1 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:20,600 Okay, good morning everybody. How are you today? I 2 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,540 don't see many students coming today to the class. 3 00:00:24,980 --> 00:00:28,510 I know it is because of the midterm exam. And this 4 00:00:28,510 --> 00:00:31,590 is a pity because we said several times, when 5 00:00:31,590 --> 00:00:34,190 there is a midterm exam, you cannot absent 6 00:00:34,190 --> 00:00:40,310 yourself from class. Anyway, today's class will be 7 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:44,510 like this. We're going, as usual, to listen to a 8 00:00:44,510 --> 00:00:49,690 couple of reports. Then we are going to debate 9 00:00:49,690 --> 00:00:55,200 about the interpretation, the several or the 10 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,600 several possible interpretations of the tiger. 11 00:01:01,180 --> 00:01:05,840 And, you know, we're going to debate. If there is 12 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,060 like, if we finish with a debate, it would be a 13 00:01:09,060 --> 00:01:17,340 nice idea. Okay? So let's start. Let's see who is 14 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:19,020 reporting today. Yes, please. 15 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:29,260 Good morning. 16 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:35,020 It was a shock for the student when Dr. Akram 17 00:01:35,020 --> 00:01:37,380 asked for all students daily reports. But it 18 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:39,620 wasn't like that for me because I always write my 19 00:01:39,620 --> 00:01:41,980 reports. Many students start writing their reports 20 00:01:41,980 --> 00:01:45,220 in lecture, so teacher didn't accept them. 21 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:48,040 According to the Tiger, it was really a little bit 22 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,680 difficult, but it needs more analysis and 23 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,260 explanation. And actually this time wasn't Dr. 24 00:01:54,300 --> 00:01:57,120 Akram who explained it, but it was Mr. Ahlam, Mrs. 25 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Ahlam. It was a nice and clear explanation, 26 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:05,640 although we didn't share a lot. Oh, I forgot to 27 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,400 say that Dr. Akram read the poem in a nice way, 28 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,180 and then commented that Mr. Ahlam's explanation 29 00:02:12,180 --> 00:02:16,700 was nice, and that it reminded him of the best 30 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:20,200 days when she was his student. Yes. Thank you very 31 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,620 much. Another report. Yes, Khawla. 32 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,140 It was the lecture of the poem, Which I Like, The 33 00:02:35,140 --> 00:02:38,040 Tiger, by William Blake. Ms. Ahlam attended the 34 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,360 lecture and she did her presentation in a nice 35 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,780 way. I like her thinking of some words in the 36 00:02:45,780 --> 00:02:48,740 poem, but before that Dr. Akram asked each student 37 00:02:48,740 --> 00:02:52,880 wrote a report to submit it to him. Unfortunately, 38 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,920 I didn't write for that lecture. After that, some 39 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:59,740 students read their reports and Dr. Akram started 40 00:02:59,740 --> 00:03:02,220 the lecture by some analysis for the poem. In 41 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:04,220 addition to that, Dr. Akram shared Ms. Ahlam with 42 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:07,240 her presentation. Ms. Ahlam focused in his 43 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,880 analysis on the words and the words and its 44 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,020 reflects. So Dr. Akram said that he will continue 45 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:17,520 the whole poem in more details next lecture. So I 46 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,980 didn't forget to write my report. Okay, thank you 47 00:03:19,980 --> 00:03:26,720 very much. In fact, last time Ms. Ahlan conducted 48 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:32,580 what is called deconstruction 49 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:36,280 or deconstructive analysis. She used a theory 50 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,280 called the theory of deconstruction. She was 51 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,660 looking about the binaries, like the opposites, 52 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,160 like the mild and the violent. you know, the 53 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,680 strong and the weak, the mighty and the 54 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,700 vulnerable, you know, the sublime and the 55 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:59,980 beautiful. So it was a good insight into the poem. 56 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:04,000 And I think it was appropriate because it was 57 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,610 suitable for, I mean, the philosophy of Blake 58 00:04:07,610 --> 00:04:12,210 himself, because Blake didn't see life in black 59 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:15,790 and white. He saw it like he didn't see them like 60 00:04:15,790 --> 00:04:21,650 contrasting, but he saw them complementary. And in 61 00:04:21,650 --> 00:04:27,050 the marriage between earth and heaven, like he saw 62 00:04:27,050 --> 00:04:29,830 evil and good going side by side. 63 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,740 Today we're going to have another look. And most 64 00:04:35,740 --> 00:04:38,480 of the critics, when they want, because this poem 65 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,720 is symbolic. It is full of rhetorical questions. 