art_phone.txt

0.998791094512	4.79975801285	O1	So what do you consider as an art?
6.97963598899	14.7280154542	O2	Well, as a photographer and musician, I, consider this as a form of art.
15.1255924918	21.3294684074	O2	But I also um, appreciates appreciate still arts
21.3294684074	28.5345583799	O2	Like you know, paintings, crafts, cultures a lot of things what about you?
29.0385449862	37.1280092725	O1	Well, anything that is done with the purpose of expressing emotion
37.1571002753	42.5410961542	O1	Or with the purpose of relating something to the one looking at it.
42.5410961542	45.9716298073	O1	It's, uh considered an art for me.
45.9813268082	52.6787880037	O1	For example I think of that music and dancing are forms of art.
52.6884850046	58.4489741303	O1	Because they would convey the emotion to the listener or to the watcher.
58.4733452959	59.8309254244	O1	What about you?
59.9682419872	63.368728022	O2	Yeah, that is very, that is really true like art.
64.551762134	67.9842430174	O2	It's always a form of self-expression.
68.8560848703	76.6046193918	O1	Yeah um, there's an issue though about art that it tends to get um
76.9699441395	83.7132150872	O1	I don't know, people tend to think that, art is really expensive.
84.1980651331	91.8664456286	O1	Like um, I don't know what they are looking at those or they aim at focus on looking at the paintings.
91.8858396304	97.5260651331	O1	I guess where you s-should spend tons of money if you want one.
97.5260651331	103.839288462	O1	But um, what can you say about that those art really have to be expensive?
104.120501489	110.119773467	O2	I totally disagree with that, like well, we have this great artist
110.283150984	113.826663919	O2	Those you call who make expensive paintings like
114.515150984	120.876859318	O2	They're s- they, they are people, who we look up to like
122.000151982	124.578428114	O2	Our history books knows about them.
124.96630815	132.616246108	O2	But that doesn't mean any that that doesn't mean that, art should be only made
132.616246108	138.969450893	O2	By this kind of people that it has to be expensive and it has to meet a certain price like.
138.969450893	141.413570856	O2	Like artists everywhere.
142.916605998	147.257701122	O2	Art should never have a price on it if it really is an art.
148.170908997	154.830796246	O1	Yeah I agree, I mean like, you could consider a child's drawing as an art.
154.830796246	160.793698031	O1	Because, that in, within that drawing is the child's imagination
160.793698031	165.665705243	O1	You can see how the child receives the world through the drawing.
165.665705243	173.100138508	O1	And I mean, you don't have to pay for it in order to be able to look at it right?
173.256241987	175.061573947	O2	I totally agree with you.
175.46205483	179.717091003	O2	So you talked about a child drawing,
180.599518086	182.632726992	O2	Are you into sketching?
182.690908997	186.735034112	O2	Or like painting what kind of art do you actually do?
187.438544986	194.191037203	O1	Well I um recently got into drawings sketching painting.
194.229825206	202.21989137	O1	I usually like water, using water color because I think that at this point in time
202.316861379	209.414546017	O1	Um, It would be easier for me to adapt to it from shifting from being eh
209.753941049	215.053830358	O1	Or shifting rather from drawing to water color is easier rather than
215.065857169	220.435665867	O1	shifting from drawing to an oil base um, painting I guess.
220.544968979	221.514793111	O1	How about you?
221.514793111	223.880861335	O1	What kind of art do you do?
224.424586932	229.098541374	O2	Well, as I've mentioned I do photography and music
229.142314332	234.844616301	O2	So when you mentioned about oils and sketching
234.854313302	238.045102336	O2	I have this like question mark face.
238.054799337	245.739407395	O2	Because I don't really know what you're talking about but, you seem to be very passionate about it and that's admirable..
246.191271978	252.005097184	O1	Yeah, it's something that I find that I could do to express myself.
252.441462226	259.484120994	O1	If something upsets me, or if something um, or if a thought or an
260.327760073	266.997825206	O1	Event comes to mind, I feel that I could um, I don't need to tell other people
267.048	270.006061012	O1	Especially if it is um, upsetting.
270.345456044	276.324600847	O1	That, I don't need to tell other people about it but I can, show the story through my art.
276.324600847	281.265701122	O1	And I think um, but you do love dancing don't you?
282.252114812	289.611870764	O2	I, actually doesn't like dancing, but I enjoy
289.611870764	294.865698031	O2	I enjoy watching people who dances, gracefully.
