 and by definition or like as a property +x6dy3Zmcimc-00313-00090582-00090773 this characteristic function always +x6dy3Zmcimc-00314-00090774-00090971 exists +x6dy3Zmcimc-00315-00090972-00091241 okay so once we make it a complex valued +x6dy3Zmcimc-00316-00091242-00091426 right if something we can't present in +x6dy3Zmcimc-00317-00091427-00091565 real we can always present in the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00318-00091566-00091679 complex domain +x6dy3Zmcimc-00319-00091680-00091925 so that's why this the good thing about +x6dy3Zmcimc-00320-00091926-00092068 characteristic function is this always +x6dy3Zmcimc-00321-00092069-00092176 exists +x6dy3Zmcimc-00322-00092177-00092368 and sometime moment generating functions +x6dy3Zmcimc-00323-00092369-00092591 may not exist +x6dy3Zmcimc-00324-00092592-00092993 the remark +x6dy3Zmcimc-00325-00092994-00093232 like if we know that +x6dy3Zmcimc-00326-00093233-00093779 let's say +x6dy3Zmcimc-00327-00093780-00093953 for +x6dy3Zmcimc-00328-00093954-00094271 some l +x6dy3Zmcimc-00329-00094272-00094750 what does this mean +x6dy3Zmcimc-00330-00094751-00095015 yeah so the nth moment of a random +x6dy3Zmcimc-00331-00095016-00095200 variable is finite +x6dy3Zmcimc-00332-00095201-00095573 that means its nth moment exists +x6dy3Zmcimc-00333-00095574-00095782 what does this mean is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00334-00095783-00095993 this implies I mean this needs a proof +x6dy3Zmcimc-00335-00095994-00096185 but I'm just giving as a remark +x6dy3Zmcimc-00336-00096186-00096382 this is going to be then this implies +x6dy3Zmcimc-00337-00096383-00096725 that X of J is going to be Infinity less +x6dy3Zmcimc-00338-00096726-00096988 than infinity for all J less than a +x6dy3Zmcimc-00339-00096989-00097144 requested +x6dy3Zmcimc-00340-00097145-00097487 so if n tournament is finite it means if +x6dy3Zmcimc-00341-00097488-00097756 exists all the lower limb +x6dy3Zmcimc-00342-00097757-00098009 the moments also exist +x6dy3Zmcimc-00343-00098010-00098273 but with this information I can't claim +x6dy3Zmcimc-00344-00098274-00098705 that expectation of x n plus 1 +x6dy3Zmcimc-00345-00098706-00098944 is finite I can't claim this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00346-00098945-00099418 this does not imply +x6dy3Zmcimc-00347-00099419-00099581 okay +x6dy3Zmcimc-00348-00099582-00099791 okay so more on the moment generating +x6dy3Zmcimc-00349-00099792-00099994 functions we will say +x6dy3Zmcimc-00350-00099995-00100235 in the tutorial session +x6dy3Zmcimc-00351-00100236-00100667 and we just +x6dy3Zmcimc-00352-00100668-00100918 you have to remember this +x6dy3Zmcimc-00353-00100919-00101212 like the only thing is uh discrete you +x6dy3Zmcimc-00354-00101213-00101381 have to use the appropriate summation +x6dy3Zmcimc-00355-00101382-00101603 well a formula like and if it is +x6dy3Zmcimc-00356-00101604-00101705 continuous you have to use the +x6dy3Zmcimc-00357-00101706-00102035 integration the use the PDF there +x6dy3Zmcimc-00358-00102036-00102693 [Music] +x6dy3Zmcimc-00359-00102694-00104136 [Applause] +x6dy3Zmcimc-00360-00104138-00104627 [Applause] +x6dy3Zmcimc-00361-00104628-00104928 foreign +x6x3AZ14ktY-00000-00000162-00000403 and as part of your creative process +x6x3AZ14ktY-00001-00000404-00000634 where do you start yeah so we always go +x6x3AZ14ktY-00002-00000635-00000833 back to the real always go back to the +x6x3AZ14ktY-00003-00000834-00001193 rail and let the real guide us towards +x6x3AZ14ktY-00004-00001194-00001565 what's right to the right outcomes +x6x3AZ14ktY-00005-00001566-00001864 in being able to not pick apart but +x6x3AZ14ktY-00006-00001866-00002026 understand +x6x3AZ14ktY-00007-00002027-00002225 um the intricacies of video and that's +x6x3AZ14ktY-00008-00002226-00002459 why I knew your toy +x6x3AZ14ktY-00009-00002460-00002661 um +x6x3AZ14ktY-00010-00002662-00003055 [Music] +x6x3AZ14ktY-00011-00003056-00003329 is another one and so having that word +x6x3AZ14ktY-00012-00003329-00003581 there tells me that there's a massive +x6x3AZ14ktY-00013-00003582-00003863 environmental thinking that we should be +x6x3AZ14ktY-00014-00003864-00004127 um thinking about not just the plants +x6x3AZ14ktY-00015-00004128-00004403 but the the cycle of life with a net +x6x3AZ14ktY-00016-00004404-00004786 environment water insects bird life +x6x3AZ14ktY-00017-00004787-00004919 um +x6x3AZ14ktY-00018-00004920-00005099 everything that goes with it even the +x6x3AZ14ktY-00019-00005100-00005333 even the the dead stuff on the ground +x6x3AZ14ktY-00020-00005334-00005597 and how that gets recycled back to Earth +x6x3AZ14ktY-00021-00005598-00005777 the cleaner the dead stuff the better +x6x3AZ14ktY-00022-00005778-00006035 than the living stuff +x6x3AZ14ktY-00023-00006036-00006215 so I think that yeah +x6x3AZ14ktY-00024-00006216-00006646 using this to honor your toy and then +x6x3AZ14ktY-00025-00006647-00006809 being able to go through each of those +x6x3AZ14ktY-00026-00006809-00007187 other things +x6x3AZ14ktY-00027-00007188-00007378 not one job was more important than the +x6x3AZ14ktY-00028-00007379-00007648 other they're all just as important you +x6x3AZ14ktY-00029-00007650-00007834 get rid of one then the rest start to +x6x3AZ14ktY-00030-00007836-00007960 fail +x6x3AZ14ktY-00031-00007961-00008051 um +x6x3AZ14ktY-00032-00008052-00008345 so yeah maintenance across the board +x6x3AZ14ktY-00033-00008346-00008555 so if we can capture that in some sort +x6x3AZ14ktY-00034-00008556-00008842 of tofu design +x6x3AZ14ktY-00035-00008843-00009053 um using you know +x6x3AZ14ktY-00036-00009054-00009287 um Baraka work that you talked about +x6x3AZ14ktY-00037-00009288-00009533 earlier here +x6x3AZ14ktY-00038-00009534-00009814 and then making it pretty +x6x3AZ14ktY-00039-00009815-00010006 pretty but also and like I said before +x6x3AZ14ktY-00040-00010007-00010192 that experience when people look at it +x6x3AZ14ktY-00041-00010193-00010313 you want them to +x6x3AZ14ktY-00042-00010314-00010523 not question it but it ever seem to +x6x3AZ14ktY-00043-00010524-00010678 wonder about it +x6x3AZ14ktY-00044-00010679-00010895 I wonder what they were thinking when I +x6x3AZ14ktY-00045-00010896-00011021 wonder +x6x3AZ14ktY-00046-00011022-00011387 the corridable that goes with I wonder +x6x3AZ14ktY-00047-00011388-00011717 how big the process was to get to there +x6x3AZ14ktY-00048-00011718-00011999 to me I think is uh +x6x3AZ14ktY-00049-00012000-00012278 yeah big one +x6HeDhKmz-U-00000-00001557-00002883 [Laughter] +x6HeDhKmz-U-00001-00002884-00005683 foreign +x6HeDhKmz-U-00003-00009884-00011283 okay +x6HeDhKmz-U-00004-00011284-00012683 okay +x6HeDhKmz-U-00005-00012684-00012984 well +x7gY69rKEa4-00000-00000048-00000295 hello everybody welcome to my vocabulary +x7gY69rKEa4-00001-00000296-00000390 course +x7gY69rKEa4-00002-00000391-00000599 today i'm going to show you some body +x7gY69rKEa4-00003-00000600-00000751 languages +x7gY69rKEa4-00004-00000752-00000943 and what you have to do you will guess +x7gY69rKEa4-00005-00000944-00001062 the word +x7gY69rKEa4-00006-00001063-00001311 my first body language +x7gY69rKEa4-00007-00001312-00002479 guess it okay +x7gY69rKEa4-00008-00002480-00003590 keep guessing my second body language is +x7gY69rKEa4-00009-00003592-00004527 okay my third body language +x7gY69rKEa4-00010-00004528-00005751 my fourth body language is +x7gY69rKEa4-00011-00005752-00005943 ladies and gentlemen what i wanted to +x7gY69rKEa4-00012-00005944-00006175 teach you today the word +x7gY69rKEa4-00013-00006176-00006295 egg +x7gY69rKEa4-00014-00006296-00006510 i repeat egg +x7gY69rKEa4-00015-00006511-00006703 leave it after me +x7gY69rKEa4-00016-00006704-00006927 egg +x7gY69rKEa4-00017-00006928-00007119 ache +x7gY69rKEa4-00018-00007120-00007278 and what is ache +x7gY69rKEa4-00019-00007279-00007534 ache is a continuous pain that is +x7gY69rKEa4-00020-00007536-00007823 unpleasant but not very strong my first +x7gY69rKEa4-00021-00007823-00008031 body language was +x7gY69rKEa4-00022-00008031-00008295 headache +x7gY69rKEa4-00023-00008296-00008678 headache +x7gY69rKEa4-00024-00008679-00008935 and my second body language was +x7gY69rKEa4-00025-00008936-00009151 stomachache +x7gY69rKEa4-00026-00009152-00009359 stomachache +x7gY69rKEa4-00027-00009360-00009567 stomachache +x7gY69rKEa4-00028-00009568-00009903 and my third body language was +x7gY69rKEa4-00029-00009904-00010078 thick +x7gY69rKEa4-00030-00010079-00010271 to thick +x7gY69rKEa4-00031-00010272-00010599 and my third body language was +x7gY69rKEa4-00032-00010600-00010806 neck +x7gY69rKEa4-00033-00010807-00010991 neck +x7gY69rKEa4-00034-00010992-00011303 i hope you found this video very helpful +x7gY69rKEa4-00035-00011304-00011542 keep watching and my next video is all +x7gY69rKEa4-00036-00011543-00012104 about music keep watching thank you +x8Wul2pHXDc-00000-00000022-00000871 [Music] +x8Wul2pHXDc-00001-00000872-00001196 come on +xqnHVz_6RPg-00000-00000038-00000281 Buddhist philosophy refers to the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00001-00000282-00000515 philosophical investigations and systems +xqnHVz_6RPg-00002-00000516-00000707 of inquiry that developed among various +xqnHVz_6RPg-00003-00000708-00000902 Buddhist schools in India following the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00004-00000902-00001049 death of the Buddha and later spread +xqnHVz_6RPg-00005-00001050-00001268 throughout Asia the Buddhist path +xqnHVz_6RPg-00006-00001269-00001495 combines both philosophical reasoning +xqnHVz_6RPg-00007-00001496-00001723 and meditation the Buddhist traditions +xqnHVz_6RPg-00008-00001725-00001942 present a multitude of Buddhist paths to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00009-00001943-00002126 liberation and Buddhist thinkers in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00010-00002127-00002363 India and subsequently in East Asia have +xqnHVz_6RPg-00011-00002364-00002504 covered topics as varied as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00012-00002505-00002742 phenomenology ethics ontology +xqnHVz_6RPg-00013-00002743-00003001 epistemology logic and philosophy of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00014-00003002-00003231 time in their analysis of these paths +xqnHVz_6RPg-00015-00003232-00003479 early Buddhism was based on empirical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00016-00003479-00003697 evidence gained by the sense organs aiya +xqnHVz_6RPg-00017-00003698-00003856 Tana and the Buddha seems to have +xqnHVz_6RPg-00018-00003857-00004019 retained a skeptical distance from +xqnHVz_6RPg-00019-00004020-00004241 certain metaphysical questions refusing +xqnHVz_6RPg-00020-00004242-00004354 to answer them because they were not +xqnHVz_6RPg-00021-00004355-00004568 conducive to liberation but led instead +xqnHVz_6RPg-00022-00004569-00004835 to further speculation a recurrent theme +xqnHVz_6RPg-00023-00004836-00005029 in Buddhist philosophy has been the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00024-00005030-00005218 reification of concepts and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00025-00005219-00005404 subsequent return to the Buddhist Middle +xqnHVz_6RPg-00026-00005405-00005581 Way particular points of Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00027-00005582-00005759 philosophy have often been the subject +xqnHVz_6RPg-00028-00005760-00005966 of disputes between different schools of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00029-00005967-00006259 Buddhism these elaborations and disputes +xqnHVz_6RPg-00030-00006260-00006481 gave rise to various schools in early +xqnHVz_6RPg-00031-00006483-00006650 Buddhism of abbi Dharma and to the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00032-00006651-00006848 Mahayana traditions and schools of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00033-00006848-00007081 Prussian a parameter madhyamaka Buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-00034-00007083-00007493 nature in yogacara +xqnHVz_6RPg-00035-00007494-00007781 topic historical phases of early +xqnHVz_6RPg-00036-00007781-00008280 Buddhist philosophy in India +xqnHVz_6RPg-00037-00008281-00008531 Edward con splits the development of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00038-00008532-00008724 Indian Buddhist philosophy into three +xqnHVz_6RPg-00039-00008725-00008973 phases the first phase concerns +xqnHVz_6RPg-00040-00008974-00009159 questions of the original doctrines +xqnHVz_6RPg-00041-00009160-00009330 derived from oral traditions that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00042-00009331-00009498 originated during the life of the Buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-00043-00009499-00009689 and are common to all later sects of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00044-00009690-00009935 Buddhism the second phase concerns +xqnHVz_6RPg-00045-00009936-00010284 Hinayana scholastic Buddhism as evident +xqnHVz_6RPg-00046-00010285-00010476 in the abhidharma texts beginning in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00047-00010477-00010671 third century BCE that features +xqnHVz_6RPg-00048-00010672-00010853 scholastic reworking and schematic +xqnHVz_6RPg-00049-00010854-00011085 classification of material in the sutras +xqnHVz_6RPg-00050-00011086-00011358 the third phase of development of Indian +xqnHVz_6RPg-00051-00011359-00011596 Buddhist philosophy concerns Mahayana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00052-00011597-00011880 metaphysical Buddhism beginning in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00053-00011881-00012063 late first century CE II which +xqnHVz_6RPg-00054-00012064-00012282 emphasizes monastic life in the path of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00055-00012283-00012549 a bodhisattva various elements of these +xqnHVz_6RPg-00056-00012550-00012758 three phases are incorporated and/or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00057-00012759-00012941 further developed in the philosophy and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00058-00012942-00013122 worldview of the various sects of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00059-00013122-00013552 Buddhism that then emerged +xqnHVz_6RPg-00060-00013553-00014174 topic philosophical orientation +xqnHVz_6RPg-00061-00014175-00014405 philosophy in India was aimed mainly at +xqnHVz_6RPg-00062-00014406-00014577 spiritual liberation and had +xqnHVz_6RPg-00063-00014578-00014874 soteriological goals in his study of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00064-00014875-00015135 madhyamaka Buddhist philosophy in India +xqnHVz_6RPg-00065-00015136-00015432 Peter della Santina writes attention +xqnHVz_6RPg-00066-00015433-00015621 must first of all be drawn to the fact +xqnHVz_6RPg-00067-00015622-00015840 that philosophical systems in India were +xqnHVz_6RPg-00068-00015841-00016062 seldom if ever purely speculative or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00069-00016063-00016305 descriptive virtually all the great +xqnHVz_6RPg-00070-00016306-00016554 philosophical systems of India Sankhya +xqnHVz_6RPg-00071-00016555-00016839 Advaita Vedanta madhyamaka and so forth +xqnHVz_6RPg-00072-00016840-00016992 were pre-eminently concerned with +xqnHVz_6RPg-00073-00016993-00017169 providing a means to liberation or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00074-00017170-00017454 salvation it was a tacit assumption with +xqnHVz_6RPg-00075-00017455-00017634 these systems that if their philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-00076-00017635-00017778 were correctly understood and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00077-00017779-00017985 assimilated an unconditioned state free +xqnHVz_6RPg-00078-00017986-00018156 of suffering and limitation could be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00079-00018157-00018384 achieved +xqnHVz_6RPg-00080-00018385-00018615 if this fact is overlooked as often +xqnHVz_6RPg-00081-00018616-00018783 happens as a result of the propensity +xqnHVz_6RPg-00082-00018784-00018984 engendered by formal Occidental +xqnHVz_6RPg-00083-00018985-00019163 philosophy to consider the philosophical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00084-00019164-00019407 Enterprise as a purely descriptive one +xqnHVz_6RPg-00085-00019408-00019605 the real significance of Indian and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00086-00019606-00019899 Buddhist philosophy will be myst for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00087-00019900-00020073 Indian Buddhist philosophers the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00088-00020074-00020229 teachings of the Buddha were not meant +xqnHVz_6RPg-00089-00020230-00020415 to be taken on faith alone but to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00090-00020416-00020634 confirmed by logical analysis brahmana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00091-00020635-00020916 of the world the early Buddhist texts +xqnHVz_6RPg-00092-00020917-00021072 mentioned that a person becomes a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00093-00021073-00021243 follower of the Buddhist teachings after +xqnHVz_6RPg-00094-00021244-00021414 having pondered them over with wisdom +xqnHVz_6RPg-00095-00021415-00021636 and the gradual training also requires +xqnHVz_6RPg-00096-00021637-00021810 that a disciple investigate +xqnHVz_6RPg-00097-00021811-00022020 ooop apricotty and scrutinised to let +xqnHVz_6RPg-00098-00022021-00022254 eat the teachings the Buddha also +xqnHVz_6RPg-00099-00022255-00022476 expected his disciples to approach him +xqnHVz_6RPg-00100-00022477-00022680 as a teacher in a critical fashion and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00101-00022681-00022866 scrutinize his actions and words as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00102-00022867-00023322 shown in the Vermont asada +xqnHVz_6RPg-00103-00023323-00023934 topic the Buddha and early Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-00104-00023935-00024397 topic the Buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-00105-00024398-00024636 scholarly opinion varies as to whether +xqnHVz_6RPg-00106-00024637-00024814 the Buddha himself was engaged in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00107-00024815-00025105 philosophical inquiry the Buddha circa +xqnHVz_6RPg-00108-00025106-00025311 5th century BC was a North Indian +xqnHVz_6RPg-00109-00025312-00025450 sramana from ligado +xqnHVz_6RPg-00110-00025451-00025705 he cultivated various yogic techniques +xqnHVz_6RPg-00111-00025706-00025902 and ascetic practices and taught +xqnHVz_6RPg-00112-00025904-00026043 throughout North India where his +xqnHVz_6RPg-00113-00026044-00026308 teachings took hold these teachings are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00114-00026308-00026512 preserved in the Pali nakaya's and India +xqnHVz_6RPg-00115-00026513-00026701 gammas as well as in other surviving +xqnHVz_6RPg-00116-00026702-00027004 fragmentary textual collections dating +xqnHVz_6RPg-00117-00027005-00027181 these texts is difficult and there is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00118-00027182-00027327 disagreement on how much of this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00119-00027329-00027556 material goes back to a single religious +xqnHVz_6RPg-00120-00027557-00027811 founder while the focus of the Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00121-00027812-00027955 teachings are about attaining the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00122-00027956-00028117 highest good of nirvana they also +xqnHVz_6RPg-00123-00028118-00028324 contain an analysis of the source of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00124-00028325-00028525 human suffering the nature of personal +xqnHVz_6RPg-00125-00028526-00028702 identity and the process of acquiring +xqnHVz_6RPg-00126-00028702-00029169 knowledge about the world +xqnHVz_6RPg-00127-00029170-00029605 topic the middle way +xqnHVz_6RPg-00128-00029606-00029869 the buddha defined his teaching us the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00129-00029870-00030085 middle way in the dhammacakkappavattana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00130-00030086-00030361 sutta this is used to refer to the fact +xqnHVz_6RPg-00131-00030362-00030523 that his teaching steer a middle course +xqnHVz_6RPg-00132-00030524-00030762 between the extremes of asceticism and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00133-00030763-00030973 bodily denial as practiced by the Jains +xqnHVz_6RPg-00134-00030974-00031147 and others from honest and sensual +xqnHVz_6RPg-00135-00031148-00031464 hedonism or indulgence many sermon is of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00136-00031466-00031657 the Buddhist time placed much emphasis +xqnHVz_6RPg-00137-00031658-00031897 on a denial of the body using practices +xqnHVz_6RPg-00138-00031898-00032083 such as fasting to liberate the mind +xqnHVz_6RPg-00139-00032083-00032314 from the body the Buddha however +xqnHVz_6RPg-00140-00032314-00032527 realized that the mind was embodied and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00141-00032527-00032707 causally dependent on the body and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00142-00032708-00032899 therefore that a malnourished body did +xqnHVz_6RPg-00143-00032900-00033058 not allow the mind to be trained and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00144-00033059-00033337 developed thus Buddhism's main concern +xqnHVz_6RPg-00145-00033338-00033535 is not with luxury or poverty but +xqnHVz_6RPg-00146-00033536-00033696 instead with the human response to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00147-00033697-00034064 circumstances +xqnHVz_6RPg-00148-00034065-00034718 topic basic teachings certain basic +xqnHVz_6RPg-00149-00034719-00034874 teachings appear in many places +xqnHVz_6RPg-00150-00034875-00035087 throughout these early texts so older +xqnHVz_6RPg-00151-00035088-00035287 studies by various scholars conclude +xqnHVz_6RPg-00152-00035288-00035426 that the Buddha must at least have +xqnHVz_6RPg-00153-00035427-00035702 taught some of these key teachings the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00154-00035703-00036104 middle way the Four Noble Truths the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00155-00036105-00036383 Noble Eightfold Path three marks of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00156-00036384-00036673 existence impermanence unease not self +xqnHVz_6RPg-00157-00036674-00037168 five aggregates dependent arising karma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00158-00037169-00037465 and rebirth nirvana critical studies by +xqnHVz_6RPg-00159-00037466-00037670 Schmitt Heusen fetter bronckhorst +xqnHVz_6RPg-00160-00037671-00037871 Gombrich and others have adjusted this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00161-00037872-00038071 list of basic teachings and revealed a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00162-00038072-00038246 more nuanced genesis of the Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00163-00038247-00038486 teachings according to Vetter the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00164-00038487-00038654 description of the Buddhist path may +xqnHVz_6RPg-00165-00038655-00038810 initially have been as simple as the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00166-00038811-00039137 term the middle way in time this short +xqnHVz_6RPg-00167-00039138-00039352 description was elaborated resulting in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00168-00039353-00039514 the description of the Eightfold Path +xqnHVz_6RPg-00169-00039515-00039755 veter argues that the Eightfold Path +xqnHVz_6RPg-00170-00039756-00039992 constitutes a body of practices which +xqnHVz_6RPg-00171-00039993-00040199 prepare one and led up to the practice +xqnHVz_6RPg-00172-00040200-00040276 of Dhyana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00173-00040277-00040499 according to Vedder and Bronckhorst +xqnHVz_6RPg-00174-00040500-00040700 Dhyana constituted the original +xqnHVz_6RPg-00175-00040701-00041015 liberating practice while discriminating +xqnHVz_6RPg-00176-00041016-00041240 insight into transiency as a separate +xqnHVz_6RPg-00177-00041241-00041396 path deliberation was a later +xqnHVz_6RPg-00178-00041397-00041621 development according to Bronckhorst the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00179-00041622-00041821 four truths may not have been formulated +xqnHVz_6RPg-00180-00041822-00042008 in earliest Buddhism and did not serve +xqnHVz_6RPg-00181-00042009-00042208 in earliest Buddhism as a description of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00182-00042209-00042518 liberating insight Lambert Schmitt +xqnHVz_6RPg-00183-00042519-00042695 Heusen concluded that the four truths +xqnHVz_6RPg-00184-00042696-00042851 were a later development in early +xqnHVz_6RPg-00185-00042852-00043136 Buddhism Carol Anderson following +xqnHVz_6RPg-00186-00043137-00043396 Lambert Schmitt Heusen and kr Norman +xqnHVz_6RPg-00187-00043397-00043577 notes that the four truths are missing +xqnHVz_6RPg-00188-00043578-00043768 in critical passages in the Canon and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00189-00043769-00043917 States +xqnHVz_6RPg-00190-00043918-00044168 the four noble truths were probably not +xqnHVz_6RPg-00191-00044169-00044352 part of the earliest strata of what came +xqnHVz_6RPg-00192-00044353-00044543 to be recognized as Buddhism but that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00193-00044544-00044718 they emerged as a central teaching in a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00194-00044719-00044880 slightly later period that still +xqnHVz_6RPg-00195-00044881-00045060 preceded the final redactions of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00196-00045061-00045420 various Buddhist canons according to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00197-00045421-00045630 both Bronckhorst and Anderson the four +xqnHVz_6RPg-00198-00045631-00045840 truths became a substitution for Praja +xqnHVz_6RPg-00199-00045841-00046179 or liberating insight in the suttas in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00200-00046180-00046490 those texts where liberating insight was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00201-00046491-00046710 preceded by the four jhanas according to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00202-00046711-00046902 some scholars the philosophical outlook +xqnHVz_6RPg-00203-00046903-00047102 of earliest Buddhism was primarily +xqnHVz_6RPg-00204-00047103-00047298 negative in the sense that it focused on +xqnHVz_6RPg-00205-00047299-00047471 what doctrines to reject more than on +xqnHVz_6RPg-00206-00047472-00047742 what doctrines to accept only knowledge +xqnHVz_6RPg-00207-00047743-00047880 that is useful in achieving +xqnHVz_6RPg-00208-00047881-00048099 enlightenment is valued according to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00209-00048100-00048321 this theory the cycle of philosophical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00210-00048322-00048480 appeals that in part drove the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00211-00048481-00048668 diversification of Buddhism into its +xqnHVz_6RPg-00212-00048669-00048885 many schools and sects only began once +xqnHVz_6RPg-00213-00048886-00049043 Buddhists began attempting to make +xqnHVz_6RPg-00214-00049044-00049257 explicit the implicit philosophy of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00215-00049258-00049726 Buddha in the early texts +xqnHVz_6RPg-00216-00049727-00050267 topic the Noble Truths and causation +xqnHVz_6RPg-00217-00050268-00050564 the four noble truths or truths of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00218-00050565-00050825 noble one are a central feature of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00219-00050826-00050972 teachings and are put forth in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00220-00050973-00051245 dhammacakkappavattana sutta the first +xqnHVz_6RPg-00221-00051246-00051455 truth of dukkha often translated as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00222-00051456-00051592 suffering is the inherent +xqnHVz_6RPg-00223-00051593-00051839 unsatisfactoriness of life this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00224-00051840-00052037 unpleasantness is said to be not just +xqnHVz_6RPg-00225-00052038-00052229 physical pain but also a kind of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00226-00052230-00052398 existential unease caused by the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00227-00052399-00052613 inevitable facts of our mortality and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00228-00052614-00052785 ultimately by the impermanence of all +xqnHVz_6RPg-00229-00052786-00053051 phenomena it also arises because of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00230-00053052-00053271 contact with unpleasant events and due +xqnHVz_6RPg-00231-00053272-00053513 to not getting what one desires the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00232-00053514-00053724 second truth is that this unease arises +xqnHVz_6RPg-00233-00053725-00053942 out of conditions mainly craving Tana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00234-00053943-00054242 and ignorance avidya the third truth is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00235-00054243-00054396 then the fact that if you let go of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00236-00054397-00054557 craving and remove ignorance through +xqnHVz_6RPg-00237-00054558-00054816 knowledge Dukas ceases nirodha the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00238-00054816-00054999 fourth is the Eightfold Path which are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00239-00055000-00055193 eight practices that end suffering they +xqnHVz_6RPg-00240-00055194-00055365 are right view right intention right +xqnHVz_6RPg-00241-00055366-00055544 speech right action Right Livelihood +xqnHVz_6RPg-00242-00055545-00055797 right effort right mindfulness and right +xqnHVz_6RPg-00243-00055798-00056051 Samadhi mental unification meditation +xqnHVz_6RPg-00244-00056052-00056298 the goal taught by the Buddha Nirvana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00245-00056299-00056501 literally means extinguishing and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00246-00056502-00056754 signified the complete extinguishing of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00247-00056754-00057056 greed hatred and delusion ie ignorant +xqnHVz_6RPg-00248-00057057-00057441 the forces which power samsara Nirvana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00249-00057441-00057629 also means that after an enlightened +xqnHVz_6RPg-00250-00057630-00057818 beings death there is no further rebirth +xqnHVz_6RPg-00251-00057819-00058079 in early Buddhism the concept of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00252-00058080-00058272 dependent origination was most likely +xqnHVz_6RPg-00253-00058273-00058451 limited to processes of mental +xqnHVz_6RPg-00254-00058452-00058635 conditioning and not to all physical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00255-00058636-00058878 phenomena the Buddha understood the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00256-00058879-00059093 world in procedural terms not in terms +xqnHVz_6RPg-00257-00059094-00059369 of things or substances his theory +xqnHVz_6RPg-00258-00059370-00059567 posits a flux of events arising under +xqnHVz_6RPg-00259-00059568-00059711 certain conditions which are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00260-00059712-00059918 interconnected and dependent such that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00261-00059919-00060141 the processes in question at no time are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00262-00060141-00060367 considered to be static or independent +xqnHVz_6RPg-00263-00060368-00060660 craving for example is always dependent +xqnHVz_6RPg-00264-00060661-00060932 on and caused by sensations sensations +xqnHVz_6RPg-00265-00060933-00061187 are always dependent on contact with our +xqnHVz_6RPg-00266-00061188-00061430 surroundings Buddha's causal theory is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00267-00061431-00061637 simply descriptive this existing that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00268-00061638-00061923 exists this arising that arises this not +xqnHVz_6RPg-00269-00061924-00062124 existing that does not exist this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00270-00062125-00062336 ceasing that ceases this understanding +xqnHVz_6RPg-00271-00062337-00062567 of causation is impersonal like causal +xqnHVz_6RPg-00272-00062568-00062736 ordering is important because it shows +xqnHVz_6RPg-00273-00062737-00062922 how the processes that give rise to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00274-00062923-00063137 suffering work and also how they can be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00275-00063138-00063194 reversed +xqnHVz_6RPg-00276-00063195-00063399 the removal of suffering then requires a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00277-00063400-00063561 deep understanding of the nature of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00278-00063562-00063636 reality +xqnHVz_6RPg-00279-00063637-00063945 Praja while philosophical analysis of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00280-00063946-00064128 arguments and concepts is clearly +xqnHVz_6RPg-00281-00064129-00064296 necessary to develop this understanding +xqnHVz_6RPg-00282-00064297-00064491 it is not enough to remove our +xqnHVz_6RPg-00283-00064491-00064695 unskillful mental habits and deeply +xqnHVz_6RPg-00284-00064696-00064884 ingrained prejudices which require +xqnHVz_6RPg-00285-00064885-00065084 meditation paired with understanding +xqnHVz_6RPg-00286-00065085-00065328 according to the Buddha we need to train +xqnHVz_6RPg-00287-00065329-00065520 the mind in meditation to be able to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00288-00065521-00065736 truly see the nature of reality which is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00289-00065737-00065882 said to have the marks of suffering +xqnHVz_6RPg-00290-00065883-00066141 impermanence and not self understanding +xqnHVz_6RPg-00291-00066142-00066360 and meditation are said to work together +xqnHVz_6RPg-00292-00066361-00066603 to clearly see the personna the nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-00293-00066604-00066801 of human experience and this is said to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00294-00066802-00067234 lead to liberation +xqnHVz_6RPg-00295-00067235-00067704 topic anatta +xqnHVz_6RPg-00296-00067705-00067899 the Buddha argued that there is no +xqnHVz_6RPg-00297-00067900-00068142 permanent self no essence of a person or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00298-00068143-00068432 what makes me me this means there is no +xqnHVz_6RPg-00299-00068433-00068646 part of a person which is unchanging and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00300-00068647-00068853 essential for continuity it means that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00301-00068854-00069042 there is no individual part of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00302-00069043-00069249 person that accounts for the identity of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00303-00069250-00069569 that person over time this is in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00304-00069570-00069806 opposition to the upanishadic concept of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00305-00069807-00070017 an unchanging ultimate self in any view +xqnHVz_6RPg-00306-00070018-00070284 of an eternal soul the Buddha held that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00307-00070285-00070446 attachment to the appearance of a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00308-00070447-00070631 permanent self in this world of change +xqnHVz_6RPg-00309-00070632-00070806 is the cause of suffering and the main +xqnHVz_6RPg-00310-00070807-00071124 obstacle to liberation the most widely +xqnHVz_6RPg-00311-00071125-00071300 used argument that the Buddha employed +xqnHVz_6RPg-00312-00071301-00071541 against the idea of an unchanging ego as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00313-00071542-00071706 an empiricist one based on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00314-00071707-00071894 observation of the five aggregates that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00315-00071895-00072087 make up a person and the fact that these +xqnHVz_6RPg-00316-00072088-00072348 are always changing this argument can be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00317-00072349-00072650 put in this way all psycho physical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00318-00072651-00072888 processes skandhas are impermanent if +xqnHVz_6RPg-00319-00072889-00073143 there were a self it would be permanent +xqnHVz_6RPg-00320-00073144-00073356 IP there is no more to the person than +xqnHVz_6RPg-00321-00073357-00073650 the five skandhas there is no self this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00322-00073651-00073854 argument requires the implied premise +xqnHVz_6RPg-00323-00073855-00073994 that the five aggregates are an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00324-00073995-00074166 exhaustive account of what makes up a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00325-00074167-00074351 person or else the self could exist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00326-00074352-00074501 outside of these aggregates this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00327-00074502-00074700 argument is famously expounded in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00328-00074701-00074840 Anatole econo sutta +xqnHVz_6RPg-00329-00074841-00075036 according to this argument the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00330-00075037-00075225 apparently fixed self is merely the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00331-00075226-00075396 result of identification with the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00332-00075397-00075576 temporary aggregates the changing +xqnHVz_6RPg-00333-00075577-00075798 processes making up an individual human +xqnHVz_6RPg-00334-00075799-00076068 being in this view a person is only a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00335-00076069-00076263 convenient nominal designation on a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00336-00076264-00076443 certain grouping of processes and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00337-00076444-00076641 characteristics an individual is a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00338-00076642-00076860 conceptual construction overlaid upon a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00339-00076861-00077046 stream of experiences just like a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00340-00077047-00077226 chariot as merely a conventional +xqnHVz_6RPg-00341-00077227-00077424 designation for the parts of a chariot +xqnHVz_6RPg-00342-00077425-00077631 and how they are put together the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00343-00077632-00077790 foundation of this argument is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00344-00077791-00077997 empiricist for it is based on the fact +xqnHVz_6RPg-00345-00077998-00078192 that all we observe is subject to change +xqnHVz_6RPg-00346-00078193-00078390 especially everything observed when +xqnHVz_6RPg-00347-00078391-00078591 looking inwardly in meditation another +xqnHVz_6RPg-00348-00078592-00078818 argument for non-self the argument from +xqnHVz_6RPg-00349-00078819-00079013 lack of control and it is based on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00350-00079014-00079176 fact that we often seek to change +xqnHVz_6RPg-00351-00079177-00079353 certain parts of ourselves that the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00352-00079354-00079550 executive function of the mind is that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00353-00079551-00079681 which finds certain things +xqnHVz_6RPg-00354-00079682-00079868 unsatisfactory and attempts to alter +xqnHVz_6RPg-00355-00079869-00080150 them furthermore it is also based on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00356-00080151-00080393 Indian anti reflexivity principle which +xqnHVz_6RPg-00357-00080394-00080606 states an entity cannot operate on or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00358-00080607-00080781 control itself a knife can cut other +xqnHVz_6RPg-00359-00080782-00081012 things but not itself a finger can point +xqnHVz_6RPg-00360-00081013-00081090 at other things +xqnHVz_6RPg-00361-00081091-00081399 but not at itself etc this means then +xqnHVz_6RPg-00362-00081400-00081570 that the self could never desire to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00363-00081571-00081771 change itself and could not do so the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00364-00081772-00081957 Buddha uses this idea to attack the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00365-00081958-00082218 concept of self this argument could be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00366-00082219-00082533 structured thus if the self existed it +xqnHVz_6RPg-00367-00082534-00082680 would be the part of the person that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00368-00082681-00082872 performs the executive function the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00369-00082873-00083238 controller the self could never desire +xqnHVz_6RPg-00370-00083239-00083421 that it be changed anti reflexivity +xqnHVz_6RPg-00371-00083422-00083721 principle each of the five kinds of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00372-00083722-00083934 psychophysical element as such that one +xqnHVz_6RPg-00373-00083935-00084165 can desire that it be changed IP there +xqnHVz_6RPg-00374-00084166-00084333 is no more to the person than the five +xqnHVz_6RPg-00375-00084334-00084651 skandhas there is no self this argument +xqnHVz_6RPg-00376-00084652-00084810 then denies that there is one permanent +xqnHVz_6RPg-00377-00084811-00085131 controller in the person instead it +xqnHVz_6RPg-00378-00085132-00085329 views the person as a set of constantly +xqnHVz_6RPg-00379-00085330-00085503 changing processes which include +xqnHVz_6RPg-00380-00085504-00085704 volitional events seeking change and an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00381-00085705-00085907 awareness of that desire for change +xqnHVz_6RPg-00382-00085908-00086217 according to Marx iterance what the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00383-00086218-00086376 Buddhist has in mind is that on one +xqnHVz_6RPg-00384-00086377-00086589 occasion one part of the person might +xqnHVz_6RPg-00385-00086590-00086763 perform the executive function on +xqnHVz_6RPg-00386-00086764-00086958 another occasion another part might do +xqnHVz_6RPg-00387-00086959-00087240 so this would make it possible for every +xqnHVz_6RPg-00388-00087241-00087411 part to be subject to control without +xqnHVz_6RPg-00389-00087412-00087603 there being any part that always fills +xqnHVz_6RPg-00390-00087604-00087789 the role of controller and so is the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00391-00087790-00087831 self +xqnHVz_6RPg-00392-00087832-00088098 on some occasions a given part might +xqnHVz_6RPg-00393-00088099-00088275 fall on the controller side while on +xqnHVz_6RPg-00394-00088276-00088431 other occasions it might fall on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00395-00088432-00088683 side of the control this would explain +xqnHVz_6RPg-00396-00088684-00088869 how it's possible for us to seek to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00397-00088870-00089031 change any of the skandhas while there +xqnHVz_6RPg-00398-00089032-00089193 is nothing more to us than just those +xqnHVz_6RPg-00399-00089194-00089514 skandhas as noted by kr Norman and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00400-00089515-00089718 Richard Gombrich the Buddha extended his +xqnHVz_6RPg-00401-00089719-00089889 anatta critique to the Brahmanical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00402-00089890-00090051 belief expounded in the brihadaranyaka +xqnHVz_6RPg-00403-00090052-00090342 upanishad that the self Atman was indeed +xqnHVz_6RPg-00404-00090343-00090603 the whole world or Brahman this is shown +xqnHVz_6RPg-00405-00090604-00090756 by the allagadda PHA masada +xqnHVz_6RPg-00406-00090757-00090900 where the buddha argues that an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00407-00090901-00091080 individual cannot experience the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00408-00091081-00091332 suffering of the entire world he used +xqnHVz_6RPg-00409-00091333-00091554 the example of someone carrying off and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00410-00091555-00091728 burning grass and sticks from the Yetta +xqnHVz_6RPg-00411-00091729-00091923 grove and how a monk would not censor +xqnHVz_6RPg-00412-00091924-00092085 consider themselves harmed by that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00413-00092086-00092343 action in this example the buddha is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00414-00092344-00092496 arguing that we do not have direct +xqnHVz_6RPg-00415-00092497-00092727 experience of the entire world and hence +xqnHVz_6RPg-00416-00092728-00092916 the self cannot be the whole world in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00417-00092917-00093174 this sutta as well as in the soda sutta +xqnHVz_6RPg-00418-00093175-00093372 the buddha outlines six wrong views +xqnHVz_6RPg-00419-00093373-00093717 about self there are six wrong views an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00420-00093718-00093975 unwise untrained person may think of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00421-00093976-00094248 body this is mine this is me this is my +xqnHVz_6RPg-00422-00094249-00094467 self he may think that of feelings +xqnHVz_6RPg-00423-00094468-00094722 of perceptions of elisions or of what +xqnHVz_6RPg-00424-00094723-00094932 has been seen heard thought cognized +xqnHVz_6RPg-00425-00094933-00095201 reached sought or considered by the mind +xqnHVz_6RPg-00426-00095202-00095505 the sixth is - identified the world and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00427-00095506-00095751 self to believe at death I shall become +xqnHVz_6RPg-00428-00095752-00096030 permanent eternal unchanging and so +xqnHVz_6RPg-00429-00096031-00096243 remained forever the same and that is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00430-00096244-00096516 mine that is me that is myself a wise +xqnHVz_6RPg-00431-00096517-00096729 and well-trained person sees that all +xqnHVz_6RPg-00432-00096730-00096944 these positions are wrong and so he is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00433-00096945-00097128 not worried about something that does +xqnHVz_6RPg-00434-00097129-00097325 not exist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00435-00097326-00097569 furthermore the Buddha argues that the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00436-00097570-00097728 world can be observed to be a cause of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00437-00097729-00097896 suffering Brahman was held to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00438-00097897-00098085 ultimately blissful and that since we +xqnHVz_6RPg-00439-00098086-00098276 cannot control the world as we wish the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00440-00098277-00098559 world cannot be the self the idea that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00441-00098560-00098894 this cosmos as the self is one of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00442-00098895-00099084 views rejected by the Buddha along with +xqnHVz_6RPg-00443-00099085-00099263 the related monistic theory that held +xqnHVz_6RPg-00444-00099264-00099563 that everything is a oneness s and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00445-00099564-00099762 twelve point four eight located eco +xqnHVz_6RPg-00446-00099763-00099954 sutta the buddha also held that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00447-00099955-00100143 understanding and seeing the truth of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00448-00100144-00100362 not self led to unattach mminton hence +xqnHVz_6RPg-00449-00100363-00100526 to the cessation of suffering while +xqnHVz_6RPg-00450-00100527-00100671 ignorant about the true nature of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00451-00100672-00101204 personality led to further suffering +xqnHVz_6RPg-00452-00101205-00101665 topic epistemology +xqnHVz_6RPg-00453-00101666-00101849 all schools of Indian philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-00454-00101850-00102085 recognize various sets of valid +xqnHVz_6RPg-00455-00102086-00102280 justifications for knowledge or pramana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00456-00102281-00102486 and many see the Vedas as providing +xqnHVz_6RPg-00457-00102488-00102748 access to truth the Buddha denied the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00458-00102749-00102915 authority of the Vedas the like his +xqnHVz_6RPg-00459-00102916-00103068 contemporaries he affirmed the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00460-00103069-00103276 soteriological importance of having a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00461-00103277-00103479 proper understanding of reality right +xqnHVz_6RPg-00462-00103480-00103777 view however this understanding was not +xqnHVz_6RPg-00463-00103778-00104007 conceived primarily as metaphysical and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00464-00104008-00104173 cosmological knowledge but as a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00465-00104174-00104361 knowledge into the arising and cessation +xqnHVz_6RPg-00466-00104363-00104574 of suffering and human experience +xqnHVz_6RPg-00467-00104575-00104857 therefore the Buddha's epistemic project +xqnHVz_6RPg-00468-00104858-00104979 is different than that of modern +xqnHVz_6RPg-00469-00104980-00105244 philosophy it is primarily a solution to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00470-00105245-00105406 the fundamental human spiritual +xqnHVz_6RPg-00471-00105407-00105690 existential problem the Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00472-00105691-00105871 epistemology has been compared to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00473-00105872-00106063 empiricism in the sense that it was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00474-00106064-00106254 based on experience of the world through +xqnHVz_6RPg-00475-00106255-00106479 the senses the Buddha taught that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00476-00106480-00106677 empirical observation through the sixth +xqnHVz_6RPg-00477-00106678-00106888 sense fields i autonomous was the proper +xqnHVz_6RPg-00478-00106889-00107084 way of verifying any knowledge claims +xqnHVz_6RPg-00479-00107085-00107409 some suttas go further stating that the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00480-00107410-00107701 all or everything that exists saben are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00481-00107702-00108084 these $0.06 fears SN 35.2 three sabu +xqnHVz_6RPg-00482-00108085-00108252 sutta and that anyone who attempts to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00483-00108253-00108528 describe another all will be unable to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00484-00108529-00108898 do so because it lies beyond range this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00485-00108899-00109077 sutta seems to indicate that for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00486-00109078-00109258 buddha things in themselves are noumena +xqnHVz_6RPg-00487-00109258-00109450 are beyond our epistemological reach +xqnHVz_6RPg-00488-00109451-00109541 Avice ayah +xqnHVz_6RPg-00489-00109542-00109791 furthermore in the Kalama sudde the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00490-00109792-00109951 buddha tells a group of confused +xqnHVz_6RPg-00491-00109952-00110158 villagers that the only proper reason +xqnHVz_6RPg-00492-00110158-00110356 for one's beliefs is verification in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00493-00110357-00110548 one's own personal experience and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00494-00110549-00110752 experience of the wise and denies any +xqnHVz_6RPg-00495-00110753-00110964 verification which stems from personal +xqnHVz_6RPg-00496-00110965-00111214 authority sacred tradition and Asafa or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00497-00111215-00111435 any kind of rationalism which constructs +xqnHVz_6RPg-00498-00111436-00111727 metaphysical theories taka in the TV +xqnHVz_6RPg-00499-00111728-00112000 josiah DN 13 the buddha rejects the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00500-00112001-00112191 personal authority of brahmins because +xqnHVz_6RPg-00501-00112192-00112329 none of them can prove they have had +xqnHVz_6RPg-00502-00112330-00112518 personal experience of brahman the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00503-00112519-00112803 buddha also stressed that experience is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00504-00112804-00113023 the only criterion for verification of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00505-00113024-00113184 the truth in this passage from the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00506-00113185-00113281 majima nakiya +xqnHVz_6RPg-00507-00113282-00113739 mn 0.265 monks do you only speak that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00508-00113740-00113934 which is known by yourselves seen by +xqnHVz_6RPg-00509-00113935-00114308 yourselves found by yourselves +xqnHVz_6RPg-00510-00114308-00114610 yes we do sir +xqnHVz_6RPg-00511-00114611-00114874 good monks that is how you have been +xqnHVz_6RPg-00512-00114875-00115060 instructed by me in this timeless +xqnHVz_6RPg-00513-00115061-00115255 doctrine which can be realized and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00514-00115256-00115495 verified that leads to the goal and can +xqnHVz_6RPg-00515-00115496-00115630 be understood by those who are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00516-00115631-00115936 intelligent furthermore the Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00517-00115937-00116155 standard for personal verification was a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00518-00116156-00116365 pragmatic and salvific one for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00519-00116366-00116563 Buddha a belief counts as truth only if +xqnHVz_6RPg-00520-00116564-00116770 it leads to successful Buddhist practice +xqnHVz_6RPg-00521-00116771-00116965 and hence to the destruction of craving +xqnHVz_6RPg-00522-00116966-00117378 in the discourse to Prince abaya MN +xqnHVz_6RPg-00523-00117379-00117661 0.392 - for the Buddha states this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00524-00117662-00117877 pragmatic Maxim by saying that a belief +xqnHVz_6RPg-00525-00117878-00118060 should only be accepted if it leads to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00526-00118061-00118330 wholesome consequences this tendency of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00527-00118331-00118513 the Buddha to see what is true is what +xqnHVz_6RPg-00528-00118514-00118720 was useful or what works has been called +xqnHVz_6RPg-00529-00118721-00118939 by scholars such as mrs. Reese David's +xqnHVz_6RPg-00530-00118940-00119163 and ballet pusun a form of pragmatism +xqnHVz_6RPg-00531-00119164-00119488 however KNG italic argues the buddha's +xqnHVz_6RPg-00532-00119489-00119713 epistemology can also be taken to be a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00533-00119714-00119935 form of correspondence theory as per the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00534-00119936-00120160 Abenaki sutta with elements of coherent +xqnHVz_6RPg-00535-00120161-00120316 ism and that for the buddha it is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00536-00120317-00120505 causally impossible for something which +xqnHVz_6RPg-00537-00120506-00120661 is false to lead to cessation of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00538-00120662-00120904 suffering and evil the Buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-00539-00120905-00121090 discouraged his followers from indulging +xqnHVz_6RPg-00540-00121091-00121315 an intellectual disputation for its own +xqnHVz_6RPg-00541-00121316-00121525 sake which is fruitless and distracts +xqnHVz_6RPg-00542-00121526-00121768 one from the goal of awakening only +xqnHVz_6RPg-00543-00121769-00121954 philosophy and discussion which has +xqnHVz_6RPg-00544-00121955-00122140 pragmatic value for liberation from +xqnHVz_6RPg-00545-00122141-00122428 suffering as seen as important according +xqnHVz_6RPg-00546-00122429-00122578 to the scriptures during his lifetime +xqnHVz_6RPg-00547-00122579-00122782 the Buddha remained silent when asked +xqnHVz_6RPg-00548-00122783-00122980 several metaphysical questions which he +xqnHVz_6RPg-00549-00122981-00123199 regarded as the basis for unwise +xqnHVz_6RPg-00550-00123200-00123502 reflection these unanswered questions +xqnHVz_6RPg-00551-00123503-00123727 avocado regarded issues such as whether +xqnHVz_6RPg-00552-00123728-00123949 the universe is eternal or non eternal +xqnHVz_6RPg-00553-00123950-00124159 or whether it is finite or infinite the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00554-00124160-00124372 unity or separation of the body and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00555-00124373-00124564 self the complete in existence of a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00556-00124565-00124744 person after Nirvana and death and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00557-00124745-00124999 others the Buddha stated that thinking +xqnHVz_6RPg-00558-00125000-00125179 about these imponderable as Cintia +xqnHVz_6RPg-00559-00125180-00125425 issues led to a thicket of views a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00560-00125426-00125650 wilderness of views a contortion of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00561-00125651-00126034 views arriving of views a federal use +xqnHVz_6RPg-00562-00126035-00126350 aggi vaca gotta sutta one explanation +xqnHVz_6RPg-00563-00126351-00126551 for this pragmatic suspension of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00564-00126552-00126760 judgment or epistemic epic a is that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00565-00126761-00126974 such questions distract from activity +xqnHVz_6RPg-00566-00126975-00127115 that is practical to realizing +xqnHVz_6RPg-00567-00127116-00127316 enlightenment and bring about the danger +xqnHVz_6RPg-00568-00127317-00127490 of substituting the experience of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00569-00127491-00127708 liberation by conceptual understanding +xqnHVz_6RPg-00570-00127709-00127911 of the doctrine or by religious faith +xqnHVz_6RPg-00571-00127913-00128134 according to the Buddha the Dharma is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00572-00128135-00128335 not an ultimate end in itself or an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00573-00128336-00128560 explanation of all metaphysical reality +xqnHVz_6RPg-00574-00128561-00128825 but a pragmatic set of teachings the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00575-00128826-00129038 Buddha used two parables to clarify this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00576-00129039-00129239 point the parable of the raft and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00577-00129240-00129508 parable of the poisoned arrow the Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00578-00129509-00129685 is a like a raft in the sense that it is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00579-00129686-00129886 only a pragmatic tool for attaining +xqnHVz_6RPg-00580-00129888-00130121 Nirvana for the purpose of crossing over +xqnHVz_6RPg-00581-00130122-00130457 not for the purpose of holding on to em +xqnHVz_6RPg-00582-00130458-00130735 and 22 once one has done this one can +xqnHVz_6RPg-00583-00130736-00130982 discard the raft it is also like +xqnHVz_6RPg-00584-00130983-00131191 medicine in that the particulars of how +xqnHVz_6RPg-00585-00131192-00131399 one was injured by a poisoned arrow ie +xqnHVz_6RPg-00586-00131400-00131740 metaphysics etc do not matter in the act +xqnHVz_6RPg-00587-00131741-00131933 of removing and curing the arrow wound +xqnHVz_6RPg-00588-00131934-00132206 itself removing suffering in this sense +xqnHVz_6RPg-00589-00132207-00132379 the Buddha was often called the great +xqnHVz_6RPg-00590-00132380-00132565 physician because his goal was to cure +xqnHVz_6RPg-00591-00132566-00132752 the human condition of suffering first +xqnHVz_6RPg-00592-00132753-00132940 and foremost not to speculate about +xqnHVz_6RPg-00593-00132941-00133178 metaphysics having said this it is still +xqnHVz_6RPg-00594-00133179-00133390 clear that resisting even refuting a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00595-00133391-00133610 false or slanted doctrine can be useful +xqnHVz_6RPg-00596-00133611-00133832 to extricate the interlocutor or oneself +xqnHVz_6RPg-00597-00133833-00134036 from error hence to advance in the way +xqnHVz_6RPg-00598-00134037-00134273 of liberation witness the Buddha's +xqnHVz_6RPg-00599-00134274-00134474 confute a ssin of several doctrines by +xqnHVz_6RPg-00600-00134475-00134690 nigantha nepata and other purported +xqnHVz_6RPg-00601-00134691-00134870 sages which sometimes had large +xqnHVz_6RPg-00602-00134871-00135083 followings eg Kula sutta +xqnHVz_6RPg-00603-00135084-00135368 Sanka sutta Brahman asada this shows +xqnHVz_6RPg-00604-00135369-00135560 that a virtuous and appropriate use of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00605-00135561-00135872 dialectics can take place by implication +xqnHVz_6RPg-00606-00135873-00136061 reasoning an argument shouldn't be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00607-00136062-00136349 disparaged by Buddhists after the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00608-00136350-00136528 Buddha's death some Buddhists such as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00609-00136529-00136721 Dharma Kirti went on to use the sayings +xqnHVz_6RPg-00610-00136722-00136915 of the Buddha as sound evidence equal to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00611-00136916-00137353 perception and inference +xqnHVz_6RPg-00612-00137354-00137854 topic transcendence +xqnHVz_6RPg-00613-00137855-00138085 another possible reason why the Buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-00614-00138086-00138316 refused to engage in metaphysics is that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00615-00138317-00138526 he saw ultimate reality in Nirvana as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00616-00138527-00138709 devoid of sensory mediation and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00617-00138710-00138907 conception and therefore language itself +xqnHVz_6RPg-00618-00138908-00139129 as a priori inadequate to explain it +xqnHVz_6RPg-00619-00139130-00139363 thus the Buddhist silence does not +xqnHVz_6RPg-00620-00139364-00139555 indicate mythology or disdain for +xqnHVz_6RPg-00621-00139556-00139849 philosophy rather it indicates that he +xqnHVz_6RPg-00622-00139850-00140023 viewed the answers to these questions as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00623-00140024-00140241 not understandable by the unenlightened +xqnHVz_6RPg-00624-00140242-00140476 dependent arising provides a framework +xqnHVz_6RPg-00625-00140477-00140683 for analysis of reality that is not +xqnHVz_6RPg-00626-00140684-00140875 based on metaphysical assumptions +xqnHVz_6RPg-00627-00140876-00141109 regarding existence or non-existence but +xqnHVz_6RPg-00628-00141110-00141337 instead on imagining direct cognition of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00629-00141338-00141511 phenomena as they are presented to the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00630-00141512-00141811 mind in yogic meditation the buddha of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00631-00141812-00142015 the earliest buddhists text describes +xqnHVz_6RPg-00632-00142016-00142366 dharma in the sense of truth as beyond +xqnHVz_6RPg-00633-00142367-00142759 reasoning or transcending logic in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00634-00142760-00142948 sense that reasoning is a subjectively +xqnHVz_6RPg-00635-00142949-00143107 introduced aspect of the way +xqnHVz_6RPg-00636-00143108-00143323 unenlightened humans perceive things and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00637-00143324-00143533 the conceptual framework which underpins +xqnHVz_6RPg-00638-00143534-00143728 their cognitive process rather than a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00639-00143729-00143907 feature of things as they really are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00640-00143908-00144244 going beyond reasoning means in this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00641-00144245-00144424 context penetrating the nature of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00642-00144425-00144625 reasoning from the inside and removing +xqnHVz_6RPg-00643-00144626-00144823 the causes for experiencing any future +xqnHVz_6RPg-00644-00144824-00144997 stress as a result of it rather than +xqnHVz_6RPg-00645-00144998-00145168 functioning outside the system as a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00646-00145169-00145480 whole +xqnHVz_6RPg-00647-00145481-00145986 topic meta ethics +xqnHVz_6RPg-00648-00145987-00146193 the Buddha's ethics are based on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00649-00146194-00146352 soteriological need to eliminate +xqnHVz_6RPg-00650-00146353-00146550 suffering and on the premise of the law +xqnHVz_6RPg-00651-00146551-00146793 of karma Buddhist ethics have been +xqnHVz_6RPg-00652-00146794-00146955 termed eudaimonic with their goal being +xqnHVz_6RPg-00653-00146956-00147156 well-being and also compared to virtue +xqnHVz_6RPg-00654-00147157-00147381 ethics this approach began with damien +xqnHVz_6RPg-00655-00147382-00147636 qian qian writes that Buddhist nirvana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00656-00147637-00147810 is analogous to the Aristotelian +xqnHVz_6RPg-00657-00147811-00148038 eudaimonia and that Buddhist moral acts +xqnHVz_6RPg-00658-00148039-00148239 and virtues derive their value from how +xqnHVz_6RPg-00659-00148240-00148428 they lead us to or act as an aspect of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00660-00148429-00148713 the nirvanic life the Buddha outlined +xqnHVz_6RPg-00661-00148714-00149001 five precepts no killing stealing sexual +xqnHVz_6RPg-00662-00149002-00149202 misconduct lying or drinking alcohol +xqnHVz_6RPg-00663-00149203-00149379 which were to be followed by his +xqnHVz_6RPg-00664-00149380-00149643 disciples lay in monastic there are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00665-00149644-00149838 various reasons the Buddha gave as to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00666-00149839-00150150 why someone should be ethical first the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00667-00150151-00150318 universe is structured in such a way +xqnHVz_6RPg-00668-00150319-00150522 that if someone intentionally commits a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00669-00150523-00150735 misdeed a bad karmic fruit will be the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00670-00150736-00151008 result and vice versa hence from a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00671-00151009-00151212 pragmatic point of view it is best to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00672-00151213-00151389 abstain from these negative actions +xqnHVz_6RPg-00673-00151390-00151569 which bring forth negative results +xqnHVz_6RPg-00674-00151570-00151818 however the important word here is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00675-00151819-00152013 intentionally for the Buddha karma is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00676-00152014-00152226 nothing else but intention volition and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00677-00152227-00152424 hence unintentionally harming someone +xqnHVz_6RPg-00678-00152425-00152628 does not create bad karmic results +xqnHVz_6RPg-00679-00152629-00152895 unlike the Janes who believed that karma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00680-00152896-00153093 was a quasi physical element for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00681-00153094-00153279 Buddha karma was a volitional mental +xqnHVz_6RPg-00682-00153280-00153474 event what Richard Gombrich calls an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00683-00153475-00153774 ethicist consciousness this idea leads +xqnHVz_6RPg-00684-00153775-00153990 into the second moral justification of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00685-00153991-00154176 the Buddha intentionally performing +xqnHVz_6RPg-00686-00154177-00154380 negative actions reinforces and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00687-00154381-00154584 propagates mental defilements which keep +xqnHVz_6RPg-00688-00154585-00154764 persons bound to the cycle of rebirth +xqnHVz_6RPg-00689-00154765-00154956 and interfere with the process of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00690-00154957-00155136 liberation and hence intentionally +xqnHVz_6RPg-00691-00155137-00155316 performing good karmic actions as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00692-00155317-00155532 participating in mental purification +xqnHVz_6RPg-00693-00155533-00155706 which leads to Nirvana the highest +xqnHVz_6RPg-00694-00155707-00155997 happiness this perspective sees immoral +xqnHVz_6RPg-00695-00155998-00156207 acts as unskillful Akoo sila in our +xqnHVz_6RPg-00696-00156208-00156387 quest for happiness and hence it is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00697-00156388-00156675 pragmatic to do good the third meta +xqnHVz_6RPg-00698-00156676-00156888 ethical consideration takes the view of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00699-00156889-00157101 not self and our natural desire to end +xqnHVz_6RPg-00700-00157102-00157298 our suffering to its logical conclusion +xqnHVz_6RPg-00701-00157299-00157545 since there is no self there is no +xqnHVz_6RPg-00702-00157546-00157731 reason to prefer our own welfare over +xqnHVz_6RPg-00703-00157732-00157878 that