66 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:48,880 What immortal hand? What the hand? What the 67 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,080 shoulders? What is the place? So all, you know, 68 00:04:53,260 --> 00:04:57,420 the questions were concentrated on 69 00:04:59,090 --> 00:05:03,330 like the act of making, the act of creating, the 70 00:05:03,330 --> 00:05:08,510 act of forming. And that act involved two things. 71 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:13,410 It involved power, physical power, that involved 72 00:05:13,410 --> 00:05:18,990 also an eye, an artistic skill. So because he was 73 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:24,310 asking about what the art, what the eye. In fact, 74 00:05:24,810 --> 00:05:29,000 the poem became a little bit confusing As I said, 75 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,180 some critics said it was about the Industrial 76 00:05:34,180 --> 00:05:37,480 Revolution. Other critics said it was about the 77 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,760 French Revolution or the American Revolution 78 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,000 because it was the age of revolutions. Other 79 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:52,370 thought that it was a poetic It was a revolution 80 00:05:52,370 --> 00:06:00,070 against the rules and the poetic restrictions of 81 00:06:00,070 --> 00:06:04,550 the Neoclassical. So in both, in all these cases, 82 00:06:04,670 --> 00:06:09,410 we find that it is about revolution. Now I want to 83 00:06:09,410 --> 00:06:12,930 start, because we are supposed to debate, And I 84 00:06:12,930 --> 00:06:15,050 was going to take the side of revolution, so I 85 00:06:15,050 --> 00:06:20,410 prepared some videos to show you how England was 86 00:06:20,410 --> 00:06:24,830 like during the 87 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:30,730 Industrial Revolution. How the life, you know, of 88 00:06:30,730 --> 00:06:36,170 the countryside, how it changed, how everything 89 00:06:36,170 --> 00:06:41,690 was transformed. And how the countryside lost its 90 00:06:41,690 --> 00:06:49,150 purity because of mechanization, how the social 91 00:06:49,150 --> 00:06:56,070 arena was transformed. So it had its dire 92 00:06:56,070 --> 00:07:00,350 consequences. And even the farms were enclosed 93 00:07:00,350 --> 00:07:07,910 because everything was was important in terms of 94 00:07:07,910 --> 00:07:13,350 materialism. So the farms, the landscape lost its 95 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:17,030 vast nature because it was open. Now it is 96 00:07:17,030 --> 00:07:20,510 partitioned because they were interested in 97 00:07:20,510 --> 00:07:25,910 grazing animals and raising profits. So the 98 00:07:25,910 --> 00:07:31,630 countryside lost its beauty. And, you know, 99 00:07:31,790 --> 00:07:35,670 mechanization was there. So let's see some videos 100 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:40,790 and hopefully you see how was England like. 101 00:08:23,980 --> 00:08:41,560 This is how the 102 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:43,200 English countryside transformed. 103 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,080 of animals in a distant realm of church bells bore 104 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,200 the stories of romance here. Yemen was a land of 105 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,260 great social inequality. A handful of aristocrats 106 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:05,620 and rulers possessed by right of birth nearly all 107 00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:08,380 of the incredible wealth it yielded. They built 108 00:09:08,380 --> 00:09:11,520 magnificent palaces for themselves and filled them 109 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,000 with treasure. Down in a group of slower classes, 110 00:09:15,540 --> 00:09:18,700 most of whom owned no land, struggled to survive. 111 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:24,990 These poor people sometimes faced severe 112 00:09:24,990 --> 00:09:29,570 malnutrition and even starvation. They usually 113 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:34,350 died young. With this as a background, let us find 114 00:09:34,350 --> 00:09:37,130 out what great changes were to occur as a result 115 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:38,230 of industrialization. 