294.982062042	301.671516026	O1	Yeah I think um oh I thought you enjoy dancing because of for me
302.330912088	309.30158425	O1	Like it's something that, I don't know, people, have this um
310.220852106	317.958325665	O1	I don't know with disposition to think that, for something to come, be considered as an art, for dancing to be considered as an art
317.987416668	323.396861379	O1	For music to be considered as an art, you have to be very good at it.
323.455043384	330.508618362	O1	But I don't, I don't particularly agree to that, because if I see someone dancing,
330.877574977	337.568237866	O1	As long as they're enjoying themselves, they, even if they are not particularly good at it
337.568237866	340.533572916	O1	I would think that, it is an art.
341.270544986	348.115894461	O2	Yeah, like we know how to appreciate like what other people consider good art.
348.115894461	352.097943109	O2	But what is really a good art like?
352.272489126	354.859635989	O2	How can you say it's really good?
357.50133299	365.490190248	O1	I think um, anything is good, if it can be or anything can be considered as a good art
365.490190248	370.597091003	O1	If um, someone is able to appreciate it.
371.09163805	373.4	O1	Now um, talking about.
373.972123054	378.567758013	O1	Like you mentioned photography right, and um
380.02230815	387.766317423	O1	I don't know what will you say to people who think that, photography is you know should not be considered
387.766317423	392.433949291	O1	As an art because it's simply pointing and clicking a camera.
393.474645779	396.189806036	O2	Well, it is considered an art
396.19322436	402.288743476	O2	Because you are showing, the art that was made by nature
402.431518086	409.35686653	O2	So it's not just making it, it's showing and appreciating the art.
409.434442538	411.232485005	O2	That is already made..
412.56097413	420.548141599	O1	I agree and I think that um, in photography, you have well, there're certain angles right?
420.548141599	424.793455014	O1	There are certain compositions that you have to put in a photo.
425.191032051	431.122435326	O1	It's not you know, people have this idea that, photography is just pointing and clicking a camera.
431.141829328	437.095273008	O1	When actually, it it has to be like, having a different perspective.
437.812851076	443.929453983	O1	Being able to capture that perspective and bring it out for other people to see.
444.104	447.091152015	O2	And being creative in how you capture it.
447.46933505	454.760003091	O2	Like it can, it can only be a playing side, but if you do the right job,
454.760003091	461.39128022	O2	Do the right work, you can show it in a different, different way.
462.727519117	464.299379578	O1	Yeah, I totally agree.
464.454531593	472.360480883	O2	Now um speaking of art, would you, like, I don't know because you have a family right
472.360480883	475.205814904	O2	Uh you have a daughter and, would you
476.262788004	480.223500571	O2	Be opposed to her going to art school
480.223500571	485.029234619	O2	Instead of going to like other professions
485.979148924	492.645091003	O1	Wwll for me, anything that she is passionate about like she can always find.
494.744970009	502.653817994	O1	Art, in any, in anything that she wants to do, like if she wants to be a doctor someday,
503.507154075	510.470552198	O1	She can be an artistic doctor like how does sh- how will, she present her profession.
510.519037203	516.424248169	O1	In creative and in in a crea- in a creative way, like.
517.423514995	525.409938988	O2	Yeah I I get what uh you're trying to say, um, there is art in everything so you wouldn't be opposed.
525.409938988	528.635879006	O2	To your daughter going to an art school right?
529.490904876	537.480971039	O1	Of course, of course not, like I would enjoy it if she tells me that she wanna attend an art school someday.
538.053094094	542.263758013	O1	Like people say the artistic people are born.
542.641941049	547.954431205	O1	But I think, you can also create an artistic person.
548.264735234	551.901576007	O1	Like she does maybe, she doesn't even know she likes art.
552.085819025	556.628128206	O1	But probably attending an art class will do.
557.52025229	561.639273008	O1	Bring out the artist in him or create an artist in him.
562.415033082	569.523881067	O2	Yeah, I get what you're trying to say um, but there's this thing though about you know
569.523881067	574.431028961	O2	Speaking of art school and art students there's this stereotype, I guess.
574.731635989	582.704255381	O2	Where uh an arts student is usually perceived as someone messy and someone I don't know
583.314908997	588.082672161	O2	Who smokes weed and does not have a direction in life.
588.102066163	595.945447802	O2	Which is actually a wrong impression, I've heard about that, that in circulating impression that artists
595.945447802	602.850663919	O2	Doesn't care how they look, which's doesn't apply to all artists.
603.544477793	610.187394002	O2	Yeah I guess, because I don't, I have eh, read of artists who are
610.48800103	617.158547047	O2	Um, very neat and very, um, systematic in their way of doing things.