of others because there is no +xqnHVz_6RPg-00704-00157879-00157993 ultimate grounding for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00705-00157994-00158274 differentiation of my suffering and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00706-00158275-00158502 someone else's instead an enlightened +xqnHVz_6RPg-00707-00158503-00158664 person would just work to end suffering +xqnHVz_6RPg-00708-00158665-00158823 toute court without thinking of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00709-00158824-00159023 conventional concept of persons +xqnHVz_6RPg-00710-00159024-00159288 according to this argument anyone who is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00711-00159289-00159385 selfish to so +xqnHVz_6RPg-00712-00159386-00159535 out of ignorance of the true nature of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00713-00159536-00160121 personal identity and irrationality +xqnHVz_6RPg-00714-00160122-00160564 topic abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00715-00160565-00160816 the main Indian Buddhist philosophical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00716-00160817-00161017 schools practiced a form of analysis +xqnHVz_6RPg-00717-00161018-00161113 termed abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00718-00161114-00161236 which sought to systematize the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00719-00161237-00161395 teachings of the early Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00720-00161396-00161722 discourses sutras abhidharma analysis +xqnHVz_6RPg-00721-00161723-00161905 broke down human experience into +xqnHVz_6RPg-00722-00161906-00162079 momentary phenomenal events or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00723-00162080-00162184 occurrences called +xqnHVz_6RPg-00724-00162185-00162484 Darla's Dharma's are impermanent and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00725-00162485-00162688 dependent on other causal factors they +xqnHVz_6RPg-00726-00162689-00162901 arise and pass as part of a web of other +xqnHVz_6RPg-00727-00162902-00163075 interconnected Dharma's and are never +xqnHVz_6RPg-00728-00163076-00163363 found alone the abhidharma schools held +xqnHVz_6RPg-00729-00163364-00163516 that the teachings of the Buddha in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00730-00163517-00163711 sutras were merely conventional while +xqnHVz_6RPg-00731-00163712-00163900 the abhidharma analysis was ultimate +xqnHVz_6RPg-00732-00163901-00164104 truth Paramatma Sakka the way things +xqnHVz_6RPg-00733-00164105-00164275 really are when seen by an enlightened +xqnHVz_6RPg-00734-00164276-00164545 being the abhidharma project has been +xqnHVz_6RPg-00735-00164546-00164755 likened as a form of phenomenology or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00736-00164756-00164998 processed philosophy abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00737-00164999-00165214 philosophers not only outlined what they +xqnHVz_6RPg-00738-00165215-00165397 believed to be an exhaustive listing of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00739-00165398-00165595 dharmas or phenomenal events but also +xqnHVz_6RPg-00740-00165596-00165886 the causal relations between them in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00741-00165887-00166009 abhidharma Canales +xqnHVz_6RPg-00742-00166010-00166207 the only thing which is ultimately real +xqnHVz_6RPg-00743-00166208-00166423 as the interplay of dharmas in a causal +xqnHVz_6RPg-00744-00166424-00166591 stream everything else is merely +xqnHVz_6RPg-00745-00166592-00166918 conceptual upon yachty and nominal this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00746-00166919-00167158 view has been termed Mary illogical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00747-00167159-00167434 reductionism by Marx iterates because it +xqnHVz_6RPg-00748-00167435-00167641 holds that only impart identities are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00749-00167642-00167775 real not wholes +xqnHVz_6RPg-00750-00167776-00168025 abhidharma cos such as Vasa bandeau +xqnHVz_6RPg-00751-00168026-00168238 argued that conventional things tables +xqnHVz_6RPg-00752-00168239-00168592 persons etc disappear under analysis and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00753-00168593-00168865 that this analysis reveals only a causal +xqnHVz_6RPg-00754-00168866-00169033 stream of phenomenal events and their +xqnHVz_6RPg-00755-00169034-00169315 relations the mainstream abhidharma cos +xqnHVz_6RPg-00756-00169316-00169486 defended this view against their main +xqnHVz_6RPg-00757-00169487-00169702 hindu rivals the Naya school who are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00758-00169703-00169882 substance theorists and posited the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00759-00169883-00170170 existence of universals some abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00760-00170171-00170413 cos such as the prajapita vada were also +xqnHVz_6RPg-00761-00170414-00170602 strict nominalist and held that all +xqnHVz_6RPg-00762-00170603-00170758 things even Dharma's were merely +xqnHVz_6RPg-00763-00170759-00171100 conceptual +xqnHVz_6RPg-00764-00171101-00171684 topic competing abhidharma schools +xqnHVz_6RPg-00765-00171685-00171906 an important abhidhamma work from the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00766-00171907-00172170 Theravada school as the cavity Oh points +xqnHVz_6RPg-00767-00172171-00172419 of controversy by the scholar monk +xqnHVz_6RPg-00768-00172420-00172671 magalie Pettit is a CA point three to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00769-00172672-00173124 seven to 247 BCE this text is important +xqnHVz_6RPg-00770-00173125-00173301 because it attempts to refute several +xqnHVz_6RPg-00771-00173302-00173469 philosophical views which had developed +xqnHVz_6RPg-00772-00173470-00173703 after the death of the Buddha especially +xqnHVz_6RPg-00773-00173704-00173931 the theory that all exists Sarvis Nevada +xqnHVz_6RPg-00774-00173932-00174159 the theory of momentariness kana vada +xqnHVz_6RPg-00775-00174160-00174324 and the personalist view pledged +xqnHVz_6RPg-00776-00174325-00174456 eluveitie these were the major +xqnHVz_6RPg-00777-00174457-00174675 philosophical theories which divided the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00778-00174676-00174863 Buddhist abhidharma schools in India +xqnHVz_6RPg-00779-00174864-00175125 after being brought to sri lanka in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00780-00175126-00175386 1st century BCE the Theravada pali +xqnHVz_6RPg-00781-00175387-00175575 language abhidhamma tradition was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00782-00175576-00175740 heavily influenced by the works of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00783-00175741-00176043 buddha Gosa 4 to 5 th century a.d the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00784-00176044-00176214 most important philosopher and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00785-00176215-00176481 commentator of the Theravada school the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00786-00176482-00176706 Theravada philosophical Enterprise was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00787-00176707-00176871 mostly carried out in the genre of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00788-00176872-00177117 Ithaca the commentaries as well as sub +xqnHVz_6RPg-00789-00177118-00177342 commentaries on the Pali abhidhamma but +xqnHVz_6RPg-00790-00177343-00177504 also included short summaries in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00791-00177505-00177834 compendiums the Sarvis nevada was one of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00792-00177835-00178038 the major buddhist philosophical schools +xqnHVz_6RPg-00793-00178039-00178212 in india and they were so named because +xqnHVz_6RPg-00794-00178213-00178413 of their belief that Dharma's exists in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00795-00178414-00178644 all 3 times past present and future +xqnHVz_6RPg-00796-00178645-00178875 though the Sarvis Nevada abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00797-00178876-00179133 system began as a mere categorization of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00798-00179134-00179328 mental events their philosophers and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00799-00179329-00179550 exegetes such as Dharma trata and catchy +xqnHVz_6RPg-00800-00179551-00179748 Ani Putra the compiler of the Mohave +xqnHVz_6RPg-00801-00179749-00179943 basa a central text of the school +xqnHVz_6RPg-00802-00179944-00180150 eventually refined this system into a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00803-00180151-00180366 robust realism which also included a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00804-00180367-00180639 type of essentialism this realism was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00805-00180640-00180849 based on a quality of darkness which was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00806-00180850-00181097 called svabhava or intrinsic existence +xqnHVz_6RPg-00807-00181098-00181371 swab Alva is a sort of essence though it +xqnHVz_6RPg-00808-00181372-00181569 is not a completely independent essence +xqnHVz_6RPg-00809-00181570-00181719 since all Dharma's were said to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00810-00181720-00181986 causally dependent the Sarvis Nevada +xqnHVz_6RPg-00811-00181987-00182223 system extended this realism across time +xqnHVz_6RPg-00812-00182224-00182385 effectively positing the type of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00813-00182386-00182607 eternalism with regards to time hence +xqnHVz_6RPg-00814-00182608-00182817 the name of their school means the view +xqnHVz_6RPg-00815-00182818-00183111 that everything exists other Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-00816-00183112-00183303 schools such as the progeny pivot ins +xqnHVz_6RPg-00817-00183304-00183510 nominalist s-- the Purvis sail is in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00818-00183511-00183690 vein of seekers refused to accept the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00819-00183691-00183975 concept of svabhava the main topic of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00820-00183976-00184203 the tattva City sastra by Hera vermin 3 +xqnHVz_6RPg-00821-00184204-00184476 - 4 th century AD an influential +xqnHVz_6RPg-00822-00184477-00184671 abhidharma text is the emptiness +xqnHVz_6RPg-00823-00184672-00184911 Shunyata of dharmas the theravadin x' +xqnHVz_6RPg-00824-00184912-00185046 and other schools such as the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00825-00185047-00185238 Sauder Antigua's attacked the realism of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00826-00185239-00185424 the Sarvis dividends especially their +xqnHVz_6RPg-00827-00185425-00185697 theory of time a major figure in this +xqnHVz_6RPg-00828-00185698-00185925 argument was the scholar Vasa bandeau an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00829-00185926-00186104 ex Arvest dividend who critiqued the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00830-00186105-00186294 theory of all exists and argued for +xqnHVz_6RPg-00831-00186295-00186489 philosophical present ism in his +xqnHVz_6RPg-00832-00186490-00186663 comprehensive treatise the abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00833-00186664-00186948 cosa this work is the major abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00834-00186949-00187158 text used in Tibetan and East Asian +xqnHVz_6RPg-00835-00187159-00187466 Buddhism today the Theravada also holds +xqnHVz_6RPg-00836-00187467-00187623 that Dharma's only exists in the present +xqnHVz_6RPg-00837-00187624-00187908 and are thus also presentist the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00838-00187909-00188121 theravadin presentation of abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00839-00188122-00188313 is also not as concerned with ontology +xqnHVz_6RPg-00840-00188314-00188535 as the Sarvis dividend view but as more +xqnHVz_6RPg-00841-00188536-00188745 of a phenomenology and hence the concept +xqnHVz_6RPg-00842-00188746-00188958 of svabhava for the theravadin zazz more +xqnHVz_6RPg-00843-00188959-00189168 of a certain characteristic or dependent +xqnHVz_6RPg-00844-00189169-00189348 feature of a dharma than any sort of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00845-00189349-00189533 essence or metaphysical grounding +xqnHVz_6RPg-00846-00189534-00189882 according to why Karen Odyssey in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00847-00189883-00190074 Pali tradition it is only for the sake +xqnHVz_6RPg-00848-00190075-00190265 of definition and description that each +xqnHVz_6RPg-00849-00190266-00190458 Dhamma is postulated as if it were a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00850-00190459-00190689 separate entity but in reality it is by +xqnHVz_6RPg-00851-00190690-00190926 no means a solitary phenomenon having an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00852-00190927-00191144 existence of its own +xqnHVz_6RPg-00853-00191145-00191369 if this abhidhamma key you of existence +xqnHVz_6RPg-00854-00191370-00191552 as seen from its doctrine of Damas +xqnHVz_6RPg-00855-00191553-00191720 cannot be interpreted as a radical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00856-00191721-00191948 pluralism neither can it be interpreted +xqnHVz_6RPg-00857-00191949-00192182 as an out-and-out monism for what are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00858-00192183-00192386 called Damas the component factors of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00859-00192387-00192557 the universe both within us and outside +xqnHVz_6RPg-00860-00192558-00192770 us are not fractions of an absolute +xqnHVz_6RPg-00861-00192771-00192992 unity but a multiplicity of co-ordinate +xqnHVz_6RPg-00862-00192993-00193301 factors they are not reducible to nor do +xqnHVz_6RPg-00863-00193302-00193508 they emerge from a single reality the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00864-00193509-00193670 fundamental postulate of monistic +xqnHVz_6RPg-00865-00193671-00193880 metaphysics if they are to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00866-00193881-00194081 interpreted as phenomena this should be +xqnHVz_6RPg-00867-00194082-00194234 done with the proviso that they are +xqnHVz_6RPg-00868-00194235-00194432 phenomena with no corresponding demenna +xqnHVz_6RPg-00869-00194433-00194705 no hidden underlying ground for they're +xqnHVz_6RPg-00870-00194706-00194896 not manifestations of some mysterious +xqnHVz_6RPg-00871-00194897-00195146 metaphysical sub stratum but processes +xqnHVz_6RPg-00872-00195147-00195335 taking place due to the interplay of a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00873-00195336-00195632 multitude of conditions an important +xqnHVz_6RPg-00874-00195633-00195830 theory held by some Sarvis dividends +xqnHVz_6RPg-00875-00195831-00196022 theravadin x' and solder and e cos was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00876-00196023-00196409 the theory of momentariness SKT kassay +xqnHVz_6RPg-00877-00196410-00196502 Nevada Pauli +xqnHVz_6RPg-00878-00196503-00196757 Kahn Avada this theory held that Damas +xqnHVz_6RPg-00879-00196758-00197012 only lasts for a minute moment KSA na +xqnHVz_6RPg-00880-00197013-00197315 after they arise the Sarvis dividend saw +xqnHVz_6RPg-00881-00197316-00197537 these moments in an atomistic way as the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00882-00197538-00197723 smallest length of time possible they +xqnHVz_6RPg-00883-00197724-00197965 also developed a material atomism +xqnHVz_6RPg-00884-00197966-00198155 reconciling this theory with their +xqnHVz_6RPg-00885-00198156-00198359 eternal ism regarding time was a major +xqnHVz_6RPg-00886-00198360-00198566 philosophical project of the Sarvis +xqnHVz_6RPg-00887-00198567-00198818 tabata the theravadan x' initially +xqnHVz_6RPg-00888-00198819-00199022 rejected this theory as evidenced by the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00889-00199023-00199229 Kanaka coda of the katha Vasu which +xqnHVz_6RPg-00890-00199230-00199418 attempts to refute the doctrine that all +xqnHVz_6RPg-00891-00199419-00199736 phenomena gamma R as momentary as a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00892-00199737-00200005 single mental entity quote however +xqnHVz_6RPg-00893-00200006-00200261 momentariness was later adopted by the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00894-00200262-00200477 sri lankan theravadan x' and it is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00895-00200478-00200708 possible that it was first introduced by +xqnHVz_6RPg-00896-00200709-00200939 the scholar buddha Gosa all abhidharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00897-00200940-00201215 schools also developed complex theories +xqnHVz_6RPg-00898-00201216-00201434 of causation and conditionality to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00899-00201435-00201641 explain how Dharma's interacted with +xqnHVz_6RPg-00900-00201642-00201721 each other +xqnHVz_6RPg-00901-00201722-00202043 another major philosophical project of +xqnHVz_6RPg-00902-00202044-00202208 the abhidharma schools was the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00903-00202209-00202529 explanation of perception some schools +xqnHVz_6RPg-00904-00202530-00202760 such as the Sarvis dividends explained +xqnHVz_6RPg-00905-00202761-00202988 perception as a type of phenomena list +xqnHVz_6RPg-00906-00202989-00203198 realism while others such as the Sadr +xqnHVz_6RPg-00907-00203199-00203471 Antigua's preferred representational ISM +xqnHVz_6RPg-00908-00203472-00203681 and held that we only perceive objects +xqnHVz_6RPg-00909-00203682-00204020 indirectly the major argument used for +xqnHVz_6RPg-00910-00204021-00204289 this view by the Sadr Antigua's was that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00911-00204290-00204634 time lag argument quote according to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00912-00204635-00204923 marx iterance the basic idea behind the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00913-00204923-00205105 argument as that since there is always a +xqnHVz_6RPg-00914-00205106-00205330 tiny gap between when the sense comes in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00915-00205331-00205531 contact with the external object and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00916-00205532-00205708 when there is sensory awareness what we +xqnHVz_6RPg-00917-00205709-00205861 are aware of can't be the external +xqnHVz_6RPg-00918-00205862-00206051 object that the senses were in contact +xqnHVz_6RPg-00919-00206052-00206294 with since it no longer exists this is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00920-00206294-00206450 related to the theory of extreme +xqnHVz_6RPg-00921-00206451-00206788 momentariness one major philosophical +xqnHVz_6RPg-00922-00206789-00206959 view which was rejected by all the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00923-00206960-00207139 schools mentioned above was the view +xqnHVz_6RPg-00924-00207140-00207283 held by the puddle evident or +xqnHVz_6RPg-00925-00207284-00207532 personalist schools they seemed to have +xqnHVz_6RPg-00926-00207533-00207712 held that there was a sort of personhood +xqnHVz_6RPg-00927-00207713-00207916 in some ultimately real sense which was +xqnHVz_6RPg-00928-00207917-00208089 not reducible to the five aggregates +xqnHVz_6RPg-00929-00208090-00208387 this controversial claim was in contrast +xqnHVz_6RPg-00930-00208388-00208567 to the other buddhists of the time who +xqnHVz_6RPg-00931-00208569-00208738 held that a personality was a mere +xqnHVz_6RPg-00932-00208739-00208936 conceptual construction progeny of tea +xqnHVz_6RPg-00933-00208937-00209391 and only conventionally real +xqnHVz_6RPg-00934-00209392-00210017 topic Indian Mahayana philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-00935-00210019-00210312 from about the first century BCE a new +xqnHVz_6RPg-00936-00210313-00210528 textual tradition began to arise in +xqnHVz_6RPg-00937-00210529-00210714 Indian Buddhist thought called Mahayana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00938-00210715-00210932 great vehicle which would slowly come to +xqnHVz_6RPg-00939-00210933-00211130 dominate Indian Buddhist philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-00940-00211131-00211382 Buddhist philosophy thrived in large +xqnHVz_6RPg-00941-00211383-00211638 monastery university complexes such as +xqnHVz_6RPg-00942-00211639-00211851 Nollan de and vikrama Silla which became +xqnHVz_6RPg-00943-00211852-00212054 centers of learning in North India +xqnHVz_6RPg-00944-00212055-00212306 Mahayana philosophers continued the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00945-00212307-00212517 philosophical projects of Abby Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-00946-00212517-00212684 while at the same time katika ng them +xqnHVz_6RPg-00947-00212685-00212915 and introducing new concepts and ideas +xqnHVz_6RPg-00948-00212916-00213206 since the Mahayana held to the pragmatic +xqnHVz_6RPg-00949-00213207-00213375 concept of truth which states that +xqnHVz_6RPg-00950-00213376-00213573 doctrines are regarded as conditionally +xqnHVz_6RPg-00951-00213573-00213879 true in the sense of being spiritually +xqnHVz_6RPg-00952-00213880-00214044 beneficial the new theories and +xqnHVz_6RPg-00953-00214044-00214266 practices were seen as skillful means u +xqnHVz_6RPg-00954-00214267-00214554 paya the Mahayana also promoted the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00955-00214555-00214748 Bodhisattva ideal which included an +xqnHVz_6RPg-00956-00214750-00214934 attitude of compassion for all sentient +xqnHVz_6RPg-00957-00214935-00215223 beings the Bodhisattva is someone who +xqnHVz_6RPg-00958-00215223-00215405 chooses to remain in samsara the cycle +xqnHVz_6RPg-00959-00215406-00215630 of birth and death to benefit all other +xqnHVz_6RPg-00960-00215631-00215933 beings who are suffering major Mahayana +xqnHVz_6RPg-00961-00215934-00216146 philosophical schools and traditions +xqnHVz_6RPg-00962-00216148-00216288 include the Prussian a parameter +xqnHVz_6RPg-00963-00216289-00216533 madhyamaka tathagatagarbha the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00964-00216534-00216806 epistemological school of digna yogacara +xqnHVz_6RPg-00965-00216807-00217376 Mayan TNT and the Qian Zhen schools +xqnHVz_6RPg-00966-00217377-00218002 topic Prajnaparamita and madhyamaka +xqnHVz_6RPg-00967-00218003-00218257 the earliest prajnaparamita sutra z' +xqnHVz_6RPg-00968-00218258-00218485 first century BC emphasized the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00969-00218486-00218721 emptiness Shunyata a phenomena or Damas +xqnHVz_6RPg-00970-00218723-00219028 the perfection of Insight Prajnaparamita +xqnHVz_6RPg-00971-00219029-00219196 is said to be true knowledge of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00972-00219196-00219388 nature of ultimate reality which is +xqnHVz_6RPg-00973-00219389-00219642 illusory and empty of essence the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00974-00219644-00219877 Diamond Sutra states that all +xqnHVz_6RPg-00975-00219878-00220071 conditioned phenomena are like a dream +xqnHVz_6RPg-00976-00220073-00220426 an illusion a bubble a shadow like Dew +xqnHVz_6RPg-00977-00220427-00220702 or a flash of lightning thus we shall +xqnHVz_6RPg-00978-00220703-00220998 perceive them the Heart Sutra famously +xqnHVz_6RPg-00979-00221000-00221158 affirms the emptiness or voidness +xqnHVz_6RPg-00980-00221159-00221431 Shunyata of phenomena Oh +xqnHVz_6RPg-00981-00221432-00221653 sariputra form does not differ from the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00982-00221654-00221817 void and the void does not differ from +xqnHVz_6RPg-00983-00221819-00222331 form form is void and void as form the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00984-00222332-00222604 same is true for feelings perceptions +xqnHVz_6RPg-00985-00222605-00222952 Volition's and consciousness the progeny +xqnHVz_6RPg-00986-00222953-00223144 parameter teachings are associated with +xqnHVz_6RPg-00987-00223144-00223317 the work of the Buddhist philosopher +xqnHVz_6RPg-00988-00223319-00223873 Nagarjuna see ad 150 C 250 and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00989-00223873-00224209 madhyamaka middleweight school Nagarjuna +xqnHVz_6RPg-00990-00224210-00224407 was one of the most influential Indian +xqnHVz_6RPg-00991-00224408-00224503 Buddhist thinkers +xqnHVz_6RPg-00992-00224504-00224680 he gave the classical arguments for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-00993-00224681-00224875 empty nature of phenomena and attacked +xqnHVz_6RPg-00994-00224876-00225055 the Sarvis Nevada and Punja Levada +xqnHVz_6RPg-00995-00225056-00225259 schools essentialism in his magnum opus +xqnHVz_6RPg-00996-00225260-00225481 the fundamental verses on the middle way +xqnHVz_6RPg-00997-00225482-00225744 mallamma de macaque Rica in the moolah +xqnHVz_6RPg-00998-00225746-00225948 Matamata Gore Iike Nagarjuna relies on +xqnHVz_6RPg-00999-00225950-00226173 reductio ad absurdum arguments to refute +xqnHVz_6RPg-01000-00226175-00226357 various theories which assume an +xqnHVz_6RPg-01001-00226358-00226675 inherent essence or own being suave OVA +xqnHVz_6RPg-01002-00226676-00226912 in this work he covers topics such as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01003-00226913-00227144 causation motion and the sense faculties +xqnHVz_6RPg-01004-00227146-00227386 Nagarjuna asserted a direct connection +xqnHVz_6RPg-01005-00227387-00227605 between even identity of dependent +xqnHVz_6RPg-01006-00227606-00227830 origination selflessness enade' and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01007-00227831-00228106 emptiness sunyata he pointed out that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01008-00228107-00228316 implicit in the early Buddhist concept +xqnHVz_6RPg-01009-00228317-00228505 of dependent origination as the lack of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01010-00228506-00228748 any substantial being in data underlying +xqnHVz_6RPg-01011-00228748-00228964 the participants in origination so that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01012-00228965-00229144 they have no independent existence a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01013-00229144-00229392 state identified as emptiness sunyata or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01014-00229394-00229617 emptiness of a nature or essence vibhava +xqnHVz_6RPg-01015-00229619-00229903 Sonia later philosophers of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01016-00229904-00230142 madhyamaka school built upon Nagarjuna's +xqnHVz_6RPg-01017-00230144-00230398 analysis and defended madhyamaka against +xqnHVz_6RPg-01018-00230398-00230665 their opponents these included area to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01019-00230666-00230941 the 3rd century CE II nog Arjuna's pupil +xqnHVz_6RPg-01020-00230942-00231325 Kendrick 3600 C 650 who wrote in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01021-00231326-00231481 important commentary on the mullah +xqnHVz_6RPg-01022-00231482-00231682 Mohammed Ikaruga and shantideva eighth +xqnHVz_6RPg-01023-00231683-00232180 century buddha polida 472 550 has been +xqnHVz_6RPg-01024-00232181-00232351 understood as the originator of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01025-00232352-00232548 press on jika approach which is based on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01026-00232550-00232726 katika ng essentialism only through +xqnHVz_6RPg-01027-00232727-00233014 reductio ad absurdum arguments he was +xqnHVz_6RPg-01028-00233015-00233503 criticized by bava bava gutsy 500 CE 578 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01029-00233504-00233752 who argued for the use of syllogisms to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01030-00233753-00234096 set one's own doctrinal stance these two +xqnHVz_6RPg-01031-00234098-00234265 approaches were later termed the press +xqnHVz_6RPg-01032-00234266-00234466 on jika and the swattin Trika approaches +xqnHVz_6RPg-01033-00234467-00234694 to madhyamaka by tibetan philosophers +xqnHVz_6RPg-01034-00234694-00234996 and commentators influenced by the work +xqnHVz_6RPg-01035-00234998-00235225 of digne gaw valve aviva cos madhyamika +xqnHVz_6RPg-01036-00235226-00235408 philosophy makes use of Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01037-00235409-00235702 epistemology Kendrick RT on the other +xqnHVz_6RPg-01038-00235703-00235930 hand critiqued bava bava cos adoption of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01039-00235931-00236155 the epistemological pramana tradition on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01040-00236156-00236308 the grounds that it contained a subtle +xqnHVz_6RPg-01041-00236309-00236578 essentialism he quotes nog Arjuna's +xqnHVz_6RPg-01042-00236579-00236758 famous statement in the Vig raha view of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01043-00236759-00237082 artani which says I have no thesis for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01044-00237083-00237267 his rejection of positive epistemic +xqnHVz_6RPg-01045-00237269-00237559 madhyamaka statements Kendrick Rd held +xqnHVz_6RPg-01046-00237560-00237783 that a true madhyamika could only use +xqnHVz_6RPg-01047-00237784-00238075 consequence for Sangha in which one +xqnHVz_6RPg-01048-00238076-00238255 points out the inconsistencies of their +xqnHVz_6RPg-01049-00238256-00238442 opponents position without asserting an +xqnHVz_6RPg-01050-00238444-00238777 autonomous inference Swatantra for no +xqnHVz_6RPg-01051-00238778-00238971 such inference can be ultimately true +xqnHVz_6RPg-01052-00238973-00239217 from the point of view of madhyamaka in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01053-00239219-00239500 China the madhyamaka school known as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01054-00239501-00239842 Sandlin was founded by kumara Jeeva 344 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01055-00239842-00240163 to 413 C II who translated the works of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01056-00240164-00240475 Nagarjuna to Chinese other Chinese Matt +xqnHVz_6RPg-01057-00240476-00240727 hi Matt cos include kumara Jeeva s pupil +xqnHVz_6RPg-01058-00240728-00241165 sang cha 549 2 623 who wrote +xqnHVz_6RPg-01059-00241166-00241435 over 50 works on madhyamaka and hagwon a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01060-00241436-00241615 korean monk who brought madhyamaka +xqnHVz_6RPg-01061-00241616-00242011 teachings to japan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01062-00242012-00242502 topic yogacara +xqnHVz_6RPg-01063-00242503-00242784 the yogacara school yoga practice was a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01064-00242785-00242985 Buddhist philosophical tradition which +xqnHVz_6RPg-01065-00242986-00243194 arose in between the 2nd century CE II +xqnHVz_6RPg-01066-00243196-00243387 in the 4th century CE II and is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01067-00243388-00243561 associated with the philosophers a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01068-00243562-00243786 Sangha and vasa bandeau and with various +xqnHVz_6RPg-01069-00243787-00243966 sutras such as the Santa Norma Cano +xqnHVz_6RPg-01070-00243967-00244181 Sutra and the Lang covet ARA sutra the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01071-00244182-00244442 central feature of yogacara thought as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01072-00244444-00244659 the concept of ingenuity mattre often +xqnHVz_6RPg-01073-00244660-00244967 translated as impressions only or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01074-00244967-00245238 appearance only and this has been +xqnHVz_6RPg-01075-00245239-00245466 interpreted as a form of idealism or as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01076-00245467-00245751 a form of phenomenology other names for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01077-00245752-00245967 the yogacara school are Virginia Nevada +xqnHVz_6RPg-01078-00245967-00246186 the doctrine of consciousness and Cheeta +xqnHVz_6RPg-01079-00246187-00246504 Matra mind only yogacara thinkers like +xqnHVz_6RPg-01080-00246505-00246692 vasa bandeau argued against the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01081-00246694-00246885 existence of external objects by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01082-00246886-00247050 pointing out that we only ever have +xqnHVz_6RPg-01083-00247051-00247260 access to our own mental impressions and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01084-00247261-00247442 hence our inference of the existence of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01085-00247444-00247629 external objects is based on faulty +xqnHVz_6RPg-01086-00247630-00247929 logic vasa benders vine Optima trait +xqnHVz_6RPg-01087-00247930-00248109 acity or the proof that there are only +xqnHVz_6RPg-01088-00248110-00248553 impressions 20 verses begins thus I this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01089-00248554-00248781 world is nothing but impressions since +xqnHVz_6RPg-01090-00248782-00249029 it manifests itself as an unreal object +xqnHVz_6RPg-01091-00249030-00249242 just like the case of those with +xqnHVz_6RPg-01092-00249244-00249438 cataracts seeing unreal hairs in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01093-00249439-00249690 moon and the like quote according to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01094-00249691-00249942 Vasa bandeau then all our experiences +xqnHVz_6RPg-01095-00249942-00250142 are like seeing hairs on the moon when +xqnHVz_6RPg-01096-00250144-00250386 we have cataracts that is we project our +xqnHVz_6RPg-01097-00250387-00250698 mental images into something out there +xqnHVz_6RPg-01098-00250698-00250908 when there are no such things Vasa +xqnHVz_6RPg-01099-00250909-00251103 bandeau then goes on to use the dream +xqnHVz_6RPg-01100-00251104-00251259 argument to argue that mental +xqnHVz_6RPg-01101-00251260-00251417 impressions do not require external +xqnHVz_6RPg-01102-00251419-00251607 objects to one seemed to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01103-00251608-00251850 spatio-temporal II located to two seem +xqnHVz_6RPg-01104-00251851-00252042 to have an intersubjective quality and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01105-00252042-00252266 three to seem to operate by causal laws +xqnHVz_6RPg-01106-00252267-00252542 the fact that purely mental events can +xqnHVz_6RPg-01107-00252544-00252696 have causal efficacy and be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01108-00252696-00252906 intersubjective is proved by the event +xqnHVz_6RPg-01109-00252907-00253104 of a wet dream and by the mass or shared +xqnHVz_6RPg-01110-00253105-00253314 hallucinations created by the Karma of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01111-00253315-00253515 certain types of beings after having +xqnHVz_6RPg-01112-00253516-00253725 argued that impressions only as a theory +xqnHVz_6RPg-01113-00253726-00253857 which can explain our everyday +xqnHVz_6RPg-01114-00253858-00254103 experience Vasa bandeau then appeals to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01115-00254104-00254283 parsimony since we do not need the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01116-00254284-00254502 concept of external objects to explain +xqnHVz_6RPg-01117-00254503-00254685 reality then we can do away with those +xqnHVz_6RPg-01118-00254686-00254904 superfluous concepts altogether as they +xqnHVz_6RPg-01119-00254905-00255051 are most likely just mentally +xqnHVz_6RPg-01120-00255052-00255279 superimposed on our concepts of reality +xqnHVz_6RPg-01121-00255280-00255582 by the mind inter subjective reality for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01122-00255583-00255746 Vasa bandeau is then the causal +xqnHVz_6RPg-01123-00255748-00255883 interaction between very +xqnHVz_6RPg-01124-00255884-00256078 mental streams and their Karma and does +xqnHVz_6RPg-01125-00256079-00256255 not include any external physical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01126-00256256-00256569 objects the soteriological importance of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01127-00256571-00256741 this theory is that by removing the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01128-00256742-00256936 concept of an external world it also +xqnHVz_6RPg-01129-00256937-00257152 weakens the internal sense of self as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01130-00257153-00257308 observer which is supposed to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01131-00257309-00257544 separate from the external world to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01132-00257546-00257728 dissolve the dualism of inner and outer +xqnHVz_6RPg-01133-00257729-00257932 as also to dissolve the sense of self +xqnHVz_6RPg-01134-00257933-00258226 and other the later yogacara commentator +xqnHVz_6RPg-01135-00258227-00258473 Saint Hiram Atty explains this thus +xqnHVz_6RPg-01136-00258475-00258730 there is a grasper if there is something +xqnHVz_6RPg-01137-00258731-00258976 to be grasped but not in the absence of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01138-00258977-00259261 what is to be grasped where there is no +xqnHVz_6RPg-01139-00259262-00259480 thing to be grasped the absence of a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01140-00259481-00259729 grasper also follows there is not just +xqnHVz_6RPg-01141-00259730-00259944 the absence of the thing to be grasped +xqnHVz_6RPg-01142-00259944-00260263 thus there arises the extra mundane non +xqnHVz_6RPg-01143-00260264-00260494 conceptual cognition that is alike +xqnHVz_6RPg-01144-00260494-00260842 without object and without cognizer Vasa +xqnHVz_6RPg-01145-00260842-00261028 bandeau also attacked the realist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01146-00261029-00261211 theories of Buddhist atomism in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01147-00261212-00261505 abhidharma theory of svabhava he argued +xqnHVz_6RPg-01148-00261506-00261694 that atoms is conceived by the atomists +xqnHVz_6RPg-01149-00261694-00261910 unda visible entities would not be able +xqnHVz_6RPg-01150-00261911-00262084 to come together to form larger +xqnHVz_6RPg-01151-00262085-00262258 aggregate entities and hence that they +xqnHVz_6RPg-01152-00262259-00262492 were illogical concepts later yogacara +xqnHVz_6RPg-01153-00262493-00262708 thinkers include Dharmapala of Nalanda +xqnHVz_6RPg-01154-00262709-00262939 saint Hyrum @t Chandra gammon who +xqnHVz_6RPg-01155-00262940-00263155 debated Kendrick Aarti and sila Bhadra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01156-00263156-00263425 yoga currents such as para Martha and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01157-00263426-00263608 gana Bhadra brought the school to China +xqnHVz_6RPg-01158-00263609-00263827 and translated yogacara works there +xqnHVz_6RPg-01159-00263828-00264016 where it is known as ye Shi Zhang or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01160-00264017-00264268 Foshan Zhang as an important +xqnHVz_6RPg-01161-00264269-00264493 contribution to East Asian yogacara as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01162-00264494-00264745 Zhang Zhang's Cheng ye lune or discourse +xqnHVz_6RPg-01163-00264746-00264919 on the establishment of consciousness +xqnHVz_6RPg-01164-00264920-00265295 only +xqnHVz_6RPg-01165-00265296-00265859 topic yogacara madhyamika synthesis +xqnHVz_6RPg-01166-00265860-00266102 Jaynee on the garba eighth-century and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01167-00266103-00266522 his students Antioch CA 725 to 788 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01168-00266523-00266783 brought together yogacara madhyamaka and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01169-00266784-00266943 the digna gas school of epistemology +xqnHVz_6RPg-01170-00266944-00267185 into a philosophical synthesis known as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01171-00267186-00267416 the yoga correspondent Rika madhyamika +xqnHVz_6RPg-01172-00267417-00267701 santur accidie was also instrumental in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01173-00267702-00267872 the introduction of Buddhism in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01174-00267873-00268068 Sarvis dividend monastic ordination +xqnHVz_6RPg-01175-00268069-00268280 lineage to Tibet which was conducted at +xqnHVz_6RPg-01176-00268281-00268472 Sami santur exceed his disciples +xqnHVz_6RPg-01177-00268473-00268671 included Hara Bhadra and Kamala Silla +xqnHVz_6RPg-01178-00268672-00268922 this philosophical tradition as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01179-00268923-00269436 influential in Tibetan Buddhist thought +xqnHVz_6RPg-01180-00269437-00269956 topic tagada Garba +xqnHVz_6RPg-01181-00269957-00270196 the tathagatagarbha sutras in a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01182-00270197-00270365 departure from mainstream Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01183-00270366-00270569 language insists that the potential for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01184-00270570-00270748 awakening is inherent to every sentient +xqnHVz_6RPg-01185-00270749-00271013 being they marked a shift from a largely +xqnHVz_6RPg-01186-00271014-00271249 apathetic negative philosophical trend +xqnHVz_6RPg-01187-00271250-00271469 within Buddhism to a decidedly more cata +xqnHVz_6RPg-01188-00271470-00271814 fatik positive modus prior to the period +xqnHVz_6RPg-01189-00271815-00272039 of these Scriptures Mahayana metaphysics +xqnHVz_6RPg-01190-00272040-00272213 had been dominated by teachings on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01191-00272214-00272398 emptiness in the form of madhyamaka +xqnHVz_6RPg-01192-00272399-00272663 philosophy the language used by this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01193-00272664-00272881 approach is primarily negative and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01194-00272882-00273109 tathagatagarbha genre of sutras can be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01195-00273110-00273301 seen as an attempt to state orthodox +xqnHVz_6RPg-01196-00273302-00273460 Buddhist teachings of dependent +xqnHVz_6RPg-01197-00273461-00273658 origination using positive language +xqnHVz_6RPg-01198-00273659-00273820 instead to prevent people from being +xqnHVz_6RPg-01199-00273821-00274009 turned away from Buddhism by a false +xqnHVz_6RPg-01200-00274010-00274313 impression of nihilism in these sutras +xqnHVz_6RPg-01201-00274314-00274517 the perfection of the wisdom of not self +xqnHVz_6RPg-01202-00274518-00274699 has stated to be the true self the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01203-00274700-00274865 ultimate goal of the path is then +xqnHVz_6RPg-01204-00274866-00275044 characterized using a range of positive +xqnHVz_6RPg-01205-00275045-00275224 language that had been used previously +xqnHVz_6RPg-01206-00275225-00275473 in Indian philosophy by essentialist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01207-00275474-00275623 philosophers but which was now +xqnHVz_6RPg-01208-00275624-00275789 transmuted into a new Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01209-00275790-00276007 vocabulary to describe a being who has +xqnHVz_6RPg-01210-00276008-00276196 successfully completed the Buddhist path +xqnHVz_6RPg-01211-00276197-00276538 the word self Atman is used in a way +xqnHVz_6RPg-01212-00276539-00276805 idiosyncratic to these sutras the true +xqnHVz_6RPg-01213-00276806-00277088 self is described as the perfection of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01214-00277089-00277262 the wisdom of not self in the Buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-01215-00277263-00277514 nature treatise for example language +xqnHVz_6RPg-01216-00277515-00277708 that had previously been used by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01217-00277709-00277913 essentialist non-buddhists philosophers +xqnHVz_6RPg-01218-00277914-00278141 was now adopted with new definitions by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01219-00278142-00278365 Buddhists to promote Orthodox teachings +xqnHVz_6RPg-01220-00278366-00278650 the tathagatagarbha does not according +xqnHVz_6RPg-01221-00278651-00278824 to some scholars represent a substantial +xqnHVz_6RPg-01222-00278825-00279073 self rather it is a positive language +xqnHVz_6RPg-01223-00279074-00279301 expression of emptiness and represents +xqnHVz_6RPg-01224-00279302-00279508 the potentiality to realize Buddhahood +xqnHVz_6RPg-01225-00279509-00279733 through Buddhist practices in this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01226-00279734-00279928 interpretation the intention of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01227-00279929-00280091 teaching of tathagatagarbha is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01228-00280092-00280289 soteriological rather than theoretical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01229-00280290-00280514 the tathagatagarbha the Theravada +xqnHVz_6RPg-01230-00280515-00280720 doctrine of Bhuvana and the yogic ah +xqnHVz_6RPg-01231-00280721-00280862 restore consciousness were all +xqnHVz_6RPg-01232-00280863-00281015 identified at some point with the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01233-00281016-00281296 luminous mind of the nakaya's in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01234-00281297-00281543 mahayana maha nirvana sutra the buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-01235-00281544-00281749 insists that while pondering upon dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01236-00281750-00281923 is vital one must then relinquish +xqnHVz_6RPg-01237-00281924-00282130 fixation on words and letters as these +xqnHVz_6RPg-01238-00282131-00282322 are utterly divorced from liberation and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01239-00282323-00282781 the Buddha nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01240-00282782-00283322 pick the digne gasps school of pramana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01241-00283323-00283727 dig Naga see 480 to 540 and Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01242-00283728-00284132 courtesy 6 to 7 th century were Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01243-00284133-00284333 philosophers who developed a system of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01244-00284334-00284564 epistemology pramana and logic in their +xqnHVz_6RPg-01245-00284565-00284681 debates with the Brahminical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01246-00284682-00284900 philosophers in order to defend Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01247-00284901-00285155 doctrine this tradition is called those +xqnHVz_6RPg-01248-00285156-00285380 who follow reasoning Tibetan Riggs pas +xqnHVz_6RPg-01249-00285381-00285677 our jei su brang BA in modern literature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01250-00285678-00285884 it is sometimes known by the Sanskrit +xqnHVz_6RPg-01251-00285885-00286049 prima Nevada or the epistemological +xqnHVz_6RPg-01252-00286050-00286337 school they were associated with the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01253-00286338-00286550 yogacara and solder and iike schools and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01254-00286551-00286742 defended theories held by both of these +xqnHVz_6RPg-01255-00286743-00287051 schools dig Nagas influence was profound +xqnHVz_6RPg-01256-00287052-00287285 and led to an epistemological turn among +xqnHVz_6RPg-01257-00287286-00287474 all Buddhists and also all Sanskrit +xqnHVz_6RPg-01258-00287475-00287684 philosophers in India after his death in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01259-00287685-00287936 the centuries following dig Nagas work +xqnHVz_6RPg-01260-00287937-00288158 sanskrit philosophers became much more +xqnHVz_6RPg-01261-00288159-00288320 focused on defending all of their +xqnHVz_6RPg-01262-00288321-00288446 propositions with fully developed +xqnHVz_6RPg-01263-00288447-00288701 theories of knowledge though school of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01264-00288702-00289004 digne includes later philosophers and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01265-00289005-00289229 commentators like Santa Bhadra Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01266-00289230-00289268 Terra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01267-00289269-00289577 eighth-century Janie ondas Rama try 975 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01268-00289578-00289931 102 5 Ron Daugherty 11th century and Sam +xqnHVz_6RPg-01269-00289932-00290210 carne andhe the epistemology they +xqnHVz_6RPg-01270-00290211-00290384 developed defends the view that there +xqnHVz_6RPg-01271-00290385-00290585 are only two instruments of knowledge or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01272-00290586-00290854 valid cognitions pramana perception +xqnHVz_6RPg-01273-00290855-00291202 pratyaksa and inference on amana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01274-00291203-00291467 perception as a non conceptual awareness +xqnHVz_6RPg-01275-00291468-00291626 of particulars which is bound by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01276-00291627-00291845 causality while inference is reasonable +xqnHVz_6RPg-01277-00291846-00292145 linguistic and conceptual these Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01278-00292146-00292337 philosophers argued in favour of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01279-00292338-00292466 theory of momentariness +xqnHVz_6RPg-01280-00292467-00292778 the yogacara awareness only view the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01281-00292779-00293021 reality of particulars Valek sana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01282-00293022-00293243 atomism nominalism and the self +xqnHVz_6RPg-01283-00293244-00293453 reflexive nature of consciousness force +xqnHVz_6RPg-01284-00293454-00293714 an vadhana they attacked Hindu theories +xqnHVz_6RPg-01285-00293715-00293951 of God universals the authority of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01286-00293952-00294137 Vedas and the existence of a permanent +xqnHVz_6RPg-01287-00294138-00294520 soul Atman +xqnHVz_6RPg-01288-00294521-00295018 topic Tantra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01289-00295019-00295276 the tradition associated with a group of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01290-00295277-00295453 texts known as the Buddhist tantras +xqnHVz_6RPg-01291-00295454-00295654 known as Vajrayana developed by the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01292-00295655-00295906 eighth century in North India by this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01293-00295907-00296140 time Tantra was a key feature of Indian +xqnHVz_6RPg-01294-00296141-00296347 Buddhism and Indian tantric scholars +xqnHVz_6RPg-01295-00296348-00296536 developed philosophical defenses +xqnHVz_6RPg-01296-00296537-00296740 hermeneutics and explanations of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01297-00296741-00296947 buddhist tantric systems especially +xqnHVz_6RPg-01298-00296948-00297145 through commentaries on key tantras such +xqnHVz_6RPg-01299-00297146-00297346 as the guru maha Tantra in the gaya +xqnHVz_6RPg-01300-00297347-00297646 Garba tantra while the view of the Vajra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01301-00297647-00297895 yonder was based on madhyamaka yogacara +xqnHVz_6RPg-01302-00297896-00298123 and buddha nature theories it saw itself +xqnHVz_6RPg-01303-00298124-00298327 as being a faster vehicle to liberation +xqnHVz_6RPg-01304-00298328-00298537 containing many skillful methods you +xqnHVz_6RPg-01305-00298538-00298831 paya of tantric ritual the need for an +xqnHVz_6RPg-01306-00298832-00299044 explication and defense of the tantras +xqnHVz_6RPg-01307-00299045-00299233 arose out of the unusual nature of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01308-00299234-00299419 rituals associated with them which +xqnHVz_6RPg-01309-00299420-00299608 included the use of secret mantras +xqnHVz_6RPg-01310-00299609-00299836 alcohol sexual yoga complex +xqnHVz_6RPg-01311-00299837-00300067 visualizations of mandalas filled with +xqnHVz_6RPg-01312-00300068-00300283 wrathful deities and other practices and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01313-00300284-00300454 injunctions which were discordant with +xqnHVz_6RPg-01314-00300455-00300637 or at least novel in comparison to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01315-00300638-00300886 traditional Buddhist thought the Gullo +xqnHVz_6RPg-01316-00300887-00301150 Samaha Tantra for example states you +xqnHVz_6RPg-01317-00301151-00301369 should kill living beings speak lying +xqnHVz_6RPg-01318-00301370-00301603 words take things that are not given and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01319-00301604-00301942 have sex with many women other features +xqnHVz_6RPg-01320-00301943-00302137 of Tantra included a focus on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01321-00302138-00302341 physical body as the means to liberation +xqnHVz_6RPg-01322-00302342-00302566 and a reaffirmation of feminine elements +xqnHVz_6RPg-01323-00302567-00302782 feminine deities and sexuality the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01324-00302783-00302983 defence of these practices is based on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01325-00302984-00303154 the theory of transformation which +xqnHVz_6RPg-01326-00303155-00303358 states that negative mental factors and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01327-00303359-00303562 physical actions can be cultivated and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01328-00303563-00303754 transformed in a ritual setting the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01329-00303755-00304048 heavy draw Tantra states those things by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01330-00304049-00304234 which evil men are bound others turn +xqnHVz_6RPg-01331-00304235-00304435 into means and gain thereby release from +xqnHVz_6RPg-01332-00304436-00304696 the bonds of existence by passion the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01333-00304697-00304891 world is bound by passion - it is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01334-00304892-00305107 released but by heretical Buddhists this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01335-00305108-00305328 practice of reversals is not known +xqnHVz_6RPg-01336-00305329-00305566 another hermeneutic of buddhist tantric +xqnHVz_6RPg-01337-00305567-00305788 commentaries such as the Vimala prabha +xqnHVz_6RPg-01338-00305789-00305995 of pundarika a commentary on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01339-00305996-00306220 Kalachakra Tantra is one of interpreting +xqnHVz_6RPg-01340-00306221-00306412 taboo or unethical statements in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01341-00306413-00306607 tantras as metaphorical statements about +xqnHVz_6RPg-01342-00306608-00306892 tantric practice for example in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01343-00306893-00307122 Vimala Prabha killing living beings +xqnHVz_6RPg-01344-00307123-00307381 refers to stopping the prana at the top +xqnHVz_6RPg-01345-00307382-00307621 of the head in the tantric and record is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01346-00307622-00307837 Pradeep Adi otona a commentary to the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01347-00307838-00308026 griot Samaha Tantra killing living +xqnHVz_6RPg-01348-00308027-00308355 beings as glossed as making them void +xqnHVz_6RPg-01349-00308356-00308580 means of a special samadhi which +xqnHVz_6RPg-01350-00308581-00308842 according to busting is associated with +xqnHVz_6RPg-01351-00308843-00309048 completion stage tantric practice +xqnHVz_6RPg-01352-00309049-00309268 Douglas Duckworth notes that Vajrayana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01353-00309269-00309444 philosophical outlook is one of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01354-00309445-00309640 embodiment which sees the physical and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01355-00309641-00309879 cosmological body as already containing +xqnHVz_6RPg-01356-00309880-00310173 wisdom and divinity liberation Nirvana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01357-00310174-00310363 and Buddhahood has not seen as something +xqnHVz_6RPg-01358-00310364-00310599 outside or an event in the future but is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01359-00310600-00310789 imminently present and accessible right +xqnHVz_6RPg-01360-00310790-00310980 now through unique tantric practices +xqnHVz_6RPg-01361-00310981-00311202 like deity yoga and hence Vajra yonder +xqnHVz_6RPg-01362-00311203-00311463 is also called that resultant vehicle +xqnHVz_6RPg-01363-00311464-00311718 duckworth names the philosophical view +xqnHVz_6RPg-01364-00311719-00311958 of Vajrayana as a form of pantheism by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01365-00311959-00312123 which he means the belief that every +xqnHVz_6RPg-01366-00312124-00312337 existing entity is in some sense divine +xqnHVz_6RPg-01367-00312338-00312519 and that all things Express some form of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01368-00312520-00312817 unity major Indian tantric Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01369-00312818-00313044 philosophers such as Buddha guna Padma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01370-00313045-00313302 Vajra author of the gosset II Nagarjuna +xqnHVz_6RPg-01371-00313303-00313564 7th century disciple of cerrada Indra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01372-00313565-00313806 Booty author of the jain unicity ananga +xqnHVz_6RPg-01373-00313807-00314062 Vajra done by Haruka durjaya Kandra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01374-00314063-00314304 Ratnakar Asante and a by acara gupta +xqnHVz_6RPg-01375-00314305-00314487 wrote tantric texts and commentaries +xqnHVz_6RPg-01376-00314488-00314772 systematizing the tradition others such +xqnHVz_6RPg-01377-00314773-00314970 as vara Bodie and su Baqarah Simha +xqnHVz_6RPg-01378-00314971-00315369 brought Tantra to Tang China 716 to 720 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01379-00315370-00315562 tantric philosophy continued to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01380-00315563-00315759 developed in Chinese and Japanese by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01381-00315760-00315977 thinkers such as Yi Sheng and Kukai in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01382-00315978-00316254 Tibet philosophers such as Sakya Pandita +xqnHVz_6RPg-01383-00316255-00316527 one one eight two two eight one two five +xqnHVz_6RPg-01384-00316528-00316891 one longchenpa 1308 213 64 and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01385-00316892-00317196 tsongkhapa 1357 two fourteen nineteen +xqnHVz_6RPg-01386-00317197-00317370 continued the tradition of buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01387-00317371-00317830 tantric philosophy in tibetan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01388-00317831-00318431 topic Tibetan Buddhist philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-01389-00318432-00318695 Tibetan Buddhist philosophy is mainly a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01390-00318696-00318878 continuation and refinement of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01391-00318879-00319136 indian traditions of madhyamaka yogacara +xqnHVz_6RPg-01392-00319137-00319334 and the Dignidad are maccarty school of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01393-00319335-00319624 epistemology or reliable cognition +xqnHVz_6RPg-01394-00319625-00319976 sanskrit brahmana tip tea shad ma the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01395-00319977-00320174 initial efforts of Santa RAC Sita and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01396-00320175-00320327 Kamala Silla brought their eclectic +xqnHVz_6RPg-01397-00320328-00320582 scholarly tradition to Tibet other +xqnHVz_6RPg-01398-00320583-00320816 influences include Buddhist Tantra Xin +xqnHVz_6RPg-01399-00320817-00321128 the Buddha nature texts the initial work +xqnHVz_6RPg-01400-00321129-00321335 of early Tibetan Buddhist philosophers +xqnHVz_6RPg-01401-00321336-00321554 was in translation of classical Indian +xqnHVz_6RPg-01402-00321555-00321752 philosophical treatises and the writing +xqnHVz_6RPg-01403-00321753-00321971 of commentaries this initial period is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01404-00321972-00322235 from the 8th to the 10th century early +xqnHVz_6RPg-01405-00322236-00322436 Tibetan commentator philosophers were +xqnHVz_6RPg-01406-00322437-00322640 heavily influenced by the work of Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01407-00322641-00322865 Kirti and these include knock low dza +xqnHVz_6RPg-01408-00322866-00322922 wah +xqnHVz_6RPg-01409-00322923-00323381 10:59 to 1109 and Champa 1182 to 1250 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01410-00323382-00323705 won their works are now lost the 12th +xqnHVz_6RPg-01411-00323706-00323933 and 13th centuries saw the translation +xqnHVz_6RPg-01412-00323934-00324104 of the works of chandrakirti the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01413-00324105-00324287 promulgation of his views in tibet by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01414-00324288-00324620 scholars such as pots obnoxio Kanaka +xqnHVz_6RPg-01415-00324621-00324839 vermin and jaya nan de 12th century and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01416-00324840-00325010 the development of the tibetan debate +xqnHVz_6RPg-01417-00325011-00325181 between the press on jika and swat +xqnHVz_6RPg-01418-00325182-00325367 intricate views which continues to this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01419-00325368-00325634 day among Tibetan Buddhist schools the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01420-00325635-00325835 main disagreement between these views is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01421-00325836-00326096 the use of reasoned argument for santur +xqnHVz_6RPg-01422-00326097-00326309 acts IVA Kamala sila and their defenders +xqnHVz_6RPg-01423-00326310-00326495 reason as useful as establishing +xqnHVz_6RPg-01424-00326496-00326684 arguments that lead one to a correct +xqnHVz_6RPg-01425-00326685-00326879 understanding of emptiness then through +xqnHVz_6RPg-01426-00326880-00327080 the use of meditation one can reach non +xqnHVz_6RPg-01427-00327081-00327287 conceptual gnosis that does not rely on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01428-00327288-00327593 reason for chandrakirti however this is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01429-00327594-00327788 wrong because meditation on emptiness +xqnHVz_6RPg-01430-00327789-00328018 cannot possibly involve any object +xqnHVz_6RPg-01431-00328019-00328253 reasons role here is to negate any +xqnHVz_6RPg-01432-00328254-00328469 essence or essentialist views and then +xqnHVz_6RPg-01433-00328470-00328661 eventually negate itself along with any +xqnHVz_6RPg-01434-00328662-00328841 conceptual proliferation there are +xqnHVz_6RPg-01435-00328842-00329033 various Tibetan Buddhist schools or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01436-00329034-00329348 monastic orders according to George BJ +xqnHVz_6RPg-01437-00329349-00329582 Dreyfus with in Tibetan thought the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01438-00329583-00329771 Sakya school holds a mostly aunty +xqnHVz_6RPg-01439-00329772-00329975 realist philosophical position while the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01440-00329976-00330167 gelug school tends to defend a form of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01441-00330168-00330431 realism the Kagyu and Nyingma schools +xqnHVz_6RPg-01442-00330432-00330677 also tend to follow Satya and E realism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01443-00330678-00331044 with some differences +xqnHVz_6RPg-01444-00331045-00331621 topic Shangdong and buddha nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01445-00331622-00331908 the 14th century saw increasing interest +xqnHVz_6RPg-01446-00331909-00332116 in the buddha nature texts and doctrines +xqnHVz_6RPg-01447-00332117-00332350 this can be seen in the work of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01448-00332351-00332668 third kagyu Karmapa ranging Dorje 1284 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01449-00332669-00332922 to 13:39 especially his treatise +xqnHVz_6RPg-01450-00332923-00333241 profound inner meaning this treatise +xqnHVz_6RPg-01451-00333242-00333475 describes ultimate nature or suchness as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01452-00333476-00333649 Buddha nature which is the basis for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01453-00333650-00333895 nirvana and samsara radiant in nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01454-00333896-00334102 and empty in essence surpassing thought +xqnHVz_6RPg-01455-00334103-00334555 doll Papa doll boba 1292 2 1361 founder +xqnHVz_6RPg-01456-00334556-00334741 of the joning school developed a view +xqnHVz_6RPg-01457-00334742-00335017 called Shenton Wiley G's on stung other +xqnHVz_6RPg-01458-00335018-00335251 empty which is closely tied to yogacara +xqnHVz_6RPg-01459-00335252-00335524 and Buddha nature theories this view +xqnHVz_6RPg-01460-00335525-00335707 holds that the qualities of Buddhahood +xqnHVz_6RPg-01461-00335708-00335910 or Buddha nature are already present in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01462-00335911-00336070 the mind and that it is empty of all +xqnHVz_6RPg-01463-00336071-00336271 conventional reality which includes its +xqnHVz_6RPg-01464-00336272-00336498 own nature as Buddhahood or dharmakaya +xqnHVz_6RPg-01465-00336499-00336735 according to doll Papa all beams are +xqnHVz_6RPg-01466-00336736-00336919 said to have Buddha nature which is real +xqnHVz_6RPg-01467-00336920-00337165 unchanging permanent non conditioned +xqnHVz_6RPg-01468-00337166-00337462 eternal blissful and compassionate dull +xqnHVz_6RPg-01469-00337463-00337681 Papa's Shenton view taught that ultimate +xqnHVz_6RPg-01470-00337682-00337985 reality was truly a great self or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01471-00337986-00338332 supreme self referring to works such as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01472-00338333-00338554 the Mahayana maha printer vana Sutra the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01473-00338555-00338749 Angela Malaya Sutra in the Sri Madhavi +xqnHVz_6RPg-01474-00338750-00339033 semmanaadu Sutra this view had an +xqnHVz_6RPg-01475-00339034-00339207 influence on philosophers of other +xqnHVz_6RPg-01476-00339208-00339412 schools such as Mingma and kagyu +xqnHVz_6RPg-01477-00339413-00339625 thinkers and was also widely criticized +xqnHVz_6RPg-01478-00339626-00339823 in some circles as being similar to the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01479-00339824-00340078 Hindu notions of Atman the Shenton +xqnHVz_6RPg-01480-00340079-00340315 philosophy was also expounded in Tibet +xqnHVz_6RPg-01481-00340316-00340533 and Mongolia by the later joning scholar +xqnHVz_6RPg-01482-00340534-00341077 Taran atha 1575 216 34 in the late 17th +xqnHVz_6RPg-01483-00341078-00341254 century the joning order and its +xqnHVz_6RPg-01484-00341255-00341446 teachings came under attack by the 5th +xqnHVz_6RPg-01485-00341447-00341662 Dalai Lama who converted the majority of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01486-00341663-00341866 their monasteries in Tibet to the gelug +xqnHVz_6RPg-01487-00341867-00342040 order although several survived in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01488-00342041-00342357 secret +xqnHVz_6RPg-01489-00342358-00342787 topic gelug +xqnHVz_6RPg-01490-00342788-00343313 juh tsongkhapa Dzongkha bah 1357 to 1419 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01491-00343314-00343477 founded the gelug school of tibetan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01492-00343478-00343675 buddhism which came to dominate the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01493-00343676-00343828 country through the office of the dalai +xqnHVz_6RPg-01494-00343829-00344029 lama and is the major defender of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01495-00344030-00344249 purse and iike madhyamaka view his work +xqnHVz_6RPg-01496-00344250-00344417 is influenced by the philosophy of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01497-00344418-00344628 kendra Kirti and Dharma Kirti +xqnHVz_6RPg-01498-00344629-00344888 tsongkhapa's magnum opus as the ocean of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01499-00344889-00345106 reasoning a commentary on nagarjuna's +xqnHVz_6RPg-01500-00345107-00345422 mula madam Arika gelug philosophy is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01501-00345423-00345692 based upon study of madhyamaka texts and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01502-00345693-00345880 tsongkhapa's works as well as formal +xqnHVz_6RPg-01503-00345881-00346285 debate RTS OD pau tsongkhapa defended +xqnHVz_6RPg-01504-00346286-00346504 press on jika madhyamaka as the highest +xqnHVz_6RPg-01505-00346505-00346707 view and critiqued the slot in tariqa +xqnHVz_6RPg-01506-00346708-00346927 tsongkhapa argued that because the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01507-00346928-00347134 swattin Trika conventionally established +xqnHVz_6RPg-01508-00347135-00347326 things by their own characteristics they +xqnHVz_6RPg-01509-00347327-00347485 failed to completely understand the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01510-00347486-00347666 emptiness of phenomena and hence do not +xqnHVz_6RPg-01511-00347667-00347948 achieve the same realization drawing on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01512-00347949-00348167 chandrakirti tsongkhapa rejected the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01513-00348168-00348389 yogacara teachings even as a provisional +xqnHVz_6RPg-01514-00348390-00348625 stepping point to the madhyamaka view +xqnHVz_6RPg-01515-00348626-00348850 tsongkhapa was also critical of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01516-00348851-00349013 Shangdong view of dal papa +xqnHVz_6RPg-01517-00349014-00349228 which he saw is dangerously