116 00:09:40,770 --> 00:09:43,770 The first industrial revolution began in England 117 00:09:43,770 --> 00:09:47,690 for several reasons. First, she possessed rich 118 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:51,530 deposits of iron and coal, resources essential to 119 00:09:51,530 --> 00:09:55,390 industrialization. Second, England had many 120 00:09:55,390 --> 00:10:00,010 reliable sources of water power. And third, 121 00:10:00,430 --> 00:10:02,770 numerous colonies around the world supplied her 122 00:10:02,770 --> 00:10:07,330 with abundant raw materials, like this cotton. And 123 00:10:07,330 --> 00:10:08,730 at the same time, it provided 124 00:10:17,020 --> 00:10:22,360 Okay. So as you see, just I want to show you how 125 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,240 England was. As you see, industrial revolution was 126 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,320 indispensable. Industrial revolution was there 127 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,080 because of the labor, was the raw material from 128 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,240 the colonies, mainly America. So they started to 129 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:44,260 industrialize or to invent machines and those 130 00:10:44,260 --> 00:10:47,640 machines, and necessary for industry, changed the 131 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,460 face, the social arena, the political arena, 132 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:57,000 everything. And England became like a plant or a 133 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:02,320 factory producing, working for the world. And with 134 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,860 these emergent values, like the countryside lost 135 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:11,610 its purity, you know, and it was seen like a 136 00:11:11,610 --> 00:11:14,130 monster because, you know, machine replaced man, 137 00:11:14,270 --> 00:11:17,510 children were abused, women were abused, like, 138 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:21,610 because they were working in factories, even like, 139 00:11:21,670 --> 00:11:26,530 you know, slums, dirty slums were created, and a 140 00:11:26,530 --> 00:11:30,870 lot of crimes even happened. So Blake wrote that 141 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:35,150 poem, and some critics thought it was about the 142 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:38,510 Industrial Revolution. Others, as I said, thought 143 00:11:38,510 --> 00:11:42,610 it was about the 144 00:11:42,610 --> 00:11:46,530 creation of poetry. So we are going to have the 145 00:11:46,530 --> 00:11:50,330 poem in front of us and now to debate whether it 146 00:11:50,330 --> 00:11:54,670 is about industrial revolution and whether about 147 00:11:54,670 --> 00:12:00,670 like poetic imagination. So let's see quickly who 148 00:12:00,670 --> 00:12:02,490 wants to be, like Amal, do you want to be on this 149 00:12:02,490 --> 00:12:08,710 side? This is the industrial revolution. Okay, 150 00:12:08,710 --> 00:12:12,530 Hidayat, do you want to be in this side? I can 151 00:12:12,530 --> 00:12:17,910 help both. Yes, I encourage more students. What do 152 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:21,470 you want, which side? The industrial. Okay, the 153 00:12:21,470 --> 00:12:26,130 industrial, you come here. Poetry. Poetry, you 154 00:12:26,130 --> 00:12:29,370 come here. So have some chairs. 155 00:12:46,170 --> 00:12:50,350 Okay, yes. Who will join these people? 156 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:59,210 Yes. Why are you scared? I'm going to help. Both. 157 00:13:00,870 --> 00:13:05,070 Okay. Who wants to come to this side? What is it 158 00:13:05,070 --> 00:13:11,650 about? It is about poetic creation? Okay, what do 159 00:13:11,650 --> 00:13:13,830 you think? Let's start. 160 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:23,280 If you want, like, I'm going to help both of you. 161 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Like here, if you look at the word frame, frame 162 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:33,020 has to do with what? Frame, to shape, to design. 163 00:13:34,420 --> 00:13:40,400 Make has to do with what? Create. Okay. If you 164 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,880 want to look at art, okay, the word art would 165 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,700 support, you know, those who think it is about 166 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:51,590 art. But the word chain and the word horror, the 167 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:56,170 word hammer would support the Industrial 168 00:13:56,170 --> 00:14:00,950 Revolution. So you have a lot of evidence in the 169 00:14:00,950 --> 00:14:06,950 poem to support either side. So let's start by 170 00:14:06,950 --> 00:14:13,980 this group. What do you think? First of all, first 171 00:14:13,980 --> 00:14:16,920 time I read the poem, I thought like it was about 172 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,980 like two contradictory things, like evil and good. 173 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:25,040 And this, like always we have in a human soul. And 174 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,240 so, and like human were so taken by the industrial 175 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,480 revolution. And so there was like the evil part of 176 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,080 them. So he's like, I think he's saying that the 177 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,020 industrial revolution is like, A monster. A 178 00:14:42,020 --> 00:14:44,720 monster that's taking over the human soul. Okay, 179 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:47,520 and I do agree with her because, you know, here 180 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,900 the tiger is presented to us not like an animal, 181 00:14:52,220 --> 00:14:56,180 an ordinary animal, but rather as a monster, you 182 00:14:56,180 --> 00:15:00,340 know, frightening the people. What do you want to 183 00:15:00,340 --> 00:15:07,210 say? No, I didn't think because Because he means 184 00:15:07,210 --> 00:15:13,130 the positive things and sides in what you said. 185 00:15:13,690 --> 00:15:16,750 For example, burning bright. I think it is 186 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:21,250 something attractive. Excellent, yes. And fearful 187 00:15:21,250 --> 00:15:21,790 symmetry. 