617.168244048	625.155411517	O2	Um, aside from that, I have also read of an article about an autistic child
625.82450458	627.28000103	O2	Who is um,
627.832730083	633.639751831	O2	Who also has a savant syndrome so he's good at doing art and I think um,
634.211874885	640.020849016	O2	People were bashing him because they say that his art is just.
640.922670101	645.477580128	O2	Um like a product of his, Savant Syndrome
645.874423993	647.455510874	O2	What can you say about that?
648.667635989	651.416	O1	Honestly, I don't know what to say about that.
652.410420902	660.402915179	O1	But this child doing some paintings showing his imaginations is an art.
660.419147894	665.720246108	O1	Because I choose the things that you imagine.
666.998302999	674.75564114	O1	As we were talking about it's a for some some  self, self-expression and if that child will have a certain kind of disorder
675.113697001	678.895997939	O1	Does that, would  it is with, express himself?
679.390544986	683.519520147	O2	Yeah, I agree, I agree I think eh that,
683.922423993	690.987167469	O2	Some people just, I don't know, tend to bring other people down at things that they are not good at.
690.987167469	698.690678343	O2	So when they see someone who is good at painting, who is good at drawing, who is good at creating music
698.690678343	706.727271978	O2	Dancing I think that um, the first things that they will see is the negatives.
707.532123054	713.775520147	O2	They tend to bring those people down because um uh insecurities I guess
713.80461115	720.337704213	O2	So um, in the art world, we have what we call  art critics.
720.780604968	728.369462226	O2	Do you like tend to agree with what they say or the impressions
728.369462226	734.110552198	O2	Of a certain art or do you prefer to have your own opinion about the art?
734.291633928	738.36364114	O1	For me, anyone can be an art critic.
738.873211996	742.17066804	O1	Like we are all entitled to our own opinions.
742.69430609	747.776	O1	However,this I believe this art critics you're talking about are actually artists.
747.977689789	752.273936928	O1	Who put a certain label on these arts.
752.915628777	758.799761104	O2	Well I don't know if I would agree with the one.
759.683144803	761.406049679	O2	They're trying to say but
762.782400591	765.022407803	O2	I I just do respect their opinion.
765.992731113	770.928970009	O1	Now I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion when it comes to art.
770.928970009	778.248248169	O1	Because as we have said you can't really put a certain art in a certain box right
778.379635989	782.810432235	O2	You cannot put a certain label on things I guess.
784.067889271	787.772143621	O2	So now a little a little bit off topic.
789.001449862	794.471514995	O2	Do you think that it's proper to call nude paintings art?
795.623510874	800.022788004	O1	Well, yeah, at a, cert, at a certain point.
800.226425023	807.528742446	O1	Because um, people actually think of that it's I don't know.
808.449700092	814.992485005	O1	Offending to some, but I think that the art that is being displayed there is.
815.613093063	821.512956616	O1	You know how they made it, how they created that painting every stroke
821.522653616	829.386188187	O1	Every I don't know every composition of a nude, painting is art in itself.
830.323635989	838.194439447	O2	Well, they always said that the body, is an art like we have certain measurements
838.194439447	845.672249199	O2	We have certain curves, and the I guess,  showing that in a form of art
845.672249199	849.626420902	O2	Like painting is pretty impressive.
850.285816964	857.791766255	O1	Um, I agree I actually art is, especially nude art is about how is the person
857.966312272	862.981822116	O1	Perceives it, it's kind of subjective. because um,
863.446544986	868.106907967	O1	A person can see the art as just that, a nude picture.
868.106907967	875.846061012	O1	But someone could also see that and um, interpret the way that the body is position.
876.437578068	879.552	O2	That is true so since we're talking about our bodies.
880.92897413	885.777950321	O2	Do you consider tattoos, as a form of art?
885.883150984	893.853352565	O1	Yeah, of course I guess um, it's a form of self-expression on the part of the one.
893.853352565	899.257460165	O1	Having the tattoo and the tattoo artist, themselves.
900.285817994	908.280730083	O2	I agree that like they always tell me that don't get tattoos those are just markings.
909.236362981	911.170178915	O2	It's just form of self-expression.
911.528967949	916.304	O2	It's well we keep telling about this but it is actually an art.
917.897211996	925.384981342	O2	It shows it shows culture it shows emotion
925.956113782	932.712243017	O2	It shows well, to put it short, is a form of self-express, self-expression.