absolutist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01518-00349229-00349410 and hence outside the middle way +xqnHVz_6RPg-01519-00349411-00349523 tsongkhapa +xqnHVz_6RPg-01520-00349524-00349715 identified two major flaws in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01521-00349716-00349933 interpretations of madhyamika under +xqnHVz_6RPg-01522-00349934-00350147 negation of svabhava or own essence +xqnHVz_6RPg-01523-00350148-00350345 which could lead to absolutism and over +xqnHVz_6RPg-01524-00350346-00350559 negation which could lead to nihilism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01525-00350560-00350758 tsongkhapa's solution to this dilemma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01526-00350759-00350939 was the promotion of the use of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01527-00350940-00351124 inferential reasoning only within the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01528-00351125-00351296 conventional realm of the two truths +xqnHVz_6RPg-01529-00351297-00351512 framework allowing for the use of reason +xqnHVz_6RPg-01530-00351513-00351724 for ethics conventional monastic rules +xqnHVz_6RPg-01531-00351725-00351931 and promoting a conventional epistemic +xqnHVz_6RPg-01532-00351932-00352132 realism while holding that from the view +xqnHVz_6RPg-01533-00352133-00352340 of ultimate truth para marthy quesadilla +xqnHVz_6RPg-01534-00352341-00352552 all things including buddha nature and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01535-00352553-00352724 nirvana are empty of inherent existence +xqnHVz_6RPg-01536-00352725-00352973 SWA bhava and true enlightenment as this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01537-00352974-00353315 realization of emptiness satya scholars +xqnHVz_6RPg-01538-00353316-00353471 such as rongkhun and Garamba +xqnHVz_6RPg-01539-00353472-00353659 disagreed with tsongkhapa and argued +xqnHVz_6RPg-01540-00353660-00353822 that the person geekus Wotton Trika +xqnHVz_6RPg-01541-00353823-00354013 distinction was merely pedagogical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01542-00354014-00354274 Garamba also critiqued tsongkhapa's +xqnHVz_6RPg-01543-00354275-00354457 realism arguing that the structures +xqnHVz_6RPg-01544-00354458-00354623 which allow an empty object to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01545-00354624-00354788 presented as conventionally real +xqnHVz_6RPg-01546-00354789-00355000 eventually dissolve under analysis and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01547-00355001-00355207 are thus unstructured and non conceptual +xqnHVz_6RPg-01548-00355208-00355501 Bros Brawl tsongkhapa's students Gail +xqnHVz_6RPg-01549-00355502-00355817 tsap Kay drop and je Dunn drop set forth +xqnHVz_6RPg-01550-00355818-00356027 an epistemological realism against the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01551-00356028-00356459 Sakia scholars anti-realism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01552-00356460-00357288 topic Sakia Sakya Pandita 1182 to 1251 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01553-00357289-00357516 was a 13th century head of the Sakia +xqnHVz_6RPg-01554-00357517-00357801 school in ruler of tibet he was also one +xqnHVz_6RPg-01555-00357802-00357942 of the most important Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01556-00357943-00358089 philosophers in the Tibetan tradition +xqnHVz_6RPg-01557-00358090-00358347 writing works on logic and epistemology +xqnHVz_6RPg-01558-00358348-00358575 and promoting Dharma Cordys perminov are +xqnHVz_6RPg-01559-00358576-00358797 dika commentary on valid cognition as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01560-00358798-00359082 central to scholastic study sakya +xqnHVz_6RPg-01561-00359083-00359298 pandita's treasury of logic on valid +xqnHVz_6RPg-01562-00359299-00359361 cognition +xqnHVz_6RPg-01563-00359362-00359694 tshh Atma Riggs PI G ter set forth the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01564-00359695-00359919 classic Sakia epistemic anti-realist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01565-00359920-00360129 position arguing that concepts such as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01566-00360130-00360324 universals are not known through valid +xqnHVz_6RPg-01567-00360325-00360525 cognition and hence are not real objects +xqnHVz_6RPg-01568-00360526-00360798 of knowledge Sakya Pandita was also +xqnHVz_6RPg-01569-00360799-00360948 critical of theories of sudden +xqnHVz_6RPg-01570-00360949-00361113 enlightenment which was held by some +xqnHVz_6RPg-01571-00361114-00361347 teachers of the Chinese great perfection +xqnHVz_6RPg-01572-00361348-00361769 in Tibet later sake is such as Garamba +xqnHVz_6RPg-01573-00361770-00362238 1429 to 1489 and Sakia choke 1014 28 to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01574-00362239-00362499 1507 would develop and defend satya +xqnHVz_6RPg-01575-00362500-00362673 anti-realism and they are seen as the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01576-00362674-00362880 major interpreters and critics of sakya +xqnHVz_6RPg-01577-00362881-00363162 pandita's philosophy satya choke dan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01578-00363163-00363315 also critiqued tsongkhapa's +xqnHVz_6RPg-01579-00363316-00363537 interpretation of madhyamaka and dull +xqnHVz_6RPg-01580-00363538-00363798 Papa's Shenton in his definite ascertain +xqnHVz_6RPg-01581-00363799-00363948 minh tup the middle way choke dan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01582-00363949-00364128 criticized tsongkhapa's view as being +xqnHVz_6RPg-01583-00364129-00364335 too low go centric and still caught up +xqnHVz_6RPg-01584-00364336-00364539 in conceptualization about the ultimate +xqnHVz_6RPg-01585-00364540-00364839 reality which is beyond language satya +xqnHVz_6RPg-01586-00364840-00365022 choke dens philosophy attempted to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01587-00365023-00365220 reconcile the views of the yogacara and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01588-00365221-00365469 madhyamaka seeing them both as valid and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01589-00365470-00365661 complementary perspectives on ultimate +xqnHVz_6RPg-01590-00365662-00365982 truth madhyamaka is seen by choke den as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01591-00365983-00366159 removing the fault of taking the unreal +xqnHVz_6RPg-01592-00366160-00366384 as being real and yogacara removes the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01593-00366385-00366675 fault of the denial of reality likewise +xqnHVz_6RPg-01594-00366676-00366873 the Shen Tong and ranked on views are +xqnHVz_6RPg-01595-00366874-00367089 seen as complimentary by sakya choke den +xqnHVz_6RPg-01596-00367090-00367281 ranked on negation is effective in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01597-00367282-00367428 cutting through all clinging to wrong +xqnHVz_6RPg-01598-00367429-00367656 views and conceptual rectification while +xqnHVz_6RPg-01599-00367657-00367815 Shen Tong is more amenable for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01600-00367816-00368001 describing and enhancing meditative +xqnHVz_6RPg-01601-00368002-00368304 experience and realization therefore for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01602-00368305-00368532 Sakia choke den the same realization of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01603-00368533-00368730 ultimate reality can be accessed and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01604-00368731-00368886 described in two different but +xqnHVz_6RPg-01605-00368887-00369257 compatible ways +xqnHVz_6RPg-01606-00369258-00369772 topic NEMA and REM a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01607-00369773-00370027 the nygma school is strongly influenced +xqnHVz_6RPg-01608-00370028-00370234 by the view of zakian great perfection +xqnHVz_6RPg-01609-00370235-00370434 and the Zhongshan tantric literature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01610-00370435-00370834 longchenpa 1308 213 64 was a major +xqnHVz_6RPg-01611-00370835-00371020 philosopher of the nygma school and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01612-00371021-00371191 wrote an extensive number of works on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01613-00371192-00371380 the Tibetan practice of zaption and on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01614-00371381-00371647 Buddhist Tantra these include the seven +xqnHVz_6RPg-01615-00371648-00371851 treasures the trilogy of natural east +xqnHVz_6RPg-01616-00371852-00372087 and his trilogy of dispelling darkness +xqnHVz_6RPg-01617-00372088-00372280 longchenpa s-- works provide a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01618-00372281-00372520 philosophical understanding of zakian a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01619-00372521-00372688 defense of Zhongshan in light of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01620-00372689-00372919 sutras as well as practical instructions +xqnHVz_6RPg-01621-00372920-00373213 for longchenpa the ground of reality as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01622-00373214-00373438 luminous clarity rigpa or buddha nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01623-00373439-00373615 in this ground is also the bridge +xqnHVz_6RPg-01624-00373616-00373888 between Sutra and Tantra longchenpa +xqnHVz_6RPg-01625-00373889-00374085 philosophy sought to establish the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01626-00374086-00374251 positive aspects of Buddha nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01627-00374252-00374407 thought against the totally negative +xqnHVz_6RPg-01628-00374408-00374650 theology of madhyamika without straying +xqnHVz_6RPg-01629-00374651-00374929 into the absolutism of dull Popa for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01630-00374930-00375130 longchenpa the basis resumption and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01631-00375131-00375343 tantric practice in Vajrayana ESDA +xqnHVz_6RPg-01632-00375344-00375697 ground Zhi Zhi the eminent Buddha nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01633-00375698-00375984 the primordial a luminous reality that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01634-00375985-00376198 is unconditioned and spontaneously +xqnHVz_6RPg-01635-00376199-00376570 present witches free from all elaborated +xqnHVz_6RPg-01636-00376571-00376876 extremes the 19th century saw the rise +xqnHVz_6RPg-01637-00376877-00377101 of the rim a movement non-sectarian +xqnHVz_6RPg-01638-00377102-00377281 unbiased which sought to push back +xqnHVz_6RPg-01639-00377282-00377484 against the politically dominant gelug +xqnHVz_6RPg-01640-00377485-00377719 schools criticisms of the Sakia kagyu +xqnHVz_6RPg-01641-00377720-00377968 Mingma and bon philosophical views and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01642-00377969-00378166 develop a more eclectic or universal +xqnHVz_6RPg-01643-00378167-00378435 system of textual study jamyang khyentse +xqnHVz_6RPg-01644-00378436-00378988 wangpo 1822 1892 and jamgön control 1813 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01645-00378989-00379321 to 1899 were the founders of rim a the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01646-00379322-00379504 rim a movement came to prominence at a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01647-00379505-00379681 point in Tibetan history when the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01648-00379682-00379855 religious climate had become partisan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01649-00379856-00380140 the aim of the movement was a push +xqnHVz_6RPg-01650-00380141-00380326 towards a middle ground where the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01651-00380327-00380512 various views and styles of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01652-00380513-00380722 different traditions were appreciated +xqnHVz_6RPg-01653-00380723-00380844 for their individual contributions +xqnHVz_6RPg-01654-00380845-00381154 rather than being refuted marginalized +xqnHVz_6RPg-01655-00381155-00381490 or banned philosophically jamgön +xqnHVz_6RPg-01656-00381491-00381712 controlled offended Shen Tong as being +xqnHVz_6RPg-01657-00381713-00381928 compatible with madhyamaka while another +xqnHVz_6RPg-01658-00381929-00382224 rim a scholar jamgön Zhu Mipham Gyatso +xqnHVz_6RPg-01659-00382225-00382573 1846 to 1912 criticized tsong khapa from +xqnHVz_6RPg-01660-00382574-00382884 an English Mipham argued that the view +xqnHVz_6RPg-01661-00382885-00383083 of the middle way is unity Zhong jug +xqnHVz_6RPg-01662-00383084-00383157 meaning that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01663-00383158-00383301 from the ultimate perspective the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01664-00383302-00383494 duality of sentient beings and Buddhas +xqnHVz_6RPg-01665-00383495-00383788 is also dissolved Mipham also affirmed +xqnHVz_6RPg-01666-00383789-00384048 the view of ranked on self emptiness the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01667-00384049-00384327 later nimah scholar Bottrell 1894 to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01668-00384328-00384624 1959 classified the major tibetan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01669-00384625-00384849 madhyamaka positions as shan tong other +xqnHVz_6RPg-01670-00384850-00385063 emptiness ming meringue tong self +xqnHVz_6RPg-01671-00385064-00385233 emptiness and gelug beaten tong +xqnHVz_6RPg-01672-00385234-00385513 emptiness of true existence the main +xqnHVz_6RPg-01673-00385514-00385738 difference between them is their object +xqnHVz_6RPg-01674-00385739-00385993 of negation shank tong states that in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01675-00385994-00386218 authentic experience is empty rank tong +xqnHVz_6RPg-01676-00386219-00386419 negates any conceptual reference and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01677-00386420-00386617 beeban tong negates any true existence +xqnHVz_6RPg-01678-00386618-00386883 the 14th Dalai Lama was also influenced +xqnHVz_6RPg-01679-00386884-00387147 by this eclectic approach having studied +xqnHVz_6RPg-01680-00387148-00387357 under teachers from all major Tibetan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01681-00387358-00387552 Buddhist schools his philosophical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01682-00387553-00387726 position tends to be that the different +xqnHVz_6RPg-01683-00387727-00387873 perspectives on emptiness are +xqnHVz_6RPg-01684-00387874-00388146 complementary there is a tradition of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01685-00388147-00388312 making a distinction between two +xqnHVz_6RPg-01686-00388313-00388479 different perspectives on the nature of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01687-00388480-00388674 emptiness one is when emptiness is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01688-00388675-00388840 presented within a philosophical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01689-00388841-00389031 analysis of the ultimate reality of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01690-00389032-00389199 things in which case it ought to be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01691-00389200-00389382 understood in terms of a non affirming +xqnHVz_6RPg-01692-00389383-00389625 negative phenomena on the other hand +xqnHVz_6RPg-01693-00389626-00389796 when it is discussed from the point of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01694-00389797-00389949 view of experience it should be +xqnHVz_6RPg-01695-00389950-00390153 understood more in terms of an affirming +xqnHVz_6RPg-01696-00390154-00390683 negation 14th dalai lama +xqnHVz_6RPg-01697-00390684-00391239 topic East Asian Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01698-00391240-00391725 topic TNT +xqnHVz_6RPg-01699-00391726-00391974 the schools of Buddhism that had existed +xqnHVz_6RPg-01700-00391975-00392163 in China prior to the emergence of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01701-00392164-00392346 TN tire generally believed to represent +xqnHVz_6RPg-01702-00392347-00392613 direct transplantations from India with +xqnHVz_6RPg-01703-00392614-00392793 little modification to their basic +xqnHVz_6RPg-01704-00392794-00393072 doctrines and methods the TNT school +xqnHVz_6RPg-01705-00393073-00393519 founded by G 538 to 597 was the first +xqnHVz_6RPg-01706-00393520-00393687 truly unique Chinese Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01707-00393688-00393996 philosophical school the doctrine of TNT +xqnHVz_6RPg-01708-00393997-00394271 was based on the Akiane or one vehicle +xqnHVz_6RPg-01709-00394272-00394512 doctrine taught in the Lotus Sutra and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01710-00394513-00394674 sought to bring together all Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-01711-00394675-00394815 teachings and texts into a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01712-00394816-00395052 comprehensively inclusive hierarchical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01713-00395053-00395253 system which placed the Lotus Sutra at +xqnHVz_6RPg-01714-00395254-00395450 the top of this hierarchy +xqnHVz_6RPg-01715-00395451-00395727 TNT's metaphysics as an eminent holism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01716-00395728-00395961 which sees every phenomenon moment or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01717-00395962-00396171 event as conditioned and manifested by +xqnHVz_6RPg-01718-00396172-00396435 the whole of reality every instant of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01719-00396436-00396636 experience is a reflection of every +xqnHVz_6RPg-01720-00396637-00396822 other and hence suffering and Nirvana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01721-00396823-00397029 good and bad Buddhahood and evildoing +xqnHVz_6RPg-01722-00397030-00397242 are all inherently entailed within each +xqnHVz_6RPg-01723-00397243-00397512 other each moment of consciousness is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01724-00397513-00397719 simply the absolute itself infinitely +xqnHVz_6RPg-01725-00397720-00397980 eminent and self reflecting this +xqnHVz_6RPg-01726-00397981-00398175 metaphysics is entailed in the TNT +xqnHVz_6RPg-01727-00398176-00398487 teaching of the three truths which is an +xqnHVz_6RPg-01728-00398488-00398700 extension of the madhyamaka two truths +xqnHVz_6RPg-01729-00398701-00398904 doctrine the three truths are the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01730-00398905-00399096 conventional truth of appearance the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01731-00399097-00399285 truth of emptiness Shunyata and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01732-00399286-00399492 third truth of the exclusive center dan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01733-00399493-00399717 jeong dan john or middle way which is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01734-00399718-00399908 beyond conventional truth and emptiness +xqnHVz_6RPg-01735-00399909-00400185 this third truth is the absolute and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01736-00400186-00400362 expressed by the claim that nothing is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01737-00400363-00400560 neither same nor different than anything +xqnHVz_6RPg-01738-00400561-00400758 else but rather each thing is the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01739-00400759-00400932 absolute totality of all things +xqnHVz_6RPg-01740-00400933-00401157 manifesting as a particular everything +xqnHVz_6RPg-01741-00401158-00401378 is mutually contained within each thing +xqnHVz_6RPg-01742-00401379-00401583 everything is a reflection of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01743-00401584-00401784 ultimate reality of all appearances +xqnHVz_6RPg-01744-00401785-00402048 Zuffa shi Xiong Zuffa Shi Xiong and each +xqnHVz_6RPg-01745-00402049-00402302 thought contains three thousand worlds +xqnHVz_6RPg-01746-00402303-00402573 this perspective allows the Tian Tai +xqnHVz_6RPg-01747-00402574-00402723 school to state such seemingly +xqnHVz_6RPg-01748-00402724-00402954 paradoxical things as evil isn't +xqnHVz_6RPg-01749-00402955-00403140 eradicable from the highest good +xqnHVz_6RPg-01750-00403141-00403479 Buddhahood moreover in Tian Tai Nirvana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01751-00403480-00403686 and samsara are the ultimately the same +xqnHVz_6RPg-01752-00403687-00404019 as GE rights a single unalloyed reality +xqnHVz_6RPg-01753-00404020-00404208 as all there is no entities whatever +xqnHVz_6RPg-01754-00404209-00404562 exists outside of it though GE did write +xqnHVz_6RPg-01755-00404563-00404799 one thought contains three thousand +xqnHVz_6RPg-01756-00404800-00405125 worlds this does not entail idealism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01757-00405126-00405341 according to GE the objects of the true +xqnHVz_6RPg-01758-00405342-00405560 aspects of reality are not something +xqnHVz_6RPg-01759-00405561-00405872 produced by Buddha's gods or men they +xqnHVz_6RPg-01760-00405873-00406064 exist inherently on their own and have +xqnHVz_6RPg-01761-00406065-00406334 no beginning the esoteric meaning 210 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01762-00406335-00406598 this is then a form of realism which +xqnHVz_6RPg-01763-00406599-00406757 sees the mind as real as the world +xqnHVz_6RPg-01764-00406758-00406973 interconnected with and inseparable from +xqnHVz_6RPg-01765-00406974-00407282 it intent I thought ultimate reality is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01766-00407283-00407438 simply the phenomenal world of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01767-00407439-00407720 interconnected events or Dharma's other +xqnHVz_6RPg-01768-00407721-00407939 key figures of Tian Tai thought ours on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01769-00407940-00408404 Rijn 711 - 782 and siming Zhi Li 9 6 0 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01770-00408405-00408692 102 eight genre developed the idea that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01771-00408693-00408863 non-sentient beings have Buddha nature +xqnHVz_6RPg-01772-00408864-00409070 since they are also a reflection of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01773-00409071-00409367 absolute in Japan this school was known +xqnHVz_6RPg-01774-00409368-00409544 as Tendai and was first brought to the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01775-00409545-00410056 island by say chow +xqnHVz_6RPg-01776-00410057-00410403 why in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01777-00410404-00410637 the wyan developed the doctrine of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01778-00410638-00411064 interpenetration or coalescence wily +xqnHVz_6RPg-01779-00411064-00411345 zhang jug sanskrit yuga Netta based on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01780-00411346-00411570 the avatamsaka sutra flower garland +xqnHVz_6RPg-01781-00411571-00411906 sutra a Mahayana scripture why'm holds +xqnHVz_6RPg-01782-00411907-00412114 that all phenomena Sanskrit Dharma's are +xqnHVz_6RPg-01783-00412114-00412366 deeply interconnected mutually arising +xqnHVz_6RPg-01784-00412367-00412557 and that every phenomena contains every +xqnHVz_6RPg-01785-00412558-00412830 other phenomena various metaphors and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01786-00412831-00413020 images are used to illustrate this idea +xqnHVz_6RPg-01787-00413021-00413301 the first is known as indras net the net +xqnHVz_6RPg-01788-00413302-00413478 is set with jewels which have the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01789-00413479-00413670 extraordinary property that they reflect +xqnHVz_6RPg-01790-00413671-00413835 all of the other jewels while the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01791-00413836-00414016 reflections also contain every other +xqnHVz_6RPg-01792-00414017-00414309 reflection at infinitum the second image +xqnHVz_6RPg-01793-00414310-00414543 is that of the world text this image +xqnHVz_6RPg-01794-00414544-00414739 portrays the world as consisting of an +xqnHVz_6RPg-01795-00414739-00414930 enormous text which is as large as the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01796-00414931-00415179 universe itself the words of the text +xqnHVz_6RPg-01797-00415180-00415372 are composed of the phenomena that make +xqnHVz_6RPg-01798-00415372-00415659 up the world however every atom of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01799-00415660-00415854 world contains the whole text within it +xqnHVz_6RPg-01800-00415855-00416085 it is the work of the Buddha to let out +xqnHVz_6RPg-01801-00416086-00416289 the text so that beings can be liberated +xqnHVz_6RPg-01802-00416290-00416739 from suffering FFA's Aang FA sang 643 2 +xqnHVz_6RPg-01803-00416740-00417009 712 one of the most important wyan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01804-00417010-00417195 thinkers wrote essay on the Golden Lion +xqnHVz_6RPg-01805-00417196-00417424 and treatise on the 5 teachings which +xqnHVz_6RPg-01806-00417425-00417574 contain other metaphors for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01807-00417575-00417882 interpenetration of reality he also used +xqnHVz_6RPg-01808-00417883-00418049 the metaphor of the house of mirrors +xqnHVz_6RPg-01809-00418050-00418287 pheasant reduced the distinction of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01810-00418288-00418599 realm of principle and the realm of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01811-00418600-00418870 things this theory was further developed +xqnHVz_6RPg-01812-00418871-00419003 by Chengguan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01813-00419004-00419397 738 to 839 into the major ym thesis of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01814-00419398-00419697 the fourfold dharma Dante Dharma realm +xqnHVz_6RPg-01815-00419698-00419895 the realm of principle the realm of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01816-00419896-00420058 things the realm of the non-interference +xqnHVz_6RPg-01817-00420059-00420274 between principle and things and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01818-00420275-00420429 realm of the non-interference of all +xqnHVz_6RPg-01819-00420430-00420712 things the first two are the universal +xqnHVz_6RPg-01820-00420713-00420883 in the particular the third is the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01821-00420884-00421068 interpenetration of universal in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01822-00421069-00421216 particular and the fourth is the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01823-00421217-00421435 interpenetration of all particulars the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01824-00421435-00421662 third truth was explained by the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01825-00421663-00421879 metaphor of a golden lion the gold is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01826-00421880-00422077 the universal and the particular as the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01827-00422078-00422247 shape and features of the lion while +xqnHVz_6RPg-01828-00422248-00422460 both TNT and wyan hold to the inter +xqnHVz_6RPg-01829-00422461-00422647 penetration and interconnection of all +xqnHVz_6RPg-01830-00422647-00422820 things their metaphysics have some +xqnHVz_6RPg-01831-00422821-00423081 differences why in metaphysics is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01832-00423082-00423274 influenced by yogacara thought and is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01833-00423275-00423558 closer to idealism the avatamsaka sutra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01834-00423559-00423795 compares the phenomenal world to a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01835-00423796-00423979 dream an illusion and a magicians +xqnHVz_6RPg-01836-00423980-00424260 conjuring the sutra states nothing has +xqnHVz_6RPg-01837-00424261-00424518 true reality location beginning an end +xqnHVz_6RPg-01838-00424519-00424800 or substantial nature the avatamsaka +xqnHVz_6RPg-01839-00424801-00425079 also states that the triple world is +xqnHVz_6RPg-01840-00425080-00425433 illusory it is only made by one mind and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01841-00425434-00425721 Fesenko is this by writing outside of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01842-00425722-00425898 mind there is not a single thing that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01843-00425899-00426210 can be apprehended furthermore according +xqnHVz_6RPg-01844-00426211-00426445 to why in thought each mind creates its +xqnHVz_6RPg-01845-00426446-00426643 own world according to their mental +xqnHVz_6RPg-01846-00426643-00426972 patterns and these worlds are infinite +xqnHVz_6RPg-01847-00426973-00427252 in kind and constantly arising and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01848-00427253-00427323 passing away +xqnHVz_6RPg-01849-00427324-00427612 however in wyan mind is not real either +xqnHVz_6RPg-01850-00427613-00427966 but also empty the true reality in wyan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01851-00427967-00428293 the noumenon or principle is likened to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01852-00428293-00428500 a mirror while phenomena are compared to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01853-00428501-00428758 reflections in the mirror it is also +xqnHVz_6RPg-01854-00428759-00428952 compared to the ocean and phenomena two +xqnHVz_6RPg-01855-00428953-00429256 waves in Korea this school was known as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01856-00429257-00429525 Hwa eom and is represented in the work +xqnHVz_6RPg-01857-00429526-00429985 of wonhyo 617 2 686 who also wrote about +xqnHVz_6RPg-01858-00429985-00430195 the idea of essence function a central +xqnHVz_6RPg-01859-00430196-00430408 theme in Korean Buddhist thought in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01860-00430409-00430677 Japan lion is known as kagan and one of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01861-00430678-00430881 its major proponents was Mayo who also +xqnHVz_6RPg-01862-00430882-00431325 introduced tantric practices +xqnHVz_6RPg-01863-00431326-00431910 topic Qian and Japanese Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01864-00431910-00432150 the philosophy of Chinese Chan Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01865-00432151-00432384 and Japanese Zen is based on various +xqnHVz_6RPg-01866-00432385-00432456 sources +xqnHVz_6RPg-01867-00432457-00432702 these include madhyamaka yogacara the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01868-00432703-00432927 Lanco Vitara sutra lion and the buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-01869-00432928-00433230 nature texts an important issue in Chan +xqnHVz_6RPg-01870-00433231-00433449 is that of sub i tis amor sudden +xqnHVz_6RPg-01871-00433450-00433647 enlightenment the idea that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01872-00433647-00433842 enlightenment happens all at once in a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01873-00433843-00433950 flash of insight +xqnHVz_6RPg-01874-00433951-00434220 this view was promoted by Shen we and as +xqnHVz_6RPg-01875-00434221-00434379 a central issue discussed in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01876-00434380-00434484 platform Sutra +xqnHVz_6RPg-01877-00434485-00434832 aki-chan Scripture composed in China why +xqnHVz_6RPg-01878-00434833-00435060 in philosophy also had an influence on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01879-00435060-00435303 Chan the theory of the fourfold Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01880-00435304-00435501 da2 influenced the five ranks of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01881-00435502-00435903 Tangshan Lang G 806 to 869 the founder +xqnHVz_6RPg-01882-00435904-00436137 of the cow-dung Chan lineage guifang +xqnHVz_6RPg-01883-00436138-00436413 Zhang me who is also a patriarch of Y in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01884-00436414-00436589 Buddhism wrote extensively on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01885-00436591-00436782 philosophy of Chan and on the avatamsaka +xqnHVz_6RPg-01886-00436783-00437154 sutra Japanese Buddhism during the 6th +xqnHVz_6RPg-01887-00437155-00437376 and 7th centuries saw an increase in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01888-00437377-00437577 proliferation of new schools and forms +xqnHVz_6RPg-01889-00437578-00437763 of thought a period known as the six +xqnHVz_6RPg-01890-00437764-00438005 schools of Nara Nantou Roku Shu the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01891-00438006-00438464 Kamakura period 1185 to 1333 also saw +xqnHVz_6RPg-01892-00438466-00438668 another flurry of intellectual activity +xqnHVz_6RPg-01893-00438668-00438918 during this period the influential +xqnHVz_6RPg-01894-00438918-00439302 figure of Nichiren 1222 to 1280 - made +xqnHVz_6RPg-01895-00439303-00439497 the practice and universal message of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01896-00439497-00439647 the Lotus Sutra more readily available +xqnHVz_6RPg-01897-00439647-00439779 to the population +xqnHVz_6RPg-01898-00439780-00440034 he is of particular importance in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01899-00440035-00440217 history of thought and religion as his +xqnHVz_6RPg-01900-00440218-00440418 teachings constitute a separate sect of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01901-00440418-00440634 Buddhism one of the only major sects to +xqnHVz_6RPg-01902-00440635-00440864 have originated in Japan also during the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01903-00440866-00441110 Kamakura period the founder of Soto Zen +xqnHVz_6RPg-01904-00441112-00441489 Dogen 1202 1253 wrote many works on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01905-00441489-00441702 philosophy of zen and the Shobha Genzo +xqnHVz_6RPg-01906-00441703-00442014 as his magnum opus in Korea Chanel was +xqnHVz_6RPg-01907-00442014-00442221 an important exponent of Sohn Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01908-00442222-00442680 at around the same time +xqnHVz_6RPg-01909-00442681-00443139 pick esoteric Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-01910-00443139-00443412 tantric Buddhism arrived in China in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01911-00443413-00443626 seventh century during the Tang Dynasty +xqnHVz_6RPg-01912-00443627-00443929 in China this form of Buddhism is known +xqnHVz_6RPg-01913-00443930-00444259 as ms on me zhang or esoteric school and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01914-00444260-00444539 genuine true word sanskrit mantrayana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01915-00444540-00445099 Kukai ad 774 - 835 is a major Japanese +xqnHVz_6RPg-01916-00445100-00445314 Buddhist philosopher and the founder of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01917-00445315-00445531 the tantric Shingen true word school in +xqnHVz_6RPg-01918-00445532-00445804 Japan he wrote on a wide variety of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01919-00445805-00446056 topics such as public policy language +xqnHVz_6RPg-01920-00446057-00446305 the arts literature music and religion +xqnHVz_6RPg-01921-00446306-00446578 after studying in China under hua Guo +xqnHVz_6RPg-01922-00446579-00446787 Kukai brought together various elements +xqnHVz_6RPg-01923-00446788-00447022 into a cohesive philosophical system of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01924-00447022-00447337 Shingen Takei's philosophy is based on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01925-00447338-00447526 the Mahavira kana tantra and the vara +xqnHVz_6RPg-01926-00447527-00447764 sakura sutra both from the 7th century +xqnHVz_6RPg-01927-00447765-00448078 his bankin mitsuna kiran treatise on the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01928-00448079-00448260 differences between esoteric and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01929-00448262-00448453 exoteric teachings outlines the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01930-00448454-00448668 difference between exoteric mainstream +xqnHVz_6RPg-01931-00448669-00448927 mahayana buddhism kenya and esoteric +xqnHVz_6RPg-01932-00448928-00449245 tantric Buddhism Makia Kukai provided +xqnHVz_6RPg-01933-00449246-00449404 the theoretical framework for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01934-00449405-00449578 esoteric Buddhist practices of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01935-00449579-00449650 mantrayana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01936-00449651-00449827 bringing the gap between the doctrine of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01937-00449828-00450109 the sutras and tantric practices at the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01938-00450110-00450312 foundation of kikis thought as the try +xqnHVz_6RPg-01939-00450313-00450520 kya doctrine which holds there are three +xqnHVz_6RPg-01940-00450521-00450783 bodies of the Buddha +xqnHVz_6RPg-01941-00450784-00451070 according to kukai esoteric Buddhism has +xqnHVz_6RPg-01942-00451071-00451368 the Dharmakaya jpn Hashem embodiment of +xqnHVz_6RPg-01943-00451368-00451599 truth as its source which is associated +xqnHVz_6RPg-01944-00451600-00451799 with virocana Buddha day Nietzsche +xqnHVz_6RPg-01945-00451800-00452087 Hashem is embodied absolute reality and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01946-00452088-00452352 truth Hashem is mostly ineffable but can +xqnHVz_6RPg-01947-00452353-00452514 be experienced through esoteric +xqnHVz_6RPg-01948-00452514-00452714 practices such as mute resin mantras +xqnHVz_6RPg-01949-00452715-00452943 while Mahayana is taught by the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01950-00452943-00453174 historical Buddha nerman kya it does not +xqnHVz_6RPg-01951-00453175-00453381 have ultimate reality as its source are +xqnHVz_6RPg-01952-00453382-00453585 the practices to experience the esoteric +xqnHVz_6RPg-01953-00453585-00453845 truth for Shingen from an enlightened +xqnHVz_6RPg-01954-00453846-00454020 perspective the whole phenomenal world +xqnHVz_6RPg-01955-00454021-00454239 itself is also the teaching of virocana +xqnHVz_6RPg-01956-00454239-00454512 the body of the world it sounds and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01957-00454513-00454712 movements is the body of truth Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-01958-00454713-00454914 and furthermore it is also identical +xqnHVz_6RPg-01959-00454914-00455087 with the personal body of the cosmic +xqnHVz_6RPg-01960-00455088-00455408 Buddha for Kukai world actions persons +xqnHVz_6RPg-01961-00455409-00455597 and buddhas are all part of the cosmic +xqnHVz_6RPg-01962-00455598-00455802 monologue of virocana they are the truth +xqnHVz_6RPg-01963-00455803-00455945 being preached to its own self +xqnHVz_6RPg-01964-00455946-00456243 manifestations this is Hashem seppo +xqnHVz_6RPg-01965-00456243-00456447 literally the Dharmakaya is expounding +xqnHVz_6RPg-01966-00456447-00456579 of the Dharma which can be accessed +xqnHVz_6RPg-01967-00456580-00456758 through mantra which is the cosmic +xqnHVz_6RPg-01968-00456759-00456951 language of virocana emanating through +xqnHVz_6RPg-01969-00456952-00457176 cosmic vibration concentrated and sound +xqnHVz_6RPg-01970-00457177-00457479 in a broad sense the universe itself a +xqnHVz_6RPg-01971-00457480-00457680 huge text expressing ultimate truth +xqnHVz_6RPg-01972-00457681-00457981 Dharma which must be read +xqnHVz_6RPg-01973-00457982-00458383 Danny Qi means great son and Kukai uses +xqnHVz_6RPg-01974-00458384-00458536 this as a metaphor for the great +xqnHVz_6RPg-01975-00458537-00458729 primordial Buddha whose teaching and +xqnHVz_6RPg-01976-00458730-00458923 presence illuminates and pervades all +xqnHVz_6RPg-01977-00458924-00459181 like the light of the Sun this imminent +xqnHVz_6RPg-01978-00459182-00459361 presence also means that every being +xqnHVz_6RPg-01979-00459362-00459571 already has access to enlightenment +xqnHVz_6RPg-01980-00459572-00459775 Ganga ku and Buddha nature and that +xqnHVz_6RPg-01981-00459776-00459907 because of this there is the possibility +xqnHVz_6RPg-01982-00459908-00460225 of becoming Buddha in this very embodied +xqnHVz_6RPg-01983-00460226-00460314 existence +xqnHVz_6RPg-01984-00460315-00460606 silca Shin job Utsu this is achieved +xqnHVz_6RPg-01985-00460607-00460792 because of the non-dual relationship +xqnHVz_6RPg-01986-00460793-00460996 between the macrocosm of hashem and the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01987-00460997-00461238 microcosm of the shingon practitioner +xqnHVz_6RPg-01988-00461239-00461477 khakis exposition of what has been +xqnHVz_6RPg-01989-00461478-00461800 called shingen's metaphysics is based on +xqnHVz_6RPg-01990-00461801-00462016 the three aspects of the cosmic truth or +xqnHVz_6RPg-01991-00462017-00462307 Hashem body appearance and function the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01992-00462308-00462523 body is the physical and mental elements +xqnHVz_6RPg-01993-00462524-00462673 which are the body and mind of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-01994-00462674-00462862 cosmic Buddha and which is also empty +xqnHVz_6RPg-01995-00462863-00463066 Shunyata the physical universe for +xqnHVz_6RPg-01996-00463067-00463246 shingen contains the interconnected +xqnHVz_6RPg-01997-00463247-00463522 mental and physical event the appearance +xqnHVz_6RPg-01998-00463523-00463720 aspect is the form of the world which +xqnHVz_6RPg-01999-00463721-00463918 appears as mandalas of interconnected +xqnHVz_6RPg-02000-00463919-00464110 realms and is depicted in mandala art +xqnHVz_6RPg-02001-00464111-00464392 such the womb realm mandala the function +xqnHVz_6RPg-02002-00464393-00464575 is the movement and change which happens +xqnHVz_6RPg-02003-00464576-00464761 in the world which includes change in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02004-00464762-00465040 forms sounds and thought these forms +xqnHVz_6RPg-02005-00465041-00465232 sounds and thoughts are expressed by the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02006-00465233-00465421 shingon practitioner in various rituals +xqnHVz_6RPg-02007-00465422-00465631 and tantric practices which allow them +xqnHVz_6RPg-02008-00465632-00465802 to connect with and inter resonate with +xqnHVz_6RPg-02009-00465803-00465922 de nietzsche and hence reach +xqnHVz_6RPg-02010-00465923-00466341 enlightenment here and now +xqnHVz_6RPg-02011-00466342-00466909 topic modern philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-02012-00466910-00467193 in Sri Lanka Buddhist modernists such as +xqnHVz_6RPg-02013-00467195-00467545 Anna Garrick adharma Paulo 1864 to 1933 +xqnHVz_6RPg-02014-00467546-00467767 and the American convert Henry steel +xqnHVz_6RPg-02015-00467768-00467950 Olcott sought to show that Buddhism was +xqnHVz_6RPg-02016-00467951-00468118 rational and compatible with modern +xqnHVz_6RPg-02017-00468118-00468337 scientific ideas such as the theory of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02018-00468338-00468634 evolution Dharmapala also argued that +xqnHVz_6RPg-02019-00468635-00468826 buddhism included a strong social +xqnHVz_6RPg-02020-00468827-00469024 element interpreting it as liberal +xqnHVz_6RPg-02021-00469025-00469381 altruistic and democratic knj Attili +xqnHVz_6RPg-02022-00469382-00469558 groped the classic modern account of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02023-00469559-00469764 buddhist epistemology early Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02024-00469766-00470064 theory of knowledge 1963 and his student +xqnHVz_6RPg-02025-00470066-00470257 David galoop Ahana wrote on the history +xqnHVz_6RPg-02026-00470258-00470514 of Buddhist thought and psychology other +xqnHVz_6RPg-02027-00470516-00470737 important Sri Lankan Buddhist thinkers +xqnHVz_6RPg-02028-00470738-00471016 include venu ananda concept and reality +xqnHVz_6RPg-02029-00471017-00471283 walpole arugula pamela whassat hadiza +xqnHVz_6RPg-02030-00471284-00471604 Buddhist ethics 1987 gonna pala Dharma +xqnHVz_6RPg-02031-00471605-00471768 Siri a Buddhist critique of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02032-00471770-00472099 Christian concept of God 1988 PD premise +xqnHVz_6RPg-02033-00472100-00472306 Erie and RG 2's Weda Mooney in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02034-00472307-00472528 twentieth-century China the modernist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02035-00472529-00472870 Thai shoe 1890 to 1947 advocated a +xqnHVz_6RPg-02036-00472871-00473122 reform and revival of Buddhism his +xqnHVz_6RPg-02037-00473122-00473314 promoted and idea of a Buddhist Pure +xqnHVz_6RPg-02038-00473314-00473521 Land not as a metaphysical place in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02039-00473522-00473707 Buddhist cosmology but as something +xqnHVz_6RPg-02040-00473708-00473896 possible to create here and now in this +xqnHVz_6RPg-02041-00473897-00474060 very world which could be achieved +xqnHVz_6RPg-02042-00474062-00474297 through a Buddhism for human life +xqnHVz_6RPg-02043-00474299-00474597 Chinese Ren Sheng Fujian pinyin ring +xqnHVz_6RPg-02044-00474599-00474754 shank faux jaw which was free of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02045-00474755-00475033 supernatural beliefs Thai shoe also +xqnHVz_6RPg-02046-00475034-00475228 wrote on the connections between modern +xqnHVz_6RPg-02047-00475229-00475450 science and Buddhism ultimately holding +xqnHVz_6RPg-02048-00475451-00475612 that scientific methods can only +xqnHVz_6RPg-02049-00475613-00475801 corroborate the Buddhist doctrine they +xqnHVz_6RPg-02050-00475802-00476056 can never advanced beyond it like Tai +xqnHVz_6RPg-02051-00476057-00476460 Xiu Yin shun 1906 to 2005 advocated a +xqnHVz_6RPg-02052-00476462-00476671 form of humanistic Buddhism grounded in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02053-00476672-00476889 concern for humanitarian issues and his +xqnHVz_6RPg-02054-00476891-00477022 students and followers have been +xqnHVz_6RPg-02055-00477022-00477226 influential in promoting humanistic +xqnHVz_6RPg-02056-00477227-00477514 Buddhism in Taiwan this period also saw +xqnHVz_6RPg-02057-00477514-00477754 a revival of the study of why she yoga +xqnHVz_6RPg-02058-00477755-00478221 Chara by Jung Renton 1837 to 1901 in Wu +xqnHVz_6RPg-02059-00478222-00478684 1871 to 1943 and Liang chumming 1893 to +xqnHVz_6RPg-02060-00478685-00478963 1988 one of Tibetan Buddhism most +xqnHVz_6RPg-02061-00478964-00479179 influential modernist thinkers as gende +xqnHVz_6RPg-02062-00479180-00479560 enjoyful 1903 to 1951 who according to +xqnHVz_6RPg-02063-00479560-00479827 Donald s Lopez jr. was arguably the most +xqnHVz_6RPg-02064-00479828-00480025 important Tibetan intellectual of the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02065-00480026-00480127 20th century +xqnHVz_6RPg-02066-00480128-00480283 gende and joyful travelled through +xqnHVz_6RPg-02067-00480284-00480468 India with the indian buddhist rahul +xqnHVz_6RPg-02068-00480470-00480688 sankrityayan and wrote a wide variety of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02069-00480689-00480904 material including works promoting the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02070-00480905-00481078 importance of modern science to his +xqnHVz_6RPg-02071-00481079-00481267 Tibetan countrymen and also Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02072-00481268-00481477 philosophical texts such as adornment +xqnHVz_6RPg-02073-00481478-00481726 for Nagarjuna's dot another very +xqnHVz_6RPg-02074-00481727-00481942 influential Tibetan Buddhist modernist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02075-00481943-00482131 was chögyam trungpa whose Shambhala +xqnHVz_6RPg-02076-00482132-00482302 training was meant to be more suitable +xqnHVz_6RPg-02077-00482303-00482503 to modern Western sensitivities by +xqnHVz_6RPg-02078-00482504-00482685 offering a vision of secular +xqnHVz_6RPg-02079-00482687-00482968 enlightenment in Southeast Asia thinkers +xqnHVz_6RPg-02080-00482968-00483222 such as Buddha dasa the Qin yahan Sulak +xqnHVz_6RPg-02081-00483224-00483796 Sivir AXA and Aung San Suu Kyi and have +xqnHVz_6RPg-02082-00483797-00483906 written on the socio-political +xqnHVz_6RPg-02083-00483907-00484177 application of Buddhism likewise +xqnHVz_6RPg-02084-00484178-00484399 Buddhist approaches to economic ethics +xqnHVz_6RPg-02085-00484400-00484606 Buddhist economics have been explored in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02086-00484607-00484852 the works of EF Schumacher priyad paedo +xqnHVz_6RPg-02087-00484853-00485059 Neville Karen at a lake and Padma Sri +xqnHVz_6RPg-02088-00485060-00485347 DaSilva the study of the Pali abhidhamma +xqnHVz_6RPg-02089-00485347-00485572 tradition continued to be influential in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02090-00485572-00485785 Myanmar where it was developed by monks +xqnHVz_6RPg-02091-00485785-00486093 such as Leticia da in mahasaya da +xqnHVz_6RPg-02092-00486093-00486360 Japanese Buddhist philosophy was heavily +xqnHVz_6RPg-02093-00486362-00486547 influenced by the work of the Kyoto +xqnHVz_6RPg-02094-00486547-00486808 School which included Katara Nishida KJ +xqnHVz_6RPg-02095-00486809-00487051 Misha tani Hajime Tanabe and ma hsiao +xqnHVz_6RPg-02096-00487052-00487293 Abe these thinkers brought Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02097-00487295-00487471 ideas in dialogue with Western +xqnHVz_6RPg-02098-00487472-00487660 philosophy especially European +xqnHVz_6RPg-02099-00487660-00487968 phenomenologist sand existentialists the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02100-00487970-00488149 most important trend in Japanese +xqnHVz_6RPg-02101-00488150-00488338 Buddhist thought after the formation of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02102-00488339-00488554 the Kyoto School as critical Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-02103-00488555-00488749 which argues against several Mahayana +xqnHVz_6RPg-02104-00488750-00488953 concepts such as Buddha nature and +xqnHVz_6RPg-02105-00488954-00489199 original enlightenment in Nichiren +xqnHVz_6RPg-02106-00489200-00489433 Buddhism the work of Daisaku Ikeda has +xqnHVz_6RPg-02107-00489434-00489745 also been popular the Japanese Zen +xqnHVz_6RPg-02108-00489746-00490222 Buddhists DT Suzuki 1870 to 1966 was +xqnHVz_6RPg-02109-00490222-00490432 instrumental in bringing Zen Buddhism to +xqnHVz_6RPg-02110-00490433-00490591 the west and his Buddhist modernist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02111-00490592-00490762 works were very influential in the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02112-00490763-00490884 United States +xqnHVz_6RPg-02113-00490885-00491122 Suzuki's worldview was a Zen Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-02114-00491122-00491310 influenced by romanticism and +xqnHVz_6RPg-02115-00491312-00491503 transcendentalism which promoted a +xqnHVz_6RPg-02116-00491504-00491730 spiritual freedom as a spontaneous +xqnHVz_6RPg-02117-00491731-00491962 emancipatory consciousness that +xqnHVz_6RPg-02118-00491963-00492210 transcends rational intellect and social +xqnHVz_6RPg-02119-00492212-00492510 convention this idea of Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-02120-00492512-00492672 influenced the beat writers and a +xqnHVz_6RPg-02121-00492674-00492880 contemporary representative of Western +xqnHVz_6RPg-02122-00492881-00493180 Buddhist romanticism as Gary Snyder the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02123-00493181-00493405 American Theravada Buddhist monk panis +xqnHVz_6RPg-02124-00493406-00493582 ro Baku has critiqued Buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02125-00493583-00493657 romanticist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02126-00493658-00493935 in his writings Western Buddhists +xqnHVz_6RPg-02127-00493937-00494149 monastics and priests such as nana vir +xqnHVz_6RPg-02128-00494150-00494404 ethera bhikkhu bodhi nie anapana Kythera +xqnHVz_6RPg-02129-00494405-00494662 robert Aitken Tigan dan laden matthieu +xqnHVz_6RPg-02130-00494663-00494845 ricard have written texts on buddhist +xqnHVz_6RPg-02131-00494846-00495118 philosophy a feature of buddhist thought +xqnHVz_6RPg-02132-00495118-00495292 in the west has been a desire for +xqnHVz_6RPg-02133-00495293-00495487 dialogue an integration with modern +xqnHVz_6RPg-02134-00495488-00495691 science and psychology and various +xqnHVz_6RPg-02135-00495692-00495880 modern buddhists such as alan wallace +xqnHVz_6RPg-02136-00495881-00496192 james h austin mark Epstein and the 14th +xqnHVz_6RPg-02137-00496193-00496368 Dalai Lama have worked and written on +xqnHVz_6RPg-02138-00496370-00496441 this issue +xqnHVz_6RPg-02139-00496442-00496702 another area of convergence has been +xqnHVz_6RPg-02140-00496703-00496918 Buddhism and environmentalism which is +xqnHVz_6RPg-02141-00496918-00497127 explored in the work of Joanna Macy +xqnHVz_6RPg-02142-00497128-00497407 another western Buddhist philosophical +xqnHVz_6RPg-02143-00497408-00497605 trend has been the project to secularize +xqnHVz_6RPg-02144-00497606-00497824 Buddhism as seen in the works of Stephen +xqnHVz_6RPg-02145-00497825-00498114 bachelor in the West comparative +xqnHVz_6RPg-02146-00498116-00498322 philosophy between Buddhist and Western +xqnHVz_6RPg-02147-00498322-00498517 thought began with the work of Charles a +xqnHVz_6RPg-02148-00498518-00498718 Moore who founded the journal philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-02149-00498718-00499006 East and West contemporary Western +xqnHVz_6RPg-02150-00499007-00499228 academics such as Marx iterates Jan +xqnHVz_6RPg-02151-00499229-00499459 Westerhof Joan Arden Canary Miri +xqnHVz_6RPg-02152-00499460-00499764 albahari Owen Flanagan Damien Qian Tom +xqnHVz_6RPg-02153-00499766-00500010 Tillman's David Loy Evan Thompson and +xqnHVz_6RPg-02154-00500012-00500197 Jay Garfield have written various works +xqnHVz_6RPg-02155-00500197-00500389 which interpret Buddhist ideas through +xqnHVz_6RPg-02156-00500389-00500801 Western philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-02157-00500802-00501431 topic comparison with other philosophies +xqnHVz_6RPg-02158-00501432-00501685 Baruch Spinoza though he argued for the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02159-00501687-00501905 existence of a permanent reality asserts +xqnHVz_6RPg-02160-00501906-00502072 that all phenomenal existence is +xqnHVz_6RPg-02161-00502074-00502352 transitory in his opinion sorrow is +xqnHVz_6RPg-02162-00502353-00502577 conquered by finding an object of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02163-00502578-00502787 knowledge which is not transient not +xqnHVz_6RPg-02164-00502788-00503006 ephemeral but as immutable permanent +xqnHVz_6RPg-02165-00503007-00503306 everlasting the Buddha taught that the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02166-00503307-00503521 only thing which is eternal is nirvana +xqnHVz_6RPg-02167-00503522-00503813 David Hume after a relentless analysis +xqnHVz_6RPg-02168-00503814-00504005 of the mind concluded that consciousness +xqnHVz_6RPg-02169-00504006-00504287 consists of fleeting mental states hues +xqnHVz_6RPg-02170-00504288-00504530 bundle theory as a very similar concept +xqnHVz_6RPg-02171-00504531-00504685 to the Buddhists Candice though his +xqnHVz_6RPg-02172-00504687-00504893 skepticism about causation lead him to +xqnHVz_6RPg-02173-00504893-00505100 opposite conclusions in other areas +xqnHVz_6RPg-02174-00505101-00505297 Arthur Schopenhauer's philosophy +xqnHVz_6RPg-02175-00505297-00505559 parallels Buddhism in his affirmation of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02176-00505560-00505751 asceticism and renunciation as a +xqnHVz_6RPg-02177-00505752-00506075 response to suffering and desire Ludwig +xqnHVz_6RPg-02178-00506076-00506396 Wittgenstein's language game closely +xqnHVz_6RPg-02179-00506397-00506579 paralleled a warning that intellectual +xqnHVz_6RPg-02180-00506580-00506764 speculation or pappan saw as an +xqnHVz_6RPg-02181-00506766-00506968 impediment to understanding as found in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02182-00506970-00507187 the Buddhist parable of the poison arrow +xqnHVz_6RPg-02183-00507188-00507329 Friedrich Nietzsche +xqnHVz_6RPg-02184-00507330-00507530 although himself dismissive of Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-02185-00507531-00507713 is yet another nihilism had a similar +xqnHVz_6RPg-02186-00507714-00507992 impermanent view of the self heidegger's +xqnHVz_6RPg-02187-00507993-00508193 ideas on Being and Nothingness have been +xqnHVz_6RPg-02188-00508193-00508391 held by some to be similar to Buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-02189-00508392-00508580 today an alternative approach to the +xqnHVz_6RPg-02190-00508581-00508739 comparison of Buddhist thought with +xqnHVz_6RPg-02191-00508739-00508955 Western philosophy is to use the concept +xqnHVz_6RPg-02192-00508956-00509114 of the middle way in Buddhism as a +xqnHVz_6RPg-02193-00509114-00509288 critical tool for the assessment of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02194-00509289-00509591 Western philosophies in this way western +xqnHVz_6RPg-02195-00509592-00509771 philosophies can be classified in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02196-00509772-00509933 Buddhist terms as a journalist or +xqnHVz_6RPg-02197-00509934-00510176 nihilist in a Buddhist view all +xqnHVz_6RPg-02198-00510177-00510320 philosophies are considered +xqnHVz_6RPg-02199-00510321-00510539 non-essential views didthis and not to +xqnHVz_6RPg-02200-00510539-00510897 be clung to +xqnHVz_6RPg-02201-00510897-00511420 topic see also +xqnHVz_6RPg-02202-00511421-00511785 Buddhism and science Buddhist ethics +xqnHVz_6RPg-02203-00511785-00512268 Buddhist logic critical Buddhism God in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02204-00512270-00512557 Buddhism list of Buddhist terms and +xqnHVz_6RPg-02205-00512558-00512992 concepts list of Buddhist topics list of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02206-00512993-00513145 sutras +xqnHVz_6RPg-02207-00513146-00513541 madhyamaka mindstream reality in +xqnHVz_6RPg-02208-00513542-00513883 buddhism +xqnHVz_6RPg-02209-00513884-00514421 topic notes +xqnHVz_6RPg-02210-00514422-00514939 topic references +xqnHVz_6RPg-02211-00514940-00515443 topic sources +xqnHVz_6RPg-02212-00515444-00515988 topic external links +xqnHVz_6RPg-02213-00515989-00516422 Buddhism in a nutshell 2500 years of +xqnHVz_6RPg-02214-00516424-00516860 Buddhism by professor py Bop 1956 at +xqnHVz_6RPg-02215-00516862-00517188 archive org 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+xt6g2YD5Hro-00027-00006720-00007037 use AR and VR in the classroom really +xt6g2YD5Hro-00028-00007038-00007292 easy in the LRS 1120 because it's built +xt6g2YD5Hro-00029-00007293-00007562 right in so we have lab time there but +xt6g2YD5Hro-00030-00007563-00007810 generally speaking we analyze and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00031-00007811-00008081 critique media narratives of the future +xt6g2YD5Hro-00032-00008081-00008456 in literature in transmedia and then we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00033-00008457-00008671 also read theories such as touring and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00034-00008672-00008888 then we physically explore those +xt6g2YD5Hro-00035-00008889-00009406 theoretical critiques hi I'm Peter young +xt6g2YD5Hro-00036-00009407-00009749 and professor of new media technologies +xt6g2YD5Hro-00037-00009750-00009910 the school of technological of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00038-00009911-00010081 Journalism and mass communications at +xt6g2YD5Hro-00039-00010082-00010463 San Jose State University and my project +xt6g2YD5Hro-00040-00010464-00010873 really is focused on 360 vr storytelling +xt6g2YD5Hro-00041-00010874-00011092 standards and the operative word is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00042-00011093-00011327 standards one of the things we know from +xt6g2YD5Hro-00043-00011328-00011558 journalism and mass common is that they +xt6g2YD5Hro-00044-00011559-00011984 have for eons been driven by standards +xt6g2YD5Hro-00045-00011985-00012170 and all of a sudden we have all sorts of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00046-00012171-00012488 new technology and that's throwing a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00047-00012489-00012692 very large wrench in the wheel of life +xt6g2YD5Hro-00048-00012693-00012890 and so we're starting to see some +xt6g2YD5Hro-00049-00012891-00013190 ethical problems some conundrums of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00050-00013191-00013349 people in the field +xt6g2YD5Hro-00051-00013350-00013619 so we're gonna be examining all of these +xt6g2YD5Hro-00052-00013619-00013784 issues for the remainder of this +xt6g2YD5Hro-00053-00013785-00014036 semester in my course as well as into +xt6g2YD5Hro-00054-00014037-00014252 the spring and one additional shout out +xt6g2YD5Hro-00055-00014253-00014483 today we just turned on our website +xt6g2YD5Hro-00056-00014484-00014816 you'll likely like the website address +xt6g2YD5Hro-00057-00014816-00015394 it's very nice 360 news dot today can't +xt6g2YD5Hro-00058-00015395-00015476 get any better than that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00059-00015477-00015719 anyway it just it just went up today so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00060-00015719-00016022 I invite everybody to take a look and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00061-00016022-00016250 it's a work in progress so please add +xt6g2YD5Hro-00062-00016251-00016493 all my brothers and sisters from all 22 +xt6g2YD5Hro-00063-00016494-00016765 other campuses thank you for your home +xt6g2YD5Hro-00064-00016766-00017099 hi I'm Bernie Dodge I'm professor of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00065-00017100-00017354 learning design and technology here on +xt6g2YD5Hro-00066-00017355-00017572 this campus which is also housed in the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00067-00017573-00017869 School of Journalism and Media Studies +xt6g2YD5Hro-00068-00017870-00018197 I'm here because I teach in the lab that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00069-00018198-00018469 some of you saw today the vital lab and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00070-00018470-00018806 I teach I don't teach with VR and AR I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00071-00018807-00019337 teach about the VR and AR etc so what I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00072-00019338-00019688 what I have to offers is sort of how do +xt6g2YD5Hro-00073-00019689-00019862 you do that especially when you don't +xt6g2YD5Hro-00074-00019863-00020030 yet have the kind of lab that we have +xt6g2YD5Hro-00075-00020031-00020246 here and the kind of equipment and and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00076-00020247-00020441 where the technology is not quite ready +xt6g2YD5Hro-00077-00020442-00020660 for you like I have some tales to share +xt6g2YD5Hro-00078-00020661-00021071 about how to do that hi guys I'm cymbal +xt6g2YD5Hro-00079-00021072-00021350 age' I'm a physical therapist by trade +xt6g2YD5Hro-00080-00021351-00021533 and I'm a professor for physical therapy +xt6g2YD5Hro-00081-00021534-00021758 in neuroscience over here I am here in +xt6g2YD5Hro-00082-00021759-00021938 the capacity of a mad scientist +xt6g2YD5Hro-00083-00021939-00022453 I have lab tests people with Parkinson's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00084-00022454-00022586 disease and movement disorders in +xt6g2YD5Hro-00085-00022587-00022772 virtual environments there's a safer +xt6g2YD5Hro-00086-00022773-00022946 place than testing them in the real +xt6g2YD5Hro-00087-00022947-00023194 world and I'm also here in the capacity +xt6g2YD5Hro-00088-00023195-00023428 of the ideas faculty fellow for +xt6g2YD5Hro-00089-00023429-00023612 immersive learning so any questions you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00090-00023613-00023875 have regarding how to set up because I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00091-00023876-00024025 went through that four five years ago +xt6g2YD5Hro-00092-00024026-00024344 setting it up and we went from fishing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00093-00024345-00025034 lines to dog leashes and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00094-00025035-00025320 hi I'm Jennifer red I'm the director of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00095-00025321-00025575 eCampus at San Jose State University and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00096-00025576-00025794 our department we work with faculty to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00097-00025795-00026072 take their ideas and help them come true +xt6g2YD5Hro-00098-00026073-00026355 so we help faculty to implement +xt6g2YD5Hro-00099-00026356-00026685 different VR activities and we also work +xt6g2YD5Hro-00100-00026686-00026892 with students to help them design those +xt6g2YD5Hro-00101-00026893-00027093 activities and that's been what we've +xt6g2YD5Hro-00102-00027094-00027233 been working on this semester to help +xt6g2YD5Hro-00103-00027235-00027464 students build their skills in very +xt6g2YD5Hro-00104-00027466-00027642 various software that he was mentioning +xt6g2YD5Hro-00105-00027643-00028260 in the earlier talk I very Evans I'm +xt6g2YD5Hro-00106-00028261-00028433 actually a computer science student here +xt6g2YD5Hro-00107-00028435-00028830 at San Diego State I also run the game +xt6g2YD5Hro-00108-00028831-00029108 development community here so we're kind +xt6g2YD5Hro-00109-00029110-00029613 of we saw this huge demand for some type +xt6g2YD5Hro-00110-00029614-00029856 of game development community so we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00111-00029857-00030027 brought people together and now we're +xt6g2YD5Hro-00112-00030027-00030243 educating the community and hopefully +xt6g2YD5Hro-00113-00030244-00030633 we'll be able to by the spring or the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00114-00030633-00030804 following fall we'll have a community of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00115-00030805-00030951 developers that can start developing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00116-00030952-00031194 these educational experiences for +xt6g2YD5Hro-00117-00031195-00031626 faculty hello i'm mahalia Popescu I'm a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00118-00031627-00031824 professor of communication studies at +xt6g2YD5Hro-00119-00031825-00032022 California State San Bernardino +xt6g2YD5Hro-00120-00032023-00032241 I'm also the faculty associate with +xt6g2YD5Hro-00121-00032242-00032430 academic technologies and innovation +xt6g2YD5Hro-00122-00032431-00032568 which is the division of information +xt6g2YD5Hro-00123-00032569-00032886 technology services at Cal State San +xt6g2YD5Hro-00124-00032887-00033120 Bernardino so as a professor I teach +xt6g2YD5Hro-00125-00033121-00033300 about VR and other immersive +xt6g2YD5Hro-00126-00033301-00033603 technologies but as a member of the ATI +xt6g2YD5Hro-00127-00033604-00034014 Division I work with ATI staff and other +xt6g2YD5Hro-00128-00034015-00034218 professors to build an archeological +xt6g2YD5Hro-00129-00034219-00034575 game in VR and at the same time as we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00130-00034576-00034782 are learning various skills we are also +xt6g2YD5Hro-00131-00034783-00034986 trying to design courses that are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00132-00034987-00035162 teaching those skills to students +xt6g2YD5Hro-00133-00035163-00035277 excellent +xt6g2YD5Hro-00134-00035278-00035505 so we'll start out with some specific +xt6g2YD5Hro-00135-00035506-00035751 questions for individual panelists and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00136-00035752-00035907 then we'll go to group questions and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00137-00035908-00036108 finally questions from the audience so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00138-00036109-00036336 I'd like to start with Bernie the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00139-00036337-00036672 question of equity and accessibility to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00140-00036673-00036849 this technology has come up a lot and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00141-00036850-00037164 I've heard you talk about VR on a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00142-00037165-00037320 shoestring could you talk about that a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00143-00037321-00037650 bit sure I and some might dispute +xt6g2YD5Hro-00144-00037651-00037812 whether it's VR or not but let's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00145-00037813-00038043 it's immersion on a shoestring I've been 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+xt6g2YD5Hro-00159-00041026-00041232 software for you in unity to make stuff +xt6g2YD5Hro-00160-00041233-00041475 happen so where do you start +xt6g2YD5Hro-00161-00041476-00041787 I found it useful to start with what was +xt6g2YD5Hro-00162-00041788-00042053 on the left end of that graph about +xt6g2YD5Hro-00163-00042054-00042255 accessibility and immersion that the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00164-00042256-00042420 very left end of that is Google +xt6g2YD5Hro-00165-00042421-00042600 cardboard and so Google cardboard was +xt6g2YD5Hro-00166-00042601-00042984 out even two years ago and you may not +xt6g2YD5Hro-00167-00042985-00043164 be aware that you could go and make +xt6g2YD5Hro-00168-00043165-00043362 something immersive today with what's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00169-00043363-00043668 already in your pocket we've we found it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00170-00043669-00043839 to be quite useful to just take out take +xt6g2YD5Hro-00171-00043840-00044067 out everyone's phones Android or iOS and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00172-00044068-00044322 open up the Google Streetview app and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00173-00044323-00044547 with that you may have been using it to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00174-00044548-00044688 look at other people's