188 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:24,970 Okay, 189 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:38,170 I do agree with her, like it's very interesting 190 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:41,110 because here In fact, it was yesterday that I 191 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:45,410 realized we have another oxymoron here. Because 192 00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:48,870 burning bright, burning, it is something negative. 193 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:52,530 But bright, bright, it means something positive. 194 00:15:52,930 --> 00:15:55,190 So when we are talking about something bright, 195 00:15:55,370 --> 00:15:58,870 something dissipating the darkness, because if we 196 00:15:58,870 --> 00:16:03,010 have the first of the night, which is darkness and 197 00:16:03,010 --> 00:16:12,580 bright, then it is positive. Symmetry. So poetry 198 00:16:12,580 --> 00:16:17,100 is an act of symmetry, isn't it? This is what you 199 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:21,560 want to say. And poetry, because poetry, you know, 200 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,460 sometimes, look, some revolutions were supported 201 00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:29,100 by poetry. I think, you know, the Egyptian 202 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:30,820 Revolution, if you remember, like they were 203 00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:33,760 sitting in Tahrir Square and they were chanting, 204 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,880 you know, poetic things. And those poetic, you 205 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,260 know, lines gave power to the revolution. So 206 00:16:42,260 --> 00:16:47,360 nobody can ignore the power of poetry in inciting 207 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,500 people. provoking people, giving them this 208 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:56,260 momentum. So it is seen by Blake here, the poetry, 209 00:16:56,420 --> 00:17:00,060 the power of poetry is like the power of this 210 00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:02,080 light, which is burning in the forest of the 211 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,560 night. So here, if you want, and this is, I think 212 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,420 she's talking about the darkness. Darkness is 213 00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:11,880 associated with political injustice, with 214 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,690 political despotism. And poetry, you know, 215 00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:22,210 imagination, the poetic revolution, or the power 216 00:17:22,210 --> 00:17:27,230 of poetry can be a protest against this. Can it 217 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:30,650 change? Because poetry has this power to change. 218 00:17:31,490 --> 00:17:37,330 Okay? I want to say about Marilyn Monroe.like the 219 00:17:37,330 --> 00:17:41,070 idea of fuel like burning fuel to get energy and 220 00:17:41,070 --> 00:17:44,410 to machines and so they design new things like the 221 00:17:44,410 --> 00:17:48,960 cement fearful symmetry, like design something 222 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,880 beautiful. And like the, of night, like they 223 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,760 working unstoppable. Like they always work, work. 224 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,860 So it's like the idea of industrial revolution. 225 00:17:57,980 --> 00:18:00,100 Yeah, she began by saying that the tiger stands 226 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:02,800 for evil, the making of evil. So we can say that 227 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,980 the tiger could stand for the machines as being 228 00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:09,920 the evil thing. And the burning is the burning of 229 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,120 the machines and stuff like that. So, but why are 230 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:15,380 the machines like evil? Like the question is why? 231 00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:19,450 Ah, they replaced people. Okay. Do you have any 232 00:18:19,450 --> 00:18:21,970 evidence like in the poem which shows that the 233 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:26,210 poet was complaining that this is evil? Evil 234 00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:28,730 creature? This is evil creature? 235 00:18:31,730 --> 00:18:34,510 Okay. Do you have any evidence like this? Of 236 00:18:34,510 --> 00:18:39,990 course, the words like fearful and who used to be 237 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:41,390 night? Night? 238 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,080 So they think, you know, light is good, it's a 239 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,500 place for romanticism. It's like the word 240 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:52,340 immortal, supernatural power, it's something that 241 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:55,260 makes you fear or scared. 