933.003153045	936.939397093	O1	Yeah, I get what you are trying to say, I guess um,
937.895029991	945.505197572	O1	Tattoos have a bad rep because it started out in prison or it was popularised in prison.
945.522839522	953.449940018	O1	I'm not sure I don't quote me on that, but I think that you know, people I have met a lot, of people who have
953.449940018	961.223040294	O1	Tattoos and when I ask them about the tattoos it's actually, there's a story behind it and then
961.251482879	964.412705178	O1	You can see it in their skin like
964.500626604	970.733092033	O1	They point at a certain object, and they say that this represents my mum, or this represents
970.762183036	977.97841575	O1	The an event that I went through and it's like it's a form of getting to know them.
977.97841575	985.125105427	O1	Actually, I think that um, specially those professionals, who have tattoos
985.280728022	989.186672161	O1	Like doctors, nurses um pilots engineers.
989.415029991	991.494300939	O1	People would tend to avoid them.
991.950059982	993.768725961	O1	Because of their tattoos.
994.020847985	1002.00970009	O1	But I think if people would just take their time to, ask them about why they have those tattoos
1002.0678821	1006.72654499	O1	I think it would be a good story of a conversation conversation really.
1008.08412511	1011.02400618	O2	I agree with you I'm just like
1012.0414581	1018.07757601	O2	Paintings, drawings, sketches, it's just  that you made your skins as your canvas
1018.80485108	1023.68655014	O1	But, speaking of skin as a canvas, I guess you know.
1024.044606	1031.7461851	O1	Tattoo artists have it tough because people have this notion that um,
1032.05696975	1039.97335463	O1	They would just be drawing that certain image on the skin like why should they gay get paid
1039.97866083	1041.96823581	O1	For it and um.
1043.0155119	1049.21963496	O1	What can you say about the notion that tattoo artists shouldn't have to get paid that high?
1050.62011584	1057.98546635	O2	Well I have you seen a tattoo artist making a tattoo or performing it
1058.40217994	1060.69599897	O2	It's very captivating.
1060.90933299	1064.75951809	O2	Like how can they put a certain image under your skin?
1066.35393899	1067.2259359	O2	They've earned it
1068.20459982	1074.71540018	O1	Yeah, it's not, it's not easy you know having a living person as a canvas
1074.87587386	1079.66666804	O1	Like um especially those who have low tolerance.
1079.69575904	1084.46351706	O1	For pain, and then they would be moving a lot during the process
1084.47321406	1092.28235846	O1	And it takes a good, a certain level of skill to be able to put on a perfect image on someone
1092.28235846	1093.28114955	O1	Who's moving.
1094.3221851	1096.136	O2	I totally agree with that.
1097.26085211	1102.80485623	O1	So would you would you consider um, getting a tattoo?
1103.22836298	1109.03175801	O2	I actually, I'm planning on travelling and getting a tattoo from that place.
1110.54449016	1111.85042399	O1	Well, that's a good idea.
1112.06375801	1114.32363496	O1	It will serve us in memory of that place.
1114.65575724	1116.50788442	O2	Exactly what I'm thinking about
1116.65091518	1122.69430712	O2	Well, speaking of travelling would you also consider going to visit art museum
1123.02400515	1124.046303	O1	When you travel
1125.0838821	1131.85308276	O2	Of course, like I wanna go somewhere, I wanna go to Spain, and then visit these
1132.66737198	1134.73283318	O1	Churches these
1137.854788	1142.00315201	O2	Buildings this cult, those cultural paintings.
1142.34254705	1146.41697722	O2	Because I feel like, there is a lot to see in there.
1147.47200309	1154.2996432	O1	Yeah well architecture in itself, is a form of foil, it's an expression of
1154.59055323	1162.12945913	O1	You know that era right because um, usually you can see the the way the people live
1162.15855014	1165.10691415	O1	During that era through architecture.
1165.41284799	1170.81333402	O2	Exactly and I mentioned about Spain, like I really wanna see Sagrada Familia.
1171.40654087	1175.46763702	O2	Like I'm it's so, pretty.
1176.18521509	1179.62206101	O2	From pictures of course, I haven't been there yet.
1179.98085005	1182.38618201	O2	It's so delicately done.
1182.69648603	1186.92484902	O2	Like there's a lot of scene in there, there's a lot of effort.
1187.52606307	1190.2004881	O2	And it's just so, captivating
1190.96096692	1196.84315201	O1	Yeah um, from pictures it looks magnificent and you have to.
1197.00800103	1203.31321715	O1	Like I don't know I want to go there too to really appreciate the beauty of it.