streets but +xt6g2YD5Hro-00175-00044689-00044838 actually you can make your own Street +xt6g2YD5Hro-00176-00044839-00045153 Street views with it open it up click on +xt6g2YD5Hro-00177-00045154-00045507 the camera icon and and take 46 pictures +xt6g2YD5Hro-00178-00045508-00045747 in a systematic way and end up with a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00179-00045748-00046059 photosphere in about two minutes there's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00180-00046060-00046293 an act to it but I was able to teach my +xt6g2YD5Hro-00181-00046294-00046521 students do very very good job with that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00182-00046522-00046866 fairly quickly and so so very quickly +xt6g2YD5Hro-00183-00046867-00047091 you can have you can create yourself or +xt6g2YD5Hro-00184-00047092-00047346 have your students created and that I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00185-00047347-00047472 think is a great way to teach something +xt6g2YD5Hro-00186-00047473-00047670 else I'm teaching about VR but if I were +xt6g2YD5Hro-00187-00047671-00047988 teaching history or culture or geology I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00188-00047989-00048198 would take my students out into the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00189-00048199-00048540 field and capture these things in a way +xt6g2YD5Hro-00190-00048541-00048823 that gets the details and can later +xt6g2YD5Hro-00191-00048824-00049051 used to immerse people in it last year +xt6g2YD5Hro-00192-00049052-00049312 my class went to Chicano Park here in +xt6g2YD5Hro-00193-00049313-00049570 San Diego which started out as a protest +xt6g2YD5Hro-00194-00049571-00049755 people in the neighborhood wanting their +xt6g2YD5Hro-00195-00049756-00050011 own park and turned into you know it's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00196-00050012-00050326 not his it's on the register of historic +xt6g2YD5Hro-00197-00050327-00050692 sites its murals on the bottom of the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00198-00050693-00050962 interstate 5 going through their +xt6g2YD5Hro-00199-00050963-00051142 neighborhood and it's a beautiful thing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00200-00051143-00051291 and it doesn't really get captured very +xt6g2YD5Hro-00201-00051292-00051690 well by still still flat photos we took +xt6g2YD5Hro-00202-00051691-00052041 50 photos fears of that area and now we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00203-00052042-00052261 can we put together a tour that makes it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00204-00052262-00052494 much more like actually being there and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00205-00052495-00052669 in the process learning both about VR +xt6g2YD5Hro-00206-00052670-00052822 and learning about that little bit of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00207-00052823-00052972 local history +xt6g2YD5Hro-00208-00052973-00053307 very cool Thank You Bernie so sim you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00209-00053308-00053557 run a neuroscience lab so you you know a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00210-00053558-00053688 thing or two about the brain and how it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00211-00053689-00054073 works in your opinion what disciplines +xt6g2YD5Hro-00212-00054074-00054262 are best suited for use of immersive +xt6g2YD5Hro-00213-00054263-00055062 technologies so keyboard my opinion is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00214-00055063-00055280 about emotion +xt6g2YD5Hro-00215-00055282-00055696 every field can use immersion and I'm +xt6g2YD5Hro-00216-00055697-00055956 glad when I brought it up multiple times +xt6g2YD5Hro-00217-00055957-00056179 and I've been harping on this for at +xt6g2YD5Hro-00218-00056179-00056307 least the past four years that I've been +xt6g2YD5Hro-00219-00056308-00056541 here we are only limited by our +xt6g2YD5Hro-00220-00056542-00057115 imagination so go crazy with it and what +xt6g2YD5Hro-00221-00057116-00057330 you dream or believe you can actually +xt6g2YD5Hro-00222-00057332-00057628 make it happen and so now I'll zone into +xt6g2YD5Hro-00223-00057629-00058000 V RN ER and midst realities if something +xt6g2YD5Hro-00224-00058001-00058191 is visual and I keep seeing that 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absolutely and we actually have world +xt6g2YD5Hro-00411-00106174-00106383 vish ok seing visible so if you guys +xt6g2YD5Hro-00412-00106383-00106488 haven't gotten a chance to check that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00413-00106489-00106650 out check it out in a couple hours when +xt6g2YD5Hro-00414-00106651-00106869 we do the vendor demos very cool way of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00415-00106870-00107073 doing kind of virtual videoconferencing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00416-00107074-00107532 with VR so mihaela how can we address +xt6g2YD5Hro-00417-00107533-00107820 the concerns of accessibility with +xt6g2YD5Hro-00418-00107821-00108011 immersive technology thank you for that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00419-00108013-00108126 question +xt6g2YD5Hro-00420-00108127-00108429 I would like to relate my comments to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00421-00108430-00108732 the keynote we just listened to where we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00422-00108733-00109026 heard immersive technologies described +xt6g2YD5Hro-00423-00109027-00109332 it as empathy machines right so that 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itself from the very +xt6g2YD5Hro-00490-00125758-00125994 simple thing that in order to experience +xt6g2YD5Hro-00491-00125995-00126191 full immersion you need those head gears +xt6g2YD5Hro-00492-00126192-00126425 that are tethered to a computer so there +xt6g2YD5Hro-00493-00126426-00126758 is a wire there and that wire could +xt6g2YD5Hro-00494-00126759-00127020 present a lot of hazards especially if +xt6g2YD5Hro-00495-00127021-00127206 you are in a wheelchair right so how do +xt6g2YD5Hro-00496-00127207-00127478 we make headsets that don't have wires +xt6g2YD5Hro-00497-00127479-00127698 and what kind of infrastructure doing it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00498-00127699-00127850 in order to have those kind of data +xt6g2YD5Hro-00499-00127851-00128181 exchanges by Wi-Fi like san diego has +xt6g2YD5Hro-00500-00128182-00128366 you know great infrastructure and San +xt6g2YD5Hro-00501-00128367-00128603 Bernadino is copy San Diego and is going +xt6g2YD5Hro-00502-00128604-00128823 to have a great 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+xt6g2YD5Hro-00529-00134987-00135299 founded this student organization at San +xt6g2YD5Hro-00530-00135300-00135560 Diego State so like I said earlier we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00531-00135561-00135836 saw this huge community of game +xt6g2YD5Hro-00532-00135837-00135981 developers but they didn't really have +xt6g2YD5Hro-00533-00135982-00136182 any place to talk about games or to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00534-00136183-00136632 start making games so we launched Aztec +xt6g2YD5Hro-00535-00136633-00136964 game lab we hold workshops and we're +xt6g2YD5Hro-00536-00136965-00137118 just trying to get the community up to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00537-00137119-00137411 speed on the game engine right now we're +xt6g2YD5Hro-00538-00137412-00137571 teaching unity +xt6g2YD5Hro-00539-00137572-00137828 and so immersive technology is excellent +xt6g2YD5Hro-00540-00137829-00138050 it's great for for education but it's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00541-00138051-00138227 kind of meaningless and we'll see how +xt6g2YD5Hro-00542-00138228-00138519 software that caters do exactly what +xt6g2YD5Hro-00543-00138520-00139013 you're trying to teach so so we are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00544-00139014-00139170 bringing the community up to speed with +xt6g2YD5Hro-00545-00139171-00139523 Unity game engine and like I said +xt6g2YD5Hro-00546-00139524-00139850 earlier by fall or spring we might be +xt6g2YD5Hro-00547-00139851-00140479 able to feed back into education here by +xt6g2YD5Hro-00548-00140480-00140852 partnering with professors and seeing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00549-00140853-00141132 exactly what they need and having some +xt6g2YD5Hro-00550-00141133-00141437 some of these very talented developers +xt6g2YD5Hro-00551-00141438-00141676 first of all giving them a place to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00552-00141677-00141950 experiment with the technology and make +xt6g2YD5Hro-00553-00141951-00142143 these new applications but at the same +xt6g2YD5Hro-00554-00142144-00142484 time giving professors exactly the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00555-00142485-00142656 applications they need to teach +xt6g2YD5Hro-00556-00142657-00142857 effectively with immersive technology +xt6g2YD5Hro-00557-00142858-00143145 cool and Vinay mentioned the hackathon +xt6g2YD5Hro-00558-00143146-00143339 or the the Jam and you actually have one +xt6g2YD5Hro-00559-00143340-00143573 tomorrow yes oh yeah we have a gym we've +xt6g2YD5Hro-00560-00143574-00143864 got a gym this weekend not using +xt6g2YD5Hro-00561-00143865-00144101 immersive technology but just because +xt6g2YD5Hro-00562-00144102-00144233 we're still having the community +xt6g2YD5Hro-00563-00144234-00144587 learning the tools but as as we progress +xt6g2YD5Hro-00564-00144588-00144929 and as people's skills kind of develop +xt6g2YD5Hro-00565-00144930-00145190 it would be excellent to to start doing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00566-00145191-00145376 some of those experiments with virtual +xt6g2YD5Hro-00567-00145377-00145685 reality in the club all right cool so I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00568-00145686-00145871 think a question a lot of our colleagues +xt6g2YD5Hro-00569-00145872-00146246 in the room have is I'm already sold on +xt6g2YD5Hro-00570-00146247-00146459 immersive technology but where do I get +xt6g2YD5Hro-00571-00146460-00146646 started like how do I begin implementing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00572-00146647-00146774 so I know we've kind of already touched +xt6g2YD5Hro-00573-00146775-00146924 on that but I'd like to hear from each +xt6g2YD5Hro-00574-00146925-00147098 of the panelists on you're just kind of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00575-00147099-00147341 quick advice for how to get started +xt6g2YD5Hro-00576-00147342-00147515 maybe how you got started so starting +xt6g2YD5Hro-00577-00147516-00147893 with Linnea well I think a quick way to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00578-00147894-00148296 get into this I mentioned earlier one of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00579-00148297-00148521 my mentors he has no idea about this but +xt6g2YD5Hro-00580-00148522-00148920 she's fascinated is partnering so SDSU +xt6g2YD5Hro-00581-00148921-00149159 is big about partnering across +xt6g2YD5Hro-00582-00149160-00149400 disciplines that Arts Alive +xt6g2YD5Hro-00583-00149401-00149703 and something like that being open to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00584-00149704-00149934 partnering with another instructor from +xt6g2YD5Hro-00585-00149935-00150105 either your department or a different +xt6g2YD5Hro-00586-00150106-00150417 department is a great way to get in very +xt6g2YD5Hro-00587-00150418-00150845 cool yeah so I would I push this +xt6g2YD5Hro-00588-00150846-00151158 similarly but I added him on the actual +xt6g2YD5Hro-00589-00151159-00151356 finding some money and buying some +xt6g2YD5Hro-00590-00151357-00151794 hardware now I see lots of smiles out +xt6g2YD5Hro-00591-00151795-00152229 there and several of us I think if we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00592-00152230-00152403 won that the $10,000 reward for +xt6g2YD5Hro-00593-00152404-00152649 innovation and so I have used some of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00594-00152650-00152877 that money to buy one hundred and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00595-00152878-00153051 hundred and fifty dollars reading camp I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00596-00153052-00153381 mean to have 360 cameras so that by +xt6g2YD5Hro-00597-00153382-00153534 itself since the School of Journalism +xt6g2YD5Hro-00598-00153535-00153753 already has what we call sticks tripods +xt6g2YD5Hro-00599-00153754-00154047 and audio we've got the wireless mics +xt6g2YD5Hro-00600-00154048-00154263 and so forth we were able to kind of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00601-00154264-00154710 Cluj together our own setup fairly +xt6g2YD5Hro-00602-00154711-00155040 inexpensively and then we added in the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00603-00155041-00155343 idea of working with industry partners +xt6g2YD5Hro-00604-00155344-00155622 and so we've got an industry partner via +xt6g2YD5Hro-00605-00155623-00155970 our 360 which is joining us and and the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00606-00155971-00156264 last part is I think key for all of our +xt6g2YD5Hro-00607-00156265-00156588 disciplines here we actually have also +xt6g2YD5Hro-00608-00156589-00156758 partnered with the radio television +xt6g2YD5Hro-00609-00156759-00157119 digital news Association and Washington +xt6g2YD5Hro-00610-00157120-00157236 DC and they're going to be the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00611-00157237-00157494 distributor for all of our work to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00612-00157495-00157740 journalistic organizations so we're +xt6g2YD5Hro-00613-00157741-00157920 trying to take what we are doing in the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00614-00157921-00158139 classroom in the school and in the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00615-00158140-00158436 university and then taking it out to our +xt6g2YD5Hro-00616-00158437-00158655 industry partners and so forth in that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00617-00158656-00158991 modality and and that good money begets +xt6g2YD5Hro-00618-00158992-00159507 we hope more good money so and this is a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00619-00159508-00159737 field that is changing like week by week +xt6g2YD5Hro-00620-00159738-00160056 and and it's about immersion and I think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00621-00160057-00160386 the only way after today to continue to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00622-00160387-00160566 get started is to immerse yourself in it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00623-00160567-00160962 I make a point of subscribing any time a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00624-00160963-00161214 new tool emerges I sign up for it and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00625-00161215-00161415 play with it for a while and that's kind +xt6g2YD5Hro-00626-00161416-00161486 of exhaust +xt6g2YD5Hro-00627-00161487-00161929 but also looking at reddit subreddits +xt6g2YD5Hro-00628-00161930-00162182 that have to do with this field and also +xt6g2YD5Hro-00629-00162183-00162392 you know even you can you can co-opt +xt6g2YD5Hro-00630-00162393-00162566 your leisure time your leisure reading +xt6g2YD5Hro-00631-00162567-00162770 to be nudged in this direction there's a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00632-00162771-00163031 book called ready player one that is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00633-00163032-00163295 that it's a required reading in my VR +xt6g2YD5Hro-00634-00163296-00163487 class and it's soon to be a major motion +xt6g2YD5Hro-00635-00163488-00163733 picture but it's all about a future +xt6g2YD5Hro-00636-00163734-00164048 world just dystopia in which everyone is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00637-00164049-00164309 living in the virtual you know and think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00638-00164310-00164704 of Facebook only on steroids and and you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00639-00164705-00164891 know so reading things like this +xt6g2YD5Hro-00640-00164892-00165077 following the news playing with the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00641-00165078-00165329 tools is something that if you're really +xt6g2YD5Hro-00642-00165330-00165470 gonna get involved in this at all it's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00643-00165471-00165616 really something that you have to set +xt6g2YD5Hro-00644-00165617-00165776 aside some time for and it's it's kind +xt6g2YD5Hro-00645-00165777-00166502 of fun so the VR world and the content +xt6g2YD5Hro-00646-00166503-00166877 that exists spans from $0 to how much +xt6g2YD5Hro-00647-00166878-00167285 money do you have right and so as a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00648-00167286-00167534 scientist I asked this question and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00649-00167535-00167756 thinking about this as we are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00650-00167757-00167987 progressing down this stage the first +xt6g2YD5Hro-00651-00167988-00168122 question I usually ask my science is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00652-00168123-00168521 what am I trying to do so if you ask +xt6g2YD5Hro-00653-00168522-00168818 yourself that same question I'm sold on +xt6g2YD5Hro-00654-00168819-00169070 this I do want to use this what am I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00655-00169071-00169361 trying to achieve out of it for every +xt6g2YD5Hro-00656-00169362-00169643 thing that you want to achieve there is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00657-00169644-00170012 some price point free or not free which +xt6g2YD5Hro-00658-00170013-00170216 is available out there and then what +xt6g2YD5Hro-00659-00170217-00170375 used to be sacrilege in education back +xt6g2YD5Hro-00660-00170376-00170641 in the day is now the first go to go +xt6g2YD5Hro-00661-00170642-00170807 google it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00662-00170808-00171008 if you look it up somebody somewhere has +xt6g2YD5Hro-00663-00171009-00171212 had that problem somebody somewhere has +xt6g2YD5Hro-00664-00171213-00171452 given a solution for that and there are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00665-00171453-00171704 endless free resources before you go and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00666-00171705-00171929 start making them on your own that you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00667-00171930-00172307 can have access to so I would say ask +xt6g2YD5Hro-00668-00172308-00172445 yourself what do I want to achieve out +xt6g2YD5Hro-00669-00172446-00172733 of this first and then progress from +xt6g2YD5Hro-00670-00172734-00173168 there so I would say if you're not +xt6g2YD5Hro-00671-00173169-00173465 already familiar with your academic +xt6g2YD5Hro-00672-00173466-00173696 technology group or in our case a campus +xt6g2YD5Hro-00673-00173697-00173978 on your own campus get familiar with +xt6g2YD5Hro-00674-00173979-00174215 them because they're oftentimes have +xt6g2YD5Hro-00675-00174216-00174344 instructional designers that are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00676-00174345-00174506 interested in the area as well and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00677-00174507-00174655 they've been doing that research +xt6g2YD5Hro-00678-00174656-00174877 and keeping up-to-date on those things +xt6g2YD5Hro-00679-00174878-00175042 and they're ready and willing to want to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00680-00175043-00175276 work with you and be partners with you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00681-00175277-00175450 which is what was mentioned earlier so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00682-00175451-00175705 and also all this here today this is an +xt6g2YD5Hro-00683-00175706-00175861 opportunity for us to interact with each +xt6g2YD5Hro-00684-00175862-00176014 other and learn about what's going on on +xt6g2YD5Hro-00685-00176015-00176230 other campuses and then we can try to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00686-00176231-00176455 build upon what each other's doing as +xt6g2YD5Hro-00687-00176456-00176971 well so I don't teach using immersive +xt6g2YD5Hro-00688-00176972-00177226 technology obviously but I can kind of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00689-00177227-00177808 speak to the the fact that you need or +xt6g2YD5Hro-00690-00177809-00178251 being able to access software you have +xt6g2YD5Hro-00691-00178252-00178561 talented students you have talented +xt6g2YD5Hro-00692-00178562-00178798 students who are practically natives to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00693-00178799-00178996 these game engines and software I've +xt6g2YD5Hro-00694-00178997-00179245 been using unities for almost as long as +xt6g2YD5Hro-00695-00179246-00179461 I can remember since middle school they +xt6g2YD5Hro-00696-00179462-00179689 know the technology and they can +xt6g2YD5Hro-00697-00179690-00180037 definitely help you create software so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00698-00180038-00180334 look to your students believe it or not +xt6g2YD5Hro-00699-00180335-00181174 they might know what they're doing what +xt6g2YD5Hro-00700-00181175-00181693 I can do at this point is summarize so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00701-00181694-00181852 the first thing I understand the medium +xt6g2YD5Hro-00702-00181853-00182125 affordance is right because lots of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00703-00182126-00182293 things can be done every tear ISM +xt6g2YD5Hro-00704-00182294-00182494 everybody wants to jump in on this +xt6g2YD5Hro-00705-00182495-00182689 bandwagon but it's very important to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00706-00182690-00182857 understand what is it that the medium +xt6g2YD5Hro-00707-00182858-00183040 provides that no other medium can +xt6g2YD5Hro-00708-00183041-00183304 provide so understand that first and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00709-00183305-00183487 then there are two school of thoughts +xt6g2YD5Hro-00710-00183488-00183688 here one is you know just get a lot of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00711-00183689-00183886 Technology and throw it at the students +xt6g2YD5Hro-00712-00183887-00184081 as you are emerges and another one is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00713-00184082-00184360 find some good good projects and start +xt6g2YD5Hro-00714-00184361-00184522 working on them and I think that both +xt6g2YD5Hro-00715-00184523-00184768 school of thoughts are valuable if you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00716-00184769-00185053 do try to find a meaningful project and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00717-00185054-00185272 I would I mean this is the the route +xt6g2YD5Hro-00718-00185273-00185515 that we took to think about all the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00719-00185516-00185746 pedagogical implications of the project +xt6g2YD5Hro-00720-00185747-00185974 what a medium brings to it and so on +xt6g2YD5Hro-00721-00185975-00186226 then indeed collaborations are crucial +xt6g2YD5Hro-00722-00186227-00186415 collaborations with the IT department +xt6g2YD5Hro-00723-00186416-00186583 collaboration the bother department +xt6g2YD5Hro-00724-00186584-00186796 collaboration with the students who are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00725-00186797-00186907 the ones +xt6g2YD5Hro-00726-00186908-00187219 and immediately rose and last but not +xt6g2YD5Hro-00727-00187220-00187522 least think about sustainability I think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00728-00187523-00187720 that a lot of the art projects died +xt6g2YD5Hro-00729-00187721-00188379 because nobody kept thought through +xt6g2YD5Hro-00730-00188380-00188650 so one is you know support staff +xt6g2YD5Hro-00731-00188651-00188944 dedicated support staff but also if you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00732-00188945-00189154 want to do it with the students that try +xt6g2YD5Hro-00733-00189155-00189370 to be dutiful into the curriculum and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00734-00189371-00190330 see how it can be how you can awesome +xt6g2YD5Hro-00735-00190331-00190447 thank you for that summary and I think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00736-00190448-00190603 Peter wanted a way and I just want to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00737-00190604-00190846 invite everybody here that's from the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00738-00190847-00191116 other 22 campuses if you want to join +xt6g2YD5Hro-00739-00191117-00191362 with San Jose State we'd love to do some +xt6g2YD5Hro-00740-00191363-00191599 cross pollenization at that point we've +xt6g2YD5Hro-00741-00191600-00192055 been talking about we've been talking +xt6g2YD5Hro-00742-00192056-00192315 about collaborating in in our campus but +xt6g2YD5Hro-00743-00192316-00192592 there's some really beautiful projects +xt6g2YD5Hro-00744-00192593-00192766 that probably just take a couple of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00745-00192767-00193144 extra people from outside that can add a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00746-00193145-00193402 lot of value I think and so I'm willing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00747-00193403-00193720 to partner with anybody so awesome thank +xt6g2YD5Hro-00748-00193721-00193933 you both so the next question I'd like +xt6g2YD5Hro-00749-00193934-00194158 to open to anyone who wants to answer in +xt6g2YD5Hro-00750-00194159-00194446 the group so what can we do as students +xt6g2YD5Hro-00751-00194447-00194659 and educators to mitigate the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00752-00194660-00194854 potentially isolating experience of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00753-00194855-00195166 being in VR when everyone else is in the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00754-00195167-00195436 room with you so what kind of software +xt6g2YD5Hro-00755-00195437-00195661 hardware other techniques can we use for +xt6g2YD5Hro-00756-00195662-00196159 that there has to be a time I discovered +xt6g2YD5Hro-00757-00196160-00196378 as soon as I gave everybody I gave three +xt6g2YD5Hro-00758-00196379-00196636 students I had three sets goggles the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00759-00196637-00196822 other 15 students are kind of hanging +xt6g2YD5Hro-00760-00196823-00197070 out and I didn't give them a time limit +xt6g2YD5Hro-00761-00197071-00197437 so literally I didn't and so you know we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00762-00197438-00197611 have people that of the three to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00763-00197612-00197800 understand like for 15 and 20 minutes +xt6g2YD5Hro-00764-00197801-00197974 and everybody else just twiddling their +xt6g2YD5Hro-00765-00197975-00198187 thumbs so I think just from a classroom +xt6g2YD5Hro-00766-00198188-00198385 management point of view we need to we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00767-00198386-00198526 need to make sure that you were sharing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00768-00198527-00198811 all of this stuff because none of us are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00769-00198812-00199000 gonna have full classrooms of all these +xt6g2YD5Hro-00770-00199001-00199243 lovely pieces of equipment for a while +xt6g2YD5Hro-00771-00199244-00199375 absolutely I agree and actually I don't +xt6g2YD5Hro-00772-00199376-00199546 know if anyone's tried Facebook spaces +xt6g2YD5Hro-00773-00199547-00199711 yet but one of the the best things that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00774-00199712-00199903 they implemented is a virtual watch so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00775-00199904-00200024 you can see what time it is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00776-00200025-00200189 I have no idea if I spent five minutes +xt6g2YD5Hro-00777-00200190-00200471 20 minutes 45 minutes so aside from an +xt6g2YD5Hro-00778-00200472-00200695 egg timer which we also have it ideas +xt6g2YD5Hro-00779-00200696-00201029 the virtual watch is pretty cool anyone +xt6g2YD5Hro-00780-00201030-00201155 else want to weigh in on that yeah +xt6g2YD5Hro-00781-00201156-00201206 please +xt6g2YD5Hro-00782-00201207-00201512 well so one technological solution is to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00783-00201513-00201722 have it so that others who aren't +xt6g2YD5Hro-00784-00201723-00201935 strapped into these things is able to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00785-00201936-00202162 see what the other person is watching +xt6g2YD5Hro-00786-00202163-00202556 and unless you do something beyond that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00787-00202557-00202697 it seems to me that's like watching +xt6g2YD5Hro-00788-00202698-00203975 somebody else watch porn it's I think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00789-00203976-00204224 it's really it's an instructional design +xt6g2YD5Hro-00790-00204225-00204470 problem in that instead of just +xt6g2YD5Hro-00791-00204471-00204722 depending on the while and sharing the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00792-00204723-00204971 while that one person is having it's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00793-00204971-00205114 really the next step after that it's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00794-00205115-00205342 it's what he do next it is what what now +xt6g2YD5Hro-00795-00205344-00205540 that we see the Grand Canyon in lurid +xt6g2YD5Hro-00796-00205541-00205765 detail what are we there for what do we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00797-00205766-00206089 have to do and devising tasks that can +xt6g2YD5Hro-00798-00206090-00206294 be distributed among a number of people +xt6g2YD5Hro-00799-00206294-00206501 gives everybody something to do while +xt6g2YD5Hro-00800-00206502-00206692 one person is deeply experiencing it the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00801-00206694-00206887 others can be directing in to look in a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00802-00206888-00207094 particular way or picking up something +xt6g2YD5Hro-00803-00207094-00207311 that I think is a way to scale it up so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00804-00207312-00207466 the more people can can share the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00805-00207467-00207923 experience thanks please yeah exactly +xt6g2YD5Hro-00806-00207923-00208237 that I was about to add that there's +xt6g2YD5Hro-00807-00208238-00208505 this idea in game development and a lot +xt6g2YD5Hro-00808-00208506-00208723 of recent games have been experimenting +xt6g2YD5Hro-00809-00208725-00209008 with it this idea of asymmetric gameplay +xt6g2YD5Hro-00810-00209009-00209198 and this is something that we could +xt6g2YD5Hro-00811-00209198-00209435 probably look at with immersive teaching +xt6g2YD5Hro-00812-00209436-00209725 as well so the idea is that one person +xt6g2YD5Hro-00813-00209726-00209971 has a different function than the others +xt6g2YD5Hro-00814-00209973-00210200 so you could have one student immersed +xt6g2YD5Hro-00815-00210201-00210523 in the more high-end technology and you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00816-00210525-00210755 could have a networked experience with +xt6g2YD5Hro-00817-00210756-00210956 the lower end technology that's kind of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00818-00210957-00211112 more accessible so you could have a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00819-00211113-00211267 group of students on the cardboard +xt6g2YD5Hro-00820-00211269-00211655 viewing or in the same space as the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00821-00211656-00211835 student who's actually manipulating the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00822-00211836-00212114 world with the higher end device but +xt6g2YD5Hro-00823-00212115-00212282 that's that again that's a software +xt6g2YD5Hro-00824-00212283-00212396 problem I don't know if +xt6g2YD5Hro-00825-00212398-00212676 like that exist yes very cool so I have +xt6g2YD5Hro-00826-00212677-00212862 a follow-up question how can immersive +xt6g2YD5Hro-00827-00212863-00213033 technologies be used to increase +xt6g2YD5Hro-00828-00213034-00213788 collaboration and also active learning +xt6g2YD5Hro-00829-00213789-00214080 throwing it to me okay you got them like +xt6g2YD5Hro-00830-00214081-00214469 that so how can this be and like +xt6g2YD5Hro-00831-00214471-00214746 initiative into collaboration I think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00832-00214746-00214998 using different mediums and technologies +xt6g2YD5Hro-00833-00214998-00215267 anyways the invitation to this +xt6g2YD5Hro-00834-00215267-00215556 collaborative ideas things that USC has +xt6g2YD5Hro-00835-00215557-00215694 been doing for a long time with the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00836-00215694-00215880 labyrinth project with the production of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00837-00215881-00216387 pry and 2014 you know again like +xt6g2YD5Hro-00838-00216388-00216584 bringing folks with different +xt6g2YD5Hro-00839-00216585-00216813 technological abilities from different +xt6g2YD5Hro-00840-00216814-00217032 disciplines and creating something +xt6g2YD5Hro-00841-00217033-00217310 together because it will take more than +xt6g2YD5Hro-00842-00217311-00217533 one person let's say to create a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00843-00217534-00217782 dissertation or thesis that would be in +xt6g2YD5Hro-00844-00217783-00218076 a our VR we're gonna need you know three +xt6g2YD5Hro-00845-00218077-00218319 or four voices and backgrounds to do +xt6g2YD5Hro-00846-00218319-00218723 that so just the idea of even creating +xt6g2YD5Hro-00847-00218725-00219153 that platform and that new exploration +xt6g2YD5Hro-00848-00219154-00219516 is the invitation very cool so Bernie +xt6g2YD5Hro-00849-00219517-00219702 we've been testing out different types +xt6g2YD5Hro-00850-00219703-00220019 of collaborative software Wednesday +xt6g2YD5Hro-00851-00220021-00220251 nights at 7 o'clock way too late into +xt6g2YD5Hro-00852-00220252-00220440 like 8 9 o'clock just a couple days we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00853-00220441-00220598 finished with another one do you want to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00854-00220600-00220769 mention anything about that as far as +xt6g2YD5Hro-00855-00220771-00221148 collaboration well this is one of those +xt6g2YD5Hro-00856-00221148-00221265 things where I think it's good that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00857-00221266-00221490 we're getting our feet on the ground or +xt6g2YD5Hro-00858-00221491-00221690 feet wet or whatever the term is +xt6g2YD5Hro-00859-00221691-00221862 sampling these things but the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00860-00221863-00222027 technology's not quite there yet for +xt6g2YD5Hro-00861-00222028-00222200 large numbers of people we don't teach +xt6g2YD5Hro-00862-00222201-00222417 normally classes with three or four +xt6g2YD5Hro-00863-00222417-00222690 students at once we've got a roomful of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00864-00222691-00223034 people to deal with and technology's not +xt6g2YD5Hro-00865-00223035-00223244 there yet for that many people to be +xt6g2YD5Hro-00866-00223246-00223482 really engaged simultaneously so you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00867-00223483-00223908 either make it a serial engagement where +xt6g2YD5Hro-00868-00223909-00224121 people can come and go and then somehow +xt6g2YD5Hro-00869-00224121-00224367 you pull all together at the end but I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00870-00224367-00224534 really think that is the missing thing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00871-00224535-00224787 right right now getting into these +xt6g2YD5Hro-00872-00224788-00224937 worlds +xt6g2YD5Hro-00873-00224938-00225119 you know let's face it as soon as you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00874-00225121-00225242 put that thing on your face you look +xt6g2YD5Hro-00875-00225244-00225462 like a dork and so yeah in some ways you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00876-00225463-00225596 don't want to be seen by anybody else +xt6g2YD5Hro-00877-00225598-00225852 well that's not going on but but it's a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00878-00225853-00226140 very lonely experience what you are into +xt6g2YD5Hro-00879-00226141-00226401 the virtual world your your divorce from +xt6g2YD5Hro-00880-00226402-00226635 the people physically around you so I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00881-00226636-00226944 think the the breakthrough yet to come +xt6g2YD5Hro-00882-00226944-00227301 on a scalable way which will come sooner +xt6g2YD5Hro-00883-00227302-00227487 or later is when we can all see each +xt6g2YD5Hro-00884-00227488-00227669 other in a different space and interact +xt6g2YD5Hro-00885-00227671-00228210 in that world rather than you know yeah +xt6g2YD5Hro-00886-00228211-00228371 so let me let me just throw a little +xt6g2YD5Hro-00887-00228373-00228723 antidote I'm one of the national Emmy +xt6g2YD5Hro-00888-00228723-00229158 Award judges for alternative shows and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00889-00229159-00229367 so this year last year the very first +xt6g2YD5Hro-00890-00229369-00229706 two years that the Emmy competition has +xt6g2YD5Hro-00891-00229707-00230265 entertained VR and 360 pieces so even +xt6g2YD5Hro-00892-00230266-00230592 the old traditional industry is now +xt6g2YD5Hro-00893-00230592-00230829 coming around but what's interesting was +xt6g2YD5Hro-00894-00230830-00231044 is that the New York Times piece that I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00895-00231046-00231462 saw on their symphony and I observed had +xt6g2YD5Hro-00896-00231463-00231639 I looked at the credits specifically and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00897-00231640-00231794 they had something in the neighborhood +xt6g2YD5Hro-00898-00231796-00232179 of 40 people that were working on that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00899-00232180-00232544 one story on the symphony now I say that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00900-00232546-00232769 because they can throw a lot of money at +xt6g2YD5Hro-00901-00232771-00232926 these things and experiment at much +xt6g2YD5Hro-00902-00232927-00233136 higher levels possibly than a lot of us +xt6g2YD5Hro-00903-00233137-00233460 here but taking it back to my University +xt6g2YD5Hro-00904-00233461-00233664 one of my colleagues has already talked +xt6g2YD5Hro-00905-00233665-00233904 to me about doing a homeless story +xt6g2YD5Hro-00906-00233905-00234282 around San Jose well I started thinking +xt6g2YD5Hro-00907-00234283-00234552 about that my students by themselves +xt6g2YD5Hro-00908-00234553-00234786 couldn't do all of that work and so we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00909-00234787-00235086 need to really begin to reach out to the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00910-00235087-00235389 the social the sociology department we +xt6g2YD5Hro-00911-00235390-00235517 need to look at the math department +xt6g2YD5Hro-00912-00235519-00235761 interestingly enough I'm very interested +xt6g2YD5Hro-00913-00235762-00236061 in analytics we probably should all be +xt6g2YD5Hro-00914-00236062-00236310 talking about measurement and kind of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00915-00236311-00236589 ROI at least in the academic sense and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00916-00236590-00236802 so I've actually got two computer +xt6g2YD5Hro-00917-00236803-00236967 science and one mathema one +xt6g2YD5Hro-00918-00236967-00237119 mathematician that are going to be +xt6g2YD5Hro-00919-00237121-00237315 working on this project to simply look +xt6g2YD5Hro-00920-00237316-00237711 at heat maps and this idea of analytics +xt6g2YD5Hro-00921-00237712-00238029 on where eyeballs are looking at the +xt6g2YD5Hro-00922-00238030-00238298 particular shot and so these really +xt6g2YD5Hro-00923-00238300-00238530 begin to shape the story my students +xt6g2YD5Hro-00924-00238531-00238686 couldn't do it but the team that I have +xt6g2YD5Hro-00925-00238687-00238788 couldn't do it by themselves +xt6g2YD5Hro-00926-00238789-00239013 technologically they could but it'd +xt6g2YD5Hro-00927-00239014-00239517 probably be c-minus d-plus right and I +xt6g2YD5Hro-00928-00239517-00240917 wanted much better than that you know +xt6g2YD5Hro-00929-00240917-00241292 and there it was the fear of isolation +xt6g2YD5Hro-00930-00241294-00241575 that was induced by mass technology such +xt6g2YD5Hro-00931-00241576-00241854 as the television right so if you look +xt6g2YD5Hro-00932-00241855-00242048 at the history of that mass mass +xt6g2YD5Hro-00933-00242050-00242334 communication and of media technologies +xt6g2YD5Hro-00934-00242335-00242541 they have always introduced this fear of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00935-00242542-00242685 isolation that there were always +xt6g2YD5Hro-00936-00242686-00242940 discourses of oh my goodness now people +xt6g2YD5Hro-00937-00242941-00243150 are not going to hang out with each +xt6g2YD5Hro-00938-00243151-00243426 other and the same the same kind of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00939-00243427-00243633 fears accompany the emergence of social +xt6g2YD5Hro-00940-00243634-00243869 media right so I would say that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00941-00243871-00244077 isolation really we need to think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00942-00244078-00244257 broadly about what it means to be +xt6g2YD5Hro-00943-00244258-00244548 isolated and while it's true that we are +xt6g2YD5Hro-00944-00244548-00244748 and other immersive technologies are not +xt6g2YD5Hro-00945-00244750-00245001 a social medium yet if you look at +xt6g2YD5Hro-00946-00245002-00245226 what's happening in Second Life I would +xt6g2YD5Hro-00947-00245227-00245403 say that those experiences are far from +xt6g2YD5Hro-00948-00245404-00245610 isolating in fact a lot of research done +xt6g2YD5Hro-00949-00245611-00245853 on communities with disabilities +xt6g2YD5Hro-00950-00245854-00246105 highlighted how important that space +xt6g2YD5Hro-00951-00246106-00246375 that virtual space was for bringing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00952-00246376-00246537 people together who otherwise would +xt6g2YD5Hro-00953-00246538-00246821 never have been able to travel right so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00954-00246823-00247014 I would I would shine a beacon of hope +xt6g2YD5Hro-00955-00247015-00247298 here about the medium absolutely I think +xt6g2YD5Hro-00956-00247300-00247476 it's important to contextualize it and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00957-00247477-00247566 look back at history +xt6g2YD5Hro-00958-00247567-00247761 speaking of Reddit Bernie I saw +xt6g2YD5Hro-00959-00247762-00247875 something on reddit recently with a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00960-00247876-00248076 bunch of people standing around reading +xt6g2YD5Hro-00961-00248077-00248256 their newspapers and and saying what +xt6g2YD5Hro-00962-00248257-00248417 your plate you blame Millennials for not +xt6g2YD5Hro-00963-00248419-00248546 talking to each other at the bus stop +xt6g2YD5Hro-00964-00248548-00248688 but it did the same thing with +xt6g2YD5Hro-00965-00248689-00248976 newspapers so did you want to know I'm +xt6g2YD5Hro-00966-00248977-00249207 just gonna say here's the latest you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00967-00249208-00249675 know isolationist technology I mean you +xt6g2YD5Hro-00968-00249676-00249855 can't you've got to look around just at +xt6g2YD5Hro-00969-00249856-00250073 our campuses here as a state students +xt6g2YD5Hro-00970-00250075-00250380 run into me all the time sorry excuse me +xt6g2YD5Hro-00971-00250381-00250526 oh yeah sorry +xt6g2YD5Hro-00972-00250527-00250800 FaceTime now yeah FaceTime whatever so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00973-00250801-00251001 you know this is we should learn from +xt6g2YD5Hro-00974-00251002-00251259 from our smartphone experiences and take +xt6g2YD5Hro-00975-00251260-00251511 that into the VR experiences I think and +xt6g2YD5Hro-00976-00251512-00251652 really quickly it's worth noting that +xt6g2YD5Hro-00977-00251653-00251841 there's it's not like there's no effort +xt6g2YD5Hro-00978-00251842-00252150 in trying to fix this isolation problem +xt6g2YD5Hro-00979-00252151-00252261 there's actually a pretty popular +xt6g2YD5Hro-00980-00252262-00252398 application called rec-room +xt6g2YD5Hro-00981-00252400-00253028 and it's a it is a video game it's not a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00982-00253029-00253548 you know an education software but it it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00983-00253548-00253779 proves that like I've seen videos of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00984-00253780-00253962 people playing this game in a completely +xt6g2YD5Hro-00985-00253963-00254214 empty room but they're having as much +xt6g2YD5Hro-00986-00254215-00254396 fun as if as if they're it with like a +xt6g2YD5Hro-00987-00254398-00254723 huge crowd so maybe we should look to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00988-00254725-00254939 these applications and see if we can +xt6g2YD5Hro-00989-00254940-00255473 leverage that networked experience so +xt6g2YD5Hro-00990-00255475-00255735 thank you all so an important question +xt6g2YD5Hro-00991-00255736-00255909 that's come up a couple times is what +xt6g2YD5Hro-00992-00255910-00256158 can campuses do to design spaces to +xt6g2YD5Hro-00993-00256159-00256311 facilitate learning with immersive +xt6g2YD5Hro-00994-00256312-00256512 technologies so we've taken a stab at it +xt6g2YD5Hro-00995-00256513-00256755 here but it really is just a layer of +xt6g2YD5Hro-00996-00256756-00256944 technology on top of an existing +xt6g2YD5Hro-00997-00256944-00257133 learning research studios so we don't +xt6g2YD5Hro-00998-00257134-00257277 yet have the answer to that but I'm +xt6g2YD5Hro-00999-00257278-00258319 curious any of your perspectives on that +xt6g2YD5Hro-01000-00258321-00258714 patient's of different versions of VR +xt6g2YD5Hro-01001-00258715-00259008 any RNA mr that we have right now then +xt6g2YD5Hro-01002-00259009-00259410 you can never keep up with it so I think +xt6g2YD5Hro-01003-00259411-00259587 we started at a good scale over here at +xt6g2YD5Hro-01004-00259588-00259721 San Diego State IDs +xt6g2YD5Hro-01005-00259723-00259884 where we ask the question what is the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01006-00259885-00260223 least that I need to provide for almost +xt6g2YD5Hro-01007-00260223-00260498 everybody on campus we started with +xt6g2YD5Hro-01008-00260500-00260817 tools that are that can be used for in +xt6g2YD5Hro-01009-00260817-00260991 each class you've got 360 cameras you've +xt6g2YD5Hro-01010-00260992-00261231 got different types of 360 cameras +xt6g2YD5Hro-01011-00261232-00261398 you've got 360 cameras that can stream +xt6g2YD5Hro-01012-00261400-00261588 you've got 360 cameras that would go and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01013-00261589-00261848 take a 4k video for you then you've got +xt6g2YD5Hro-01014-00261850-00262008 the Google cardboard if you want it to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01015-00262009-00262263 use that content you don't necessarily +xt6g2YD5Hro-01016-00262264-00262443 need the Google cardboard you can go to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01017-00262444-00262725 youtube and watch the same video in +xt6g2YD5Hro-01018-00262726-00263124 youtube and then there is the higher +xt6g2YD5Hro-01019-00263125-00263322 level stuff where you have your oculus +xt6g2YD5Hro-01020-00263323-00263631 rifts and your HTC wives that have been +xt6g2YD5Hro-01021-00263632-00263808 used by the astronomy department so +xt6g2YD5Hro-01022-00263809-00264381 depends on your need so I guess the just +xt6g2YD5Hro-01023-00264382-00264604 the way we started is the way +xt6g2YD5Hro-01024-00264605-00264754 anybody else should start from ours The +xt6g2YD5Hro-01025-00264755-00264892 Listening campaign or the listening to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01026-00264893-00265051 that you invited people who were +xt6g2YD5Hro-01027-00265052-00265279 interested who were already using it and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01028-00265280-00265668 then got feedback before jumping into it +xt6g2YD5Hro-01029-00265669-00266092 thanks a lot it's a for creating a space +xt6g2YD5Hro-01030-00266093-00266338 well we don't have a lot of space on our +xt6g2YD5Hro-01031-00266339-00266698 campus so we're searching for his face +xt6g2YD5Hro-01032-00266699-00266914 but what what the Peter and I have +xt6g2YD5Hro-01033-00266915-00267145 talked about is really leveraging the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01034-00267146-00267280 different equipment that we might have +xt6g2YD5Hro-01035-00267281-00267613 in pockets across campus so we might not +xt6g2YD5Hro-01036-00267614-00267880 all have you know tend to bring to a +xt6g2YD5Hro-01037-00267881-00268114 class but all of us together might have +xt6g2YD5Hro-01038-00268115-00268375 that many so figuring out a way to be +xt6g2YD5Hro-01039-00268376-00268570 organized with the equipment that the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01040-00268571-00268834 campus has and be able to monitor it and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01041-00268835-00269038 check it out and provide that so that +xt6g2YD5Hro-01042-00269039-00269263 everybody has an opportunity and then +xt6g2YD5Hro-01043-00269264-00269470 there's just it's better for the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01044-00269471-00269641 students because then they'll have more +xt6g2YD5Hro-01045-00269642-00270022 opportunities to use it as well so for +xt6g2YD5Hro-01046-00270023-00270262 everyone who ever wants to weigh in the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01047-00270263-00270511 students see value in learning through +xt6g2YD5Hro-01048-00270512-00271399 immersive technology yes when I started +xt6g2YD5Hro-01049-00271400-00271648 working with VR in my humanities classes +xt6g2YD5Hro-01050-00271649-00272029 last year before we had the room before +xt6g2YD5Hro-01051-00272030-00272389 we had 1120 before we had access to the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01052-00272390-00272680 hololens I had them +xt6g2YD5Hro-01053-00272681-00272881 immerse themselves for several class +xt6g2YD5Hro-01054-00272882-00273208 sessions and then do vlog reflections on +xt6g2YD5Hro-01055-00273209-00273613 that experience and those interviews or +xt6g2YD5Hro-01056-00273614-00273790 those reflections were very important at +xt6g2YD5Hro-01057-00273791-00274021 the time and that made it imperative +xt6g2YD5Hro-01058-00274022-00274237 that that was going to continue in a +xt6g2YD5Hro-01059-00274238-00274522 more formalized way for the semester and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01060-00274523-00274807 next spring and so on with my classes +xt6g2YD5Hro-01061-00274808-00275035 but also in talking to the students a +xt6g2YD5Hro-01062-00275036-00275353 year out after encountering VR and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01063-00275354-00275776 working with it many have told me that +xt6g2YD5Hro-01064-00275777-00275965 from many different disciplines one from +xt6g2YD5Hro-01065-00275966-00276241 computer sciences just coming to mind +xt6g2YD5Hro-01066-00276242-00276757 Audrey I have that experience gave him a +xt6g2YD5Hro-01067-00276758-00277003 different perspective in not only his +xt6g2YD5Hro-01068-00277004-00277337 core classes for his major but also +xt6g2YD5Hro-01069-00277338-00277579 and design and some other things like so +xt6g2YD5Hro-01070-00277580-00277771 it was it was inspiring it was +xt6g2YD5Hro-01071-00277772-00277994 technologically relevant to what he had +xt6g2YD5Hro-01072-00277995-00278347 been studying and also socially rebel +xt6g2YD5Hro-01073-00278348-00278629 relevant so that's the feedback that +xt6g2YD5Hro-01074-00278630-00278860 I've been getting and still collecting +xt6g2YD5Hro-01075-00278861-00279020 from students and I believe that was one +xt6g2YD5Hro-01076-00279021-00279212 of your students who said we show up +xt6g2YD5Hro-01077-00279213-00279532 early and stay late that's David on the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01078-00279533-00279724 video yeah and he had encountered VR +xt6g2YD5Hro-01079-00279725-00279904 before the class and he's an early +xt6g2YD5Hro-01080-00279905-00280271 adopter and they do yeah they stay +xt6g2YD5Hro-01081-00280272-00280588 really late like guys I gotta go +xt6g2YD5Hro-01082-00280589-00281149 I'm hoping good problems so here's +xt6g2YD5Hro-01083-00281150-00281299 something that I ran into when I first +xt6g2YD5Hro-01084-00281300-00281521 kind of began to introduce this students +xt6g2YD5Hro-01085-00281522-00282004 kind of looked at me going cool and just +xt6g2YD5Hro-01086-00282005-00282194 had a blank look they didn't really know +xt6g2YD5Hro-01087-00282195-00282409 what it was so one of the first things +xt6g2YD5Hro-01088-00282410-00282676 that I did was I said okay everybody +xt6g2YD5Hro-01089-00282677-00282880 here needs to go on because most of our +xt6g2YD5Hro-01090-00282881-00283210 students have an iPhone Google Play but +xt6g2YD5Hro-01091-00283211-00283501 the app store and I see I need you to go +xt6g2YD5Hro-01092-00283502-00283981 download these three free VR apps and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01093-00283982-00284203 it's they did and I said I'm gonna give +xt6g2YD5Hro-01094-00284204-00284398 you two points each you prove it to me +xt6g2YD5Hro-01095-00284399-00284551 I'll give you to point out they they get +xt6g2YD5Hro-01096-00284552-00284851 motivated by that right and so they came +xt6g2YD5Hro-01097-00284852-00285079 back and almost universally they're +xt6g2YD5Hro-01098-00285080-00285376 going this is cool when did this come +xt6g2YD5Hro-01099-00285377-00285495 about +xt6g2YD5Hro-01100-00285496-00285922 no I try to connect that with a lot of I +xt6g2YD5Hro-01101-00285923-00286174 guess I've done this before and I said +xt6g2YD5Hro-01102-00286175-00286420 what did you do and inevitably they say +xt6g2YD5Hro-01103-00286421-00286807 roller coaster is this gonna be another +xt6g2YD5Hro-01104-00286808-00287230 roller coaster though no and so that +xt6g2YD5Hro-01105-00287231-00287428 becomes that became the dialogue right +xt6g2YD5Hro-01106-00287429-00287734 in the beginning is to get them to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01107-00287735-00287920 recognize there's a lot of stuff out +xt6g2YD5Hro-01108-00287921-00288229 there a lot of it's free to your point +xt6g2YD5Hro-01109-00288230-00288508 that they don't know that they don't +xt6g2YD5Hro-01110-00288509-00288853 know and that became just real important +xt6g2YD5Hro-01111-00288854-00289129 for me to get across now I do have some +xt6g2YD5Hro-01112-00289130-00289919 of those +xt6g2YD5Hro-01113-00289920-00290182 but there is the flipside of this there +xt6g2YD5Hro-01114-00290183-00290573 are students and there are citizens to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01115-00290574-00290846 do with this and so I've had a few +xt6g2YD5Hro-01116-00290847-00291068 students in non vr class when we +xt6g2YD5Hro-01117-00291069-00291293 introduced it they're kind of going this +xt6g2YD5Hro-01118-00291294-00291590 it doesn't do anything for me and I try +xt6g2YD5Hro-01119-00291591-00291716 to get them involved and they do an +xt6g2YD5Hro-01120-00291717-00291890 assignment and so forth but they're just +xt6g2YD5Hro-01121-00291891-00292091 not interested and I think that we would +xt6g2YD5Hro-01122-00292092-00292364 be doing a disservice if we forced it on +xt6g2YD5Hro-01123-00292365-00292605 folks because I see peer-to-peer +xt6g2YD5Hro-01124-00292606-00293034 enthusiasm much more appropriate than +xt6g2YD5Hro-01125-00293035-00293594 Professor you know pressure very good +xt6g2YD5Hro-01126-00293595-00294100 point I say yes but for whatever the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01127-00294101-00294392 original question was do students find +xt6g2YD5Hro-01128-00294393-00294660 this engaging and compelling yes but +xt6g2YD5Hro-01129-00294661-00294965 will they still two years now this is a +xt6g2YD5Hro-01130-00294966-00295196 commodity when they've seen this more +xt6g2YD5Hro-01131-00295197-00295705 than one time I think we will be at risk +xt6g2YD5Hro-01132-00295706-00295978 of becoming complacent and saying yeah +xt6g2YD5Hro-01133-00295979-00296200 this is so cool though the kids are +xt6g2YD5Hro-01134-00296201-00296267 gonna love it +xt6g2YD5Hro-01135-00296268-00296506 they're not gonna love it forever unless +xt6g2YD5Hro-01136-00296507-00296738 the experiences we design are really +xt6g2YD5Hro-01137-00296739-00296977 soundly designed that there is a reason +xt6g2YD5Hro-01138-00296978-00297109 to be there and that you're really +xt6g2YD5Hro-01139-00297110-00297389 taking advantage of it it's it's gonna +xt6g2YD5Hro-01140-00297390-00297563 be very easy for us to be seduced and it +xt6g2YD5Hro-01141-00297564-00297856 just just the wild part and not taking +xt6g2YD5Hro-01142-00297857-00298027 care of the next part excellent so I +xt6g2YD5Hro-01143-00298028-00298139 think we could talk about any of these +xt6g2YD5Hro-01144-00298140-00298373 one topics for probably an hour in each +xt6g2YD5Hro-01145-00298374-00298496 one of themselves but I'd like to open +xt6g2YD5Hro-01146-00298497-00298637 it up to the audience we have about +xt6g2YD5Hro-01147-00298638-00298868 seven minutes left so maybe two to three +xt6g2YD5Hro-01148-00298869-00299131 questions maybe more if we have time we +xt6g2YD5Hro-01149-00299132-00299359 have the mic catch box in the back so if +xt6g2YD5Hro-01150-00299360-00299575 you raise your hand Antonio will try to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01151-00299576-00300754 hit you with it over here nice catch +xt6g2YD5Hro-01152-00300755-00301072 the tangler for cellphones fashion +xt6g2YD5Hro-01153-00301073-00301594 antenna for pcs because and what I see +xt6g2YD5Hro-01154-00301595-00301822 now right this very minute and I can see +xt6g2YD5Hro-01155-00301823-00302035 this really cool technology just like +xt6g2YD5Hro-01156-00302036-00302322 cell phones just like pcs before them +xt6g2YD5Hro-01157-00302323-00302695 and people are going yeah what's it +xt6g2YD5Hro-01158-00302696-00302910 gonna be like I can even remember pcs +xt6g2YD5Hro-01159-00302911-00303073 before there was Windows hmm +xt6g2YD5Hro-01160-00303074-00303349 that's how far I like and we're right on +xt6g2YD5Hro-01161-00303350-00303625 the cusp of the curve and it's going to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01162-00303626-00303943 go really quick and what will drive it +xt6g2YD5Hro-01163-00303944-00304258 is the people in this room as you adapt +xt6g2YD5Hro-01164-00304259-00304474 the experience for the people so they +xt6g2YD5Hro-01165-00304475-00304810 start seeing the value because it +xt6g2YD5Hro-01166-00304811-00304939 teaches them some because the guess in +xt6g2YD5Hro-01167-00304940-00305188 the end of it nobody not many people are +xt6g2YD5Hro-01168-00305189-00305332 came to me people don't have cell phones +xt6g2YD5Hro-01169-00305333-00305506 anymore anybody here think they couldn't +xt6g2YD5Hro-01170-00305507-00305797 function without a cell phone video is +xt6g2YD5Hro-01171-00305798-00305992 gonna go the same way but what will make +xt6g2YD5Hro-01172-00305993-00306139 it that that is that it becomes +xt6g2YD5Hro-01173-00306140-00306292 ubiquitous so it's one of those chicken +xt6g2YD5Hro-01174-00306293-00306505 egg situations well already we're +xt6g2YD5Hro-01175-00306506-00306658 actually well behind the curve it is my +xt6g2YD5Hro-01176-00306659-00306772 guess that this might be somewhat I've +xt6g2YD5Hro-01177-00306773-00307033 seen the curves pulling away from us +xt6g2YD5Hro-01178-00307034-00307222 faster and faster and faster so uh I +xt6g2YD5Hro-01179-00307223-00307378 think we're barking up the right tree I +xt6g2YD5Hro-01180-00307379-00307549 would encourage people to try and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01181-00307550-00307690 incorporate get them teaching and the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01182-00307691-00307939 vendors around us and step up and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01183-00307940-00308077 provide something we can use to teach +xt6g2YD5Hro-01184-00308078-00308334 with it's what I would say that's I mean +xt6g2YD5Hro-01185-00308335-00308512 I would you sum what people think about +xt6g2YD5Hro-01186-00308513-00308767 that and I see people other Silverbacks +xt6g2YD5Hro-01187-00308768-00309048 on there Steve there as well so you +xt6g2YD5Hro-01188-00309049-00309582 thoughts on that panel +xt6g2YD5Hro-01189-00309583-00310448 freshen up hear from James its catch +xt6g2YD5Hro-01190-00310449-00310799 Thank You my question for the panelists +xt6g2YD5Hro-01191-00310800-00311054 is regarding and this gets to the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01192-00311055-00311249 funding issue and the measurement issue +xt6g2YD5Hro-01193-00311250-00311588 I think that if there were research +xt6g2YD5Hro-01194-00311589-00311789 studies that were being done to +xt6g2YD5Hro-01195-00311790-00312089 demonstrate the impact on student +xt6g2YD5Hro-01196-00312090-00312256 success maybe less students are having +xt6g2YD5Hro-01197-00312257-00312433 to repeat a challenging course for +xt6g2YD5Hro-01198-00312434-00312658 instance that funding would be put +xt6g2YD5Hro-01199-00312659-00312917 within reach I'm hoping maybe you might +xt6g2YD5Hro-01200-00312918-00313070 be able to talk about research +xt6g2YD5Hro-01201-00313071-00313217 possibilities any research that you're +xt6g2YD5Hro-01202-00313218-00313466 doing right now and one kind of +xt6g2YD5Hro-01203-00313467-00313643 cautionary tell tale from San Diego +xt6g2YD5Hro-01204-00313644-00313976 State do not provide the product +xt6g2YD5Hro-01205-00313977-00314288 specification sheets to the IRB folks +xt6g2YD5Hro-01206-00314289-00314506 when you're talking about this research +xt6g2YD5Hro-01207-00314507-00314798 that's probably a side story that we +xt6g2YD5Hro-01208-00314799-00315007 could tell you later because there's +xt6g2YD5Hro-01209-00315008-00315230 some fine print for instance with the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01210-00315231-00315488 whole lens that says you know you could +xt6g2YD5Hro-01211-00315489-00315743 die using this thing you know walk off +xt6g2YD5Hro-01212-00315744-00315818 the side of the cliff +xt6g2YD5Hro-01213-00315819-00316073 don't let the IRB of people see that but +xt6g2YD5Hro-01214-00316074-00316301 seriously in our learning research +xt6g2YD5Hro-01215-00316302-00316577 studios where we have a blanket IRB +xt6g2YD5Hro-01216-00316578-00316742 exemption to try and make it easier for +xt6g2YD5Hro-01217-00316743-00316952 faculty to do this kind of work but I +xt6g2YD5Hro-01218-00316953-00317078 think that's really important I would be +xt6g2YD5Hro-01219-00317079-00317310 curious to hear your thoughts on that +xt6g2YD5Hro-01220-00317311-00317699 that so it's not just you can die by +xt6g2YD5Hro-01221-00317700-00317888 using hololens you can also lose all +xt6g2YD5Hro-01222-00317889-00318130 your data your all your sensory data by +xt6g2YD5Hro-01223-00318131-00318334 using this because it's not particularly +xt6g2YD5Hro-01224-00318335-00318503 secure right so that there are also +xt6g2YD5Hro-01225-00318504-00318773 privacy concerns there so what we are +xt6g2YD5Hro-01226-00318774-00318989 doing at Cal State San Bernardino as I +xt6g2YD5Hro-01227-00318990-00319210 mentioned we are building an educational +xt6g2YD5Hro-01228-00319211-00319550 game the game is commissioned by the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01229-00319551-00319775 Department of Anthropology it's an +xt6g2YD5Hro-01230-00319776-00320012 archeological game that teaches students +xt6g2YD5Hro-01231-00320013-00320281 how to recognize artifacts in the field +xt6g2YD5Hro-01232-00320282-00320591 and how to infer what was happening on +xt6g2YD5Hro-01233-00320592-00320809 in the field based on those artifacts +xt6g2YD5Hro-01234-00320810-00321113 right and we wanted to organize an +xt6g2YD5Hro-01235-00321114-00321350 experiment that would actually compare +xt6g2YD5Hro-01236-00321351-00321735 how students who are playing this game +xt6g2YD5Hro-01237-00321736-00322019 how do they do on a test when they are +xt6g2YD5Hro-01238-00322020-00322207 exposed to a traditional method of +xt6g2YD5Hro-01239-00322208-00322483 teaching about fieldwork and where are +xt6g2YD5Hro-01240-00322484-00322587 actually mercy +xt6g2YD5Hro-01241-00322588-00322839 this game that said I would also +xt6g2YD5Hro-01242-00322840-00322998 acknowledge the fact that there is +xt6g2YD5Hro-01243-00322999-00323276 pressure precious few you know +xt6g2YD5Hro-01244-00323277-00323490 peer-reviewed articles that are talking +xt6g2YD5Hro-01245-00323491-00323772 about the effect of VR content on +xt6g2YD5Hro-01246-00323773-00324042 learning and I would certainly and even +xt6g2YD5Hro-01247-00324043-00324282 you know on empathy come to think of it +xt6g2YD5Hro-01248-00324283-00324474 the topic is quite controversial and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01249-00324475-00324840 there are lots of pros and cons and data +xt6g2YD5Hro-01250-00324841-00325068 subpoena support and data contradicting +xt6g2YD5Hro-01252-00331717-00332336 other question from the audience so like +xt6g2YD5Hro-01253-00332337-00332733 so have this work so have any of you +xt6g2YD5Hro-01254-00332734-00333141 actually integrated your experiences +xt6g2YD5Hro-01255-00333142-00333384 with an LMS using like experiencial +xt6g2YD5Hro-01256-00333385-00333744 API or squirm or something else because +xt6g2YD5Hro-01257-00333745-00333858 that's one of the things that I'm a +xt6g2YD5Hro-01258-00333859-00334110 developer and I'm having huge issue with +xt6g2YD5Hro-01259-00334111-00334287 the bureaucracy of trying to integrate +xt6g2YD5Hro-01260-00334288-00334629 it into the LMS and there is not really +xt6g2YD5Hro-01261-00334630-00334974 a lot of documentation out there on the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01262-00334975-00335220 correct coding to integrate it and I was +xt6g2YD5Hro-01263-00335221-00335546 just wondering if anybody had any +xt6g2YD5Hro-01264-00335547-00335960 no I haven't and it's because it's +xt6g2YD5Hro-01265-00335961-00336305 unavailable and what is available is +xt6g2YD5Hro-01266-00336306-00336540 weak I don't teach my class on Facebook +xt6g2YD5Hro-01267-00336541-00336734 if I have low takes on Facebook you can +xt6g2YD5Hro-01268-00336735-00337089 3d it to some extent but the other way +xt6g2YD5Hro-01269-00337090-00337344 is to create a common your give a +xt6g2YD5Hro-01270-00337345-00337473 Creative Commons license to your own +xt6g2YD5Hro-01271-00337474-00337623 work and put it up on YouTube so that +xt6g2YD5Hro-01272-00337624-00337791 people can watch it from there and +xt6g2YD5Hro-01273-00337792-00338099 that's one way of going about it but +xt6g2YD5Hro-01274-00338100-00338391 right now I don't have an answer to your +xt6g2YD5Hro-01275-00338392-00338691 LMS integration for this content we have +xt6g2YD5Hro-01276-00338692-00338946 campus and I go ahead and put up just +xt6g2YD5Hro-01277-00338947-00339356 the working files the 360 files that the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01278-00339357-00339588 students then can download and look +xt6g2YD5Hro-01279-00339589-00339747 through their cardboard and do the +xt6g2YD5Hro-01280-00339748-00340055 analysis and reaction but in terms of +xt6g2YD5Hro-01281-00340056-00340529 actually using canvas as a platform so +xt6g2YD5Hro-01282-00340530-00340973 far we are unfortunately out of time but +xt6g2YD5Hro-01283-00340974-00341145 I want to thank our panelists for their +xt6g2YD5Hro-01284-00341146-00341392 willingness and and enthusiasm +xt6g2YD5Hro-01285-00341393-00341834 [Applause] +xtDcTorEReg-00000-00000000-00001845 [Music] +xtDcTorEReg-00001-00001846-00002167 my name is barb I'm the leader and kind +xtDcTorEReg-00002-00002168-00002494 of like a translator for this hello I'm +xtDcTorEReg-00003-00002495-00002672 where do I dance unseen +xtDcTorEReg-00004-00002673-00003247 [Applause] +xtDcTorEReg-00005-00003248-00003749 chuckles you're my heart +xtDcTorEReg-00006-00003750-00004140 my name is Ruth +xtDcTorEReg-00007-00004141-00004577 Jimmy +xtDcTorEReg-00008-00004578-00004846 I'm nothing to ball +xtDcTorEReg-00010-00008392-00009602 [Music] +xtDcTorEReg-00011-00009603-00009768 [Applause] +xtDcTorEReg-00012-00009769-00011300 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00000-00000000-00000455 I will do the intro so tutor is Curly um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00001-00000456-00000695 AFK for a bit I'm just gonna do a little +xvcVR0vKr5A-00002-00000696-00000881 bit of the intro so this is currently +xvcVR0vKr5A-00003-00000882-00001300 for tuskers daily for second of ma +xvcVR0vKr5A-00004-00001301-00001655 freaking hell sorry it's April it's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00005-00001655-00001829 April +xvcVR0vKr5A-00006-00001830-00002141 off sorry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00007-00002142-00002465 yesterday was an April Fool's Day uh we +xvcVR0vKr5A-00008-00002466-00002675 got +xvcVR0vKr5A-00009-00002676-00002957 oh I already forgot the message was it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00010-00002958-00003113 wasn't the one with the freaking shield +xvcVR0vKr5A-00011-00003114-00003490 no no no the end one then this one yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00012-00003492-00003790 it was the one with the Sentry Virgo +xvcVR0vKr5A-00013-00003792-00003893 correctly +xvcVR0vKr5A-00014-00003894-00004127 I was faster than everyone else though +xvcVR0vKr5A-00015-00004128-00004354 that's like really really interesting oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00016-00004355-00004541 yeah okay I remember that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00017-00004542-00004625 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00018-00004626-00004925 two centuries one leaper +xvcVR0vKr5A-00019-00004926-00005165 um I somewhat moved the leaper away from +xvcVR0vKr5A-00020-00005166-00005452 the shift defensive so um that took a +xvcVR0vKr5A-00021-00005453-00005872 little bit of the um off time of things +xvcVR0vKr5A-00022-00005873-00006167 um I managed to bring two centuries +xvcVR0vKr5A-00023-00006168-00006413 um from their safe room so I was able to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00024-00006414-00006598 kill them at the same time in the city +xvcVR0vKr5A-00025-00006600-00006905 friendships and yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00026-00006906-00007241 I thought I I missed one of the defense +xvcVR0vKr5A-00027-00007242-00007546 terminals but turns out like +xvcVR0vKr5A-00028-00007547-00007913 I didn't I just haven't activated it and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00029-00007914-00008110 yeah you know the drill see if you find +xvcVR0vKr5A-00030-00008111-00008291 that out eventually and I thought like +xvcVR0vKr5A-00031-00008292-00008531 no there was no ship Define there was a +xvcVR0vKr5A-00032-00008532-00008746 Defense command in it and then yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00033-00008747-00008945 [__] I'm about to get a [__] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00034-00008946-00009101 headache +xvcVR0vKr5A-00035-00009102-00009341 the pressure went way up +xvcVR0vKr5A-00036-00009342-00010174 hey let me check the pressure +xvcVR0vKr5A-00037-00010175-00010655 um two three Cube you're there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00038-00010656-00011209 laughs +xvcVR0vKr5A-00039-00011210-00011596 oh okay oh I'm glad I'm glad people +xvcVR0vKr5A-00040-00011597-00011867 still got number zero in this one at +xvcVR0vKr5A-00041-00011868-00012131 least so that's really nice +xvcVR0vKr5A-00042-00012132-00012463 yeah uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00043-00012464-00012695 manually and yelled at me because I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00044-00012696-00012922 didn't find it early and I also thought +xvcVR0vKr5A-00045-00012923-00013163 that that terminal didn't have like +xvcVR0vKr5A-00046-00013163-00013336 the freaking defense on it so yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00047-00013337-00013483 congratulations +xvcVR0vKr5A-00048-00013484-00013753 29.5 kilo pascals +xvcVR0vKr5A-00049-00013754-00014033 which is way high +xvcVR0vKr5A-00050-00014034-00014171 we're here +xvcVR0vKr5A-00051-00014172-00014375 so change weather +xvcVR0vKr5A-00052-00014376-00014549 oh yeah yeah it's gonna be coming soon +xvcVR0vKr5A-00053-00014550-00014686 indeed +xvcVR0vKr5A-00054-00014687-00014938 um anyway last night was rain yeah we +xvcVR0vKr5A-00055-00014940-00015077 should get started holy [__] we've been +xvcVR0vKr5A-00056-00015078-00015227 talking for [__] half an hour oh my +xvcVR0vKr5A-00057-00015228-00015479 god oh crap sorry so um I'm gonna do +xvcVR0vKr5A-00058-00015480-00015785 that uh inter wrapping a bit then I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00059-00015786-00016003 actually have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00060-00016004-00016343 okay I'll get started right now to be +xvcVR0vKr5A-00061-00016344-00016625 honest all right I have all actually +xvcVR0vKr5A-00062-00016626-00016889 done the freaking intro +xvcVR0vKr5A-00063-00016890-00017303 for the fast oh two minutes that's silly +xvcVR0vKr5A-00064-00017304-00017579 but it's okay I wasn't recording I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00065-00017580-00017863 stepped away it's okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00066-00017864-00018065 hi everyone +xvcVR0vKr5A-00067-00018066-00018269 um oh dude it's fine don't worry I'm a +xvcVR0vKr5A-00068-00018270-00018383 sticky did the intro and I wasn't +xvcVR0vKr5A-00069-00018384-00018611 recording because I [__] it up um no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00070-00018612-00018775 you just came back +xvcVR0vKr5A-00071-00018776-00019186 from century and it was fine and probe +xvcVR0vKr5A-00072-00019187-00019450 didn't break from most of us except for +xvcVR0vKr5A-00073-00019451-00019697 poor Marvin yeah Marvin Marvin lost it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00074-00019698-00020171 that sad face and liquid lost stuff +xvcVR0vKr5A-00075-00020172-00020567 um of course liquid tips liquid +xvcVR0vKr5A-00076-00020568-00020789 um and the standard or and the modded +xvcVR0vKr5A-00077-00020790-00020927 daily challenge +xvcVR0vKr5A-00078-00020928-00021013 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00079-00021014-00021343 oh yeah I got goo in room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00080-00021344-00021664 starting generator room and yeah yeah it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00081-00021665-00021929 was not great and I had to bail yeah he +xvcVR0vKr5A-00082-00021930-00022114 decided to go hey if you ever regretted +xvcVR0vKr5A-00083-00022115-00022271 the run and now we're in Solo and now +xvcVR0vKr5A-00084-00022272-00022697 what Jesus yeah well I had to go AFK +xvcVR0vKr5A-00085-00022698-00022841 um I wasn't I was actually feeling kind +xvcVR0vKr5A-00086-00022842-00023007 of sick that day +xvcVR0vKr5A-00087-00023008-00023449 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00088-00023450-00023717 all right freaking ice cream freaking +xvcVR0vKr5A-00089-00023718-00023891 ice cream I thought the ice cream would +xvcVR0vKr5A-00090-00023892-00024017 be fine turns out that that ice cream +xvcVR0vKr5A-00091-00024018-00024280 doesn't treat me well no it's they're +xvcVR0vKr5A-00092-00024281-00024635 not I'm disappointed oh well +xvcVR0vKr5A-00093-00024636-00024844 if you're going to get a better rest +xvcVR0vKr5A-00094-00024845-00025114 this time Jesus uh this is the duskers +xvcVR0vKr5A-00095-00025115-00025307 daily challenge for I don't know what is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00096-00025308-00025667 the second of April yep 2023 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00097-00025668-00026008 yes or 2023 April 2nd uh yesterday was +xvcVR0vKr5A-00098-00026010-00026183 April 1st +xvcVR0vKr5A-00099-00026183-00026405 um I think the best part about this is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00100-00026406-00026596 this is April 1st so I can tell Mystique +xvcVR0vKr5A-00101-00026597-00026758 don't uh don't forget to use remote +xvcVR0vKr5A-00102-00026760-00027083 power +xvcVR0vKr5A-00103-00027083-00027589 damn it all right I want I won I won I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00104-00027589-00027899 promise hopefully I've got gleap with +xvcVR0vKr5A-00105-00027900-00028199 120 Health LV with 10 or 110 health and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00106-00028200-00028402 tiato with 100 Health that gives us a +xvcVR0vKr5A-00107-00028404-00028612 total of 30 points above average joint +xvcVR0vKr5A-00108-00028613-00028757 health our ship upgrade today is remote +xvcVR0vKr5A-00109-00028758-00028931 power so Mystique I better not forget +xvcVR0vKr5A-00110-00028932-00029111 about it and we're doing things today +xvcVR0vKr5A-00111-00029112-00029339 with a sensor uh so sensor it is and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00112-00029339-00029567 censor it shall be we have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00113-00029568-00029879 four extra air locks five airlocks and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00114-00029880-00030035 we are on a salvage with two different +xvcVR0vKr5A-00115-00030036-00030155 stations the home Target East medium +xvcVR0vKr5A-00116-00030156-00030299 with an age of 230 volatile Scout +xvcVR0vKr5A-00117-00030300-00030551 capacity of 178 this shouldn't be too +xvcVR0vKr5A-00118-00030552-00030695 bad all right I'm gonna say this group +xvcVR0vKr5A-00119-00030695-00030905 is going to be really empty yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00120-00030906-00030923 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00121-00030924-00031020 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00122-00031022-00031193 all right +xvcVR0vKr5A-00123-00031194-00031402 um I'm gonna bring my all my turns out +xvcVR0vKr5A-00124-00031404-00031739 and hopefully uh the power wouldn't be +xvcVR0vKr5A-00125-00031739-00032002 so disappointed so that I can uh check +xvcVR0vKr5A-00126-00032004-00032368 other airlocks cut it down in three two +xvcVR0vKr5A-00127-00032369-00032933 one let's go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00128-00032934-00033083 what have you got +xvcVR0vKr5A-00129-00033084-00033539 teleport yes that's useful let's go nice +xvcVR0vKr5A-00130-00033540-00033796 um such a terrible spot I don't have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00131-00033797-00034133 doesn't work +xvcVR0vKr5A-00132-00034134-00034439 oh no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00133-00034440-00034805 we've got survey okay sheepskin defense +xvcVR0vKr5A-00134-00034806-00035117 hardest oh well I'll check +xvcVR0vKr5A-00135-00035118-00035237 nope +xvcVR0vKr5A-00136-00035238-00035731 nope +xvcVR0vKr5A-00137-00035732-00035999 all right you can do 12. it's empty it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00138-00036000-00036221 seems yep it is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00139-00036222-00036467 okay finally I can take some airlocks uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00140-00036468-00036599 probably should not be a day too but +xvcVR0vKr5A-00141-00036600-00036796 whatever I already did +xvcVR0vKr5A-00142-00036797-00037067 all right uh what about uh that small +xvcVR0vKr5A-00143-00037068-00037277 room down there our 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00144-00037278-00037495 okay checking +xvcVR0vKr5A-00145-00037496-00037787 uh another party lead +xvcVR0vKr5A-00146-00037788-00037961 oh I see that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00147-00037962-00038267 all right that's not great uh we have an +xvcVR0vKr5A-00148-00038268-00038633 open door in room 13. yeah it's 3 15. I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00149-00038634-00038824 have closed that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00150-00038825-00039095 um oh I forgot my desktop timer oh well +xvcVR0vKr5A-00151-00039096-00039335 no timer it is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00152-00039336-00039979 uh door 20. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00153-00039980-00040312 it's not there for me in uh what is what +xvcVR0vKr5A-00154-00040313-00040589 room is that R6 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00155-00040590-00040835 okay A2 seems to be empty I'm checking +xvcVR0vKr5A-00156-00040836-00041093 there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00157-00041094-00041383 I am gonna actually leave +xvcVR0vKr5A-00158-00041384-00041759 or not leave but um I'm gonna leave +xvcVR0vKr5A-00159-00041760-00041974 those oh that's an Open Door Fortune +xvcVR0vKr5A-00160-00041975-00042185 what do we got mistika I'm sorry all +xvcVR0vKr5A-00161-00042186-00042352 right we're only open the door I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00162-00042353-00042623 accidentally post and uh I think I'm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00163-00042624-00042973 fine +xvcVR0vKr5A-00164-00042974-00043205 okay a couple more seconds before slime +xvcVR0vKr5A-00165-00043206-00043307 timer +xvcVR0vKr5A-00166-00043308-00043535 yeah yeah I'm in the room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00167-00043536-00043835 I'm just waiting for stuff to move good +xvcVR0vKr5A-00168-00043836-00044189 if things are going to move I hate these +xvcVR0vKr5A-00169-00044190-00044524 rooms you can't darn Peak them +xvcVR0vKr5A-00170-00044525-00044717 all right here swarm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00171-00044718-00044951 room 6 is empty so far I've been still +xvcVR0vKr5A-00172-00044952-00045190 exploring the empty rooms uh I will go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00173-00045191-00045623 try to uh I think it's empty Center yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00174-00045624-00045880 yeah I know room six rooms it was the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00175-00045881-00046258 open it was oh so A2 slime a to slime +xvcVR0vKr5A-00176-00046259-00046612 hmm oh okay there you go gotta go there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00177-00046613-00046762 now +xvcVR0vKr5A-00178-00046763-00046961 that's our seven right +xvcVR0vKr5A-00179-00046962-00047207 R7 yes +xvcVR0vKr5A-00180-00047208-00047596 [__] oh [__] oh God do a hurricane is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00181-00047597-00048049 also slime room four room four sad face +xvcVR0vKr5A-00182-00048050-00048580 oh God oh my God +xvcVR0vKr5A-00183-00048581-00048730 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00184-00048731-00049024 yeah I just lost it too oh I should I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00185-00049025-00049211 should just freaking +xvcVR0vKr5A-00186-00049212-00049385 power and let's use remote power like a +xvcVR0vKr5A-00187-00049386-00049505 dum dum +xvcVR0vKr5A-00188-00049506-00049990 see see it happens it happens thank you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00189-00049991-00050296 T3 Cube +xvcVR0vKr5A-00190-00050297-00050590 you just might have been the same +xvcVR0vKr5A-00191-00050591-00051114 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00192-00051115-00051323 is you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00193-00051324-00051587 scrap in room seven see if you can enter +xvcVR0vKr5A-00194-00051588-00051696 from +xvcVR0vKr5A-00195-00051697-00052054 t214 it's not good for me +xvcVR0vKr5A-00196-00052055-00052170 F +xvcVR0vKr5A-00197-00052171-00052565 and a friend there too +xvcVR0vKr5A-00198-00052566-00052775 Fred at room seven +xvcVR0vKr5A-00199-00052776-00053075 I don't hear anything in r13 so let's uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00200-00053076-00053435 see if we get r13 what do we got +xvcVR0vKr5A-00201-00053436-00053682 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00202-00053683-00054113 I'll check there later then I will check +xvcVR0vKr5A-00203-00054114-00055441 it by a normal a sensor check-in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00204-00055441-00055907 we're gonna get it nothing in r13 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00205-00055908-00056159 oh okay I'm going there nothing there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00206-00056160-00056350 don't bother +xvcVR0vKr5A-00207-00056351-00056604 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00208-00056605-00056992 did not get debate damn +xvcVR0vKr5A-00209-00056994-00057257 but don't know it's not my gut +xvcVR0vKr5A-00210-00057258-00057442 there's nothing there I just went in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00211-00057444-00057766 there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00212-00057767-00057994 uh is there anything in R8 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00213-00057995-00058404 all right it's nothing +xvcVR0vKr5A-00214-00058405-00058738 uh room five on the other hand has some +xvcVR0vKr5A-00215-00058739-00059044 scraps +xvcVR0vKr5A-00216-00059045-00059413 um probably such a surveyor +xvcVR0vKr5A-00217-00059414-00059723 and some of them said I should try check +xvcVR0vKr5A-00218-00059724-00060179 room one room five room five yes +xvcVR0vKr5A-00219-00060179-00060419 Sentry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00220-00060420-00060647 okay I got one of the goose +xvcVR0vKr5A-00221-00060648-00060821 Sentry okay well we don't have to worry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00222-00060822-00061079 about anything else then yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00223-00061079-00061241 well maybe you have to worry about how +xvcVR0vKr5A-00224-00061241-00061666 you will radiate them for sure +xvcVR0vKr5A-00225-00061667-00061811 wait +xvcVR0vKr5A-00226-00061812-00062087 don't forget turret oh yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00227-00062088-00062513 maybe up to it upgrade copy toad great +xvcVR0vKr5A-00228-00062514-00063004 no don't bother uh that's R5 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00229-00063005-00063454 um fuel access it's at room 14 in no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00230-00063455-00063694 um oh biscuits +xvcVR0vKr5A-00231-00063695-00063941 got dead well so much we're going to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00232-00063941-00064282 that room room four I totally missed it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00233-00064283-00064499 yeah oh I think I've missed the two oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00234-00064500-00064594 [__] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00235-00064595-00064900 hmm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00236-00064901-00065249 uh there is scrap in there oh no chase +xvcVR0vKr5A-00237-00065250-00065675 wait I got an idea +xvcVR0vKr5A-00238-00065676-00065879 um tell our five oh I didn't realize my +xvcVR0vKr5A-00239-00065880-00066281 music's still on oh all right then +xvcVR0vKr5A-00240-00066282-00066556 I'm gonna just take that teleport and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00241-00066557-00067013 we're gonna oh nice +xvcVR0vKr5A-00242-00067014-00067175 all right let's see what you got there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00243-00067176-00067559 power in room four oh boy +xvcVR0vKr5A-00244-00067560-00067799 wait did you take any damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00245-00067800-00068182 uh no damage good 10 damage oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00246-00068183-00068323 bro +xvcVR0vKr5A-00247-00068324-00068794 oh slime sometimes 10 damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00248-00068795-00069005 okay it did work +xvcVR0vKr5A-00249-00069006-00069191 that's not too bad +xvcVR0vKr5A-00250-00069192-00069526 um there is more scrap though in R4 oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00251-00069527-00069671 my God where am I gonna be teleported +xvcVR0vKr5A-00252-00069672-00069863 and wonder I wonder +xvcVR0vKr5A-00253-00069864-00070138 okay yeah I see it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00254-00070139-00070481 subscribes here yeah you're right +xvcVR0vKr5A-00255-00070482-00070625 can we talk +xvcVR0vKr5A-00256-00070626-00070835 let's talk to E3 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00257-00070836-00071003 um anything in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00258-00071004-00071194 there was nothing in room two right or +xvcVR0vKr5A-00259-00071195-00071332 was that note that was Century High +xvcVR0vKr5A-00260-00071333-00071663 century +xvcVR0vKr5A-00261-00071664-00071794 all right I'm Gonna Keep the teleport +xvcVR0vKr5A-00262-00071795-00071909 instead of the toe because I don't think +xvcVR0vKr5A-00263-00071910-00072082 we could have anything else +xvcVR0vKr5A-00264-00072083-00072431 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00265-00072432-00072887 um so room three yeah it has more uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00266-00072888-00073079 scraps and a drone with toe and damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00267-00073080-00073375 teleport +xvcVR0vKr5A-00268-00073376-00073625 all right yeah glad we didn't find that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00269-00073626-00073985 during early okay so we're failing oh I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00270-00073986-00074332 just went away from that airlock it just +xvcVR0vKr5A-00271-00074333-00074897 started failing okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00272-00074898-00075341 okay so we're gonna put the uh steak +xvcVR0vKr5A-00273-00075342-00075709 all right there you go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00274-00075710-00076255 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00275-00076256-00076505 okay sounds good but it didn't work +xvcVR0vKr5A-00276-00076506-00076723 let's go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00277-00076724-00077206 but I don't vent those rooms +xvcVR0vKr5A-00278-00077207-00077326 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00279-00077327-00077525 where am I gonna kill the century that's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00280-00077526-00077717 what I would like to know +xvcVR0vKr5A-00281-00077718-00077926 door 21 has killed itself that's not +xvcVR0vKr5A-00282-00077927-00078382 great I can kill it in room 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00283-00078383-00078856 um teleport 312 yeah okay let's kill it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00284-00078857-00079150 in room ten ten more seconds oh no sorry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00285-00079151-00079373 15. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00286-00079374-00079762 or 10. 10 more seconds okay yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00287-00079763-00080029 so you see a sensor is there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00288-00080030-00080285 I will I think I can kill it in room 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00289-00080286-00080441 if I can fit it into room 10 and I get +xvcVR0vKr5A-00290-00080442-00080561 the radiation in there I can make it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00291-00080562-00080765 work oh yeah yeah yeah that's an actual +xvcVR0vKr5A-00292-00080766-00080897 win +xvcVR0vKr5A-00293-00080898-00081065 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00294-00081066-00082144 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00295-00082145-00082582 nothing there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00296-00082583-00083038 okay how is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00297-00083039-00083194 the hand okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00298-00083195-00083350 so let's see if we can get into room 10 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00299-00083351-00083879 GTA one +xvcVR0vKr5A-00300-00083880-00084221 three is fine +xvcVR0vKr5A-00301-00084222-00084532 I did take 10 damage to get the scrap oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00302-00084533-00084712 no so I don't know if you got that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00303-00084713-00084953 there's at least one more scrap yeah I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00304-00084954-00085115 get as well I got it I got it without +xvcVR0vKr5A-00305-00085116-00085349 with better damage I got a bit lucky +xvcVR0vKr5A-00306-00085350-00085511 there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00307-00085512-00085793 yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00308-00085794-00085961 of course the century is gonna get +xvcVR0vKr5A-00309-00085962-00086212 blocked by the freaking close door to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00310-00086213-00086393 Jesus +xvcVR0vKr5A-00311-00086394-00086794 come here you silly goose +xvcVR0vKr5A-00312-00086795-00087125 see if he can make it into the room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00313-00087126-00087353 I think you can try to fit it in just +xvcVR0vKr5A-00314-00087354-00087538 gonna take some effort +xvcVR0vKr5A-00315-00087539-00087941 defense nobody doesn't fit +xvcVR0vKr5A-00316-00087942-00088125 it fits +xvcVR0vKr5A-00317-00088126-00088432 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00318-00088433-00088582 um you can actually put it into drop 22 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00319-00088583-00088888 and it'll be better suited for our eight +xvcVR0vKr5A-00320-00088889-00089075 radiation +xvcVR0vKr5A-00321-00089076-00089394 so +xvcVR0vKr5A-00322-00089395-00089603 all right now I have to choose how I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00323-00089604-00089747 want to radiate it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00324-00089748-00089897 I think I would like to access it from +xvcVR0vKr5A-00325-00089898-00090647 R8 I'll take it from d34 and yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00326-00090648-00091006 um also 20 more seconds to slime timer +xvcVR0vKr5A-00327-00091007-00091235 yeah I'm off the ship +xvcVR0vKr5A-00328-00091236-00091511 oh man please do not +xvcVR0vKr5A-00329-00091512-00091726 corruptive plus command because freak +xvcVR0vKr5A-00330-00091727-00091956 you game +xvcVR0vKr5A-00331-00091957-00092500 I'm gonna irradiate r13 va4 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00332-00092501-00092676 that's gonna be the best bet +xvcVR0vKr5A-00333-00092677-00093215 oh Rogue spawn in room 11 room 11. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00334-00093216-00093767 oh that's the room that I just rented +xvcVR0vKr5A-00335-00093768-00093935 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00336-00093936-00094132 um it's not a big deal I can still make +xvcVR0vKr5A-00337-00094133-00094267 it work +xvcVR0vKr5A-00338-00094268-00094535 I can too +xvcVR0vKr5A-00339-00094536-00094726 all right don't forget your teleport so +xvcVR0vKr5A-00340-00094727-00095029 you can like have a chance on nothing +xvcVR0vKr5A-00341-00095030-00095226 what the hell +xvcVR0vKr5A-00342-00095227-00095688 get out from the room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00343-00095689-00095909 okay it has +xvcVR0vKr5A-00344-00095910-00096106 A4 is failing I don't think we care +xvcVR0vKr5A-00345-00096107-00096803 about A4 anymore +xvcVR0vKr5A-00346-00096804-00097018 I almost used that room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00347-00097019-00097535 for us so because I waited +xvcVR0vKr5A-00348-00097536-00097876 oh my God +xvcVR0vKr5A-00349-00097877-00098650 why no freaking way no way okay thanks +xvcVR0vKr5A-00350-00098651-00098850 freak this man +xvcVR0vKr5A-00351-00098851-00099235 God dang it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00352-00099236-00099400 four +xvcVR0vKr5A-00353-00099401-00099532 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00354-00099533-00099667 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00355-00099668-00100006 maintain kill maintain call maintain +xvcVR0vKr5A-00356-00100007-00100109 calm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00357-00100110-00100493 for uh 422 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00358-00100494-00100697 screw this I'm gonna wait man I prefer +xvcVR0vKr5A-00359-00100698-00101062 to wait for the freaking 11 40 radiation +xvcVR0vKr5A-00360-00101063-00101321 timer yes it's gonna happen +xvcVR0vKr5A-00361-00101322-00101843 Jesus +xvcVR0vKr5A-00362-00101844-00102191 let's see if we get the century come on +xvcVR0vKr5A-00363-00102192-00102640 okay I did it it's in position nice +xvcVR0vKr5A-00364-00102641-00103006 we're good to go you know what uh might +xvcVR0vKr5A-00365-00103007-00103342 despise it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00366-00103343-00103697 oh no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00367-00103698-00103966 I'm gonna bait I'm gonna bait to 10 more +xvcVR0vKr5A-00368-00103967-00104147 seconds I'm gonna be in room five and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00369-00104148-00104303 hope that we get the bait there instead +xvcVR0vKr5A-00370-00104304-00104651 of room 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00371-00104652-00105023 please I got the bait I got it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00372-00105024-00105239 we're good to go all right now I just +xvcVR0vKr5A-00373-00105240-00105334 gotta kill the century they're taking +xvcVR0vKr5A-00374-00105335-00105490 damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00375-00105491-00105851 um how do I approach this +xvcVR0vKr5A-00376-00105852-00106036 uh gather teleport gather teleport +xvcVR0vKr5A-00377-00106038-00106301 gather teleport yeah I know I know +xvcVR0vKr5A-00378-00106302-00106619 no like that's the uh jackpot film that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00379-00106620-00106871 I want to set you to die at it freaking +xvcVR0vKr5A-00380-00106872-00107249 Rock slime too annoying +xvcVR0vKr5A-00381-00107250-00107501 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00382-00107502-00108010 G +xvcVR0vKr5A-00383-00108011-00108323 no oh no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00384-00108324-00108640 oh you're not gonna believe this +xvcVR0vKr5A-00385-00108641-00109097 you're not gonna believe this +xvcVR0vKr5A-00386-00109098-00109384 you're not gonna believe this you're not +xvcVR0vKr5A-00387-00109385-00109577 gonna believe this no no no no you're +xvcVR0vKr5A-00388-00109578-00109745 not gonna believe this +xvcVR0vKr5A-00389-00109746-00110021 you're kidding right Mystique you're not +xvcVR0vKr5A-00390-00110022-00110290 gonna believe what happened there's no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00391-00110291-00110758 way so holy [__] guess +xvcVR0vKr5A-00392-00110759-00110927 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00393-00110928-00111197 um maintain just fine maintain the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00394-00111198-00111431 hitbox of the Drone was just small +xvcVR0vKr5A-00395-00111432-00111671 enough that it only picked up one of the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00396-00111672-00111913 scrap even though +xvcVR0vKr5A-00397-00111914-00112307 that one first cap on either side it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00398-00112308-00112547 only picked up one of them because drone +xvcVR0vKr5A-00399-00112548-00112919 hitbox oh my God yeah yeah we took one +xvcVR0vKr5A-00400-00112920-00113323 in the very center I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00401-00113324-00113728 there's just no way that hurts okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00402-00113729-00114215 that's painful +xvcVR0vKr5A-00403-00114216-00114610 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00404-00114611-00114743 I'm gonna go ahead and vent that room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00405-00114744-00114947 okay wait wait wait wait wait don't open +xvcVR0vKr5A-00406-00114948-00115349 the detail uh some timer +xvcVR0vKr5A-00407-00115350-00115793 I said to bait again vacuum 782 because +xvcVR0vKr5A-00408-00115794-00116051 I don't carry that room anymore +xvcVR0vKr5A-00409-00116052-00116290 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00410-00116291-00116554 I wanted you to be at room 12 but I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00411-00116555-00116831 wanna orcas orchestrated so bad that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00412-00116832-00117184 it's going to die nearby the 26th +xvcVR0vKr5A-00413-00117185-00117340 um it's gonna be a little bit of brain +xvcVR0vKr5A-00414-00117341-00117773 power but I want to make it to work +xvcVR0vKr5A-00415-00117774-00117903 in some way +xvcVR0vKr5A-00416-00117904-00118036 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00417-00118038-00118510 uh please don't break +xvcVR0vKr5A-00418-00118511-00118877 it broke of course it broke the power oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00419-00118878-00119158 um of course yeah why wouldn't it break +xvcVR0vKr5A-00420-00119159-00119477 the power you know I know +xvcVR0vKr5A-00421-00119478-00119704 okay I'm gonna be hella slow I just +xvcVR0vKr5A-00422-00119705-00119939 don't want this to be +xvcVR0vKr5A-00423-00119940-00120281 um oh maybe just maybe +xvcVR0vKr5A-00424-00120282-00120490 I'm debating on whether I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00425-00120491-00120766 can get in there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00426-00120767-00120934 okay I don't know if I can get in there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00427-00120935-00121090 I don't think I can +xvcVR0vKr5A-00428-00121091-00121301 toe on the teleport any Towing damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00429-00121302-00121451 teleport I mean the teleport was useful +xvcVR0vKr5A-00430-00121452-00121739 but damn that was that was painful +xvcVR0vKr5A-00431-00121740-00122051 where I managed to get right in there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00432-00122052-00122260 okay I'm using it I think I'm done okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00433-00122261-00122578 good game uh 18 scrap no fuel because +xvcVR0vKr5A-00434-00122579-00122783 there wasn't any +xvcVR0vKr5A-00435-00122783-00123275 um a drone with one upgrade and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00436-00123276-00123634 a destroy drone with one upgrade and a +xvcVR0vKr5A-00437-00123635-00124090 damage drone with two upgrades +xvcVR0vKr5A-00438-00124091-00124384 um and how much damage did I take ten oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00439-00124385-00124666 mate no uh way more than that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00440-00124667-00125266 17 damage 17 so two uh no yeah you took +xvcVR0vKr5A-00441-00125267-00125578 two tickets that's something about oh my +xvcVR0vKr5A-00442-00125579-00125952 God one little red and uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00443-00125953-00126377 who got 10 26 on that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00444-00126378-00126599 um higher score sorry yeah high score +xvcVR0vKr5A-00445-00126600-00126760 nice +xvcVR0vKr5A-00446-00126761-00127169 so far they didn't take the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00447-00127170-00127331 looks like they were able to get some of +xvcVR0vKr5A-00448-00127332-00127504 this scrap without taking the damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00449-00127505-00127643 they got the same scrap that I did +xvcVR0vKr5A-00450-00127644-00127823 actually I think I got all the scrap but +xvcVR0vKr5A-00451-00127824-00128027 took way more damage uh I guess they +xvcVR0vKr5A-00452-00128028-00128219 just decided to throw caution into the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00453-00128220-00128458 wind and go for it yeah okay sorry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00454-00128459-00128621 you're gonna have to wait for me I just +xvcVR0vKr5A-00455-00128622-00128813 feel like I want to be oh there it is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00456-00128814-00129034 finally I'm free from myself so slow +xvcVR0vKr5A-00457-00129035-00129293 today yeah what the hell man what's with +xvcVR0vKr5A-00458-00129294-00129528 the yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00459-00129529-00129863 by the way like that like dude the game +xvcVR0vKr5A-00460-00129864-00130319 will be like that sometimes and boy um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00461-00130320-00130552 fine ish +xvcVR0vKr5A-00462-00130553-00130858 oh my God what the hell but we're gonna +xvcVR0vKr5A-00463-00130859-00131002 look at the video mystique and you're +xvcVR0vKr5A-00464-00131003-00131183 gonna be like how did you miss both of +xvcVR0vKr5A-00465-00131184-00131428 those scrap it doesn't make any sense oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00466-00131429-00131597 that's gonna be a really really slow +xvcVR0vKr5A-00467-00131598-00131735 freaking +xvcVR0vKr5A-00468-00131736-00131969 radiation time +xvcVR0vKr5A-00469-00131970-00132233 yeah I I can't relate with that at least +xvcVR0vKr5A-00470-00132234-00132425 like you can like go back and forth I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00471-00132426-00132593 think I'm gonna clip it and post it on +xvcVR0vKr5A-00472-00132594-00132790 the Discord as a separate thing let's go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00473-00132791-00133073 because of how absurd it is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00474-00133074-00133433 I still can't believe it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00475-00133434-00134128 come here come here if you want to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00476-00134129-00134621 I mean oh that's hella close okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00477-00134622-00134849 we are now waiting +xvcVR0vKr5A-00478-00134850-00135095 mistika yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00479-00135096-00135281 hope it was I'll be with speed everybody +xvcVR0vKr5A-00480-00135282-00135599 was faster than liquid +xvcVR0vKr5A-00481-00135600-00135725 and they still didn't get one of the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00482-00135726-00135959 scraps I guess it was just uh it was the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00483-00135960-00136102 Q Lube +xvcVR0vKr5A-00484-00136103-00136301 come on come on and they only took four +xvcVR0vKr5A-00485-00136302-00136475 damage getting a Sentry scrap so +xvcVR0vKr5A-00486-00136476-00136702 congratulations on that that's actually +xvcVR0vKr5A-00487-00136703-00137137 uh really cool nice +xvcVR0vKr5A-00488-00137138-00137507 yeah that's four damage oh boy facility +xvcVR0vKr5A-00489-00137508-00137897 I'm scared for 17 30. okay 17 30 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00490-00137898-00138131 radiation is fine nothing much happening +xvcVR0vKr5A-00491-00138132-00138485 come on down yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00492-00138486-00138713 has the century died I don't know okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00493-00138714-00138839 crap +xvcVR0vKr5A-00494-00138840-00139193 that was hella close +xvcVR0vKr5A-00495-00139194-00139439 the door there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00496-00139440-00140116 but it came close again +xvcVR0vKr5A-00497-00140117-00140249 come on die +xvcVR0vKr5A-00498-00140250-00140477 when will you die +xvcVR0vKr5A-00499-00140478-00140875 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00500-00140876-00141143 two points of damage I'm getting out +xvcVR0vKr5A-00501-00141144-00141485 nice good two points game yep +xvcVR0vKr5A-00502-00141486-00141766 thanks 1008 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00503-00141767-00142043 uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00504-00142044-00142247 uh ah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00505-00142248-00142414 this crap from the Slime room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00506-00142415-00142733 congratulations you too nice +xvcVR0vKr5A-00507-00142734-00142907 there was still one more scrap in that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00508-00142908-00143081 gear room I guess you didn't yeah but I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00509-00143082-00143189 was talking yeah I didn't get there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00510-00143190-00143411 because this slime was when a bit too +xvcVR0vKr5A-00511-00143412-00143657 farther in my perspective so at least I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00512-00143658-00143969 managed to yeah oh well real well I took +xvcVR0vKr5A-00513-00143970-00144335 10 damage for it at least I still like +xvcVR0vKr5A-00514-00144336-00144761 took the last century damage but oh yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00515-00144762-00144978 oh well congrats +xvcVR0vKr5A-00516-00144979-00145366 and also the fact that the uh yeah the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00517-00145367-00145589 rock slime man what's up with that Jesus +xvcVR0vKr5A-00518-00145590-00145823 well that was not a great Rogue slime +xvcVR0vKr5A-00519-00145824-00146075 come on room 10. all right we're going +xvcVR0vKr5A-00520-00146076-00146278 immediately +xvcVR0vKr5A-00521-00146279-00146495 yeah let's go modded daily +xvcVR0vKr5A-00522-00146496-00146635 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00523-00146636-00146964 here we go let's see how terrible it is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00524-00146965-00147449 it will likely be terrible yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00525-00147450-00147616 okay Transporters required because we +xvcVR0vKr5A-00526-00147617-00147778 are on some set of outposts we once +xvcVR0vKr5A-00527-00147779-00147904 again need to remember to use remote +xvcVR0vKr5A-00528-00147905-00148175 power God damn it yeah yeah um okay okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00529-00148176-00148439 the helmet has speed and 240 drone +xvcVR0vKr5A-00530-00148440-00148583 health so I guess I'm using that I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00531-00148584-00148889 remember I will remember +xvcVR0vKr5A-00532-00148890-00149261 we got pry pry motion motion this time +xvcVR0vKr5A-00533-00149262-00149537 that'll be useful if you get stuck +xvcVR0vKr5A-00534-00149538-00149837 oh yeah for sure we might be able to ten +xvcVR0vKr5A-00535-00149838-00150059 airlocks finish this one in time +xvcVR0vKr5A-00536-00150060-00150347 and like complete with two infestations +xvcVR0vKr5A-00537-00150348-00150497 the home Target is meeting with an age +xvcVR0vKr5A-00538-00150498-00150773 of two 32 volatile scrap capacity of 50. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00539-00150774-00150995 oh then there's the Smith drone oh well +xvcVR0vKr5A-00540-00150996-00151319 time to use Brandon then all right for +xvcVR0vKr5A-00541-00151320-00151564 me it was Bahama yeah two and one okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00542-00151565-00151913 reboost with 240 Health 240 motion this +xvcVR0vKr5A-00543-00151914-00152237 is gonna be silly oh bear not list +xvcVR0vKr5A-00544-00152238-00152614 Brandon we have nine transporter signals +xvcVR0vKr5A-00545-00152615-00152747 left +xvcVR0vKr5A-00546-00152748-00153161 transport okay yeah right all right +xvcVR0vKr5A-00547-00153162-00153316 um I'm just gonna start cutting down +xvcVR0vKr5A-00548-00153317-00153683 radio comment three ready to go I'm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00549-00153684-00154085 going to room two two one let's go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00550-00154086-00154325 remote two there you go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00551-00154326-00154864 yep both of us remember to do that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00552-00154865-00155075 um wow that's a lot of rooms that are +xvcVR0vKr5A-00553-00155076-00155164 clear +xvcVR0vKr5A-00554-00155165-00155302 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00555-00155303-00155669 um Power Inlet and a drone at room 17 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00556-00155670-00156052 damage stealth oof +xvcVR0vKr5A-00557-00156053-00156251 oh I have the toe so I don't have to do +xvcVR0vKr5A-00558-00156252-00156569 that wait oh this is clear right door 32 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00559-00156570-00156928 is clear +xvcVR0vKr5A-00560-00156929-00157102 10 is also clear +xvcVR0vKr5A-00561-00157103-00157507 I'm saying this is the fuel door 32 yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00562-00157508-00157835 it's clear what's the road man that's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00563-00157836-00157954 the wrong door +xvcVR0vKr5A-00564-00157955-00158297 uh door nine or R9 sorry okay there you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00565-00158298-00158431 go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00566-00158432-00158795 all right power in room 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00567-00158796-00159071 scrap in room 10. oh nice nothing in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00568-00159072-00159389 room 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00569-00159390-00159964 okay let's go let's go let's go R17 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00570-00159965-00160228 fence we have defenses okay can't you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00571-00160229-00160511 start there oh lots of greens nothing +xvcVR0vKr5A-00572-00160512-00160763 alert alert alert was the Drone you said +xvcVR0vKr5A-00573-00160764-00160871 you said there was a drone somewhere and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00574-00160872-00161164 I forget where the Drone was everything +xvcVR0vKr5A-00575-00161165-00161459 room 17. I gotcha +xvcVR0vKr5A-00576-00161460-00161776 lots of cream store 39 is clear +xvcVR0vKr5A-00577-00161777-00162040 lots of greens I'm taking caution here +xvcVR0vKr5A-00578-00162041-00162316 I'm thinking you yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00579-00162317-00162733 I'm going to room 16. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00580-00162734-00163085 R17 you said let's go to room 17. yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00581-00163086-00163283 okay three more seconds to slime timer +xvcVR0vKr5A-00582-00163284-00163451 yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00583-00163452-00163745 I love you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00584-00163746-00163945 don't you love the way it jumps at you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00585-00163946-00164645 yeah and go on sets you yeah I know +xvcVR0vKr5A-00586-00164646-00165281 she really just like Globs +xvcVR0vKr5A-00587-00165282-00165635 the stick is why I have trust issues +xvcVR0vKr5A-00588-00165636-00165954 um Door 18 is broken +xvcVR0vKr5A-00589-00165955-00166283 wait what what do you mean broken it's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00590-00166284-00166673 uh it's got the airlock glitch to it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00591-00166674-00166793 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00592-00166794-00167128 okay I'll I'll investigate that later +xvcVR0vKr5A-00593-00167129-00167501 vent and stealth hmm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00594-00167502-00167699 that's damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00595-00167700-00168678 it's tempting I know +xvcVR0vKr5A-00596-00168679-00169104 isn't that room clear door 26 was clear +xvcVR0vKr5A-00597-00169105-00169402 all right there's another drone in door +xvcVR0vKr5A-00598-00169403-00169781 26 uh which is sensor probe to mine uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00599-00169782-00170261 R12 what door 26 oh okay R12 yep oh we +xvcVR0vKr5A-00600-00170262-00170578 got 12 mate we got swarm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00601-00170579-00170873 swarm is in room 15. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00602-00170874-00171059 it's warm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00603-00171060-00171335 oh yeah okay I see the door glitch oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00604-00171336-00171509 that's interesting for some people yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00605-00171510-00171754 I'm like what the hell but we do have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00606-00171755-00172157 sensors so that's good oh okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00607-00172158-00172385 so room 12 is clear right I'm going +xvcVR0vKr5A-00608-00172386-00172625 there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00609-00172626-00172871 um unless it has thing in it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00610-00172872-00173147 you know vent +xvcVR0vKr5A-00611-00173148-00173563 it had Vents and we could be in trouble +xvcVR0vKr5A-00612-00173564-00173909 that's a lot of scrap +xvcVR0vKr5A-00613-00173910-00174252 okay five six seven +xvcVR0vKr5A-00614-00174253-00174575 scrapping that long room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00615-00174576-00174869 yeah I hear the Swarm excellent uh would +xvcVR0vKr5A-00616-00174870-00175109 be nice if we had a Terminator to use +xvcVR0vKr5A-00617-00175110-00175475 but we don't +xvcVR0vKr5A-00618-00175476-00175828 yeah we don't have that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00619-00175829-00176171 I should make PP probe oh yeah okay it's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00620-00176172-00176428 empty what the hell man God damn it okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00621-00176429-00176651 what the hell man I know ladies and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00622-00176652-00177064 gentlemen +xvcVR0vKr5A-00623-00177065-00177383 friends signature mystica move oh no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00624-00177384-00177604 wait uh seven more seconds +xvcVR0vKr5A-00625-00177605-00177773 oh God +xvcVR0vKr5A-00626-00177774-00178157 dude okay good I'm out I'm out I'm out +xvcVR0vKr5A-00627-00178158-00178511 I'm out I'm out okay that's cool two +xvcVR0vKr5A-00628-00178512-00178597 two +xvcVR0vKr5A-00629-00178598-00178828 I better not take some damage that's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00630-00178829-00179225 gonna suck too much wait we have bro +xvcVR0vKr5A-00631-00179226-00179471 that's the question Jesus Christ yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00632-00179472-00179825 Pro okay go ahead and stop copulating +xvcVR0vKr5A-00633-00179826-00180095 everything R12 has a lot of uh scrap in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00634-00180096-00181199 it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00635-00181200-00181673 r13 test transporter yeah R11 R11 I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00636-00181674-00182026 haven't been there my God you're so rich +xvcVR0vKr5A-00637-00182027-00182459 nothing there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00638-00182460-00182788 okay nothing in our 13. I really like to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00639-00182789-00183088 unbox my game I swear not not R11 r13 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00640-00183089-00183316 has transporter sorry not our R11 has +xvcVR0vKr5A-00641-00183317-00183575 swarmed sorry sorry sorry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00642-00183576-00183814 room four has a thing and it's moving +xvcVR0vKr5A-00643-00183815-00183899 thing +xvcVR0vKr5A-00644-00183900-00184199 but it doesn't it has a bunch of stuff +xvcVR0vKr5A-00645-00184200-00184535 so I think we're not having slime +xvcVR0vKr5A-00646-00184536-00184804 yeah I I think it's century +xvcVR0vKr5A-00647-00184805-00184966 in which case mine is going to be +xvcVR0vKr5A-00648-00184967-00185495 helpful +xvcVR0vKr5A-00649-00185496-00185783 oh this room has transporter +xvcVR0vKr5A-00650-00185784-00185902 good enough +xvcVR0vKr5A-00651-00185903-00186269 actually +xvcVR0vKr5A-00652-00186270-00187087 no dark 12. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00653-00187088-00187528 15. why not I'll take the pro back +xvcVR0vKr5A-00654-00187529-00187816 and there's a scrap there oh obstruction +xvcVR0vKr5A-00655-00187817-00188069 lost transporter signal of course we do +xvcVR0vKr5A-00656-00188070-00188573 please transport signal yes +xvcVR0vKr5A-00657-00188574-00188843 pick up the [__] script what are you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00658-00188844-00189299 doing Jesus Christ yeah uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00659-00189300-00189551 uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00660-00189552-00189904 what oh god yep that's Jesus that's the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00661-00189905-00190145 one oh God that's the one Jesus crap +xvcVR0vKr5A-00662-00190146-00190225 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00663-00190226-00190481 24 say myself +xvcVR0vKr5A-00664-00190482-00190787 please not in the rooms can't where is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00665-00190788-00190973 it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00666-00190974-00191387 no where that's not good where R15 R15 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00667-00191388-00191609 oh yeah it has subscribes man it has one +xvcVR0vKr5A-00668-00191610-00191743 scratch +xvcVR0vKr5A-00669-00191744-00192190 one scrap okay nearby d23 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00670-00192191-00192551 nobody cares about one scrap +xvcVR0vKr5A-00671-00192552-00192869 oh okay I mean you can try to take that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00672-00192870-00193163 much damage +xvcVR0vKr5A-00673-00193164-00193343 as soon as it's early +xvcVR0vKr5A-00674-00193344-00193535 and you have to wait until the storm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00675-00193536-00193769 dies yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00676-00193770-00194447 oh there's a swarm in there yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00677-00194448-00194633 love happens for him being there you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00678-00194634-00194723 know what +xvcVR0vKr5A-00679-00194724-00194861 I'm gonna put the probe in there don't +xvcVR0vKr5A-00680-00194862-00195101 take damage from radiation right oh yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00681-00195102-00195359 yeah no they don't oh it was +xvcVR0vKr5A-00682-00195360-00195611 frick +xvcVR0vKr5A-00683-00195612-00195857 that is fine +xvcVR0vKr5A-00684-00195858-00196102 how is it fine crap I haven't gone there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00685-00196103-00196475 fine oh that's [__] up oh God fine guys +xvcVR0vKr5A-00686-00196476-00196714 that might not be fine +xvcVR0vKr5A-00687-00196715-00196943 okay I'm good I'm good apparently the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00688-00196944-00197195 freaking swarm hasn't gone to space yet +xvcVR0vKr5A-00689-00197196-00197614 hmm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00690-00197615-00197921 wait there's a scrap in room 14 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00691-00197922-00198233 . +xvcVR0vKr5A-00692-00198234-00198478 oh God I haven't gone there no I'm gonna +xvcVR0vKr5A-00693-00198479-00198635 lose this access +xvcVR0vKr5A-00694-00198636-00198928 yeah you're gonna lose it [__] um I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00695-00198929-00199157 don't think I'm going there guys +xvcVR0vKr5A-00696-00199158-00199399 I have no Transporters either uh-oh oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00697-00199400-00200213 no I'm an oh oh oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00698-00200214-00200321 God +xvcVR0vKr5A-00699-00200322-00200716 room 12 is a goner room 12 is a gunner I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00700-00200717-00200938 can't go at room 40 in room 11 in room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00701-00200939-00201293 four just yet I'm just oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00702-00201294-00201743 yeah that's not good +xvcVR0vKr5A-00703-00201744-00201976 welcome to dusters everyone hope you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00704-00201977-00202187 enjoyed your stay um so we we're aware +xvcVR0vKr5A-00705-00202188-00202366 that we did have something that's not +xvcVR0vKr5A-00706-00202367-00202597 true +xvcVR0vKr5A-00707-00202598-00202864 did we have Sentry or did we have leaper +xvcVR0vKr5A-00708-00202865-00203099 have you ever check on four +xvcVR0vKr5A-00709-00203100-00203357 I haven't yet me too +xvcVR0vKr5A-00710-00203358-00204538 that's the issue [__] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00711-00204539-00204671 um not I know that there's something at +xvcVR0vKr5A-00712-00204672-00205055 R15 it might be a century +xvcVR0vKr5A-00713-00205056-00205277 I'm gonna you know what when Earth if I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00714-00205278-00205444 get a if I get a thing back I'm actually +xvcVR0vKr5A-00715-00205446-00205523 gonna +xvcVR0vKr5A-00716-00205523-00205721 drop another probe throw it in room 15 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00717-00205721-00205912 and if it gets attacked then we know +xvcVR0vKr5A-00718-00205913-00206092 that we have uh do we know that we have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00719-00206094-00206279 wait so doesn't get attacked then we +xvcVR0vKr5A-00720-00206280-00206519 know that we have Century so uh room 40 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00721-00206519-00206794 is room 14 having another Power Inlet or +xvcVR0vKr5A-00722-00206796-00207005 is it not having one no does not have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00723-00207006-00207166 another power and then it has one scrap +xvcVR0vKr5A-00724-00207167-00207316 oh God +xvcVR0vKr5A-00725-00207317-00208553 foreign +xvcVR0vKr5A-00726-00208554-00208864 no no if you want you can continue +xvcVR0vKr5A-00727-00208865-00209110 because you have the pry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00728-00209111-00209429 yes so you can open door 20. I can try +xvcVR0vKr5A-00729-00209430-00209746 opening freaking deteriorate I know and +xvcVR0vKr5A-00730-00209748-00210019 you can mine and open Darkness +xvcVR0vKr5A-00731-00210019-00210263 I'm below +xvcVR0vKr5A-00732-00210264-00210532 that room that just got vacuumed also +xvcVR0vKr5A-00733-00210533-00210821 room 15 was radiated I'm 13 is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00734-00210821-00210917 transporter +xvcVR0vKr5A-00735-00210917-00211121 or R3 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00736-00211121-00211463 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00737-00211464-00211679 I can try to find that swarm though just +xvcVR0vKr5A-00738-00211680-00211882 for the loss of it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00739-00211883-00212123 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00740-00212123-00212291 because I don't want r13 to get uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00741-00212292-00212465 radiated we're going to do this VR 16 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00742-00212466-00212734 instead of course A1 failure why +xvcVR0vKr5A-00743-00212735-00212961 wouldn't it be A1 failure +xvcVR0vKr5A-00744-00212962-00213305 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00745-00213306-00213631 century +xvcVR0vKr5A-00746-00213632-00213929 we have set +xvcVR0vKr5A-00747-00213930-00214175 no we have leaper oh okay we have leaper +xvcVR0vKr5A-00748-00214176-00214558 we have leaper okay thanks thank you no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00749-00214559-00214921 Century leave for and swarm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00750-00214921-00215392 thank you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00751-00215394-00215710 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00752-00215711-00215987 um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00753-00215988-00216281 sorry so room 14 has a scrap what does +xvcVR0vKr5A-00754-00216282-00217013 Room 11 have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00755-00217014-00217282 Room 11 oh I haven't been in there +xvcVR0vKr5A-00756-00217283-00217548 because I'd have to go and pride R20 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00757-00217550-00217877 right wait so you're you're at the top +xvcVR0vKr5A-00758-00217878-00218284 layer of no no no no I am off the ship +xvcVR0vKr5A-00759-00218285-00218555 oh okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00760-00218556-00218801 nice I can go check roommate +xvcVR0vKr5A-00761-00218802-00219065 but that's it roommate has nothing in it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00762-00219066-00219346 yeah I don't bother Jesus oh well it was +xvcVR0vKr5A-00763-00219348-00219634 worth a shot it's got two scrap what are +xvcVR0vKr5A-00764-00219635-00220013 you talking about +xvcVR0vKr5A-00765-00220014-00220525 I mean it's still every person I'm like +xvcVR0vKr5A-00766-00220526-00220792 no I don't honestly I forgot oopsie +xvcVR0vKr5A-00767-00220794-00221255 Dipsy oh my God oh my goodness I'm 17. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00768-00221256-00221501 sorry I'm still I'm still really at last +xvcVR0vKr5A-00769-00221502-00221723 forwards on losing +xvcVR0vKr5A-00770-00221723-00222060 those top layers +xvcVR0vKr5A-00771-00222061-00222382 oh my God all right wait wait wait sorry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00772-00222383-00222629 sorry I I might have forgotten what you +xvcVR0vKr5A-00773-00222630-00222869 mentioned what does swim 11 headache +xvcVR0vKr5A-00774-00222869-00223091 again I know from 40 has a scrap room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00775-00223092-00223396 for us to leave 11 has a farm Room 11 is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00776-00223398-00223673 a swamp no I'm going there then screw +xvcVR0vKr5A-00777-00223673-00224158 that Rim you could if you get +xvcVR0vKr5A-00778-00224159-00224291 in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00779-00224292-00224839 wait um what +xvcVR0vKr5A-00780-00224840-00225034 room 40 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00781-00225035-00225184 that's the body there's a leap in room +xvcVR0vKr5A-00782-00225185-00225425 14 and room four that's the pie I didn't +xvcVR0vKr5A-00783-00225426-00225505 mention +xvcVR0vKr5A-00784-00225506-00225808 wow okay oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00785-00225809-00226055 oh sorry about that uh there's one +xvcVR0vKr5A-00786-00226056-00226421 Scrappy for an r14. I moved the speed +xvcVR0vKr5A-00787-00226421-00226637 print R15 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00788-00226638-00226979 did you almost went in there no no no I +xvcVR0vKr5A-00789-00226980-00227171 was assessing whether it's worded on +xvcVR0vKr5A-00790-00227171-00227308 exploring those rooms because I'm really +xvcVR0vKr5A-00791-00227309-00227525 cut off from those +xvcVR0vKr5A-00792-00227526-00228115 at all +xvcVR0vKr5A-00793-00228116-00228329 yeah yeah I don't think I can do +xvcVR0vKr5A-00794-00228330-00228551 anything else well I almost got 200 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00795-00228552-00228719 device though +xvcVR0vKr5A-00796-00228719-00228910 um because I thought the Swarm was +xvcVR0vKr5A-00797-00228911-00229331 killed at 2015. so that's fun no there's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00798-00229332-00229558 some there's a Libra at 14 there's a +xvcVR0vKr5A-00799-00229559-00229744 lead for an R4 and there's a swarm in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00800-00229746-00230117 R11 okay nope that's game for me that's +xvcVR0vKr5A-00801-00230117-00230506 a game for me yeah uh A1 failing is kind +xvcVR0vKr5A-00802-00230507-00230729 of not fantastic that's not the +xvcVR0vKr5A-00803-00230730-00231013 regulation on getting +xvcVR0vKr5A-00804-00231014-00231365 I want to say 12 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00805-00231366-00231846 yeah GG oh 10. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00806-00231848-00232384 hold on where did you miss that again +xvcVR0vKr5A-00807-00232385-00232631 uh the one scrap in R15 +xvcVR0vKr5A-00808-00232632-00232882 what's crap F-150 okay I gotta I have to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00809-00232883-00233219 oh yeah okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00810-00233219-00233446 um I did suggest you to try to take it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00811-00233448-00233681 nearby t23 but yeah I did mention that +xvcVR0vKr5A-00812-00233682-00233939 just one time if I go quickly so +xvcVR0vKr5A-00813-00233940-00234155 um oh well yeah I decided to not do it +xvcVR0vKr5A-00814-00234156-00234346 okay um okay and that's how I found out +xvcVR0vKr5A-00815-00234348-00234539 that there was a there was a leafer in +xvcVR0vKr5A-00816-00234540-00234839 that room up there oh my goodness yeah +xvcVR0vKr5A-00817-00234840-00235073 man if you don't go up if you don't go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00818-00235073-00235241 up to deal with the swim so you're not +xvcVR0vKr5A-00819-00235242-00235403 gonna be able to do it because a word +xvcVR0vKr5A-00820-00235404-00235732 it's gonna fail yeah and you have to pry +xvcVR0vKr5A-00821-00235733-00235991 to a stores and find one of the power +xvcVR0vKr5A-00822-00235992-00236242 inlets where's that anyway is that four +xvcVR0vKr5A-00823-00236244-00236405 room eleven +xvcVR0vKr5A-00824-00236406-00236675 it might be in room 11. +xvcVR0vKr5A-00825-00236676-00236927 okay so you're not going to the store to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00826-00236928-00237131 a service too okay gotcha I should have +xvcVR0vKr5A-00827-00237132-00237292 uh I should have used that room to vent +xvcVR0vKr5A-00828-00237294-00237551 things but I didn't yeah it's such a big +xvcVR0vKr5A-00829-00237552-00237731 video I mean we had mine so whatever +xvcVR0vKr5A-00830-00237732-00237877 okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00831-00237878-00238084 yeah I think at least you managed to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00832-00238085-00238294 explore more room Sammy so that's good +xvcVR0vKr5A-00833-00238296-00238444 on you actually +xvcVR0vKr5A-00834-00238446-00238619 yeah I just about missed two scraps +xvcVR0vKr5A-00835-00238619-00238769 because you told me that R8 had nothing +xvcVR0vKr5A-00836-00238769-00238973 in it I was like I'll just leave without +xvcVR0vKr5A-00837-00238973-00239453 doing it then good thing I checked +xvcVR0vKr5A-00838-00239454-00239723 two scrap and a remote powered uh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00839-00239723-00239873 remember and use my power is good +xvcVR0vKr5A-00840-00239873-00240053 because uh yes it was actually rather +xvcVR0vKr5A-00841-00240054-00240341 helpful today oh yeah let's go +xvcVR0vKr5A-00842-00240342-00240503 I'm sorry if I look good though I'm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00843-00240504-00240965 losing gathered Road good God that's so +xvcVR0vKr5A-00844-00240966-00241296 much time Richmond +xvcVR0vKr5A-00845-00241298-00241655 as well yeah oh my freaking God +xvcVR0vKr5A-00846-00241656-00241955 everything liquid I wonder if they got +xvcVR0vKr5A-00847-00241956-00242192 got by um +xvcVR0vKr5A-00848-00242194-00242551 [Music] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00849-00242552-00242837 so either they got swarged or they +xvcVR0vKr5A-00850-00242838-00243142 vented it by accident yeah or like +xvcVR0vKr5A-00851-00243144-00243455 getting caught up by that A1 airlock no +xvcVR0vKr5A-00852-00243456-00243605 they wouldn't get swarmed because they +xvcVR0vKr5A-00853-00243606-00243934 have speed on drone one I mean they +xvcVR0vKr5A-00854-00243935-00244169 can't be too late as well on if they +xvcVR0vKr5A-00855-00244169-00244373 don't have nothing to drone by accident +xvcVR0vKr5A-00856-00244373-00244601 I think I think they vented a drone okay +xvcVR0vKr5A-00857-00244602-00244781 we'll figure it out that's what I'm +xvcVR0vKr5A-00858-00244782-00245015 that's with my AI powered analysis is +xvcVR0vKr5A-00859-00245016-00245206 telling me is that they did Venture on +xvcVR0vKr5A-00860-00245207-00245617 by accident oh well good game +xvcVR0vKr5A-00861-00245617-00245932 yeah today was could have been worse but +xvcVR0vKr5A-00862-00245933-00246215 uh it wasn't terrible yeah oh man +xvcVR0vKr5A-00863-00246216-00246563 looking forward for fatals fatal stuff +xvcVR0vKr5A-00864-00246564-00246910 at the next weekend probably +xvcVR0vKr5A-00865-00246911-00247241 oh my God all right let's take that oh +xvcVR0vKr5A-00866-00247242-00247391 no I'm hoping that when you get a door +xvcVR0vKr5A-00867-00247392-00247691 Peak a door it fails and there's a leap +xvcVR0vKr5A-00868-00247692-00247760 on the other side +xvcVR0vKr5A-00869-00247761-00248196 [Laughter] +xvcVR0vKr5A-00870-00248198-00248458 I'm hoping that the next time you go to +xvcVR0vKr5A-00871-00248459-00248705 Door Pika door and you're in the doorway 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salt and +xBGixNaPUoE-00030-00007484-00007666 juniper and left to ferment in wooden +xBGixNaPUoE-00031-00007667-00007930 barrels sauerkraut can be served with +xBGixNaPUoE-00032-00007931-00008238 poultry pork sausage or even fish +xBGixNaPUoE-00033-00008239-00008449 traditionally it is served with pork +xBGixNaPUoE-00034-00008450-00008710 strasbourg sausage or frankfurters bacon +xBGixNaPUoE-00035-00008711-00008932 smoked pork or smoked morto or mud +xBGixNaPUoE-00036-00008933-00009169 billiard sausages or a selection of pork +xBGixNaPUoE-00037-00009170-00009445 products served alongside are often +xBGixNaPUoE-00038-00009446-00009732 roasted or steamed potatoes or dumplings +xBGixNaPUoE-00039-00009733-00009994 Alsace is also well known for its foie +xBGixNaPUoE-00040-00009995-00010210 gras made in the region since the 17th +xBGixNaPUoE-00041-00010211-00010305 century +xBGixNaPUoE-00042-00010306-00010546 additionally Alsace is known for its +xBGixNaPUoE-00043-00010547-00010791 fruit juices mineral waters and wines +xBGixNaPUoE-00044-00010792-00011080 the region's version of cocoa vanda's +xBGixNaPUoE-00045-00011081-00011641 cocoa Riesling +xBGixNaPUoE-00046-00011642-00012135 topic wine +xBGixNaPUoE-00047-00012136-00012387 Alsace is an important wine producing +xBGixNaPUoE-00048-00012388-00012651 regime Alsace wines are mostly white and +xBGixNaPUoE-00049-00012652-00012866 display a strong Germanic influence +xBGixNaPUoE-00050-00012868-00013116 Alsace produces some of the world's most +xBGixNaPUoE-00051-00013116-00013326 noted dry Rieslings and is the only +xBGixNaPUoE-00052-00013327-00013530 region in France to produce mostly +xBGixNaPUoE-00053-00013531-00013779 verita wines typically from grapes also +xBGixNaPUoE-00054-00013780-00014082 used in Germany the most notable example +xBGixNaPUoE-00055-00014083-00014653 is Gewurztraminer +xBGixNaPUoE-00056-00014654-00015143 topic beer +xBGixNaPUoE-00057-00015144-00015416 Alsace is also the main beer producing 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live +xD1FwqeVshu-00008-00002568-00002692 from our studios here at the University +xD1FwqeVshu-00009-00002693-00002939 of California Irvine's Beale a blind +xD1FwqeVshu-00010-00002940-00003160 Innovation Center and today well I'll +xD1FwqeVshu-00011-00003161-00003317 let Reuben introduce from somebody I +xD1FwqeVshu-00012-00003318-00003497 think he's not known for a year or two +xD1FwqeVshu-00013-00003497-00003622 here +xD1FwqeVshu-00014-00003623-00003827 thanks Paul appreciate it and welcome +xD1FwqeVshu-00015-00003828-00004103 everybody to our podcast where because +xD1FwqeVshu-00016-00004104-00004277 our community is your community and we +xD1FwqeVshu-00017-00004278-00004547 have a special guest today a long time +xD1FwqeVshu-00018-00004548-00004811 friend Mr Bobby McDonald or we more +xD1FwqeVshu-00019-00004812-00005206 effectually know him as Bobby Mack so +xD1FwqeVshu-00020-00005207-00005441 um Bobby is the president of the Black +xD1FwqeVshu-00021-00005442-00005633 Chamber of Commerce of Orange County +xD1FwqeVshu-00022-00005634-00005854 he's one of the leading advocates for +xD1FwqeVshu-00023-00005855-00006004 veterans here in Orange County for +xD1FwqeVshu-00024-00006005-00006191 decades and um +xD1FwqeVshu-00025-00006192-00006413 he co-chairs with me actually the +xD1FwqeVshu-00026-00006414-00006670 diverse Business Leaders Coalition of +xD1FwqeVshu-00027-00006672-00006923 Orange County and um Bobby we look +xD1FwqeVshu-00028-00006923-00007151 forward to a great discussion but we +xD1FwqeVshu-00029-00007152-00007355 love to start out our podcast always +xD1FwqeVshu-00030-00007356-00007570 with just you telling our audience a +xD1FwqeVshu-00031-00007572-00007805 little bit about yourself I mean like +xD1FwqeVshu-00032-00007806-00008045 you know where you were born who you +xD1FwqeVshu-00033-00008045-00008183 know just give us a little background +xD1FwqeVshu-00034-00008184-00008446 about who Bobby Mack is you think the +xD1FwqeVshu-00035-00008447-00008578 audience really cares about when I'm +xD1FwqeVshu-00036-00008579-00008795 just kidding man thank you it's an honor +xD1FwqeVshu-00037-00008796-00009041 to be here thank you you know and what I +xD1FwqeVshu-00038-00009042-00009196 do want to say to the audience it's it's +xD1FwqeVshu-00039-00009197-00009413 an awesome feeling to to be here with +xD1FwqeVshu-00040-00009414-00009671 the in this fine studio with working +xD1FwqeVshu-00041-00009672-00009827 with the Orange County Hispanic chamber +xD1FwqeVshu-00042-00009828-00010253 we we go back a ways uh a long ways and +xD1FwqeVshu-00043-00010254-00010456 just just as a shout out to you and the +xD1FwqeVshu-00044-00010457-00010619 crew thank you for what you're doing and +xD1FwqeVshu-00045-00010620-00010810 how you're doing it and well we +xD1FwqeVshu-00046-00010811-00010924 appreciating we appreciate the +xD1FwqeVshu-00047-00010925-00011063 partnership we've had for many +xD1FwqeVshu-00048-00011064-00011206 detectives well that's that's what we +xD1FwqeVshu-00049-00011207-00011477 stand for the Black Chamber has been uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00050-00011478-00011705 is well on the 24th of February we'll be +xD1FwqeVshu-00051-00011706-00011878 39 years old that's right that's right +xD1FwqeVshu-00052-00011879-00012137 so I got to look forward to our 40th but +xD1FwqeVshu-00053-00012138-00012419 a little bit about me I'm an LA native +xD1FwqeVshu-00054-00012420-00012646 I was a +xD1FwqeVshu-00055-00012647-00012887 a member of the the wonderful crew that +xD1FwqeVshu-00056-00012888-00013043 I had to go through La Unified School +xD1FwqeVshu-00057-00013044-00013294 District so 993 School Gompers in +xD1FwqeVshu-00058-00013295-00013558 Washington and which I like to tell +xD1FwqeVshu-00059-00013559-00013708 people about Washington High first in +xD1FwqeVshu-00060-00013709-00013871 war first and peace and mass and +xD1FwqeVshu-00061-00013872-00014075 Southern league but a lot of good people +xD1FwqeVshu-00062-00014076-00014386 came out of the city and I'm glad that I +xD1FwqeVshu-00063-00014387-00014572 got to to get up out of the city and get +xD1FwqeVshu-00064-00014573-00014730 out here to Orange County +xD1FwqeVshu-00065-00014731-00014957 went to La Harbor College when I +xD1FwqeVshu-00066-00014958-00015221 graduated from high school then I +xD1FwqeVshu-00067-00015222-00015430 majored in dominoes in bid whist in the +xD1FwqeVshu-00068-00015431-00015641 Seahawks Center and the only one that +xD1FwqeVshu-00069-00015641-00015766 would take my grades was the United +xD1FwqeVshu-00070-00015768-00016103 States Navy so I I enlisted in the Navy +xD1FwqeVshu-00071-00016104-00016457 back in 1965 well to I'm not so sure if +xD1FwqeVshu-00072-00016458-00016571 I remember the date I think it was +xD1FwqeVshu-00073-00016572-00016865 September 20th 1965. okay I'm kidding I +xD1FwqeVshu-00074-00016866-00016975 remember +xD1FwqeVshu-00075-00016976-00017399 but it went went to Vietnam twice was in 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+xD1FwqeVshu-00103-00023844-00023927 was +xD1FwqeVshu-00104-00023928-00024172 and it still is today had there been a +xD1FwqeVshu-00105-00024173-00024353 back door at the Alamo all those guys +xD1FwqeVshu-00106-00024354-00024503 wouldn't have died they probably would +xD1FwqeVshu-00107-00024504-00024647 have figured out a way to get out sure +xD1FwqeVshu-00108-00024648-00024778 so you're always trying to put yourself +xD1FwqeVshu-00109-00024779-00025019 in a situation so you do have a back +xD1FwqeVshu-00110-00025020-00025163 door but you hope you don't need it +xD1FwqeVshu-00111-00025164-00025499 right and uh my back door was hey I'm in +xD1FwqeVshu-00112-00025500-00025684 the service already let's move forward +xD1FwqeVshu-00113-00025685-00025978 get your education and I did I wound up +xD1FwqeVshu-00114-00025979-00026189 graduating from La Harbor College and +xD1FwqeVshu-00115-00026189-00026339 transferring out here to Cal State +xD1FwqeVshu-00116-00026339-00026458 Fullerton +xD1FwqeVshu-00117-00026460-00026657 and I had my cake and I was eating it +xD1FwqeVshu-00118-00026658-00026914 too got a chance to kind of kick back +xD1FwqeVshu-00119-00026916-00027095 and play a little basketball and I was +xD1FwqeVshu-00120-00027095-00027305 on Coach White City Harbor College just +xD1FwqeVshu-00121-00027306-00027629 first championship team and um and then +xD1FwqeVshu-00122-00027630-00027779 uh like I said I got a chance to +xD1FwqeVshu-00123-00027780-00027917 transfer out here oh and I was the first +xD1FwqeVshu-00124-00027918-00028114 black student body president L.A Harbor +xD1FwqeVshu-00125-00028116-00028439 really yeah so I combined and I was the +xD1FwqeVshu-00126-00028439-00028558 only one on the team that was working +xD1FwqeVshu-00127-00028560-00028924 and had a car so I was um I was like +xD1FwqeVshu-00128-00028925-00029201 right now I'm staying pretty busy but it +xD1FwqeVshu-00129-00029202-00029417 was great to come out to Fullerton +xD1FwqeVshu-00130-00029418-00029674 um and like and as we said before we got +xD1FwqeVshu-00131-00029675-00029801 on air you know I've been out here since +xD1FwqeVshu-00132-00029802-00030089 August of 1970. so I've watched the +xD1FwqeVshu-00133-00030089-00030370 county grow and move and matriculate and +xD1FwqeVshu-00134-00030372-00030677 boy has it changed it has really changed +xD1FwqeVshu-00135-00030677-00030923 some things remain the same but it is +xD1FwqeVshu-00136-00030924-00031096 changed +xD1FwqeVshu-00137-00031097-00031402 um I um had an opportunity when I got +xD1FwqeVshu-00138-00031404-00031523 here and graduated from Cal State +xD1FwqeVshu-00139-00031524-00031823 Fullerton I found out that my skill sets +xD1FwqeVshu-00140-00031824-00032137 to play basketball were you know limited +xD1FwqeVshu-00141-00032138-00032495 and although I was good but I wasn't as +xD1FwqeVshu-00142-00032495-00032711 good as the rest of the guy so I got +xD1FwqeVshu-00143-00032712-00032939 more into the coaching area and I was +xD1FwqeVshu-00144-00032940-00033143 very very wonderful I got a chance to be +xD1FwqeVshu-00145-00033144-00033329 the JV coach for a while then when Bobby +xD1FwqeVshu-00146-00033330-00033587 died came out to be the coach at Cal +xD1FwqeVshu-00147-00033588-00033779 State Fullerton you know Cal State who +xD1FwqeVshu-00148-00033780-00033971 and Cal State Disneyland I was one of +xD1FwqeVshu-00149-00033972-00034109 the assistant coaches on that team oh +xD1FwqeVshu-00150-00034110-00034318 nice yeah so I got a chance to go to the +xD1FwqeVshu-00151-00034319-00034559 final league and I can well we had more +xD1FwqeVshu-00152-00034560-00034690 time I'll tell you about all those games +xD1FwqeVshu-00153-00034691-00034901 we beat with the University of San +xD1FwqeVshu-00154-00034902-00035171 Francisco and and and in New Mexico and +xD1FwqeVshu-00155-00035172-00035339 with Michael Cooper and those guys so +xD1FwqeVshu-00156-00035340-00035495 who was the best 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guys oh yeah I mean I'm I'm +xD1FwqeVshu-00171-00038952-00039107 really old school now because most +xD1FwqeVshu-00172-00039108-00039239 people wouldn't even know who those guys +xD1FwqeVshu-00173-00039240-00039473 were but uh they were pretty doggone +xD1FwqeVshu-00174-00039474-00039611 good guys at Arkansas I ended in the +xD1FwqeVshu-00175-00039612-00039965 pros too sure yeah but uh I decided +xD1FwqeVshu-00176-00039966-00040223 after uh I graduated from Fullerton in +xD1FwqeVshu-00177-00040224-00040505 75 because it took me a little while but +xD1FwqeVshu-00178-00040506-00040685 I had to work and get to school and go +xD1FwqeVshu-00179-00040686-00040918 to class and all that stuff and but I +xD1FwqeVshu-00180-00040919-00041015 did it +xD1FwqeVshu-00181-00041016-00041321 and uh I had going to I went to a +xD1FwqeVshu-00182-00041322-00041579 basketball clinic up in Oakland +xD1FwqeVshu-00183-00041580-00041759 and I got a chance to meet the gentleman 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when Uniroyal or +xD1FwqeVshu-00198-00045174-00045343 Firestone or west of them had a strike +xD1FwqeVshu-00199-00045344-00045539 it stopped all the shoes all the +xD1FwqeVshu-00200-00045540-00045767 Productions but then they started going +xD1FwqeVshu-00201-00045768-00045935 offshore Nike came along and they +xD1FwqeVshu-00202-00045936-00046199 started going offshore and and and then +xD1FwqeVshu-00203-00046200-00046468 but anyway I went to work for Adidas +xD1FwqeVshu-00204-00046469-00046667 after this guy I learned learned a +xD1FwqeVshu-00205-00046668-00046780 little something from him did a little +xD1FwqeVshu-00206-00046781-00047021 report for from my classes gave it to +xD1FwqeVshu-00207-00047022-00047224 him and and told him reason why some of +xD1FwqeVshu-00208-00047225-00047393 those shoes weren't sure of being sold +xD1FwqeVshu-00209-00047394-00047711 in Riverside and Orange County and L.A +xD1FwqeVshu-00210-00047712-00047945 and so I wound up getting a job 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then from there +xD1FwqeVshu-00225-00051402-00051676 um uh needless to say things things +xD1FwqeVshu-00226-00051677-00051875 happen Stride Right came along and +xD1FwqeVshu-00227-00051876-00052108 bought the shoe division from Uniroyal +xD1FwqeVshu-00228-00052109-00052420 and like any other sales person they +xD1FwqeVshu-00229-00052421-00052709 dump you all sure however I was very +xD1FwqeVshu-00230-00052710-00052930 fortunate because when I was a manager +xD1FwqeVshu-00231-00052932-00053194 excuse me a trainee in trading the +xD1FwqeVshu-00232-00053195-00053363 manager in training's name was Dominic +xD1FwqeVshu-00233-00053364-00053621 ferlado so when he took over as +xD1FwqeVshu-00234-00053622-00053903 president of Stride Rite guess who came +xD1FwqeVshu-00235-00053904-00054125 back to work for kids I went I was +xD1FwqeVshu-00236-00054126-00054292 working for them twice now +xD1FwqeVshu-00237-00054294-00054425 but anyway +xD1FwqeVshu-00238-00054426-00054707 um I was very fortunate in 1980 +xD1FwqeVshu-00239-00054708-00055097 to uh get selected to to to go work for +xD1FwqeVshu-00240-00055098-00055438 another shoe company which was Adidas +xD1FwqeVshu-00241-00055439-00055715 so uh I'm your your first black sales +xD1FwqeVshu-00242-00055716-00055876 rep ever worked for Adidas in the United +xD1FwqeVshu-00243-00055877-00056213 States really 1980 yeah what a +xD1FwqeVshu-00244-00056214-00056507 historical piece that was the +xD1FwqeVshu-00245-00056508-00056791 this the when you see the shoes +xD1FwqeVshu-00246-00056791-00057029 they have the little three what the +xD1FwqeVshu-00247-00057029-00057226 little the little logo you have on your +xD1FwqeVshu-00248-00057227-00057538 chest looks like a marijuana leaf but it +xD1FwqeVshu-00249-00057539-00057773 ain't uh if you take that little leaf +xD1FwqeVshu-00250-00057774-00058000 and you put it together it makes three +xD1FwqeVshu-00251-00058001-00058216 stripes Encompass the world +xD1FwqeVshu-00252-00058217-00058397 because the three Adidas did accomplish +xD1FwqeVshu-00253-00058398-00058504 the world +xD1FwqeVshu-00254-00058505-00058841 um and he uh his name was Adidas he got +xD1FwqeVshu-00255-00058841-00059080 in trouble with Hitler because he made +xD1FwqeVshu-00256-00059082-00059254 the special shoes for somebody named +xD1FwqeVshu-00257-00059255-00059579 Jesse Owens so when Jesse so when Jesse +xD1FwqeVshu-00258-00059579-00059826 Owens won the gold medal in 36 in Berlin +xD1FwqeVshu-00259-00059827-00060330 boom that was Hitler got mad and made +xD1FwqeVshu-00260-00060332-00060671 Adolf dassler uh start making boots for +xD1FwqeVshu-00261-00060672-00060941 them for the Army so I need to say hi +xD1FwqeVshu-00262-00060941-00061103 dossler got upset and changed his name +xD1FwqeVshu-00263-00061104-00061319 to Ali dasler so that's how you get 80. +xD1FwqeVshu-00264-00061320-00061523 Adidas Adidas but I know in your mind +xD1FwqeVshu-00265-00061524-00061666 you're thinking it's all day I dream +xD1FwqeVshu-00266-00061667-00062038 about sports okay well it's funny you +xD1FwqeVshu-00267-00062039-00062188 mentioned you mentioned Adidas I bought +xD1FwqeVshu-00268-00062189-00062411 my first pair of Adidas when I was a kid +xD1FwqeVshu-00269-00062412-00062735 they were 18 and my mom was so mad at me +xD1FwqeVshu-00270-00062736-00062987 because for 18 dollars back then I'm +xD1FwqeVshu-00271-00062988-00063250 aging myself uh you could have bought +xD1FwqeVshu-00272-00063251-00063449 three pairs of PF Flyers or something +xD1FwqeVshu-00273-00063450-00063779 for 18 for Adidas it was just a lot of +xD1FwqeVshu-00274-00063779-00064019 money back there yeah but but but the +xD1FwqeVshu-00275-00064020-00064216 the fun part about being with Adidas is +xD1FwqeVshu-00276-00064217-00064421 watching their worldwide how they did +xD1FwqeVshu-00277-00064422-00064630 things and how they made the factory and +xD1FwqeVshu-00278-00064632-00064804 how they did things and they and they 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chance to work with the deed as +xD1FwqeVshu-00293-00068130-00068411 to um for the Olympics +xD1FwqeVshu-00294-00068412-00068687 and then we and and one of the things we +xD1FwqeVshu-00295-00068688-00068806 did when we started the Orange County +xD1FwqeVshu-00296-00068807-00069023 Sports Hall of Fame here was I mean +xD1FwqeVshu-00297-00069024-00069335 Larry myricks and let's see Edwin Moses +xD1FwqeVshu-00298-00069336-00069575 all those kinds of guys Jurgen lands all +xD1FwqeVshu-00299-00069576-00069779 those kinds of guys were all uh you know +xD1FwqeVshu-00300-00069780-00070067 in the Olympics what was really neat +xD1FwqeVshu-00301-00070068-00070294 during the Olympics in 84 Willie nulls +xD1FwqeVshu-00302-00070295-00070426 and +xD1FwqeVshu-00303-00070427-00070523 um +xD1FwqeVshu-00304-00070524-00070799 and a group of his friends Rosie Greer +xD1FwqeVshu-00305-00070800-00071123 they had a shop and so during the +xD1FwqeVshu-00306-00071124-00071387 Olympics Adidas comes in and they set up +xD1FwqeVshu-00307-00071388-00071597 a cobbler shop right there in the +xD1FwqeVshu-00308-00071598-00071987 community and so if like Marcus uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00309-00071988-00072209 Johnson had a different needs of special +xD1FwqeVshu-00310-00072210-00072353 shoes they had to make so all those guys +xD1FwqeVshu-00311-00072354-00072550 who had their shoes made right there I +xD1FwqeVshu-00312-00072551-00072893 mean that's how detailed they are +xD1FwqeVshu-00313-00072894-00073061 um and it was work but unfortunately +xD1FwqeVshu-00314-00073062-00073306 when the Olympics was over uh the the +xD1FwqeVshu-00315-00073307-00073559 Adidas company uh bought out all the +xD1FwqeVshu-00316-00073560-00073709 little Distributors that we were part of +xD1FwqeVshu-00317-00073710-00073991 and so there we go again so I got a +xD1FwqeVshu-00318-00073992-00074171 chance then to to start working on my +xD1FwqeVshu-00319-00074172-00074315 own with some clothing and stuff but +xD1FwqeVshu-00320-00074316-00074729 eventually uh I decided you know I +xD1FwqeVshu-00321-00074730-00074932 wanted to do something different +xD1FwqeVshu-00322-00074933-00075191 so in the 1990s +xD1FwqeVshu-00323-00075192-00075449 level of early 1990s signed there was a +xD1FwqeVshu-00324-00075450-00075797 the the black Business Association that +xD1FwqeVshu-00325-00075798-00076025 was here uh I got involved with them +xD1FwqeVshu-00326-00076026-00076253 because I wanted to help out in the +xD1FwqeVshu-00327-00076254-00076493 community sure a little did I know that +xD1FwqeVshu-00328-00076494-00076793 two years later uh that Milton Gordon Dr +xD1FwqeVshu-00329-00076794-00076973 Gordon would come in and he wanted to do +xD1FwqeVshu-00330-00076974-00077182 more for African-American male students +xD1FwqeVshu-00331-00077183-00077393 at Cal State Fullerton so that got my +xD1FwqeVshu-00332-00077394-00077711 involvement with the chamber and I +xD1FwqeVshu-00333-00077712-00077831 helped put 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I couldn't ask for anything better yeah +xD1FwqeVshu-00348-00081157-00081553 and the things we've done my involvement +xD1FwqeVshu-00349-00081554-00081887 and our involvement with the community +xD1FwqeVshu-00350-00081888-00082175 us you and I getting together back with +xD1FwqeVshu-00351-00082176-00082332 the Orange County president's Council +xD1FwqeVshu-00352-00082333-00082594 making sure that we really had to +xD1FwqeVshu-00353-00082595-00082919 utilize that diverse Community we had to +xD1FwqeVshu-00354-00082920-00083135 try to make it positive at impact and +xD1FwqeVshu-00355-00083136-00083350 difference and wow I mean when we stop +xD1FwqeVshu-00356-00083351-00083573 and look at what we've done and I say we +xD1FwqeVshu-00357-00083574-00083723 done +xD1FwqeVshu-00358-00083724-00084053 um it's it's been wonderful we you know +xD1FwqeVshu-00359-00084054-00084238 from a from a legislative standpoint +xD1FwqeVshu-00360-00084239-00084521 from an advocacy standpoint from a +xD1FwqeVshu-00361-00084522-00084785 community standpoint for us really +xD1FwqeVshu-00362-00084786-00085037 taking time out and to make sure that we +xD1FwqeVshu-00363-00085038-00085426 respect honor and participate +xD1FwqeVshu-00364-00085427-00085738 in Black History Month Hispanic Heritage +xD1FwqeVshu-00365-00085739-00085967 Month women's History Month Native +xD1FwqeVshu-00366-00085968-00086206 American History Month boom and and +xD1FwqeVshu-00367-00086207-00086453 knowing the time levels in fact that was +xD1FwqeVshu-00368-00086454-00086650 part of what we did when we first first +xD1FwqeVshu-00369-00086651-00086806 started that Orange County president's +xD1FwqeVshu-00370-00086807-00086999 Council was to make sure that we had a +xD1FwqeVshu-00371-00087000-00087203 meeting and a calendar so we wouldn't +xD1FwqeVshu-00372-00087204-00087425 step on each other's toes but we also +xD1FwqeVshu-00373-00087426-00087611 plan to be there to help support each +xD1FwqeVshu-00374-00087612-00087785 other that's right that's right well +xD1FwqeVshu-00375-00087786-00087923 speaking of calendars what are some of +xD1FwqeVshu-00376-00087924-00088103 the things you have going on this year I +xD1FwqeVshu-00377-00088104-00088343 know you have uh the anniversary on what +xD1FwqeVshu-00378-00088344-00088541 the 24th of this month right you're +xD1FwqeVshu-00379-00088542-00088679 doing this well it'd be the Future +xD1FwqeVshu-00380-00088680-00088912 Leaders luncheon and we started that uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00381-00088913-00089285 well we started back in 19 2019 maybe it +xD1FwqeVshu-00382-00089286-00089555 may be 20. and we started that because I +xD1FwqeVshu-00383-00089556-00089771 was Finding and I was watching the +xD1FwqeVshu-00384-00089772-00090006 change of the Dynamics in the community +xD1FwqeVshu-00385-00090007-00090347 and it wasn't that much people didn't +xD1FwqeVshu-00386-00090348-00090521 know what was going on in the community +xD1FwqeVshu-00387-00090522-00090647 okay +xD1FwqeVshu-00388-00090648-00090893 um the chamber did but that's good to +xD1FwqeVshu-00389-00090894-00091043 know but Bobby how you gonna get that +xD1FwqeVshu-00390-00091044-00091312 out to the rest of the world so at that +xD1FwqeVshu-00391-00091313-00091823 point in time we had maybe three or four +xD1FwqeVshu-00392-00091824-00092237 individuals that had become Mayors or +xD1FwqeVshu-00393-00092238-00092471 city council people you know Mama mayor +xD1FwqeVshu-00394-00092472-00092855 over over at Lake Forest was your first +xD1FwqeVshu-00395-00092856-00093041 black city councilwoman and the first +xD1FwqeVshu-00396-00093042-00093365 black uh mayor in Orange County and that +xD1FwqeVshu-00397-00093366-00093682 in part because of Todd Spitzer Todd +xD1FwqeVshu-00398-00093683-00093856 Spitzer was there I mean I'm in the +xD1FwqeVshu-00399-00093857-00094025 audience and Todd Spencer brought that +xD1FwqeVshu-00400-00094026-00094103 home +xD1FwqeVshu-00401-00094104-00094385 uh and and I'm gonna go too deeper into +xD1FwqeVshu-00402-00094386-00094565 it but he did and that was awesome +xD1FwqeVshu-00403-00094566-00094762 because I'm in a room +xD1FwqeVshu-00404-00094763-00095009 and then Karen Robinson became the not +xD1FwqeVshu-00405-00095010-00095212 only the second but she was the first +xD1FwqeVshu-00406-00095213-00095459 black mayor and mayor uh and councilman +xD1FwqeVshu-00407-00095460-00095662 and the City of Costa amazing and then +xD1FwqeVshu-00408-00095663-00095825 she became the first woman black judge +xD1FwqeVshu-00409-00095826-00096091 in Orange County those kinds of things +xD1FwqeVshu-00410-00096092-00096341 that most people would never know about +xD1FwqeVshu-00411-00096342-00096581 from a business perspective one of the +xD1FwqeVshu-00412-00096582-00096767 highlights for me was at one point in +xD1FwqeVshu-00413-00096768-00096979 time the top four +xD1FwqeVshu-00414-00096980-00097318 Employers in Orange County +xD1FwqeVshu-00415-00097319-00097511 who are all headed by African-American +xD1FwqeVshu-00416-00097512-00097643 males black men +xD1FwqeVshu-00417-00097644-00097876 okay you had Michael Drake here at UCR +xD1FwqeVshu-00418-00097877-00098062 that's right the kid you had president +xD1FwqeVshu-00419-00098063-00098356 Gordon over at um Cal State Fullerton +xD1FwqeVshu-00420-00098357-00098788 you had uh uh was it uh Greg Weir over +xD1FwqeVshu-00421-00098789-00099268 at uh ups and then drumroll Ed Greer and +xD1FwqeVshu-00422-00099269-00099467 Disneyland yeah that's right I mean +xD1FwqeVshu-00423-00099468-00099718 those kinds of things that it's not that +xD1FwqeVshu-00424-00099719-00099850 people take it for granted they didn't +xD1FwqeVshu-00425-00099851-00100223 know okay uh coming up this month uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00426-00100224-00100582 it's even better because now I I I found +xD1FwqeVshu-00427-00100583-00100811 a couple of things that I didn't know uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00428-00100812-00101135 we have two black female +xD1FwqeVshu-00429-00101136-00101417 uh city council members on Los Alamitos +xD1FwqeVshu-00430-00101418-00101806 Ms Dolby and Miss uh Trish Murphy mrby +xD1FwqeVshu-00431-00101807-00102137 okay okay uh you know most people would +xD1FwqeVshu-00432-00102138-00102274 never know that we've got six black +xD1FwqeVshu-00433-00102275-00102527 judges and one judge just got appointed +xD1FwqeVshu-00434-00102528-00102832 to be on the Central District all right +xD1FwqeVshu-00435-00102833-00102994 and didn't you go to some place called +xD1FwqeVshu-00436-00102995-00103282 UCLA I did okay well just so happens +xD1FwqeVshu-00437-00103283-00103673 that judge is uh Fred Slaughter Jr right +xD1FwqeVshu-00438-00103674-00103930 okay and Fred Slaughter senior was on +xD1FwqeVshu-00439-00103931-00104099 John wooden's first championship team +xD1FwqeVshu-00440-00104100-00104518 with UCLA 1964. so that kind of the +xD1FwqeVshu-00441-00104519-00104765 small stuff you can say it it has and +xD1FwqeVshu-00442-00104766-00104921 we're real good for in fact every time +xD1FwqeVshu-00443-00104922-00105077 we get together I always tell him about +xD1FwqeVshu-00444-00105078-00105275 his dad because his dad was also one of +xD1FwqeVshu-00445-00105276-00105569 the first black agents in in sports okay +xD1FwqeVshu-00446-00105570-00105808 yeah a lawyer and playing by today but +xD1FwqeVshu-00447-00105809-00105971 anyway it's those kinds of things and +xD1FwqeVshu-00448-00105972-00106343 connecting the dots but um so but anyway +xD1FwqeVshu-00449-00106344-00106583 this this on the Future Leaders luncheon +xD1FwqeVshu-00450-00106583-00106769 it gives us an opportunity to get to +xD1FwqeVshu-00451-00106770-00107051 community uh have a lunch not a banquet +xD1FwqeVshu-00452-00107052-00107297 a lunch and highlight a few individuals +xD1FwqeVshu-00453-00107298-00107560 and and and and do something different +xD1FwqeVshu-00454-00107561-00107789 to keep people in Loop what we're going +xD1FwqeVshu-00455-00107790-00107945 to do this year I mean when it comes +xD1FwqeVshu-00456-00107946-00108239 we'll be able to get three books the +xD1FwqeVshu-00457-00108240-00108449 first book will be shaping Orange County +xD1FwqeVshu-00458-00108450-00108719 by Stan Offerly he did a real big great +xD1FwqeVshu-00459-00108720-00108904 job of highlighting all the things from +xD1FwqeVshu-00460-00108905-00109151 Orange County since its Inception okay +xD1FwqeVshu-00461-00109152-00109373 uh the second would be +xD1FwqeVshu-00462-00109374-00109589 um mommy's mayor mommy's mayor from +xD1FwqeVshu-00463-00109590-00109810 Leticia Clark oh yeah and then the third +xD1FwqeVshu-00464-00109811-00109997 one is going to be the Constitution of +xD1FwqeVshu-00465-00109998-00110116 the United States +xD1FwqeVshu-00466-00110117-00110308 because I'm not so sure what but +xD1FwqeVshu-00467-00110309-00110519 school's not teaching uh Civics +xD1FwqeVshu-00468-00110520-00110878 hopefully we can go back to normal we +xD1FwqeVshu-00469-00110879-00110999 should all be carrying a pocket +xD1FwqeVshu-00470-00111000-00111269 Constitution I agree with you yeah yeah +xD1FwqeVshu-00471-00111270-00111557 but um that's one of the things here and +xD1FwqeVshu-00472-00111558-00111797 then I guess if I may slide a little bit +xD1FwqeVshu-00473-00111798-00111925 here sure +xD1FwqeVshu-00474-00111926-00112277 because of my efforts with uh with +xD1FwqeVshu-00475-00112278-00112421 veterans and haven't gone to Vietnam +xD1FwqeVshu-00476-00112422-00112702 twice I've been very very blessed to +xD1FwqeVshu-00477-00112703-00113027 carry the banner uh for uh for for +xD1FwqeVshu-00478-00113028-00113165 veterans let me ask you a question how +xD1FwqeVshu-00479-00113166-00113308 are we on time +xD1FwqeVshu-00480-00113309-00113554 Paul how are we in time +xD1FwqeVshu-00481-00113555-00113681 five minutes +xD1FwqeVshu-00482-00113682-00113969 okay all right well the good news about +xD1FwqeVshu-00483-00113970-00114208 it I had an opportunity uh the real good +xD1FwqeVshu-00484-00114209-00114401 news I had an opportunity to get +xD1FwqeVshu-00485-00114402-00114586 appointed to the California Community +xD1FwqeVshu-00486-00114588-00114754 College Board of Governors by the +xD1FwqeVshu-00487-00114755-00114971 governator and I got a chance to start +xD1FwqeVshu-00488-00114972-00115301 the first ever on the board a veterans +xD1FwqeVshu-00489-00115302-00115565 veterans or a committee and we got a +xD1FwqeVshu-00490-00115566-00115793 chance to start growing growing veteran +xD1FwqeVshu-00491-00115794-00115954 support on the veterans service offices +xD1FwqeVshu-00492-00115955-00116243 on all the campus okay and then out here +xD1FwqeVshu-00493-00116244-00116483 we got a chance to uh I got a chance to +xD1FwqeVshu-00494-00116483-00116633 be a part of the Orange County veterans +xD1FwqeVshu-00495-00116633-00116897 advisory committee and now I'm part of +xD1FwqeVshu-00496-00116898-00117131 valor which I'm involving anything and +xD1FwqeVshu-00497-00117132-00117352 everything veterans here but because 10 +xD1FwqeVshu-00498-00117353-00117599 years ago exactly 10 years ago there was +xD1FwqeVshu-00499-00117600-00117754 no money coming in for veterans at all +xD1FwqeVshu-00500-00117755-00118049 none zero ten years ago 10 years ago it +xD1FwqeVshu-00501-00118050-00118301 was wow yeah ten years ago zip hey +xD1FwqeVshu-00502-00118302-00118552 Orange county is number three I mean in +xD1FwqeVshu-00503-00118553-00118733 the count in the state you've got La one +xD1FwqeVshu-00504-00118733-00118925 San Diego two and Orange County three +xD1FwqeVshu-00505-00118926-00119134 but between the two we didn't have +xD1FwqeVshu-00506-00119135-00119339 anything we do now +xD1FwqeVshu-00507-00119340-00119704 but we're also my pet project is working +xD1FwqeVshu-00508-00119705-00119945 with Valor and Nick bardino and we're +xD1FwqeVshu-00509-00119946-00120101 we're working with putting together the +xD1FwqeVshu-00510-00120102-00120286 new Cemetery out here in Anaheim well +xD1FwqeVshu-00511-00120288-00120425 you've been one of the big advocates for +xD1FwqeVshu-00512-00120426-00120640 that yeah we appreciate your leadership +xD1FwqeVshu-00513-00120641-00120821 in that and that's just a huge +xD1FwqeVshu-00514-00120822-00121025 accomplishment getting getting that done +xD1FwqeVshu-00515-00121026-00121373 so well I think that is that uh funny +xD1FwqeVshu-00516-00121374-00121654 story The the Todd Spitzer at that time +xD1FwqeVshu-00517-00121655-00121847 was supervisor +xD1FwqeVshu-00518-00121848-00122081 and he got the land he negotiated with +xD1FwqeVshu-00519-00122082-00122357 Donald Brynn because actually the Irvine +xD1FwqeVshu-00520-00122358-00122501 Company was going to be houses up there +xD1FwqeVshu-00521-00122502-00122813 okay but uh but something happened or +xD1FwqeVshu-00522-00122814-00123023 whatever so we got the land to put the +xD1FwqeVshu-00523-00123024-00123263 cemetery but Irvine was still playing +xD1FwqeVshu-00524-00123264-00123454 with the city doing what they wanted to +xD1FwqeVshu-00525-00123455-00123628 do and stuff on the base there sure so +xD1FwqeVshu-00526-00123629-00123808 Todd Spitzer came to me and he says okay +xD1FwqeVshu-00527-00123809-00123965 we got the land but we can't say +xD1FwqeVshu-00528-00123966-00124139 anything so you can't say anything so I +xD1FwqeVshu-00529-00124140-00124283 thought that was pretty funny Todd +xD1FwqeVshu-00530-00124283-00124499 Spitzer telling us yeah they're telling +xD1FwqeVshu-00531-00124500-00124649 me I can't something yeah yeah okay yeah +xD1FwqeVshu-00532-00124650-00124973 Mr Mr loquacious is telling the other +xD1FwqeVshu-00533-00124974-00125339 locations be quiet but we pulled it off +xD1FwqeVshu-00534-00125340-00125627 talk on it we pulled it off and +xD1FwqeVshu-00535-00125628-00125902 um uh if you get a chance and and those +xD1FwqeVshu-00536-00125903-00126047 listeners are here in Orange County if +xD1FwqeVshu-00537-00126048-00126328 you get a chance go down the 91 freeway +xD1FwqeVshu-00538-00126329-00126689 toward Corona or if you're on the you +xD1FwqeVshu-00539-00126690-00126904 get backed up a little bit on the 241 +xD1FwqeVshu-00540-00126905-00127181 going into the 91 crew of Corona we put +xD1FwqeVshu-00541-00127182-00127343 that flag there first flag is right +xD1FwqeVshu-00542-00127344-00127649 there boys it's an awesome site it's +xD1FwqeVshu-00543-00127650-00127913 awesome site so but no you mentioned +xD1FwqeVshu-00544-00127914-00128165 UCLA so I went to UCLA obviously and I +xD1FwqeVshu-00545-00128166-00128375 did whatever it took I had so many +xD1FwqeVshu-00546-00128376-00128543 different jobs and one of the jobs I had +xD1FwqeVshu-00547-00128544-00128740 was reading scripts +xD1FwqeVshu-00548-00128741-00129101 and every script I I read I rejected you +xD1FwqeVshu-00549-00129102-00129293 know I'd say do not recommend do not +xD1FwqeVshu-00550-00129294-00129545 recommend the only script I recommended +xD1FwqeVshu-00551-00129546-00129808 was a script on Buffalo Soldiers wow the +xD1FwqeVshu-00552-00129809-00130097 only script and I know you've been once +xD1FwqeVshu-00553-00130098-00130378 again a big Advocate a big historian +xD1FwqeVshu-00554-00130379-00130595 just somebody getting out the word about +xD1FwqeVshu-00555-00130596-00130810 what the Buffalo Soldiers were all about +xD1FwqeVshu-00556-00130811-00131075 I know you were just in the Rose Parade +xD1FwqeVshu-00557-00131076-00131275 which was really cool and see you on +xD1FwqeVshu-00558-00131276-00131716 KTLA uh early on you know January 2nd +xD1FwqeVshu-00559-00131717-00131945 yeah and uh you just and then you did it +xD1FwqeVshu-00560-00131946-00132173 at your Gala too you just uh you just 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+xD1FwqeVshu-00574-00134736-00134981 yeah I know my limitations but you get +xD1FwqeVshu-00575-00134982-00135209 to play against Pete Maravich too no +xD1FwqeVshu-00576-00135210-00135377 that was Pistol Pete he was Louisiana I +xD1FwqeVshu-00577-00135378-00135628 couldn't get down to bed bottom line is +xD1FwqeVshu-00578-00135629-00135833 my dad and my four uncles were Buffalo +xD1FwqeVshu-00579-00135834-00136151 Soldiers during World War II wow and uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00580-00136152-00136337 they were Master sergeants uh which is +xD1FwqeVshu-00581-00136338-00136590 probably the reason why I understand uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00582-00136591-00136973 discipline yeah uh I had an aunt that +xD1FwqeVshu-00583-00136974-00137278 was one of the first black nurses as an +xD1FwqeVshu-00584-00137279-00137561 officer in the United States Army as a +xD1FwqeVshu-00585-00137562-00137783 nurse down station down in Fort Huachuca +xD1FwqeVshu-00586-00137784-00138040 which is really cool from a standpoint +xD1FwqeVshu-00587-00138041-00138299 it was Eleanor Roosevelt and Mary McLeod +xD1FwqeVshu-00588-00138300-00138575 Bethune and another nurse that went to +xD1FwqeVshu-00589-00138576-00138737 the Secretary of the army and said hey +xD1FwqeVshu-00590-00138738-00138947 this will be neat so they wound up +xD1FwqeVshu-00591-00138948-00139187 making those put nurses together and +xD1FwqeVshu-00592-00139188-00139325 sent them in touch they send them to +xD1FwqeVshu-00593-00139326-00139523 Tuskegee and they send them to Fort uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00594-00139524-00139852 Fort Huachuca and then on my mother's +xD1FwqeVshu-00595-00139853-00139949 side +xD1FwqeVshu-00596-00139950-00140213 uh I if I I can trace my record I was +xD1FwqeVshu-00597-00140214-00140428 looking for stuff on my dad and I wound +xD1FwqeVshu-00598-00140429-00140687 up finding out that uh on my mother's +xD1FwqeVshu-00599-00140688-00140993 side on Louisiana militia roles for the +xD1FwqeVshu-00600-00140994-00141209 war of 1812. there were two I had two +xD1FwqeVshu-00601-00141210-00141449 relatives bulbasaurs if you will that +xD1FwqeVshu-00602-00141450-00141593 was a maiden name my mother's maiden +xD1FwqeVshu-00603-00141594-00141839 name on the rolls for Louisiana militia +xD1FwqeVshu-00604-00141840-00142223 so I go back to the war of 1812. wow but +xD1FwqeVshu-00605-00142224-00142469 uh but from an educational standpoint +xD1FwqeVshu-00606-00142470-00142631 and what got me deeper and deeper +xD1FwqeVshu-00607-00142632-00142949 Michael heard from USA Today and I both +xD1FwqeVshu-00608-00142950-00143266 kind of wrote a book on the history the +xD1FwqeVshu-00609-00143267-00143464 black college football the historic you +xD1FwqeVshu-00610-00143465-00143735 know history education and pride and one +xD1FwqeVshu-00611-00143736-00144023 of the stories in the in the book +xD1FwqeVshu-00612-00144024-00144281 that we wrote and it's all on the +xD1FwqeVshu-00613-00144282-00144443 historical black colleges from the 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Lincoln University in +xD1FwqeVshu-00628-00148002-00148247 Jefferson City Missouri wow that was the +xD1FwqeVshu-00629-00148248-00148390 value of Education +xD1FwqeVshu-00630-00148391-00148625 and as I dug deeper into it with some of +xD1FwqeVshu-00631-00148626-00148973 the Buffalo Soldiers I found out that if +xD1FwqeVshu-00632-00148974-00149177 you were caught gambling +xD1FwqeVshu-00633-00149178-00149428 or well let's use that if you were +xD1FwqeVshu-00634-00149429-00149633 caught gambling and you didn't know your +xD1FwqeVshu-00635-00149634-00149873 ABCs you went to the brig till you +xD1FwqeVshu-00636-00149874-00150095 learned your ABCs +xD1FwqeVshu-00637-00150096-00150323 all right I are you advocating that we +xD1FwqeVshu-00638-00150324-00150671 do that today no no I don't think to no +xD1FwqeVshu-00639-00150672-00150947 no because most people in jail know +xD1FwqeVshu-00640-00150948-00151169 their ABCs but I'm just saying but +xD1FwqeVshu-00641-00151170-00151433 you're looking at 1866. yeah sure and I +xD1FwqeVshu-00642-00151434-00151577 mean that's that's the value of +xD1FwqeVshu-00643-00151578-00151823 Education oh yeah absolutely yeah and +xD1FwqeVshu-00644-00151824-00151966 then come to find out that my my +xD1FwqeVshu-00645-00151967-00152297 grandfather was graduated from Florida a +xD1FwqeVshu-00646-00152298-00152489 m he's a rattler so he went to a +xD1FwqeVshu-00647-00152490-00152831 historical black college so uh you know +xD1FwqeVshu-00648-00152832-00153161 I I'm I'm happy with what I'm doing uh +xD1FwqeVshu-00649-00153162-00153371 I'm loving it the thing that we did at +xD1FwqeVshu-00650-00153372-00153526 the banquet this year I know we're short +xD1FwqeVshu-00651-00153527-00153826 on time but sure but uh it was 125th +xD1FwqeVshu-00652-00153827-00153964 anniversary +xD1FwqeVshu-00653-00153965-00154264 of the 25th Infantry which is one of the +xD1FwqeVshu-00654-00154265-00154451 Buffalo Soldier groups +xD1FwqeVshu-00655-00154452-00154607 that 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history of the Rose Parade +xD1FwqeVshu-00670-00158160-00158399 really yes sir there was no other but +xD1FwqeVshu-00671-00158400-00158663 it's interesting well when I say that I +xD1FwqeVshu-00672-00158664-00158854 preface that because around the floats +xD1FwqeVshu-00673-00158855-00159011 they may have had bikes or something +xD1FwqeVshu-00674-00159012-00159239 like that or bikes but never a group a +xD1FwqeVshu-00675-00159240-00159461 group yeah either you're a float a +xD1FwqeVshu-00676-00159462-00159659 equestrian or your car yeah that's right +xD1FwqeVshu-00677-00159660-00159851 yeah that's right yeah or a band you +xD1FwqeVshu-00678-00159852-00160145 know whatever yeah well uh we appreciate +xD1FwqeVshu-00679-00160146-00160349 you coming out today I know time goes +xD1FwqeVshu-00680-00160350-00160654 really fast on this uh this podcast and +xD1FwqeVshu-00681-00160655-00160859 we'll have to do this again uh sometime +xD1FwqeVshu-00682-00160860-00161093 soon but we want to 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these bastards before +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00064-00026175-00026455 they find us and rob this for their +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00065-00026456-00027702 planet +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00066-00027702-00028448 [Applause] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00067-00028449-00029183 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00068-00029183-00029287 what's that +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00069-00029288-00029511 cracks of course there's quite a few of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00070-00029512-00029927 them +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00071-00029927-00030174 as far as i can tell the only fools out +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00072-00030175-00030358 here are us and now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00073-00030360-00030767 they must be this way +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00074-00030768-00030883 you good +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00075-00030883-00031239 dutch of course listen i know you don't +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00076-00031239-00031511 think much of my ideas recently but this +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00077-00031512-00031702 is the right move +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00078-00031703-00031911 okay +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00079-00031912-00032183 you know i got your back +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00080-00032183-00032439 i learned a long time ago that you hit +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00081-00032439-00032735 como driscoll wait for him and people +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00082-00032736-00032983 you love with god +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00083-00032984-00033335 this feud between you and him +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00084-00033336-00033543 needs to be put to rest +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00085-00033544-00033990 one way or another +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00086-00033991-00034231 some things i can't forgive +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00087-00034232-00034471 others i can't forget +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00088-00034472-00034711 what he did to annabelle +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00089-00034712-00034935 i can't do neither +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00090-00034936-00035239 you killed his brother dutch +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00091-00035240-00035335 yes +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00092-00035336-00035487 i did +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00093-00035488-00035711 i hope the bastards will be reunited +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00094-00035712-00035830 soon enough +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00095-00035831-00036055 that's how this will end +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00096-00036056-00036551 damn right +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00097-00036552-00036702 see boss smoke +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00098-00036703-00036902 let's cut up here and take a look they +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00099-00036903-00037102 said it was near the lake so we must be +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00100-00037103-00038311 close +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00101-00038312-00039023 hold up here +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00102-00039024-00039215 all right gentlemen +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00103-00039216-00039543 this is it +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00104-00039544-00039718 are we goddamn +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00105-00039719-00040046 ready ready dutch good +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00106-00040047-00040183 now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00107-00040184-00040367 mr morgan and i +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00108-00040368-00040551 we're gonna head up here a little see if +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00109-00040552-00040711 we can't get a sense of the layout of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00110-00040712-00040855 the camp +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00111-00040856-00041095 mr williamson mr bell +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00112-00041096-00041271 you two take up a hidden position just +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00113-00041272-00041439 outside the camp +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00114-00041440-00041711 mr summers mr escuela +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00115-00041712-00041815 you too +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00116-00041816-00042127 hold position here +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00117-00042128-00044805 let's go +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00118-00044806-00045687 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00119-00045688-00045862 there they are +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00120-00045863-00046111 that's definitely them +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00121-00046112-00046215 home +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00122-00046216-00046358 i think so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00123-00046359-00046439 yeah +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00124-00046440-00047903 that's him +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00125-00047904-00048967 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00126-00048968-00049158 who's he talking to +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00127-00049159-00049495 he don't seem very happy +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00128-00049496-00049754 no +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00129-00049755-00050015 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00130-00050016-00050286 they leaving seem to be should we go get +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00131-00050287-00050462 him no +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00132-00050463-00050646 colin can wait +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00133-00050647-00051062 best to get some of them out of there +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00134-00051063-00051270 and much less fun to rob him and his +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00135-00051271-00051550 score if he never finds out about it +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00136-00051551-00051863 all right let's go pay our old friends a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00137-00051864-00052759 visit +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00138-00052760-00052935 don't forget to grab that rifle from +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00139-00052936-00053542 your horse +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00140-00053544-00053726 you boys be ready to pick them off from +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00141-00053727-00053830 up there +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00142-00053832-00054320 you got it dutch +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00143-00054321-00054911 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00144-00054912-00055447 good come on let's go +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00145-00055448-00055671 seems easiest to take the same path down +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00146-00055672-00055830 as bill and micah +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00147-00055832-00056103 like you said revenge is a luxury we +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00148-00056104-00056430 can't afford yeah just wasn't sure you +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00149-00056432-00056679 agreed with me arthur +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00150-00056679-00056919 arthur have you completely lost faith in +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00151-00056920-00057175 me our needs right now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00152-00057176-00057479 are supplies equipment and way out of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00153-00057479-00057566 here +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00154-00057567-00057871 everything else including +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00155-00057872-00057950 weight +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00156-00057951-00058063 okay +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00157-00058064-00058238 there's enough of those bastards down +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00158-00058239-00058447 there to deal with as it is +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00159-00058448-00059785 come on +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00160-00059786-00062196 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00161-00062197-00063550 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00162-00063551-00063694 oh watch out +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00164-00066824-00067103 maybe i should take the lead on this +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00165-00067104-00067319 they're going to be gunning for you they +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00166-00067320-00067543 ain't got me yet no +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00167-00067544-00067871 but the way our luck's been running hush +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00168-00067872-00068303 let's just get down there first +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00169-00068304-00068511 follow me let's head for that building +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00170-00068512-00070396 in front +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00171-00070397-00071423 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00172-00071424-00071812 stay low +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00173-00071813-00072126 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00174-00072127-00074182 come on follow me +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00175-00074183-00074303 so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00176-00074304-00074471 what are we doing dutch +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00177-00074472-00074719 i can take this if you want +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00178-00074720-00077071 just +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00179-00077072-00077375 okay fine you make the move +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00180-00077376-00078516 all right +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00181-00078517-00079071 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00182-00079072-00080326 ah +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00184-00084095-00084622 of those cabins to the right +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00185-00084623-00085585 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00186-00085586-00087255 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00187-00087256-00088535 build up +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00188-00088536-00088735 i think that's all of them search the +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00189-00088736-00089271 bodies strip everything we can from them +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00190-00089272-00089503 you recognize any of them ducks of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00191-00089504-00089638 course not +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00192-00089639-00089918 cone doesn't give a damn about his men +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00193-00089919-00090191 all he cares about is numbers if you can +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00194-00090192-00090447 shoot a gun and ride a horse +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00195-00090448-00090718 still without thought you're in it think +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00196-00090719-00091031 how long some of you have been with me +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00197-00091032-00091247 i imagine calm doesn't even know half +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00198-00091248-00092055 the names of these fools +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00199-00092056-00092311 heads up boys we got more coming in from +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00200-00092312-00093191 the forest +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00201-00093192-00093843 so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00202-00093844-00095150 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00203-00095151-00096382 [__] there's a lot of them +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00204-00096383-00096515 all right +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00205-00096516-00098561 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00206-00098562-00099935 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00207-00099936-00100631 ah +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00208-00100632-00100887 the cowards are running away +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00210-00109455-00109710 [__] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00211-00109711-00109815 okay +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00212-00109816-00110023 let's take a look +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00213-00110024-00110215 you all right back there does everything +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00214-00110216-00110543 look all right whoa what's going on ah i +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00215-00110544-00110823 broke the goddamn wheel all right let's +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00216-00110824-00111047 get it fixed you need help +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00217-00111048-00112083 i reckon we can handle +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00218-00112083-00112343 it all right charles you and me hold the +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00219-00112344-00112502 thing up while you try and put the wheel +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00220-00112503-00112607 back on +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00221-00112608-00112823 you still strong enough to hold up a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00222-00112824-00112986 wagon +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00223-00112988-00113447 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00224-00113448-00113999 nearly there +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00225-00114000-00114095 see +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00226-00114096-00114375 you ain't so useless after all +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00227-00114376-00114725 not quite +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00228-00114726-00115639 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00229-00115640-00115886 what do you think +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00230-00115888-00116071 if they wanted trouble +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00231-00116072-00116471 we wouldn't have seen him +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00232-00116472-00116647 we're bastards +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00233-00116648-00116958 we really screwed them over down here +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00234-00116959-00117190 come on let's not push our luck what +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00235-00117191-00117286 happened +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00236-00117288-00117407 well +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00237-00117408-00117534 get in +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00238-00117535-00118510 i'll tell you +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00239-00118511-00118671 not too far now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00240-00118672-00118886 stay on this trail +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00241-00118888-00119110 we'll follow the river then cut left +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00242-00119111-00119423 inland +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00243-00119424-00119623 get up there let's stick tight +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00244-00119624-00119743 so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00245-00119744-00119854 yes +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00246-00119855-00120054 the indians in these parts got sold a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00247-00120055-00120254 very raw deal +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00248-00120255-00120471 this is the heartlands we're going to +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00249-00120472-00120695 good firemen and grayson country they +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00250-00120696-00120871 lost it all +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00251-00120872-00121039 stole them clean away from them it was +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00252-00121040-00121239 every blade of grass +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00253-00121240-00121407 killed or heard it up to the +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00254-00121408-00121671 reservations in the middle of nowhere +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00255-00121672-00121831 and how's that different from anywhere +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00256-00121832-00121951 else +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00257-00121952-00122207 well maybe it's not +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00258-00122208-00122414 i just heard some of the army out here +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00259-00122415-00122823 was particularly uh unpleasant about it +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00260-00122824-00122990 unpleasant +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00261-00122991-00123143 how do you rob and kill people +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00262-00123144-00123271 pleasantly +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00263-00123272-00123599 we don't in spite of that just talk +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00264-00123600-00123863 i fear i was perhaps trying to simplify +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00265-00123864-00124047 something more complicated for the +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00266-00124048-00124383 benefit of our blockheaded driver here +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00267-00124383-00124478 hey +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00268-00124479-00124686 don't blame it on me +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00269-00124688-00124975 never forget this here's a con man +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00270-00124976-00125199 charles born and bred +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00271-00125200-00125454 just cause it sounds fancy don't mean he +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00272-00125455-00125654 knows a damn thing about what he's +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00273-00125655-00126214 talking about +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00274-00126215-00126375 so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00275-00126376-00126614 what happened to your trap +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00276-00126615-00126863 i don't even know if i have one at least +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00277-00126864-00127086 not that i can remember +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00278-00127088-00127343 my father was a colored man +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00279-00127344-00127502 he told me he lived with our people for +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00280-00127503-00127790 a while a number of free men did +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00281-00127791-00127943 when we were forced to move from our +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00282-00127944-00128247 lands the three of us fled +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00283-00128248-00128502 i was too young to really remember much +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00284-00128503-00128799 my whole life i've been on the run +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00285-00128800-00128966 a couple years later some soldiers +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00286-00128967-00129263 captured my mother took her somewhere +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00287-00129264-00129486 we never saw her again +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00288-00129488-00129671 we drifted around +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00289-00129672-00129895 he was a very sad man and the drink had +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00290-00129896-00130095 a mean hold on +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00291-00130096-00130231 round 13 +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00292-00130232-00130478 i just took off on my own that was about +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00293-00130479-00130695 the age we found young arthur here maybe +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00294-00130696-00130831 a little older +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00295-00130832-00131119 a wilder delinquent you never did see +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00296-00131120-00131351 but he learned fast +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00297-00131352-00131647 not as fast as marston apparently +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00298-00131648-00131751 wait +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00299-00131752-00131911 i don't understand +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00300-00131912-00132087 what's the problem between you two +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00301-00132088-00132207 arthur +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00302-00132208-00132790 yeah it's a long story +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00303-00132791-00133039 we still heading the right way that +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00304-00133040-00133151 depends +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00305-00133152-00133383 are we still heading west in search of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00306-00133384-00133678 fortune and repose in virgin forests as +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00307-00133679-00133807 we plan +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00308-00133808-00133887 no +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00309-00133888-00134087 are we heading in the correct direction +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00310-00134088-00134278 on our desperate escape from the law +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00311-00134279-00134502 eastwards down the mountains +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00312-00134503-00134839 yes i believe so you know this area a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00313-00134840-00134927 little +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00314-00134928-00135159 i've been through a couple of times +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00315-00135160-00135359 there's a livestock town not too far +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00316-00135360-00135559 from here called valentine +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00317-00135560-00135751 cowboys outlaws +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00318-00135752-00136039 working girls our kind of place +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00319-00136040-00136399 driscolls probably them too pinkertons +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00320-00136400-00136751 let's hope not in this place we're going +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00321-00136752-00136839 wait +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00322-00136840-00137119 what's it called again horseshoe opener +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00323-00137120-00137351 it's a good place to lie low they'll do +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00324-00137352-00137502 for now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00325-00137503-00137654 and how low would you think dutch is +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00326-00137655-00137863 really going to lie +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00327-00137864-00137999 it's just +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00328-00138000-00138102 you know +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00329-00138103-00138390 maybe it's me who's changed not him but +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00330-00138391-00138583 we kept telling him that fairy job +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00331-00138584-00138751 didn't feel right +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00332-00138752-00138951 you and me had a real lead in blackwater +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00333-00138952-00139095 that could have worked out +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00334-00139096-00139231 maybe +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00335-00139232-00139327 it just +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00336-00139328-00139511 isn't like dutch to lose his head like +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00337-00139512-00139847 that things go wrong sometimes +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00338-00139848-00139983 people die +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00339-00139984-00140159 it's the way it is +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00340-00140160-00140383 always has been +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00341-00140384-00140535 me you +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00342-00140536-00140663 dutch +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00343-00140664-00140823 we've all been in this line of work a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00344-00140824-00140975 long time +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00345-00140976-00141223 and we're still here so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00346-00141224-00141423 i figured we must have got it right a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00347-00141424-00141971 hell of a lot more than we got it wrong +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00348-00141972-00142302 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00349-00142303-00142575 what are you working on there anyway +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00350-00142576-00142831 just some gyara and ginseng +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00351-00142832-00143054 good for the health better than that +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00352-00143055-00143343 stuff you buy in the store yeah +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00353-00143344-00143535 you can have all this +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00354-00143536-00143695 i'm at the point where i can do it with +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00355-00143696-00145207 my eyes closed okay thank you +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00356-00145208-00145481 okay let's go +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00357-00145482-00146143 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00358-00146144-00146407 any trouble getting in here javier +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00359-00146408-00146487 nope +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00360-00146488-00146607 it went well +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00361-00146608-00146911 this is a good spot excellent +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00362-00146912-00147143 i think this will work for us arthur for +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00364-00151394-00152143 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00365-00152144-00152999 here we are gentlemen home sweet home +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00366-00153000-00153126 this place +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00367-00153127-00153263 is perfect +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00368-00153264-00153399 i hope so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00369-00153400-00153575 gentlemen +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00370-00153576-00153887 we have survived but now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00371-00153888-00154083 now it is time to +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00372-00154084-00154302 prosper arthur and i were about to +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00373-00154303-00154526 prosper in black water we're onto +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00374-00154527-00154663 something big +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00375-00154664-00154871 then micah got you all excited about +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00376-00154872-00155151 that fairy and here we are we have all +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00377-00155152-00155439 made mistakes over the years hosea +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00378-00155440-00155647 every last one of us +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00379-00155648-00155895 but i kept us together +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00380-00155896-00156166 kept us alive kept the nooses off our +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00381-00156167-00156343 neck +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00382-00156344-00156519 i guess i'm just worried +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00383-00156520-00156735 i ain't got that long dutch i want folks +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00384-00156736-00156966 safe before i go me too and now we