242 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,060 Yes, go ahead. No, I think the tiger here, okay it 243 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:13,120 is fearful because it is when anything new appear 244 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:16,140 for people, they will be scared and fear and avoid 245 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:21,060 it. But when they come close to it and analyze it 246 00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:24,960 and deal with it, they will be familiar and love 247 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:30,160 it. Like there, his poet and his style of writing 248 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,680 is new, So, like, people is dependent and familiar 249 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,120 with other parts of style of writing, but when 250 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,140 they become close and know what is this writing 251 00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:46,160 about, they will love it and will be... So, they 252 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,820 can change their mind? Yes, yes. And you think 253 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:52,480 this is like, you know, similar to this symmetry 254 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,910 and like, you know? Yes. And he also... It's kind 255 00:19:56,910 --> 00:20:02,390 of a tiger, his shoulder, his eyes. I think it's a 256 00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:08,130 responsible thing or something you know. So with 257 00:20:08,130 --> 00:20:11,190 the creation, you mean? Yes. Yes? What do you want 258 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:16,410 to say? This poem, I think, is about two themes, 259 00:20:16,550 --> 00:20:20,770 nature and the industrial revolution. Nature is... 260 00:20:20,770 --> 00:20:23,130 So you are betraying, like, you're helping them, 261 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:25,230 you know? No, I'm not helping them, but it is 262 00:20:25,230 --> 00:20:27,950 obvious. I mean, it is used... You can come here. 263 00:20:29,070 --> 00:20:33,170 Okay, who can replace her? No, I'm an objective. 264 00:20:33,550 --> 00:20:39,250 Okay. Okay. Now it is it is logical that William 265 00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:43,130 Blake was born in the first on the beginning in 266 00:20:43,130 --> 00:20:46,110 the beginnings of the industrial revolution. So it 267 00:20:46,110 --> 00:20:48,970 was the theme of their lives. I mean, ordinary 268 00:20:48,970 --> 00:20:51,330 people in their daily speeches, they were talking 269 00:20:51,330 --> 00:20:54,490 about this revolution. So it was he was motivated 270 00:20:54,490 --> 00:20:59,890 by this theme, but As a romantic poet, he chose a 271 00:20:59,890 --> 00:21:02,470 figure of nature, the tiger. The tiger is a very 272 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:07,310 beautiful animal. He tried to explain to clear the 273 00:21:07,310 --> 00:21:12,230 idea about him and taking it as a symbol of this 274 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:18,070 industrial revolution. Blake wasn't trying to 275 00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:23,730 express something instantly about this industry, 276 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:31,710 but he was I guess dealing with this tiger issue, 277 00:21:32,430 --> 00:21:38,970 but being affected by this revolution. You cannot 278 00:21:38,970 --> 00:21:42,950 make up your mind. I think if you look at the 279 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:46,740 poet, or if you look at all the questions, They 280 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:51,480 were about the process of creation. He asked about 281 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,280 the hand, the shoulder, so it was about the 282 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,120 creation. Now the question is, does the creation 283 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:01,460 of poetry require this effort? 284 00:22:06,910 --> 00:22:08,190 It's spontaneous. 285 00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:14,050 And the assumption is like poetry, you know, just 286 00:22:14,050 --> 00:22:17,490 like poets write poetry without feeling the pain 287 00:22:17,490 --> 00:22:21,750 and the experience. What do you want to say? Okay. 288 00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:25,230 I mean, why would you say effort? Yeah, but like- 289 00:22:25,230 --> 00:22:27,570 Why would you say effort? Because, you know, they 290 00:22:27,570 --> 00:22:31,450 need to- I don't see effort being blamed here, 291 00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:35,410 because he's being, he has been spontaneous, he 292 00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:38,330 has been just himself, he's a real poet. But like, 293 00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:43,570 I think, you know, we are not honest to our, you 294 00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:48,070 know, honest to words worth definition of poetry, 295 00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:51,760 when he said poetry is a spontaneous overflow, of 296 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,700 powerful feelings