are +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00385-00156967-00157175 stuck east of the grizzlies and out of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00386-00157176-00157271 money +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00387-00157272-00157535 and a long way from a dream of virgin +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00388-00157536-00157743 land in the west i know +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00389-00157744-00157935 my brother but we are +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00390-00157936-00158175 safe we make a bit of money here then we +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00391-00158176-00158439 move again head out around them be west +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00392-00158440-00158719 of uncle sam in a few months buy some +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00393-00158720-00158814 land +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00394-00158815-00159063 i hope so +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00395-00159064-00159478 would you just look around you +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00396-00159479-00159911 this world has its consolations +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00397-00159912-00160159 gentlemen i'm going to head into the +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00398-00160160-00160390 local town and uh you know +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00399-00160391-00160663 see if i can strike up a little business +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00400-00160664-00160863 of course hair strauss +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00401-00160864-00161135 i prefer robin banks to usury +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00402-00161136-00161454 seems more dignified somehow +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00403-00161455-00161551 now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00404-00161552-00161783 everyone put your tools down for a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00405-00161784-00162151 moment come on gather round quickly now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00406-00162152-00162278 i know +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00407-00162279-00162478 that things have been tough +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00408-00162479-00162639 but we are safe +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00409-00162640-00162719 now +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00410-00162720-00162983 and we are far too poor +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00411-00162984-00163278 so it is time for everyone to get to +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00412-00163279-00163599 work get to work but stay out of trouble +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00413-00163600-00163838 remember we are itinerant workers laid +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00414-00163839-00164102 off when they shut down our factory to +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00415-00164103-00164383 the north now get out there and see what +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00416-00164384-00164759 you can find uncle reverend swanson no +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00417-00164760-00164943 more passengers +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00418-00164944-00165254 it is time for everyone +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00419-00165255-00165623 to earn their keep there is a town a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00420-00165624-00165783 little way down the track name of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00421-00165784-00166063 valentine livestock town all mud and +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00422-00166064-00166326 morons if i remember right that seems a +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00423-00166327-00166559 decent place to start and uh we need +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00424-00166560-00166678 food +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00425-00166679-00166902 real food that means every day one of +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00426-00166903-00167166 you and remember whatever it is that you +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00427-00167167-00167295 find +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00428-00167296-00167454 the camp +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00429-00167455-00167751 gets its slice +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00430-00167752-00168063 now be sensible out there +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00431-00168064-00168247 now the girls have your tent ready mr +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00432-00168248-00168407 morgan come with me +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00433-00168408-00168607 you two will be ready shortly we put you +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00434-00168608-00168711 over here +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00435-00168712-00168983 i'm sure everything will be fine miss +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00436-00168984-00169166 grimshaw it should be most your stuff +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00437-00169167-00169366 from blackwater got saved everything +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00438-00169367-00169623 apart from my money oh don't remind me +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00439-00169624-00169719 well +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00440-00169720-00169887 we can always make more money we're +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00441-00169888-00170054 gonna have to +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00442-00170055-00170295 miss jackson i've seen [__] with more +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00443-00170296-00171078 common sense if you do it properly +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00444-00171079-00171735 [Music] +xIuOZ68z8Ag-00445-00171736-00171944 you +xJkkMr6EksQ-00000-00001492-00001698 uh +xJkkMr6EksQ-00001-00001700-00002883 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00002-00002884-00003154 foreign +xJkkMr6EksQ-00003-00003155-00004311 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00004-00004312-00004703 bye +xJkkMr6EksQ-00005-00004704-00006425 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00006-00006426-00007083 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00007-00007084-00007186 so +xJkkMr6EksQ-00008-00007187-00008483 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00009-00008484-00008888 problem +xJkkMr6EksQ-00010-00008889-00009589 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00011-00009590-00009883 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00012-00009884-00010160 so +xJkkMr6EksQ-00014-00014084-00014647 do +xJkkMr6EksQ-00015-00014647-00015194 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00017-00018284-00018603 so +xJkkMr6EksQ-00018-00018604-00019683 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00019-00019684-00019964 so +xJkkMr6EksQ-00020-00019965-00020506 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00022-00023884-00024438 huh +xJkkMr6EksQ-00023-00024439-00025283 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00024-00025284-00025536 down +xJkkMr6EksQ-00025-00025537-00026683 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00026-00026683-00027055 foreign +xJkkMr6EksQ-00028-00030883-00032283 so +xJkkMr6EksQ-00029-00032283-00032516 foreign +xJkkMr6EksQ-00030-00032517-00033683 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00031-00033684-00033969 foreign +xJkkMr6EksQ-00033-00037884-00038476 so +xJkkMr6EksQ-00035-00042568-00043836 come on +xJkkMr6EksQ-00037-00047684-00048097 so +xJkkMr6EksQ-00038-00048098-00050483 [Music] +xJkkMr6EksQ-00039-00050484-00050784 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00000-00002719-00002902 ok so +xJMNxpr88wI-00001-00002903-00003126 let me ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00002-00003127-00003399 recall what we did in the last lecture +xJMNxpr88wI-00003-00003400-00003559 so if you remember the theme that we are +xJMNxpr88wI-00004-00003560-00003806 discussing is about zeros of analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00005-00003807-00003943 functions ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00006-00003944-00004031 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00007-00004032-00004263 as you know the +xJMNxpr88wI-00008-00004264-00004343 the +xJMNxpr88wI-00009-00004344-00004631 residue theorem allows you to +xJMNxpr88wI-00010-00004632-00004967 ah compute the number of zeros ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00011-00004968-00005215 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00012-00005216-00005391 in that is through the so called +xJMNxpr88wI-00013-00005392-00005583 argument principle +xJMNxpr88wI-00014-00005584-00005735 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00015-00005736-00005911 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00016-00005912-00006222 we saw +xJMNxpr88wI-00017-00006223-00006495 rosh's theorem which tells us that +xJMNxpr88wI-00018-00006495-00006623 if you +xJMNxpr88wI-00019-00006623-00006991 take an analytic function and change it +xJMNxpr88wI-00020-00006992-00007175 by small amount that you may that is you +xJMNxpr88wI-00021-00007176-00007446 add a smaller function to it +xJMNxpr88wI-00022-00007447-00007583 a function that is smaller on the +xJMNxpr88wI-00023-00007584-00007767 boundary curve +xJMNxpr88wI-00024-00007768-00008078 in in of course in magnitude or modulus +xJMNxpr88wI-00025-00008079-00008246 then the there is no change in the +xJMNxpr88wI-00026-00008247-00008478 number of zeros ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00027-00008479-00008751 and then what we discussed in the last +xJMNxpr88wI-00028-00008752-00008983 lecture was hurvisio's theorem who reads +xJMNxpr88wI-00029-00008984-00009095 this theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00030-00009096-00009327 which says that the 0 of +xJMNxpr88wI-00031-00009328-00009695 limit of analytic functions +xJMNxpr88wI-00032-00009696-00009774 is +xJMNxpr88wI-00033-00009775-00009903 coming from +xJMNxpr88wI-00034-00009904-00010238 zeros of the functions in the limit okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00035-00010239-00010519 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00036-00010520-00010903 so let me +xJMNxpr88wI-00037-00010904-00011103 let me just recall that +xJMNxpr88wI-00038-00011104-00012103 so here is here is four which is theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00039-00012104-00012327 so you assume that +xJMNxpr88wI-00040-00012328-00012487 f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00041-00012488-00012735 is a sequence of analytic functions +xJMNxpr88wI-00042-00012736-00012974 which converges to the function f +xJMNxpr88wI-00043-00012975-00013294 normally +xJMNxpr88wI-00044-00013295-00013471 in normally on +xJMNxpr88wI-00045-00013472-00014063 a domain d +xJMNxpr88wI-00046-00014063-00014247 so let me +xJMNxpr88wI-00047-00014247-00014527 let me recall that ah domain is an open +xJMNxpr88wI-00048-00014528-00014830 connected set it need not be bounded +xJMNxpr88wI-00049-00014831-00014991 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00050-00014991-00015375 ah of course subset of the complex plane +xJMNxpr88wI-00051-00015376-00015694 and all these fks are analytic functions +xJMNxpr88wI-00052-00015695-00015903 defined on d +xJMNxpr88wI-00053-00015904-00016263 and this f that this statement that f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00054-00016263-00016479 converges to f normally +xJMNxpr88wI-00055-00016480-00016694 means that the convergence is +xJMNxpr88wI-00056-00016695-00016943 uniform on compact subsets +xJMNxpr88wI-00057-00016944-00017167 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00058-00017168-00017407 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00059-00017408-00017630 and then what would be this theorem says +xJMNxpr88wI-00060-00017631-00017703 that +xJMNxpr88wI-00061-00017704-00018007 if you take a zero of f +xJMNxpr88wI-00062-00018008-00018158 let z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00063-00018159-00018614 ah belonging to d b a zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00064-00018615-00018703 of +xJMNxpr88wI-00065-00018704-00018830 f +xJMNxpr88wI-00066-00018831-00019079 of order +xJMNxpr88wI-00067-00019080-00019286 m naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00068-00019287-00019471 so ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00069-00019472-00019671 as i explained in the last lectures +xJMNxpr88wI-00070-00019672-00019911 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00071-00019912-00020167 it will follow that f is analytic ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00072-00020168-00020383 because of normal convergence a normal +xJMNxpr88wI-00073-00020384-00020535 limit of analytic functions is again +xJMNxpr88wI-00074-00020536-00020639 analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00075-00020640-00020767 ok that is essentially because of the +xJMNxpr88wI-00076-00020768-00021119 uniform convergence on compact subsets +xJMNxpr88wI-00077-00021120-00021399 and since analytic function has ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00078-00021400-00021575 zeros which are isolated +xJMNxpr88wI-00079-00021576-00021919 ok you can always find given any zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00080-00021920-00022055 you can find +xJMNxpr88wI-00081-00022056-00022167 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00082-00022168-00022311 a disk surrounding that zero where there +xJMNxpr88wI-00083-00022312-00022647 are no other zeros ok so +xJMNxpr88wI-00084-00022648-00022735 i am +xJMNxpr88wI-00085-00022736-00022871 suppose i pick +xJMNxpr88wI-00086-00022872-00023150 0 of the limit function +xJMNxpr88wI-00087-00023151-00023327 and suppose 0 is of +xJMNxpr88wI-00088-00023328-00023463 order m naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00089-00023464-00023711 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00090-00023712-00023839 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00091-00023840-00024086 there exists a row greater than zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00092-00024087-00024383 such that +xJMNxpr88wI-00093-00024384-00024471 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00094-00024472-00024583 for +xJMNxpr88wI-00095-00024584-00024671 k +xJMNxpr88wI-00096-00024672-00025367 sufficiently large +xJMNxpr88wI-00097-00025368-00025494 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00098-00025495-00025606 f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00099-00025607-00025750 has +xJMNxpr88wI-00100-00025751-00026014 exactly +xJMNxpr88wI-00101-00026016-00026351 m m naught zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00102-00026352-00026439 in +xJMNxpr88wI-00103-00026439-00026679 mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00104-00026680-00027351 ah strictly less than rho +xJMNxpr88wI-00105-00027352-00027502 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00106-00027504-00027774 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00107-00027775-00027887 z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00108-00027888-00028511 is an accumulation point +xJMNxpr88wI-00109-00028512-00028702 point +xJMNxpr88wI-00110-00028704-00028974 of such +xJMNxpr88wI-00111-00028975-00029262 ah zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00112-00029263-00029374 as +xJMNxpr88wI-00113-00029375-00029767 if you want rho tends to zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00114-00029768-00029887 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00115-00029888-00030079 so this is horubic system +xJMNxpr88wI-00116-00030080-00030262 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00117-00030263-00030431 i explained the +xJMNxpr88wI-00118-00030432-00030670 proof of the of this theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00119-00030672-00030879 and basically +xJMNxpr88wI-00120-00030880-00031055 the proof of course use the argument +xJMNxpr88wI-00121-00031056-00031255 principle ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00122-00031256-00031527 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00123-00031527-00031887 in fact +xJMNxpr88wI-00124-00031888-00032518 i mean the basic idea of the proof was +xJMNxpr88wI-00125-00032519-00032662 the idea of the proof i gave last time +xJMNxpr88wI-00126-00032663-00033087 was you just calculate one by two pi i +xJMNxpr88wI-00127-00033088-00033399 integral over mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00128-00033400-00033567 equal to rho +xJMNxpr88wI-00129-00033568-00033774 of d log +xJMNxpr88wI-00130-00033775-00034039 f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00131-00034040-00034174 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00132-00034175-00034567 show that this tends to one by two pi i +xJMNxpr88wI-00133-00034568-00034871 integral over mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00134-00034872-00035039 equal to rho +xJMNxpr88wI-00135-00035040-00035262 of d log f +xJMNxpr88wI-00136-00035263-00035543 where of course d log f k stands for f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00137-00035544-00035759 prime the derivative first derivative of +xJMNxpr88wI-00138-00035760-00035974 k divided by f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00139-00035975-00036351 d z and similarly d log f stands for +xJMNxpr88wI-00140-00036352-00036511 e f prime by f +xJMNxpr88wI-00141-00036512-00036743 the first derivative of f divided by f +xJMNxpr88wI-00142-00036744-00036951 the logarithmic derivative +xJMNxpr88wI-00143-00036952-00037135 d z ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00144-00037136-00037279 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00145-00037280-00037495 of course the the +xJMNxpr88wI-00146-00037496-00037735 more serious point of the proof was that +xJMNxpr88wI-00147-00037736-00037871 you will have to show that this is +xJMNxpr88wI-00148-00037872-00038039 defined this is defined and then this +xJMNxpr88wI-00149-00038040-00038174 converges to that +xJMNxpr88wI-00150-00038175-00038359 and of course argument the argument +xJMNxpr88wI-00151-00038360-00038527 principle will tell you that +xJMNxpr88wI-00152-00038528-00038783 this is actually m naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00153-00038784-00039039 and this if you call this as mk +xJMNxpr88wI-00154-00039040-00039383 then the argument will tell you that mk +xJMNxpr88wI-00155-00039384-00039551 then of course this this m naught is of +xJMNxpr88wI-00156-00039552-00039727 course the value of this integral is m +xJMNxpr88wI-00157-00039728-00039918 naught which is the number of zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00158-00039919-00040223 of uh f in this inside the inside the +xJMNxpr88wI-00159-00040224-00040318 region +xJMNxpr88wI-00160-00040319-00040599 ah bounded by this circle +xJMNxpr88wI-00161-00040600-00040895 and of course you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00162-00040896-00041055 you don't +xJMNxpr88wI-00163-00041056-00041255 i mean you choose this disc as i told +xJMNxpr88wI-00164-00041256-00041367 you in such a way that there are no +xJMNxpr88wI-00165-00041368-00041574 other zeros of f +xJMNxpr88wI-00166-00041575-00041767 and similarly +xJMNxpr88wI-00167-00041768-00041983 this quantity if you call this as m sub +xJMNxpr88wI-00168-00041984-00042079 k +xJMNxpr88wI-00169-00042080-00042343 that will be the number of zeros of fk +xJMNxpr88wI-00170-00042344-00042518 inside this disk +xJMNxpr88wI-00171-00042519-00042607 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00172-00042608-00042783 this argument +xJMNxpr88wI-00173-00042784-00042983 tells you that +xJMNxpr88wI-00174-00042984-00043223 this m k converges to m naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00175-00043224-00043399 and but then m k being a sequence of +xJMNxpr88wI-00176-00043400-00043502 integers +xJMNxpr88wI-00177-00043503-00043639 when you say sequence of integers +xJMNxpr88wI-00178-00043640-00043815 converges to an integer it means that +xJMNxpr88wI-00179-00043816-00043999 beyond a certain state the sequence of +xJMNxpr88wI-00180-00044000-00044190 integers is just that constant integer +xJMNxpr88wI-00181-00044191-00044383 which is the limit okay so that means +xJMNxpr88wI-00182-00044384-00044607 that mk is equal to m naught for k +xJMNxpr88wI-00183-00044608-00044774 sufficiently large and that is the +xJMNxpr88wI-00184-00044775-00044983 conclusion of the theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00185-00044984-00045062 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00186-00045063-00045230 of course argument if it works for a +xJMNxpr88wI-00187-00045231-00045423 certain row it will start it will work +xJMNxpr88wI-00188-00045424-00045599 for smaller rows +xJMNxpr88wI-00189-00045600-00045823 ok or if you take smaller radii it will +xJMNxpr88wI-00190-00045824-00045951 work +xJMNxpr88wI-00191-00045952-00046423 so ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00192-00046424-00046518 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00193-00046519-00046767 so this is m naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00194-00046768-00046935 implies that +xJMNxpr88wI-00195-00046936-00047183 m k is equal to m naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00196-00047184-00047327 for +xJMNxpr88wI-00197-00047328-00047630 large k +xJMNxpr88wI-00198-00047631-00047727 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00199-00047728-00047967 and of course diagrammatically +xJMNxpr88wI-00200-00047968-00048207 diagrammatically what this means is that +xJMNxpr88wI-00201-00048208-00048462 you see if z naught is a point here +xJMNxpr88wI-00202-00048463-00048830 where you have a 0 of f +xJMNxpr88wI-00203-00048831-00048983 this is the +xJMNxpr88wI-00204-00048984-00049151 disc centered at +xJMNxpr88wI-00205-00049152-00049358 z naught radius row +xJMNxpr88wI-00206-00049359-00049495 then you can find +xJMNxpr88wI-00207-00049496-00049702 ah all these zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00208-00049703-00049839 of +xJMNxpr88wI-00209-00049840-00050223 these are zeros of +xJMNxpr88wI-00210-00050224-00050623 of f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00211-00050624-00050902 and all these zeros they converge to z +xJMNxpr88wI-00212-00050903-00051238 naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00213-00051239-00051446 as you make rho smaller +xJMNxpr88wI-00214-00051447-00051623 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00215-00051624-00051782 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00216-00051783-00051975 now +xJMNxpr88wI-00217-00051976-00052150 what i wanted to +xJMNxpr88wI-00218-00052151-00052319 discuss is +xJMNxpr88wI-00219-00052320-00052494 the two things i want to discuss one is +xJMNxpr88wI-00220-00052495-00052615 that there is +xJMNxpr88wI-00221-00052616-00052847 another proof that you can give +xJMNxpr88wI-00222-00052848-00053126 which actually uses rochester's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00223-00053127-00053282 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00224-00053283-00053526 and then i also want to discuss about +xJMNxpr88wI-00225-00053527-00053735 the application +xJMNxpr88wI-00226-00053736-00053830 of +xJMNxpr88wI-00227-00053832-00054071 the application which says that +xJMNxpr88wI-00228-00054072-00054230 if you take a +xJMNxpr88wI-00229-00054232-00054359 normal +xJMNxpr88wI-00230-00054360-00054550 limit of univalent functions and the +xJMNxpr88wI-00231-00054551-00054750 limit is non-constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00232-00054751-00054959 then the limit is the limiting function +xJMNxpr88wI-00233-00054960-00055087 is again univalent where of course +xJMNxpr88wI-00234-00055088-00055319 univalent means one to one so so let me +xJMNxpr88wI-00235-00055320-00055566 let me first do that so so let me look +xJMNxpr88wI-00236-00055567-00055911 at this application again +xJMNxpr88wI-00237-00055912-00056038 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00238-00056039-00056175 if +xJMNxpr88wI-00239-00056176-00056430 f k converges to f +xJMNxpr88wI-00240-00056432-00056711 normally +xJMNxpr88wI-00241-00056712-00056894 and each +xJMNxpr88wI-00242-00056895-00057159 ah each of k +xJMNxpr88wI-00243-00057160-00057519 is univalent +xJMNxpr88wI-00244-00057520-00057687 on d +xJMNxpr88wI-00245-00057688-00057911 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00246-00057912-00058479 f is either constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00247-00058479-00058847 or univariant +xJMNxpr88wI-00248-00058848-00059150 on t but of course univalent means one +xJMNxpr88wI-00249-00059151-00059742 to one +xJMNxpr88wI-00250-00059744-00060230 which is also called as injected +xJMNxpr88wI-00251-00060232-00060311 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00252-00060312-00060511 so this is the this is an application of +xJMNxpr88wI-00253-00060512-00060687 khurvich's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00254-00060688-00060775 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00255-00060776-00061215 i just wanted to +xJMNxpr88wI-00256-00061216-00061726 look at this proof +xJMNxpr88wI-00257-00061727-00061847 see +xJMNxpr88wI-00258-00061848-00062071 so i i know that each f k is one one i +xJMNxpr88wI-00259-00062072-00062254 want to show that f is one one and of +xJMNxpr88wI-00260-00062255-00062503 course i uh +xJMNxpr88wI-00261-00062504-00062654 the the the +xJMNxpr88wI-00262-00062655-00062871 the result says that f is one one +xJMNxpr88wI-00263-00062872-00063038 provided f is not constant so you assume +xJMNxpr88wI-00264-00063039-00063206 f is not constant ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00265-00063207-00063854 assume f is not constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00266-00063855-00064047 so you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00267-00064048-00064166 i want you to +xJMNxpr88wI-00268-00064167-00064271 remember +xJMNxpr88wI-00269-00064272-00064494 that the moment i say that +xJMNxpr88wI-00270-00064495-00064694 f has a zero of order m +xJMNxpr88wI-00271-00064695-00064854 finite order +xJMNxpr88wI-00272-00064855-00065166 ah i am assuming that ah f is not +xJMNxpr88wI-00273-00065167-00065279 constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00274-00065279-00065567 ok because if f is constant then f has +xJMNxpr88wI-00275-00065568-00065719 to be identically zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00276-00065720-00066047 and if f is identically zero then +xJMNxpr88wI-00277-00066048-00066382 basically you do not +xJMNxpr88wI-00278-00066383-00066567 you you will not get a +xJMNxpr88wI-00279-00066568-00066703 you will you will not be able to find +xJMNxpr88wI-00280-00066704-00066831 the disk +xJMNxpr88wI-00281-00066832-00067191 surrounding a 0 +xJMNxpr88wI-00282-00067192-00067359 but there are no other 0s +xJMNxpr88wI-00283-00067360-00067631 because every point is zero okay so you +xJMNxpr88wI-00284-00067632-00067838 must understand that this hurwitz +xJMNxpr88wI-00285-00067839-00067967 theorem applies +xJMNxpr88wI-00286-00067968-00068167 only to a non-constant ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00287-00068168-00068423 it applies only to the case when +xJMNxpr88wI-00288-00068424-00068655 f is ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00289-00068656-00068894 you know ah non constant analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00290-00068895-00068982 function +xJMNxpr88wI-00291-00068983-00069167 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00292-00069168-00069455 so even the theorem on ah the set of +xJMNxpr88wI-00293-00069456-00069599 zeros of an analytic function being +xJMNxpr88wI-00294-00069600-00069719 isolated +xJMNxpr88wI-00295-00069720-00069894 assumes that you are working with the +xJMNxpr88wI-00296-00069895-00070143 analytic function which is not constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00297-00070144-00070367 or non constant analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-00298-00070368-00070694 the zeros are isolated okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00299-00070695-00070919 so non constant is always there at the +xJMNxpr88wI-00300-00070920-00071055 at the back of it +xJMNxpr88wI-00301-00071056-00071303 back of all this ok so so assume f is +xJMNxpr88wI-00302-00071304-00071415 not constant but it is important there +xJMNxpr88wI-00303-00071416-00071567 is a reason why i am +xJMNxpr88wI-00304-00071568-00071743 i am insisting +xJMNxpr88wI-00305-00071744-00071879 sometimes we might +xJMNxpr88wI-00306-00071880-00072055 be careless enough not to write it or +xJMNxpr88wI-00307-00072056-00072247 insist but it is very important it is +xJMNxpr88wI-00308-00072248-00072406 there in the background +xJMNxpr88wI-00309-00072407-00072615 so assume f is not constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00310-00072616-00072894 suppose ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00311-00072895-00073279 f of e z one is equal to f of z two +xJMNxpr88wI-00312-00073280-00073623 is equal to omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00313-00073624-00073775 ah i will have to show +xJMNxpr88wI-00314-00073776-00073959 that ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00315-00073960-00074119 for z one +xJMNxpr88wI-00316-00074120-00074382 z two in d +xJMNxpr88wI-00317-00074383-00074559 will have to show that ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00318-00074560-00074735 z one equal to z two +xJMNxpr88wI-00319-00074736-00074887 and what do i do i apply four which is +xJMNxpr88wI-00320-00074888-00075119 theorem so here is my z one +xJMNxpr88wI-00321-00075120-00075350 and you know there is a row +xJMNxpr88wI-00322-00075351-00075647 and there is a disc surrounding row +xJMNxpr88wI-00323-00075648-00075887 so that i can find ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00324-00075888-00076015 zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00325-00076016-00076094 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00326-00076095-00076431 zeta i can find a zero zeta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00327-00076432-00076671 of ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00328-00076672-00076782 of +xJMNxpr88wI-00329-00076783-00077175 zeta is zero of +xJMNxpr88wI-00330-00077176-00077511 f of z minus omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00331-00077512-00077750 ok so what you must understand is f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00332-00077751-00078047 converges to f so f k of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00333-00078048-00078199 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00334-00078200-00078271 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00335-00078272-00078415 i should be f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00336-00078416-00078687 so f k of z converges to f of sets so f +xJMNxpr88wI-00337-00078688-00078823 k of z minus +xJMNxpr88wI-00338-00078824-00078975 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00339-00078976-00079159 omega naught conju converges to f minus +xJMNxpr88wI-00340-00079160-00079367 omega naught ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00341-00079368-00079582 and its again normal convergence so i am +xJMNxpr88wI-00342-00079583-00079855 applying hurwitz's theorem to not to f +xJMNxpr88wI-00343-00079856-00080126 not to this but i am applying it to the +xJMNxpr88wI-00344-00080127-00080238 sequence with +xJMNxpr88wI-00345-00080239-00080391 ah minus +xJMNxpr88wI-00346-00080392-00080623 omega naught added on both sides +xJMNxpr88wI-00347-00080624-00080735 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00348-00080736-00080967 ok so +xJMNxpr88wI-00349-00080968-00081282 so i can find a 0 +xJMNxpr88wI-00350-00081283-00081559 0 zeta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00351-00081560-00081831 of f k of z minus w naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00352-00081832-00082111 and of course you know ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00353-00082112-00082382 i i let me write it as k i +xJMNxpr88wI-00354-00082383-00082518 for +xJMNxpr88wI-00355-00082519-00082655 k i +xJMNxpr88wI-00356-00082656-00083271 sufficient sufficiently large +xJMNxpr88wI-00357-00083272-00083655 and you know the same way ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00358-00083656-00083855 so there is also +xJMNxpr88wI-00359-00083856-00084079 the point z2 +xJMNxpr88wI-00360-00084080-00084431 i again take +xJMNxpr88wI-00361-00084432-00084782 a similar disc of radius rho +xJMNxpr88wI-00362-00084783-00085118 of course you know ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00363-00085119-00085367 this row here is chosen so that z z +xJMNxpr88wI-00364-00085368-00085662 naught z one is the only zero of f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00365-00085663-00085782 minus +xJMNxpr88wI-00366-00085783-00086023 w naught in in this disk +xJMNxpr88wI-00367-00086024-00086382 and here also +xJMNxpr88wI-00368-00086383-00086575 i am trying to choose row of the same +xJMNxpr88wI-00369-00086576-00086743 type +xJMNxpr88wI-00370-00086744-00087031 that is one in which ah in this disk z +xJMNxpr88wI-00371-00087032-00087326 two is only zero of f of z minus omega +xJMNxpr88wI-00372-00087327-00087438 naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00373-00087439-00087575 but what i want to tell you is that to +xJMNxpr88wI-00374-00087576-00087750 begin with this row one these rows may +xJMNxpr88wI-00375-00087751-00087918 be different this may be row one that +xJMNxpr88wI-00376-00087919-00088062 may be some row two but then i am saying +xJMNxpr88wI-00377-00088063-00088238 take the minimum +xJMNxpr88wI-00378-00088239-00088511 if you want take the minimum row +xJMNxpr88wI-00379-00088512-00088655 and and +xJMNxpr88wI-00380-00088656-00088894 and do it for the minimum value of row +xJMNxpr88wI-00381-00088895-00089006 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00382-00089007-00089294 and so that row is the minimum +xJMNxpr88wI-00383-00089295-00089423 value +xJMNxpr88wI-00384-00089424-00089735 okay and what you do is here again +xJMNxpr88wI-00385-00089736-00089879 hurricanes theorem will tell you that i +xJMNxpr88wI-00386-00089880-00089967 will get +xJMNxpr88wI-00387-00089968-00090159 an eta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00388-00090160-00090415 so i will get neta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00389-00090416-00090615 zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00390-00090616-00090750 of +xJMNxpr88wI-00391-00090751-00091038 ah f of k i +xJMNxpr88wI-00392-00091039-00091271 of z minus omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00393-00091272-00091438 for +xJMNxpr88wI-00394-00091439-00092038 k i sufficiently large +xJMNxpr88wI-00395-00092039-00092182 and you see the +xJMNxpr88wI-00396-00092183-00092335 the little point to note is that i am +xJMNxpr88wI-00397-00092336-00092535 choosing the same k i +xJMNxpr88wI-00398-00092536-00092855 ok this this k i that i +xJMNxpr88wI-00399-00092856-00092999 got for this +xJMNxpr88wI-00400-00093000-00093279 may be ah different from that k i ok so +xJMNxpr88wI-00401-00093280-00093503 in fact i should call this as +xJMNxpr88wI-00402-00093504-00093838 if you want k i and k prime i +xJMNxpr88wI-00403-00093839-00094038 but then it holds for +xJMNxpr88wI-00404-00094039-00094271 all values beyond certain stage then i +xJMNxpr88wI-00405-00094272-00094511 can take the maximum of those two and +xJMNxpr88wI-00406-00094512-00094735 call that as k i ok so that is the +xJMNxpr88wI-00407-00094736-00094903 adjustment i make so what you must +xJMNxpr88wI-00408-00094904-00095079 understand is that this row +xJMNxpr88wI-00409-00095080-00095343 in principle i should write as rho one +xJMNxpr88wI-00410-00095344-00095606 and that i should write as rho 2 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00411-00095607-00095838 and this i should write as k i and that +xJMNxpr88wI-00412-00095839-00096023 i should write as k i prime +xJMNxpr88wI-00413-00096024-00096118 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00414-00096119-00096231 but +xJMNxpr88wI-00415-00096232-00096367 i can choose +xJMNxpr88wI-00416-00096368-00096638 the maximum of k i and k i prime and +xJMNxpr88wI-00417-00096639-00096838 replace that k i +xJMNxpr88wI-00418-00096839-00097087 call that as ki okay and i can take the +xJMNxpr88wI-00419-00097088-00097294 minimum of row one and row two and call +xJMNxpr88wI-00420-00097295-00097631 that as rho ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00421-00097632-00097750 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00422-00097751-00097926 then you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00423-00097927-00098135 what you can do is once you have done it +xJMNxpr88wI-00424-00098136-00098238 for row +xJMNxpr88wI-00425-00098239-00098487 you can next do it +xJMNxpr88wI-00426-00098488-00098679 so so you know ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00427-00098680-00098894 maybe maybe i will first call it as a +xJMNxpr88wI-00428-00098895-00099094 let me first call this as +xJMNxpr88wI-00429-00099095-00099231 let me do it for +xJMNxpr88wI-00430-00099232-00099503 ok so let me do the following thing +xJMNxpr88wI-00431-00099504-00100031 here instead of rho let me put rho by i +xJMNxpr88wI-00432-00100032-00100311 instead of rho let me put rho by i +xJMNxpr88wI-00433-00100312-00100591 right +xJMNxpr88wI-00434-00100592-00100687 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00435-00100688-00100847 so the point is that the reason why i am +xJMNxpr88wI-00436-00100848-00101038 putting rho by i is that +xJMNxpr88wI-00437-00101039-00101174 you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00438-00101175-00101311 the distance between +xJMNxpr88wI-00439-00101312-00101494 zeta i and z 1 +xJMNxpr88wI-00440-00101495-00101615 is +xJMNxpr88wI-00441-00101616-00101767 less than +xJMNxpr88wI-00442-00101768-00101879 rho by i +xJMNxpr88wI-00443-00101880-00102079 which as i tends to infinity goes to 0 +xJMNxpr88wI-00444-00102080-00102238 which tells you that the zeta is will +xJMNxpr88wI-00445-00102239-00102382 converge to z one +xJMNxpr88wI-00446-00102383-00102686 and the eta is will converge to z two ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00447-00102688-00102782 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00448-00102783-00102894 i can do +xJMNxpr88wI-00449-00102895-00103134 ah i can take this ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00450-00103135-00103486 these rho rho by is ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00451-00103488-00103654 and you must think that as i increase +xJMNxpr88wI-00452-00103655-00104054 this i ok then the for example if i put +xJMNxpr88wI-00453-00104055-00104358 i equal to 1 it is just row if i put i +xJMNxpr88wI-00454-00104359-00104639 equal to its rho by 2 ok then it becomes +xJMNxpr88wI-00455-00104640-00104839 rho by 3 you get smaller and smaller and +xJMNxpr88wI-00456-00104840-00105015 smaller +xJMNxpr88wI-00457-00105016-00105375 discs okay so with with this kind of +xJMNxpr88wI-00458-00105376-00105734 thing what you get is ah the following +xJMNxpr88wI-00459-00105735-00105951 you get that ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00460-00105952-00106063 ok so i +xJMNxpr88wI-00461-00106064-00106207 should i should try to rewrite this as +xJMNxpr88wI-00462-00106208-00106334 zeta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00463-00106335-00106775 so you see zeta i ah converges to +xJMNxpr88wI-00464-00106776-00106910 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00465-00106911-00107039 z one +xJMNxpr88wI-00466-00107040-00107343 ah eta i also converges to so it +xJMNxpr88wI-00467-00107344-00107510 converges to z two +xJMNxpr88wI-00468-00107511-00107615 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00469-00107616-00107758 f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00470-00107759-00107878 i +xJMNxpr88wI-00471-00107879-00108054 of zeta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00472-00108055-00108327 is is actually w zero which is equal to +xJMNxpr88wI-00473-00108328-00108478 f k i +xJMNxpr88wI-00474-00108479-00108607 of eta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00475-00108608-00108951 because zeta i is a zero of f k i of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00476-00108952-00109295 minus w naught and is also zero eta i is +xJMNxpr88wI-00477-00109296-00109447 also zero of f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00478-00109448-00109551 i of +xJMNxpr88wI-00479-00109552-00109719 z minus w naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00480-00109720-00109975 and but then f k i is given to be +xJMNxpr88wI-00481-00109976-00110134 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00482-00110135-00110454 one to one so this will tell you that ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00483-00110455-00110710 zeta i is equal to eta i +xJMNxpr88wI-00484-00110711-00111047 eta i ah since +xJMNxpr88wI-00485-00111048-00111327 fki +xJMNxpr88wI-00486-00111328-00111654 univalent +xJMNxpr88wI-00487-00111655-00111815 and this implies +xJMNxpr88wI-00488-00111816-00112247 taking limits +xJMNxpr88wI-00489-00112248-00112375 that +xJMNxpr88wI-00490-00112376-00112486 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00491-00112488-00112727 limit zeta is limit net i but that that +xJMNxpr88wI-00492-00112728-00112975 means you will get z one equal to zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00493-00112976-00113231 and that finishes the proof ok so what i +xJMNxpr88wI-00494-00113232-00113366 want to tell you is that +xJMNxpr88wI-00495-00113367-00113566 ah your +xJMNxpr88wI-00496-00113567-00113734 you have to do be a little careful in +xJMNxpr88wI-00497-00113735-00114127 choosing the the zeta is in eta s ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00498-00114128-00114334 and you so you should so basically you +xJMNxpr88wI-00499-00114335-00114439 should +xJMNxpr88wI-00500-00114440-00114590 choose a set of +xJMNxpr88wI-00501-00114591-00114854 sequence of zeta s which converges to z +xJMNxpr88wI-00502-00114855-00115047 one and the sequence of eta is which +xJMNxpr88wI-00503-00115048-00115366 converges to z two +xJMNxpr88wI-00504-00115367-00115615 as i tends to infinity ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00505-00115616-00115695 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00506-00115696-00115878 that is the proof +xJMNxpr88wI-00507-00115879-00116278 now ah what i want to discuss next is ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00508-00116279-00116495 another proof of furwitz's theorem which +xJMNxpr88wI-00509-00116496-00116807 is which actually uses roshes theorem ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00510-00116808-00117166 so so you so +xJMNxpr88wI-00511-00117167-00117327 so recall +xJMNxpr88wI-00512-00117328-00117734 what what was what was roshi's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00513-00117735-00117878 c rose's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00514-00117879-00118047 basically says that +xJMNxpr88wI-00515-00118048-00118158 if you have +xJMNxpr88wI-00516-00118159-00118286 the number of zeros of an analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00517-00118288-00118375 function +xJMNxpr88wI-00518-00118376-00118607 in a simple closed inside a simple +xJMNxpr88wI-00519-00118608-00118799 closed curve +xJMNxpr88wI-00520-00118800-00118966 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00521-00118967-00119127 is not going to change if you add the +xJMNxpr88wI-00522-00119128-00119247 analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-00523-00119248-00119447 ah another ionic function +xJMNxpr88wI-00524-00119448-00119607 which is a smaller function on the +xJMNxpr88wI-00525-00119608-00120134 boundary ok so let me write that so let +xJMNxpr88wI-00526-00120135-00120295 l of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00527-00120296-00120407 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00528-00120408-00120663 b of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00529-00120664-00120983 be analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00530-00120983-00121134 on ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00531-00121135-00121278 d union +xJMNxpr88wI-00532-00121279-00121510 ah dou d +xJMNxpr88wI-00533-00121511-00121790 where ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00534-00121791-00121883 d +xJMNxpr88wI-00535-00121883-00122254 is bounded +xJMNxpr88wI-00536-00122255-00122390 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00537-00122391-00122534 doe d +xJMNxpr88wI-00538-00122535-00122614 is +xJMNxpr88wI-00539-00122615-00122695 if +xJMNxpr88wI-00540-00122696-00123278 a +xJMNxpr88wI-00541-00123279-00123710 is p is is a contour +xJMNxpr88wI-00542-00123711-00124086 ok so its a piecewise smooth +xJMNxpr88wI-00543-00124088-00124334 contour +xJMNxpr88wI-00544-00124335-00124543 and the function the both functions so l +xJMNxpr88wI-00545-00124544-00124686 is supposed to be thought of as the +xJMNxpr88wI-00546-00124688-00124927 little function b thought of +xJMNxpr88wI-00547-00124928-00125063 to be thought of as a bigger function +xJMNxpr88wI-00548-00125064-00125190 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00549-00125191-00125383 suppose +xJMNxpr88wI-00550-00125383-00125583 that the little function +xJMNxpr88wI-00551-00125583-00125783 is lesser than the bigger function in +xJMNxpr88wI-00552-00125783-00125951 modulus +xJMNxpr88wI-00553-00125952-00126431 strictly lesser than on the boundary +xJMNxpr88wI-00554-00126432-00126519 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00555-00126520-00126671 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00556-00126672-00127054 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00557-00127055-00127247 b of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00558-00127248-00127407 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00559-00127408-00127519 b of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00560-00127520-00127686 plus l of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00561-00127688-00127871 have +xJMNxpr88wI-00562-00127872-00128607 the same number of zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00563-00128608-00128854 inside +xJMNxpr88wI-00564-00128855-00129047 d +xJMNxpr88wI-00565-00129048-00129119 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00566-00129120-00129431 this is the this is rochester +xJMNxpr88wI-00567-00129432-00129566 where you think of +xJMNxpr88wI-00568-00129567-00129719 so what it says is the number of zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00569-00129720-00129895 of b z +xJMNxpr88wI-00570-00129896-00130047 is the same as number of +xJMNxpr88wI-00571-00130048-00130366 zeros of b z plus a l z now that b z +xJMNxpr88wI-00572-00130367-00130527 plus l z is thought of as a small +xJMNxpr88wI-00573-00130528-00130839 perturbation of b because you have added +xJMNxpr88wI-00574-00130840-00130999 the error term that you have added is l +xJMNxpr88wI-00575-00131000-00131111 of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00576-00131112-00131278 which is analytic of course but the +xJMNxpr88wI-00577-00131279-00131487 point is that l of z is strictly smaller +xJMNxpr88wI-00578-00131488-00131735 than b of z in magnitude on the boundary +xJMNxpr88wI-00579-00131736-00131966 okay so this is as +xJMNxpr88wI-00580-00131967-00132143 if you remember we proved this very +xJMNxpr88wI-00581-00132144-00132366 easily using the argument principle but +xJMNxpr88wI-00582-00132367-00132551 the point is this also yields a +xJMNxpr88wI-00583-00132552-00132839 beautiful proof of urbitz's theorem ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00584-00132840-00132943 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00585-00132944-00133159 how how so the reason why i am doing +xJMNxpr88wI-00586-00133160-00133471 this is +xJMNxpr88wI-00587-00133472-00133647 this +xJMNxpr88wI-00588-00133648-00133823 this discussion of +xJMNxpr88wI-00589-00133824-00133919 you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00590-00133920-00134095 zeros of analytic functions essentially +xJMNxpr88wI-00591-00134096-00134254 uses residual theorem i mean argument +xJMNxpr88wI-00592-00134255-00134351 principle +xJMNxpr88wI-00593-00134352-00134559 and all these ideas are interrelated ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00594-00134560-00134863 so you should understand how each idea +xJMNxpr88wI-00595-00134864-00134966 you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00596-00134967-00135271 is is kind of connected to another okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00597-00135272-00135423 so you see +xJMNxpr88wI-00598-00135424-00135502 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00599-00135503-00135607 proof +xJMNxpr88wI-00600-00135608-00135759 proof of +xJMNxpr88wI-00601-00135760-00136502 kurmitz's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00602-00136503-00136727 using +xJMNxpr88wI-00603-00136728-00137495 process theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00604-00137496-00137735 so you see its a ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00605-00137736-00137895 suppose i want to prove this using +xJMNxpr88wI-00606-00137896-00138095 pushes theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00607-00138096-00138207 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00608-00138208-00138399 it is very easy to guess what you have +xJMNxpr88wI-00609-00138400-00138559 to do you see +xJMNxpr88wI-00610-00138560-00138727 what is what does rush is there what +xJMNxpr88wI-00611-00138728-00138911 does ruby's theorem actually want to say +xJMNxpr88wI-00612-00138912-00139039 it wants to say +xJMNxpr88wI-00613-00139040-00139175 that you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00614-00139176-00139375 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00615-00139376-00139663 in a disc like this +xJMNxpr88wI-00616-00139664-00139943 f and f k have the same number of zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00617-00139944-00140087 that is what you want to say +xJMNxpr88wI-00618-00140088-00140519 so you see so it is very clear that +xJMNxpr88wI-00619-00140520-00140790 you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00620-00140791-00140975 you have to take one from one of the big +xJMNxpr88wI-00621-00140976-00141254 functions +xJMNxpr88wI-00622-00141255-00141502 the big function has to be f +xJMNxpr88wI-00623-00141503-00141678 okay and this +xJMNxpr88wI-00624-00141679-00141854 and the small function should be chosen +xJMNxpr88wI-00625-00141855-00141959 so that +xJMNxpr88wI-00626-00141960-00142151 ah when you add it to the big function +xJMNxpr88wI-00627-00142152-00142343 you get f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00628-00142344-00142471 see the +xJMNxpr88wI-00629-00142472-00142726 the the roshes theorem says that the big +xJMNxpr88wI-00630-00142727-00142902 function +xJMNxpr88wI-00631-00142903-00143247 ah and +xJMNxpr88wI-00632-00143248-00143439 the big big function plus a smaller +xJMNxpr88wI-00633-00143440-00143583 function they have the same number of +xJMNxpr88wI-00634-00143584-00143687 zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00635-00143688-00143814 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00636-00143815-00144023 now if you want to +xJMNxpr88wI-00637-00144024-00144111 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00638-00144112-00144302 get this from that +xJMNxpr88wI-00639-00144303-00144575 then you sh but here i want +xJMNxpr88wI-00640-00144576-00144799 f and fk +xJMNxpr88wI-00641-00144800-00144943 to be +xJMNxpr88wI-00642-00144944-00145095 the two functions for which the number +xJMNxpr88wI-00643-00145096-00145239 of zeros are the same +xJMNxpr88wI-00644-00145240-00145407 beyond a certain stage +xJMNxpr88wI-00645-00145408-00145654 so the big function has to be f +xJMNxpr88wI-00646-00145655-00145831 and the big function plus a small +xJMNxpr88wI-00647-00145832-00146071 perturbation must be f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00648-00146072-00146175 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00649-00146176-00146439 so the small perturbation has to be f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00650-00146440-00146551 minus f +xJMNxpr88wI-00651-00146552-00146854 it is very simple to see that so so what +xJMNxpr88wI-00652-00146855-00147135 you do is put +xJMNxpr88wI-00653-00147136-00147326 take +xJMNxpr88wI-00654-00147327-00147566 row so that +xJMNxpr88wI-00655-00147567-00147919 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00656-00147920-00148071 mod +xJMNxpr88wI-00657-00148072-00148319 so that there +xJMNxpr88wI-00658-00148320-00148407 is +xJMNxpr88wI-00659-00148408-00148483 no +xJMNxpr88wI-00660-00148484-00148807 zero of f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00661-00148808-00148951 other +xJMNxpr88wI-00662-00148952-00149183 than +xJMNxpr88wI-00663-00149184-00149311 z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00664-00149312-00149575 in +xJMNxpr88wI-00665-00149576-00149790 well +xJMNxpr88wI-00666-00149791-00149983 0 less than or equal to mod z minus z +xJMNxpr88wI-00667-00149984-00150071 naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00668-00150072-00150254 less than or equal to rho +xJMNxpr88wI-00669-00150255-00150383 choose such a +xJMNxpr88wI-00670-00150384-00150647 ah choose such a row of course as i told +xJMNxpr88wI-00671-00150648-00150814 you this is possible because +xJMNxpr88wI-00672-00150815-00151183 ah you are assuming that f is analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00673-00151184-00151454 i mean you have that f is analytic ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00674-00151455-00151559 that is because +xJMNxpr88wI-00675-00151560-00151719 f is a normal limit of analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00676-00151720-00151814 functions +xJMNxpr88wI-00677-00151815-00151887 right +xJMNxpr88wI-00678-00151888-00152159 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00679-00152160-00152271 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00680-00152272-00152414 put +xJMNxpr88wI-00681-00152415-00152511 a +xJMNxpr88wI-00682-00152512-00152654 big function +xJMNxpr88wI-00683-00152655-00152895 to be f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00684-00152896-00153071 little function +xJMNxpr88wI-00685-00153072-00153183 to be +xJMNxpr88wI-00686-00153184-00153343 f k of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00687-00153344-00153551 minus f of c +xJMNxpr88wI-00688-00153552-00153647 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00689-00153648-00153814 then you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00690-00153815-00153990 of course if i add the two +xJMNxpr88wI-00691-00153991-00154359 i get f k okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00692-00154360-00154447 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00693-00154448-00154831 of course to apply ah rosh's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00694-00154832-00154975 i am i am +xJMNxpr88wI-00695-00154976-00155166 the the the domain on which i am +xJMNxpr88wI-00696-00155167-00155351 applying applying roush's theorem is +xJMNxpr88wI-00697-00155352-00155483 this +xJMNxpr88wI-00698-00155484-00155726 disk is this disc +xJMNxpr88wI-00699-00155727-00155959 and the boundary is just the +xJMNxpr88wI-00700-00155960-00156239 boundary circle ok so i am applying +xJMNxpr88wI-00701-00156240-00156631 roush's theorem here +xJMNxpr88wI-00702-00156632-00156799 ok i am just applying rouge's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00703-00156800-00157007 here +xJMNxpr88wI-00704-00157008-00157175 all right to the little function in the +xJMNxpr88wI-00705-00157176-00157502 big function +xJMNxpr88wI-00706-00157503-00157590 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00707-00157591-00157790 i will get that the big function which +xJMNxpr88wI-00708-00157791-00157902 is f +xJMNxpr88wI-00709-00157903-00158126 and the sum of the big function the +xJMNxpr88wI-00710-00158127-00158295 little function which is f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00711-00158296-00158566 they will have the same number of zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00712-00158567-00158671 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00713-00158672-00158902 provided the little function is really +xJMNxpr88wI-00714-00158903-00159119 little than the big +xJMNxpr88wI-00715-00159120-00159366 on the boundary okay but +xJMNxpr88wI-00716-00159367-00159454 you see +xJMNxpr88wI-00717-00159455-00159678 its its +xJMNxpr88wI-00718-00159679-00159887 that is something that you can +xJMNxpr88wI-00719-00159888-00160047 that is something that you can easily +xJMNxpr88wI-00720-00160048-00160214 see because you see +xJMNxpr88wI-00721-00160215-00160319 see +xJMNxpr88wI-00722-00160320-00160487 f k of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00723-00160488-00160943 f k converges to f normally +xJMNxpr88wI-00724-00160944-00161175 this implies that you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00725-00161176-00161271 f k +xJMNxpr88wI-00726-00161272-00161519 my f k minus f +xJMNxpr88wI-00727-00161520-00161807 goes to zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00728-00161808-00161999 ok fk minus f goes to zero thats what it +xJMNxpr88wI-00729-00162000-00162511 means and that also normal +xJMNxpr88wI-00730-00162512-00162807 ok and of course in this case normally +xJMNxpr88wI-00731-00162808-00162959 means that +xJMNxpr88wI-00732-00162960-00163247 it will be uniformly in this region +xJMNxpr88wI-00733-00163248-00163543 so so i should say +xJMNxpr88wI-00734-00163544-00163759 so in fact i can rub off this normally +xJMNxpr88wI-00735-00163760-00163847 here +xJMNxpr88wI-00736-00163848-00164495 and simply write uniformly +xJMNxpr88wI-00737-00164496-00165135 in in this +xJMNxpr88wI-00738-00165136-00165495 and this is also uniformly goes to zero +xJMNxpr88wI-00739-00165496-00165807 uniformly +xJMNxpr88wI-00740-00165808-00165919 in +xJMNxpr88wI-00741-00165920-00166143 mod z minus z naught less than or equal +xJMNxpr88wI-00742-00166144-00166231 to +xJMNxpr88wI-00743-00166232-00166383 because the convergence is uniform on +xJMNxpr88wI-00744-00166384-00166638 compact subsets ok and mod z minus z dot +xJMNxpr88wI-00745-00166639-00166766 less than or equal to rho is a compact +xJMNxpr88wI-00746-00166767-00166871 subset +xJMNxpr88wI-00747-00166872-00167063 it is closed and bounded +xJMNxpr88wI-00748-00167064-00167271 so +xJMNxpr88wI-00749-00167272-00167487 but but what does this mean this means +xJMNxpr88wI-00750-00167488-00167751 that +xJMNxpr88wI-00751-00167752-00167823 the +xJMNxpr88wI-00752-00167824-00168038 the modulus of this can be made lesser +xJMNxpr88wI-00753-00168039-00168278 than any small quantity +xJMNxpr88wI-00754-00168279-00168454 that's what it means +xJMNxpr88wI-00755-00168455-00168559 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00756-00168560-00168766 you see +xJMNxpr88wI-00757-00168767-00168871 if +xJMNxpr88wI-00758-00168872-00169071 note that +xJMNxpr88wI-00759-00169072-00169223 that +xJMNxpr88wI-00760-00169224-00169343 f +xJMNxpr88wI-00761-00169344-00169566 mod f +xJMNxpr88wI-00762-00169567-00169878 is is greater than or equal to delta +xJMNxpr88wI-00763-00169879-00170007 on ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00764-00170008-00170326 mod z minus z naught is equal to rho +xJMNxpr88wI-00765-00170327-00170511 ok this is the fact that we also use +xJMNxpr88wI-00766-00170512-00170631 during the proof of four which is +xJMNxpr88wI-00767-00170632-00170814 theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00768-00170815-00171102 because you see more see mod f +xJMNxpr88wI-00769-00171103-00171335 is a continuous function +xJMNxpr88wI-00770-00171336-00171463 okay it is a continuous real valued +xJMNxpr88wI-00771-00171464-00171551 function +xJMNxpr88wI-00772-00171552-00171726 and when define and when you restrict it +xJMNxpr88wI-00773-00171727-00171935 to mod z minus z naught equal to rho mod +xJMNxpr88wI-00774-00171936-00172063 z minus z naught equal to rho is a +xJMNxpr88wI-00775-00172064-00172335 circle centered at z not radius row that +xJMNxpr88wI-00776-00172336-00172438 is compact +xJMNxpr88wI-00777-00172439-00172711 because it is close and bounded ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00778-00172712-00172943 so we have this fact from analysis you +xJMNxpr88wI-00779-00172944-00173151 take a real value continuous real valued +xJMNxpr88wI-00780-00173152-00173438 function if you restrict it to a compact +xJMNxpr88wI-00781-00173439-00173535 set +xJMNxpr88wI-00782-00173536-00173711 then it will be +xJMNxpr88wI-00783-00173712-00173878 uniformly continuous and it will attain +xJMNxpr88wI-00784-00173879-00173999 its bounds +xJMNxpr88wI-00785-00174000-00174263 so in particular mod f will have +xJMNxpr88wI-00786-00174264-00174407 a lower bound it will have an upper +xJMNxpr88wI-00787-00174408-00174614 bound and it will take the lower +xJMNxpr88wI-00788-00174615-00174726 value +xJMNxpr88wI-00789-00174727-00174943 and it will take the upper value also ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00790-00174944-00175166 and delta is the lower value +xJMNxpr88wI-00791-00175167-00175271 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00792-00175272-00175575 on on on this compact set the circle +xJMNxpr88wI-00793-00175576-00175775 boundary circle okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00794-00175776-00176319 and and of course this delta is positive +xJMNxpr88wI-00795-00176320-00176535 that is because mod f is positive +xJMNxpr88wI-00796-00176536-00176702 mod of vanish is only +xJMNxpr88wI-00797-00176703-00176863 at the center +xJMNxpr88wI-00798-00176864-00177078 and it does not manage anywhere else so +xJMNxpr88wI-00799-00177079-00177287 it is on the boundary it is positive +xJMNxpr88wI-00800-00177288-00177407 therefore the minimum value is also +xJMNxpr88wI-00801-00177408-00177535 positive +xJMNxpr88wI-00802-00177536-00177751 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00803-00177752-00177895 and thats because because the minimum +xJMNxpr88wI-00804-00177896-00178166 value is taken by mod f +xJMNxpr88wI-00805-00178167-00178247 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00806-00178248-00178478 and mod f cannot be zero if mod f is +xJMNxpr88wI-00807-00178479-00178638 zero then f is zero and f is not +xJMNxpr88wI-00808-00178639-00178775 supposed to be f is not supposed to +xJMNxpr88wI-00809-00178776-00178887 vanish +xJMNxpr88wI-00810-00178888-00179054 anywhere in that closed disk except at +xJMNxpr88wI-00811-00179055-00179383 the center that is the choice of row +xJMNxpr88wI-00812-00179384-00179471 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00813-00179472-00179847 so mod f is greater than delta but then +xJMNxpr88wI-00814-00179848-00180071 so you know fk minus f converges to 0 +xJMNxpr88wI-00815-00180072-00180343 uniformly means that i can choose a +xJMNxpr88wI-00816-00180344-00180447 you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00817-00180448-00180535 index +xJMNxpr88wI-00818-00180536-00180702 large enough index +xJMNxpr88wI-00819-00180703-00180926 ah n such that for k greater than or +xJMNxpr88wI-00820-00180927-00181023 equal to n +xJMNxpr88wI-00821-00181024-00181271 fk minus f in modulus can be made less +xJMNxpr88wI-00822-00181272-00181414 than delta +xJMNxpr88wI-00823-00181415-00181559 i can do that +xJMNxpr88wI-00824-00181560-00181638 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00825-00181639-00181838 since +xJMNxpr88wI-00826-00181839-00182111 f k minus f +xJMNxpr88wI-00827-00182112-00182671 converges to zero uniformly +xJMNxpr88wI-00828-00182672-00182766 in +xJMNxpr88wI-00829-00182767-00182983 mod z minus z naught less than or equal +xJMNxpr88wI-00830-00182984-00183095 to rho +xJMNxpr88wI-00831-00183096-00183263 we can choose +xJMNxpr88wI-00832-00183264-00183559 so let me continue here +xJMNxpr88wI-00833-00183560-00183719 we can choose +xJMNxpr88wI-00834-00183720-00183959 we can find +xJMNxpr88wI-00835-00183960-00184054 a n +xJMNxpr88wI-00836-00184055-00184166 such that +xJMNxpr88wI-00837-00184167-00184366 k greater than or equal to n +xJMNxpr88wI-00838-00184367-00184583 implies that mod +xJMNxpr88wI-00839-00184584-00184743 f k minus f +xJMNxpr88wI-00840-00184744-00184951 can be made less than delta +xJMNxpr88wI-00841-00184952-00185159 i mean this is just ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00842-00185160-00185399 uniform convergence +xJMNxpr88wI-00843-00185400-00185487 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00844-00185488-00185607 and this is +xJMNxpr88wI-00845-00185608-00185871 i am not writing f k of z minus f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00846-00185872-00186063 because all this is done independent of +xJMNxpr88wI-00847-00186064-00186135 z +xJMNxpr88wI-00848-00186136-00186390 and this independence of on of z is +xJMNxpr88wI-00849-00186391-00186511 exactly +xJMNxpr88wI-00850-00186512-00186766 the uniformness of convergence +xJMNxpr88wI-00851-00186767-00187007 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00852-00187008-00187302 so this n does not depend on set +xJMNxpr88wI-00853-00187303-00187526 it does not depend on what value of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00854-00187527-00187750 you plug in +xJMNxpr88wI-00855-00187751-00188071 where z is in this ah closed disc +xJMNxpr88wI-00856-00188072-00188199 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00857-00188200-00188359 that's the uniformness that i am using +xJMNxpr88wI-00858-00188360-00188438 there +xJMNxpr88wI-00859-00188439-00188583 all right +xJMNxpr88wI-00860-00188584-00188783 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00861-00188784-00188999 but but but you see this is +xJMNxpr88wI-00862-00189000-00189326 but delta is less than or equal to mod f +xJMNxpr88wI-00863-00189327-00189487 so what you get is +xJMNxpr88wI-00864-00189488-00189695 ah you get the modulus of the little +xJMNxpr88wI-00865-00189696-00189799 function +xJMNxpr88wI-00866-00189800-00189950 is strictly less than modulus of the big +xJMNxpr88wI-00867-00189951-00190247 function +xJMNxpr88wI-00868-00190248-00190511 by our choices +xJMNxpr88wI-00869-00190512-00190711 and that is precisely what you need to +xJMNxpr88wI-00870-00190712-00190943 apply rochester +xJMNxpr88wI-00871-00190944-00191935 ok so so by roush's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00872-00191936-00192054 f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00873-00192055-00192263 which is b z +xJMNxpr88wI-00874-00192264-00192407 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00875-00192408-00192599 f k of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00876-00192600-00193095 which is b of z plus l of z +xJMNxpr88wI-00877-00193096-00193959 have the same number of zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00878-00193960-00194063 in +xJMNxpr88wI-00879-00194064-00194247 mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-00880-00194248-00194607 secures them +xJMNxpr88wI-00881-00194608-00194759 for +xJMNxpr88wI-00882-00194760-00194950 k greater than +xJMNxpr88wI-00883-00194951-00195135 and that is exactly +xJMNxpr88wI-00884-00195136-00195287 kuruwsha's theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00885-00195288-00195463 okay so you see you get horizontal +xJMNxpr88wI-00886-00195464-00195550 theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00887-00195551-00195654 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00888-00195655-00195775 as +xJMNxpr88wI-00889-00195776-00196071 as a consequence of rochester +xJMNxpr88wI-00890-00196072-00196295 right +xJMNxpr88wI-00891-00196296-00196407 fine so +xJMNxpr88wI-00892-00196408-00196550 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00893-00196551-00196863 having done this +xJMNxpr88wI-00894-00196864-00197359 what i want to do next is +xJMNxpr88wI-00895-00197360-00197487 i want to go +xJMNxpr88wI-00896-00197488-00197566 to +xJMNxpr88wI-00897-00197567-00197759 a topic which is called as +xJMNxpr88wI-00898-00197760-00197990 i want to go to the topic of +xJMNxpr88wI-00899-00197991-00198295 open mappings ok so i want to prove the +xJMNxpr88wI-00900-00198296-00198519 very important open mapping theorem the +xJMNxpr88wI-00901-00198520-00198743 open mapping theorem says that +xJMNxpr88wI-00902-00198744-00198999 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00903-00199000-00199199 any non constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00904-00199200-00199423 analytic function maps open sets to open +xJMNxpr88wI-00905-00199424-00199511 sets +xJMNxpr88wI-00906-00199512-00199743 ok its a very deep theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00907-00199744-00200119 but the point is that somehow +xJMNxpr88wI-00908-00200120-00200495 the proof of the theorem also involves +xJMNxpr88wI-00909-00200496-00200647 ideas of this type +xJMNxpr88wI-00910-00200648-00200854 it just involves its again about zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-00911-00200855-00201063 of analytic functions +xJMNxpr88wI-00912-00201064-00201143 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00913-00201144-00201390 and it also again literally involves +xJMNxpr88wI-00914-00201391-00201590 the if you want +xJMNxpr88wI-00915-00201591-00201775 you know +xJMNxpr88wI-00916-00201776-00201911 the residue theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00917-00201912-00202023 in the in the form of the argument +xJMNxpr88wI-00918-00202024-00202214 principle ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00919-00202215-00203471 so here is the open mapping theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00920-00203472-00203711 so very its a very deep theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00921-00203712-00203911 very important theorem +xJMNxpr88wI-00922-00203912-00204095 ah if +xJMNxpr88wI-00923-00204096-00204231 f is +xJMNxpr88wI-00924-00204232-00204614 a non constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00925-00204615-00205398 analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-00926-00205400-00205510 on +xJMNxpr88wI-00927-00205511-00205966 domain +xJMNxpr88wI-00928-00205967-00206094 t +xJMNxpr88wI-00929-00206096-00206319 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00930-00206319-00206446 f is +xJMNxpr88wI-00931-00206448-00206934 an open map +xJMNxpr88wI-00932-00206935-00207198 that is +xJMNxpr88wI-00933-00207200-00207294 for +xJMNxpr88wI-00934-00207296-00207694 any open set +xJMNxpr88wI-00935-00207696-00207790 u +xJMNxpr88wI-00936-00207791-00208303 in d +xJMNxpr88wI-00937-00208304-00208582 f of u +xJMNxpr88wI-00938-00208583-00208934 is open +xJMNxpr88wI-00939-00208935-00209046 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00940-00209048-00209206 so this is the open mapping theorem it +xJMNxpr88wI-00941-00209207-00209310 says that +xJMNxpr88wI-00942-00209311-00209558 an a non constant analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-00943-00209559-00209710 if you take the under non constant +xJMNxpr88wI-00944-00209711-00209879 analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-00945-00209880-00210071 if you take the image of an open set +xJMNxpr88wI-00946-00210071-00210287 you will again get an open set ok this +xJMNxpr88wI-00947-00210288-00210623 is a very deep theorem because you see +xJMNxpr88wI-00948-00210623-00210934 you cannot find any counterpart for this +xJMNxpr88wI-00949-00210935-00211031 in +xJMNxpr88wI-00950-00211032-00211206 for example functions of one real +xJMNxpr88wI-00951-00211207-00211351 variable +xJMNxpr88wI-00952-00211352-00211519 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-00953-00211519-00211910 it's it's +xJMNxpr88wI-00954-00211911-00212182 it's rather uh +xJMNxpr88wI-00955-00212183-00212455 i mean it's got given and it's beautiful +xJMNxpr88wI-00956-00212456-00212687 normally you cannot expect a map to take +xJMNxpr88wI-00957-00212688-00212910 open sets to open sets +xJMNxpr88wI-00958-00212911-00213079 which is ah +xJMNxpr88wI-00959-00213080-00213206 which is a very important condition its +xJMNxpr88wI-00960-00213207-00213358 an important condition because +xJMNxpr88wI-00961-00213359-00213503 along with this if you put the condition +xJMNxpr88wI-00962-00213504-00213694 that f is +xJMNxpr88wI-00963-00213696-00213815 one to one +xJMNxpr88wI-00964-00213816-00214103 ok then it means that +xJMNxpr88wI-00965-00214104-00214342 since f is one to one f inverse +xJMNxpr88wI-00966-00214344-00214558 makes sense set theoretically and saying +xJMNxpr88wI-00967-00214559-00214727 that f is open will tell you that f +xJMNxpr88wI-00968-00214728-00214910 inverse is a homium offset +xJMNxpr88wI-00969-00214911-00215087 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00970-00215088-00215382 and +xJMNxpr88wI-00971-00215383-00215551 what it will tell you +xJMNxpr88wI-00972-00215552-00215663 is that +xJMNxpr88wI-00973-00215664-00215782 that is what we are going to see after +xJMNxpr88wI-00974-00215783-00215919 this there is an inverse function +xJMNxpr88wI-00975-00215919-00216006 theorem which will tell you that f +xJMNxpr88wI-00976-00216007-00216215 inverse itself is analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00977-00216216-00216527 okay that is the next step okay so +xJMNxpr88wI-00978-00216528-00216831 put so for all these things +xJMNxpr88wI-00979-00216832-00217006 so the final statement is that if you +xJMNxpr88wI-00980-00217007-00217198 have an injective +xJMNxpr88wI-00981-00217200-00217415 analytic map +xJMNxpr88wI-00982-00217416-00217527 then +xJMNxpr88wI-00983-00217528-00217839 the image of the source domain +xJMNxpr88wI-00984-00217840-00218094 will be an open set +xJMNxpr88wI-00985-00218096-00218391 and f inverse on that open set +xJMNxpr88wI-00986-00218392-00218663 will again be analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00987-00218664-00218879 so that means that f is an analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00988-00218880-00219015 isomorphism +xJMNxpr88wI-00989-00219016-00219263 ok what it tells you is that +xJMNxpr88wI-00990-00219264-00219542 an injective analytic map is a +xJMNxpr88wI-00991-00219544-00219871 isomorphism onto its image which is open +xJMNxpr88wI-00992-00219871-00220063 analytic isomorphism +xJMNxpr88wI-00993-00220064-00220246 and inverse has an inverse which is also +xJMNxpr88wI-00994-00220248-00220358 analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-00995-00220359-00220463 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-00996-00220464-00220710 so the starting point is this +xJMNxpr88wI-00997-00220711-00220894 for even for the inverse to be even +xJMNxpr88wI-00998-00220896-00221046 continuous +xJMNxpr88wI-00999-00221048-00221151 you nee +xJMNxpr88wI-01000-00221152-00221391 the fact that f is open +xJMNxpr88wI-01001-00221392-00221534 helps +xJMNxpr88wI-01002-00221535-00221719 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01003-00221719-00221942 so ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01004-00221944-00222142 yeah so how does one prove this so +xJMNxpr88wI-01005-00222144-00222246 basically +xJMNxpr88wI-01006-00222248-00222351 you know +xJMNxpr88wI-01007-00222352-00222534 we do +xJMNxpr88wI-01008-00222535-00222942 the the idea of proof +xJMNxpr88wI-01009-00222944-00223119 is +xJMNxpr88wI-01010-00223119-00223471 is to count +xJMNxpr88wI-01011-00223471-00224031 the number of times +xJMNxpr88wI-01012-00224032-00224398 f takes +xJMNxpr88wI-01013-00224400-00224615 a value +xJMNxpr88wI-01014-00224616-00224782 omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01015-00224783-00224871 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01016-00224871-00224951 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01017-00224952-00225046 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01018-00225048-00225239 so its again its again the counting +xJMNxpr88wI-01019-00225240-00225482 principle the argument principle +xJMNxpr88wI-01020-00225483-00225655 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01021-00225656-00225751 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01022-00225752-00226494 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01023-00226496-00226942 in fact +xJMNxpr88wI-01024-00226944-00227119 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01025-00227119-00227255 not only +xJMNxpr88wI-01026-00227256-00227398 count the number of times f takes a +xJMNxpr88wI-01027-00227400-00227758 value omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01028-00227759-00227951 in fact you also let this omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01029-00227952-00228151 to vary ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01030-00228152-00228231 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01031-00228232-00228487 so let me explain that so so you see so +xJMNxpr88wI-01032-00228488-00228679 here so let me draw a diagram so here is +xJMNxpr88wI-01033-00228680-00228775 my +xJMNxpr88wI-01034-00228776-00229198 so here is my source complex plane +xJMNxpr88wI-01035-00229200-00229358 and well +xJMNxpr88wI-01036-00229359-00229671 here is some domain +xJMNxpr88wI-01037-00229671-00229767 and +xJMNxpr88wI-01038-00229767-00229871 here is +xJMNxpr88wI-01039-00229871-00230142 a point z naught and here is my function +xJMNxpr88wI-01040-00230144-00230303 f +xJMNxpr88wI-01041-00230304-00230503 f is non constant and +xJMNxpr88wI-01042-00230504-00230767 this is this is of course the +xJMNxpr88wI-01043-00230767-00231271 this is the z plane +xJMNxpr88wI-01044-00231271-00231423 and +xJMNxpr88wI-01045-00231423-00231615 the target plane is the +xJMNxpr88wI-01046-00231616-00231758 is also complex numbers but it is the +xJMNxpr88wI-01047-00231759-00232158 omega plane +xJMNxpr88wI-01048-00232159-00232455 where omega is equal to f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-01049-00232456-00232663 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01050-00232664-00232831 for if it is one real variable you write +xJMNxpr88wI-01051-00232832-00233031 y equal to f of x +xJMNxpr88wI-01052-00233032-00233110 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01053-00233111-00233287 since its one complex variable you write +xJMNxpr88wI-01054-00233288-00233463 now we now write omega is equal to f of +xJMNxpr88wI-01055-00233464-00233558 z +xJMNxpr88wI-01056-00233559-00233663 and +xJMNxpr88wI-01057-00233664-00233910 suppose ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01058-00233911-00234151 you take a value omega naught which is f +xJMNxpr88wI-01059-00234152-00234351 of z +xJMNxpr88wI-01060-00234352-00234575 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01061-00234576-00234663 now +xJMNxpr88wI-01062-00234664-00234806 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01063-00234807-00234942 what one does is +xJMNxpr88wI-01064-00234944-00235231 ah how how will you count +xJMNxpr88wI-01065-00235232-00235471 the number of times f takes the value +xJMNxpr88wI-01066-00235471-00235839 uh omega naught ok so so that means you +xJMNxpr88wI-01067-00235840-00236039 know you have to look your your you you +xJMNxpr88wI-01068-00236040-00236223 have to think of ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01069-00236223-00236534 z naught as a zero of f of z minus omega +xJMNxpr88wI-01070-00236535-00236871 naught okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01071-00236871-00237023 you think of +xJMNxpr88wI-01072-00237023-00237358 you think of ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01073-00237359-00237542 z naught as a zero of +xJMNxpr88wI-01074-00237544-00237719 f of z minus omega naught you see that +xJMNxpr88wI-01075-00237719-00237903 is the idea that we we have been using +xJMNxpr88wI-01076-00237904-00238151 all the time right so +xJMNxpr88wI-01077-00238152-00238431 think of +xJMNxpr88wI-01078-00238432-00238510 of +xJMNxpr88wI-01079-00238511-00238751 omega z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01080-00238752-00238967 as zero +xJMNxpr88wI-01081-00238967-00239063 of +xJMNxpr88wI-01082-00239064-00239527 f of z minus omega0 +xJMNxpr88wI-01083-00239528-00239758 ok and notice that f of z minus omega +xJMNxpr88wI-01084-00239759-00239887 naught is also a non-constant dynamic +xJMNxpr88wI-01085-00239888-00240087 function +xJMNxpr88wI-01086-00240088-00240334 because if f of z minus j omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01087-00240335-00240479 is constant that will tell you that f of +xJMNxpr88wI-01088-00240480-00240623 z is constant but i have assumed f is +xJMNxpr88wI-01089-00240623-00240782 non-constant +xJMNxpr88wI-01090-00240783-00240894 and +xJMNxpr88wI-01091-00240896-00241063 so after all f of z minus omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01092-00241064-00241279 is the analytic function f +xJMNxpr88wI-01093-00241280-00241510 with minus omega naught added to it +xJMNxpr88wI-01094-00241511-00241679 minus omega naught is just a constant +xJMNxpr88wI-01095-00241680-00241806 you have added +xJMNxpr88wI-01096-00241807-00242071 adding a constant to analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-01097-00242071-00242342 continues to keep it analytic ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01098-00242344-00242679 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01099-00242680-00242879 if you want because a constant function +xJMNxpr88wI-01100-00242880-00243079 is trivially analytic ok and the sum of +xJMNxpr88wI-01101-00243080-00243446 analytic functions is again analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-01102-00243448-00243534 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01103-00243535-00243710 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01104-00243711-00244023 so again f of z minus omega naught is a +xJMNxpr88wI-01105-00244023-00244223 non-constant analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-01106-00244223-00244439 and z naught is a zero +xJMNxpr88wI-01107-00244440-00244742 so the number of times it +xJMNxpr88wI-01108-00244744-00244942 assumes the value of z naught is given +xJMNxpr88wI-01109-00244944-00245223 by the argument +xJMNxpr88wI-01110-00245223-00245398 in ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01111-00245400-00245639 in a disk surrounding +xJMNxpr88wI-01112-00245640-00245815 z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01113-00245816-00246175 where there are no +xJMNxpr88wI-01114-00246176-00246342 where there are no more +xJMNxpr88wI-01115-00246344-00246598 zeros other than z naught so what you do +xJMNxpr88wI-01116-00246600-00246751 is that you choose +xJMNxpr88wI-01117-00246752-00247191 you choose a disk +xJMNxpr88wI-01118-00247192-00247430 you choose a disk +xJMNxpr88wI-01119-00247431-00247934 of radius row ok choose row +xJMNxpr88wI-01120-00247935-00248246 ah so in this case +xJMNxpr88wI-01121-00248248-00248463 ok so choose row +xJMNxpr88wI-01122-00248464-00248910 so that +xJMNxpr88wI-01123-00248911-00249030 z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01124-00249031-00249375 is the only zero +xJMNxpr88wI-01125-00249376-00249527 of +xJMNxpr88wI-01126-00249528-00249703 ah f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-01127-00249704-00249919 minus omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01128-00249919-00250103 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01129-00250104-00250367 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01130-00250367-00250455 in +xJMNxpr88wI-01131-00250456-00250567 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01132-00250567-00250758 mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01133-00250759-00250919 less than or equal to +xJMNxpr88wI-01134-00250919-00251110 in this disc centered at z naught radius +xJMNxpr88wI-01135-00251111-00251198 rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01136-00251200-00251446 so z naught is the only zero of f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-01137-00251448-00251639 minus omega naught this you can do +xJMNxpr88wI-01138-00251640-00251742 because +xJMNxpr88wI-01139-00251744-00251839 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01140-00251840-00251967 f of z minus omega naught is a +xJMNxpr88wI-01141-00251967-00252167 non-constant analytic function and the +xJMNxpr88wI-01142-00252167-00252294 zeros of a non-constant analytic +xJMNxpr88wI-01143-00252296-00252503 function are isolated so the zero e z +xJMNxpr88wI-01144-00252504-00252671 naught is isolated +xJMNxpr88wI-01145-00252671-00252839 so you can find a small disk surrounding +xJMNxpr88wI-01146-00252840-00253079 z naught where there are no other zeros +xJMNxpr88wI-01147-00253080-00253246 ok even on +xJMNxpr88wI-01148-00253248-00253382 and you can choose this small enough so +xJMNxpr88wI-01149-00253383-00253510 that there are no zeros on the boundary +xJMNxpr88wI-01150-00253511-00253758 as well on the boundary circle as well +xJMNxpr88wI-01151-00253759-00253871 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01152-00253871-00254127 now +xJMNxpr88wI-01153-00254128-00254398 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01154-00254400-00254510 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01155-00254511-00254630 you see +xJMNxpr88wI-01156-00254631-00254791 so what is the +xJMNxpr88wI-01157-00254792-00255071 number of +xJMNxpr88wI-01158-00255071-00255406 number of times +xJMNxpr88wI-01159-00255407-00255751 f assumes +xJMNxpr88wI-01160-00255752-00256063 the value +xJMNxpr88wI-01161-00256064-00256606 not +xJMNxpr88wI-01162-00256607-00256839 assumes the value omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01163-00256840-00257215 in mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01164-00257216-00257446 less than rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01165-00257448-00257630 how is this ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01166-00257631-00257975 how is this ah given by the +xJMNxpr88wI-01167-00257976-00258255 ah let me call this n sub w naught this +xJMNxpr88wI-01168-00258256-00258494 will be one by two pi i +xJMNxpr88wI-01169-00258496-00258710 integral over mod z minus z naught equal +xJMNxpr88wI-01170-00258711-00258846 to rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01171-00258848-00259134 d log +xJMNxpr88wI-01172-00259135-00259327 f of +xJMNxpr88wI-01173-00259328-00259406 z +xJMNxpr88wI-01174-00259407-00259630 minus w +xJMNxpr88wI-01175-00259631-00259839 this is just the argument principle +xJMNxpr88wI-01176-00259840-00260046 the argument principle tells you that +xJMNxpr88wI-01177-00260048-00260279 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01178-00260280-00260487 d log of something +xJMNxpr88wI-01179-00260488-00260671 if you take and then you integrate over +xJMNxpr88wI-01180-00260671-00260823 a simple closed curve and divide by two +xJMNxpr88wI-01181-00260823-00261023 pi i you will get the number of zeros of +xJMNxpr88wI-01182-00261023-00261255 that inside the closed curve so i will +xJMNxpr88wI-01183-00261256-00261367 get this will actually give me the +xJMNxpr88wI-01184-00261367-00261719 number of zeros of f of z minus w naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01185-00261719-00261998 and they will be exactly +xJMNxpr88wI-01186-00262000-00262215 the number of points +xJMNxpr88wI-01187-00262216-00262463 inside this re in the region +xJMNxpr88wI-01188-00262464-00262599 enclosed by this +xJMNxpr88wI-01189-00262600-00262695 circle +xJMNxpr88wI-01190-00262696-00262895 namely the disk +xJMNxpr88wI-01191-00262896-00263282 centered z not radius rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01192-00263283-00263447 where +xJMNxpr88wI-01193-00263448-00263615 f takes the value +xJMNxpr88wI-01194-00263616-00263927 w naught ok this is just again by +xJMNxpr88wI-01195-00263928-00264682 by the argument principle +xJMNxpr88wI-01196-00264683-00264967 or so which is accounting plus +xJMNxpr88wI-01197-00264968-00265063 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01198-00265064-00265343 so +xJMNxpr88wI-01199-00265344-00265767 so now what you do is you see +xJMNxpr88wI-01200-00265768-00266223 note that +xJMNxpr88wI-01201-00266224-00266319 mod +xJMNxpr88wI-01202-00266320-00266663 f of z minus w +xJMNxpr88wI-01203-00266664-00266871 minus omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01204-00266872-00267015 is ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01205-00267016-00267206 say again greater than or equal to delta +xJMNxpr88wI-01206-00267207-00267399 greater than zero on +xJMNxpr88wI-01207-00267400-00267799 mod z minus z naught ah plus ah on z mod +xJMNxpr88wI-01208-00267800-00268223 minus z minus z not equal to rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01209-00268224-00268358 so this is again the same kind of +xJMNxpr88wI-01210-00268359-00268591 argument that we used earlier +xJMNxpr88wI-01211-00268592-00268815 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01212-00268816-00268943 namely +xJMNxpr88wI-01213-00268944-00269206 ah f z minus w naught does not have any +xJMNxpr88wI-01214-00269207-00269455 zeros on the ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01215-00269456-00269663 the boundary circle +xJMNxpr88wI-01216-00269664-00269887 because in this closed disk the only +xJMNxpr88wI-01217-00269888-00270182 zero f of f z minus w naught is at z +xJMNxpr88wI-01218-00270183-00270367 naught at the center so there are no +xJMNxpr88wI-01219-00270368-00270582 zeros on the boundary circle and the +xJMNxpr88wI-01220-00270583-00270719 boundary circle is close and bounded so +xJMNxpr88wI-01221-00270720-00270991 it is compact and f z and mod f z minus +xJMNxpr88wI-01222-00270992-00271182 w naught is a +xJMNxpr88wI-01223-00271183-00271319 continuous function +xJMNxpr88wI-01224-00271320-00271487 when residual to this compact set it has +xJMNxpr88wI-01225-00271488-00271655 it is uniformly continuous and it will +xJMNxpr88wI-01226-00271656-00271743 have +xJMNxpr88wI-01227-00271744-00271991 a minimum and a maximum value and delta +xJMNxpr88wI-01228-00271992-00272103 is the minimum value and the minimum +xJMNxpr88wI-01229-00272104-00272223 value is positive because it does not +xJMNxpr88wI-01230-00272224-00272310 vanish +xJMNxpr88wI-01231-00272311-00272519 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01232-00272520-00272839 now +xJMNxpr88wI-01233-00272840-00272951 you see +xJMNxpr88wI-01234-00272952-00273151 the trick is +xJMNxpr88wI-01235-00273152-00273295 what you can do +xJMNxpr88wI-01236-00273296-00273375 is +xJMNxpr88wI-01237-00273376-00273687 consider +xJMNxpr88wI-01238-00273688-00273815 any +xJMNxpr88wI-01239-00273816-00273982 omega +xJMNxpr88wI-01240-00273983-00274310 such that +xJMNxpr88wI-01241-00274311-00274455 mod +xJMNxpr88wI-01242-00274456-00274639 omega minus +xJMNxpr88wI-01243-00274640-00274806 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01244-00274807-00274975 omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01245-00274976-00275071 is +xJMNxpr88wI-01246-00275072-00275351 ah less than delta +xJMNxpr88wI-01247-00275352-00275599 ok so you see its the same delta i am +xJMNxpr88wI-01248-00275600-00275743 using +xJMNxpr88wI-01249-00275744-00276015 so what you do is you now take a disc +xJMNxpr88wI-01250-00276016-00276223 centered at omega naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01251-00276224-00276558 and radius delta +xJMNxpr88wI-01252-00276559-00276687 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01253-00276688-00277030 then +xJMNxpr88wI-01254-00277031-00277151 then you know +xJMNxpr88wI-01255-00277152-00277255 i can +xJMNxpr88wI-01256-00277256-00277495 completely replace omega naught in this +xJMNxpr88wI-01257-00277496-00277943 equation by omega +xJMNxpr88wI-01258-00277944-00278158 and that will give me +xJMNxpr88wI-01259-00278159-00278375 the number of times f takes the value +xJMNxpr88wI-01260-00278376-00278767 omega +xJMNxpr88wI-01261-00278768-00279006 in the disk mod z minus z naught less +xJMNxpr88wI-01262-00279007-00279239 than rho so +xJMNxpr88wI-01263-00279240-00279503 define +xJMNxpr88wI-01264-00279504-00279863 n of omega to be one by two pi i +xJMNxpr88wI-01265-00279864-00280055 integral over mod z minus z naught equal +xJMNxpr88wI-01266-00280056-00280391 to rho d log +xJMNxpr88wI-01267-00280392-00280519 f +xJMNxpr88wI-01268-00280520-00280663 ah said +xJMNxpr88wI-01269-00280664-00280847 minus omega +xJMNxpr88wI-01270-00280848-00281039 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01271-00281040-00281158 mind you +xJMNxpr88wI-01272-00281159-00281310 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01273-00281311-00281503 this makes sense because you see what is +xJMNxpr88wI-01274-00281504-00281687 d log f of z +xJMNxpr88wI-01275-00281688-00281951 what is this this is actually +xJMNxpr88wI-01276-00281952-00282047 f +xJMNxpr88wI-01277-00282048-00282319 derivative of this which is f dash of z +xJMNxpr88wI-01278-00282320-00282463 divided by +xJMNxpr88wI-01279-00282464-00282647 f z minus +xJMNxpr88wI-01280-00282648-00282882 w d z this is what it +xJMNxpr88wI-01281-00282883-00283134 is ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01282-00283135-00283295 and mind you +xJMNxpr88wI-01283-00283296-00283406 you see +xJMNxpr88wI-01284-00283407-00283551 the +xJMNxpr88wI-01285-00283552-00283799 f z minus w cannot vanish +xJMNxpr88wI-01286-00283800-00283975 on the boundary +xJMNxpr88wI-01287-00283976-00284079 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01288-00284080-00284239 f z minus w cannot vanish on the +xJMNxpr88wI-01289-00284240-00284463 boundary +xJMNxpr88wI-01290-00284464-00284703 why is that so that is because of this +xJMNxpr88wI-01291-00284704-00284903 choice of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01292-00284904-00284991 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01293-00284992-00285447 the choice of w is that see +xJMNxpr88wI-01294-00285448-00285639 the choice of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01295-00285640-00285854 tells you that the distance from w to w +xJMNxpr88wI-01296-00285855-00286199 naught is less than delta +xJMNxpr88wI-01297-00286200-00286310 whereas +xJMNxpr88wI-01298-00286311-00286527 ah the distance of f set from w naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01299-00286528-00286727 is greater than or equal to delta +xJMNxpr88wI-01300-00286728-00287006 ok so this will tell you that +xJMNxpr88wI-01301-00287007-00287143 f z +xJMNxpr88wI-01302-00287144-00287399 ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01303-00287400-00287679 f said +xJMNxpr88wI-01304-00287680-00288054 the models of f said minus w cannot be +xJMNxpr88wI-01305-00288055-00288191 zero +xJMNxpr88wI-01306-00288192-00288295 therefore +xJMNxpr88wI-01307-00288296-00288382 this +xJMNxpr88wI-01308-00288383-00288482 this is well +xJMNxpr88wI-01309-00288483-00288767 defined this integral is well defined +xJMNxpr88wI-01310-00288768-00288958 and what does it give you it gives you +xJMNxpr88wI-01311-00288959-00289095 the number of times +xJMNxpr88wI-01312-00289096-00289303 the function f +xJMNxpr88wI-01313-00289304-00289503 assumes the value w +xJMNxpr88wI-01314-00289504-00289639 or omega +xJMNxpr88wI-01315-00289640-00289854 in the unit disk i mean in the disk +xJMNxpr88wI-01316-00289855-00290079 centered at z naught radius rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01317-00290080-00290287 so this is +xJMNxpr88wI-01318-00290288-00290703 number of times +xJMNxpr88wI-01319-00290704-00290799 f +xJMNxpr88wI-01320-00290800-00291030 assumes +xJMNxpr88wI-01321-00291031-00291310 the value +xJMNxpr88wI-01322-00291311-00291615 w +xJMNxpr88wI-01323-00291616-00291758 in +xJMNxpr88wI-01324-00291759-00291958 mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01325-00291959-00292127 less than rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01326-00292128-00292351 ok +xJMNxpr88wI-01327-00292352-00292519 this makes sense +xJMNxpr88wI-01328-00292520-00292830 now after having written all this let me +xJMNxpr88wI-01329-00292831-00292934 tell you +xJMNxpr88wI-01330-00292935-00293127 that +xJMNxpr88wI-01331-00293128-00293415 the whole point is +xJMNxpr88wI-01332-00293416-00293599 that +xJMNxpr88wI-01333-00293600-00293871 you see if you think of w as +xJMNxpr88wI-01334-00293872-00294071 now a complex variable +xJMNxpr88wI-01335-00294072-00294310 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01336-00294311-00294463 then this is a function n of w is a +xJMNxpr88wI-01337-00294464-00294630 function of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01338-00294631-00294854 ok the amazing fact is +xJMNxpr88wI-01339-00294855-00295023 but it is amazing but it is very easy to +xJMNxpr88wI-01340-00295024-00295310 prove the amazing fact is that n of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01341-00295311-00295639 is actually an analytic function of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01342-00295640-00295823 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01343-00295824-00295975 it will turn out that n of w is an +xJMNxpr88wI-01344-00295976-00296191 analytic function of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01345-00296192-00296367 okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01346-00296368-00296551 and that will mean +xJMNxpr88wI-01347-00296552-00296967 that +xJMNxpr88wI-01348-00296968-00297175 n of w is constant +xJMNxpr88wI-01349-00297176-00297375 because you 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integers so i should get a connected +xJMNxpr88wI-01366-00300944-00301095 set of integers +xJMNxpr88wI-01367-00301096-00301319 okay but what is the connected set of +xJMNxpr88wI-01368-00301320-00301495 integers has to be only a single integer +xJMNxpr88wI-01369-00301496-00301671 so what it will tell you is that n of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01370-00301672-00301887 is a single integer +xJMNxpr88wI-01371-00301888-00302127 and that is irrespective of w so it will +xJMNxpr88wI-01372-00302128-00302463 be the same integer as n of w naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01373-00302464-00302679 okay but then what does that tell you it +xJMNxpr88wI-01374-00302680-00302799 tells you +xJMNxpr88wI-01375-00302800-00303103 that if f assumes the value w naught n w +xJMNxpr88wI-01376-00303104-00303391 naught times then f assumes every other +xJMNxpr88wI-01377-00303392-00303543 value w +xJMNxpr88wI-01378-00303544-00303799 the same n w naught times in this in +xJMNxpr88wI-01379-00303800-00304054 this disc mod z minus z naught +xJMNxpr88wI-01380-00304055-00304215 less than rho +xJMNxpr88wI-01381-00304216-00304454 what this tells you therefore is that +xJMNxpr88wI-01382-00304455-00304591 this whole +xJMNxpr88wI-01383-00304592-00304758 disk +xJMNxpr88wI-01384-00304759-00305023 is in the image +xJMNxpr88wI-01385-00305024-00305282 and that is a proof +xJMNxpr88wI-01386-00305283-00305454 that +xJMNxpr88wI-01387-00305455-00305663 the image contains an open disk centered +xJMNxpr88wI-01388-00305664-00305951 at z naught so if you take a point ah +xJMNxpr88wI-01389-00305952-00306079 centered at w naught so if you take a +xJMNxpr88wI-01390-00306080-00306254 point w naught in the image +xJMNxpr88wI-01391-00306255-00306423 then you get a whole disk centered at w +xJMNxpr88wI-01392-00306424-00306558 naught in the image +xJMNxpr88wI-01393-00306559-00306695 and that is exactly +xJMNxpr88wI-01394-00306696-00306903 saying that every point in the image is +xJMNxpr88wI-01395-00306904-00307103 an interior point of the image and that +xJMNxpr88wI-01396-00307104-00307287 means that the image is open and that is +xJMNxpr88wI-01397-00307288-00307439 the proof of open mapping theorem so the +xJMNxpr88wI-01398-00307440-00307703 technical point is to show that this is +xJMNxpr88wI-01399-00307704-00307927 an analytic function okay +xJMNxpr88wI-01400-00307928-00308134 and everything follows from that +xJMNxpr88wI-01401-00308135-00308399 ok and mind you the idea is very simple +xJMNxpr88wI-01402-00308400-00308551 we are just using the counting principle +xJMNxpr88wI-01403-00308552-00308775 argument +xJMNxpr88wI-01404-00308776-00308975 so i will expand upon this in my next +xJMNxpr88wI-01405-00308976-00309175 lecture i will explain +xJMNxpr88wI-01406-00309176-00309351 how to show n of w +xJMNxpr88wI-01407-00309352-00309599 is an analytic function +xJMNxpr88wI-01408-00309600-00311934 so i will stop here +xJMNxpr88wI-01409-00311935-00312144 you +xORleNqpkY0-00000-00000391-00000684 you know I think that's one of the real 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+xRfzH1zQH2Q-00012-00013038-00013452 [Music] +xRe6CqNpCtY-00000-00000440-00001051 oh +xRe6CqNpCtY-00001-00001052-00001434 [Music] +xSOQPNpFPZu-00000-00000104-00000311 hi i'm tony welcome to sports bike shops +xSOQPNpFPZu-00001-00000312-00000438 video about the bell +xSOQPNpFPZu-00002-00000440-00001593 race star dlx flex helmet +xSOQPNpFPZu-00003-00001594-00002239 [Music] +xSOQPNpFPZu-00004-00002240-00002391 bell are without a doubt one of the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00005-00002392-00002615 first names in modern motorcycle helmets +xSOQPNpFPZu-00006-00002616-00002775 they pioneered the use of expanded +xSOQPNpFPZu-00007-00002776-00003007 polystyrene as a protective crush liner +xSOQPNpFPZu-00008-00003008-00003286 way back in the 1950s this helmet is +xSOQPNpFPZu-00009-00003288-00003503 their latest top-line race helmet +xSOQPNpFPZu-00010-00003504-00003711 and it shows that the company is still +xSOQPNpFPZu-00011-00003711-00003911 pioneers in the current day +xSOQPNpFPZu-00012-00003911-00004151 the 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against a wider +xSOQPNpFPZu-00027-00006872-00007110 range of impact speeds than eps alone +xSOQPNpFPZu-00028-00007111-00007439 can provide the epo is most effective +xSOQPNpFPZu-00029-00007440-00007742 at absorbing low speed impacts epp works +xSOQPNpFPZu-00030-00007743-00007791 best +xSOQPNpFPZu-00031-00007792-00008031 on medium speed knocks and then eps is +xSOQPNpFPZu-00032-00008031-00008191 there for the harder hits +xSOQPNpFPZu-00033-00008192-00008359 if you have quite a low speed impact the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00034-00008360-00008623 epo alone will deform to absorb it +xSOQPNpFPZu-00035-00008624-00008855 hit it harder and the epo and epp will +xSOQPNpFPZu-00036-00008856-00008991 both work to protect you +xSOQPNpFPZu-00037-00008992-00009151 and if you hit your head hard enough the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00038-00009152-00009310 eps will compress too +xSOQPNpFPZu-00039-00009311-00009510 and all three layers will work to absorb +xSOQPNpFPZu-00040-00009511-00009646 the impact energy +xSOQPNpFPZu-00041-00009647-00009846 that flex liner is also able to move +xSOQPNpFPZu-00042-00009847-00010071 around slightly within the helmet shell +xSOQPNpFPZu-00043-00010072-00010278 which bell say helps it protect against +xSOQPNpFPZu-00044-00010279-00010455 injuries from glancing blows +xSOQPNpFPZu-00045-00010456-00010646 because it can deflect slightly inside +xSOQPNpFPZu-00046-00010647-00010855 the shell energy is spent on that +xSOQPNpFPZu-00047-00010856-00011006 movement stopping that energy being +xSOQPNpFPZu-00048-00011007-00011214 transferred to your brain +xSOQPNpFPZu-00049-00011215-00011423 so that's the truly novel part of the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00050-00011424-00011574 race star dlx flex +xSOQPNpFPZu-00051-00011575-00011791 but now let's cover the rest of it the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00052-00011792-00012023 shell is made from all carbon fiber and +xSOQPNpFPZu-00053-00012024-00012223 it has an aerodynamic spoiler around the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00054-00012224-00012342 back +xSOQPNpFPZu-00055-00012343-00012559 carbon fiber is usually associated with +xSOQPNpFPZu-00056-00012560-00012710 the very lightest of lids but this +xSOQPNpFPZu-00057-00012711-00012799 helmet weighs in +xSOQPNpFPZu-00058-00012800-00013102 on our scales at 1492 grams which i +xSOQPNpFPZu-00059-00013103-00013238 would say is a little bit above the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00060-00013240-00013430 average for a race helmet but it's still +xSOQPNpFPZu-00061-00013431-00013599 reasonable as helmet weight goes in +xSOQPNpFPZu-00062-00013600-00013694 general +xSOQPNpFPZu-00063-00013695-00013886 there's a lot of helmet in the race star +xSOQPNpFPZu-00064-00013887-00014111 dlx it's physically bigger than many +xSOQPNpFPZu-00065-00014112-00014199 other helmets +xSOQPNpFPZu-00066-00014200-00014366 and i'd say that contributes to a little +xSOQPNpFPZu-00067-00014368-00014551 bit of the extra weight +xSOQPNpFPZu-00068-00014552-00014727 there's a comprehensive ventilation +xSOQPNpFPZu-00069-00014728-00014919 system running through this helmet's +xSOQPNpFPZu-00070-00014919-00015207 shell and its liner the chin vent here +xSOQPNpFPZu-00071-00015208-00015343 pulls air in +xSOQPNpFPZu-00072-00015344-00015486 and scoops it through the top of the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00073-00015487-00015703 chin bar and then two vents above the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00074-00015704-00015758 visor +xSOQPNpFPZu-00075-00015759-00015943 called the top of the head this one only +xSOQPNpFPZu-00076-00015944-00016063 just clears the top of the visor and +xSOQPNpFPZu-00077-00016063-00016247 this small central tab +xSOQPNpFPZu-00078-00016247-00016511 opens four intake holes the second +xSOQPNpFPZu-00079-00016512-00016615 shutter here +xSOQPNpFPZu-00080-00016616-00016847 opens to reveal a hole that allows air +xSOQPNpFPZu-00081-00016848-00017055 to flow down into the helmet +xSOQPNpFPZu-00082-00017056-00017191 through the lid and then out through +xSOQPNpFPZu-00083-00017192-00017447 this exit here +xSOQPNpFPZu-00084-00017448-00017630 the venting on this helmet was effective +xSOQPNpFPZu-00085-00017631-00017822 in my time with the lid especially the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00086-00017823-00018039 chin vent and the one above the visor +xSOQPNpFPZu-00087-00018040-00018199 these are the two that sit farthest +xSOQPNpFPZu-00088-00018200-00018327 forward on the helmet so it's no +xSOQPNpFPZu-00089-00018328-00018455 surprise that they get the most +xSOQPNpFPZu-00090-00018456-00018783 airflow i found with the lower of the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00091-00018784-00018975 two top vents that it was tricky to lift +xSOQPNpFPZu-00092-00018976-00019143 the opening tab if i didn't have the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00093-00019144-00019350 visor locked down completely +xSOQPNpFPZu-00094-00019351-00019535 speaking of which the visor on this lid +xSOQPNpFPZu-00095-00019536-00019719 is definitely one of its strong points +xSOQPNpFPZu-00096-00019720-00019799 it offers great +xSOQPNpFPZu-00097-00019800-00020047 clarity breadth of vision and is very +xSOQPNpFPZu-00098-00020048-00020175 easy to change +xSOQPNpFPZu-00099-00020176-00020358 it has a central lifting tab which is +xSOQPNpFPZu-00100-00020359-00020519 rapidly becoming the position of choice +xSOQPNpFPZu-00101-00020520-00020622 for visor tabs +xSOQPNpFPZu-00102-00020623-00020783 and it locks in place by giving it a +xSOQPNpFPZu-00103-00020784-00021047 good solid click down +xSOQPNpFPZu-00104-00021048-00021311 if you don't click it down it leaves a +xSOQPNpFPZu-00105-00021312-00021478 small gap to allow in some air around +xSOQPNpFPZu-00106-00021479-00021614 the base of the visor +xSOQPNpFPZu-00107-00021615-00021783 but push it up any further and it has to +xSOQPNpFPZu-00108-00021784-00021999 open all the way +xSOQPNpFPZu-00109-00022000-00022150 that lack of a half stage opening is +xSOQPNpFPZu-00110-00022151-00022303 something some owners have raised as a +xSOQPNpFPZu-00111-00022304-00022471 bit of an issue for them +xSOQPNpFPZu-00112-00022472-00022671 locking the visor down is what gives you +xSOQPNpFPZu-00113-00022672-00022839 that bit more clearance above to get a +xSOQPNpFPZu-00114-00022840-00022911 gloved hand +xSOQPNpFPZu-00115-00022912-00023135 under and operate this top vent without +xSOQPNpFPZu-00116-00023136-00023286 doing that as i said there isn't much +xSOQPNpFPZu-00117-00023287-00023503 room to operate that tab +xSOQPNpFPZu-00118-00023504-00023727 the vise is protected against mist by +xSOQPNpFPZu-00119-00023728-00023983 pinlock 120 insert that's the middle of +xSOQPNpFPZu-00120-00023984-00024135 pinlock's three grades of insert in +xSOQPNpFPZu-00121-00024136-00024278 terms of moisture protection +xSOQPNpFPZu-00122-00024279-00024399 and it's supplied in the box with the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00123-00024400-00024647 helmet this helmet came with a clear +xSOQPNpFPZu-00124-00024648-00024814 visor as standard and previously the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00125-00024815-00024942 race star dlx +xSOQPNpFPZu-00126-00024943-00025158 came with an additional tinted visor in +xSOQPNpFPZu-00127-00025159-00025278 the box +xSOQPNpFPZu-00128-00025279-00025463 in future the helmet will be supplied +xSOQPNpFPZu-00129-00025464-00025687 with bell's pro tint visor which darkens +xSOQPNpFPZu-00130-00025688-00025862 in sunlight and returns to clear as the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00131-00025863-00025983 light fades +xSOQPNpFPZu-00132-00025983-00026150 that will be a significant upgrade as +xSOQPNpFPZu-00133-00026151-00026287 there's far less hassle of swarping +xSOQPNpFPZu-00134-00026288-00026439 visors for different conditions +xSOQPNpFPZu-00135-00026439-00026599 even though it's actually pretty simple +xSOQPNpFPZu-00136-00026600-00027135 to swap between the two +xSOQPNpFPZu-00137-00027136-00027287 the interior for this helmet is fully +xSOQPNpFPZu-00138-00027288-00027495 removable for washing and the cheek pads +xSOQPNpFPZu-00139-00027495-00027670 are dead easy to fit as they're attached +xSOQPNpFPZu-00140-00027672-00027870 with magnetic clips +xSOQPNpFPZu-00141-00027872-00028055 there are recesses for intercom speakers +xSOQPNpFPZu-00142-00028056-00028223 too they're filled with wedges of foam +xSOQPNpFPZu-00143-00028224-00028295 as standard +xSOQPNpFPZu-00144-00028295-00028439 so pulling those out makes room for the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00145-00028439-00028607 speakers bell +xSOQPNpFPZu-00146-00028608-00028887 have also left thinner sections in the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00147-00028888-00029095 top of the cheek pads to allow spectacle +xSOQPNpFPZu-00148-00029095-00029318 arms to fit in there comfortably +xSOQPNpFPZu-00149-00029319-00029558 the strap fastener is a racy d-ring set +xSOQPNpFPZu-00150-00029560-00029718 up and the covers that protect your skin +xSOQPNpFPZu-00151-00029719-00029911 from irritation just here can be removed +xSOQPNpFPZu-00152-00029912-00030046 for washing too +xSOQPNpFPZu-00153-00030047-00030255 there's one feature here that bell are +xSOQPNpFPZu-00154-00030256-00030423 among the few manufacturers to use and +xSOQPNpFPZu-00155-00030424-00030631 that's the the tab that holds the loose +xSOQPNpFPZu-00156-00030632-00030862 strap end out of the way here secures +xSOQPNpFPZu-00157-00030863-00031014 against the base of the d-ring with a +xSOQPNpFPZu-00158-00031016-00031135 magnet +xSOQPNpFPZu-00159-00031136-00031311 and that's way quicker to use than the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00160-00031312-00031462 usual press studs you get on most +xSOQPNpFPZu-00161-00031463-00031590 helmets +xSOQPNpFPZu-00162-00031591-00031879 approvals for the lid are ece 2205 for +xSOQPNpFPZu-00163-00031880-00032095 road use acu gold for the track here in +xSOQPNpFPZu-00164-00032095-00032151 britain +xSOQPNpFPZu-00165-00032152-00032351 and has maximum five-star performance in +xSOQPNpFPZu-00166-00032352-00032502 the uk government's sharp +xSOQPNpFPZu-00167-00032503-00032807 safety scheme we've had around 20 owner +xSOQPNpFPZu-00168-00032808-00032983 reviews for this lid so far and on the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00169-00032984-00033127 whole riders are very pleased with their +xSOQPNpFPZu-00170-00033128-00033215 purchase +xSOQPNpFPZu-00171-00033216-00033374 some say they've had to go up a size +xSOQPNpFPZu-00172-00033375-00033599 from their normal choice which i suspect +xSOQPNpFPZu-00173-00033600-00033807 is down to the interior shape of the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00174-00033808-00034015 lid those riders who say they have +xSOQPNpFPZu-00175-00034016-00034207 what's called an intermediate oval head +xSOQPNpFPZu-00176-00034208-00034239 shape +xSOQPNpFPZu-00177-00034240-00034367 are the people who find this lid the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00178-00034368-00034535 most comfortable that's the shape of +xSOQPNpFPZu-00179-00034536-00034711 someone's head when it's slightly longer +xSOQPNpFPZu-00180-00034712-00034918 front to back than it is wider from side +xSOQPNpFPZu-00181-00034919-00035039 to side +xSOQPNpFPZu-00182-00035040-00035190 my head is closest to what's called a +xSOQPNpFPZu-00183-00035191-00035343 round head shape where you've got an +xSOQPNpFPZu-00184-00035344-00035518 equal distance front to back and side to +xSOQPNpFPZu-00185-00035519-00035583 side +xSOQPNpFPZu-00186-00035584-00035839 and i found the race star dlx flex +xSOQPNpFPZu-00187-00035840-00035918 slightly too +xSOQPNpFPZu-00188-00035919-00036087 short and also too narrow to be +xSOQPNpFPZu-00189-00036088-00036271 completely comfortable for me +xSOQPNpFPZu-00190-00036272-00036430 that was in the size medium i would +xSOQPNpFPZu-00191-00036431-00036599 normally take and i feel +xSOQPNpFPZu-00192-00036600-00036774 some people are going up a size if their +xSOQPNpFPZu-00193-00036775-00036918 head is a bit too long +xSOQPNpFPZu-00194-00036919-00037135 or a bit too wide to be comfortable for +xSOQPNpFPZu-00195-00037136-00037415 the internal shape of this helmet +xSOQPNpFPZu-00196-00037416-00037590 finally there's one last detail that +xSOQPNpFPZu-00197-00037591-00037751 might appeal to some riders about this +xSOQPNpFPZu-00198-00037752-00037823 helmet +xSOQPNpFPZu-00199-00037824-00038135 it's supplied with a classy helmet hold +xSOQPNpFPZu-00200-00038136-00038183 all +xSOQPNpFPZu-00201-00038184-00038383 so if you're transporting this lid it's +xSOQPNpFPZu-00202-00038384-00038718 much easier to carry it around in this +xSOQPNpFPZu-00203-00038719-00039015 with the handles that sit on the top +xSOQPNpFPZu-00204-00039016-00039159 than it is to carry it around in the +xSOQPNpFPZu-00205-00039160-00039318 normal drawstring bag that you get with +xSOQPNpFPZu-00206-00039319-00039525 most helmets +xSOQPNpFPZu-00207-00039526-00040095 [Music] +xSOQPNpFPZu-00208-00040096-00040215 i hope that tells you everything there +xSOQPNpFPZu-00209-00040216-00040446 is to know about the bell race star dlx +xSOQPNpFPZu-00210-00040447-00040607 flex helmet but if there is anything +xSOQPNpFPZu-00211-00040608-00040767 you'd like to ask or to add +xSOQPNpFPZu-00212-00040768-00040958 then please pop a comment below thanks +xSOQPNpFPZu-00213-00040959-00043190 for watching +xSOQPNpFPZu-00214-00043191-00043400 you +xSSoIMfCdZu-00000-00000189-00000697 [Music] +xSSoIMfCdZu-00001-00000698-00001000 hands wrap Knuckles tape black take my +xSSoIMfCdZu-00002-00001001-00001235 gloves up off the mat fighting's All I +xSSoIMfCdZu-00003-00001236-00001474 Ever Had wasn't born with tons of gifts +xSSoIMfCdZu-00004-00001475-00001721 had to work hard as a kid know that +xSSoIMfCdZu-00005-00001722-00001960 everything I did was to catch the other +xSSoIMfCdZu-00006-00001961-00002218 kids slowly build that self-esteem turn +xSSoIMfCdZu-00007-00002219-00002489 myself to a machine I'd compete so why +xSSoIMfCdZu-00008-00002490-00002758 be seen I would lose and I'd succeed but +xSSoIMfCdZu-00009-00002759-00003010 you'd never see me quit I'd always get +xSSoIMfCdZu-00010-00003011-00003299 after it knew I had a different gift I'd +xSSoIMfCdZu-00011-00003300-00003581 work any other gift deep within our +xSSoIMfCdZu-00012-00003582-00003743 souls we can feel there's something +xSSoIMfCdZu-00013-00003744-00004013 empty we need something more I feel +xSSoIMfCdZu-00014-00004014-00004265 Destiny she tempts me tells me there's +xSSoIMfCdZu-00015-00004266-00004463 two paths they both have a different +xSSoIMfCdZu-00016-00004464-00004811 ending truth wise and you'll find that +xSSoIMfCdZu-00017-00004812-00005070 pain needs to ascending +xSSoIMfCdZu-00018-00005071-00005429 very deep within a cemetery I will fight +xSSoIMfCdZu-00019-00005430-00005777 never weary I Wanna Be legendary till +xSSoIMfCdZu-00020-00005778-00006047 I'm dead and very deep within a sanitary +xSSoIMfCdZu-00021-00006048-00006341 I'm fighting February I Wanna Be +xSSoIMfCdZu-00022-00006342-00006652 legendary +xSSoIMfCdZu-00024-00009679-00009928 Once I pass you no one's getting past me +xSSoIMfCdZu-00025-00009929-00010085 I see people hear walls when they stop +xSSoIMfCdZu-00026-00010086-00010253 there I don't get that my man is +xSSoIMfCdZu-00027-00010254-00010414 downstairs good things take time better +xSSoIMfCdZu-00028-00010415-00010606 prepares anything great takes pain isn't +xSSoIMfCdZu-00029-00010607-00010823 fair oh take it from me cause I glass in +xSSoIMfCdZu-00030-00010824-00010960 this place where no one can tell me to +xSSoIMfCdZu-00031-00010961-00011171 do anything I call my yo chest I call my +xSSoIMfCdZu-00032-00011172-00011338 own place I enjoy my life almost every +xSSoIMfCdZu-00033-00011339-00011513 day and I could teach you if you listen +xSSoIMfCdZu-00034-00011514-00011699 to me who follows some rules only gets +xSSoIMfCdZu-00035-00011700-00011824 to be paid the persistence is better +xSSoIMfCdZu-00036-00011825-00011992 than brains any day just listen to me +xSSoIMfCdZu-00037-00011993-00012174 and I'll show you the weather +xSSoIMfCdZu-00038-00012175-00012533 something empty we need something more I +xSSoIMfCdZu-00039-00012534-00012773 feel Destiny she tempts me tells me +xSSoIMfCdZu-00040-00012774-00012971 there's two paths they both have a +xSSoIMfCdZu-00041-00012972-00013283 different end day choose wise and you'll +xSSoIMfCdZu-00042-00013284-00013515 find that pain needs to ascend in +xSSoIMfCdZu-00043-00013516-00014653 [Music] +xSSoIMfCdZu-00044-00014654-00015097 February I Wanna Be legendary +xSSoIMfCdZu-00045-00015097-00016843 [Music] +xSSoIMfCdZu-00046-00016844-00017319 I Wanna Be legendary +xSSoIMfCdZu-00047-00017320-00017557 [Music] +xSSoIMfCdZu-00048-00017558-00017921 I Wanna Be legendary +xSSoIMfCdZu-00049-00017922-00018400 foreign +xSSoIMfCdZu-00050-00018401-00019469 [Music] +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00000-00000043-00000299 hi guys how are you good morning +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00001-00000300-00000668 and today working to start this unit +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00002-00000669-00000998 which is about well it's an introduction +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00003-00000999-00001289 to time series analysis and forecasting +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00004-00001290-00001565 and we're gonna follow a machine +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00005-00001566-00001832 learning approach to do this analysis +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00006-00001832-00002237 and forecasting so the outline of this +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00007-00002238-00002546 unit is what you can see in the screen +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00008-00002547-00003124 and two for my explanations I've used +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00009-00003125-00003443 mainly these three resources that you +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00010-00003444-00003635 can see at the bottom of the screen and +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00011-00003636-00003997 they're all pretty accessible so if you +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00012-00003998-00004367 have any doubts I think it's it's it's a +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00013-00004368-00004822 good approach to to to click on those +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00014-00004823-00005113 links and and read these resources +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00015-00005114-00005461 because there are all very good and very +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00016-00005462-00005779 and quite easy to follow I would say in +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00017-00005780-00005954 this video we're just going to see the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00018-00005955-00006184 introduction to the topic so many we're +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00019-00006185-00006392 gonna learn what the time series is and +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00020-00006393-00006626 what time series analysis and +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00021-00006627-00006914 forecasting is so let's start with the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00022-00006915-00007189 introduction then basically a time +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00023-00007190-00007864 series is is a data set that is ordered +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00024-00007865-00008216 in time that has some natural temporal +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00025-00008217-00008560 ordering like down here we can see two +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00026-00008561-00008984 time series one is is for advertising +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00027-00008985-00009362 expense which is in in orange and the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00028-00009363-00009635 other one is for sales and as you can +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00029-00009636-00010094 see the sales time series the one in +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00030-00010095-00010487 blue follows the the time series series +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00031-00010488-00010742 of the advertising expense why is that 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weather forecasts as you can guess +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00072-00024309-00024603 here at the top we've got an example of +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00073-00024604-00024959 pollution indicator I think it was PM +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00074-00024960-00025414 2.5 which is the concentration of +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00075-00025415-00025771 particulate matter that is less that has +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00076-00025772-00026077 less than 2.5 micrometers of diameter +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00077-00026078-00026312 but it doesn't really matter it's it's +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00078-00026313-00026564 just a time series of a poly +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00079-00026566-00026919 indicator below we've got the time +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00080-00026920-00027222 series of the dew point and the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00081-00027223-00027537 temperature and as you can see these two +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00082-00027538-00027894 time series have clear cyclic all +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00083-00027895-00028230 components like like seasonal components +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00084-00028231-00028542 if you like in this case these are daily 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are also really important in finance so +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00099-00032809-00033291 whenever you see the time series of any +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00100-00033292-00033663 of the price of any financial asset we +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00101-00033664-00033909 can use the the tools that we're gonna +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00102-00033910-00034200 learn in this unit to analyze it and +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00103-00034201-00034467 here we can see the time series of the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00104-00034468-00034998 price of a Bitcoin in the last five four +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00105-00034999-00035754 or six years okay and subtly vary an +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00106-00035755-00035972 example that we all have in mind +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00107-00035973-00036384 nowadays is is the number of confirmed +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00108-00036385-00036786 cases of coronavirus in in different +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00109-00036787-00037113 countries particularly in Spain here +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00110-00037114-00037461 this a linear graph and we can see that +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00111-00037462-00037932 the growth is is looks exponential and +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00112-00037933-00038290 it is exponential and it keeps growing +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00113-00038291-00038727 so really there's there's not a clear +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00114-00038728-00039015 sign that this is going to end soon by +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00115-00039016-00039489 by any means this graph can be analyzed +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00116-00039490-00039872 or can be studied +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00117-00039873-00040127 in a better way if we use a semi-log +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00118-00040128-00040355 plot so here the number of confirmed +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00119-00040356-00040781 cases are in a log plot scale and well +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00120-00040782-00041210 to try to to to get something positive +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00121-00041211-00041567 out of that there's not much positive +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00122-00041568-00041789 here but to try to say something +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00123-00041790-00042187 positive about this well it seems like +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00124-00042188-00042620 the slope of this curve at the beginning +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00125-00042621-00043124 of the outbreak was higher than it is +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00126-00043125-00043385 now what does that mean well it means +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00127-00043386-00043685 basically that the time it takes to +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00128-00043686-00044131 double the number of confirmed cases is +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00129-00044132-00044423 getting larger and larger so at the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00130-00044424-00044720 beginning of the outbreak a confirmed +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00131-00044721-00044999 cases with double like in just a few +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00132-00045000-00045485 hours and nowadays it takes a few days +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00133-00045486-00045779 and and it looks like it's gonna take +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00134-00045780-00046052 longer and longer to to double the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00135-00046053-00046379 number of confirmed cases and the number +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00136-00046380-00046759 of deaths follows a similar pattern +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00137-00046760-00047299 anyway so to conclude this introduction 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+xV4jwd9Dqhc-00151-00051612-00051971 measure of the confidence that we can +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00152-00051972-00052277 place in our forecasts so we're also +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00153-00052278-00052610 going to learn how to build prediction +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00154-00052611-00052792 intervals like for instance in this +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00155-00052794-00053096 graph this is a time series of inflation +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00156-00053097-00053149 and +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00157-00053150-00053560 we start to make predictions from this +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00158-00053561-00053878 point and besides our prediction which +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00159-00053879-00054190 would be the black line we should also +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00160-00054191-00054571 give excuse me we should also give some +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00161-00054572-00054796 prediction intervals which basically say +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00162-00054797-00055302 that we in the case of the dark purple +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00163-00055303-00055738 interval it says that we may have a 70 +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00164-00055739-00056014 percent confidence that the inflation +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00165-00056015-00056304 will fall within this interval and the +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00166-00056305-00056602 90 percent interval of courses is wider +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00167-00056603-00056845 because we will place in a higher +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00168-00056846-00057267 confidence that the inflation will fall +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00169-00057269-00057691 within this 90 percent interval so with +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00170-00057691-00057930 this we finish the introduction thanks a +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00171-00057932-00058252 lot for watching and I look forward to +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00172-00058253-00058507 seeing you in the next video thanks a +xV4jwd9Dqhc-00173-00058508-00058779 lot see you later +xVi4xUJq7KM-00000-00000006-00000323 an electronic warfare aircraft is a +xVi4xUJq7KM-00001-00000324-00000505 military aircraft equipped for +xVi4xUJq7KM-00002-00000506-00000757 electronic warfare II W that is +xVi4xUJq7KM-00003-00000758-00000970 degrading the effectiveness of enemy 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mystery even to the kid and +xcueaOudvN4-00007-00002247-00002600 truthfully it's really quite simple and +xcueaOudvN4-00008-00002601-00002818 most parents and coaches already know +xcueaOudvN4-00009-00002819-00003184 how to do it but they just don't do it +xcueaOudvN4-00010-00003185-00003365 and it all comes down to these two +xcueaOudvN4-00011-00003365-00003575 things adults can do to build their +xcueaOudvN4-00012-00003576-00003776 child's confidence in baseball or +xcueaOudvN4-00013-00003777-00004270 anywhere one positive encouragement to +xcueaOudvN4-00014-00004271-00004547 unconditional approval so this video is +xcueaOudvN4-00015-00004548-00004736 going to help you correct the reasons +xcueaOudvN4-00016-00004737-00004976 why adults are so terrible in the +xcueaOudvN4-00017-00004977-00005204 execution of those principles and how to +xcueaOudvN4-00018-00005205-00005435 do it right so let's start with positive +xcueaOudvN4-00019-00005436-00005699 encouragement really nothing 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+xfxeTDtsi0g-00060-00042653-00043230 [Music] +xfxeTDtsi0g-00061-00043231-00043676 audio jungle +xfxeTDtsi0g-00062-00043677-00044255 [Music] +xfxeTDtsi0g-00063-00044256-00045287 oh yeah +xfxeTDtsi0g-00064-00045288-00046071 audio jungle +xfxeTDtsi0g-00065-00046072-00046318 [Music] +xfxeTDtsi0g-00066-00046319-00046645 audio +xfxeTDtsi0g-00067-00046646-00047343 [Music] +xfxeTDtsi0g-00068-00047344-00048367 audio jungle +xfxeTDtsi0g-00069-00048368-00049202 audio jump +xfxeTDtsi0g-00070-00049203-00050483 [Music] +xfxeTDtsi0g-00071-00050484-00051882 audio +xfxeTDtsi0g-00072-00051883-00052471 or +xfxeTDtsi0g-00073-00052472-00053519 an audio jungle +xfxeTDtsi0g-00074-00053520-00054783 audio jungle +xg9sMpoEHH8-00000-00000003-00000332 in this problem I'm given decimals or +xg9sMpoEHH8-00001-00000333-00000647 decimals and fractions or negative +xg9sMpoEHH8-00002-00000648-00000860 decimals and fractions and I'm asked to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00003-00000861-00001073 order the numbers from smallest to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00004-00001074-00001179 largest +xg9sMpoEHH8-00005-00001180-00001487 when working with decimals and trying to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00006-00001488-00001772 order them from smallest to largest I +xg9sMpoEHH8-00007-00001773-00002183 find that it's easiest to make sure that +xg9sMpoEHH8-00008-00002184-00002399 the decimals that I'm working with have +xg9sMpoEHH8-00009-00002400-00002568 the same number of decimal places +xg9sMpoEHH8-00010-00002569-00003076 because then I can compare the values +xg9sMpoEHH8-00011-00003077-00003344 directly and see which one is bigger and +xg9sMpoEHH8-00012-00003345-00003640 which one is smaller so if I look at +xg9sMpoEHH8-00013-00003642-00003902 each one of these numbers in part a I +xg9sMpoEHH8-00014-00003903-00004495 have 42 thousands so I'm going to write +xg9sMpoEHH8-00015-00004496-00005443 that as 40 mm and then I have 420 +xg9sMpoEHH8-00016-00005444-00005795 thousands so luckily in the first one +xg9sMpoEHH8-00017-00005796-00006134 all of these are written three decimal +xg9sMpoEHH8-00018-00006135-00006803 places and the third one is 400 mm so if +xg9sMpoEHH8-00019-00006804-00007100 I look at which one is smallest if I +xg9sMpoEHH8-00020-00007101-00007549 have 40 mm that's the first one that's +xg9sMpoEHH8-00021-00007550-00007934 the smallest one then 402 that's the +xg9sMpoEHH8-00022-00007934-00008414 second one then 420 that's the third one +xg9sMpoEHH8-00023-00008415-00008671 so if I write these in order from +xg9sMpoEHH8-00024-00008672-00008945 smallest to largest we go back to the +xg9sMpoEHH8-00025-00008946-00009299 original form that they were so this is +xg9sMpoEHH8-00026-00009300-00009794 the first one the second one is 0.40 2 +xg9sMpoEHH8-00027-00009795-00010598 and then the biggest one is 0.42 0 for +xg9sMpoEHH8-00028-00010599-00011003 Part B I have decimal I have a fraction +xg9sMpoEHH8-00029-00011004-00011252 and then I have another decimal these +xg9sMpoEHH8-00030-00011253-00011492 two decimals do not have the same number +xg9sMpoEHH8-00031-00011493-00011873 of decimal points so what I'm going to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00032-00011874-00012139 do first is I'm going to write 1 and 11 +xg9sMpoEHH8-00033-00012140-00012344 15 as a fraction +xg9sMpoEHH8-00034-00012345-00012626 I'm scuse me not as a fraction as a +xg9sMpoEHH8-00035-00012627-00012890 decimal I already have a fraction so I'm +xg9sMpoEHH8-00036-00012891-00013241 gonna take 11 divided by 15 and I'm +xg9sMpoEHH8-00037-00013241-00013379 going to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00038-00013380-00014162 see that that is 1.73 repeating I'm +xg9sMpoEHH8-00039-00014163-00014369 going to put a little bar over the three +xg9sMpoEHH8-00040-00014369-00014437 there +xg9sMpoEHH8-00041-00014438-00014822 so this one is 1.73 +xg9sMpoEHH8-00042-00014822-00015218 and this one if I added a number to make +xg9sMpoEHH8-00043-00015219-00015530 the decimal places the same number of +xg9sMpoEHH8-00044-00015531-00015893 places then I would add a zero so what +xg9sMpoEHH8-00045-00015894-00016121 I'm comparing is one point seven three +xg9sMpoEHH8-00046-00016122-00016451 one point seven three three three three +xg9sMpoEHH8-00047-00016452-00016735 three three three one point seven zero +xg9sMpoEHH8-00048-00016736-00017240 so this is my smallest one point seven +xg9sMpoEHH8-00049-00017241-00017681 zero is the smallest followed by one +xg9sMpoEHH8-00050-00017682-00018149 point seven three and then the next +xg9sMpoEHH8-00051-00018150-00018785 biggest the last one is one and eleven +xg9sMpoEHH8-00052-00018786-00019037 over fifteen if I write them in their +xg9sMpoEHH8-00053-00019038-00019148 original form +xg9sMpoEHH8-00054-00019149-00019457 which means I need to take away that +xg9sMpoEHH8-00055-00019458-00019817 zero so that I have all of the numbers +xg9sMpoEHH8-00056-00019818-00020012 in their original form so I had one +xg9sMpoEHH8-00057-00020013-00020273 point seven is the smallest followed by +xg9sMpoEHH8-00058-00020274-00020528 a one point seven three followed by the +xg9sMpoEHH8-00059-00020529-00020765 number that is one point seven three +xg9sMpoEHH8-00060-00020766-00020927 three three three three two three a +xg9sMpoEHH8-00061-00020928-00021191 little bit bigger than this one written +xg9sMpoEHH8-00062-00021192-00021863 in its fraction form for Part C I've got +xg9sMpoEHH8-00063-00021864-00022064 a lot of different numbers going on here +xg9sMpoEHH8-00064-00022065-00022439 and they are all negative so let's see +xg9sMpoEHH8-00065-00022440-00022658 what the most number of decimals so +xg9sMpoEHH8-00066-00022659-00023036 three so to write this one negative two +xg9sMpoEHH8-00067-00023037-00023276 point five with three decimals that's +xg9sMpoEHH8-00068-00023277-00023590 negative two point five zero zero +xg9sMpoEHH8-00069-00023591-00023840 negative two and one-fifth +xg9sMpoEHH8-00070-00023841-00024380 well one divided by five is point two so +xg9sMpoEHH8-00071-00024381-00024818 this one becomes negative two point two +xg9sMpoEHH8-00072-00024819-00025100 and then if I make that with three +xg9sMpoEHH8-00073-00025101-00025583 decimals I'm going to add two zeros for +xg9sMpoEHH8-00074-00025584-00026020 this one negative two point zero five +xg9sMpoEHH8-00075-00026022-00026527 zero for this one it's negative two +xg9sMpoEHH8-00076-00026529-00026720 point five five +xg9sMpoEHH8-00077-00026720-00027110 zero and this one the last one negative +xg9sMpoEHH8-00078-00027111-00027605 two and 555,000 is already written to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00079-00027606-00027911 this thousands place so we are good to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00080-00027912-00028243 go so what I want to do then is remember +xg9sMpoEHH8-00081-00028244-00028487 that for negative numbers the largest +xg9sMpoEHH8-00082-00028488-00028826 negative number is the smallest so I'm +xg9sMpoEHH8-00083-00028827-00029074 kind of going in Reverse of what I do +xg9sMpoEHH8-00084-00029075-00029402 when I have positive numbers so this one +xg9sMpoEHH8-00085-00029402-00029777 is the scuse me the largest negative so +xg9sMpoEHH8-00086-00029777-00030139 I'm going to write that first so that is +xg9sMpoEHH8-00087-00030141-00030470 the smallest number in order from left +xg9sMpoEHH8-00088-00030470-00031274 to right then I'm gonna go up two so 550 +xg9sMpoEHH8-00089-00031275-00031508 is bigger than 200 it's further to the +xg9sMpoEHH8-00090-00031508-00031999 left negative so this is the next +xg9sMpoEHH8-00091-00032000-00032483 largest that's this one right here then +xg9sMpoEHH8-00092-00032483-00032876 I'm gonna go to negative two point five +xg9sMpoEHH8-00093-00032877-00033398 zero zero and I'm gonna write all these +xg9sMpoEHH8-00094-00033399-00033849 out so I don't mess up their form and +xg9sMpoEHH8-00095-00033850-00034108 then I will rewrite them in their +xg9sMpoEHH8-00096-00034109-00034546 original form here so I'm missing these +xg9sMpoEHH8-00097-00034547-00034931 two so the next one is going to be +xg9sMpoEHH8-00098-00034932-00035306 negative two point two zero zero that's +xg9sMpoEHH8-00099-00035307-00035648 that one and then the biggest one is +xg9sMpoEHH8-00100-00035649-00036026 negative two point zero five zero so now +xg9sMpoEHH8-00101-00036027-00036220 let's go back and write them all as they +xg9sMpoEHH8-00102-00036221-00036518 were originally presented negative two +xg9sMpoEHH8-00103-00036519-00036877 point five five five and then negative +xg9sMpoEHH8-00104-00036878-00037333 two point five five and then negative +xg9sMpoEHH8-00105-00037334-00037818 two point five and then negative two and +xg9sMpoEHH8-00106-00037819-00038274 one-fifth and negative two point zero +xg9sMpoEHH8-00107-00038275-00038602 five so this one is the largest negative +xg9sMpoEHH8-00108-00038603-00038917 meaning it's the smallest number +xg9sMpoEHH8-00109-00038918-00039227 increasing increasing increasing up to +xg9sMpoEHH8-00110-00039228-00039673 negative two point oh five solar is the +xg9sMpoEHH8-00111-00039674-00040004 largest number it's the least 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