recollected in tranquility. And 297 00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:59,560 here, when you say recollected in tranquility, it 298 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,980 means like the writing of poetry needs hard work. 299 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720 It's not easy. You keep changing. It is 300 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,300 spontaneous. But what is spontaneous? It is not 301 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:13,080 the act of writing poetry. It is not the act of 302 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,380 saying poetry. It is the feeling which is 303 00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:21,180 spontaneous. So I think, you know, poetry involves 304 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:25,960 craftsmanship. And sometimes poets suffer, fret, 305 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,440 in order to, you know, produce this poem. It is 306 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,720 not easy. Anyone can express his emotion, but not 307 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040 in a poetic way. Yeah, not in a poetic way, 308 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,540 because, you know, if you want to be a poet, you 309 00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:46,290 need like to fret more and more. Okay, yes. It 310 00:23:46,290 --> 00:23:49,470 seems like the students are unprepared today, you 311 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:53,310 know. It is because you are having exam. But let 312 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:58,690 me, when he complains, like, what red hand, what 313 00:23:58,690 --> 00:24:03,890 red feet? Like, when their heart began here. 314 00:24:07,610 --> 00:24:09,050 Like, when he said, 315 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,640 When the stars know what shoulder, yes. And when 316 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,260 their heart began to beat, what red hand, what red 317 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:22,840 feet? Do you think, you know here, this 318 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,900 questioning involves any fascination? Like fearful 319 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:31,760 symmetry? Like burning bright? What red hand, what 320 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,060 red feet? I think here, he's complaining. What 321 00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:40,120 dread hand, dread hand, or dread feet? This is 322 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,900 very frightening. This is very scary. Isn't it? 323 00:24:44,020 --> 00:24:48,000 Yeah, but no, I think, you know, questioning here, 324 00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:51,420 what dread hand, what dread feet? Like he's, you 325 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:57,780 know, I mean, the tiger is seen as a monster here. 326 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,510 It is like a mythological creature. You see? It is 327 00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:07,270 not like any animal. Wadded hand, wadded feet. So 328 00:25:07,270 --> 00:25:10,230 I think, you know, this shows a complaint that it 329 00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:13,710 was about industrial revolution. And look here, 330 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:17,910 the hole, the hammer, the furnace. It is like a 331 00:25:17,910 --> 00:25:23,580 goldsmith. I'm sorry, I'm not helping you. No, I 332 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:28,280 want to say that yes, it is about industrial 333 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,180 revolution. It's the time of industrial 334 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:34,520 revolution, but because he wants to make a poetic 335 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,740 revolution, he cannot say it is directly. So he 336 00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:41,980 wants to use this means in a very symbolic way. 337 00:25:42,150 --> 00:25:45,630 Even if he speaks about the industrial revolution, 338 00:25:45,950 --> 00:25:54,970 he wants to convey something other. So I think you 339 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:57,410 know what you might think also because this is an 340 00:25:57,410 --> 00:26:00,290 open debate in fact. I'm not going to close it 341 00:26:00,290 --> 00:26:03,070 today. It's an open debate. I want you to think 342 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:06,410 further about this. Is it about poetic 343 00:26:06,410 --> 00:26:09,790 imagination? Or is it about industrial revolution? 344 00:26:10,130 --> 00:26:13,830 And this is what I want you to research. So I want 345 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:18,770 to close this debate. It is part of an assignment 346 00:26:18,770 --> 00:26:20,950 I'm giving you, and we'll talk about this 347 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:25,330 assignment later. It might be a supplement to your 348 00:26:25,330 --> 00:26:28,850 midterm exam, which I'm going to give you in a 349 00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:33,080 minute. So I would like to thank both teams for 350 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,320 sharing with me and we'll see next time we're 351 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,860 going like to continue. Thank you very much.